Fletcher Destroys Out-of-Tune Trombone Kid | Whiplash (2014) | 1080p HD
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Fletcher berates one of his pupils for being out of tune. Or maybe just for being fat.
Awarded for:
Best Supporting Actor, J.K. Simmons
Best Film Editing, Tom Cross
Best Sound Editing, Craig Mann, Ben Wilkins, and Thomas Curley
Nominated for:
Best Picture, Whiplash
Best Adapted Screenplay, Damien Chazelle
It's a pretty new movie so I couldn't find any theses on it. :(
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Director: Damien Chazelle
Actors:
Miles Teller as Andrew Neiman
J. K. Simmons as Terence Fletcher
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I'm convinced that Fletcher abused his parents, rather than the other way around.
“Are you gonna make me eggs, or bacon...or are you gonna be ON MY FUCKING TIME!”
"Not quite my Omelette"
"Did you overcooked my eggs?"
"...Yes."
*THEN WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU SAY SO???*
@Dread StarZ nah Gordon Rampsey is actually nice in real life. His anger on screen is just an act
"You are rushing the pancake flipping. Not my fucking tempo!"
The way jk Simmons goes from harsh but fair teacher to insane abusive presence is such an impressive feat of acting
Yeah nothing wrong with being a little tough on your students, but holy shit that abusive side of him was insane.
@rgkong8783 Yes. Then, he could be charming at times. It must be how he kept his job for so long.
My man is GREAT at playing faux affably evil characters
Just ignore the writing then?
His acting here is brilliant, he won lots of awards just for this role, including the Oscar
“Because your mind’s on a happy meal instead of on pitch.”
Not only did he call him fat, he called him a child.
Didn’t even realize lmao
Double Combo!
@@ozzymidence7016nah my brother did not just say that 💀
Damn, that was harsh.
What's more, Fletcher thinks that Metz has pooped his pants. "There is no fucking Mars bar down there.", Fletcher said.
-Do you think you're out of tune?
-Yes
-Pack your things get out of my building.
“But sir, I-“
You’re *FIRED*
DarkSideoftheForce You know we’re gonna have to print a retraction now.
You're unfired.
@@theKK_spideyfans haven't printed a retraction in 20 years!
@Steve Daxon faker fired
I love how when there all playing, everybody’s really into it, and they all, even fletcher to an extent seem to be enjoying themselves, but as soon as fletcher mentions someone being out of tune, literally everybody is absolutely terrified and no one seems like they want to be there
Except Neiman (just like any newcomers) because he doesn't know Fletcher's real colors yet until he yelled at Metz.
Even when fletcher came in everybody immediately stood up straight as an arrow and went completely silent, really shows you how he both physically and mentally trains his students
See, I didn't get that. Lol the MOMENT Fletcher steps in they all immediately stop having fun and go right into playing mode. Super concentrated and almost robotic, which I would be too if even a slight mistake would have him come down on you like a literal and figurative ton of bricks. 😂
This scene is hilarious!
“GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE METZ STUPID FAT FUCK! YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE ABORTED YOU! . . . But ERIKSON you were the one actually screwing up, not him.”
Mr clean, for the toughest of stains
Neo polly sfj
Dead.
Neo polly 😂😂😂
Mr. Clean, if he had anger issues....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is there anything J.K. Simmons CAN'T do?
He can't catch Spider-Man, that's what.
Since spider man doesn't exist and I'm sure he can catch a spider, there you have it!
Yea.... But when he does catch Spider-Man he's going to fuck him like a pig.....
he can't get photos of spiderman
He also can't take his blood pressure medicine XD
Lorox Makevids EXTRA he couldn't kick Michael Cera's ass when he got Juno pregnant.
Can't imagine having an instructor this strict. Probably would've gone insane.
I admit I got a coach like this, but not with music. With boxing, its fucking brutal, but I mean I put up with it cause of how bad I want it. Shit happens I guess 😂
That m*therf*cker. I deliberately play out of tune then, when he asks if I think I'm playing out of tune, pretend I don't know then when he loses his sh*t, I straight knee him in the nuts and listen to his high pitched scream of pain....I won't tell him if his scream is out of tune or not, I'll just say: *_"Not my tempo, YOU get the f*ck outta here!"_*
Or you might have become the best in your craft.
@@earleaccount Most likely both ;)
@@hmartinspliff ah yes, the hubris of the inexperienced.
If you've ever been part of an orchestra...you know the feeling when the conductor asks you to play one by one to figure out who is playing out of tune. If people think this movie is exaggerated...you're wrong! Orchestra rehearsals have given me the greatest moments of anxiety in my life and made me so good at sight reading sheet music through sheer adrenaline rush from the pressure.
