The Inside Crew Reacts to LeBron Finishing 2nd in MVP Voting | NBA on TNT
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Draymond, Charles, Shaq and Kenny all react to LeBron's comments on this season's MVP results.
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4 guys up here who played in the nba but Ernie the only the one who get a vote for mvp lol
They won’t let the players vote cause of bias
Woud u be fine for Lebron winning 10 straight?
😂😂🤣
All I know is: Shaq is *NEVER* getting a vote!! Lol! Not after this...
Odyssey Mack I figured
Shaq gone be mad forever about nash winning that mvp over him 😂
also about not being the first unanimous MVP in 2000
We need to talk about how the Barkley was defending Giannis as “not playing with a star teammate” a reason to why he won mvp cuz remember when Barkley won it he didn’t have a star teammate but everyone was saying how MJ should’ve won but MJ had a star teammate.
Still went to Nash's Suns to ring-chase with him
@@thek1n678 Charles is just saying that Giannis not having a teammate like AD is something worth considering when you're discussing who should be MVP, it's just one of the arguments in favor of Giannis, not the sole argument. Also AD isn't just a star, he's a superstar.
He's right.
“Yea, and I voted Giannis..” Ernie Savage
So when lebron dragged the cavs to the finals it’s a cakewalk but when Giannis gets bounced its cause he doesn’t have a superstar teammate?
And when giannas gets that superstar no one is gonna say “ well he needed help he was carried “ blah blah like for lebron🙄typical haters
You talking about 13 years ago? You realise things change right? Also throwback to when Lebron won mvp and had the best record then got bounced in the 2nd round
Son I promise you if giannis had Kyrie and love, giannis would back to back champ
@@Alk-rk6yu hahaha right. against the golden state with KD? not even close. Lebron would have won in 15 if Kyrie and Love didn't get injured and he had to drag his team to the finals again, and take away KD, and the cavs and gsw were evenly matched. Giannis hasn't been able to lead his team to the finals in 2 years, which Lebron did in 2007 mind you. No way he going back to back.
@nabil chowdhury yeah now all of a sudden the east is 'tough' stop the cap. name the 'tough' teams in the east please?
Can y'all PLEASE PLEASE... get Steve Nash to walk across stage one day with his mvp trophy.
Petty 💀
AHAHAH that would be hilarious af
both of them! then he can go to Stephen A and give him the "privilege" to shine em up
or or PLEASE PLEASE... get Steve Nash to walk across stage one day with his championship ring.
Shaq might actually take it from him and be like,”You know one of your two is supposed to be mine.”
Chuck: if it wasn't for Dwayne Wade or Kobe Bryant we wouldn't have even heard of you
Shaq: Theres nine ring up here and you aint apart of that, how bout that. 😂😂😂😂
Priceless
Everytime
I died. 😂😂😂
chuck forgot about 2012 example Lebron made which is valid
Overrated
Chuck- "First of all your'e overrated" ahaha he's not but it's funny.
Fr the guys averaged 35+ in playoffs
@@sgt.pepper4362 Get off the LSD Sgt. Pepper, it ain't '66.
@@SuperRobertoClemente hahaha that's a good one
he meant shaq AHHAHAHAHA
@@sgt.pepper4362 you sober now man?
“It’s 9 rings up here and you ain’t apart of it 😂😂
He died inside a little 😞
@@___Truth___ shaq got a liittle creative with the rings argument this time lol
"If it ain't for Dwyane Wade or Kobe Bryant, we'd never heard of you" - Chuck
"There's nine rings up here and you ain't even part of that" - Shaq
That's how you roast your friends properly 😂
Imlitemjen Jamir did you even watch the video?😂
Timestamp?
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@@firefoxcodex15 5:59
And then Kenny adding his two cents, "don't forget about Alana Alonzo Mourning too" 😆
Draymond is gonna have a future as an analyst, either in studio or in game
No doubt
yep fit right in like when hes on the show
hope so he’s pretty good
He really will take Chuck's job
Well we might see him more when he retires
Never thought I would say this but I actually like Draymond with these guys.
me too, i was actually saying its gunna be sad when they eventually retire but at least draymond will be good, idk who else will come on.
Naw y’all trippin he aight but he ain’t chuck or Shaq
@@erniejohnson677 ernie and Jenny isn't shaq or Charles so what's your point lol
Same
Cuz him and Barkley have been able to get over their rift.
