I remember trying deadlift for the first time with a couple of friends, I ended up tweaking my lower back and I couldn’t touch my toes for a couple days. Now I can deadlift 405 conventional with no pain. I always hang from a pull up bar for around 30 seconds and end my workout with reverse hypers.
Forcing myself to hip hinge via RDLs and getting much stronger at those has been pivotal in my deadlifting right and even understanding deadlifts in the first place. RDLs are a really good teaching tool as well as a hip hinge strengthener.
I was hyper-extending, fucked my back up every few months(pulled quadratus lumborum regularly) and of course could not progress, watched your bracing video, started bracing correctly, no longer hyper-extended, and well...broke squat and deadlift PR in a week not even sore the day after...so yeah thx a lot man!
Two things completely transformed my deadlift: (1) abs with an inhale. (2) lats pulling scaps straight towards hips. I *never* feel low back pain on deadlifts anymore, no matter how heavy. Hamstrings and glutes maybe, but never low back. This is following Swede Burns (this channel) and Chris Duffin (Kabuki strength).
Really interesting and informative. I'll be getting back into deadlifts shortly following some lower back issues and will use this as my template. Appreciate very much the content.
A couple things that have really helped my DL is core strength and hitting my glutes. By working those couple things my DL has steadily gone up. Also taking videos of myself doing the lift has helped me prefect my form.
An interesting and very thorough review of rehab or novice process in deadlifting. It has been my experience that any tweaks to my lower back come from squatting. I have a couple of old injuries that make my technique squirrely :)
have a history with a cracked pelvis and messed up my pelvis pulling a max sumo deadlift definitely going to use these to help build back up my deadlifts and have healthier hips
Well, after hours of correcting technique, hiring personal trainers, I still have issues with my back. Proper SI joints is what you need for deadlifting
The worse back pain I ever had was from unloading trucks working in retail. The repetitive lifting motion with bad form messed me up. Doesn’t matter how heavy or light something is, lifting poorly can wreck your back.
Messed up my bracing on a well below max pull (5 rep set) yesterday, felt something weird on my left lower back, but I finished the set. Fortunately the pain really kicked in while resting and I aborted the rest of the sets. May have to use some of these techniques to ease back into it when the pain eases up.
i rather just do trap bar dl and rdl. I can do conventional, but there is so small margin for error for hurting my back and since i'm not a powerlifter i don't need it, i get all the benefits from other variations. If i choose to do conventional dl then it would be singles with and RPE 6-7 or something like that
Same. Conventional deadlifts are my favorite lift, and always have been. But I've had a broken back, multiple leg surgeries, other joint issues, and I'm not competing, so I just stick to a trap bar and higher rep RDLs. I was lucky enough to never hurt myself deadlifting, but I don't see any reason to tempt fate at this point for no real reason. It would be different if I was competing, but I just don't need the risk at this point since I'm not.
Thank you for this video, I was about to take the scissors for a few laps around the pool. I guess I will just sit down and use them to cut out old magazine photos of John Meddows
I believe I strained my lower back, the chiropractor I went to believed is wasn’t a bulge. But now I’m super paranoid to go heavy. Should I start back with RDL for reps?
Question, Sam; (apologies if someone’s already brought this up) Are sumo pulls on your list for safer deadlifting, as far as the back is concerned? With multiple herniations over the years (none from training) and diagnosed with degenerative discs, I found sumo pulls to be much, much safer. My hams, hips and glutes naturally get stronger just from the positioning and the ROM is much less than conventional.
Absolutely. It is a good tool to use if you have the prerequisite mobility and technique down that makes it an actual sumo pull as opposed to a wide stance conventional that I tend to see a lot of
@@eliteftsofficial gracias! Yes it’s a wide stance, toes probably 3-4 inches from the plates using a standard DL bar. When I started, it felt very natural to me. I feel like my technique is solid, took about a year for me to say that though. Balancing at the top is a bitch, however.
no matter how I try to hinge I can never seem to take the pressure off my lower back deadlifting. It's a shame too because anything above 2 plates deadlift causes lower back pinches but I can comfortably squat 4 plates for reps. I'm 180 bw btw
Record your form and submit it to a lifting subreddit. You'll get plenty of feedback. If I had to guess, you are letting your bar path get away from you. When the bar swings out away from your legs your back has to engage more. When your bar path drifts away from your legs you move the center of mass away from your core and hips and into your back. If you feel neck stiffness after deadlifts you are 100% doing this.