Jesus christ
LOL, this movie is still exaggerated as all hell. i do get the pressure to get it right but at no music school you will find a teacher like this with methods like this.
figuring out one by one who's out of tune is just a normal process and most people have been through it at some point. it's not nice but it's not like you are going to get killed lol
I do believe the pressure is terrifying but it is absolutely exaggerated. I feel like if any teacher threw a chair at your head he'd be fired immediately lol
This film is a horror movie 🤧
That tiny little moment when the director asked everyone to pull out Whiplash and it was covered in notes, I knew I was in for something crazy, then when they stopped playing and the brass instruments immediately emptied their spit valves.....bone chilling
I love how the tension builds in this scene.
Right away everything feels off and it shows in everyone's demeanor, too tense and anxious.
The movie lets you fester and wonder what's really wrong and what everyone is afraid of with Fletcher.
Absolutely love this scene
Specially at 0:12. Its one thing to be focused, but the bass player is scared.
I think the scarier part is how he slowly but surely narrowed it down
@@solinvictus4367 the scarier part is that any decent band director would know who immediately. Source: been on both sides of that conversation...just in a much nicer way.
Actually, he destroyed Fat Kid. Out-of-Tune Trombone Kid got a pretty easy time.
I wonder what he did after the scene...did he quit music or gave it another try???
“But he didn’t know, and that’s bad enough. But being out of tune is STILL just as bad! GET OUT!!”
@@CosbyTheCaterpillar I wonder if he did know, but was too intimidated to say so.
Ladco77 Most likely, but who knows what if he and Fletcher teamed up when nobody was around so he deliberately played out of tune just so he could kick Metz out. Maybe he even foreshadowed this when he was talking about playing deliberately out of tune and sabotaging his band. [MIND BLOWING]
@@CosbyTheCaterpillar Has a good chance. To not have cleared the water valve when he had a chance to... That would have made his tuning sharp.
As a trombone player who is practically tone deaf, this is all too true.
No mars bars for you
Tell me about it
TheMartianDirector then train your ears, unless you have amusia - then you have no hope.
If you're practically tone deaf, how can you play anything but Bbs and Fs in tune?
And a C and D if you've got the range, I guess.
crackpotfox us Tbones got a tuning slide(main slide), so if someone says we're sharp, we pull out and if flat, in.
Well, what if Erickson also didn't know that he was out of tune?
gsixuwlj that's what I was asking myself too
Nigel Frank Lol Elmer isn't his real name, Elmer Fudd is a cartoon character, Fletcher was just making fun of him, his name is Mets.
He probably knew, but was affraid to say so...the fat kid should've stand his ground
he was just looking for a reason to get rid of fatty. he'd rather not have someone in his band of weak constitution. otherwise, he would have kicked out Erickson for not speaking up when he had the chance.
Then they're fucked! Lol
0:55 If Rami's Spider-Man was R-rated.
Dude he was Barker
@Benda Vore give me pizza
@Benda Vore because I Missed The Part Where That's My Problem
3:55 When the girl you liked back in HS tells you she had a crush on you too
😅😅😅
Good one 👍
Facts
But if you never found out then you must have not said anything either and are just as guilty
Dammit you got me off guard. I actually jumped from my seat.
i love that little 'ew' look andrew has when he sees the trumpet empty his spit valve. my exact reaction when i first joined a concert band.
Thank god my band had buckets.
Be nice to us Brass, or we'll pull out a tuning slide and flick the contents over the Reeds....
@@cooperchance7720 what are spit valve?
Lol that was my first reaction too
@@skillex8376 instruments that require your mouth to play will obviously have saliva in them and colder temperatures also accumulates more water, so the spit valve empties all of that so that no water blocks the sound out or makes the instrument sound like it's rapid firing.
3:55 When you ask your girlfriend what she wants to eat but she tells you to choose, so you take her to Chili's but then she tells you later that she wanted Chinese.
We girls just don't want to seem too confrontational or selfish. :}
@@Whimsy3692 then why you bring that you wanted chinese afterwards ??
Chili’s. Classy.
Without checking the time you put up, I can already tell that it's when fletcher says "Then why the fuck didn't you say so?!"
@@Whimsy3692 3:55 if you didn't want to seem confrontational
Fun fact: Many of the band members were real musicians or music students, and Damien Chazelle tried to capture their expressions of fear and anxiety when they were pressed by Simmons.
And JK Simmons has said that many of them weren't given scripts they were just there because they could play. So many of them had no idea what Fletcher was going to do or how far he would go so a lot of reactions are genuine.
Wow
I love how people rationalize fletchers sociopathic abuse I don’t understand how people believe this hypocrite of a character is somehow not completely in the wrong
It's crazy man
Yeah he is in the wrong alot of times but not in this scene.
