@@IvysAddiction They aren't. If you sort by new you see PLENTY of people talking about it and their comments aren't being deleted. Lovejoy is a popular band and countless people do not give a fuck about the shelby stuff, they just listen to the music.
@@SoilKilonova that's not how that works, obviously the bot needs it's time to delete the comments, it isn't instant, also clearly a thing they started doing now because every single other thing they have posted has been bombarded by Shelby comments and biting stuff, because there is no way they think they can just come back from all of that so easily
@@Charmingdragons yeah no surprise he’s been dealing with constant harassment because of shelby, i’m sure it’s been horrible for his mental health, and we already know he was recovering from alcoholism when she decided to start that whole smear campaign the internet is still eating up
he looks ill, and people hate on him still. Shelby has accused her exes in the past of "abuse". I know this might not change anyones opinion on this situation but, Wilbur only admitted to being slobbish and selfish. He did not admit to the consensual biting. When they were dating, Shelby posted a lot of pictures with him and her. She wore very revealing clothes and there was no bruises. Even if she covered them with makeup, Shelby's cousin actually said that Shelby abused Wilbur. She said detail by detail. Also, if you look in those photos, Wilbur looked miserable and he had lots of bruises. Wilbur just doesn't really try to manage the situation. I don't really know why. Some people believe he has autism, but i dont think so. Shubble only takes advantage of this situation to get more followers.
@@qudsiyxh.x I’m not gonna agree or disagree with you. but could I ask, where can I find the claims of “Shelby’s cousin’” ? I haven’t seen any proof of those tweets/video/wtv form it is in. Not saying youre a liar, but could you link me the sources?
@@chaotically-moon also this was copy and pasted from another comment, copy and paste to spread the info ( the experiences in this comment are not mine ) #WilburSupporSquad (DON'T JUST HATE, ACTUALLY READ BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF ALL OF THE HATE THAT ARE ALWAYS IN THE COMMENTS) Edit: It has been pointed out to me by multiple people that not only has that woman (I refuse to say her name) has never been see with bruises, Wilbur on the other wise has many times and while she instantly went back to normal after this which an actual victim of abuse would struggle to do, Wilbur on the other hand has obviously been struggling mentally, emotionally and physically. Even more reason for me to support Wilbur. Edit 2: Honestly the more I find out about this situation the more I support Wilbur and wonder why any sane person supports this bitch. Really the fact that she and her supporters have also bullied people to suicide (with confirmed deaths) and then said the deaths were fake while whining that Wilburs supports who are doing nothing but trying to show him love and support are "attacting" her while not providing evidence, which at this point is not suprising. All of you seem to think you know everything and quiet frankly I am very disappointed and disgusted in you all who instantly believe what you are told at face value. Firstly I want to make it clear, I approve of everyone saying always support the Victim, HOWEVER you should always make sure that you know who the victim actually is. Now before anyone thinks I do not know what I am talking about I am a victim of several forms of abuse (and experience that for over 15 years) and I have also been in Wilbur's shoes in which I have lost those I thought loved and trusted me due to false allegations. Those same people who said they would forever love and support me, did not listen to my side of the story and turned their backs on me without any evidence or proof I did anything wrong every being presented. The fact the accuser (I refuse to even type her name) in this situation has already falsely accused 2 separate past partners of the same thing she is accusing Wilbur of is sus enough, but add to that the contradicting statements she has made (aka the biting thing among others) along with liking the death threat posts made against Wilbur (Amongst other things) just confirms to me that he is being set up. And to all of you who keep mentioning the biting thing, she had come out later saying that was not the problem, that it was just "weird" and that him hurting her is the problem. AKA, Contradicting herself and providing no evidence he caused hurt physical or even emotional pain. And also to those who say he admitted it. no he did not. his statement is vague and some parts can be interpreted differently however he did admit to having struggled mentally during the last few months of their relationship causing him to be a bad boyfriend and causing possible pain and hardship to his partner, in which he apologised for and is getting help for and as someone who also has had mental struggles in my life I can relate. He also said in a recent video he did not abuse her and he does not wish to talk about that right now which with how he is possibly (and most likely) still struggling due to all of you hating him, the abandonment of those he loved and the loss of his streaming career, I fully understand he why he wishes to focus on the only happiness he has right now and that is his band and performing. I want to add that I have a similar personality and quirks of Wilbur and see myself in him and disgusted people are analysing every thing he has said and done, twisting it and taking it out of context and using it as "proof" I truly believe Wilbur is innocent as I have been in the exact situation as he is (Just not a server obviously) and have seen a my fathers family friend (male) be accused of sexual assault which was proven false after a confession from the accuser that they lied, just because they had a bad break up and an acquaintance of my father (male) be accused of sexual assault as well which again was proven false, just because he rejected her advances and both men in this situation were just like Wilbur, instantly hated despite no evidence/proof and no one tried to listen to their side. I am glad that lovejoy has stayed true and believing of him throughout this and due to Wilbur's current state from his recent video I have seen he is not looking well and to be honest due to the slander, harassment, losing his twitch career, losing his friends and those his considered family (Philza and Tommy) and so on, I am not surprised he not in the best mental, emotional or physical state and that any evidence he has that he is innocent (as he states he does have) I am not surprised he has not show as every hater will instantly claim it is fake (can you tell I have experience with this?). If I am being honest I was worried he my even follow the advice of those telling him to kill him-self as I have also been there and nearly done so my-self. Life is too short and the world and it's people are cruel, I have learnt this the hard way, and now so is Wilbur. Remember everyone, Men can be victims, Women can lie, NEVER EVER take anything at face value. Get hard evidence and proof before you hate on someone and ruin a possible innocent life. Innocent until proven guilty and the fact that their is more and more evidence that the accuser in this situation is lying (if you all would do you god damn research!), I think people should LEAVE WILBUR ALONE! If you wish to hate on this comment then go right ahead, I will never be returning to this comment so I do not care, I will also be pasting this as a reply to all of you haters on your own comments just to try and spread some awareness and hopefully some of you can open your minds and maybe not judge and hate someone accused in the future before you get all the facts. Ya'll can hate on me but you leave my Boy alone
What he did was wrong but this man lost his life work, a dear friend, his reputation and the people that looked up to him now hate him, the torment he probably is going thru I wouldn't wish it to my worst enemy
hey so maybe we dont make fun of addictions !! because it seems shelby has an addiction of lying about exes !! shes done if 1(maybe 2) times before wilbur?
@@cactusfox3608 He did bad stuff but bro…He’s mental, he should be getting help and as you see he probably has developed an eating disorder from it. Let him be…
Yeah… I couldn’t understand half the words in the last verse before (the lyrics of which, for some reason, aren’t written in the description) but it makes me want to cry just a bit every time
@@BigLichen it ur opinion but its still HIS song, for example i couldn't listen to someones voice every day that was my idol and turned out to be a dog
Not much clearly. But if you ever upload any video to RUclips then you’ll notice there’s comment moderation tools (which are AI) automatically set by RUclips to censor certain words and phrases. You can turn them off but it’s probably too much effort for them without the trouble of spam and phishing bots. RUclips forces the censor and the anti-bot features into one thing so i dont think they had a choice
Just because he's a bad person doesn't mean he deserves death threats and doxxing. When they canceled Coachella for his health alot of people probably thought the worse. And idk if the shubble fans pushing his fans to commit is real or not. I miss old mcyt, stampy, popularmmos, sky(before) etc.
@@theamazingpoof2205yea. wilbur shouldn't be forgiven since hes response was kinda ass but i agree he doesn't deserve the doxxing and death threats. i wish things were different i really liked wilbur content tbh i don't support wilbur btw.
@@Wart1mes I dont get why people think he shouldnt be forgiven or that his respose was bad. First off, everybody desrves a second chance, no matter what, and people who dont agree are being immature imo. Shubble has made false allegations before, and she has not even mentioned having evifdence of this, and its just all around really stupid and petty of her to tell the famously agressive internet community instead of dealing with it privately like an adult. I persolnally think Shubble's side is untrustworthy, so I stll support Wilbur. Even if he did do something, it clearly wasnt intentional, and he has apologised for what he did do and he is seeking therapy. Remember, Innocent until proven guilty, the burden of proof is on the accuser, and everone deserves a second chance.
@@shinotsuki883they are right though the comments are still at it with each other even tho Shelby moved on, she got what she wanted to spread awareness and Wilbur moved on still making music at this point the comments are at it just for fun
Imagine losing a dear friend and then lose your life work, reputation and been hated by the people that once look up on you. It is a miracle that he is still able to sing
I spent 60 hours on my contribution to this video (the animation 2:00 - 3:00) and I was cracking myself up the whole time while making it 😁 hope you enjoyed the video, talented people on the team ❤
90% of my playlist has people who did questionable things, so if I couldn't then I guess I wouldn't have many songs left. Imo, what Wilbur did wasn't even that bad. Sure, it's abuse but its not like Shelby was fearing for her life or anything. Take Ozzy Osbourne (was also part of metal band Black Sabbath) as an example. He tried to kill his wife by strangulation while high, bit animals heads off, and apparently didn't have the best personality in the 70s/80s...
