This was perfect on paper... - Pwnage Stormbreaker
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
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Gaming mice have come a long way, and the next big innovations seem to be magnesium bodies and adjustable sensor positions. Pwnage is here with their new Stormbreaker mouse that has both a metal body and a moveable sensor all wrapped up in a sharp-looking design. Will David be impressed? Let's find out.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Have gaming mice peaked?
0:19 Unboxing
1:09 Design and hand feel impressions
6:05 Sponsor - Secretlab
6:28 Polling rate and Pwnage software
8:05 Feet feel and applying the grip tape
9:01 Gaming impressions and moving the sensor
10:25 Pricing and overall thoughts
11:31 Outro 
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EDIT Aug 15: We watched through all the raw footage from this shoot and it does appear that the protective plastic film WAS indeed still on the feet when David gave his initial impressions of the glide feel. We retried it after the fact and their PTFE feet do glide nicely (similar to a G Pro X Superlight with the extra PTFE cover installed in very rudimentary side by side testing). We've cut out the section of video regarding the glide issues as to not misrepresent the mouse.
*We deeply regret allowing this error to happen, and will be implementing process changes so similar issues are avoided in the future. Importantly, we apologize to for getting it wrong in the video, and we apologize for how we handled the communications that followed. We made mistakes during the investigation of the issue, and even made mistakes in our previous pinned comment. The video will remain up since the glide feel was not a significant contributor to David's conclusion about the mouse, but that shouldn't be taken as an indication that we're complacent. We will do better next time.*
Finally - and this doesn't reduce any culpability on our part - we do believe users of this product would benefit from the skate film being more visible so no customers make the same mistake as us.
Here's a photo of what the Pwnage Stormbreaker looks like with the plastic still on the feet: imgur.com/a/k0o5wSH
And a Logitech G Pro X Superlight with full cover plastic on the entire bottom of the mouse: imgur.com/a/MV22k8A
Thank you for your grace while we improve.
-JS
links dont work. and dont try to throw back blame at a company cause your team of tech people didnt even check the feet
And we use "tech" people very loosely with this group.
@@squish4369 I know being indignant is fun, but they explicitly called it feedback. It's a legitimate issue. Multiple people have said they didn't initially notice the plastic on their own mice, while other brands have had the same issue in the past.
First link doesn't work
@@squish4369fax
Quantity over quality. It really shows how little effort you put into these videos.
Not just that it's shameless that after the mistakes are pointed out they leave the video up, harming the reputation of the company they are reviewing because they don't want to hurt their video metrics, actual sellouts with no integrity, what happened to LTT ?
that's was not even a review - I am so disappointed....
@@cnnr5790 that's the worst part. they're doubling down instead of taking down their erroneous videos. Just cutting out portions like it never happened
Imagine how many videos got wrong data and wrong kind of reviews?
the entire point of this shortcircuit channel is quantity over quality. the person "unboxing" the product giving a recommendation when theyve only used the product for an hour. Comical and it leads to errors like these
It’s the company’s fault that they didn’t tell you to take the protective plastic off?
“Hey guys, my new phone sucks. It’s in this cardboard box and no one told me to open it!”
Thanks to Gamer Nexus, now , going forward I really have to take what comes out of LMG with a HUGE fucking grain of salt.
Same here bro
Same, I used to trust LMG.. but the GamersNexus video really changed my mind about the entirety of LMG. Funny enough I was planning on buying a few things from the LTT store but now I'm considering unsubscribing permanently and never giving LMG a chance again.
That's what you get pumping out 10 videos a day on 3 different channels.
Same, saw comments about the protective film and them defending it.... it just Hit me lol.
By the time I got to that part of the video, I was already hugely disappointed. The fact that this mouse review is still up, and not completely redone cemented my disappointment. I don't think I'll be watching anything related to LMG for a while, possibly ever. They had/have a responsibility and they fucked it.
Pro Tip: Take ur time and check whether there's any film on the feet before reviewing it 😉
Don't you know that costs hundreds of dollars, even up to $500! They don't have time for that, they have another 25 videos to pump out!