The point is that HE doesn't think he's in the wrong. He thinks what he's doing is pushing people to greatness and weeding out those who are too weak . If you quit music or stop playing just because he discouraged you....then you were never going to be great and he saved you the time. But his methods are fucking nuts. The writer/director said the ending is happy cuz he got his teacher's approval and proved himself....but also the complete opposite because of what that actually means. He's probably going to die by 30.
At the level that fletcher and the band are at, the conductor kinda needs to be tough with people. As a person who played at a very high level at one point, the no nonsense attitude is almost necessary. However the chair throwing and some of the insults are just hyperbole.
@@MANTHELEXUS Yeah, no. You can achieve far higher levels of musicianship without dealing with toxic competitiveness. Someone like Muhammad Suicmez or Tosin Abasi or Mario Duplantier could play absolute circles around someone like Fletcher, all from practicing in a garage
“Tell me it’s not you, Elmer Fudd.”
Meanwhile, homie accusing lookin like he hunts wabbits with a double barrel shotgun.
Nailed it. Then he fails to eject the out-of-tune “player.” This guy is all backwards, but enthralling.
Looking like a double wide surprise.
Would be great to have JK Simmons and Gordon Ramsay face off
Make R. Lee Ermey the referee
Ramsey would win flecther is a fucktard full of insucuritys
It would be great for the two to switch jobs!
And Simon Cowell as commentator
Simon Rano or fuse.
"This is your last chance........and there it went."
Honestly.
"Matz wasn't out of tune, you were Erikson. But he didn't know and that's bad enough."
Wait, Erikson didn't know he was out of tune either, so why does he get a free pass? If he did know, THEN WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T HE SAY SO?!!!!!
Good point
He probably knew, but was affraid to say so...the fat kid should've stand his ground
1717Dave Fletcher didn't like the kid he chose to chew out, so he used this opportunity as a way to get rid of him.
He did know. We see him eject some shit out of his instrument...
It's a spit valve, all brass players use it in between breaks of playing or your spit will fill up.
0:54 That roast was so clean!
Hes not thinking about it, its just ingrained into himself
this scene showed that fletcher didnt actually care about creating the ''perfect'' band as much as he cared about the feeling of power that humiliating others gives him
it actually proves that you can't read a scene and don't know nothing about anything😂
No, he cared about creating the perfect band, that's why he was so hard on them. Did you even watch the movie?
@@bigbrotherishere What a good way to decribe yourself bigbrother lol
@@Konig141Just because you watch the movie doesn't mean you understand 100% which you clearly don't. It's much deeper than you think. Fletcher is a sociopathic asshat who should've been murdered by a student who reached the breaking point a long long time ago.
I think Fletcher was just looking for any excuse to get rid of this guy
I'm actually crying. This is my worst nightmare.
Advice from an old man- do not tolerate this shit from a teacher, or a boss. Never. Get up, walk out, move on. Don't talk back, don't fight back, LEAVE. Do not return. Look for whatever it was you were seeking elsewhere. The film attempts to portray the Simmons character as attempting to toughen his students, and to instill excellence in them. I call bullshit on that. He was exercising sadistic dominance over his students for the simple pleasure that it gave him. A good leader never needs to bully his subordinates, and a good teacher simply does not need to terrorize his students.
Unless you're in the Marine Corps. Then, you're shit outta luck.
I don't know if the film is trying to portray simmons just that way the film also goes against his ideas as well which really leaves it up to the audience on what he is.
easier said than done, "old man". music is a highly competitive field and kids have to learn to expect perfection from themselves as well as their fellows. even if the teacher got his kicks from this, it still is necessary to make a musician who can hold a job, and if the ones who can't end up quitting, better for them to not waste any more time too.
Nick Cipollone why not talk back and fight back? I'd at least scare the shit out of him before I walked out (unless he was dumb enough to throw a punch and then he's going to the ER)
Not even that tough but 200lbs and 30 vs his old ass= I win
Actually, at the end of the film you see his true colours when he deliberately tries to sabotage Miles. He isn't ever portrayed as a good person, which is why he ended up being fired.
What band kids think they go through.
xinferis chief Lol
xinferis chief wellll
xinferis chief LOL
xinferis chief I'm Upset
Marvin Rodriguez SAY IT LOUDER!
Fun story, a guy who I knew was in a band like this and played guitar. He was heavier set, but tall. Apparently he played the wrong chord, in one beat, during the chorus, and instead of the teacher correcting him, they just started screaming and calling him retarded and fat. Fun stuff.
He got up, walked out, walked INTO the teachers classroom, and put his foot through the neck of the teachers personal electric bass guitar.
