Who are the Polish Haitians?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @synkkamaan1331
    @synkkamaan1331 3 года назад +1549

    My man slaying that Polish pronunciation!

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 года назад +58

      I would say that it's decent

    • @richlisola1
      @richlisola1 3 года назад +67

      @@KAESowicz Yeah, slaying means good, it’s slang

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  3 года назад +134

      Haha thanks man! Doing my best eh ;)

    • @MaciejBogdanStepien
      @MaciejBogdanStepien 3 года назад +32

      @@historywithhilbert yup. 9.6 out of 10 (where 0.3 out of 10 is the YT average)

    • @grandsome1
      @grandsome1 3 года назад +21

      His French is on point too.

  • @rapportbuildingfirst8695
    @rapportbuildingfirst8695 3 года назад +1064

    Fun side note, Australia's highest mountain is named 'Mt Kosciuszko' after the Polish hero. It was named by Polish explorer Paul Strzelecki (who also gets a mountain chain named after him in the country) in 1840..., Poland may have been off the map at the time but Polish heritage was still alive and well.

    • @warreneckels4945
      @warreneckels4945 3 года назад +44

      Poles overseas were sometimes known as living in the Fourth Partition.

    • @wiktorco
      @wiktorco 3 года назад +3

      Kościuszko
      Kości - Bones
      uszko is a diminutive of the word ucho - ear

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 года назад +93

      @@wiktorco Sorry, but that's an accidental false etymology. The surname Kościuszko is of East Slavic (Belarusian, if I may use bit anachronistic terminology) origin and was first a diminutive nickname derived from the name Konstanty, as was one of his ancestors called.

    • @mikikulesza
      @mikikulesza 3 года назад +22

      @@wiktorco xDDD as a pole I find this hilarious

    • @Litwinus
      @Litwinus 3 года назад +41

      There is an old Polish proverb-: Where the devil cannot, he will send a Pole "

  • @sontatanga54
    @sontatanga54 3 года назад +709

    İ read about Polish soldiers in Russian army fleeing and joining the Caucasian resistance against Tsar. God bless Polish people and respect from an Abkhazian. And ofc the Polish warrior Janusz Godava who raised the first Abkhazian flag in Sukhumi at 1993.

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek 3 года назад +112

      Where there was a revolution, there were Poles

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 года назад +37

      @@niepowaznyczlowiek based

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  3 года назад +37

      Interesting! Haven't heard much about this before but will take a look.

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 года назад +13

      @@historywithhilbert Waiting on a video 🤠

    • @ConorMcgregor322
      @ConorMcgregor322 3 года назад +1

      Abkhazians are usually pro-Russian, given the current status of the region. Do you support independence or reintegration into Georgia?

  • @noulafrantz8589
    @noulafrantz8589 Год назад +105

    Great content I am Haitian respect to the Poland 🇵🇱 people for helping haiti 🇭🇹 won their independence no one in this world no matter what color you are should be slave

    • @baird5682
      @baird5682 Год назад +12

      Hehe, as a Polish I give you a Slav pass. :D

    • @machovalkarie7896
      @machovalkarie7896 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@baird5682as a hatian thank you for the slav pass in ezchange I give u the n word pass

    • @overlord1995
      @overlord1995 7 месяцев назад +2

      The word slave comes from the word Slav. Slavery was not about race, it was all about easy targets

    • @iiiZokage
      @iiiZokage 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@machovalkarie7896Haitians don't say the n word. That's English 😂

    • @Miroslawkrynda6477
      @Miroslawkrynda6477 2 месяца назад

      ​@@overlord1995 for normal people all over the world for thousands of years it wasnt, but obviously the cringe westerners and north Americans just had to be special and self-righteous and try to come up with a stupid justification for why when **they** do it, it's good actually

  • @joanignasi91
    @joanignasi91 3 года назад +957

    I find it fascinating that seemingly unrelated peoples due to a set specific circumstances managed to find common cause, I would love to hear more about other people like that in the future.

    • @419prince
      @419prince 3 года назад +100

      @Zoomer Waffen "civilians", more like slave owners

    • @419prince
      @419prince 3 года назад +62

      @Zoomer Waffen too edgy bro, don't cut someone🥶

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 года назад +46

      @Zoomer Waffen Ohh poor little Slave owners all they did was kill and exploit people bcuz of skin color😭😭

    • @raguelelnaqum
      @raguelelnaqum 3 года назад +47

      @Zoomer Waffen ​ You do realize that that the French slave owners repeatedly massacred their own non-rebelling slaves, as well as non-enslaved blacks, just to punitively punish the community for the actions of a few in the early years of the conflict? It's why the rebellion gained steam amongst the black Freedmen despite several owning slaves themselves initially. These weren't innocents, as much as a slave owner can be 'innocent'. Because they weren't just slavers, they were mass murderers.

    • @sontatanga54
      @sontatanga54 3 года назад +14

      @Zoomer Waffen what is your problem waffle?

  • @theodoreroosevelt3143
    @theodoreroosevelt3143 3 года назад +471

    Polish viewer here, i appreciate a lot that you try to do nice pronunciation of polish surnames.
    i know it's hard but you do it quite well, thank you a lot, it's very cute of you

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 года назад +19

      I say that his polish pronunciation is good.
      I think that it's hard to demand more for English speaking youtuber.
      Considering how hard Polish pronunciation is for English speaking people it's very nice that he put an effort to pronounce it so well.