@@randomhero123 "But you know what doesn't cost us 500$ to do? This Segway to our sponsor 😀"
He already lost his neurons when random info on the internet made him question his own identity. That's the reason he couldn't comprehend protective films exist on mice.
lol its so embarrassing
@@randomhero123 "It's just not worth it because of the amount of videos we have to dish out to spend time QAing our own shit reviews"
Why is this video still up?
money
Dodgy company
Hey guys, maybe grab a prototype from them and sell it at auction too. That'd show em.
lol
but it's charity. if it's charity you can give other peoples belongings to others
it's not selling it's auctioning
What’s insane is when you auction and “donate” that money, it’s tax deductible. So LMG was directly benefiting from auctioning it.
@@again617….for charity.
Linus tech tips must have rebranded themselves as artesian builds
💀 nahhhh, ltt is bad but they cannot be artesian level bad….
*billet enters the chat*
oh wait….
The arrogance sure is on par with Artesian Builds.
"Ohhh, and there's the reroll!"
Best Comment! 🏆
Or merge with the Verge
Did he remove the protective film from the feet? They did use super clear film so it was hard to notice
Excellent attention to detail :P
To be fair, they completely went "hmm let's use the least noticeable protective film possible"
idk why companies do this. just use a non clear one on individual feet or the zowie route which is a film covering the whole bottom
yeah I saw on their official discord this reviewer did not remove the film its been confirmed, what a terrible review, its like this guy is way outside of his space in terms of current knowledge or something hes really way off base here.
@@egaming2023good thing it wasn't a review ;) but yes removing that plastic is annoying and hard. Caught me out before as well.
I smell damage control incoming after gamers nexus' video. Here comes the broad apology.
You didn't even take the protective film off of the mouse feet...
That comment aged really well 😂
I preordered the blue version. Love it. Where he says the mice feet are not smooth, be aware there is plastic on the mic feet but it is very hard to notice. They do need to be removed. For whatever reason they did this instead of a full piece of plastic wrap on the bottom.
pretty common for bands to do it. I prefer when they use like blue or red for the film. I personally never understood the full bottom of the mouse film, like whats it really doing.
I caught some friends having not removed film from various mice as well. Missed some one some replacement feet myself. Thinnest plastic I'd ever seen!
Good looking out bro :)
did they edit out that part of the video?
So an average user like you could remove it but a big company like LMG cant
@@DarcMagikian yeah read the pinned comment.
You guys screw up, acknowledge it and STILL throw the company under the bus smh
Imagine how many videos got wrong data and wrong kind of reviews?
@@rockssp5388 thats the sad part. like how many others are wrong just because they dont like the product or didnt bother to go back an fix them...
Hahah saw that video from Gamers Nexus . I intentionally avoid watching video reviews with David since couple of years ago , where he was wondering why there were so many holes on the particular mice and how it was triggering his Trypophobia , suggesting they were to cool your hands lmao. He clearly didn't hear about weight reductions . I stopped watching videos with his appearance.
First 5 sec:
"I'm always wrong"
Yup.
The fact this video is still up shows how little you actually care.
you can ask the manifacturer to send you a prototype, so you can sell it!
CLOWNS!
Thanks to Gamer Nexus for highlight this enormous mistake, and showing LTT's extremely poor handling of it by just cutting the faulty section but still leaving the video up with the same conclusion based on faulty data.
Redo the entire video or just take it down.
Guess I'll be taking anything from ShortCircuit and LTT with a BIG grain of salt in the future.
Linus refused to do that because it would cost him $200-$500.... that to me shows his true colours
Imagine how many videos got wrong data and wrong kind of reviews?
@@rockssp5388 Of course, everyone makes mistakes. It's that you correct and learn from the mistake that is the important part. Which is precisely what LTT is NOT doing by just splicing out the comment about poor glide but leaving the rest of the conclusion up despite it hinging on removed content.