I have the same dilemma right now. Have not listened to the song because I kind of feel sick at the thought of listening to it. I feel a big sense of betrayal. I really loved Lovejoy. It was my favorite band and second favorite overal to listen to. I don't want to give money to an abuser. I don't want to contribute. I don't want to engage and I don't want to make things worse. I'm not interested in crusifying Wilbur. The internet has done enough. But I don't want to welcome him or the people who he associates with back into my arms like nothing happened either. To the person who made the comment above me: Just because someone (another artist) did something worse does *not* mean the things Will did aren't "that" bad. That's a terrible argument. Like saying stealing a purse isn't bad because someone stole a suitcase. Bad things are bad no matter the intensity or how many people do it. Making comparisons like that normalizes violence. If you don't care about giving your money to terrible people you can do that if you so desire. A lot of people do care about the things they influence with their money and attention. That's why I think I'll let this go for now. No more engaging. No watching, no ads. I don't want anything to do with it anymore. I don't think I could ever again enjoy their music in the same way I did again. All thanks to you Will, thank you for fkng it all up! 👍 (That's my goodbye forever)
@@Xeyal1001people can change, im sure everything hit will like a truck (at least I hope) understand people do shit but it’s what u do to become better that counts. As long as he’s genuinely trying and it seems so
@@Xeyal1001even just leaving this comment is supporting him bro. at most your perceived idea of moral purity by not supporting a band you like because some guy and his gf had horrible communication skills years ago is virtue signaling. you’re not making any difference either way. either enjoy it or don’t, you have 0 impact on their success and you’re only depriving yourself
@@karladt9377 saying abuse isnt that bad because it wasnt life threatening is CRAZZYYY.. he LITERALLY physically abused her, human bites are dangerous can EASILY become extremely infected. you cant just compare what he did to a more extreme case to excuse what he did. that is genuinely absurd
Anyone else notice the lyric change on 2:48 ? I hear "i could be so much better, could be what you all hope" but the lyrics say "I could be so much better, could be what you want" And on Spotify it says "Life cpuld be so much better, could be what you want" And in the description they only put the begining lyrics and not the end lyrics. I just wanted to point that out, i found it interesting.
theres also nearer to the start of that part theres an anvil (are you alright) just before the car theres a plane wing and engine (call me what you like) and someone said there was the bird from pebble brain but i havent found it yet
There’s not much in the comment filter, I’ve seen all the common hate comments so far, esp in replies. I don’t think they’re trying to cover anything up, ppl are just being nicer in the comments because they’re not npcs and they see how unwell Wilbur looks :( I don’t like the guy but ouch
DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT THE TRAIN THAT CRASHED IN WU&IO’s COVER IS IN THE WATER at 2:29 AND A PLANE WING AND PLANE ENGINE FROM THE COVER OF CMWYL at 2:22
we love how we see the train from the wake up and its over album finally fall into the ocean and the plain from call me what you like and the car from normal people things i wonder whats gonna be next with the album covers
but it now levees the question what was in the brief case that will looked at at the end becuse all we sew was the glowing purple on wills face so what is in there what was so bad that it made will shocked
It's clear that Wilbur's pretty much never been well mentally. I really liked the man, and I hope that he's able to fix himself and remove those harmful and abusive parts of him and reform. As much as I feel like Shelby is the primary victim in this situation and that she suffered a lot in this scenario, Wilbur's crime is not pedophilia. He can still recover from this situation, and it's not permanent. Sure, even if he does get better I'm sure some people will never look at him the same and will still hate him. Those people can die with the same hatred that got them into that pit of misery. I hope the victim of the abuse and the victim of a terrible mental state can both come back from this.
@@HollowedInsidepeople have come back from worse, and I don't think some of those people came back without earning it. Honestly, getting completely shunned by the public for the last year and likely the next couple of years as well if a worthy punishment.
@@autistic_contentcreator why did people give shovel a 3rd chance to lie? She falsely accused two exes already... Wild anyone still pays attention to her.
@@G.D.G. I agree with you some people think different wilburthought the biting wasplayful and shelby was doing the wrong thing by covering the beruises if wilbur soot just saw all of the bruises he would stop
I’m just going to post this comment so I can find someone who agrees with me on this take (I apologise, this is long as hell): I don’t understand why this situation needed to be so overly publicized. I will happily support Shelby and her decision to discuss triggering topics on unhealthy relationships and create a platform for other people with similar experiences to not feel alone or silenced, especially Shelby. There’s a big group of people that will claim that Shelby is making it all up for clout, claiming her stories change and she debunks claims of abuse but at the end of the day, it shouldn’t be centered around her life and her trauma. It should be a place for anyone to share their experience and grow from that trauma. You can choose to believe that Shelby is lying and I couldn’t give a flying fuck, but don’t actively point the finger at her when you know deep down her motive was with her viewers in mind. Back to the understanding of publicizing this scandal. The sad reality is that both Shelby and Will are just people. They might have a bit more money and popularity, but they’re not big time celebrities. Will and Shelby only really streamed minecraft like any other content creator. Will was literally streaming in an accountant office before he joined a band. Theyre ordinary people. The fact that you guys had to over exaggerate the situation recycled Shelby’s trauma to connect the dots and figure out who she claimed to be abused by is insane. . As someone who is a fan of both of them, I didn’t even know they were dating. The fact that some of you decided to hunt down the man accused of abuse so you could send him death threats and dox him before you could consider the thought of “Support the victim” shows how two faced some of you are. At this point i’m willing to support both of them. I don’t appreciate William’s actions, let alone his statement about what he claimed was consensual, but the fact that you guys are acting as if he owes everyone an apology, you’re deadass wrong. Shelby deserves an apology. You might feel betrayed by Will but you are not special in this situation. Anyways I hope both Will and Shelby get the therapy and support for them to both make the right decisions in the long run and we can forget that this fucking mess started. Edit: I love you guys so much thank you so much for the appreciation on my statement. I owe you guys my love
Exactly! I don't remember all the details, but I believe people were upset at Will for not publicly apologizing which shows that people moreso treated that as a performance. Everyone sending Will deaththreats and demanding to be kept entertained by keeping eveything public are gross, selfish people.
to be disappointed in yourself is a sign that you know your weaknesses, and to know your weaknesses you accept what you are, therefore you know you can do better, you embrace yourself and you try your best to be better
Hmmmmmmm... I wonder what that means? Definitely not something along the lines of, "Trying to make himself better!" Or something like that! Idk, feels like I read that somewhere, and people just took it as narcissism for some reason...
Kobe Bryant gave a woman have a million in hush money after SA her. That didn't stop him from being the best basketball player in our time, and having a wife and kids. The point is, you can appreciate the art and not the artist. Lots of celebrities are terrible people, that's just the world we live in. That's if you believe Wilbur is terrible. He says he's been going to therapy to get better, who says that's not true? Whichever side you're on you can still enjoy their music and shouldn't feel bad about it.
Shelby has accused her exes in the past of "abuse". I know this might not change anyones opinion on this situation but, Wilbur only admitted to being slobbish and selfish. He did not admit to the consensual biting. When they were dating, Shelby posted a lot of pictures with him and her. She wore very revealing clothes and there was no bruises. Even if she covered them with makeup, Shelby's cousin actually said that Shelby abused Wilbur. She said detail by detail. Also, if you look in those photos, Wilbur looked miserable and he had lots of bruises. Wilbur just doesn't really try to manage the situation. I don't really know why. Some people believe he has autism, but i dont think so. Shubble only takes advantage of this situation to get more followers.
@@JayJM23 did you read what i said lol, shelby has lied abt abuse in the past, wilbur may have also been abused, but he just cant handle it well ( ive also heard he autistic, but im not sure lol). But your opinions are your opinions.
