Damper used was Showa N1 (essentially the Mugen N1), but valved to Spoon specs. Spring rates vary depending on track. To best of my knowledge, they ranged from F22/R18 to F26/R22
He is blipping the gas to revmatch the downshifts. The technique is called 'heel and toe', the idea is to brake and downshift with revmatching all at the same time. Revmatching prevents the jerkiness when downshifting normally. If you drive a manual car you'll know what it all means :)
It was a technique derived to drive manual cars of old that did not have transmissions as advanced as we have today. I believe truckers still double clutch, but don't quote me on that.
@DSHanska And if you`re racing against the clock and you just need to brake a little, left foot braking saves time compared to taking your foot off the gas, pressing the brake pedal, and then giving it full throttle again.
even though I have not heard of double declutch I also want to add that double clutch downshift can also be useful for modern vehicles to achieve a smooth downshift I personally use it for everyday driving to achieve a smooth ride but the wear on the synchro will be negligible due to modern technology Even though it is not nesccary to protect the syncros anymore it sure gives a smooth downshift :} even though I don't use it at the tracks though, single clutch heel toe will do just fine.
he's most likely running spoon 4pot brakes with 2 piece rotors. when you run really huge brakes u tend to get pad knock back its when the rotor distorts due to hard cornering and angles in the caliper pushing the pistons back into the caliper so theres space between the rotor and pad. when he taps the brakes the pistons move back into position so the first tape on the brakes arn't smushy like when u do ur brakes for the first time
i'm fully aware of the difference & purpose of both techniques hence why i said you would only need to double clutch in a car with an unsynchronised gear box, it was used to prevent damage to gear system. all modern manual transmissions are synchronised (have synchro's) so the technique is not necessary & rarely used except in some large trucks. yes heel toe is rev matching a racing technique, matching the engine speed to speed of wheels when clutch is depressed.
Double clutching in the modern world isn't a sin...per se; undoubtely it IS "pointless" in the world of modern racing, but it does not hurt to practice it driving daily to save what precious synchrotic tranny material you'd already have for say...a day out on the track. I'm glad someone actually posted a question asking the merits of driving techniques rather than bashing old fashioned driving styles that were significant before any of us were even born...
trust me, one degree of toe can make a huge difference. But you can't put more than two degrees, to much running resistance. the hasport integra can run the laguna seca in '1"35 (2006) then they put the toe out by 1.4 degrees... they got a '1"33, same tires, motor, etc. If spoon tuned the four door, it would be another second faster.
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i think you'll find double clutch & double declutch are both correct terms. you would only ever need to double clutch in a car/truck that has an unsynchronised gearbox.
ya, same here. IDK to me jus the overall look of the dc2 is jus better imo than the dc5. At first i didnt like the dc5 at all, but it grew on me. Regardless to me it will never look as good as a dc2 though.
That is not the point; evlgtr was implying they are 2 completely separate technique however double clutch includes a rev match. If you were to actually call it rev match it be called SINGLE CLUTCH REV MATCH while the full name for double clutch would be double clutch rev match. The rev match you are referring to is single clutch rev match.
none of you guys know what you're talking about in terms of shifting techniques. there's no such thing as double 'de-clutching' its double clutching and that is to save the transmission by shifting into neutral and releasing the clutch in between any shift. Hattori is utilizing heel and toe which is not similar to double clutch because it is a racing technique used to brake and rev-match the downshift so balance and speed are maintained.
you never drived a race car..he does that to pump the oil a bit into the brake tube so when he will do the braking the brake pedal brake immediatelly and dont go wide. (sorry for my english).
if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that heel toe & double clutch downshift are similar/related techniques in the respect of achieving the same result, optimal engine RPM when down shifting, least amount of wear to drivetrain
What specs did you refer to? Did you know that in pro racing, alignment settings, shock settings, spring rates, aerodynamics, sometimes even gear ratios are track specific? That's the whole reason why they have days of "test and tune" before any major race weekend. By saying "oh it should run 1 more degree of toe and it would be 3-sec faster" without any info on track, tire temperature, driver feedback, etc. is just... hmmm... idiotic.
wtf are you talking about..? this is a car racing video bird.. videos for the national spelling championship can be found on the other side of youtube.
same shit, ur is just in detailed. Novices wont remember that, maybe thats how youve been told when u were 15. I was taught by feeling the revs when i was 14, Straight forward & none of that wax on wax off bullshit. lol
Yeah you stated the difference already, You told me how to double clutch and i told you a better way which is rev-matching. The only difference is how fucking slow YOUR method is (Double clutching) and mines faster (rev-matching).....where you dont need to think about each of ur steps and just do it simultaneously. like i said go back to driving school. LOL
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you gotta love spoon's amazing tuning. the high revs on this integra sound like music to my ears.
