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0:00 So much GPU News!!!
0:39 RTX 50 series leaks show no VRAM increase and more
9:23 latest RDNA4 leak
10:44 AMD gives away 2 free games bundled with GPUs, my thoughts
16:17 Maxsun bundles Black Myth Wukong with RTX 40 GPUs
16:58 AMD admits Ryzen 9000 non-3D CPUs will be slower in gaming than 7000X3D
18:51 Tuxedo developing Snapdragon X Elite based Linux laptops 
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Chapters:
0:00 So much GPU News!!!
0:39 RTX 50 series leaks show no VRAM increase and more
9:23 latest RDNA4 leak
10:44 AMD gives away 2 free games bundled with GPUs, my thoughts
16:17 Maxsun bundles Black Myth Wukong with RTX 40 GPUs
16:58 AMD admits Ryzen 9000 non-3D CPUs will be slower in gaming than 7000X3D
18:51 Tuxedo developing Snapdragon X Elite based Linux laptops
RUclips STOP HIM! HE'S TRYING TO DO TIMESTAMPS!
about to buy a 6800 my self here. why buy the newer one if the 6800 is the same performance more or less of the 7700 they shot them self's in the foot with that move the chips them self's I mean
I think there might be a character limit for each chapter. You can try shortening some of the chapters that have the longest titles to see if that helps.
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@@fiftymk_fox4914 im still on 2070 super 💀
The good news is that Lisa and Jensen are competing. The bad news is they're competing on how little value they can give consumers.
I think that the problem here is actually that Lisa isn't competing with her upcoming gen, since there won't be any high-end models, which is why Jensen can get away with offering little value with his.
Fun fact the GPU division of both companies is essentially a throwaway division bc diy pc is a dying market. Nvidia makes ai cards and trickles down the architecture into diy pc as a testing ground. Amd makes console cards and trickles down into diy pc as a testing ground. They both have their respective market segment on lock and dont care that much about diy pc
Amd > nvidia, try again
@@mikkodoria4778 So Jensen is winning their competition. Tough call, but you might be right.
RX 8850XTX w/ 32GB of VRAM for $699 would be insane value 🤯🙏
70 class is becoming a 50 class card now
Your delusional
3070 having 8gb of vram is a complete joke.
Its a VERY capable card (unless it runs out of vram in higher resolutions), a youtuber moded a 3070 with 2gb vram chips for 16gb total and the card ripped games in 4K.
More like the 50 class is becoming 70 class in naming
@@Manysdugjohn I wouldn't go that far, only thing it could've "ripped" in 4K were 10+ yr old games. That being said it should've had 12GB alongside the ti, 3060 having it instead makes no sense.
They have to gimp the 70 series otherwise no one would buy the higher end one. The 3070 would have basically been a perfect card for a large majority of people if it had a better vram pool.
"Everything but the 5090 won't have wider a memory bus" Imagine my absolute surprise!😲
so the same thing that has been happening for the past over a decade? yawn
CEO math
@visitante-pc5zc they need ceo math to shop at yacht topic
Wider bus doesn't necessarily mean much. It's about total memory bandwidth. GDDR7 is faster, so it'll give us more overall bandwidth than last gen. A RTX 5080 with 256 bit bus will probably be nipping at the heels of a 4090 in memory bandwidth despite having a smaller bus. Add in a doubling of L3 cache and better RT and tensor cores and it'll probably outperform a 4090 by 10% to 20% too. If it launches at $999 with a small 2 slot form factor it'll fly off the shelves.
@@03chrisvI waited 2 years for 10%, performance nice
No vram increase for new gen is crazy
Because they're already enough. Only AMD fanboys scream about this because AMD replaces RT, SS, and Encoding performance by giving their lowest cards 128GB of vRAM
@@EveryGameGurunah 8gb vram is not enough
@@EveryGameGuru I mean I'm a NVIDIA buyer but how are you hinged on AMD fans as a defense and not seeing what AMD is providing at a fraction of the cost? Like...as purely a consumer, do you NOT like more for less?
Straight up unacceptable in 2024
@@EveryGameGuru tell me you're stupid without telling me you're stupid
That gap between 5090 and 5080 is massive, they’re actively pushing consumers into buying their 90 tier cards lol
And it works for the ones with more money than sense
5080 looks very bad indeed. remember to vote with your wallets. for sure a 5080 ti will arrive maybe with 384 bit bus
It's so they can sell the RTX 5080 in China. Export laws mean they can't sell GPUs more powerful than the RTX 4090 D in China, so they inentionally gimped the GB203 die so it would fall within the legal range.