@@JayJM23 plus, he gets a lot of hate. you can see it affects him as he looks ill in this music vid, and frankly i dont think hes been eating ( based off of his looks )
@@JayJM23 this was copy and pasted from another comment, copy and paste to spread the info ( the experiences in this comment are not mine ) #WilburSupporSquad (DON'T JUST HATE, ACTUALLY READ BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF ALL OF THE HATE THAT ARE ALWAYS IN THE COMMENTS) Edit: It has been pointed out to me by multiple people that not only has that woman (I refuse to say her name) has never been see with bruises, Wilbur on the other wise has many times and while she instantly went back to normal after this which an actual victim of abuse would struggle to do, Wilbur on the other hand has obviously been struggling mentally, emotionally and physically. Even more reason for me to support Wilbur. Edit 2: Honestly the more I find out about this situation the more I support Wilbur and wonder why any sane person supports this bitch. Really the fact that she and her supporters have also bullied people to suicide (with confirmed deaths) and then said the deaths were fake while whining that Wilburs supports who are doing nothing but trying to show him love and support are "attacting" her while not providing evidence, which at this point is not suprising. All of you seem to think you know everything and quiet frankly I am very disappointed and disgusted in you all who instantly believe what you are told at face value. Firstly I want to make it clear, I approve of everyone saying always support the Victim, HOWEVER you should always make sure that you know who the victim actually is. Now before anyone thinks I do not know what I am talking about I am a victim of several forms of abuse (and experience that for over 15 years) and I have also been in Wilbur's shoes in which I have lost those I thought loved and trusted me due to false allegations. Those same people who said they would forever love and support me, did not listen to my side of the story and turned their backs on me without any evidence or proof I did anything wrong every being presented. The fact the accuser (I refuse to even type her name) in this situation has already falsely accused 2 separate past partners of the same thing she is accusing Wilbur of is sus enough, but add to that the contradicting statements she has made (aka the biting thing among others) along with liking the death threat posts made against Wilbur (Amongst other things) just confirms to me that he is being set up. And to all of you who keep mentioning the biting thing, she had come out later saying that was not the problem, that it was just "weird" and that him hurting her is the problem. AKA, Contradicting herself and providing no evidence he caused hurt physical or even emotional pain. And also to those who say he admitted it. no he did not. his statement is vague and some parts can be interpreted differently however he did admit to having struggled mentally during the last few months of their relationship causing him to be a bad boyfriend and causing possible pain and hardship to his partner, in which he apologised for and is getting help for and as someone who also has had mental struggles in my life I can relate. He also said in a recent video he did not abuse her and he does not wish to talk about that right now which with how he is possibly (and most likely) still struggling due to all of you hating him, the abandonment of those he loved and the loss of his streaming career, I fully understand he why he wishes to focus on the only happiness he has right now and that is his band and performing. I want to add that I have a similar personality and quirks of Wilbur and see myself in him and disgusted people are analysing every thing he has said and done, twisting it and taking it out of context and using it as "proof" I truly believe Wilbur is innocent as I have been in the exact situation as he is (Just not a server obviously) and have seen a my fathers family friend (male) be accused of sexual assault which was proven false after a confession from the accuser that they lied, just because they had a bad break up and an acquaintance of my father (male) be accused of sexual assault as well which again was proven false, just because he rejected her advances and both men in this situation were just like Wilbur, instantly hated despite no evidence/proof and no one tried to listen to their side. I am glad that lovejoy has stayed true and believing of him throughout this and due to Wilbur's current state from his recent video I have seen he is not looking well and to be honest due to the slander, harassment, losing his twitch career, losing his friends and those his considered family (Philza and Tommy) and so on, I am not surprised he not in the best mental, emotional or physical state and that any evidence he has that he is innocent (as he states he does have) I am not surprised he has not show as every hater will instantly claim it is fake (can you tell I have experience with this?). If I am being honest I was worried he my even follow the advice of those telling him to kill him-self as I have also been there and nearly done so my-self. Life is too short and the world and it's people are cruel, I have learnt this the hard way, and now so is Wilbur. Remember everyone, Men can be victims, Women can lie, NEVER EVER take anything at face value. Get hard evidence and proof before you hate on someone and ruin a possible innocent life. Innocent until proven guilty and the fact that their is more and more evidence that the accuser in this situation is lying (if you all would do you god damn research!), I think people should LEAVE WILBUR ALONE! If you wish to hate on this comment then go right ahead, I will never be returning to this comment so I do not care, I will also be pasting this as a reply to all of you haters on your own comments just to try and spread some awareness and hopefully some of you can open your minds and maybe not judge and hate someone accused in the future before you get all the facts. Ya'll can hate on me but you leave my Boy alone
never thought I’d see another lovejoy mv in my life (unfortunately a banger..) - first of all thanks for the likes and I do not support Wilbur’s actions but we don’t know what happened in private. I love lovejoys music and have loved it since 2021. Please always believe the victim tho :)
Tell me I’m crazy but in 2:01 the tune change to the electric guitar is kinda similar to Sweater Weather by The Neighborhood when there was change in tune with an acoustic guitar
hey buddy, i’m not trying to embarrass you i just want you to know that it’s pretty smelly over here and it’s been stinky for about the last 10 minutes, if you need to go to the bathroom, you’re good to go!!
Fr never even gave a single ounce of attention to whatever even happened on Twitter, in the 80s bands where worse behind the scenes I can live with that
@@esmileusciauskaite1911 why tf are u interacting with this video if you support her? Only to sent hate to Lovejoy and their supporters? Only to make them uncomfortable? Go away please. Thank you
@@esmileusciauskaite1911shubble literally didn't provide any photo evidence, like bruises actually on her body. Plus the girl wwnt to reddit not to an actual therapist, or someone with an actual decree in that type of stuffs so..... Pluto shubble throws a tantrum each time will does something, or at least she did when will made a 'im coming back' type of video on insta.
Wilbur looks much better then the last time on Instagram, I hope you're doing better and eventually can go live again Wilbur, miss you. Great song I'm proud of how far the band has come xx
@@Linn650 They're still allegations not facts, I'm not proud of either of them it's just that Wilburs health doesn't look good at all these months and I'm worried about that aspect. I'm not a person to send death threats, slurs and terrible things to someone when someone else provided lack of evidence
At the end of the day its up to each person individually to decide wether or not they want to separate the artist from the art, I like how the music sounds no matter whos making or playing it.
thats honestly what i had to do for A LOT of the things i love unfortunately… Lovejoy (Wilbur) is sadly no different… into the box with JK Rowling you go
The problem with separating the art from the artist is that the artist still directly benefits from the sale/consumption of the art. It's definitely completely fair to separate the art from the artist in the case of someone who is deceased or if they sold the rights to the art, but in Lovejoy's and also JK Rowling's case. It's not realistic to separate them. Of course I'm not telling you what to do or think I just wanted to share my opinion, its still up to you whether you want to continue supporting these types of people or not.
100%. don't feel conflicted because some text on a screen told you not to listen to someone who's only been accused of something. if you enjoy it, just keep enjoying it. nobody can change your opinion, only you can change your own.
Honestly i don't really care what Wilbur did and i still keep listening to his music. To be honest even tho yes he did tho some pretty terrible things, it seems that in today's era people are not as forgiving as they once were. Wilbur took accountability for it immediately and has been undergoing therapy for years, people can change, its not because one person does something bad that they'll always be like this. So i think that even tho Wilbur did some pretty messed up shit, we should take the time to understand and potentially forgive him. People Can Change People Will Change
![Lovejoy - Wake Up & It’s Over (Full EP) [Official Audio]](/img/1.gif)
receiving this notification felt like getting a text from a dead family member
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Thought they were 6 feet under 😧
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WHY IS THIS SO REAL
The comments are not what I expected I thought I’d see worst 😭😭🙏🙏
They're probably filtering out words like "biting" "abuse" "shelby" etc.
Plus, RUclips comments are way less shitty than instagram or twitter comments
@@IvysAddiction They aren't. If you sort by new you see PLENTY of people talking about it and their comments aren't being deleted. Lovejoy is a popular band and countless people do not give a fuck about the shelby stuff, they just listen to the music.
@@IvysAddiction Your comment wouldn't be visible if they opened the filter for these words.
@@SoilKilonova that's not how that works, obviously the bot needs it's time to delete the comments, it isn't instant, also clearly a thing they started doing now because every single other thing they have posted has been bombarded by Shelby comments and biting stuff, because there is no way they think they can just come back from all of that so easily
He looks skinny and sick in this I’m not going to lie
yeah cuz he's a coke addict
Hes a cokehead
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@un1ty176 nope defo still on that shit😭
@@Charmingdragons yeah no surprise he’s been dealing with constant harassment because of shelby, i’m sure it’s been horrible for his mental health, and we already know he was recovering from alcoholism when she decided to start that whole smear campaign the internet is still eating up
Wilbur’s eyes are like, sunken in.. bro is not ok
he looks ill, and people hate on him still.
Shelby has accused her exes in the past of "abuse".
I know this might not change anyones opinion on this situation but, Wilbur only admitted to being slobbish and selfish. He did not admit to the consensual biting. When they were dating, Shelby posted a lot of pictures with him and her. She wore very revealing clothes and there was no bruises. Even if she covered them with makeup, Shelby's cousin actually said that Shelby abused Wilbur. She said detail by detail. Also, if you look in those photos, Wilbur looked miserable and he had lots of bruises. Wilbur just doesn't really try to manage the situation. I don't really know why. Some people believe he has autism, but i dont think so. Shubble only takes advantage of this situation to get more followers.
@@qudsiyxh.x I’m not gonna agree or disagree with you. but could I ask, where can I find the claims of “Shelby’s cousin’” ? I haven’t seen any proof of those tweets/video/wtv form it is in. Not saying youre a liar, but could you link me the sources?