Damper used was Showa N1 (essentially the Mugen N1), but valved to Spoon specs. Spring rates vary depending on track. To best of my knowledge, they ranged from F22/R18 to F26/R22
this is the fastest type R i have seen here so far... its incredible the acceleration on it, great shifting, its a beauty.......
wow i got chills down my spine love honda integra for life
He is blipping the gas to revmatch the downshifts. The technique is called 'heel and toe', the idea is to brake and downshift with revmatching all at the same time. Revmatching prevents the jerkiness when downshifting normally. If you drive a manual car you'll know what it all means :)
wow the shifts into 3rd and 4th are incredible
It was a technique derived to drive manual cars of old that did not have transmissions as advanced as we have today. I believe truckers still double clutch, but don't quote me on that.
Exactly right. "Rev-matching" is the perfect word
@DSHanska And if you`re racing against the clock and you just need to brake a little, left foot braking saves time compared to taking your foot off the gas, pressing the brake pedal, and then giving it full throttle again.
even though I have not heard of double declutch I also want to add that double clutch downshift can also be useful for modern vehicles to achieve a smooth downshift I personally use it for everyday driving to achieve a smooth ride but the wear on the synchro will be negligible due to modern technology Even though it is not nesccary to protect the syncros anymore it sure gives a smooth downshift :} even though I don't use it at the tracks though, single clutch heel toe will do just fine.
Brakes are good too, this is amazing
yea that is rev matching not required for daily driving but gives a smoother ride.
he's most likely running spoon 4pot brakes with 2 piece rotors. when you run really huge brakes u tend to get pad knock back its when the rotor distorts due to hard cornering and angles in the caliper pushing the pistons back into the caliper so theres space between the rotor and pad. when he taps the brakes the pistons move back into position so the first tape on the brakes arn't smushy like when u do ur brakes for the first time
i'm fully aware of the difference & purpose of both techniques hence why i said you would only need to double clutch in a car with an unsynchronised gear box, it was used to prevent damage to gear system. all modern manual transmissions are synchronised (have synchro's) so the technique is not necessary & rarely used except in some large trucks. yes heel toe is rev matching a racing technique, matching the engine speed to speed of wheels when clutch is depressed.
Gotta love Suzuka, he's actually able to go through the gears unlike Tsukuba.
This is an AMAZING car!!
The real reason to tap the brakes before entering the corner is to get the pressure in the cylinder up so the brakes will be there right away.
Awesome Driving SKILLS...
Dyno'd 180 at the wheel. Kinda on low side. Motor burns a lil oil. It's getting rebuilt during this offseason.
Double clutching in the modern world isn't a sin...per se; undoubtely it IS "pointless" in the world of modern racing, but it does not hurt to practice it driving daily to save what precious synchrotic tranny material you'd already have for say...a day out on the track. I'm glad someone actually posted a question asking the merits of driving techniques rather than bashing old fashioned driving styles that were significant before any of us were even born...
If anyone noticed this track is also on the Gran Turismo game as well and nice teg!
trust me, one degree of toe can make a huge difference. But you can't put more than two degrees, to much running resistance. the hasport integra can run the laguna seca in '1"35 (2006) then they put the toe out by 1.4 degrees... they got a '1"33, same tires, motor, etc. If spoon tuned the four door, it would be another second faster.
thats some dirty foot work
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that's good!! he does sound like Dracula!
He taps the brakes as a "brake check", especially on the long straights when speed is built up.
Yeah i reckon circuit is a lot more involved than blasting down a a 1/4 mile straight line.
ah its so beautiful im weeping..
@Theodor5150 Dude. What. With a fwd left foot braking in a corner makes the rear break out reducing understeer, for one.
Nice heel toe action.
i think you'll find double clutch & double declutch are both correct terms. you would only ever need to double clutch in a car/truck that has an unsynchronised gearbox.