"You bought a 5080 for 2000usd? Peasant."
-Nvidia
you mean pushing people towards abducting people outside of microcenter on launch day...
50 series is fucking cooked man
It is. That is until they release a new kind of alien tech like generating new upscaled frames from a text prompt and its the next best thing again.
They are the Ubisoft of GPU. Everyone thinks they suck. They release some hyped gameplay and its Watch Dogs 1 all over again.
@@jooyichenNvidia doesn’t care about gamers. It’s launching the RTX 5080 1st to sell to China to get around the US ban.
5060Ti-8GB.... BEST SELLING GPU OF 2025
No it's not, people will buy this shit anyway because it's a status symbol rather than them actually wanting a decent GPU
@@theevildice83 maybe not a status symbol, its just mindshare cuz Radeon Group have been asleep this gen.
I'd like to think we'll see a 5050 Ti with 1GB of VRAM. That should be more than adequate for today's market.
Nah 500 mega bytes is all you need for 480p
Nvidia fans: It's a 540p card why should it have more than 4GB?
Nah, 512MB of VRAM is enough, you just have to turn DLSS to upscale from 480p to 1080p...
This is a lame, and annoying take. Pointless comment
@@godnamedtay *uno reverse*
We're entering a new dark age of PC tech after the Renaissance that we had with AM4 and the GTX 1000 series. The chip shortage was just the prologue. Increased prices for GPUs that rely on upscaling technology and frame generation to provide a significant up in performance from the previous generation, or paying 2K for a 4090. Paying top level prices for midrange hardware, low tier cards non-existent based on their price...
Dont forget unoptimized games and games that just suck. Definitely an era of no fun to be had.
@@teddybear1342Every era has had poorly optimized games or games that suck, that's hardly anything new.
GTX 1000 was bad, really good performances improvement but don't you remember the +40% in prices ? In fact the MSRP didn't increase that much but Nvidia made a really bad move by not selling its founder edition card at MSRP, so noone was able to make affordable model at launch.
To illustrate a GTX 970 cost 350$ at launch, a 1070 was around 500$, so the price had increased about 40%.
GTX 1000 was the beginning of the end, and the only reason many had good memories about GTX 1000 was because RTX 2000 were so lame that it makes GTX 1000 looks like bargains (which they weren't)
there's always the used market if you want alternative
@@adarion2994 You are incorrect, the 10 series is looked at fondly because of it's great performance uplift but also it's prices. A GTX 1070 MSRP was 370, not 500 like you claimed. Yes, the prices were bumped up across the board by about $50, but the performance increase was actually great so it made it worth it.
“I’ll become a mouse pointer”.
😂 Love it everytime.
I sent a screenshot from one of his vid to a friend the other day he was like who tf is this guy
me: he's just the mouse pointer dont mind.
It's so adorable
"I'm tiny now"
"Oooh im tiny now"
No extra VRAM Good to know my GPU will be fine for awhile longer
i dont think so, rtx 50 series will crush everything
@@62185hhh Based on specs, the only thing that will be crushed is your wallet.
@@62185hhh what they mean is games won't start ramping up vram usage if current gen can't handle it. It doesn't matter if it gets more fps if it has the same vram limitation, if it had more vram and games used more then there's the potential for a way worse drop-off in performance depending on the title.
@@62185hhhit'll be crushing textures, your hopes and dreams, and your wallet all at once!
@@62185hhh That's not what they are talking about. If the VRAM doesn't increase in the 50 series and most people still buy Nvidia, then they won't have to worry about needing more VRAM for a while longer. the 50 series will obviously have improvements in other ways, but VRAM won't be one of them.
Me: Please Jensen, may you spare me a bit of Vram to help appease the hole in me wallet?
Jensen: The more you buy the more you save.
Me: But, me wallet...
Jensen: Be gone you filthy pheasant. I say begone with you!
Lol. these 50 series leaks really look dumber and dumber by the week.
Since AMD knew already 6 months ago that they wouldn't push for high end (they had a complicated MCM design that didn't pan out) Nvidia has had ample time to think "How can we screw people over the most, knowing there will be no top end competition AT ALL".
@@andersjjensen Thats not my point. My point is that these leaks are not believable at all. And you should definetely take em with the biggest grain of salt.
@@CrystronHalq I've been in this space for almost 30 years. For the last decade the "leaks" have pretty much been orchestrated by the manufacturers themselves to build hype and gauge customer reaction. This close to launch we pretty much always know all the basics. What's to be determined is final clock speed, TDP and pricing. Those are, incidentally, also the things the manufacturers can change on more or less a whim.