@@chaotically-moonsorry for the late replay, the video has been taken down ( i think ), as i cant find it. i saw it last month
@@chaotically-moon also
this was copy and pasted from another comment, copy and paste to spread the info
( the experiences in this comment are not mine )
#WilburSupporSquad (DON'T JUST HATE, ACTUALLY READ BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF ALL OF THE HATE THAT ARE ALWAYS IN THE COMMENTS)
Edit: It has been pointed out to me by multiple people that not only has that woman (I refuse to say her name) has never been see with bruises, Wilbur on the other wise has many times and while she instantly went back to normal after this which an actual victim of abuse would struggle to do, Wilbur on the other hand has obviously been struggling mentally, emotionally and physically. Even more reason for me to support Wilbur.
Edit 2: Honestly the more I find out about this situation the more I support Wilbur and wonder why any sane person supports this bitch. Really the fact that she and her supporters have also bullied people to suicide (with confirmed deaths) and then said the deaths were fake while whining that Wilburs supports who are doing nothing but trying to show him love and support are "attacting" her while not providing evidence, which at this point is not suprising.
All of you seem to think you know everything and quiet frankly I am very disappointed and disgusted in you all who instantly believe what you are told at face value.
Firstly I want to make it clear, I approve of everyone saying always support the Victim, HOWEVER you should always make sure that you know who the victim actually is.
Now before anyone thinks I do not know what I am talking about I am a victim of several forms of abuse (and experience that for over 15 years) and I have also been in Wilbur's shoes in which I have lost those I thought loved and trusted me due to false allegations. Those same people who said they would forever love and support me, did not listen to my side of the story and turned their backs on me without any evidence or proof I did anything wrong every being presented.
The fact the accuser (I refuse to even type her name) in this situation has already falsely accused 2 separate past partners of the same thing she is accusing Wilbur of is sus enough, but add to that the contradicting statements she has made (aka the biting thing among others) along with liking the death threat posts made against Wilbur (Amongst other things) just confirms to me that he is being set up.
And to all of you who keep mentioning the biting thing, she had come out later saying that was not the problem, that it was just "weird" and that him hurting her is the problem. AKA, Contradicting herself and providing no evidence he caused hurt physical or even emotional pain.
And also to those who say he admitted it. no he did not. his statement is vague and some parts can be interpreted differently however he did admit to having struggled mentally during the last few months of their relationship causing him to be a bad boyfriend and causing possible pain and hardship to his partner, in which he apologised for and is getting help for and as someone who also has had mental struggles in my life I can relate.
He also said in a recent video he did not abuse her and he does not wish to talk about that right now which with how he is possibly (and most likely) still struggling due to all of you hating him, the abandonment of those he loved and the loss of his streaming career, I fully understand he why he wishes to focus on the only happiness he has right now and that is his band and performing.
I want to add that I have a similar personality and quirks of Wilbur and see myself in him and disgusted people are analysing every thing he has said and done, twisting it and taking it out of context and using it as "proof"
I truly believe Wilbur is innocent as I have been in the exact situation as he is (Just not a server obviously) and have seen a my fathers family friend (male) be accused of sexual assault which was proven false after a confession from the accuser that they lied, just because they had a bad break up and an acquaintance of my father (male) be accused of sexual assault as well which again was proven false, just because he rejected her advances and both men in this situation were just like Wilbur, instantly hated despite no evidence/proof and no one tried to listen to their side.
I am glad that lovejoy has stayed true and believing of him throughout this and due to Wilbur's current state from his recent video I have seen he is not looking well and to be honest due to the slander, harassment, losing his twitch career, losing his friends and those his considered family (Philza and Tommy) and so on, I am not surprised he not in the best mental, emotional or physical state and that any evidence he has that he is innocent (as he states he does have) I am not surprised he has not show as every hater will instantly claim it is fake (can you tell I have experience with this?).
If I am being honest I was worried he my even follow the advice of those telling him to kill him-self as I have also been there and nearly done so my-self.
Life is too short and the world and it's people are cruel, I have learnt this the hard way, and now so is Wilbur.
Remember everyone, Men can be victims, Women can lie, NEVER EVER take anything at face value. Get hard evidence and proof before you hate on someone and ruin a possible innocent life.
Innocent until proven guilty and the fact that their is more and more evidence that the accuser in this situation is lying (if you all would do you god damn research!), I think people should LEAVE WILBUR ALONE!
If you wish to hate on this comment then go right ahead, I will never be returning to this comment so I do not care, I will also be pasting this as a reply to all of you haters on your own comments just to try and spread some awareness and hopefully some of you can open your minds and maybe not judge and hate someone accused in the future before you get all the facts.
Ya'll can hate on me but you leave my Boy alone
@@qudsiyxh.x ah, it’s ok !! thank you for looking. :)
What's up with Lovejoy and public forms of transportation blowing up.
@@unholy_tenshi fr tho 😭
I'm no mechanic but I don't think that supposed to happen
and homes
@@HalfCooked_SprigFRANNCES PFP CULT
fr like maybe they are just arsonists
It’s like craving poison just because it once tasted sweet
It’s good music
@@rj6717he means the things about wilbur
What he did was wrong but this man lost his life work, a dear friend, his reputation and the people that looked up to him now hate him, the torment he probably is going thru I wouldn't wish it to my worst enemy
@@Wulk Yea
@@sunwukong798 No its craving a chocolate bc it tasted sweet
The feeling of missing someone I shouldn't miss is so shitty.
im glad im not the only one
Same here :(
sameee
real.
Welcome to the club, man
somethings telling me he is NOT sober.
hey so maybe we dont make fun of addictions !! because it seems shelby has an addiction of lying about exes !! shes done if 1(maybe 2) times before wilbur?
@@Tomzsigma Wilbur confirmed it lmao
@@moutondemocrate6874 he confirmed being a shitty bf, not being abusive
Well your slow then
It's true he said he bit with concent and he admitted to being slobish and had but not abuse he did not admit to that -_😕_-
Receiving this notification felt like I was getting a text from an old friend that you missed but you feel like you shouldn't.
that is exactly the feeling. you put it to words in a way I couldn't think how to do
no not really
real
exactly, missing someone that you know did bad things
SO TRUE
That thumbnail gave me the jumpscare 😂
Fr
fnaf ahh
I actually got jumpscared by a clip in the music video of Wilbur standing there I looked up at that moment and screamed so loud 😭
Abuser
@@jaykwelin7427 not exactly necessary but okay you do you
I don't believe any of these men know how to operate a submarine lol
Huh
He may not know how submarines function, but Captain Goldsmith can bake a mean cake!
@@Tomtainius lol i claim no doubts about that! XD
you guys all passed the vibe check lmfao
@@TylerCatastrophe its a music video
LoveJoy’s destroyed a plane, train, bus, and car already. I wonder what’s next, a helicopter?
Don’t give them any new ideas
and house
lovejoy:@the terrorist organisation
69 likes, nice
i mean, wil also destroyed shelbys arm so
"What does your heart say? Will you listen anyway?" is indeed the question
My heart says yes and I will indeed listen anyway!
Huh
real line
My heart says not to but I'll listen anyway
@@oh_its_riptide you're so real for that
What’s gonna blow up next, another song, or another form of transportation. Not like they already destroyed a plane, train, and car
Perhaps a bus?
maybe another abuse victim coming forwards! is a mid british boy band rlly worth sacrificing ur morals over..
@@Alexander_Hamiltonnn they already did that
@@TowFss a bus? When
@@Alexander_Hamiltonnn MODEL BUSES
3:02 Wilbur soot unboxing video
THATS WHAT I WAS WAITING FORR
LMFAO banger pfp btw
HELPEPPEPPE THIS MADE ME GIGGLE SM
@@bananas8762SIREN MENTIONED?
COOKIE SWIRL C HEHEHEHE!
no but will does look significantly thinner, dude has NOT been eating enough
[Insert biting joke here]
he bites people but not food
@@cactusfox3608 He did bad stuff but bro…He’s mental, he should be getting help and as you see he probably has developed an eating disorder from it. Let him be…
Fr I hope he gets better 🙏
I Wonder why :/
lovejoy and their obsession to blow up every transport that they can find
This is so fr
Up next i want a semi truck or perhaps a tank
So True- I would not be surprised if a semi truck or tank was next, even a bus lol
Soon they’ll be damaging escalators or smth lol
Oh god the buses will be next
this feels like getting a call from a dead friend who you never shouldve missed
A dead friend who’s gon bite u 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Super original, yeah, totally not stolen
Gtfo from comment section
@@missing840fr lmao
@@strvmpet man gtfo hater
This song dropping is such a bittersweet moment...
Yeah… I couldn’t understand half the words in the last verse before (the lyrics of which, for some reason, aren’t written in the description) but it makes me want to cry just a bit every time
@@clubpankakeMy theory is that The Brighton Nibbler was talking about skin so they didn't include that in the description.