Bron playing with AD definitely played apart in him not winning the award.
Then what about 2018? He only had love. Or what about all those 7yrs with the cavs when he had mo Williams who is a 2nd string pg on other teams and cavs were still balling. Lbj should have had 7-8mvps by now.
@@iamdalibor consider who won the years he didn’t. Sometimes other players have better seasons that’s not always the best player of the league. Like MJ didn’t win it 97or 98. Karl Malone did.
@@iamdalibor Cavs were a 50 win 4th seed who was up and down the whole REGULAR season, LeBron got all the trades he wantef TWICE(once before the seasone and then at the mid-season trade deadline)..Harden averagged 30&8 on a 65 win #1 seed, he was the clear MVP. In the playoffs, LeBron was far better, but try to use your comperhension skills...IT'S A REGULAR SEASON AWARD!!!!
Why he didnt win last year
@@iamdaliborlook in the history of the NBA only one player won the award while pkaying with another player that is also in the First team nba
“If it wasn’t for Dwayne Wayne and Kobe we won’t ever heard of you”- Chuck shades on Shaq 😂
😂😂😂
If it wasn't for inside the nba most people wont know who chuck is.
Jaime Palomino you’re not the brightest are you
@@jaimep3432 You tripping
Jaime Palomino I’ve known who Charles Barkley is since I was 5 years old
LeBron : and that's when it got personal for me.
MJ: My man!
In his Denzel voice
LeBron to Gianni's over getting MVP :Ok fine you can have that ima get this
LeBron : 4th ring
Every since he lost to d Rose that year he never got another MVP again
😂
Bro Lebron was just crying like a baby 🍼
Draymond sounds like if Chris Broussard went through a second puberty
Accurate
Let's be real for the last 10 odd years LeBron has been the best in the league and we all know it. Not saying he should win the MVP award every time, but he is undoubtedly the most valuable player almost every year. Last season is probably the first one where he didn't deserve it
I like dray in this mix surprisingly. He fits well
I agree!
Off-court Draymond makes more sense than On-court Draymond
He really does. I hope he joins after retirement.
Draymond is a great fit!!
I feel that!
How come they don’t make the “weak East” argument for Giannas? He put big numbers against the East and won the most games in the East. No Kd/Kyrie? 🤔
cuz that's how Lebron won all his mvps too
I think its got to do with being the best player in the league. I don't think anyone actually considers Giannis to be a better player than Lebron. Its when you are the best player and in the GOAT contention anol that you start getting "weak east" kind of criticisms. Giannis simply isn't great enough to receive such criticisms
@@jordyn0069 Lebron never won a MVP in the West. Cleveland and Miami are in the East...
Also the fact that Lebron is playing with pretty much a whole new team. Yes he has AD, but to to still shine both as a team and individually speaks volumes. Its starts with Lebron, IMO
@@aginotey2555 Lakers are the most stacked team in the NBA. When Lebron was on the Heat, the Heat were the most stacked team in the NBA. When Lebron won with Cleveland, they were the most stacked team in the league. Lebron literally gets any available player he can.
That “don’t forget about Alonzo Mourning too” like at the end was funny as a mug! 🤣
Jet - we expect 29, 12, and 12
Shaq - That's what I did fool!
Love it
Kenny talks like an idiot a lot of times nothing new here lol
Kenny: "Don't forget about Alonzo Mourning"
Chuck: "Yea Lonzo Mourning too"
They love to push Shaq's buttons 😂
Lol they’re professional trolls
@Skippy the Alien he is super salty man! hahahahaha
Americans have short memories. Charles Barkley is an all time great, a genuine superstar. If he had some stronger teams and won a few rings, you might well be lauding him as the best ever, instead you pretending like he isnt a genuine all time great, rings or no.
The Suns were a great team.
He does that himself with the nonsense that comes out of his mouth.
And Chuck is an All Time Great Player, when your friends can only roast you for no chips is not new to anyone who played in the Jordan Era.
No Chuck isnt but again if Shaq was drafted Same year as Jordan how many Chips would he have really won?
@@thornecardinal3587 Depends on who drafted him
I feel that once LBJ entered the league it very soon became a question of just eliminating him from consideration because he was SO good. The dude basically has made the Conference Finals his own personal INVITATIONAL tournament for going on two decades. How many GMs would be given the choice of Giannas or Lebron and choose the Greek? How many the choice of Harden or Lebron and choose Harden? Very very few, if any, I believe.