If you lift conventional try putting your feet a bit closer together. Took me a long time to figure that out and I always felt a lot of pressure where my hips and lower back meet. Shoulder width maximum. Idk if it will work for you but with my body proportions it helped take the pressure off my back and put it more on my lower body.
When I start performing the deadlift I take my stance keeping my spine straight but when I try to pull the weight up my back gets rounded ..I tried things but this is still a problem for me ..And it usually happens when I try to lift heavy
Could be a bracing issue, could be an issue where you are not engaging your lats and back enough, or it could simply be a position that your hips are unable to get into for the time being.
Not a lift to "mess with" or "try" with your friends coaching.. I go to the local Y and see this ALL the time,, kids trying to teach other kids how to pull,,, using wayyyy to much weight and less than optimal technique,,, I'm 63 and have been deadlifting for 7 years with ZERO tweaks. I actually TRAIN the movement instead of going for PRS. I think this video does a misservice with its cliquebait. The deadlift ,, if trained properly is a powerful movement esp for older athletes. It will keep them out of the NURSING HOME.
"People not getting that it's a hip hinge" is definitely the driving force behind lower back issues with deadlifts.
I remember trying deadlift for the first time with a couple of friends, I ended up tweaking my lower back and I couldn’t touch my toes for a couple days. Now I can deadlift 405 conventional with no pain. I always hang from a pull up bar for around 30 seconds and end my workout with reverse hypers.
Went through this last fall. Back was so flared up I couldn't squat or DL. Love this type of content.
Forcing myself to hip hinge via RDLs and getting much stronger at those has been pivotal in my deadlifting right and even understanding deadlifts in the first place. RDLs are a really good teaching tool as well as a hip hinge strengthener.
I was hyper-extending, fucked my back up every few months(pulled quadratus lumborum regularly) and of course could not progress, watched your bracing video, started bracing correctly, no longer hyper-extended, and well...broke squat and deadlift PR in a week not even sore the day after...so yeah thx a lot man!
Glad to help!
Two things completely transformed my deadlift: (1) abs with an inhale. (2) lats pulling scaps straight towards hips. I *never* feel low back pain on deadlifts anymore, no matter how heavy. Hamstrings and glutes maybe, but never low back. This is following Swede Burns (this channel) and Chris Duffin (Kabuki strength).
Really interesting and informative. I'll be getting back into deadlifts shortly following some lower back issues and will use this as my template. Appreciate very much the content.
Glad you are getting some benefit from it.
thank you very much Sam, thank you very much Elitefts. I appreciate you
A couple things that have really helped my DL is core strength and hitting my glutes. By working those couple things my DL has steadily gone up. Also taking videos of myself doing the lift has helped me prefect my form.
Always a forgotten tactic to film yourself to HELP your technique....and not just post it to social. Great stuff!
Thanks! Wish I would have seen this last year. But I can now incorporate this in to my routine.
An exceptional video. Thanks
An interesting and very thorough review of rehab or novice process in deadlifting. It has been my experience that any tweaks to my lower back come from squatting. I have a couple of old injuries that make my technique squirrely :)
I figured this was a great topic to take a different perspective on and to give the audience some better insight into how this can help them
@@eliteftsofficial I agree - it was great. Now I need a fix for my squat - LOL! Thanks.
This is all well and good, but you promised me you’d tell me how to snap up my shit based on the title
I was expecting that too when I wrote my comment before watching the video
Coach Brown, THANK YOU ! This was so educational ! Much appreciated sir
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is the kind of content I enjoy from elitefts. Lets stay away from the overly meme'd content, pls.
have a history with a cracked pelvis and messed up my pelvis pulling a max sumo deadlift definitely going to use these to help build back up my deadlifts and have healthier hips
This is GOLD! Thank you!!!👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well, after hours of correcting technique, hiring personal trainers, I still have issues with my back.
Proper SI joints is what you need for deadlifting
The worse back pain I ever had was from unloading trucks working in retail. The repetitive lifting motion with bad form messed me up. Doesn’t matter how heavy or light something is, lifting poorly can wreck your back.
Messed up my bracing on a well below max pull (5 rep set) yesterday, felt something weird on my left lower back, but I finished the set. Fortunately the pain really kicked in while resting and I aborted the rest of the sets. May have to use some of these techniques to ease back into it when the pain eases up.
absolutely i hope it helps
I've had more lower back pain from squats than I have with deadlifting, in fact deadlifts have helped my lower back if anything
i rather just do trap bar dl and rdl. I can do conventional, but there is so small margin for error for hurting my back and since i'm not a powerlifter i don't need it, i get all the benefits from other variations. If i choose to do conventional dl then it would be singles with and RPE 6-7 or something like that
This thought process will benefit you for a long time. Taking the ego out and thinking logically will always help you progress.