Teacher blamed my class (The first class in the morning), and had us all stand outside in the pissing rain for an hour because no one would tell him who did it. (Mainly because very few of us knew)
I am happy to report that teacher no longer works for my old school, as he was removed for overwhelming complaints.
Edit: Had to fix some spelling errors. Sorry!
Awesome
The guitarist's got his revenge. Did anything happen to him afterwards?
@@Torturephile No idea.Three of us total knew about it, as far as I know, and all three of us couldn't give even the slightest of shits - the teacher was borderline pedophilic at times, touching young girls lower backs when he spoke to them and shit - real creepy, got a lot of reports.
He did it afterschool, during an afterschool club thing - which is why the teacher blamed the morning class for it (Apparently he also just randomly left his guitar in his unlocked classroom overnight??) so there wasn't really anything tying him to doing it.
That kids a legend
HOLY BASSED
3:36
"Actually, there is a Mars Bar. I gotta keep them handy. I have this low-blood sugar thing."
I think Fletcher would of been more angry if that happened
I understood that reference.
@@heyreeen Weird Al Gets WHIPLASHED from Collegehumor, right?
No candy in the band room.
3:55
Remember that a yeller-abuser is not tough by any stretch. They just have the perfect bully's instinct to know who won't fight back (especially when they have some power over the person, such as their future as a musician), and yell abuse only at those people. They know how to pick their victims. That is all there is to it. You won't catch them acting tough with someone who won't take such treatment, particularly someone physically more commanding than them.
yup, nothing but predators who prey on those weaker than themselves
To be fair J.K. Simmons is pretty jacked here
Hence why a lot of parents that scream their heads off at their kids pull back when they enter their teenage years, even if there's still a need for "discipline". They fully expect an angry, rebellious boy to be able to wipe the floor with them.
It's humiliating moments like this that made me quit honor band in high school. As a 2nd-to-last chair trombone, I got yelled at in front of everybody a few more times than I'd like. This eventually made me not give a shit about band enough to quit before marching season. Fortunately, this didn't end my passion for music, so I still like to play guitar and some piano, occasionally.
Bandic00t_ I'm sorry to hear that, in fact the same thing happened to the first chair trombone in my high school band. Whenever his section made a mistake, my band director would only scold him. He's humiliated him to the point of leaving a football game that we were playing at because our first chair didn't have the flip folder for the first trombone part. It was a bit heartbreaking to watch our first trombone try to explain to somebody who was too mad to even listen. He's a really talented trombone player. We're entering our first year of college and he's not joining his college's band because of his experiences with our band director.
Heh, you got discouraged!
Well.. just as long as you precious feelings aren't hurt i suppose...
There's a difference between pushing people past their limit and driving them to suicide, and that's exactly what Fletcher did. To defend his methods is to defend a bully.
Four years in high school and my final year I make it into my honors band but that took 3 years of getting yelled at, called out, humiliated that made me try harder not quit all I wanted to do was get better so I could prove him wrong instead you proved your director right by getting out
Do teachers/directors really behave like this? What the hell. I thought you'd have a band to have fun. Fuck mistakes. If it happened to me, I would just say he's a real asshole and then leave.
Am I the only one who realizes how impossible this guy was? Sometimes his actions demand that you listen to him, fear him and obey him and in this scene, he's implying that you should also have the guts to stand up to him and tell him he's wrong if you think he's wrong. I mean, if I was that fat kid, I would probably agree with him that I am out of tune even if I knew I wasn't because he's clearly an egomaniac and wants to hear that he's right.
He didn't say that fatty was out of tune, he simply asked him. And he couldn't even just say what he knew, that's bad enough.
@@bimmeronline No it isn't. Like I said, the way he screams his head off scares students to admit they're wrong even if they clearly know they're right. He hates people who talk back to him and also expects fatty to talk back to him in this scene. The character is just impossible to please.
@@hittingyouoverthehead Disagree. What about the guy who lost the folder, despite losing the folder he admitted it and was clear he can't play the instrument, he wasn't kicked off the team.
The guy who was actually out of tune, he corrected himself quickly before the last 'test' before fatty started being grilled. Which is why he was saved, this guy just had to let out his anger on an innocent guy, if the guy stood up for himself and said "yes Im in tune" he might have survived.
@@bimmeronline You know what, screw you and screw this movie. I can debate for hours on why you're wrong but I'm not gonna bother because I hated this movie and this scene and this character. So yeah, you can consider yourself having won this or whatever. Goodbye.
@@hittingyouoverthehead
I do think you are right in the fact that the guy was impossible. (Because perfection is impossible).
However I disagree with your assessment that all he wanted was to feed his ego, and bully people.