Chuck”Shaq, you overrated. If it wasn’t for Dwayne and Kobe no one would even heard of you” freaking hilarious 🤣😂 love these guys.
but shaq was better than both of them in his prime i don't get it
LeChosen One He wasn’t better than Wade when they played together. And with Kobe it was 1A and 1B. Shaq even said Kobe was the best in the world in 2001.
@@KungaMatata nah man 2001 was Iversons Peak Year AI was the best player that year
@@jd3076 that was both their year bro..
@@lechosenone7016 wasnt better was more dominant two different things
To even be considered for an MVP at 36 years old is insane. Props to Lebron.
Dart Vart 35* and mj won the mvp and fmvp at age 35
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@Martin R couple months away, he is practically 36.
@@adriancontreras8491 Thats why MJ is MJ, The 🐐.
@@TheRealSneakyPlayz Yeah you tell em
Lol get him shaq. "9 rings up here. Your not part of that energy".
This group is the best. Keep doing great things Ernie, Shaq, Kenny, and Charles!
oElitePanda lol thanks to Kobe n d wade
“Just because you’re the best player in the world doesn’t mean you had the best season” PERIOD.
I mean is that so hard to understand
@Donald Hariot Not to mention AD led the Lakers in Points, Rebounds, Blocks , and Steals...and is continuing to do so in the playoffs.
Isn't the award based on the season? If so then Giannis deserves the award. Best season better numbers.
Barry Allen well lebron is a pass first player and ad is taller than lebron so
@@ronajgibson7179 And LeBron his taller than Jordan and Kobe. Do his numbers mean less because he's taller? So AD being taller is the only reason he leads the team in in 4 out of 5 major statistical categories? Do you watch LeBron? He is an elite passer, that doesn't make him a "pass first player". At least half of possessions, Bron just drives to the rack and only passes if he cant get a good shot. Even if he is a "pass first player", this year is the first season LeBron hasn't lead his team in scoring. What changed? Is AD just that good or has LeBron lost a step?
"Lebron you finished second on the Mvp List"
LeBron: "And I took that personal"
Lol this makes more sense than SAS and max shouting to each other
First Take is like barbershop talk. I love it.
@J M Facts
In hopes of spreading the love for a more peaceful society, you'd be better off not watching First Take. I have blocked that nonsense from my life and such actions help tremendously.
No judgment.
I get so tired of SAS and Max just blah blah blahin.....
"If it ain't for Dwayne Wade and Kobe Bryant, we'd never heard of you"
Tell 'em Chuck LOL
And Alonzo Mourning too! 😭😭😭
T Dillinger with Prime Penny Hardaway tho
"There's nine rings up here and you ain't even a part of that" lol
T Dillinger u right. He wouldn’t be as legendary without them tho
i get a good laugh when they talk about that bc they have mad respect for eachother lol 😭😭
I was waiting for Shaq to bring up rings 😭😭😭
Giannis can have the MVP, James will have the ring.
🤔 This aged well 💍
Aye u right
And finals MVP
@@mcgaming8982 the actual MVP 🙌🏽
James Harden lost
Props to Giannis, he had an amazing year and he deserves all the credit he had getting this award. With all of that being said, to me, the MVP isn't the best player in the league. LeBron James is still, and by far especially if we look the bigger picture including his postseason results, the best basketball player in the world. Period
The MVP is a regular season awo
“9 rings up here and you not apart of it” 🤣🤣🤣
That and the Nash MVPs. Even Kenny was like “there it is” after Shaq brought it up again
Paul E Yeah he had that in his back pocket. Cuz there’s no way Shaq can add that quick lol
Paul E He just re-uses it. He said something similar a month or so ago.
Kenny with the last second zinger at the buzzer: "Don't forget about Alonso Mourning too!" LOL
Everyone like Draymond on the show??
Just remember he told Charles he can do his job 😂😂
So disrespectful to Sir Charles! He could do Draymond's job way better than Draymond in his prime. You kids just don't know...
@@patrickm.39 i wont know but I'm riding with my generation though. Charles can dish it but can't take it.
Man, if this was MJ:
"Okay, fine. That's all I needed."