    • @kurzges4105
      @kurzges4105 3 года назад +11

      @@KAESowicz I think he's actually dutch which would somewhat help with pronunciation

    • @ReaperCH90
      @ReaperCH90 3 года назад +9

      @@kurzges4105 yeah, he is dutch, but he hides it very well and would never put in any reference to the Netherlands unless he really has tom

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  3 года назад +36

      Dziękuję! Glad it wasn't too terrible ;)

    • @pfdrtom
      @pfdrtom 3 года назад +6

      Greetings from Cestohowa, Texas!

  • @jaysonemile6633
    @jaysonemile6633 3 года назад +342

    Im Haitian american and my dad says we have some polish blood. He is from cazale haiti and a lot of people from my dads side do look different from the average Haitian. So I took a DNA test and get my results in about 2 weeks I might make a video about my results

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 3 года назад +35

      Greetings from Poland

    • @jaysonemile6633
      @jaysonemile6633 3 года назад +60

      So I got my results in in total I am 22% European. Which is crazy to me I did not think I had that much. But none of it was from Poland 😪.

    • @ntavlas
      @ntavlas 3 года назад +81

      @@jaysonemile6633 Poland was full of minorities at the time, I would believe what the family tells you, rather than the genes test indicating something else. Greatgrandfather was a Hungarian, greatgrandmother Jewish, there was a mix of scandinavian blood, but they would call themselves Poles and thats what mattered.

    • @jaysonemile6633
      @jaysonemile6633 3 года назад +20

      Ok my European admixture consists of 6% Ireland, 6% French, 6% Portugal, 2% Wales, 1 Balkans region and 1 England and north Western Europe.
      They updated my results and I am 9% wales and %8 France 2% basque and 2% Ireland and 1% Sardinia .

    • @user-mc5vy2vk5n
      @user-mc5vy2vk5n 3 года назад +44

      @@jaysonemile6633 nevermind, if you respect us, you can identify as partially Polish, maybe even we are gonna adopt you and feed with gołąbki and barszcz czerwony. 😜😂

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 года назад +498

    This is such an awesome video, even better than I expected.
    I might add two random fun facts:
    1. Polish General Władysław Franciszek Jabłonowski, who died in Haiti from yellow fever in 1802 was in an ironic twist of fate half-Black himself (look it up).
    2. Polish soldiers appeared in Haiti yet again in 1994, as the special forces unit GROM took part in Operation Uphold Democracy.

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek 3 года назад +27

      I actually didn't know that, thanks for the fun facts

    • @historywithhilbert
      @historywithhilbert  3 года назад +70

      Bardzo dziękuję Artur! Very happy to hear you enjoyed the video and many thanks for the extra info - I did find out about General Jabłonowski in my research but didn't managed to add him in the end - funny how these things play out eh.

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 3 года назад +24

      Jablownski went to France's elite military academy L'Ecole Militaire with Napoleon

    • @PR_nick
      @PR_nick 3 года назад +16

      @@historywithhilbert He was first black skin general i Europe.

    • @InteloPL
      @InteloPL 3 года назад +5

      And refused to do the whole-armor nonsense - to gain respect and trust of the locals they just used uniforms and weapons, most of the time no amor.

  • @stanleydouge2803
    @stanleydouge2803 3 года назад +375

    That’s probably why on my ancestry test I had some Slavic DNA I’m Haitian that’s interesting the government need to invest more in Cazale

    • @D0omC0okie
      @D0omC0okie 3 года назад +55

      Word, I never did an ancestry test, but my great grandma’s last name was lauvinski, till today I never knew why

    • @soreveruss2350
      @soreveruss2350 3 года назад +57

      so probably your grandmother have polish ancestors. Lauvinski is pro english version of polish last name "Lałwiński" greating from Cracow

    • @D0omC0okie
      @D0omC0okie 3 года назад +16

      @@soreveruss2350 I have to do more research on my ancestry, thanks for that. greetings from SF 🤩

    • @MsFrancois1
      @MsFrancois1 3 года назад +14

      Is your family from the Valley of Jacmel? I believe that was one of the areas Polish soldiers settled in.

    • @colonellKurtz
      @colonellKurtz 3 года назад +22

      🇵🇱🤝🇭🇹

  • @hgfw9295
    @hgfw9295 3 года назад +275

    I'm just happy Polish soldiers demonstrated their disagreenment with slavery and switched the colours into Haitian. Really proud of that!

    • @bartoszk4299
      @bartoszk4299 3 года назад +6

      Not only that. Kościuszko, when he was going back from USA told Jefferson to sell his land and use the money to buy as many slaves as he could, set them free and provide education and homes for them.
      5th day of May 1798
      I Thaddeus Kosciuszko being just in my departure from America do hereby declare and direct that should I make no other testamentory disposition of my property in the United States I hereby authorise my friend Thomas Jefferson to employ the whole thereof in purchasing Negroes from among his own or any others and giving them Liberty in my name, in giving them en education in trades or othervise and in having them instructed for their new condition in the duties of morality which may make them good neigh bours good fathers or moders, husbands or vives and in their duties as citisens teeching them to be defenders of their Liberty and Country and of the good order of Society and in whatsoever may Make them happy and useful, and I make the said Thomas Jefferson my executor of this

    • @deepthoughts8393
      @deepthoughts8393 2 года назад

      Polish people are always the unsung hero’s

    • @tomexor
      @tomexor 2 года назад +44

      Because we don't beg for freedom... we fight for it..!!!! God bless Haiti 🇭🇹 🙏 ❤️

    • @tomexor
      @tomexor 2 года назад +4

      @Bon cade Whatever Man... all the best 4 U and your fammily.

    • @tomexor
      @tomexor 2 года назад +2

      @Bon cade where you from Mate?

  • @Mattteus
    @Mattteus 3 года назад +99

    So the Polish helped the independence of Haiti and the US. Pretty cool

    • @Mattteus
      @Mattteus 3 года назад +1

      @Zoomer Waffen Argentina?

