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Best one yet. My first 6 months of teaching was like, "I'm going to save the world." 20 years later, I'm still teaching, and I'm like I just need my monthly paycheck. I've got kids. Te.
-INFP
Do people call you selfish and irresponsible? I believe I'm an INFP as well and starting a family would be hell. My outside reality doesn't reflect what i how my life would be if did have a family. Like what I do is enough for me, and I really only care for that, but with a family i need to make my whole life about the kids. What happens when I wanna hang myself working a job where im NOT saving the world?
Funny thing is that I work with kids too.
@@Lmaoeatrr One day at a time. Sometimes 15 mins. at a time. It's cool if the family is not your life right now. Be gentle with yourself. A lot of things go into deciding to have family than one's MBTI. Enjoy the ride.
We don’t need to fight to improve the world
Really drives home that idea that fear-driven action will be against things that aren't real. And the nature of reality itself.
Useful!
"You're gonna forget the jar in two hours". I really liked this Ni concept.
This is one of the significant videos you've ever pumped out.
*The "Message" April 2021*
1) Evolution designed you to see only 2/8 Functions.
2) Your body has chemicals that convince you that you see all of reality.
3) Suffering comes from contradiction (Yeah, but this time this problem is real!).
4) Freedom comes from WORKING BACKWARDS from the math/truth (Zen, the world is doing just fine without you).
5) Everyday I'm going to be "triggered" 10 times... Look for that bad state (not "reality").
6) Put ALL OF YOUR PRACTICE into getting back to a good/Zen state in 20 minutes... (then go to work on the pickle jar).
*Quotes*
"When *pain, misery or anger* happens, it is time to look *within you, not around you* ." - Sadhguru
"There's so much treasure in your life right now. You just have to be willing to dig a little bit for it." - David Bayer
"When we're not defending and justifying, and we're being very still, our answers can and do shock us." - Byron Katie
"Fear is going to be a player in your life, but you get to decide how much." - Jim Carrey
No idea how to make use of this.
@@i5m5bob start a MBTI channel/site, or some other self help crap, if you’re good enough, a cult!
But sometimes changing the world is fun.
You Must Also Be An ENTP. Changing The World Is What We Strive For Everyday.
Dude! Thank you! I've been high centerd on the last step for so long! Thanks for giving one of my major blinders sight and definition. Easily one of your best videos! Love your work guys.
Step one... Turn off the damned "News" programs...
I think its absolutely delightful that you are just as fun welcoming, and casual in your class as in your youtube videos. Much love to you guys :3
These ideas that you are not chosen by God, nothing is out to get you (despite the political turmoil going on in the world,) and ultimately that "nothing is real" is just something that I can't wrap my head around. The video seems to be both Anti-Evolution and Anti-Theist over the idea that nothing is out to get you despite your Evolutionary Brain/God always warning you of such things. "Nothing is Real" is such a New Age Concept.
"The world is fine and no one is there to get you"😃
Then why I see alcohol and smoking ads everywhere I go?
What about Pornography?
And if you think that these things are harmless, please ignore my comment.
Shan slam poetry starts at 2:43
I wish there was more balance here in delivering the message, while also calling out big issues in the world and the role we can all have in dismantling them (such as systemic racism, domination culture (see bell hooks), climate change, consumerism, alienation, etc.)
20 minute freak out...
Wow as an INTP I have figured out this long when I was young. The ultimate truth is that there is no truth. Its all perspective.
I really needed to hear this today. Thank you!
What if it takes me months to work on the same pickle jar and 20 minutes was up a long time ago.
Thank you.
😆 you guys are awesome. Ass kickin' Dave and Shan. "
Nothing is real, nothing to get hung about, strawberry hills forever."
I just read Tame Your Anxiety and that 20 minute zen to get the half life of your cortisol down was AMAZING to learn. :)
Stardust, termites, ants, evolution, everything's fine....