@@andersjjensenno offence but this doesn't generate hype lmfao. It generates an angry mob
@@lilpain1997 We know that 3GB variants of GDDR7 is being developed. So Nvidia has all the time in the world to launch this, let people be absolutely pissed while they sell a shit ton of AI professional accelerators at much better prices, then if AMD starts gaining some ground, launch a Super series with 1.5x the VRAM. People will gladly take 12GB 5060 Super , 18GB 5070 Super and 24GB 5080 Super.
Rtx 4070 is quite possibly my last nvidia card. No matter how good their dlss is.
Unfortunately we don’t have any choice, games are so unoptimised these days that you are pretty much forced to use upscaling, and DLSS is far superior to AMD’s FSR.
@@Rivexdinstead of using upscaling. You can always run ultra textures on 16gb amd cards and then use a mix of ultra/high and medium settings. I bet that looks better than upscaled ultra settings.
@@rohansharma5487 it doesn’t, at 4K DLSS on Quality makes no visual difference / even makes the image look better by adding the sharpening effect.
@@Rivexdtrue
I want to game at 1080 with very nice fps, I'm alright as long as it doesn't dip under 60, prices here are so bad that a 4060 seems like my best option for my very limited budget (I'll be paying it for a year), and i just learned about these, so now I'm hit by the "should i wait, save a bit more meanwhile and see if i can go for it" thoughts, or should i just not care about that and start enjoying now?
"The more you buy. . . "
the more you buy 😂
The more you save!
The greedier Jensen gets
The least you get.
5090 will be the most affordable budget card ever
the more you buy the more you save at its fullest xD
CEO math
next 80 will be a 60 class card 😭
@@lukz7600 the sad thing is, it will probably have the same ridiculous numbers in blender so I'll have to use it instead of something more sensible for the money
It’s the greatest and i will get it no matter the price
I bet Daniel becoming the cutest little pointer is why his wife loves him. Such a lucky woman.
"cutest little pointer" what does this mean? Really.
Just got an rx 6800 16gb, perfect 1440p gpu, 2450mhz core oc 980mv 2100mhz memory
Goated card
Lucky you man
That’s a great card
Enjoy man
You cant find them anymore, I was going to buy my mate one. Just buy the 7800xt in its place
5080 users gonna be forced to play at low textures in a couple years lmao. Imagine blaming devs about vram issues after buying anything other than a 5090, next generation.
I know the meme about "uNoPtImIzEd" ports is semi true, but this would not likely be devs fault. This would be Nvidia's fault.
Then again, I'm not surprised, given it may soon just be Intel's Arc GPUs getting competitive with Nvidia with AMD possibly sitting our the flagship race with the Radeon 8000 series. And we know what less competition does...
not low, but not ultra either...
Except 16GB of VRAM is more than enough to run the latest games at 4K max settings….
nah 16 is enough for the entire gen wich is expected till 2026 plus inter gen 2 years.... so it willbe fine till 2028 or so.
@camdustin9164 um no. Wasn't Allan wake 2 4k ultra, pathtrace 18gb vram?
Bought the 7900 gre for 499 pretty good
Yep, great price
@salvationbygracethroughfaith I agree it's expensive but tbh my used s23 was more it was 520 usd I'm newer to pc building started a year before covid
So nvidia is already planning on super duper, tie, pie cards?
Tie 👔 super duper tie 👔
I hope if Daniel ever needs that video segment with two Daniels again, he'll take it from this video, and we'll get three floating Daniels.
What did Japanese customers do to deserve only 1 game
Ask nintendo
Don't forget Pearl harbor
My read on this is that both AMD and Nvidia will pretty much have nothing worth upgrading to next generation unless you're in the market for a 5090. The only way I could see their being much value below that level is if the 50 series or the AMD equivalent is significantly cheaper than the 40 series at the same performance levels which I would be very surprised by. Personally, there's no way I'm buying anything with less than 16GB of VRAM. Someone needs to tell Nvidia that to most people, upgrade means it's faster than the current gen at the same price or it's cheaper than the current gen at the same performance level. If it costs more and performs the same, that's a downgrade, not an upgrade.
I miss the days, back in the 2010:s, when you could pick up a new XX80 card, for just $600, and every upgrade, was actually worth the money...
$600 in 2010 is about $800-$900 today adjusted for inflation. Probably closer to $900
Yeah those days are never coming back, and it's not just gpus.