    • @Mattteus
      @Mattteus 3 года назад

      @Zoomer Waffen …and?

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek 3 года назад +11

      Also participated in many other revolutions

    • @flamandzrumem6053
      @flamandzrumem6053 3 года назад +7

      @Zoomer Waffen you think you are racist? I can be way more racist than you will ever be

    • @aco9880
      @aco9880 3 года назад

      @Zoomer Waffen say hello to Jamal from me, I heard he got himself 3 german wives

  • @Dan-yr7zn
    @Dan-yr7zn 3 года назад +158

    You should do a video of the Polish-Chinese state of Jaxa, its absolutely bizarre and greatly interesting but almost never mentioned in history.

    • @PawcioFski
      @PawcioFski Год назад +4

      That is a new one! I appreciate the recommendation.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      ​@@PawcioFskisearch on, the great deceit: the polish legion in Haiti. 4500 out of the 5000 polish legion died in the battlefield.500 had surrendered in cap-haitian. only the account from the winner is accurate.not the other way around.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      ​@@PawcioFskiask yourself this question, did the french had trouble coping in Guadeloupe, Martinique, Trinidad, st Lucia, and west Africa? the answer is no.their only claimed trouble with yellow fever in only one place where they were defeated not once, but twice, and that place is Haiti. yellow fever is a save face story. why would anybody begged to stay in a place that you have 98 percent chances of dying from yellow fever?

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      This is not accurate

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      ​@@PawcioFskiand about the french force Haiti to pay to recognized Haiti independence is false. France had 12 of his ally's sided with them and threatened Haiti with gunboats diplomacy, which means to stay offshore and chicken fight

  • @Darkdragon5544
    @Darkdragon5544 3 года назад +101

    Hello from Montreal
    Haitian community is huge in Montreal, it was a thing that really got me wondering: What do some have Slavic/Polish surnames. You demistified it for me 🙂

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад +1

      The great deceit: the polish legion in Haiti.

    • @ennvee1989
      @ennvee1989 3 месяца назад

      Never seen a haitian with a polish surname...I'm Haitian myself

  • @SurMikasMetin2PL
    @SurMikasMetin2PL 3 года назад +356

    Make a film about the "Polish king of Madagascar" - also the local people proclaimed him their king. A very interesting story :P

    • @nimai7074
      @nimai7074 3 года назад +6

      He wasn't Polish, Móric Beňovský was of Slovak heritage

    • @nimai7074
      @nimai7074 3 года назад +25

      It is likely that he labeled himself as both a Pole and a Hungarian due to the concept of a Slovak culture not really existing at that time and because his father was a Slav, although living deep in Slovakia, was labeled as a Pole, being the closest Slavic culture to assign him to. But nonetheless, his father was born in Slovakia, lived in Slovakia and served in the Austrian army, his mother was a Hungarian noblewoman, so he was half-slovak and half-hungarian

    • @SurMikasMetin2PL
      @SurMikasMetin2PL 3 года назад +58

      @@nimai7074 Maurycy Beniowski - described himself as a Pole and a Hungarian, so you are probably wrong

    • @Mijn24
      @Mijn24 3 года назад +1

      @@nimai7074 was he bad? I can’t find too much information about him but Poland hasn’t had any official colonies

    • @nimai7074
      @nimai7074 3 года назад +19

      @@Mijn24 No, he wasn't bad at all, he was a successful explorer and arguably his biggest achievement was being elected as the first King of Madagascar by the local tribe leaders, there's even a statue of him in Madagascar

  • @yvanguillaume8975
    @yvanguillaume8975 3 года назад +98

    Excellent historical research. I've seen various videos about Cazale and was stunned to see the Polish descendants who are now purely Haitians in their mannerisms , I left the country in 1981. Haiti has as much of a rich history as its share of unfortunate trouble.

  • @arthurimona5901
    @arthurimona5901 3 года назад +72

    Dang this was nice. I'm not polish by heritage, but definitely by heart. I came to really admire their intelligence and courage during their oppression by hitler, however i'm learning a lot more, and it just makes me proud of them. We even have a highway called Boluminski Highway on the island of New Ireland (probably the oldest in Papua New Guinea). Boluminski of course, obviously is a polish name. Great video! Much love from Polska!

  • @rogerdines6244
    @rogerdines6244 3 года назад +124

    This definitely will bear a second viewing, but thank you so much for digging around in such an obscure corner of history: the sad history of both Haiti and Poland deserve to be better known.

  • @ragnargrabson1287
    @ragnargrabson1287 3 года назад +39

    Super interesting video. Poles learned how to adopt and improvise in order to survive thanks to its complicated and quite often tragic history. It is not incident that Polish anthem states: "Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła póki my żyjemy" or "Poland has not died yet while we are alive."

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 3 года назад +451

    “The oppressed, instead of striving for liberation, tend themselves to become oppressors.”
    - Paulo Freire

    • @matheusalves5160
      @matheusalves5160 3 года назад +21

      Wise man, the sad truth of power

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 года назад +26

      Revenge vs forgiveness. One is easier than the others

    • @Gala-yp8nx
      @Gala-yp8nx 3 года назад +6

      Soviet Russia case and point.

    • @vestty5802
      @vestty5802 3 года назад +47

      Common amongst every immigrant group fleeing persecution. From Scots highlanders , French huegenots and Irish Catholics all of whom fled persecution but persecuted the natives of the country to which they fled

    • @vestty5802
      @vestty5802 3 года назад +30

      @Zoomer Waffen found a 13 year old nazi edgelord don’t worry kid I was there once too lmao

  • @rodgachelin5998
    @rodgachelin5998 2 года назад +33

    As a Haitian American with Polish ancestry (through my Dad's side of the family in the town of Fond des Blancs, this was a great video! More video like this one is vital to learning the FULL history, not just the cliff note version. Thanks again! Great video!