I love you guys. You make me chuckle. Thanks for you content, as always 💗
BK's four questions are really good for questioning the dominant function.
For me as an INFP, it's questioning the subjective ideals that I naively hope the world come around to. Self above tribe. Thankfully, I no longer believe this because I'm an older INFP, but you get the message. I'm deep into the hero's journey at this point. 😊
Byron Katie: The litmus test is gratitude. God or reality s benevolent.
What makes things difficult is how believing our thoughts distort sweet reality.
Also, there's no new thoughts only recycled ones, but we insist as Shan was implying that only I have the negative problems or thoughts. Nope, that's not true.
People do awful things to each other because they're believing something in their mind. You have no other choice if you're believing your negative thoughts enough that you'll act on them.
1) Is it true?
2) Can you absolutely know that it's true?
3) How do you react when you believe that thought?
4) Who would you be without that thought?
A classic thought example.
The world sucks.
Use the four questions, then turn it around a few times.
The turnarounds.
I suck.
My thoughts suck right now.
A person smiled at me at the grocery store, today. (That's what actually happened. Not what you're hoping will happen.)
A friend called today. (reality)
A friend texted me today. (reality)
When you get deeper into it and reflect back on what you were thinking and what actually happened. That's when you know you're making progress, and realize how kind reality truly is.
Byron Katie: "When you argue with reality, you lose, but only 100% of the time." 😊
Byron Katie has had a huge influence on Tony Robbins and Jim Carrey. BTW. Just sayin'.
Byron Katie doesn’t really work because when;you turn things around it becomes “I suck” so now you’re just attacking yourself. Turning things around is enough to cause depression, not fix things.
@@orangeziggy348 Stillness, my friend, stillness. It's not an academic pursuit. Also, dig into her work more before quick, dismissive judgement, a very SJ thing to do. -INFP guy
I needed to hear this. Thank you!
“That’s a poem you should sell” 🤣🤣🤣
Fight! With all your might!
I love the pickle jar analogy. Great video!
You guys are doing amazing work, thank you!
The power of now, there is no problem in the now (if you are not leaving in a war zone). I have demon Se, and this is so hard to practice, but I am doing my homework, and yes each time it gets better. Yous guys are awesome
People are naturally bad at getting along and conflict but it’s exacerbated with politicians with a motive.
Love your work! It is valuable because it works and I love it because you are presenting it so well. And you have the biggest hearts. THANK YOU
It helps me to refuse to accept division. There is no us and them. There is only us. Problems still need to be solved. Situations need to be addressed. But refuse to be grouped into a tribe.
Consciousness is a state of deliberate hallucination produced by the chemical composition of our brain. The realization of that really took a minute for me to fully accept
Trying to narrow down exactly what reality is like and how we are and how we need to be is like chasing the horizon, its always just beyond us, and I'm not sure we'll ever actually reach it or fully understand. (As much as Dave is trying to respect the ST and disrespect his Lead Ni and play to his Se, he still is cramming "the meaning and answer" into this narrowed Ni concept. "Life is simply THIS." ... YES but also NO) -not completely disagreeing per say, but I see a lot of nuance at play. (P.S. Yes I love Dave and Shan, no I'm not throwing shade. I feel like I have to apologize for critical thinking. We're on the same team...there.) 😅
Exactly my thoughts. Thr is no inherent meaning of life. Just do what u love doing. live and let live.
Ti??
@@sharan9993 I align with a Christian worldview and swing away from nihilism in terms of meaning and purpose. I think there is significance, and meaning in life. And there certainly appears to be more at play than solely the material world. To completely rely on what is seen is too narrowed. Yet I see there isn't a black and white answer and there is much nuance to how we interact with the world. To say it is only fear that we grapple with isn't true. Or desire. Or meaning. We are complex people thus the 500+ types they have seen. (Cognition, habbit, patterns etc.) If it was this easy there would be 1 video on the OPS channel...yet because it is complex and misunderstood, there is constant expounding and recalculation.