@@TonyHerson $862.75 - that's 43.8%, has there ever been a cumulative inflation rise that high, in such a short span of time, outside of post WWI Germany?
With AMD being stuck in a rut this generation Nvidia has little to no reason to give a VRAM increase also get your wallets ready as this generation will be the most expensive one yet for models higher than a 70 series pretty sure that RTX5080 will be the RTX4090 replacement at a 1600$ price.
Yep this. 5080 will be at *most* as good as 4090D so they can sell it to china. Since that is the best they can buy at scale to build their own ai development, global price for this will be absurd again for people that want it for gaming.
5090 will just be byproduct for ai development, "be happy you can even buy a single one, plebs."
ram costs huang tree fiddy. stop apologizing for that greedy leather wearing used car salesman. amd could've put out a card faster than a 5090 and idiots would still buy nvidia and cry.
AMD needs to give the one guy who makes their drivers a raise
Highly doubt the 5080 will be 1600... It's going to be around the 950 to 1200 mark like the 4080 was.
This is true and makes sense but it just pure bs. I hate both of these companies. I might hate Intel more for AMD being trash this gen. Hard to say who deserves the most hate.
Told you the 7800x3d would still out perform them, that’s why they didn’t bench them
9000x3d is coming in a couple months afterwards.
It makes sense. V-Cache was such an ungodly boost on AM4 because it was at the end of realistic DDR4 speeds. DDR5 was a decent jump on it's own so the 7700X tied with the 5800X3D. AMD is still pushing 6000 as the default spec memory for Zen 5, so it's very reasonable that the 9700X will not entirely tie the 7800X3D.
@@andersjjensenwhat about the 9800x3d vs 7800x3d when it comes to
@@emma6648 I actually think the uplift from V-Cache could be a little bigger on Zen 5 over Zen 4, as a lot of Zen 5 is about increasing internal bandwidth.
Because the 7800x3D is pretty much black magic for gaming performance. They chocked the thing so full of L2 and L3 Cache; it's quite good despite being a relatively mid range chip speed wise.
The 9000x chips will have a considerably better workload perfomance, but without taking the dings to gaming. Now watch for the 9000x3D chips in September lol.
vote with your wallet. You do not have to buy Nvidia products. Then only will Nvidia understand
Must... Buy... 5060Ti...
Ngreedya will never learn as long as AI is making them bank they won't care about gamers
@@vincentnicolae9440 That's why we need to not buy their products.
They DO NOT care!
With all that AI money rolling in, "gamers" give them pennies :/
@@hubertET yup :=(
70 Class still 12GB. 60 Class 8GB. Those are RTX GPU... 70 class probably 800$ + and 400/500$ + for 60 class. Or Ampere paper game all over again, thanks to AI companies this time around. Almost no performances jump worth thw upgrade. I know it's so soon to speak but Nvidia it's doing it again. The more you buy ..
Imo, 8 GB of vRAM should be reserved for $230 RTX 4050 tier or lower GPUs. The fact that the RTX 3070 & 3070 Ti already hit vRAM limits and the RTX 3080 (with 10 GB) is next just worries me.
@@cameronbosch1213thats everyone's opinion
Yeah, I feel good having bought the 4080s at MSRP at launch. Ngreedia simply aren't willing to offer better value than that at the high end, so I'll pretend the 5000 series doesn't exist.
@@formulaic78but the 4080super was horrible as well??? AMD aren't any better but yeah
@@lilpain1997it's only horrible in that it should have cost 800 bucks instead of 1000 (and they tried charging 1200 for the first year of its life). It's a tremendous card otherwise.
You can blame all the Nvidia fanboys and their cope - defending a trillion dollar company and buying a 12gb card for a $600 🤦🏻
Why would Nvidia change?
It is not Nvidia's job to change, but rather AMD and Intel to respond with a good enough product to compete. Right now any card that is worth in any price bracket is Nvidia. AMD has consoles and Intel is there, I gues...
They compete no one just wants to buy even if it is a good value. Of course after the 4080 there is no competition with the 4090, the 7900xt and 4070 ti on the other hand are very competitive. Atleast I see the value since I have never cared about ray tracing so standard performance is more important to me. But doesn't matter if the 7900xt may be 100 or even 200 dollars off people will still buy a 4070ti because nvidia, then I hear them complain it's expensive😐
i can pretty much see your angry crying zoomer wojak face from here "noooooo you can't just buy well featured nvidia cards, nooooooo you're not supposed to care about RT and cuda nooooo, you need a space heater with 50gb vram so you can play vr skyrim porn mods for the next decade like me"
Nvidia could release a 5060 8gb at $600, and it would still waaay outsell anything AMD could put out just from the name it seems.