Ok the contrary, there very much was a logic to his doing. He had a clear goal, and his actions, logically, lead to that goal. So there in fact was a right way to act around him, he didn’t indiscriminately attack people.
That is part pf the point of the movie:
Fletcher’s method ended up working. Neyman became or was molded into one of the greats.
However the movie asks, at what cost? He destroyed his relationship with his girlfriend, became resentful, hurt himself, basically has no life outside of music, and it is implied that his relationship with his father too was destroyed (though not only).
If you interpret the movie as Fletcher being a pyschopathic asshole who does what he does for the kick of it, the whole message doesn’t make sense.
Fletcher wasn’t in on it to see people hurt and give up. He hurt people because he believed he would eventually get the right person which could be hurt and use this to mold him into what he wanted.
The movie at the end asks, implicitly, was it worth it?
I know it's just acting but I feel like saying that trombone players are literally playing with a tuning slide and not valves.
While this is correct, wouldn't you think that someone at such a professional level as these musicians should at least know how to stay in tune?
That's what makes it even worse. You know where the slide needs to be for you in tune or (even though he's not playing with one) whether you should use the trigger on an F attachment. He's either in 3rd or 4th position which is easy to hit because you judge by the bell or arm extension. All Fletcher wanted him to say was I wasn't me. Remember he starts by saying, "Tell me it isn't you, Elmer Fudd."
Joe D exactly, he either didn't know or hes too much of a sissy to say, "im in tune". Either way he doesnt belong in an elite band like this where mistakes cannot exist.
There aren't "elite bands like this". Anyone with musical training and acumen can pick out errors in performances by the most accomplished musicians in the world. As soon as you start to define the "best" musicians as the ones who don't make a single mistake, you've furthered the effort to turn humans into machines. Music isn't about flawless machines making flawless noises.
Derek Snyder indeed, I've been a musician for 9 years and while I'm definitely no master, my ear has become sensitive to pitch and time. I hear mistakes even on the radio where it would have thought to been edited out
"There's no f-ing Mars bar down there, what are you looking at? Look up here, look at me."
Actually there is a Mars bar down here…
Nice One
I don’t get it
@@lawdawgm2844 he's talking about his c*ck
@@lawdawgm2844 look up “Weird al yankovic whiplash”
@@lawdawgm2844
💩
3:55 When you and her flirt, you ask for her number but she says I have a bf
LMAO
LMAO :troll:
Fucking true as fucking fuck
Fletcher: now go and make yourself useful and get me some pictures of Spiderman!
J.K. Simmons : Professional confidence destroyer.
"Um teacher, I didn't understand anything you said."
3:55
Whats scary about this film is how realistic it is, even my most supportive and respectful music teachers and conductors ive had have still had these moments of intensity
As much as I love this movie I have a bit of a problem with this scene. Fletcher claims that there are two possible explanations for why no one would confess, either the person is deliberately sabotaging his band or is simply not knowing he is out of tune.
Now, Erickson was out of tune and didn’t confess, so he’s in one of those two categories by Fletcher’s logic, so why wasn’t he kicked out? Is Fletcher willing to give “deliberately” out-of-tune playing a pass? I would think not.
You can argue that Fletcher is just crazy but as a fictional character I think he should be logically consistent throughout.
It wasn't about music, it was about his methods of psychological abuse. He made up the whole thing to exert his dominance/authority and push the view that his perspective is reality: unquestionable and undebeatable thus enabling him more control over his victims. He's gaslighting them.
What the guy above me said, but also, Erickson now sees what happens when you don't know if you're out of tune or not. As a result, I doubt he'll be making that mistake again.
Fletcher eliminated a weak link while strengthening another one at the same time. Abusive or not, it was actually quite brilliant.
On the other hand, I don’t think it’s a logical failure. He’s abusive as all hell, but from my perspective I thought Erickson didn’t know he was out of tune either (why he didn’t say anything). So really, both players fit within that category, Fletcher just picked on one.
@@-Zer0Dark- not brilliant, it's mental abuse.
@@jaelsonnen5750 I believe he meant it was a brilliant way of conveying that abuse while being true to the character and the situation. As in brilliant writing
I love the film but I would like to say that for every Joe Jones throwing a discouraging cymbal there were probably 50 unreported people saying "Don't give up Charlie, hang in there man, you're great".
I think the end of the film reflects that notion. If Neiman didn't have support from his father, I doubt he would be able to go back up on that stage and play again.
I think Joe Jones probably wasn't trying to discourage Charlie in that infamous jam session. Quite frankly, Charlie was messing up the tune they were playing and he was kinda oblivious to it. Joe had to let him know in one way or another.