  • @LordBitememan
    @LordBitememan 3 года назад +116

    If and when you are so inclined to return to the topic it might be interesting to hear about the Polish (and Hungarian) volunteers in the American Revolution, given your mention of Kosciusko.

  • @christiangerard1
    @christiangerard1 3 года назад +68

    few clarifications from a Haitian here:
    - Wouj: refers to this lighter slightly clayish tone that people with European ancestry in the Caribbean will have often. it's mostly an old differentiator that survived as a descriptive term. it varies in shade. it also as it was mentioned below does probably refer to how the whites looked being in the hot sun all day back in the 19th century before their kids would be born with extra pigment and it survived from there, redefined every generation to match what further mixing ended up looking like down the line.
    - Blan/white: in Haiti doesn't really refer to race exclusively but to provenance most often. we do call white people "blan" but black people from anywhere else are also "blan". Also side note we don't actually think people become black because of the sun or by immersion, although aware of race we don't really spend the majority of our time focused on people's race but rather their social allegiances, motivations and interests (monetary or otherwise). Fun fact, Haitian administrative documents don't ever ask to identify race, only nationality.
    Map fe Krakow: to do something neatly, more specifically refers to to be precise and disciplined (some say like the germans/polish are said to be)

    • @lr44x13
      @lr44x13 3 года назад +7

      "wouj" sounds really simmilar to polish "róż" which means pink.

    • @tariuskosmos2969
      @tariuskosmos2969 3 года назад

      Well said brother

    • @supernt7852
      @supernt7852 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@lr44x13’wouj’ comes from the French word ‘rouge’ that means red, which sounds the same as róż in Polish except that French uses a difference R sound

  • @Klauserasme
    @Klauserasme 3 года назад +341

    fun fact:haiti is the first country to regonize greece independence from the ottoman empire the president at the time (petion) provided coffee to finance the war with the ottoman

    • @isaiahfraser2968
      @isaiahfraser2968 3 года назад +38

      @Zoomer Waffen no

    • @Klauserasme
      @Klauserasme 3 года назад +54

      @Zoomer Waffen nah more like french genocide

    • @RealMothman98
      @RealMothman98 3 года назад +64

      @Zoomer Waffen Being a racist twat is entirely unnecessary. Did the Haitians genocide whites in Haiti? Yes. No one is arguing this fact. However, Western Europeans also committed genocide against the Africans on their own continent. There exists no people group on Earth with clean hands. The point of studying history is to understand past mistakes to build better futures. The men and women who committed such acts are long dead, let the hatred die with them.

    • @ReaperCH90
      @ReaperCH90 3 года назад +35

      @@RealMothman98 why would you even try to have a reasonable argument with an account like that?

    • @RealMothman98
      @RealMothman98 3 года назад +22

      @@ReaperCH90 The ability to change is a very important part of being human. If we begin to believe individuals cannot be changed, then they will only drift further away from the rest of us. "Keep in mind, when two enemies are talking, they're not fighting, they're talking. They might be yelling and screaming, but at least they're talking. It's when the talking ceases that the ground becomes fertile for violence."

  • @fatmandoobius
    @fatmandoobius 3 года назад +106

    I don’t think there’s a nations that’s a rougher life than Poland. It feels there isn’t a century or less they don’t get invaded and have to defend their country. Yet they just keep going and though they’ve had it the roughest I’d argue they are certainly up their with the toughest.

    • @dragnarok4286
      @dragnarok4286 3 года назад +11

      Yeah mongols,ottomans,Russians,Germans,
      Austrians they fought alot for their freedom but at least the black death spared them

    • @zbigniewp1810
      @zbigniewp1810 3 года назад +7

      Armenians are a strong candidate as well.

    • @warreneckels4945
      @warreneckels4945 3 года назад +13

      @@dragnarok4286 1689: Sobieki drives the Ottomans from the gates of Vienna, sparing it a Turkish occupation.
      1772: The Australians pay Poland back by taking some territory
      1795: ...then by wiping it off the map.
      Maybe Poland took the wrong side in 1689, though these events are crucial to the Polish Martyrdom Complex, without which no nation in Central or Southeastern Europe feels complete. (The Ottomans wanted Rome, so they would have turned left...)

    • @krzysztofsaa2997
      @krzysztofsaa2997 3 года назад +4

      Century? you mean decade?

    • @fatmandoobius
      @fatmandoobius 3 года назад

      @@krzysztofsaa2997I think I'd actually intended to write half century and forgot to go back and amend, I'd say decade is a bit much but probably not in some eras.

  • @krzysztofsafin7505
    @krzysztofsafin7505 3 года назад +30

    I'm polish and I love this movie :) I like to see people form Haiti come and visit Poland :D We have a great history!

  • @Michelle__.
    @Michelle__. 2 года назад +18

    Thank you for sharing this. My grandfather is a polish -haitian 😊

  • @SuaveCerealKiller
    @SuaveCerealKiller 3 года назад +42

    I had no idea there was a Polish history in Haiti. A very well done video and I'm happy to have learned something.

  • @crimson5664
    @crimson5664 3 года назад +82

    4:09 Kościuszko was the General of Continental Army of first 13 colonies in the New World and helped then to establish West Point Academy to train officers. He also designed their first forts to defend territories from English army attacks along side with another Polish General Pułaski and many other Polish soldiers. They are Heroes of Two Nations.