$800 initially
Quite an interesting news series, thanks Daniel.
Sadly we aren't going to get VRAM increases until 3GB VRAM chips start becoming mainstream
@@coucoach3342 Plausible
Yeh, a 5060 with a 9Gb vram instead of 8Gb can't wait
@@Mr.Heister 12GB, if 3GB/32bit
PC gamer math LOL
@@Oz-gv5fzI could see them going with 9gb on a 96 bit bus. Would not put it past Nvidia to cut the memory bus and call it a “refresh”
NVIDIA should just stop producing GPUs and be more honest about their disdain for gamers.
they have been honest. The pricing of the 40 series, the gimping of the memory bus, their recent key note that addressed nothing but AI. They have been honest with you for years now. Another 2-3 generations of cards and we won't have "gaming'" cards anymore.
At this point you can say "nvidia gpu also happen able to be used for gaming" . They call it 'gaming' card but most of the revenue no longer coming from gamer. Why did you think AMD gaming revenue was down 48% while nvidia was up 18%? So right now some minority of their gpu user (gamers) making the most noise about expensive price.
They were honest in their computex presentation, it's just ai ai ai, and GPU for ai
seems kind of meh but I bet the price won't be.
U remember when they used to bundle game disks with everything? I think i got deus ex and mdk2 with my soundblaster card back in the day! Heck they would throw in games with cd rom drives
And here I was hoping to upgrade next gen, guess am gonna be waiting for another one.......
5070 12 gb vram gg
in 2025 also lol
doesn't make me feel so bad for getting a 4070 super lol
plenty even for 4K
Get a job@@GewelReal
@@GewelReal Have you seen all these new games having memory leaks? 12gb is over
8GB vram is not enough I own a 3060 ti modded to 16gb (with some minor issues like overclocking is a must) I can tell you the card performs better even in FHD.
How did you mod your 3060ti to have 16GB?
@@Foxxnioxx A friend of mine did it , I'm more of a software guy , there is a video on youtube by a brazilian he did it on the 3070 (same gpu die as the 3060 ti)
@@Foxxnioxxdesoldering old memory chips, soldering new ones is my guess
@@Foxxnioxx It's not hard to do so. 3060 Ti has 256-bit so you can desolder the old 1GB memory modules and replace them with 2GB so you get 8 x 2GB instead of 8 x 1GB.
can i do this with a 4060? dont i need custom gpu bios and some soldering experience
I dont wanna be a smart ass but that was the main reason why I bought a 7900xtx a few months ago. When I pay premium, I expect premium for years to come. And I most certainly dont wanna become a marketing guinea pig for a billion dollar company and their experiments of "how far can we go with the private consumer?"
i'll stick with my 3080, most new games look like shit (besides doom: the dark ages but idtech is well optimized). Maybe when the GTA 6 port comes to PC i'll upgrade to a 6090
in 2026 so plenty of time
a 6090? i mean - maybe if i start saving now
" idtech is well optimized"
doom eternal run on opengl and vulkan, now that they are owned by microsoft, they gonna force them to use dx12.
Just run on 1440p, not that different from 4k anyway.
@@JojoJoget I agree that 1440p is adequate and that is what I use, but 4k is 2.4 times the pixels, so you can't really say it's not that different.
The first gen of gddr7 will be with 16GBits (Like the gddr6 chips) and 48, if the second ones are used with the 50 series you could have 24gb on 256 and, more importantly 18 on 192, which could alleviate a bit the memory capacity situation
Im sure they'll come out with dlss 5 or w.e. count we're on, incompatible with previous gen cards ofc, and keep the latest and greatest buyers happy 😊
Lmao they’re gonna sell like hotcakes, and nvidia is gonna hype up DLSS 3
And all those gb of vram are gonna go straight onto the 5090s and quadros and AI GPUs
Low end RTX 5000: Dead on arrival
When you became the mouse cursor around 7:38, I lost it 🤣🤣😆
that time with rx5600 with mhw icebrone and RE3 remake was the greatest
i hope there will be bundle with mh wild, mw3 or diablo 4 with expansion
RX 6750 XT is going for 299 if you on a budget you don't have a better option Next gen from AMD or Nvidia won't offer more VRAM or significant performance.
I found a 6800xt for 320$ used
I would bet money that Nvidia will do what they did with the 4060 Ti, but for more of the lineup. They'll offer two sets of cards, one with not enough vram, the other that's too expensive.