JerickHerick35 and karl Malone 😂
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Facts! he mad which is cool but Giannis clearly had a better year so it's not like bron was robbed plus AD numbers were better than his sooo 🤷🏾♂️ but yeah just take it out on Denver bro 4get the mvp go add another ring
"I took offense to that".
What Lebron needs? Iannis is already gone fishing
Actually, LeBron made a lot of sense on the defensive player of the year award discussion. He should've won it over Gasol back in 2013.
What?
Believe he’s referring to 2012.
I would have went with Tony Allen that year and I'm a Heat fan
- BroadwayO nah Gasol deserved it
@@kb4231 Tony Allen was phenomenal at guarding two positions. LeBron was phenomenal at guarding all five position at that point.
Chuck have me crying at the end..😂 😂 😂 😂 "If it wasn't for Dwayne Wade and Kobe Bryant we would never heard of you!"😂😂😩😭😭
they didn't even play the full postgame interview, he talked about how could a player win DPOY and be second defence team.
What Draymond is on the court is the total opposite off the court. LOL
Facts he's so likable here
True. I hate the guy but he blended well with the boys.
If someone has to go, I pick Shaq.
@@kennethjose7159 nobody has to go.. come on...
I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree.
That’s why they call it game face.
What a line by Shaq."There are 9 rings up on here and you ain't a part of that." Ouch...Two times.
Terrible line, that's literally all Shaq ever says lol.
You must be new...Shaq makes the rings joke every show
Mith Randir that’s all he has to say lol you can’t argue with facts
@@Bleax Lol I think you and Shaq have this low intelligence thing in common. Unrelated facts... Chuck will say he didn't like their dinner last night. Shaq responds... How many rings you got Chuck?
Live fire no friendly lol
In the documentary series " The Last Dance", MJ took it personally that he just "lost" the MVP to Karl Malone, period.
Lebron upset not that he lost, but because he only got "16" votes?! What da?! SMH.
He’s made that he lost he just didn’t wanna say that cause the media would’ve went off on him cause he’s lebron
He would get batterd if he said that out loaud, Lebron is just being smart and framing the argument
He probably tried to stay quiet because the entire media would be doing the same thing you are.
Thank you Bron! Nothing I appreciate more than honesty. I am constantly amazed by how true most NBA greats are, while at the same time being so human. A lesson for the rest of us?
Draymond needs to join these boys when his career is over I love him on here
The TNT crew social distancing like 12 feet from Draymond cuz he mouth breathes real heavy
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Avoiding the nut shots!
His glass sides on the table be foggy
bruhh
“9 rings and you aint part of it” 😭😭☠️
This is what I like to see from Lebron. The reason most pick MJ over him is because he likes to put his teammates before him, and they see that as a sort of weakness.
But it's not a weakness he's just a team player
Harden said the same thing last year about narrative and y’all got mad haha
Exactly!!!!!! But noooo it's Lebron....
Great point, I said Harden should have gotten it last year and The Greek deserved it this year.
Nah,LeBron said he’s not mad that he didn’t win,he’s mad that he only got 16 votes.
@@P-K-B he shouldn't even have gotten 16. AD lead the team in every major statistic on both sides of the ball except assist and 25% of assist went to A D. That being said Gianni's had a better regular season then both of them.
Lebron is the only superstar that 😫😥
Shaq still salty Nash beat him to win MVP awards loool
Shaq was better
As he should be
15-10 are not MVP numbers and lebron or kobe WERE BOTH robbed in '06
@@EmpErroRq most deft 06, 11,
He should be. THAT year that should've gone to Shaq.
@@raymondthomas1574 Shaq wasn't even the best player on his team ...smh. Remember that guy D Wade? Finals MVP
“It’s a regular season award”
NBA gives award out during the Conference Finals.
For someone that isn't a big Draymond fan, he fits in really well with the TNT crew.
Kenny "The Instigator" Smith
A true point guard setting his teammates up with his statements
I love how they get on Shaq at the end lol
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When you're the best overall player in the regular season it must reflect on the postseason which I do think happened with LeBron but not with Giannis. In my opinion, I say Giannis deserved it but LeBron deserved it more keeping in mind that MVP stands for the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER (for the team) and not the MOST STATISTICAL PLAYER.
Uh. What do you think the Bucks are without Giannis?