    • @nieczerwony
      @nieczerwony 3 года назад +22

      He was also bug supporter of freeing black slaves. He freed all his black servants gave by US gov. He left his estate and money to buy freedom for them.His servant Agripa Haull was his best friend. Kościuszko poontes Jefferson as executor of his last will (buy blacks slaves freedom back), but he never did this.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      The polish legion in Haiti surrendered after they had lost 4500 out the 5000 soldier's that were sent there.

    • @crimson5664
      @crimson5664 Год назад

      @@josephLindor-ki7op and? whats your point buddy? who even cares

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      @@crimson5664 I do.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      @@crimson5664 you most thrives on lies, don't you

  • @Grel107
    @Grel107 3 года назад +89

    1:33 Poniatowski was an elected King not prince, Commonwealth was still a kingdom at that time ;) Greaj job pronouncing PL names. well done.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 года назад +6

      I think this might be the case of using the word 'prince' as the general term for ruler/member of the royalty. I believe I saw it being used that way in English for example in reference to the candidates taking part in the Polish-Lithuanian elections "Many princes vied for the Polish throne... blah, blah". Of course, some of them were actual princes, but poor Staś Poniatowski was definitely not one of them and didn't have any fancy title before becoming the King of Poland.
      Edit: plus Stanisław August Poniatowski is later in the video properly referred to as King.

    • @TimeTraveller625
      @TimeTraveller625 3 года назад +8

      @@Artur_M. he didnt have any fancy title, cause titles like count or baron were nonexistent and banned by law in PLC - all nobles were considering themselves equal citizens of the country (referred as a republic with a king), and king was Roman-style primus inter pares, the first among equals. There were old style titles like kasztelan, but they were strictly traditional and honorary. Any real influence was given only by money and owned land. The great aristocrat houses like Radziwiłł, Koniecpolski, Sapieha or Pac were given titles by the other monarchs (mostly counts), since they had to "have something" while in contact with the rest of Europe, but still - they could not use it while home.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 года назад +3

      @@TimeTraveller625 Yeah, I know. A bunch of families, that claimed descent from royalty (mostly the Lithuanian Gediminids and Rus Rurikids), also traditionally used the titles of princes. This included the powerful Czartoryski family, that happened to be political patrons of Poniatowski. But this tittle also didn't give them any special privileges.

    • @przemekkozlowski7835
      @przemekkozlowski7835 3 года назад +2

      @@Artur_M. The usage of the title in Poland was not always comparable to that in Western Europe. I remember it seeing it used to refer to some of the powerful magnate families In Lithuania who might be classified as dukes or grand dukes.

    • @Spacey_key
      @Spacey_key 3 года назад

      Stanisław August Poniatowski by God's grace and the will of people King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania... Technicly he was prince

  • @PredixPL
    @PredixPL 3 года назад +24

    Great video! And, as a Pole, I am really impressed by your Polish pronunciation. It ain't easy, I know, but you did it very well.

  • @hilltroneye
    @hilltroneye 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱. Thanks for your very informed video. Thank you for your work

  • @ewabear7
    @ewabear7 3 года назад +8

    Greetings from Gdańsk, Poland

  • @faegirdariusson2151
    @faegirdariusson2151 3 года назад +68

    I really appreciate pronouncing my mother tongue properly instated of butchering it as it's usually the case on the English internet.
    Tadeusz Kościuszko would be proud.
    Jan Henryk Dąbrowski was spot on, totally could have believe ye are a pole.

  • @alexelshami8723
    @alexelshami8723 3 года назад +40

    you kept your word, I read about them since you mentioned them last time and now this, keeping the little details alive!

  • @adankmeme651
    @adankmeme651 3 года назад +73

    Germany, Russia and austria after ww1: how the hell are you guys alive?
    Poland: remember me? :)

  • @tatr150
    @tatr150 3 года назад +37

    Speaking of the Polish and Haitian relations in history it's also worth to remember the feats of a certain US Navy petty officer of Polish descent named Faustin Edmond Wirkus who once ruled the Haitian island named La Gonave. He passed into history as Faustin II, the so-called Polish King of Haiti/La Gonave, crowned by Queen Timemenne of La Gonâve whose life he happened to save earlier on. A very intriguing story worth googling up for more details.

    • @stanleydouge2803
      @stanleydouge2803 Год назад

      A Vodoun Queen lol not the actual monarch of the island

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      ​@@stanleydouge2803whose the real one? you still not satisfied after you and your 12 other ally's extorted money out of Haiti through gunboat diplomacy, aka chicken fight?

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      ​@@stanleydouge2803gunboat diplomacy mean stay offshore and make threats

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      ​@@stanleydouge2803and did you also had yellow fever trouble in Guadeloupe, Martinique, st Lucia, Trinidad, west Africa? of course not, only in Haiti, were you got defeated not once, but twice. yellow fever aka save face story.

  • @5.7moy
    @5.7moy 3 года назад +77

    “A certain small individual called Napoleon Bonaparte.”

    • @IlmarKiisk
      @IlmarKiisk 3 года назад +16

      Despite him not actually being small. It was English/British propaganda that depicted him to be such.

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 3 года назад +10

      @@IlmarKiisk yeah, he was above average height but his height was given in French imperial units which caused him to seem short when you consider the measurements as British units

    • @francescoboselli6033
      @francescoboselli6033 3 года назад +1

      @@sundhaug92 also he wore simplest cap compared to others general at the time, who often had also showy panache, who make them seam more higher

  • @camh1149
    @camh1149 3 года назад +13

    Wonderful video !!! Very well done and well researched ! I am originally from Haiti, and fell in love with the country's history thanks to my parents transmitting to me the love of the country as a child. You have highlighted some important details that I'm sure, most Haitians ignore about their own history. Thank you a thousand times !