@@keithpattendenI agree
$$$ from Ads means more to them than taking it down
oof, they "apologize" yet still put the blame on the company. 😂 damn. the team that did this video should really be ashamed.
yeah absolute horrendous handling. They should take this video down in my opinion. If thats not an option ..at least they could have cut it short by saying "we didnt noticed the protection film" but they blamed the company for that mistake still. I mean sure, the film should be easy to see and remove fine, good constructive feedback.. but this wasnt the place for it, it should be in the video not in an "apology" comment.
Not only that, bud edited the video in place so that all the people who viewed the video before the cuts will never know they were lied to.
i can no longer trust ltt for accurate information on hardware.
Forced me to unsubscribe after being a subscriber for 8 years..
I have been noticing this trend on their super quick fly through laptop reviews. no actual data being shown and the battery runtimes are vastly different from any other independent laptop reviewer (notebookcheck, jarrodtech and more). I thought i was the only one
@@r_boto same here man. It sucks watching a channel you trust absolutely fuck up like this. I expected better from LMG but here we are..
Imagine how many videos got wrong data and wrong kind of reviews?
I agree, this might make me completely unsub to them
Classy LMG. Way to botch a review by not even fully unpackaging the product lol
How do you not know the plastic is still on the skates
@@TheRageAcademyI don’t even think that’s the issue the issue is that this is still up knowing the entire premise is false. What a bunch of scumbags
Dude even starts off saying he's always wrong...
LMG Credibility thrown out the window. If they want to regain respect own it
They made a new video about it today
@@kart182 seen it and it does go some way to repair the damage but still this one...
Imagine how many videos got wrong data and wrong kind of reviews?
What's going on here? Can someone educate me on this topic? Just came here to watch a review and the comment section goes mental
"Not a review channel"
Proceeds to review the mouse after trying it for ten minutes..
Listening to 15 minutes talking about reviewing the mouse and forgets to take the film off lol
keeping this video up as a source of info is embarrassing LOL
This is still up, FFS LMG have some integrity f
BUT YOUR HONOR. the legos never said not to swallow them LMAO
I feel like mice should start having easily upgradable internals, especially magnesium alloy ones, who knows which sensor or switch will be the new hot thing in the next year or two. Maybe open-source firmware as well, like QMK on keyboards.
Asus has patent on hot swappable switches.
as long as the externals aren't hollow crap magnets
You're going to have a tradeoff in weight.
@@gzamm that's alright, makes them too tall anyways. Also most people and places just slap in the latest and most durables ones.
I honestly like this idea
As Linus said himself "LMG is NOT your friend" this applies to viewers, consumers, business partners and even their own employees. Pretty sad to see how far LMG as a whole has fallen.
his employees are NOT familiy and viewers are not a "community" ... LTT is a corp business looking to extract money from you, that's it. don't fall for the parasocial marketing, that is all it is
@@jeremytine couldn't of said it better myself
Look, I have this mouse and I agree that film was hard to notice at first and I thought there was something wrong with my mouse as well. But actually flipped my mouse and took a look at it and realized my mistake. The fact that they initially doubled down and claimed that they did remove it when they clearly didn't is really scummy. And when they finally do acknowledge it, they're still trying to deflect.
On 1:10 you see the bottom of the mouse, can you see if its on their or was the smooth test done with the red one later? (bottom visible around 2:01.
@@jdh0O9 I can't see it in the video but then when do I ever notice plastic film in a video on RUclips. That's the kind of thing compression would destroy.
The pad thing is a big mess up. I am the type of person that would spend that kind of money on a mouse and I was looking for a new mouse when I saw this video for the first time. The mention of poor pad performance kept me from buying it. I can't believe LMG forgot to take off the pad protection, regardless of the manufacturer not including a pull tab. I made that mistake once, then I stopped for 2 seconds to check for pad protection, and I found it. That company lost my sale to LMGs error. Sorry Pwnage. Please follow the advice of your employees' candid videos you did awhile back. Take the time to test and reflect on your results to find outliers.