To be honest Jo Jonas did now throw the cymbal at him but he threw it on the ground.... he just did not like the style Charlie was playing
Fletcher also got that story wrong. Parker didn't go home and become a recluse after that incident like Andrew; he actually didn't touch an instrument for over three months. When he did start playing again, he approached jazz as an art form and not as a hardline competition to win.
@@collinparks6414 i think its how fletcher will twist his viewpoint to real life events in order to justify his methods. In practice, its the way HE would have wanted that story to pan out.
I like that this demonstrates that Fletcher terrorizes the entire band and not just the drummer. And it illustrates how quickly you can get fired.
Fletcher is truly evil. He instills fear in the hearts of striving musicians, and then destroys them.
1:01 can we just appreciate that they didn’t need to include this but it makes me laugh every time
Is he throwing up?
@@HalfTheFun_ No, he’s emptying out all the built up spit in the trombone. That’s why I’m so glad I’m a percussionist and don’t have to deal with that 😂
@@eyelesspulse1084 it’s just water. You empty the instrument every once and a while and that’s it.
It's actually a small detail, Erikson was the one out of tune and the out of tune player wasn't recognized until after he emptied his spit
@@ColinMroczko that is not true lol
Fletcher: Tell me it's not you, Elmer Fudd.
Metz: It's not me.
Fletcher: *Damn, thought he'd fall for it.*
Never thought the newspaper boss from Spiderman could play such an amazing role.
Bernardo Santos his name is j Jonah Jameson
Watch the show Oz.
Implying J Jonah Jameson is not the greatest character in the world
That performance from Spiderman is genius in itself. Most consider his portrayal as the most accurate page to screen portrayal in comic book existence. As good as other actors have been no one's even come close to the accuracy he's played J. Jonah Jameson.
Was it Peter Parker that killed himself from his abuse?
I had a conductor who stopped us like this often. she really pushed us hard. we spend over an hour on a 30 second bit. because one guy in the back row was just barely out of tune. but hey, we toured eastern Europe so it was worth it.
That sounds painful
This level of treatment is pretty inexcusable
@@TheCompleteMental that's why the op toured europe and not you.
@@deettee6794 well first off probably because I'm not a musician
@@TheCompleteMental Tbh you ppl are way too soft.
If that’s how mad he gets over being slightly off-key, imagine how enraged he’d become if he doesn’t get pictures of Spider-Man
0:54 The most excellent and effective way to tell your student his mistake and how to improve
Hahahaha 😂
"He didnt know. And thats bad enough"
the editing is so fast-paced and anxiety-inducing
You could say it gives you...
Whiplash?
Ok I’ll leave
@@scamlikely2008 no, stay
How so?
I feel like this a modern day version of Full Metal Jacket
YES
Fun fact: The other actors aren’t acting. They’re genuinely afraid of J.K. Simmons
Well, to be fair, he also happens to be a fuckin' alien..
It's not that the guy didn't know if he was out of tune, its that he was the most afraid of Fletcher. He said yes because he was afraid of saying no. He was the easiest target
He smelled his weakness
The kid was kicked out because even though he was playing in-tune, he couldn't stand up for himself by saying firmly that he was (although it was out of fear)
At least he didn't tie the horn around his head like his character on Spongebob did. I thinking both of his victims are like: Oh man, that conductor's brutal.
Metz: whoever's the owner of the white sedan, you left your lights on
josh WOOOOOOO-WAAAAAAAAA-OOOOOO(Patrick playing)
Stephanie Evjen 123rd like
A few minutes that transform a band rehearsal into an un-settling, borderline psychological horror show, full of tension and discomfort, as I'm sure many musicians can testify. An absolute must see movie.
So just to prove a point, he lost a competent player, and kept the guy that was ACTUALLY out of tune... That seems stupid to me.
Indeed....he just picked a guy he didnt like for whatever reason and threw him out. Unfortunately guys like Fletcher do exist out there for real.
Kyle Frank To Fletcher, he probably *was* the incompetent one.
He'll catch the guy out of tune if he can't pick it up in the next minute, and everyone will know why.
The other guy couldn't tell if he was in tune or not. It's "bad enough" to quote the guy. It means while the trombone guy can play, and play pretty convincingly, he's not doing it off his ear. If you play in enough bands for a long time it can affect your hearing, and it was throwing him off. It's subtle - most people would never notice.
To put it another way, he was a robot. Let's say there's a mistake, and there'll be mistakes in jazz, you have to be able to hear the mistake and change the tune to improvise - if he can't hear the tune and is just playing off the sheet like a robot, he can't fix the problem. For instance the guy being off-tune - he could've compensated by changing tune, but not without a proper ear and the will to do so.