@@clubpankake can i have a timestamp for when your talking about pls?
@@thatoneguyehehee 2:22
Really puts the BIT in bittersweet
Will looks half dead..
Hes turning to url revivedbur 🤐
Wish he was full
The consequences of his own actions
@@crypticcrimson080 Despite what he has done its still not cool to wish death on someone
@@Bananabo-at he more than deserves it for what he has done so nty
Someone give will a shower and food 🙏
and a muzzle please, don't want him biting anyone
Real :( he looks so unwell…
@@starsalmon1 ha-ha. Hilarious.
@@monochromatic143 I am genuinely happy to see people actually caring in the comments and not being so stale like NPCs.
@@SharzziiIt really is
In my opinion, separating the art from the artist is made easier when the art is *really fucking good*
yea, i want to hate the song, but its so good. just sperate the art from the artist
@@BigLichen it is very conflicting indeed
real
@@BigLichen it ur opinion but its still HIS song, for example i couldn't listen to someones voice every day that was my idol and turned out to be a dog
Fr, I hate Wilbur but lovejoy isn’t just Wilbur
I’m not opening twitter after this. I’m living my lovejoy life in peace.
Amen 😭
POP OFF QUEEN!
retweet
Period
At the moment im trying to slowly get back into them and separate the art from the artist
to everyone saying will looks sick or skinny: he will look good when he's sober
fr
based
he won't but he'll bite when he's sober
@@justthenormal489stfu man your not funny😭
@@justthenormal489 Shut up your dad will come back when he's sober
I beg for a sign telling me there’s something good to come from this
same
same
We can only hope
Who knows my friend, who knows.
@@karlaangelicaperez1286he's not a pedophile 😭
Forgot how good this band was is stopped listening to them when all the controversy happened but you have to admit they make some bangers
I feel exactly the same way omg
Yeah everyone just needs to move on and enjoy lovejoy bangers. Why would you deprive yourself of such good chunage?
Ye same like was the controversy even true?? Im rly confused abt that
@@Hey_its_Pip he literally admitted it was true that part isnt the question
I mean he didn't fully admit to anything.@@Mariana-zc1gx
Now how many things did they put in the comment filter.
Not much clearly. But if you ever upload any video to RUclips then you’ll notice there’s comment moderation tools (which are AI) automatically set by RUclips to censor certain words and phrases. You can turn them off but it’s probably too much effort for them without the trouble of spam and phishing bots. RUclips forces the censor and the anti-bot features into one thing so i dont think they had a choice
i don't think so there is any comment filters just see the latest comments.
None
none actually, notice how i can say shelby, shubble, abuser, allegations, etc etc, it's not filtered, people just like the song
@@ghostfork6783 damn, what a surprising day on the internet
i miss lovejoy and wilbur's music. at least i know the man isnt dead or completely wiped off the face of the earth
With the amount of death threats against him, I am too.
Just because he's a bad person doesn't mean he deserves death threats and doxxing. When they canceled Coachella for his health alot of people probably thought the worse. And idk if the shubble fans pushing his fans to commit is real or not. I miss old mcyt, stampy, popularmmos, sky(before) etc.
@@theamazingpoof2205yea. wilbur shouldn't be forgiven since hes response was kinda ass but i agree he doesn't deserve the doxxing and death threats. i wish things were different i really liked wilbur content tbh i don't support wilbur btw.
Hes gonna bite you bro look out 😭😭😭
@@Wart1mes I dont get why people think he shouldnt be forgiven or that his respose was bad. First off, everybody desrves a second chance, no matter what, and people who dont agree are being immature imo. Shubble has made false allegations before, and she has not even mentioned having evifdence of this, and its just all around really stupid and petty of her to tell the famously agressive internet community instead of dealing with it privately like an adult. I persolnally think Shubble's side is untrustworthy, so I stll support Wilbur. Even if he did do something, it clearly wasnt intentional, and he has apologised for what he did do and he is seeking therapy.
Remember, Innocent until proven guilty, the burden of proof is on the accuser, and everone deserves a second chance.
The comments are about to go crazy LOL 😭
grow up
@@shinotsuki883they are right though the comments are still at it with each other even tho Shelby moved on, she got what she wanted to spread awareness and Wilbur moved on still making music at this point the comments are at it just for fun
@@shinotsuki883 fr
@@shinotsuki883 I will, don't worry! You too
@@Casiclyst Couldn't have explained it better 💪
Seeing this pop up on my feed feels bittersweet...
Ikr
weird to say, but I glad he's actually alive
same
@@gary_talk same
I know me too!
Some people don't realise that you can hate someone but don't have to want them dead
real tho??
Imagine losing a dear friend and then lose your life work, reputation and been hated by the people that once look up on you. It is a miracle that he is still able to sing
I spent 60 hours on my contribution to this video (the animation 2:00 - 3:00) and I was cracking myself up the whole time while making it 😁 hope you enjoyed the video, talented people on the team ❤
OMG, BRO, U DID SUCH A GOOD JOB ❤❤
OMG REALLY??? THANK YOU SO MUCHHH
Damn dude, nice job
looks incredible
looks sick man!
So now the dillemma for all of us: Can you separate the artist from the art?
Really bittersweet for me, because its a banger....
90% of my playlist has people who did questionable things, so if I couldn't then I guess I wouldn't have many songs left. Imo, what Wilbur did wasn't even that bad. Sure, it's abuse but its not like Shelby was fearing for her life or anything. Take Ozzy Osbourne (was also part of metal band Black Sabbath) as an example. He tried to kill his wife by strangulation while high, bit animals heads off, and apparently didn't have the best personality in the 70s/80s...
I have the same dilemma right now. Have not listened to the song because I kind of feel sick at the thought of listening to it. I feel a big sense of betrayal.
I really loved Lovejoy. It was my favorite band and second favorite overal to listen to.
I don't want to give money to an abuser. I don't want to contribute. I don't want to engage and I don't want to make things worse.
I'm not interested in crusifying Wilbur. The internet has done enough. But I don't want to welcome him or the people who he associates with back into my arms like nothing happened either.
To the person who made the comment above me:
Just because someone (another artist) did something worse does *not* mean the things Will did aren't "that" bad.
That's a terrible argument.
Like saying stealing a purse isn't bad because someone stole a suitcase. Bad things are bad no matter the intensity or how many people do it. Making comparisons like that normalizes violence.
If you don't care about giving your money to terrible people you can do that if you so desire. A lot of people do care about the things they influence with their money and attention.
That's why I think I'll let this go for now. No more engaging. No watching, no ads. I don't want anything to do with it anymore.
I don't think I could ever again enjoy their music in the same way I did again.
All thanks to you Will, thank you for fkng it all up! 👍
(That's my goodbye forever)
@@Xeyal1001people can change, im sure everything hit will like a truck (at least I hope) understand people do shit but it’s what u do to become better that counts. As long as he’s genuinely trying and it seems so
@@Xeyal1001even just leaving this comment is supporting him bro. at most your perceived idea of moral purity by not supporting a band you like because some guy and his gf had horrible communication skills years ago is virtue signaling. you’re not making any difference either way. either enjoy it or don’t, you have 0 impact on their success and you’re only depriving yourself
@@karladt9377 saying abuse isnt that bad because it wasnt life threatening is CRAZZYYY.. he LITERALLY physically abused her, human bites are dangerous can EASILY become extremely infected. you cant just compare what he did to a more extreme case to excuse what he did. that is genuinely absurd
dude has NOT been sober
Anyone else notice the lyric change on 2:48 ? I hear "i could be so much better, could be what you all hope" but the lyrics say "I could be so much better, could be what you want" And on Spotify it says "Life cpuld be so much better, could be what you want" And in the description they only put the begining lyrics and not the end lyrics. I just wanted to point that out, i found it interesting.
I don't think the lyrics changed, Spotify probably used some automatic lyrics generator since that part isn't really listed on their description.
Deleted Twitter so I can enjoy the music
on god bro 😭
you're so real for that bro Twitter is CRAZY
Valid🔥
Same 😅
Deleting Twitter is a good choice regardless of anything else mate, good job!
Oh let’s see how this goes
How did it go?
Goes pretty hard
@@E_Hammy I have to agree with you on that
Why’s this a bop
@@cc.cleric fr
Wilbur looks like hes lost a LOT of weight...
he looks really unhealthy
Yeah i feel bad for him :(
That's what happens when fucking idiots open there mouths just to lie. Hes innocent! There's no proof!!
But it's fine, he'll look good when he's sober
@@isaacthegoofygooberno.. this isn’t the time for jokes man….
damn, this song bites
unfunny and unoriginal
10/10 comment
HAHAHAHAH
YOU DID NOT 😭 💀
So does your attitude bro
3:02 me after my 50th coffee
Xd😂
Depends if cappuchino or black coffe OR latte machiato.