Same. Conventional deadlifts are my favorite lift, and always have been. But I've had a broken back, multiple leg surgeries, other joint issues, and I'm not competing, so I just stick to a trap bar and higher rep RDLs. I was lucky enough to never hurt myself deadlifting, but I don't see any reason to tempt fate at this point for no real reason. It would be different if I was competing, but I just don't need the risk at this point since I'm not.
Thank you for this video, I was about to take the scissors for a few laps around the pool. I guess I will just sit down and use them to cut out old magazine photos of John Meddows
Much more sound decision making right there
Good chat! 👊
I believe I strained my lower back, the chiropractor I went to believed is wasn’t a bulge. But now I’m super paranoid to go heavy. Should I start back with RDL for reps?
Am I the only one who hates the trap bar for deadlift? I like it for shrugs and bent over row. I find it hard on my low back for deadlifts.
Question, Sam; (apologies if someone’s already brought this up)
Are sumo pulls on your list for safer deadlifting, as far as the back is concerned?
With multiple herniations over the years (none from training) and diagnosed with degenerative discs, I found sumo pulls to be much, much safer. My hams, hips and glutes naturally get stronger just from the positioning and the ROM is much less than conventional.
Absolutely. It is a good tool to use if you have the prerequisite mobility and technique down that makes it an actual sumo pull as opposed to a wide stance conventional that I tend to see a lot of
@@eliteftsofficial gracias! Yes it’s a wide stance, toes probably 3-4 inches from the plates using a standard DL bar. When I started, it felt very natural to me. I feel like my technique is solid, took about a year for me to say that though. Balancing at the top is a bitch, however.
no matter how I try to hinge I can never seem to take the pressure off my lower back deadlifting. It's a shame too because anything above 2 plates deadlift causes lower back pinches but I can comfortably squat 4 plates for reps. I'm 180 bw btw
Might be a good time to re-evaluate your bracing.
Record your form and submit it to a lifting subreddit. You'll get plenty of feedback. If I had to guess, you are letting your bar path get away from you. When the bar swings out away from your legs your back has to engage more. When your bar path drifts away from your legs you move the center of mass away from your core and hips and into your back. If you feel neck stiffness after deadlifts you are 100% doing this.
If you lift conventional try putting your feet a bit closer together. Took me a long time to figure that out and I always felt a lot of pressure where my hips and lower back meet. Shoulder width maximum. Idk if it will work for you but with my body proportions it helped take the pressure off my back and put it more on my lower body.
Can you tell us what kind of shoes you're wearing ❓
beatup old Reebok Nanos
For deadlifts, I dislike the term "pulling" from the floor. The deadlift is not a pull.......
Thanks for sharing that!
I don't believe anyone will have issue finding a bar in that gym.
My hips still sore from injuring it sumo deadlifting a fortnight ago, I have no real idea why but it sucks...unlike this informative video
When I start performing the deadlift I take my stance keeping my spine straight but when I try to pull the weight up my back gets rounded ..I tried things but this is still a problem for me ..And it usually happens when I try to lift heavy
Could be a bracing issue, could be an issue where you are not engaging your lats and back enough, or it could simply be a position that your hips are unable to get into for the time being.
Upper back required to be locked in tight. Focus on tight lower traps and lats. Focus on that more than anything else you do.
Not a lift to "mess with" or "try" with your friends coaching.. I go to the local Y and see this ALL the time,, kids trying to teach other kids how to pull,,, using wayyyy to much weight and less than optimal technique,,, I'm 63 and have been deadlifting for 7 years with ZERO tweaks. I actually TRAIN the movement instead of going for PRS. I think this video does a misservice with its cliquebait. The deadlift ,, if trained properly is a powerful movement esp for older athletes. It will keep them out of the NURSING HOME.
You can damage your shoulder on a bench press. You can destroy your knees on a squat.
Looking bigger Sam!
But coof! I thought we were supposed to protect and strengthen our backs!
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I just do sumo RDLs.
I could have written this video
Having some low back issues?
@@eliteftsofficial buddy(ies idk how many staff are involved in production) I am a low back issue. Got the costume and everything
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