  • @PandoraFoxxBurlesque
    @PandoraFoxxBurlesque 3 года назад +234

    I wonder if the red skin one could maybe come from it being considerable sunnier in Haiti than in Poland, so - as the Polish Haitians were white - the got extremely sunburned? It likely has a better explanation! ☺️

    • @matheusalves5160
      @matheusalves5160 3 года назад +18

      Maybe, or maybe is their natural skin colour, in Brazil for example we use pardo (from leopardo - leopard) for the more yellish skinned persons, and they're generally mixed race. These more yellish/reddish skin can naturally occurs in mixed race people.

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 года назад +29

      I'm a Pole... Polander and have not even a white skin but transparent.
      And I get red fast when I catch too much sun.

    • @makeytgreatagain6256
      @makeytgreatagain6256 3 года назад +22

      As a part Jamaican I can say yes it’s due to the skin whites get when sunburned. In the Caribbean blacks refer to whites as “Redbone” because you guys go reddish.

    • @KAESowicz
      @KAESowicz 3 года назад +14

      @@makeytgreatagain6256 I understand it.
      That's what's happening when you have no melatonin protection.
      And I actually know some Pakistani guys who are genuinely white but they tan very quickly and intensively.

    • @makeytgreatagain6256
      @makeytgreatagain6256 3 года назад +14

      @@KAESowicz whites do have melatonin otherwise they wouldn’t tan. However in very small amounts obviously

  • @Amadeus_2061
    @Amadeus_2061 3 года назад +6

    Sir, as a Pole, I must say you pronunciation is spot on. Impressed.

  • @lordDenis16
    @lordDenis16 3 года назад +30

    To me they are still Poles despite the loss of contact with the motherland

  • @rosspuch6769
    @rosspuch6769 10 месяцев назад +4

    Greetings from Poland to our Haitian brothers and sisters.

  • @Mijn24
    @Mijn24 3 года назад +78

    Tadesuz kosciuzsko also urged Thomas Jefferson to free the slaves in America.

    • @Litwinus
      @Litwinus 3 года назад +9

      Yes, but Jeferson didn't do it.

    • @grash4435
      @grash4435 3 года назад +19

      He bought some slaves and free them and pay for their education.

    • @PR_nick
      @PR_nick 3 года назад

      Yes he is. He was this "West Point" defender.

    • @slavlivesmatter7190
      @slavlivesmatter7190 3 года назад

      That's a mistake

    • @TheOstry322
      @TheOstry322 3 года назад

      *Tadeusz Kościuszko

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 Год назад +2

    It's one of the most beautiful stories I've ever heard!

  • @Aur-ki1qu
    @Aur-ki1qu 3 года назад +12

    Black madonna / Lady of czestochowa is apparently a very sacred icon in Poland, many account of miracles & protecting the nations over the centuries. Many go there to pray apparently, including my mom when she was young.

  • @kris5885
    @kris5885 3 года назад +18

    big thanks to you for a very factual and honest telling of the history of Haiti. sadly a lot of of RUclips historians demonize or downplay our revolution. you just earned a new sub🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 3 года назад +1

      Greetings from Poland

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      So you just gonna believe the account of the looser? ayyanah bello, Haitian historian and other Haitian historians denied this lied. Out of 5000 polish soldier's, 0nly 500 made it out after their surrendered. out of all the colony's of France, did you ever wondered how come Haiti was the only place the french had trouble with yellow fever? not Martinique, Guadeloupe, st Lucia, west Africa, but Haiti, the only place they got defeated twice.

    • @josephLindor-ki7op
      @josephLindor-ki7op Год назад

      ​@@plrc4593the great deceit: the polish legion in Haiti. the 500 that were left surrendered.

    • @sowaveysuyat
      @sowaveysuyat Год назад

      @@josephLindor-ki7op surrendered like the losing French ones did? yet French were slaughtered and the Poles were sparred and honored by Dessalines? Lol you sound jealous and salty. The truth is right from the horses mouth itself, written by Haitis own leaders, not your colonial propaganda.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад +66

    *Hey!* I’m actually average for the time!

  • @mustafabinsober1248
    @mustafabinsober1248 3 года назад +42

    Thank you Polish soldiers for helping to create paradise that is Haiti

    • @proudpolishherbsman2583
      @proudpolishherbsman2583 2 года назад +25

      Yes, Haiti is the one of the poorest countries in the world, but at least Polish people faught for freedom of slaves, and never enslaved people like Western Europeans, Southern Europeans, Communists, Jws and Muslims did.

    • @baird5682
      @baird5682 Год назад +2

      Polish soldiers helped Haiti become independent.
      It was western embargo set on the island for it insolence that lead to current horrible conditions. Set as an example for other would be slave rebels, Haiti is still an example of a wrath of the western imperialism. I would rather live on Haiti than Russian Siberia.

  • @stevensonbak
    @stevensonbak 3 года назад +38

    Damn Hilbert, that was some mighty fine rootin' tootin' Polish pronunciation if I do say so myself, yessir

  • @allanpeters367
    @allanpeters367 Год назад +3

    Thank you for this video. My family is haitian with polish heritage and this was a very interesting video.

  • @narvuntien
    @narvuntien 3 года назад +22

    So that's how you say his name! Kosciuszko! Here in Australia where his name adorns our tallest mountain Kozi Os Co.

    • @Got-lander
      @Got-lander 3 года назад

      I was listening for that specific word in the Midnight Oil song and it took me a while to pick it up eventually ;) Quite different indeed…

  • @radicalrecordings
    @radicalrecordings 3 года назад +9

    Thanks Hilbert, this was awesome. I love how your English has improved over the years. You were an expert when you started, but you’ve moved into native level pronunciation

  • @KevinElamMusic
    @KevinElamMusic 2 года назад +3

    such an unbelievably cool topic! I had never heard about this historical link... thank you!