To put it another way, the guy who was out of tune having had it pointed out is enough to fix his problem - but he realized there was a problem with the team. Diagnosing the problem turned into a 2 part thing - which is why he was nice to him for a second and said, "It's ok" when he was playing, because if he knew he was in tune, it would've been fine. He's just sniffing out a problem - he's being NASTY about it, but ultimately he's just making judgment calls.
You can fix an out of tune instrument, you can't fix a person.
Besides he's booting him out of his band, it's not the end of the guys life. He's a capable player, he'll find another gig - it's just not gonna be this one.
You could say he should have some heart, definitely, but his job's to figure the music out first. It sucks, but management suuuucks.
I know the importance of a band member being able to hear individual instruments, but it still stands that Fletcher kicked out a guy that hadn't goofed up, and kept an incompetent player who was only saved because he kept his mouth shut.
Indeed no matter what, he still didnt do anything about the guy who was actually playing out of tune and didnt say anything about it...so what happened to the whole "if you dont know you are out of tune, its bad enough", when Erikson who was out of the tune didnt get shout at or thrown out of the band? Double standards much?
"Parker, that is not your boyfriend's dick. Do not come early."
Holy fuck I forgot about that line.
That ripped me to shreds.
"Whoever it is, this is your last chance...and there it went." You can feel the temp drop and you're not even there.
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I was trying to listen to it... I was able to tell one was not playing the same series of notes, but it was in harmony... was that it? Or was there one legit out of tune?
captc502 Out of tune does not mean you are actually playing different notes, just that one or more of the notes is being played higher or lower pitched than it should be.
So there was one legit out of tune... bagh my ears are weak.
3:55 that’s scared the shit outta me when I first saw this
Me: “that sounds fine”
Fletcher: “it’s out of tune >:(”
Me: “it’s out of tune :|”
LOOOL NAH FR
Fletcher: it's out of tune
Me: you're out of tune
Peter Parker brings in new pictures.
JK Simmons: Not quite my picture.
Joe Bastianich is the real live version 😅😂
@@ParDiss-e4i there’s a connection
Oh my god 😂 lol
Simmons deserved his Oscar. His work in film and television is remarkable. I liked him on Law and Order as Dr. Skoda. Also on Oz. A great character actor!
"Tell me it's not u Elmer Fudd" - that killed me lol
Konzen13 I don’t get it
Kate Steventon He fat.
It's a miracle fletcher hadn't been killed by one of his students
Trombone : out of tune
Fletcher : so you've chosen...Death
Omni-Man when Mark is out of tune
Mark: I’d still have you…
Nolan: 3:54
As a son of two musicians, I know how abusive conductors and orchestra boards can be. I really can't root for JK Simmons character. Musicians should be treated with respect like anyone else.
You're not supposed to root for him in the first place
He should have stood up, said "full metal jacket" then sulked away.
Do you think youre out of tune?
- Yes
_So you have chosen death_
4:10 when you can't get pictures of spiderman.
Fletcher is the type of guy who would freakout if a picture mounted on his wall was off by 2 centimeters
Tell me it’s not you Elmer Fudd, this movie is brutal😂😂😂
His character is just so tense at everything even when he's being kind of nice and patient. He's like a box that you know has a bomb in it and you have to get it across a big room and if you don't move perfectly you risk setting it off.
I'm practically tone deaf, I think I would die if this guy was my instructor lmao
This is truly one of the greatest films of the 21st century. This scene is one of the many reasons as to why.
Fletcher says the word "sabotage" a few times, it's an interesting insight into his character
THINK, TROMBONE KID, THINK!
0:54 ;)
Your fired!
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Me when someone in the Fortnite festival doesn’t play Weezer perfectly:
4:35 this guy Erickson was a real prick just sitting there not admitting it was him.
He’s like the Gordon Ramsay of Music.
Little know fact: Simmons had no script, he ad libed the entire character
I miss when actors DGAF about triggering crybabies.
What's interesting is I caught a mistake that the character doesn't. at 1:14 there is a small 'tear'/botched notes, meaning that someone was mildy off tempo resulting in their notes to ever so slightly not line up with everyone else's. Pretty major mistake tbh.
I thought I heard that too
Spot on.
Got a feeling it was intentional, director wouldn't of let that detail into the film.
Nice catch you did. i didn't hear it till now that was good
Yep. Good ear.
3:55 JUMP SCARE!!!!!
Self respect is everything in these situations with savage teachers and conductors
Bro who let Mr Clean cook 💀💀
I’d imagine J.K Simmons didn’t even audition for the role. He had to have bullied his way on to it.
2:52 "He's here".
Sure he is there. He is Weird Al.