Ernie: I voted for Giannis
Good thing LeBron isn’t on the Inside panel. He’d try to get him fired.
You can tell Lebron really wants to expose the "weak east" narrative that they aren't applying to Giannis but applied to him his whole career. Forget the MVP, get the chip.
@Bernard Poindexter The whole voting criteria is messed up, Giannis can't be mvp when he chokin in the playoffs
@@PilipinoFlashx ITS A REGULAR SEASON AWARD ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
@@PilipinoFlashx you don't have no ad LeBron always had good player Kyrie Irving Dwyane Wade and now ad big Greek the freak don't got that
They cant use the weak east narrative because GIANNIS HASNT EVEN GOTTEN OUT OF EAST. They were using that narrative when Lebron was winning. I hate Lebron as a player personally, but hes 10X better than Giannis. He also makes his teammates 10X better.
@Bernard Poindexter Dude missed the playoffs due to injury, before then he was in the playoffs for consecutive years.
Lebron is so good, he could win MVP Every year. That’s pretty special! All three were deserving in their own unique way.
You are a supreme individual.
@Shane -Arguable GOAT, 2nd All Time
-Since 2011, LeBron James is:
26-4 (87%) in closeout games
12-4 (75%) in elimination games
6-0 (100%) in Game 7's
-13 50 point games
-Most Playoff Wins
-3rd Most Career Points
-Most Playoff Points of All Time
-Most Playoffs Free Throws Made
-Most Field Goals Made in Playoffs
-Most Playoff Steals
-Most Playoff Minutes Played
-3x NBA Champion
-3x NBA Finals MVP
-4x NBA MVP
-3x NBA All Star MVP
-16x All Star Selection
-6x All Defense
-Most Career Assist by a Forward
-Most Consecutive Double Digit Scoring Games
-12x All NBA First Team
-34k Points 9k Rebounds 9k Rebounds
-Averaged 25 ppg for 15 Straight Seasons
-Won 4 MVPs Within 5 Years
-Recorded a Triple Double Against Every Team
-Averaged 20 5 5 in Rookie Season
-35 Points 15 Assist 0 TO
-Most Points Scored in an All Star Game
-Most Playoff Games With At Least 20 Points
-Most Playoff Games Scoring At Least 30 Points
-Scored 40 points 27 Times in The Playoffs
-23 Triple Doubles in The Playoffs
-Averaged a 30 Point Triple Double in The Playoffs
-4 30 Point Triple Doubles in The Finals
-Most Defensive Rebounds in The Finals
-Most Turnover in The Finals
-Most Triple Doubles in The Finals
-2nd for Most Assist in The Finals
-2nd for Most Steals in The Finals
-8 Straight Finals
-Only Player to Average a Triple Double in The Finals
-Came Back From a 3-1 Deficet
-Dropped 51 on The Greatest Team in NBA History
-Greatest Playoff Run in NBA History in 2018
-17 Game Winners with 51% FG
-LeBron James 1st EVER playoff series as a 21 yr old:
35.7 PPG
7.5 RPG
5.7 APG
51% FG
38.2% 3P
74.6% FT
59.9% TS
55.3% eFG
23.6 GmScore
•Won 4-2
•Two 40+ pt gms & a 38 pt gm
•Two GAME WINNERS
1st EVER playoff game:
32/11/11
•Played ALL 48 mins
•W
How quick they forget.👑
copypaste btw
@@noitsnot239 Lebron actually lost 2 game 7s so he's not undefeated in game 7s
@@ezekielspates5677 I'll change it
@@noitsnot239 ok cool
Shaq and Chuck fighting always ends the same way. Chuck telling Shaq he only won rings because of Kobe and Wade and Shaq telling Chuck he got 0 rings 😂
Funny how Shaq, before the playoffs started, was all about Giannis winning MVP. But seeing Giannis losing to the Heat in the second round completely changed his mind and now Lebron is his mvp. No offense to Shaq, but I get why Ernie is the only who gets an mvp vote. Most of them, don’t seem to realize that the mvp is a regular season award and not based on the playoffs.
They should've given it to Steve Nash... that would've been hilarious 🤣
Go get that finals MVP Bron. Let's goooo
You mean Davis ??