Same here, I unsubbed after 8 years.
i think unsubbing is a bit extreme. I just hope this callout with make them see the error of their ways and focus more on consistency and quality over quantity. I think any company could go through these growing pains. They have alot of things they have to pay off or for now. The temptation of quantity(more money) over quality is alluring.@@r_boto
@@r_botoGood
Funny enough, I've never relied on LTT for actual tech reviews when I'm looking for specific pieces of tech. Like for my Razer mouse I looked up hundreds of non LTT videos and reviews because I know they have a certain disliking of Razer and will put it down any chance they get. And so far, 2 years later, my mouse is still going stronger than any mouse they recommend
As someone who owns both the Pwnage Stormbreaker and the Logitech G Pro X Superlight: The Stormbreaker glides easier and is easier to hold in hand when the grip tape is applied. Without the grip tape, I used more grip strength than I wanted to hold the mouse because the magnesium is so slippery - this being regardless of the holes or if they'd done with a smooth design.
Also, in the month I've been using it, the grip tape has become less sticky, but shows no indication of becoming gunky. So far, at least.
LTT lies once again.
did he actually use the mouse at all ??
Most, if not all premium mice come with a protective film on the feet. The fact that this professional mouse reviewer didn't even check for them is appalling.
diamonds are now honey-combs 😏
Thanks to a proper reviewer like GamersNexus, I know this is actually a mouse worth buying!
I literally discounted the mouse after I saw the review initially. Clearly I have been putting too much stock into what one channel has been saying.
Imagine how many videos got wrong data and wrong kind of reviews?
Wonder if this reviewer leaves the protective film on his cpu cooler and then wonder why its overheating kind of guy?
When its glide is the thing the mouse was marketed for, how can you not check the mouse feet when the glide is suspiciously bad?
Imagine being a tech-specific company and not checking if there was a film on the feet. Every mouse I've gotten has had a film with no pull tabs on it but it says in the instructions that there is a film that must be removed before use.
Please consider having a company-wide training module on how to find the instruction booklets and how to read them.
Next time try use the mouse inside the box
Been maining this for a month straight with a dozen other top end mice. IMO this mouse fits a specific niche (if you want a DAv3 but smaller and lighter, but something higher quality than Pulsar Xlite), but if you're in that niche this is literally your endgame.
This is the perfect razer death adder v3 pro mini in magnesium especially when that 4k polling hits, Reviewer is lost on the most important thing here the shape, cant help their baby fingers falling thru the tiny slants on the side somehow
If you want a higher quality than Pulsar Xlite, get a Pulsar X2. Although I don't know what is wrong or lower quality on the Xlite (v1 even) than this mouse. It's just a different mouse and about 2 years old by now. Still fantastic.
@@kurosumomo I have two pulsar X2s, but those mices are ambidextrous, and I'm comparing ergo mice at.
@@hns_203lamzu thorn maybe?
@@kurosumomo And I meant lower quality because the Stormbreaker is magnesium alloy while the xlite is just plastic.
Quantity over quality. That's the LMG way!
As unnoticeable as the film may have been, a good verdict would've included as much from the jump. Now it's just some idiot's take on a product he wasn't prepared to use.
Not even 5 seconds into the video,
"I'm always wrong"
Yeah you sure are buddy lmao
Nexus really ripping you guys open, factually. Can't wait to see what Linus' hilariously terrible and tone deaf emotional reply will be.
Well you hit that nail on the head 😂
its out now go have a laugh
Yeah I saw it. It was somehow worse than I was expecting, haha. Oh, how he has fallen.
He just did a most corpo apology and apology doesn't even mention steves. He still pretend like both steve doesn't exist.
This aged pretty well
Check the bottom for tape next time, and if it doesn't glide well, replace that shit matt
Starting off the video saying "I'm always wrong" should be your disclaimer on every video
Between this and the Viper Mini SE video, I’m starting to believe y’all don’t know what a honeycomb is lol
Wait, what do you mean the original "The bad glide is REALLY disappointing" didn't "significant contributor to David's conclusion about the mouse"? How can that possibly be true?