@hondacivicacura The EJ EX is not bad if modified right either...
he taps the gas so that it matches the rev when he engages into the gear -- match reving!!!
ya, same here. IDK to me jus the overall look of the dc2 is jus better imo than the dc5. At first i didnt like the dc5 at all, but it grew on me. Regardless to me it will never look as good as a dc2 though.
i use the same downshift method as this guy its like rev matching for downshifting
why does he push all three pedals to shift down for the corners? *honest question*
Whats Double clutching suppose to do? I mean
i know the rev matching thingy. Im just confused why people Double clutch?
what volumne or video is this from?
Yeah, the whole time I was watching this vid I was like "OK now there's a turn right here... and here" hahaha it's exactly the same set up.
pmsl, you guy's are hilarious!!!
That is not the point; evlgtr was implying they are 2 completely separate technique however double clutch includes a rev match. If you were to actually call it rev match it be called SINGLE CLUTCH REV MATCH
while the full name for double clutch would be double clutch rev match.
The rev match you are referring to is single clutch rev match.
what kind of differential is in this car?
none of you guys know what you're talking about in terms of shifting techniques. there's no such thing as double 'de-clutching' its double clutching and that is to save the transmission by shifting into neutral and releasing the clutch in between any shift. Hattori is utilizing heel and toe which is not similar to double clutch because it is a racing technique used to brake and rev-match the downshift so balance and speed are maintained.
spoon type r, wow!!!
you never drived a race car..he does that to pump the oil a bit into the brake tube so when he will do the braking the brake pedal brake immediatelly and dont go wide. (sorry for my english).
Suzuka Circuit right?
if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that heel toe & double clutch downshift are similar/related techniques
in the respect of achieving the same result, optimal engine RPM when down shifting, least amount of wear to drivetrain
its because its a locked diff at the front
thats one big ass wing
i like his tigers :)
i think the dc2 is better in handling, but slower in str8 speed. i seen a video on here where the dc2 beat the dc5 on a track.
@hotpapilatino253 unless your home is at Suzuka raceway, japan....
che macchinaaaaaaa!!!!....io a possiedooooooo!!! ahuhauhaua
freaking guy sounds like Dracula
what he is doing is clutch kicking so he can rev match. search for some videos of clutch kicking and they will tell you more
Integra is good
What specs did you refer to? Did you know that in pro racing, alignment settings, shock settings, spring rates, aerodynamics, sometimes even gear ratios are track specific? That's the whole reason why they have days of "test and tune" before any major race weekend. By saying "oh it should run 1 more degree of toe and it would be 3-sec faster" without any info on track, tire temperature, driver feedback, etc. is just... hmmm... idiotic.
I wanna drive it.
they get manual steering racks.
most settings are simple ones that aren't track specific, at least not for this series
Its called heel-n-toe
You do know you left out rev matching which is the main point.
so theres not alot of stoping powere but enough...
thatsz crazy i kno what track hes on
@kyleisreallycool , Loeb would approve ... ask him ! lol
you already know
the car is in GT4...XD I bought it to drive
@HistoryHmoobGuy ASIAN MEN you mean.
@zomgbbqwth sooo wat we talking bout here lol
send me that transmission for nxt xmas. kthnx
too keep the brakes warm ;] hahaha idk
wtf are you talking about..?
this is a car racing video bird.. videos for the national spelling championship can be found on the other side of youtube.
also I come to realize you probably don't even drive a 5 speed.. your Mom's mini van is an automatic you know that right?
Long form - a front wheel, front engine car.
Short form - an FF (two fucking fs) car.
What's so hard to understand?
Kids don't try this @ home...
@hotpapilatino253 but outside :}
same shit, ur is just in detailed.
Novices wont remember that, maybe thats how youve been told when u were 15. I was taught by feeling the revs when i was 14, Straight forward & none of that wax on wax off bullshit. lol
@zomgbbqwth
A (F)ront wheel, (F)ront engine car...
hahahahahaha definitely the stupidest comment i've seen in a while
*sigh*...another waste of space in an already overpopulated world...
Yeah you stated the difference already, You told me how to double clutch and i told you a better way which is rev-matching.
The only difference is how fucking slow YOUR method is (Double clutching) and mines faster (rev-matching).....where you dont need to think about each of ur steps and just do it simultaneously.
like i said go back to driving school. LOL