2:17 THE ALBUM REFERENCES?? (Anvil, car wheel, airplane wing and jet thing plus the train OMGG)
Bars! "Anvil, car wheel, airplane wing, jet thing, train" is a hard line
Plus the dead bird
@@DeadByDusk wheres the bird ive been looking for like 20 mins after i noticed the other references 😭
@@po1s0n.x.ivyroseit’s a bird skeleton. it sweeps right across the screen
erm did none of you see the news that wilbur’s an abuser or do you just not care…
Anyone noticed the car and the train from previous albums? 2:28
theres also nearer to the start of that part theres an anvil (are you alright) just before the car theres a plane wing and engine (call me what you like) and someone said there was the bird from pebble brain but i havent found it yet
@@po1s0n.x.ivyroseI think it’s the bird on 2:20
@@L3G3ND4RY-NPC help i jst rewatched it and can see its a bird now, i thought it was a walrus 😭 tysm tho!
@@po1s0n.x.ivyrosenp if u find the anbuk can u pls show me the time?😅 I can’t find it
@@L3G3ND4RY-NPC im so lost help, dym the anvil? if you do i can get the time stamp cus ik where it is
This is honestly quite gut wrenching, because part of me still loves this dude’s music. But what? Wilbur looks sick-
bro give Wilbur some food 😭🙏
Let the man be
dont
@@4nnaSophi3 give
Bros ran out of people to chew on 😭
@@sockscavLOLLLLL
The thumbnail is such a jumpscare 💀
Fr
a good one for sure though
Let's be real. This song ATE
Yeah and bit me
@esmileusciauskaite1911 LMAOO
Fuckinn lmaoo9o
IT DEFINITELY DID
as soon as I saw this comment i knew someone was gonna make a biting joke
Test : did they put "support victims" in the comment filter ?
Nope.
There’s not much in the comment filter, I’ve seen all the common hate comments so far, esp in replies. I don’t think they’re trying to cover anything up, ppl are just being nicer in the comments because they’re not npcs and they see how unwell Wilbur looks :( I don’t like the guy but ouch
Why would they do that?
@@BoberTeeto show they dont care... its such a fucking chad move to get cancelled and then come back with a fucking banger
@@damollieobdormiscowhy would anyone care about his well being when he didnt care about shubble’s???? I don’t understand people like this
Don’t know how to feel honestly song still slaps
My feelings as well..
DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT THE TRAIN THAT CRASHED IN WU&IO’s COVER IS IN THE WATER at 2:29 AND A PLANE WING AND PLANE ENGINE FROM THE COVER OF CMWYL at 2:22
THE CAR TOO SILLY
@@Nikki3-pe6bm OH YEAH THE CAR FRON NORMAL PEOPLE THINGS TOO
AND THE ANVIL FROM ARE YOU ALRIGHT TOOO
W
OMGGG I DIDNT NOTICE
we love how we see the train from the wake up and its over album finally fall into the ocean and the plain from call me what you like and the car from normal people things i wonder whats gonna be next with the album covers
but it now levees the question what was in the brief case that will looked at at the end becuse all we sew was the glowing purple on wills face so what is in there what was so bad that it made will shocked
@@MrRainbowPro at the end of the music for call me what you like there's the same purple glow that will is terrified at
its the nether portal
There is also the anvil from Are You Alright! :)
@@po1s0n.x.ivyrose so that still levels the question of what is it and why is will scared about it and it looks like it might have a story
completely unrelated but this situation honestly made me think about how much rappers get away with shit like what wilbur did on a much larger scale
Fr :(
Still ain't an excuse for what he did
He didn't do anything. You can't even get laid
I feel like some rappers like Drake did worse and still got away with it. At least Wilbur's case is still somewhat ongoing.
Drake.
these guys are gonna be fine imo. never as big as they once were, but theyll do fine. i kinda hope wills doing okay, mentally
he is not doing okay mentally and has never been and it shows❤️
hope it gets worse for him❤️
he fukin bit people wtf 😭
It's clear that Wilbur's pretty much never been well mentally. I really liked the man, and I hope that he's able to fix himself and remove those harmful and abusive parts of him and reform. As much as I feel like Shelby is the primary victim in this situation and that she suffered a lot in this scenario, Wilbur's crime is not pedophilia. He can still recover from this situation, and it's not permanent. Sure, even if he does get better I'm sure some people will never look at him the same and will still hate him. Those people can die with the same hatred that got them into that pit of misery. I hope the victim of the abuse and the victim of a terrible mental state can both come back from this.
@@HollowedInsidepeople have come back from worse, and I don't think some of those people came back without earning it. Honestly, getting completely shunned by the public for the last year and likely the next couple of years as well if a worthy punishment.
don't really care about drama, this song is very good.
indeed yes!!
it's not just drama. it's literal abuse.
@@fabledpigeon then why did she bring it to the internet instead of the authorities, or court?
also i agree, song's a banger fr
@@eggburfoot preach bro i talk about this on my channel too often
can’t wait to open twitter
They'll be fighting, while we're eating the popcorn
@@TherapistBoughtFromWishreal both Shelby and Will seemed to have moved on but twitter can't 😭
Haha fr
@@Casiclyst this is a great perspective
@@TherapistBoughtFromWishyesss haha
Happy people aren’t just showing hate for the drama, and just appreciating the music side of this 😊
Well I gave him a second chance but if he does it again then no he can get the fuck away
@@autistic_contentcreator why did people give shovel a 3rd chance to lie? She falsely accused two exes already...
Wild anyone still pays attention to her.
@@G.D.G. fr, youre just too based I fear! 👑
@@G.D.G. I agree with you some people think different wilburthought the biting wasplayful and shelby was doing the wrong thing by covering the beruises if wilbur soot just saw all of the bruises he would stop
@@G.D.G. fr, all the wilbur hate is unjustified w/ no evidence
The instruments in this is amazing. LOVEJOY IS BACK BOIS!
YESS🎉🎉🎉🎉
hope they retire soon guh
@@GayAubreyAlt if u don’t like them then y u commenting? To get attention from people or something? To feel pride?
@@GayAubreyAlt good luck hoping hun
@@aaronkelly9377 idk i dont exactly like how someone who i used to look up to is now a sexual abuser
I'LL PROMISE YOU I LOOK GOOD WHEN I'M SOBER 🗣🗣🗣
TELL ME WHAT DOES YOUR HEART SAY
WOULD YOU LISTEN ANYWAY? 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️
AND I PROMISE YOU I'LL LOOK GOOD WHEN I'M SOBER ❗️❗️❗️❗️🗣🗣🗣🗣
yeah and even if i'm sober i'll bite you anyway💀
@@ZaaaK.AriiiA you aren't funny
WHY DOES WILBUR LOOK SO THIN 😟
I know bro its concerning
That’s a really fucking weird thing to comment…..
I think he’s st@rving himself…
@@androeatsfishit’s concerning. We’re worried
It could end one of two ways and I don't like either one
I’m just going to post this comment so I can find someone who agrees with me on this take (I apologise, this is long as hell):
I don’t understand why this situation needed to be so overly publicized. I will happily support Shelby and her decision to discuss triggering topics on unhealthy relationships and create a platform for other people with similar experiences to not feel alone or silenced, especially Shelby. There’s a big group of people that will claim that Shelby is making it all up for clout, claiming her stories change and she debunks claims of abuse but at the end of the day, it shouldn’t be centered around her life and her trauma. It should be a place for anyone to share their experience and grow from that trauma. You can choose to believe that Shelby is lying and I couldn’t give a flying fuck, but don’t actively point the finger at her when you know deep down her motive was with her viewers in mind.
Back to the understanding of publicizing this scandal. The sad reality is that both Shelby and Will are just people. They might have a bit more money and popularity, but they’re not big time celebrities. Will and Shelby only really streamed minecraft like any other content creator. Will was literally streaming in an accountant office before he joined a band. Theyre ordinary people. The fact that you guys had to over exaggerate the situation recycled Shelby’s trauma to connect the dots and figure out who she claimed to be abused by is insane. . As someone who is a fan of both of them, I didn’t even know they were dating. The fact that some of you decided to hunt down the man accused of abuse so you could send him death threats and dox him before you could consider the thought of “Support the victim” shows how two faced some of you are.
At this point i’m willing to support both of them. I don’t appreciate William’s actions, let alone his statement about what he claimed was consensual, but the fact that you guys are acting as if he owes everyone an apology, you’re deadass wrong. Shelby deserves an apology. You might feel betrayed by Will but you are not special in this situation.
Anyways I hope both Will and Shelby get the therapy and support for them to both make the right decisions in the long run and we can forget that this fucking mess started.
Edit: I love you guys so much thank you so much for the appreciation on my statement. I owe you guys my love
Holy, that is long. I agree tho
I agree too
will also looks really unwell in this video
I completely agree
Exactly! I don't remember all the details, but I believe people were upset at Will for not publicly apologizing which shows that people moreso treated that as a performance. Everyone sending Will deaththreats and demanding to be kept entertained by keeping eveything public are gross, selfish people.