David. Diamonds and honeycomb are vury different shapes. You’re a boss, but it annoyed the fuuuuuu*k outta me every time you called it honeycomb, man! 🤣💜
He's not a boss..... This guy has absolutely no clue what he's talking about and it's been pissing off the mouse community for the longest time
This aged like fine milk.
Pwnage makes awesome stuff. I've been using the Ergo custom for over 4 years now with several color schemes and I also have their mechanical keyboard and love it. Their grips actually hold up pretty well. I used one for 3 years before getting a new set.
Until today I had a really really good impression about LTT over all, but since I watched Gamer Nexus Latest Video about LTT... watching this to confirm the claims done in that video... more precisely about the protective film that is so clearly present and reflective - between minute 2:59 to 3:01 I am feeling a little betrayed and pissed for the trust given. I thought that LTT was 110% legit. Now I am not so sure anymore. I guess that Money Talks! Good thing that at least this "reviewer" (if we can call him that) didn't missed the box and actually removed the mouse from inside it! How would this review looked like if they would have said... this mouse is not working at all... we can not see any cables, the shape is wrong or how to plug this mouse into a USB port, while trying to click through or use the the box as a mouse. :)) I wouldn't have posted this here if this would have been the only video/review that LTT got wrong. At least the pin comment sorts this out a bit and the edited video helps. But as I said... there are others out there that need fixing. I really hope this will get sorted out... so I can keep all of the 6 channels that I am currently subscribed at. ;-)
Next WAN show gonna be a spicy one 🔥😊
He’s just gonna whine 🤡
He already put a response on the LTT forums. First sentence is that he won't talk about it on the WAN show. The rest is blaming everyone else.
How can u review a gaming mouse without noticing the FILM on its feets ? bruh thats the most important part of a gaming mice UNBELIEVABLE
ever since the Razer Viper 8K review which was tested on a single game, i don't take LTT mouse or keyboard reviews seriously. they may have superior testing equipments but seems to lack testing knowledge. i'll personally stick to established peripheral reviewers instead.
Ladies & gentlemen, a $100M company that so dumb that it forgets to remove the plastic film off a mouse before testing it.
hey is this mouse up for auction? just curious...
08:31 you can hear him pealing one of the clear films on the feet accidentally with his finger. normie channel for normies who take the words of the whole lmg group as a holy writing...
That can literally be anything from an accidental tap to a scroll wheel
@@Rokegle135 yea as if a CLICK didn't got their names by the sounds they make, this was clearly a small piece of light material being pulled by his finger skin. and for scroll here is a time stamp 04:38 - so much for that scroll sounds.
It's crazy this video is still up
"i'm always wrong" more true than you realized
a guy with a low T and pierced ears is a frustrated guy and I wouldn't take him seriously when it comes to accuracy in technology and technical details.
They probably had to pay a boatload for the 'expert' not even to give a shite to check the manual on proper instructions. And then they got screwd over, TWICE! AFTER PAYING THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Im sorry, did you say "this will get gunked up and gross" to the solid textured rubber pads which is gonna be easy to wipe, on a mouse FULL of holes, which is gonna be way harder to clean
so perfect on paper just like the paper you didn't remove
4.3k likes 9.4k dislikes
since when does honeycomb mean "holes"?
is this pwnage at least pure?
what does that mean
@@jerryyy. hop into the noob schoolbus and teh_pwnerer will drive you to the gamer army, lets see how uber your micro is
I can dance all day!
Boom head shot!
I used to be a pro gamer, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
... and they've still left this video up. Man!
Coreteks pointed out LMG's short comings a couple of years ago but Linus brushed him off.
When is the auction for the prototype? 😂
Why is this video still up? The thumbnail says “So close”, but even if they cut it out of the video, the conclusions drawn here are massively impacted by the ptfe feed issue
How dose some one in 2023 not know to take the stickers off the skates, what a professional lol
are the stickers Removed yet ?
Thanks to GN's most recent video on LMG, I will be unsubbing from every LMG channel on youtube. I refuse to support these frauds for another second.
I just did it... At least for now... until they fix their system...
Downvoting LMG and letting my opinion be heard. Maybe LTT and LMG will improve and slow down a bit or at least take responsibility for accidently damaging others reputation. I'd like to see them fix this.