I know Nvidia doesn't care about gamers but they've gotta have seen the backlash last gen.... Right?.... RIGHT!?!?
I have heard rumors that gddr7 could have 1.5 gb memory chips, which would allow for example a 128 bit bus to facilitate 12gb of vram.
Seeing how the newer gen cards are not going to be value buys, I'm still happy because that would mean cheaper rx 6000 and rtx 40 series cards on the used market.
I think my plan is to skip everything this generation. Ill rock the 7800x3d and 4080S until at least the 60 series and maybe the zen 6 x3d cpu.
Yeah same. Going to start saving for the 6090.
I dont see why you would even need an upgrade at all. 4080 , at least for gaming is pretty much everything you need for the next 5 years
@@xa4243 mostly because I enjoy the pc building part of the hobby honestly. I always feel like tinkering with my computers.
how are you enjoying that build? I've been on the fence about getting a 4080S or a 4070tiS and that's the same processor I'm getting. What kind of performance are you seeing on games?
Most of the newer single player games are somewhere around 100 to 150 fps at 4k. Depending on settings and upscalers. It also runs extremely cool because most of the 4080 supers use a 4090 cooler. Honestly the 4070 ti super is probably better value and really isnt much worse than the 4080. So just depends on budget and if you want the most fps you can or want better cost per frame.
This feels like a reaction to AMD not even releasing high-end RDNA 4 cards. Why make the 5080 and below more powerful than they need to be when you can nerf them, they'll still be faster than AMD's offerings and more people will be tempted to splurge for the 5090 for the real generational uplift?
It does not matter what AMD releases, nvidia competes with itself.
@@dagnisnierlins188 And my point was that Nvidia appears to be nerfing most of their stack so that it doesn't compete with itself (i.e. the 5090).
do not forget, they go first for ai server gpus, this market for them is not1% of their earnings, of course it will be like how you say if not worse
I wonder if this indicates Ngreedia's offering around a small (around 10-15% improvement.) for the same or probably an increase in price. Be prepared for a 5070 at $600 with 12GB mem at little or no improvement in performance except for slightly faster RT and new exclusive DLSS version.
👍👍👍 Thumbnail game is on point 👍👍👍
8GB of VRAM in 2025 🤡
NGreedia
NVidia will use 8GB VRAM till 2030
Honk honk hyte y60 with 40 4090s and a 1080p 60hz 12" stretch bar monitor coming thru honk honk
5080 looks like trash. If that ends up being the case I would gladly give AMD or intel my money rather than Nshittya. I've had it with Jensen. I cant go an inch further with him and his bullshit.
Strange they only have the 7700xt and 7800xt bundled but not the 7900 series for the game bundles
Was planning to wait for a 5070 but with all these leaks and the fact it’s coming out later in 2025 not sure if I should just go for a 4070 super at Christmas time or a ps5 pro whenever it’s out later this year. Also I currently have a 6700xt BUT keep in mind it was free because of an error with amazon
I have a 4070 Super, and it's a great card. The price to performance is great for 7900GRE.
If you want something sharp go for 4070Ti Super or 7900XT/XTX.
Sitting on a 1650 super with an 7800x3d…been waiting for the 5000 series but now with this news… what do you do
Get ur hands on 4090, it's crazy how fast it is! You already have cpu for it
Price/performance 7900GRE or 4070 Super are both great. If you aim higher look for sales of 7900XT and 4070Ti Super.
Get amd 6k series, 7800/7900 GRE. Many good options. If you get your hands on 6750 or 6800, that's a massive upgrade for a great deal.
The more you buy the more you crave 😢
It's just like a dope fiend
Thought this was a MLID video for a sec from the notification lol
There are lots of games that run faster on 5800x3d than 7700x so i dont think anyone should be that surprised. The x3d uplift is likely going to be better because theyll be able to keep clocks higher compared to the 7800x3d so you can expect a larger uplift with x3d as compared to 5800x3d and 7800x3d. 9800x3d is going to come pretty quick to compete with intels next releases.
Couldn’t they just use the new GDDR7 3GB modules (instead of 2GB ones used on 40 series)?
then with the same bus width the memory capacity would go up by x1.5
8gb->12gb
12gb->18gb
16gb->24gb
so rtx 5060 is gonna be 8gb again?
Apparently those chips were not ready in time and might not be yet.
@@reichfrog2Probably for the 90 & 80 series. However, as for the 70 & 60 series GPU's which will be released later on in 2025, then they could just about make the cut when it comes to using 3GB modules.