When I look into the intro my FIRST thought was: Why does Wilbur looks like Deadpool?!?
I just send this and like!
Dont you dare insult deadpool like that.
@@allowarden oh
Bro I laughed so hard I chocked 😂💀
LMAO DEADPOOL
getting this notification was like having a feverdresm
must be more like a nightmare if you ask me
@@yourrightnostril8160tbf 🌚
Bro same 😭
@@yourrightnostril8160well they didn’t ask you☺️
@@markreimer8347 wasn't talking to u was I :) also how does it feel supporting an abuser? must be fun?
to be disappointed in yourself is a sign that you know your weaknesses, and to know your weaknesses you accept what you are,
therefore you know you can do better, you embrace yourself and you try your best to be better
Hmmmmmmm... I wonder what that means?
Definitely not something along the lines of, "Trying to make himself better!" Or something like that! Idk, feels like I read that somewhere, and people just took it as narcissism for some reason...
@ANerdinAnyRegard well he's trying to be better, what else can he do? She has almost ruined his career, thousands hate him, seems like a victim to me
@@E_Hammyincel comment
@@WarewolfninjaX inbred comment,
Edit: I'm not listening to any person with "wolf" AND "ninja" in their name 😂😂
@@E_Hammy hear hear!
Kobe Bryant gave a woman have a million in hush money after SA her. That didn't stop him from being the best basketball player in our time, and having a wife and kids. The point is, you can appreciate the art and not the artist. Lots of celebrities are terrible people, that's just the world we live in. That's if you believe Wilbur is terrible. He says he's been going to therapy to get better, who says that's not true? Whichever side you're on you can still enjoy their music and shouldn't feel bad about it.
I really don't believe that he abused her, but this is a good point!
That’s true and all, but therapy doesn’t really change what happened. It’s not an excuse, but it’s good that he’s bettering himself.
WE (aren't) MAKIN IT OUT THE SUBMARINE WITH THIS ONE BOYS ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Those poor men do not know what they are doing in that submarine
we're definitely not gonna get out of the submarine with this one
Arctic Monkeys-esque ending never fails to disappoint, love live Lovejoy.
or live laugh lovejoy lmao
My thought EXACTLY
you are insane still eating up an abusers content
@@hana-ke8jw why are you even commenting? I thought you don’t like them so why you on their video? You’re just giving them more retention…
@@paradowska1009 WHY DO I FIND THAT SO FUNNY? that's the best version of that saying i can remember hearing
“TELL ME WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS? WILL YOU LISTEN ANIWAY?” I'M SO FUCKING DEAD AFTER THAT.
@@angelicamilenaservingonzal8446 that line bit me
He didn’t listen when she told him not to bite so hard
@@JohnNoodle4not3According to Shubble herself, about a month ago, yes, he did
@@JohnNoodle4not3 you got any proof for that?
@@meh_81 you’re an asshole for not believing shubble
Shelby has accused her exes in the past of "abuse".
I know this might not change anyones opinion on this situation but, Wilbur only admitted to being slobbish and selfish. He did not admit to the consensual biting. When they were dating, Shelby posted a lot of pictures with him and her. She wore very revealing clothes and there was no bruises. Even if she covered them with makeup, Shelby's cousin actually said that Shelby abused Wilbur. She said detail by detail. Also, if you look in those photos, Wilbur looked miserable and he had lots of bruises. Wilbur just doesn't really try to manage the situation. I don't really know why. Some people believe he has autism, but i dont think so. Shubble only takes advantage of this situation to get more followers.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!!!
Bruv it’s abuse there’s no excuse even if he deserves a second chance at the end end of the day it’s still abuse
@@JayJM23 did you read what i said lol, shelby has lied abt abuse in the past, wilbur may have also been abused, but he just cant handle it well ( ive also heard he autistic, but im not sure lol). But your opinions are your opinions.
@@JayJM23 plus, he gets a lot of hate. you can see it affects him as he looks ill in this music vid, and frankly i dont think hes been eating ( based off of his looks )
@@JayJM23 this was copy and pasted from another comment, copy and paste to spread the info
( the experiences in this comment are not mine )
#WilburSupporSquad (DON'T JUST HATE, ACTUALLY READ BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF ALL OF THE HATE THAT ARE ALWAYS IN THE COMMENTS)
Edit: It has been pointed out to me by multiple people that not only has that woman (I refuse to say her name) has never been see with bruises, Wilbur on the other wise has many times and while she instantly went back to normal after this which an actual victim of abuse would struggle to do, Wilbur on the other hand has obviously been struggling mentally, emotionally and physically. Even more reason for me to support Wilbur.
Edit 2: Honestly the more I find out about this situation the more I support Wilbur and wonder why any sane person supports this bitch. Really the fact that she and her supporters have also bullied people to suicide (with confirmed deaths) and then said the deaths were fake while whining that Wilburs supports who are doing nothing but trying to show him love and support are "attacting" her while not providing evidence, which at this point is not suprising.
All of you seem to think you know everything and quiet frankly I am very disappointed and disgusted in you all who instantly believe what you are told at face value.
Firstly I want to make it clear, I approve of everyone saying always support the Victim, HOWEVER you should always make sure that you know who the victim actually is.
Now before anyone thinks I do not know what I am talking about I am a victim of several forms of abuse (and experience that for over 15 years) and I have also been in Wilbur's shoes in which I have lost those I thought loved and trusted me due to false allegations. Those same people who said they would forever love and support me, did not listen to my side of the story and turned their backs on me without any evidence or proof I did anything wrong every being presented.
The fact the accuser (I refuse to even type her name) in this situation has already falsely accused 2 separate past partners of the same thing she is accusing Wilbur of is sus enough, but add to that the contradicting statements she has made (aka the biting thing among others) along with liking the death threat posts made against Wilbur (Amongst other things) just confirms to me that he is being set up.
And to all of you who keep mentioning the biting thing, she had come out later saying that was not the problem, that it was just "weird" and that him hurting her is the problem. AKA, Contradicting herself and providing no evidence he caused hurt physical or even emotional pain.
And also to those who say he admitted it. no he did not. his statement is vague and some parts can be interpreted differently however he did admit to having struggled mentally during the last few months of their relationship causing him to be a bad boyfriend and causing possible pain and hardship to his partner, in which he apologised for and is getting help for and as someone who also has had mental struggles in my life I can relate.
He also said in a recent video he did not abuse her and he does not wish to talk about that right now which with how he is possibly (and most likely) still struggling due to all of you hating him, the abandonment of those he loved and the loss of his streaming career, I fully understand he why he wishes to focus on the only happiness he has right now and that is his band and performing.
I want to add that I have a similar personality and quirks of Wilbur and see myself in him and disgusted people are analysing every thing he has said and done, twisting it and taking it out of context and using it as "proof"
I truly believe Wilbur is innocent as I have been in the exact situation as he is (Just not a server obviously) and have seen a my fathers family friend (male) be accused of sexual assault which was proven false after a confession from the accuser that they lied, just because they had a bad break up and an acquaintance of my father (male) be accused of sexual assault as well which again was proven false, just because he rejected her advances and both men in this situation were just like Wilbur, instantly hated despite no evidence/proof and no one tried to listen to their side.
I am glad that lovejoy has stayed true and believing of him throughout this and due to Wilbur's current state from his recent video I have seen he is not looking well and to be honest due to the slander, harassment, losing his twitch career, losing his friends and those his considered family (Philza and Tommy) and so on, I am not surprised he not in the best mental, emotional or physical state and that any evidence he has that he is innocent (as he states he does have) I am not surprised he has not show as every hater will instantly claim it is fake (can you tell I have experience with this?).
If I am being honest I was worried he my even follow the advice of those telling him to kill him-self as I have also been there and nearly done so my-self.
Life is too short and the world and it's people are cruel, I have learnt this the hard way, and now so is Wilbur.
Remember everyone, Men can be victims, Women can lie, NEVER EVER take anything at face value. Get hard evidence and proof before you hate on someone and ruin a possible innocent life.
Innocent until proven guilty and the fact that their is more and more evidence that the accuser in this situation is lying (if you all would do you god damn research!), I think people should LEAVE WILBUR ALONE!
If you wish to hate on this comment then go right ahead, I will never be returning to this comment so I do not care, I will also be pasting this as a reply to all of you haters on your own comments just to try and spread some awareness and hopefully some of you can open your minds and maybe not judge and hate someone accused in the future before you get all the facts.
Ya'll can hate on me but you leave my Boy alone
never thought I’d see another lovejoy mv in my life
(unfortunately a banger..)
- first of all thanks for the likes and I do not support Wilbur’s actions but we don’t know what happened in private.
I love lovejoys music and have loved it since 2021. Please always believe the victim tho :)
unfortunately, real 😔
if you don't support them please find another source to listen, they shouldn't get the views imo
Why unfortunately? This band is the best
@@ShXda1 They bite :(
@@ShXda1I don’t know if you know what happened but even tho they make great music some of the members are quite problematic
1:28 there is someone in the hall way.