*I haven't been officially typed. Though many people seem to have identified me using Ti.
@@austinbodiford6360 cool i hav a nihilistic view. But i definitely agree that thr is no black or white answer. Even i loved their earlier videos that helped me understand myself better. But now it seems they are using their pov.
I just can't with "big tom tom" omg dave will do everything in his power Ni (analogies) to avoid saying the fucking Se (name)
Sadghuru is one of the few I look up to, but I guess that's what an infj is likely drawn to...he helped me a lot, but none of my friends cared just a tiny bit to see what he preaches...haha, fokin hel, tiktok is their idol!
i saw what he preached , then i saw he was against wikipedia and i simply left him be
@@davidegaruti2582 whatever works best you
I think RUclips has my Infj algarithim. 😁
You sound condescending saying TikTok is their idol like what Sadguru is teaching is rocket science. These gurus teach the same things. Over and over again. Nothing new. No scientific proof to back up their words just good moods and feelings.
@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 Like there's something more to life that matters at the end of the day
Wanna know how to open a pickle jar? wrap a rubber band around the lid ;-)
Preach people! 👍🤭😭✌️
All I can think of is 'The Message' by Cabaret Voltaire.
Yeah, when I am put into a situation that requires a heavy use of Te/Si...zoinks, I realize how deficient I am.
Visualizing naked people while drinking naked juice, solution: just don’t look at the label lol
Zen Bro.
HEY guys .... Please Tell Us ... WHAT SADHGURU's TYPE IS and His lead Functions & Animals.❤️
That would be interesting. His stuff has been popping up on my RUclips feed lately and being the goofball Ni I am I click on it and watch it.
My Ne Does That All the Time 😁 , Click In , Click In ..... Click Click Click .
Sadhgurus type is MF-Ni/Ti-SB/P(C)
@@minglian9335 I thought he was FF
@@jaysonp9426 he's listed as MF on the op website
I Believe We Only Have One Emotion And That’s Love. Anything That Threatens The Loss Of That Love We Display As Fear. It Might Come Off As Embarrassment Or Rage But They Are All From The Spectrum Of Fear And Losing What We Love. Since We Only Fear Losing That Which We Still Have Then Fear Is Irrational.
Isn't this essentially the primary message of A Course in Miracles?
Love the message!
Just a quick question. Does “get back to a zen state” apply to everyone? It sounds like this is advice for Fi-Tes 🤔
The "color" of the zen state depends on your demons it seems... but there is a "zen state" that you need to find and then go back to when needed...
For me what have been working as a Te-Si xM BS/P(C) (not sure yet) is asking my self, Is this really IS my problem? Am I the one being held responsible from my boss/collagues if this blows up?, if the answer is no I just know I have to let go of me wanting the spotlight by fixing problems and let people do their things and let reality do the fixing ´couse I might be misrreading something, if they reach for me I´ll try to put my ego in check by not saying, I told you so! or how did you mis this!? and just help instead of going into default mode trying to fix everthing around my tribe or telling them how to do it right for sheer validation and them going into deaf ears mode which makes me get angry at them, and etc etc etc.
I wonder about this too. I’m not positive on my type, but I often struggle with getting enough emotion juice to DO the stuff I need to, and I got the Zen/we’re all stardust through my saviors naturally and It Is HELL for me if I pay too much attention to it and it’s implications. I don’t know if this video is for Tes and Fis, but I don’t think the Zen message the ways they often present it is healthy for everyone. I don’t blame them exactly there’s so many types you can’t check for all of them for every message, but I kinda wish it would be addressed at some point. I love them and most of their messages but it sometimes feels like parts of my savior to demon journey is opposite what they preach 😂
This.