  • @eljanrimsa5843
    @eljanrimsa5843 3 года назад +10

    Great stuff. Haiti is a fascinating country for historians, a showcase for what could have happened in a lot of places but only happened there. And now everything, people, language, religion, historic relations with other nations, is a bit different and special.

  • @mikoajbadzielewski3396
    @mikoajbadzielewski3396 3 года назад +5

    A++ for pronunciation

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
    @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 3 года назад +28

    I feel bad for Poland always a step-child of Europe as well as others, I get the same treatment even with my gov't check one would think at least pretend to be nice nope it ruins the image they have when talking about me so I am low too I blab all I can but no one listens psst, someone is always listening

  • @curtisthomas2670
    @curtisthomas2670 3 года назад +8

    Also forgot to mention the important part played by independent Haiti in the fight for Independence from Spain of the former colonies of Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru. After the revolutionaries suffered early defeat at the hands of the Spanish many were given refuge in Haiti then given training, finance, supplies, arms and ships to return to the mainland to resume battle on the condition that they free the slaves in any colony they liberated.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 3 года назад +5

    this is such a fascinating and obscure story. Thanks for covering it

  • @AB-xf7li
    @AB-xf7li 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for covering this

  • @Cainmak
    @Cainmak Год назад +3

    First of all, I'm impressed with your pronunciation of Polish words. Kudoz.

  • @darkmattersproject2951
    @darkmattersproject2951 3 года назад +5

    Fantastic information

  • @paxvera5199
    @paxvera5199 3 года назад +8

    Fascinating. Thank you for very educational video.
    Sometimes I am wondering if there is any country in the world Polish people didn't fight for independence and left some mark.
    Greetings from Ontario Canada

    • @cokurde
      @cokurde 2 года назад

      no

    • @infeltk
      @infeltk 2 года назад

      There are many.

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 Год назад +3

    Very nice video! In Brazil, Our Lady of Aparecida - the country's patron saint - has black skin. There's also a huge contribution of Polish culture to music since many Poles emigrated to Brazil in the 19th century and some became music teachers. Their pupils learned Polish music including the Polka and since they were already learning the African music brought by the enslaved African peoples a synthesis appeared in what is known a Choro. Just like with Jazz in the US - that had a similar genesis - Choro is a sofisticated instrumental music that would later form the basis, with Samba and Cool Jazz, for the Bossa Nova style.
    Though the historic processes involved were different, I find it interesting how powerful and positive cultural exchange is. In Brazil there also is a powerful syncretism between African based religions and catholicism. That is most visible in Salvador, capital of Bahia.
    Once again, I really liked you video! Thanks!

  • @elemperadordemexico
    @elemperadordemexico 3 года назад +27

    Polish Mexicans during ww2 are interesting to look up

  • @carterhouston7569
    @carterhouston7569 3 года назад +7

    Appreciate the informative video

  • @zhcultivator
    @zhcultivator 3 года назад +4

    Magnificent Video

  • @alvaropenademiguel2308
    @alvaropenademiguel2308 3 года назад +8

    Nice video!
    You could talk about the spanish troops Napoleon sent to Denmark before invading Spain (being this one of the reasons why the Spanish army couldn't do much against the French forces). It's a very interesting and unknown piece of history.

  • @williamthompson2941
    @williamthompson2941 3 года назад +5

    good job

  • @sketchyreal
    @sketchyreal 3 года назад +22

    You should look into the irish San Patricios in the Mexican American War for more stories like this

  • @mirellaczajkowska-turek5819
    @mirellaczajkowska-turek5819 3 года назад +4

    Great history:))) thanks so much, also for great pronunciation of all Polish words👌🎉💪😊

  • @BM-sb3jc
    @BM-sb3jc 3 года назад +2

    15:27 there was a Polish synthpop band established in 1984 by two producers called "Papa dock". Because of the strong similiarity to Haitian dictator's nickname, they changed band name to Papa Dance

  • @karatechris198
    @karatechris198 3 года назад +11

    It's the first black Republic in the world not just the Caribbean. Also the first republic built by slaves!

  • @marlenapiwonska7233
    @marlenapiwonska7233 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting video, I am Polish and I didn't even know about this...Thank You

  • @rogerdines6244
    @rogerdines6244 3 года назад +3

    Thank you: this was well worth the second viewing-many new rabbit holes to explore!

  • @plrc4593
    @plrc4593 3 года назад +7

    Greetings for Haiti from Poland.

    • @deechallenge1323
      @deechallenge1323 3 года назад +1

      Love y'all

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 3 года назад

      @@deechallenge1323 Are you Haitian? :) What's the current situation on Haiti?

    • @deechallenge1323
      @deechallenge1323 3 года назад +1

      @@plrc4593 yes i'm. we no longer have a president, I can say that the country is not in charge at the moment.

    • @plrc4593
      @plrc4593 3 года назад +1

      @@deechallenge1323 I feel very sorry for Haiti. Due to beautiful Polish-Haitian history I wish Haiti all the best.

    • @deechallenge1323
      @deechallenge1323 3 года назад

      @@plrc4593my respect for y'all 🤝🏽

  • @iamthepole723
    @iamthepole723 2 года назад +8

    Glad to see my country fight to free the Haitians 🇵🇱🤝🇭🇹

    • @heniakonas9439
      @heniakonas9439 Год назад

      With hindsight would have been better left to the French.