Just did the same. And i hope, he takes personal responsibility, everything else wont do. And start listening to your employees!
ha, a little bit of an over reaction wouldn't you say? people like you amaze me, so no one ever is allowed to make a mistake eh? not noticing some plastic on a mouse, clearly means anything they have to say about a monitor must be compolete BS
@@kenwiebe2473 make a mistake? or mistakes and not correcting them? Sometimes after much time passed they post and pin a comment after community points their mistake. They should slow down videos and contact producers when LTT's result don't match with claims.
I don't know about other PTFE but the PTFE we use at work usually gets dirty seconds after manufacturing something. Usually if you touch it with sligthly dirty fingers and in generally after a bit of time. You notice that it's not coated or protected because it gets grey and you feel it. It feels like a smooth and sligthly "slick" plastic.
0:04 "I'm always wrong"'
So right you are.
My new comedy channel. Thanks Linus, keep up the steady work !
I can't believe you still haven't taken this down...
If a reportedly low friction mouse suddenly has a lot of friction, check the skates before calling it defective or broken. Even if it's not obvious, CHECK.
There's your tech tip for the day.
To me, LMG is an entertainment company 1st and review channel second. It's always best to look up other reviewers opinions on products (rtings etc) before buying them. If simple mistakes like this are happening with a mouse review, why should people trust your lab test results, who's to say the same mistakes aren't happening in lab tests🤔
Exactly. If they want to be more review-oriented, spend time triple-checking the products. That way Pwnage can constructively be called out on giving poor/no instructions to remove the protective covering, BUT the mouse is still assessed properly with it removed because they took the time to inspect.
However, as some feedback to Pwnage, they need to make it much more clear to their end users that the film is present as it does not have any pull tabs and is transparent, providing very little indication that it's there unless you know to look for it.
Yeah, blame it on the product instead of using a really reliable and professional staff to review the product
If a reviewer has an issue with the packaging then a large number of purchasers will also, this is a usability issue that clearly wasn't tested. But who knows how they actually test product packaging.
It's like how software designers hide stuff in the UI and just assume users will magically find it.
@@Grymyrkok but to leave the video up of an improperly unboxed product where the main issue was that it wasn’t fully unboxed is dogwater. Especially when they gave it a thumbs down due to said error in unboxing
Like yeah it should be a factor but to be the entire premise??? Unbelievable. What have I gained having watched this? Absolutely nothing it’s just a waste of time and shows their distain for their viewers
Ltt eats desiccant packets and pop tarts with the wrapper...
Yeah I would've jumped on this so fast if it was a solid shell or at least no slits on the sides. It was really the deciding factor for me. I've been very happy with my EC1-CW even though it is heavier. Having the charging dock and the pink dots are my favorite feeling switches. Plus it's been rock solid no changes to click feel, or shell unlike the DA v3 PRO that is plagued with those quality issues. Having all the settings on the mouse is trade off I'm willing to take for a little more weight as well.
I can't imagine you like this if you have and EC1 and Da this is like EC3 or smaller.
@@profosist I'm not super picky in the size department as long as it's not too small, I mained the g pro x superlight for a couple years as well. I do prefer ergo shapes though but my hands are pretty giant to the point I can finger tip the ec1 without any issues. Anything around the ec3 size and up I'm comfortable with. I have the model d, model d pro, da v3 pro, g pro x superlight, viper ultimate, and ec1-cw. I like mice in general but haven't really hit home on a perfect main for myself unfortunately. The DA v3 pro would be if the qc issues weren't so prevalent and wireless charging would be perfect. I like the ec1 but it's not my perfect at home shape, the back is a little to drop off for my palm to hit comfortably on, I would prefer a slightly more pronounce hump towards the back. I do prefer a wireless charging option on a wireless mouse that is supposed to be "pro" and premium costing anywhere above $120 I think they should have that option. It doesn't break my decision all together but it is certainly a point against for me personally if they don't have it.