Yes
It’s jshlatt can’t you see
@@sallyvope192 i swear this made me CACKLE
Tell me I’m crazy but in 2:01 the tune change to the electric guitar is kinda similar to Sweater Weather by The Neighborhood when there was change in tune with an acoustic guitar
Damn that’s a cool observation
Yo damnm😦
I hope wilbur is ok because he looks dead in the video
That's what I thought. he looks like he's not been eating. I hope he's OK too
@@lochlannwass5038not eating can be caused from either a large amounts of stress or from crowd control such as audience’s messages, or haters’ threats
@@norairtarasov6523 yeah I wonder why he must be slimmer huh
No one cares about him he’s an abuser
Wilbur is the best
I literally can’t stop playing this song on repeat, the bridge goes CRAZY omg this is gonna be my #1 on Spotify wrapped
@@strangeity SAME DUDE IM ADDICTED 😭
ITS SUCH A GOOD SONG ITS AMAZING
this isn’t something to be proud of
hey buddy, i’m not trying to embarrass you i just want you to know that it’s pretty smelly over here and it’s been stinky for about the last 10 minutes, if you need to go to the bathroom, you’re good to go!!
😭@@mizuan
Listening to this is like getting a call from a old friend that betrayed me
Litteraly
LITERALLY!
yup
RIGHT 😭😭😭
Frrrrr
They didnt ate they DEVOURED with this song holy shit
Briton Biter has some experince in that department
@@TurboKnight1😭😭😭
@@TurboKnight1 you suck at spelling btw
Spell it right atleast lmfao @TurboKnight1
I mean he did devour Shelby too
At this point I’m doing a Wilbur soot and deleting twitter and being peacefully naive. Idgaf at this point.
Real.
yup be ignorant
Fr never even gave a single ounce of attention to whatever even happened on Twitter, in the 80s bands where worse behind the scenes I can live with that
Probably a good choice lol
@@churroburro-813 never thought about it like that but yeah, that is true.
Omg ,is Wilbur okay he looks like his malnourished! 😮
Im concerned for him
thank you for finally feeding us lovejoyers
@@your_glitche good luck getting bitten💋
@@esmileusciauskaite1911woop woop
@@esmileusciauskaite1911 why tf are u interacting with this video if you support her? Only to sent hate to Lovejoy and their supporters? Only to make them uncomfortable? Go away please. Thank you
@@esmileusciauskaite1911shubble literally didn't provide any photo evidence, like bruises actually on her body. Plus the girl wwnt to reddit not to an actual therapist, or someone with an actual decree in that type of stuffs so..... Pluto shubble throws a tantrum each time will does something, or at least she did when will made a 'im coming back' type of video on insta.
@@esmileusciauskaite1911thanks 😌💕
oh Wilbur have you not been eating?..
i hope not
no gf to eat
@@LawKuro awful
@@whosdaloo I hope not
💀💀💀💀💀
bit happier now :)
@@krlswrld :D
YIPPEE!!!! NOW I CAN MAKE FANART OF THIS CERTIFIED BANGER!! #LoveForLovejoy
ILGWIS DROPPING FEELS LIKE CHRISTMAS MORNING!!!
Omg trueeee
YEAHHHH IM EXCITED FOR THE FAN ARTS
same! i'm putting the phrase live laugh lovejoy somewhere cause i saw that in another comment and it was hilarious
@@privspiralgalaxy it's like when you get an early birthday or christmas present.
gnaw has a whole new meaning
HELP
@@N0tlily OH NO DID WILBUR GET YOU AHHHHHHH
This song absolutely slaps
personally i think it bites
I think it punches and hurts less than this
This is like someone getting fired then still coming back to work the next day pretending nothing happened
Wilbur looks much better then the last time on Instagram, I hope you're doing better and eventually can go live again Wilbur, miss you. Great song I'm proud of how far the band has come xx
I still feel bad for him because he is so thin, like really so thin
I am so glad he's looking better, but he really needs to be shown that people support him and that he is loved, regardless of whatever happened
Did you forget what he did...
@@Linn650 They're still allegations not facts, I'm not proud of either of them it's just that Wilburs health doesn't look good at all these months and I'm worried about that aspect. I'm not a person to send death threats, slurs and terrible things to someone when someone else provided lack of evidence
@@Idontknowwhat8plus3is "Miss you" "xx" does not have anything to do with this statement?
2:23 you can see the npt car, the cmwyl plane and the wu&io train. LOVE THAT DETAIL AND WELCOME BACK LOVEJOY
I've already made two wallpapers based on that part, I love it so much!
People searching this out to comment hate are pathetic 😭😭 nobody forces you to watch or listen.
well it should be normal not to watch for everyone if you don't support abuse💀
@@ZaaaK.AriiiA
Art
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The artist
Did you notice the separation?
@@ZaaaK.AriiiA seeking out someone who has had allegations backtracked by the alleged victim just to hate is a new level of obsessed 💀
Based
@@hailon_rias7341 you win best comment ong
Happy to see wilbur in this video again❤❤️🩹
i bet you won't be happy when he chews on your arm
@@moonsail0r23 Idk if he gonna do that again lmaoo
@@moonsail0r23you act like he was biting fans. Jesus, get some help.
I LOVE YOU WILBUR
🫂🫂
YESSSS
@@user-vu9uw8bq5d freak alert ‼️🚨
You support a abuser?
@@user-vu9uw8bq5d freak alert 🚨‼️
Guys, is it just me or does Wilbur look too thin? :[
he’s on cocaine
@@ViaEarly..
Woke up to this and it’s over, this is one of the coolest things this year
agreeeddd.
(also heyyy Wilvian👋)
Agreed
wu&io reference??!!?!!??
Yeah! (I know you from c@s and Ellie’s channel)
At the end of the day its up to each person individually to decide wether or not they want to separate the artist from the art, I like how the music sounds no matter whos making or playing it.
100% dude
Now that's someone who gets music. Ain't about the maker it's about the sound
thats honestly what i had to do for A LOT of the things i love unfortunately… Lovejoy (Wilbur) is sadly no different… into the box with JK Rowling you go
The problem with separating the art from the artist is that the artist still directly benefits from the sale/consumption of the art. It's definitely completely fair to separate the art from the artist in the case of someone who is deceased or if they sold the rights to the art, but in Lovejoy's and also JK Rowling's case. It's not realistic to separate them. Of course I'm not telling you what to do or think I just wanted to share my opinion, its still up to you whether you want to continue supporting these types of people or not.
100%.
don't feel conflicted because some text on a screen told you not to listen to someone who's only been accused of something.
if you enjoy it, just keep enjoying it. nobody can change your opinion, only you can change your own.
they gotta be deleting comments on this one chief
ong😭
Nope, just fans here to listen to the music
No? They is just less hate? The other video has explictly more hate
@Alexander_Hamiltonnn they are deleting comments lmao.
@@allowarden no? I sound pletny of hate on the other one, chances are its youtube, not them. Violent threats and such get auto deleted
OMG! THIS IS CRAZY! THIS SONG IS A BANGER
FR
Real
LITERAL BANGER
2:13 did anyone hear “shubble”
no 100% i swear i hear it
Yeah I do.
buddy did NOT say that 😭
Wait…. I fucking heard it dude wtf!?! I think this song really is about the allegations now….
OMG UR RIGHT????
Honestly i don't really care what Wilbur did and i still keep listening to his music. To be honest even tho yes he did tho some pretty terrible things, it seems that in today's era people are not as forgiving as they once were. Wilbur took accountability for it immediately and has been undergoing therapy for years, people can change, its not because one person does something bad that they'll always be like this. So i think that even tho Wilbur did some pretty messed up shit, we should take the time to understand and potentially forgive him.
People Can Change
People Will Change
Will Will Change (yes i made it confusing for the sake of being funny)
@@Wilbur_Support_Squad YES
GUYS I MISSED YOU SO MUCH
I’ll promise you, I look good when I’m sober!!!!!
Yass
ABABABABABABBABAB IM ADDICTED TO THIS SONG ‼️‼️‼️💥💥💥
TELL ME WHAT HAVE U GOT, WHEN U GAVE IT ALL AWAY !!!! X3
@@Ell1Pawzzz omg a therian :0/pos (im a therian >:D)
@@wilthegoogoobie me too!!!!
i felt like i was doing something wrong watching this
His professional and personal lives are not linked, you don’t have to condone the mistakes he’s made and write him and his work off.
FRRR SAME
askin the same question to myself too, if i can still appreciate the art and just ignore the artist lol
Yeah I'm really trying to decide how to go from here
ok
Please don't bite me
POV: you're unoriginal and unfunny 🤡
and PS... she literally admitted on stream she was lying, maybe research the topic before debating!
@@krlswrld Simp Alert Simp Alert lmao