Celtics winning this year
@@arjunmahay you're so funny 🤣🤣🤣
@@arjunmahay don't think that's happening
@@arjunmahay Celtics aint even winning a game in ECF XDDD
"It's 9 rings up here but you ain't a part of that!" 😂
“There’s 9 rings up here and you ain’t apart of it” 😂
Shaq keeps saying he got robbed when he averaged 23 and 10, and 20 and 9. Man acts like he was putting up Wilt numbers those years.
How old are you? Do you even remember both years nash won over shaq? What are you talking about. Go to sleep kid
He was the most dominate player and he got robbed. He couldn't hit free throws.
I was a huge Shaq fan and I was fine with Nash winning those MVPs.
Nash had the best season and Shaq was coasting til the playoffs. He comes in using the first few months to get into shape lol
Jimmy S Man you’re an idiot.
@Jimmy S the racist spotted
RIP to every other team in the bubble lol. Now it's etched in stone fr Lakers about to finish this quick.
I cant count out Denver and the heat
The fact that he did not bring his team
In semis he should not be the MVP. You lost credibility.
@@fjrp1587 that's never been the criteria that's just how you feel
LeBron last week: I'm a winner
LeBron last night: I always come in second :(
I would like to see Draymond on that seat when he retires cause for sure he'll always be there and not just when he isn't playing. I love watching him do this with Ernie, Shaq, Kenny and Chuck
Notice how he said “better and better”. He has 10 years left i’m calling it
@63 the final resurrection Rondo is not a surprise to me. Doing his thing like always.
Alright let's slow down 😅 My man's beards already graying
Amish guys like LeBron stay fit and healthy well into their 50s. He could easily play into his 40s.
I think he'll go to 38/39
Has anyone seen Shannon Sharp that man is in his 50 looking better then 50% of NFL players. Lebron gonna play until he wants to if he doesn't get hurt.
Chuck: "If it weren't for D Wade and Kobe, we never heard of you" HAHAHAHA
Hold on. The narrative would favor Lebron because of his age, his position changing, going to the West , etc
fax
Not playing with AD
Yea if that was the actual narrative they use but it’s not
@@mightymochi6320 People have been using that narrative. What was the narrative for Giannis outside of actual basketball?
The narrative was that Giannis was the better player during the regular season and deserved MVP.... IMO had the season gone on longer things may have been different. Lakers were on a role and had just beat the Bucks.
Giannis is playing in the east, and the bucks literally ran through the east in regular season. When lebron was in the east, they said that the east was too easy. SMH
Isaac Sampson Thank you.
The east is literally demonstrably better now though so it's disingenuous what you're saying.
Lebron won 4 MVPs in the east. Also, Lebron did not dominate the east without Kyrie in 2018. They went to game 7's with Celtics and Pacers and you can argue if Lebron didn't get away with the goaltending at the end of game 7 against pacers he may have went home in the 1st round.
King Kylos The East is still considered weaker than the west. And even though the East is slightly better than previous years, Giannis and the bucks were head and shoulders above everybody else in the east. And it’s more of the fact that the same energy that was remonstrated toward lebron is not done to Giannis. When Lebron was dominating the East, other guys won the MVP when lebron was putting up ridiculous number and making the NBA finals.
G Yes which is totally ridiculous because he has been the best player in the league for over a decade, and really since the day he stepped into the league.
AD is the 3rd most efficient player OF ALL TIME, and he’s on Lebron’s team. All we’ve heard for years is how having other great players on your team hurts your chances for MVP. Keep the same energy.
He got the mvp when he played wit his old big 3 Wytb?
LeBron has 2nd highest PER off all time, I love how you left that out
Dan Erely
The point is the talent a person is playing with. Lebron could be 1st or 10th, it is irrelevant.
Macario Brown
Im not denying that, I’m saying this has been a narrative for some years now, specifically when KD went to the Warriors. It was used to form the narrative that no one on that team deserved the MVP due to the talent they had. It didn’t matter what came before.
Either they shouldn’t have used that then or they should continue to use it now. Consistency.