My guess is they'll still be using 2GB though, with Nvidia possibly holding back using the 3GB variant until their later Ti or super models. Obviously, that extra boost to VRAM could then be used as a selling point for them.
They could but 3gb chips are not done yeat… Maybe future update. But i expect 6060 to use 96bit memory bus and 9gb or vram… so an upgrade in vram size!
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Yes, this is most likely what is happening
Bro wtf the RTX 5050 is going to be on 6GB???
The gaming experience will be like the feeling on the toilet after drinking beer and eating only peanuts with chilli for two days straight. The more you buy...?
@@D4Z3D_ The more you save.
When will the 50 series available to us?
GDDR7 may have larger per chip memory?
That game bundle is actually a sick deal if you want 2 of those games and get the $500 GRE (if applicable)
Amd is still over charging for the rx 7800xt/rx 7900 gre it's a shame
@jasonvors169 they're not badly priced. I'd say around €50 to €100 price cut should make them viable. 7900xt is also still overpriced.
@@NineS5 900$ msrp was WILD now at 700$
@@NineS5 Rx 7900 gre is basically a rebaged Rx 6950xt
There will be 3gb GDDR7 chips, so cards with 128bit bus will have 12gb
192bit 18GB
Hynix already confirmed they are working on 16/24gbit GDDR7 chips
But they're not tracked for launch until next year. So Nvidia will do another Super refresh. This time to fix VRAM instead core spec and pricing.
@@andersjjensen micron definetly has 3gb in production
Imma gone on ahead and wait for that 9900x3d baby.
Daniel really experimenting with these thumbnails lol
Game engines need to actually spend more than zero effort on optimizing their engines.
Game engines are actually masterfully optimized, graphics are simply getting more demanding.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Why are they getting more demanding if they aren't getting prettier? Most current games lose in graphics to some games from 2016
@@anitaremenarova6662Hogwart got its memory leak fixed recently, the same with some other games...
@@K1L0W0GBecause the art style often sucks and they think that an automated process like ray tracing will compensate for carefully crafted lighting through probes and bakes.
blackwell has no limit in SM's per die...since maximum number per chiplet is 204 SM's. TO nvidia , they see no point releasing anything higher than 192 SM's when RDNA4 and RNDA5 is complete dud to gamers ....
the big questio is also will the 40 series be cheapper than the 50 series?prop not cause am still on my RTX 3060 and i wanna buy something above 4070 but man they are way to expencive
I'm reminded of going from Kepler to Maxwell.
On paper, Maxwell was a big downgrade from Kepler, but Nvidia doubled or even triple the L2 cache from Kepler, and also added Delta Color Compression support, so best case scenario, you could hypothetically get as much as a 50% boost in bandwidth vs what was on paper (as an example, the 960 had less shaders than the 760, and only a 128-bit bus, but it sometimes performed as though it had a 192-bit bus. It was also an overclockers dream as you could easily add as much as an extra 500mhz to the core, and it still ran ice cold).
So 5090 is 32gb while 5080 is still 16gb
No.
@@HanSolo__Yes.
@@HanSolo__ funny rtx 3050 have 20SM like goinna have ... 5060 so thats mean both card gonna have 2560 Shading Units ..... 3060 had 28SM and 4060 24SM
This is not good but i never cared for anything under the 90 series since 2020 have had 3090 since then best purchase since 1080ti hoping the 5090 will be similar or less in price because currently the rtx 4090 can range from 2000 to 3100 depending on the model that right there is a scam. Every 2nd to 3rd gen will have to be it now i cannot justify spending 2k on a gpu for it to last 2 years need atleast 4 or more xd. I gotta say im very hyped for the 5090 real reviews until then i will keep reasonable expectations..
fucking rich people, man
Company of Heroes 3 + Avatar
Very informative. Thank u professor
If all future PC or laptop platforms require snapshots like recall, I will 'halt and catch fire' every board I can get out hands on. "Hello jackrabbit"
4:00 bus width is just memory width, and bigger memory width doesn't mean higher capacity of (VRAM) memory..
Technically, but based on previous gen cards, for 128 bit bus width, it will be 4 memory chips sold onto the pcb, 192 bit will be 6, 256 bit will be 8, 384 bit will be 12, 512 bit will be 16
Or, they can put 8 memory chips on 128 bit bus width, but will they? Definitely no
And they won’t use 4gb memory chips I guess
YEAH IT'S THE THROUGHPUT DANIEL YOU ARE USUALLY REALLY GOOD BUT THIS IS TOTALLY OFF IN THIS VIDEO ITS CAP
@waitwhat1320 Less VRAM only hurts if you need the extra capacity, while having a narrower bus hurts across the board. It's not the same. And yes, Nvidia artificially gimps their cards for profit, because they can. Otherwise prosumers would buy gaming GPUs / they'd need to innovate more than necessary. Saving a couple of bucks on production while keeping us thirsty.