  • @amadeosendiulo2137
    @amadeosendiulo2137 3 года назад +2

    Your pronunciation of the Polish names in really good :-)

  • @Al1en_Boy_The_5th_Kind
    @Al1en_Boy_The_5th_Kind 3 года назад +5

    Wow… well done well done my friend 👍 now Im even more proud to be a Polish 🙏😎

  • @Ciech_mate
    @Ciech_mate 5 месяцев назад

    This was a very insightful video, thank you very much.

  • @Suli5241
    @Suli5241 3 года назад +4

    I feel the need to visit Cazale :D

  • @takisobieblues
    @takisobieblues 3 года назад +1

    very good content, thank you as a Pole and history lover. And I'm so impressed of your pronunciation of Polish words and names. Good job, your channel is already subscribed.

  • @user-uq7io2os3r
    @user-uq7io2os3r 3 года назад +3

    Many thanks for nice video👍 I bow to your great Polish pronouncecion

  • @jolantamasete4270
    @jolantamasete4270 Год назад +1

    ❤ Great presentation, I love it ❤️

  • @satyr1349
    @satyr1349 3 года назад +4

    One of your most fascinating!

  • @number2nd
    @number2nd 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant video! A video I’d love to see would be on the Latvian Batswana. I’m from Botswana and what has always fascinated me are the decedents of Latvians in Botswana.

  • @michaeljohanowicz8697
    @michaeljohanowicz8697 3 года назад +5

    You miss that Kosciuszko was an architect of victory in one-off most important battles in the US independent War - if I good remember 1777 ( one year after signing a declaration of independence) battle of Saratoga. He cut general Burgoyne and this single battle made it possible to win the war again red jacket. Also, this battle make US recognize as state by France:)

  • @igorgregorek
    @igorgregorek 3 года назад +2

    I am form Poland and when I watched only 5 minutes of it it was almost all of what I learned in 6th Grade

  • @509LM
    @509LM 3 года назад +8

    Very interesting topic. The German Haitians would be another great topic you could cover. They were almost all kicked out of the country by US Marines during the American Occupation. But you could still find families with German surnames. The Germans integrated into the Haitian economy more than the Polish and controlled great influence. For that reason they were seen as a threat by Americans.

    • @AndrewTate-Top.G
      @AndrewTate-Top.G Год назад +1

      Hey I have a question is Covinsky a German or Slavic name. This is how we write it in creole in our language but I don’t know why we have that kinda names.

    • @katarzynaj8414
      @katarzynaj8414 Год назад +2

      I would assume it comes from Polish surname Kowiński or Konwiński which sounds similar to Covinsky

    • @123pik1
      @123pik1 Год назад

      @@AndrewTate-Top.G How Katarzyna J said it is more similar to Polish surnames than German ones

    • @JesusMagicPanties
      @JesusMagicPanties Год назад +2

      @@AndrewTate-Top.G There are lots of native Germans in Germany having Polish names and - conversely- lots of native Poles in Poland having German names.

  • @KarsonNow
    @KarsonNow 2 года назад +2

    06:45 This is the reason why in national anthem of Poland and Italy are Lyrics about Poland and Italy.

  • @mikoajprzybylski6773
    @mikoajprzybylski6773 3 года назад +4

    Fun fact: First Haiti president Jean Jaques Desselines called us ,,White niggas of Europe,, wchich was a way to pay respect and show the friendship between Polacks and Haitians. Oh and that happened because many of us were send from the army of Napoleon to break haitian revolution against french colonies. But instead we stood on the haitian side and helped Haiti achieve independence.

  • @SuperCaelum
    @SuperCaelum 3 года назад +1

    Absolute banger of a video, very educational. Thank you!

  • @curtisthomas2670
    @curtisthomas2670 3 года назад +7

    Fun fact: at one point Napoleon considered using the successful black Haitian troops as a military force to establish a French colonial empire in French territories in North America (Louisiana).
    Imagine how that might have turned out.

    • @nandib570
      @nandib570 3 года назад +1

      Napoleon was disgusting.

  • @Shinbusan
    @Shinbusan 3 года назад +2

    awesome document. I know this episode, but not in such detailed matter.
    Thank you!

  • @Litwinus
    @Litwinus 3 года назад +3

    Bardzo dobrze wymawiasz Polski :) You pronounce Polish very well

  • @7seasrobert
    @7seasrobert 3 года назад +1

    Very impressed with your presentations....keep up your great work

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 3 года назад +8

    I never knew before that Poles fought for Haitian independence

  • @jasina556
    @jasina556 3 года назад

    Hilbert I have to say that pronunciation was amazing and brought smile on my face!

  • @przemekkozlowski7835
    @przemekkozlowski7835 3 года назад +25

    Polish culture makes a big deal about Polish contributions on Napoleon's side (it is in our anthem) but the Haitian expedition is seen as the Big Shame of that period. It betrayed the principles of the Polish Legions and turned them into disposable mercenaries.

    • @andrewpiotrowski8686
      @andrewpiotrowski8686 3 года назад +2

      Kolego. Poczytaj więcej na ten temat i przestań pisać bzdury.

    • @Addi_Teacha509
      @Addi_Teacha509 3 года назад +2

      The ones that chose to fight for humanity rehabilitated the great people of Poland.

  • @sweetfunnykittenscat1461
    @sweetfunnykittenscat1461 3 года назад +1

    He is pronouncing it correctly for someone who isn't Polish, well done nice vid. One mention about how uprising was initiated with the ritual would have brought the story together, what I mean is that they called on a spirit, it revealed itself as Ezili Danto that was what date? And then 10yrs after polish came with their home made icons of black madonna, that must have been an instant connection

  • @Falcon364
    @Falcon364 3 года назад +3

    This was fascinating! Can you do one on the Shinsengumi next?