When drill sgts become big band instructors haha
I wonder if Fletcher has some sort of military background before he was an instructor at Schaeffer
I AM Joseph McCarthy except drill sgts aren't stupid like this guy
The editing in this is like music to my eyes! Well deserved oscar for this one! :)
This movie really makes me chuckle, as it just touches the tip of the iceberg of what I saw on Parris Island in Marine boot camp in '75. This scene reminds of the most brutally vicious and cruel thing I witnessed on Parris Island. First bear with me but I have to give some background for the story to make sense. First, when a platoon goes to chow, one recruit is left behind, it is called Firewatch. when the platoon returns you have to go to chow by yourself, but being you are talking Marine boot camp, you just can't stroll in and eat like a regular human being so you have to follow an intricate protocol as: When marching up to the chow hall there will be platoons standing at attention in platoon formation waiting to go in and eat. You have to run up to one of the DI's as fast as you can, lock up at attention and it your loudest voice scream "Sir private So and So requests permission to get on the end of your chow line SIR!!!!! If you do it perfectly and with proper esprit de corps the DI will turn around and give you the once over and take a few liberties to criticize you and your platoon and if you hold up he'll then wave his hand and say something like Flyaway maggot! You then run over and get in his formation and you eat with them and when you get outside you just march back to your barracks. if however you walk up and don't yell loud enough and don't hold up to their criticism then you will be in a bad place very quickly. So that is point one, next is the subject of fat recruits. In Marine boot back in the day the DI's hated them and called them Fatbodies. we had two in my platoon who were dropped in the first several days and sent to PCP (Physical conditioning platoon)...known as the Fatbody platoon. They were out by the rifle range and had their own clay track behind their barracks...as our DI's said, all those fat bastards do is eat salad and run. When we would do force marches out to that end of the island they'd always stop us there and laugh and mock them with "Look at the fatbodies run". We loved it because you quickly learn to despise any recruit that is a non hacker...so we also hated the fatbodies. Now to the story...Our platoon is at the rifle range for two weeks so we have moved into the rifle range barracks and are eating at the rifle range chow hall...which as i mentioned earlier is right beside the fatbody barracks. So we are waiting in line to eat all at attention in platoon formation and out of the corner of my eye I see a really fat recruit heading in our direction. as he gets closer it is clear he is a firewatch coming to eat by himself. He is half walking/half waddling/half jogging and headed for our cruelest DI...I know the way he is approaching is going to have him in trouble from the word go but for his sake I am hoping he really screams the correct words and shows all the moxy he's got. Nope, a really weak attempt that would have had a regular recruit in deep shit. Our DI verbally lays into him calling him every name in the book and focusing on him being a fatbody. The kid cracks and starts to snivel/whimper, which brings every DI from all the other platoons and they surround him and are just hurling withering verbal insults. They now have him standing just off to our right when our DI yells "329 (our platoon number), on my command I want you to chant 'you are obese", we all respond Aye Aye Sir. He then gives the Eyes Right command so we are all now looking at the recruit. Our DI then gives the command "Ready Chant!". At that and in perfect unity we all start chanting in Marine boot 2nd phase throaty voices " you are obese, you are obese, you are obese..." over and over for at least thirty seconds. then it is our turn to eat so the DI says "329 You are done, attention, forward march" and we go in and eat lunch with not a thought of what just happened. All I thought of was I was hungry and wanted to eat and sit down for a few minutes. As we marched inside the fatbody recruit, who had long ago cracked, was on the ground crying in a blubbery mass with the other DI's still harassing him. I suspect he was taken away and dropped/discharged that day, but i know for certain he was at minimum scarred for life.
Thank you for sharing this
3:35 “Well actually, there is a Mars bar. I gotta keep ‘em handy, I got this low blood sugar thing”
I wish I had a professor like Fletcher. My Jazz band sounded like ass but all the professor did was give us positive encouragement.
I would highly reconsider that wish, because your professor is sounds a lot better than Fletcher.
I love the detail of Fletcher's body taking up part of the shot when the camera is on Elmer Fudd, giving him this scary, looming presence
Trombone kid was not out-of-tune.
kushan shah we heard that
I'm referring to the title of this video.
kushan shah well clickbait titles are one of many bullshit ways of gaining success on RUclips by preying on the gullible and simple minded with the intention of getting likes and views because that's an increasingly common life goal these days for whatever stupid reason.
kushan shah I want you think about what you wrote. And analyze the stupidity on your text.
The fourth trombone was not out of tune, if you have a fourth trombone you have at least three others. Fletcher said it was Erickson, the second trombone, who was out tune.
So yes trombone kid was out of tune.
I love how you can see the relief on the woodwind players faces when they weren't out of tune
That poor kid was the Private Pyle to Fletcher's Sgt. Hartman.