@@Frostshokula Also, you left out that the stat you gave is career average PER. When you look at single season PERs all time, then AD isn't 3rd. Top 10 are all Wilt, MJ, LeBron, Giannis
04-05 Phoenix Suns: Record: 62-20 (best in the NBA that yr)
04-05 Miami Heat: Record: 59-23
04-05 San Antonio Spurs: Record: 59-23
Steve Nash: GP:75, PPG:15.5, APG:11.5
Amare: GP:80, PPG:26.0, RPG:8.9
Marion: GP:81, PPG:19.4, RPG:11.3
Shaq: GP:73, PPG:22.9, RPG:10.4
D Wade: GP:77, PPG:24.1, APG:6.8
Tim Duncan: GP:66, PPG: 20.3, RPG:11.1
04-05 Phoenix had the best record in the NBA and Steve Nash was the "most valuable" player on that team. If we go by stats, we can argue Marion or Stat could have both won over Shaq. Heck even Duncan had similar stats to Shaq and Spurs had same record as the Heat that year. I'm tired of Shaq constantly saying publicly that Nash "stole" MVP from him that year. Nash didn't steal anything, he won fair and square. Props goes out to all the voters that year for voting Steve Nash and forever changing the award to "most valuable" than "best".
btw 05-06 wasn't even close.
Kobe deserved it. Especially 05-06
Mr. Bacon not really. He wasn’t even top 3 that year.
TRAM PHAN Kobe got hurt in 2005. But 2006 and 2007 were his.
Kobe should have had those MVPs...real ones know this simple facts
@@Mr3824KB he shoulda had 05-06 not 04-05 though
Let us just appreciate how good of a Analyst draymond is
Kenny with the assist to Chuck at the end by saying "don't forget about Alonzo Mourning too" LOL
Bruh 16? That's mad disrespectful bruh!!
He didn't deserve any
Yatharth Singaria 16 was 2 many
Like LeBron said, are we actually watching basketball. Because when y'all keep bringing AD, your not watching carefully!!!!
Maybe this is LeBrons "I took it personally" moment like MJ when Chuck won MVP instead of him
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Karl Malone too
Or kinda how ironically Lebron Won back to back in 2010 and Kobe won in the finals To prove he's still the best The league has
@@isaiaharmand8841 I feel like you're being passive aggressive here. I never said anything about Kobe being worse. And if you're not being passive-aggressive, I just want to say that I had to be careful. People dont like LeBron for whatever reason
Don't forget about Karl Malone as well
That Alonzo Mourning comment got me
"Same 💩 different day that feels the same" - Lebron James tweet on September 11. Let that sink in ....
end of the day it’s a regular season award
most ppl would still take LBJ for a playoff run
I have no argument against Chuck saying "people have the right to vote however they want". But I also completely agree with Bron feeling upset about how only 16 out of the 101 supposed elite basketball analysts voted for him. The success he accomplished in his 17th season, with a new roster, new coaching staff and playing in the superior conference. It's absurd how so many professionals dismissed the significance he contributed to he team.
That's narrative. I don't know why LeBron was mad. Narrative was in his favor. Giannis deserved the MVP that's why it wasn't even close. End of conversation
Lebron is passive asf during the season, AD should’ve been the 16 votes, look at his stats in comparison to Brons
Adding Draymond makes this show even better
“First of all you overrated” lmooo chuck is hilarious man
“Its 9 rings up here and you aint apart of that addition” bruh 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I disagree heavily with the notion that the "best player in the world" should win MVP. It's not "best" it's "valuable"
The Lakers would still be in the playoffs without LeBron. Davis, Howard, and everyone else there are at least star level. The Bucks would be lucky to finish above .500 without Giannis, as the second he went down against the Heat and was shut down, the series was over.
I get why LeBron is upset, because he's a competitor. But don't let the Bucks' early exit fool you into thinking Giannis didn't deserve that award.
JTVA lol Dwight? 😂😂 playoff but Championship is questionable..
What’s the plus minus with LeBron on and off the floor vs the bucks with giannis on an off the floor??? Just curious
The bucks would still be in the playoffs without giannis
Lakers were basically negative without LeBron on the court for them and in fact non-LeBron minutes were their main issues for most of the season. I would say the Bucks still make it as a 6th seed cuz the east is top heavy and the Lakers barely scrape an 8th seed spot. IMO it was 50/50 between LeBron and Giannis so i aint mad about this just saying some extra info.