Ive actually been through that scenario everyday since ive gotten my illness AE(scared over fake shit). Reality is fake everyone live your life if u can
How do we explain people who always think they are wrong? Who want someone else to save them? Is that double F savior? Is the Zen message needed for everyone all the time? It doesn’t seem like a great message for people who can already see the stardust with their saviors or with very little will to live, but I understand the need to press it on the people this video seems to be directed towards. (Sorry for the rant last week)
I agree it’s not one size fits all situations message.
Tis of the world, what do you think about the chemicals they keep mentioning?
Look thr is chemicals doing chemicals things and life has no inherent meaning. U can do wt u like doing and be happy. When u hav fear and bad emotions go through them and say sorry if u hurt anybody. Mainly live and let live.
Intp lead ti/ne
I think we should use saviours to our advantage and try to improve our demons.
There's just a lot of holes in this theory.
You're right at some points! 💯
but you still have a lot of logical & rational contradictions to deal with.
The quotes are beautifully deep and right , but that doesn't make your theory right.
Sorry but this is the truth.
Thats how alcoholics think, this time will be different.
The very end reminded me of some research Dario Nardi did on emotional reactions to certain words. Stronger Fi correlated with attaching emotional significance to certain words. Interestingly, in ENTJs, the F8 region of the brain lit up only when saying negative words rather than positive ones!
Hahhahaha super Tom Tom. I saw that episode on impact theory when it came out and I didn’t notice that resemblance until now. Hahahahah
This video is so interesting, but I honestly have no idea what most of it means. It makes me wonder if I'm just so lost from reality that I can't relate to any of it. Like, maybe I need tons of reality checks or something.
It means you're brain washed just like everyone else was. But you're here, and that means you're very close to being out. Congratulations!
@@nobodynowhere21 What was I brain washed into believing though?
@@sharingheart13 Default programming says that you ARE your emotions and your thoughts, and it by default prevents you from perceiving this algorithm, if I may call it that. I say "brainwashed" because it's clear we don't HAVE to be brought up that way, we could give kiddos the "red pill" a lot earlier in life and save everyone a lot of time (Dave even mentions he's seeing younger people in their 20's waking up). The default mode is to operate while identifying with ego (or the worse variant: identifying with what Jung called "persona"). All the gurus stress "separation" from mind, presence in the moment, etc. You are a meaningless fleck of nothing, but that is also an incredible freedom. Oh and if you live in the US I feel obligated to mention that nationalism is a mind-virus, but I don't want to create too much of a stir. So "default programming" and "American nationalism" are two ways in which you've been brainwashed. And that's just the appetizer! Wheee!!!!!
@@nobodynowhere21 I have had so many times where I believe I'm one person, then when I stop and look, I realize that I'm pretty much the opposite of what I believed. But, this makes me wonder if even this realization that I'm the opposite of what I thought is in of itself still part of the algorithm that I don't realize is there. I feel like that line of thinking will lead into a deep rabbit hole of which there is no escape.
6:38 slo waaayy down with this intuitarded nonsense right here. Of course you can see reality.
-Se dom
No Bullshit SHIT SHIT SHIT 🤣
I love you guys. No seriously, I absolutely love both of you. Thank you calling out some of the lies kids are being told their entire lives. Nobody is fucking special. It isn't your job to tell someone else how they should live their fucking life. You are not the fucking savior of the world. The world existed before you and it fucking will afterwards. Fucking tired of it. Seriously, I don't claim to be smart, but the tribe has worked hard to make sure I think they are fucking stupid.
so what I get is you won't suffer if you don't have anything to care about, sweet
😂😂😂
Shanny poem LMAO
10:17 his ears aren't very red?
Lol love it
3? really? on memorial day? tone deaf. guess you rather of been born back in germany in 1910s? The person who thinks that they are so insignificant that they don't matter, and the person that thinks truely deep down that they know they were ment to do what no one else can; they are both right. Do you even read history bro?
i am sixth eighths fucked up.
B-but we have to spread the truth on the annunaki!
also zen isn't a state
You are so wrong.
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