@@profosist Actually got this mouse in about a week ago and yeah, it's my main now. I thought the cut outs on the side would annoy me WAY more than they do. Honestly I don't even notice them now. I'm usually not a fan of Omron switches but these are implemented so way these are actually my favorite mouse clicks. The side buttons I do wish were a little bit lower like the DA v3 pro and a touch easier to spam click, they are very satisfyingly clicky but a little too stiff imo, not by a ton or anything game breaking just wish they were a little lighter. I haven't used the grip tape and I don't plan to, I don't need them I actually very much enjoy the feel of this mouse without it. Mouse wheel encoder is fabulous, and the mmb is great, very crisp and easily spammable with a good reset. I actually love the feel of the mouse wheel just being plastic without any rubberized stuff.
Build Quality is amazing, and it's implementation in general are really done well. The moveable sensor for me is nice, I actually do prefer my sensor further forward and have set it at the very front and left it there since. You don't notice the weight balance because it's so light but you get used to it very fast and don't notice after that. Slam click is actually useful since this mouse is so tight implementation that if you do drop the mouse from like a cm it will click.
Now here's the one big con and this is true with every higher polling rate mouse. The battery. The battery with 2k is dogshit. You'll get about 2-3 days MAX with moderate gaming. At 1k the battery life is pretty solid, probably about a week of moderate to heavy use. I only notice the 2k on my desktop in all honestly, it's like barely noticeably smoother if at all. I use 170hz panel and it's really not noticeable to the point of being worth it at all in the slightest for the loss of battery. Now it's hard to exactly nail down how good or bad the battery is because the software does not report it accurately. I have seen this mouse gain 5% points, I've seen it multiple times go up a few percentage without being charged at all and I've seen it charge from 76% to 99% in like 10 minutes showing full charge, just to take it off the charge and then it drops back down to 83%. So the software and or the mouse do not accurately display the battery level.
TLDR;
Overall an amazing mouse with great clicks and feel all around including the scroll wheel encoder. The side holes aren't nearly as bad as you think especially after a week or so. Don't use 2k polling rate as it cuts the battery life in half or more, and the software does not accurately report the battery life.
The best part is this and many other incorrect videos just left online
I so would like to have one of these awesome super high end mice, but there always seems to be some kind of compromise with them somewhere
I like to just wait for Logitech to catch up, sure they're almost never the best but that return policy is 🔥
@@Kyle496 the Pulsar XLite V2 is pretty decent for the mean time. but it just lacks the super premium feeling
Usually based around the fact that is some super small niche company manufacturing it.
@@Kyle496 I keep hearing this but the two times I've been in contact with them my experience hasn't been that great. But both times it was outside the normal one year warranty so I just had to accept it.
@@scott21003370 and Kailh 8.0
no thank you
damn really truth they did so dirty to Pwnage Stormbreaker Shame on LTT
Dude for a 180 freakin dollars, you should expect them to have protective pads everywhere! lol Even less expensive one have that.
I shall forever stand by the Logitech G700 being the best shape for (right-handed) mice ever.
Man, Linus gonna have a hissyfit over this one😂
How is this video still up?
0:-05 "I'm always wrong" sound awkward now after the Gamer Nexus video.
He probably didn't even bother to read the user manual lol After GNs video, trust in the LGM group was reduced to zero.
I wanted to buy this mouse. But when i saw the Review i didn't...
Now i regret with every cell of my body because the mouse is now way way more expensive where i live... Thanks LTT! Srly wtf
next time follow trust worthy reviewers
This feels like when The Verge was showing how to build a PC.
Quantity over quality.
I still respect them for what they have accomplished, but not for what they have become.
happy this video came out as i was taking my daily bathroom break
Why is this video not taken down?
because they need money. 🤡
Do y'all leave the plastic on the CPU cooler and blame the manufacturer for it as well?
they didnt cover the macro section in the software, i wouldve love to learn about it so i could buy this mouse :(
Don’t ever make a purchasing decision based on an LTT video. ESPECIALLY not their peripheral videos
its a pretty good mouse but i always reach for my dav3 instead.