Some say if you comment early enough, Daniel will bake you a tray of cookies in the shape of a gpu. It's a legendary tale by the community is it true?
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I'm pretty new to learning about GPUs. If the memory is faster, does that mean less VRAM will get filled during tasks since data can be loaded and offloaded more quickly? I know the 4060 was a huge disappointment with 4gb less VRAM than the 3060. When looking at benchmarks, the 4060 still outpaced the 3060 in most games though.
That's exactly how it is, dont buy into RUclipsrs nonsense! Do your own research 😊
GDDR7 is still an improvement though, I can't wait for the benchmarks and prices... We might be in for a ride haha!
I'm so disappointed that the 80 class is so cut down, which should also be for gaming enthusiasts. They didn't learn from the 4080 sales?
Yes your 6060 will have 1KB of VRAM and cost $3000. *sigh* Surely the cavalcade of PC games that need you to reduce texture quality settings compared to consoles that in their entirety cost half what your GPU costs would have been a wakeup call that they at least need to continue to add VRAM so you're having gamers pay through the nose for cards that can't match console performance, or can't handle high resolutions or RTX features without being severely resource starved. At this point if it wasn't for the DLSS genuinely being markedly better than the alternatives I don't think I'd have looked back once from getting an AMD card. Worse RT performance means very little when you can only turn on RT with the resolution and other graphics settings turned down to make enough room in the memory.
Got the 6900 XT and never looked back. Software tricks are nice but come at a cost of higher imput lag and/or worse overall image quality. They won't ever fully make up for the lack of VRAM.
2000 series repeats again.
8GB cards on the lower end and 12GB cards in mid end in 2025 is fucking criminal.
im hoping gddr7 brings a big enough upgrade to make an upgrade worth it
It's possible with new memory chip capacities to have more memory on these buses without clamshelling two chips. Supposedly these new capacities will come with GDDR7, but that has yet to be demonstrated. That aside, the specs on the 5080 and below are fucking horrible.
Won't be buying any then.
Not worth the money.
Does not matter! Other people will buy!
@@haukikannel No they won't.
@@Jeff-cn9up
Did you know that NVIDIA market Share has ingressed from 82% to 88%…. People do!
Love the thumbnail hahaha
So should I be getting a 4090 and not wait for the 50 series???
Man walks into a bar and says "we need more leaks and rumours."
There is enough of those types of crappy channels around. Lets keep things real on this one.
@@Killswitch1411 yeah it was kind of a joke, hey ho.
@@russhodgson5209 yeah can't really get a context of a joke with not even a inkling of this is a joke lol.
@@Killswitch1411 edited for your help.
8 gb in 2025 and yet nvidia fanboys will still buy it
Yep 😅
Cause it will work out of the box or won’t price drop by 30-40% in a couple of months
@@youssefmohammed5456 "work out of the box" 🤯
@@gamesk6476 yeah imagine how bad amd has it when just working becomes a feature
@@youssefmohammed5456 what do you mean work out of the box? Amd doesn’t have problems
Keep in mind there's a chance for higher density GDDR7 modules than 2GB, so the VRAM could possibly be higher, but not at first (I believe it's 2GB initially), and it's also Nvidia, so...
What software does Daniel use to make himself become the mouse cursor and drag himself around his screen real time? 😁
Yeah I am going with a 4080 super, the 50 series not increasing the vram is just ridiculous.
Skip the 50 series. Seriously.
So they showing the 60 and 60ti class with 8gb again or will they just release a 16gb Model only
8Gb is enough!
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Maybe 16gb model with extra 100 bucks!
@@haukikannel yeah not it isn't. Even 12gb is pushing near full usage in many games
I got an rx 7600 last december and although I didnt purchase from a participating vendor, I contacted AMD directly and got a free Frontiers of Pandora copy.
Considering prices in my country for tech are fvcked, its nice that the 300usd I spent for it went down to just 240 because of the free game.
With the current promo, that's like shaving down 120 to 140usd on top of how low priced 7800xt's and 7700xt's are.
1 view in 14 seconds, dude felll off
Well the front fell off
ur dad fell off the roof