And the first year harden won the rockets would of still easily made the playoffs without him that year they even had a winning record. LeBron had an unstoppable season that year n the Cavs were nothing without him that year. Waaaay more valuable n still didn't get it
It just amazes me that LeBron played in the East and all you heard was “the East is weak” so then he goes and dominated the West. Led the league in assists, had the lakers as the #1 seed, beat Giannis and Kawhi back to back... but that gets swept under the rug because LeBron has AD. That makes no sense. LeBron is the most VALUABLE to his team. You take LeBron off his team they are losing. Giannis team won a playoff game that he was not in 😂😂😂
Bron has been insane this year, no question. Chuck hit it when he mentioned AD, you give Giannis a player even close to AD, the Bucks would still be ballin.
If you can’t pass the 2nd round then how valuable are you?
Thats a good point, but match ups have favored the Lakers so far better than the Bucks. Still that isn't any excuse for the Bucks to lose cause I expected Giannis to overcome that.
Regular season award man
Jordan didn’t get to the playoffs until he was 28 Giannis is 25 he got time🤣🤷🏽
@@ericdupree8603 Favored matchups? Are you dumb? The lakers faced Portland, Rockets, and a Nuggets team who just beat the Clippers in 7 games. The Bucks faced the magic and a pretty good heat team. That's it. You think the Heat is a harder game than the Rockets who have the best scorer in the league? Get up out
They also win the game with him off the court, funny MVP year
Love or hate Kenny (I mean sometimes he just says things just for the sake of saying something) but his assists to Chuck are legendary.
They didn’t show LeBron’s issue with the voting system.
That's what's wrong right there one guy on the stage that has a vote. Same one guy on the stage that never played ball
Chuck is always the guy with the common sense.
I'm not saying Giannis doesn't deserve it, but that reasoning is not consistent. Westbrook never had the best record or even top 3 seed in the West. Steph had other All-Stars on his team and edged out Harden, KD, Bron etc...
@@koreypaul6698 russ averaged a triple double for the first time in 30 years nobody seen that.. Steph team was 73 9 and was the best shooter ever. Tell the context
@@flexermc4333 Very true. Russ did something we haven't seen in 30 years. LeBron is dominate at 35 years old in the Western Conference as the #1 seed. We haven't seen that *EVER*
@@flexermc4333 The "we haven't seen it before" argument is the best one for LeBron this year. If that's what we're going by. Makes my point that there is no consistency...
@@koreypaul6698 russ didn't have AD giving him 40 in any given night.
The NBA MVP is a regular season award, Giannis deserved it 100%! We’ve had similar instances where this has happened with Jordan (1988), Duncan (2002), Dirk (2007), and even LeBron himself in 2010. Even though they were eliminated relatively early in the playoffs they were still rightful winners.
LeBron is my guy but he had a regular season just at age 35 and also had AD which is a top 5 player which was second behind Ginnias in Dpoy. Ginnias had more Pts and Rebounds, higher PER, played both ends, and was number 1 in offensive and Defensive rating. So idk what Bron talking about, cause AD been playing lights out all year. Also Lakers Got two players to make first team all nba while Milwaukee had 1 player do it all. Ginnias is LeBron from 03-10 and will eventually break through
Dante Hardy Watching what LeBron said it’s still unclear to me if he’s actually mad that he didn’t win the award itself or if he’s more upset that he only got 16 votes.
Charles barkly
"You overrated Shaq" 🤣🤣
Recency bias is a crazy thing...
Lebron talked about narrative for the MIP and DPOY award, and how he lost it to second all-defensive team players in back-to-back years (Chandler 2012 - Gasol 2013) while he was on the first all-defensive team. He wasn't talking about narrative for the MVP award, he just said the criteria has changed since he joined the league. Anyways, we wouldn't be talking about this if the award had been given right after the Regular Season. It's just unfair for MVPs to potentially get the award after they got bounced from the Playoffs.
Giannis with great stats against hawks, hornets,Knicks, bulls that’s 16 games right there lol
So everyone that plays against these teams should have great stats but they don't so what was your point? Lol
@@STell743 being in the east you play more eastern conference games. They used to say the east was weak and used that arguement against LBJ winning MVP while in the east.
@@litchmoreandrew He won 4 in the East. So....your point?
You do realise Giannis’ stats are better against teams from the west.
Lol he wanna create legendary moments so bad man he know his fans gone ride that . “They made the king mad “ 😂
mommatoldme 😂😂💯thts all this is man . Watch lakers act the fool these next 2 series because they know they probably Won now
16 votes all ya deserve!