Harald Harb: How I Carve Between Turns With a World-Class Balanced Float in Transition!
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- Carving Ski Transitions and Perfecting Alignment: A Harald Harb Skiing Masterclass!
Unlock the secrets to mastering ski transitions and achieving impeccable skier alignment in our second video. Harald Harb, a skiing icon with an illustrious career, brings his passion and expertise to guide you through the art of carving skis in and through transitions. Learn the nuances of skiing in parallel and direct parallel techniques, all while benefiting from Harald's decades of experience and his Primary Movements Teaching System (PMTS).
Harald's audio is great for the interview, but mine isn't so apologies for that and I cut out as much of myself as I could!
If you have ever wondered how to carve a shaped ski, then watch this video all the way through as some of the best information came out, just as we were wrapping up!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:20 Problem / Solution Ski Teaching
3:20 Same Release Problems
6:05 Touch Turn Drill
9:15 Free Foot Phantom Move
11:43 Skiing Balance
15:12 No Wedge / Direct Parallel
16:40 Skier Alignment
19:10 PMTS
27:45 Boot Fitting vs Alignment
31:35 Balanced On All 4 Edges
35:35 Relaxing To Release
40:45 The Float
47:20 Ingraining Right vs Wrong Movements
40:45 The Float
51:41 Tipping
Harald Harb: A Skiing Legend's Journey
Embark on a skiing journey inspired by Harald's remarkable career. From his early days teaching skiing at 15 to clinching medals at the Canadian National Junior Championships, Harald's trajectory set him on a path to greatness. Proudly representing Canada in international events, he became the champion of the "Overall Eastern Regional US Pro Championships" in 1973.
Seamless Transition to Coaching
Witness Harald seamlessly transition from professional skiing to coaching in 1973. As the Head Coach at Stratton Mt School and the founder of the Mt Washington Valley Educational Foundation, he left an indelible mark on skiing education. His coaching legacy continued in Alaska, where he directed a school for skiers and led the Alyeska Ski Race Program.
Innovations and Entrepreneurship in Skiing
Harald's contributions extend beyond racing and coaching. Selected for the US National Demonstration Team, he founded Harb Ski Systems in 1998, pioneering ski innovation. Author of three best-selling ski books, including "Harald Harb's Essentials of Skiing," he introduced the revolutionary PMTS Direct Parallel ski teaching system, Harb Carvers, and Ski Boot Canting plates.
Author, Instructor, Entrepreneur: A Triple Threat
Harald's impact on skiing education is unparalleled. Teaming up with Diana Rogers, they authored best-selling books and produced instructional videos that have revolutionized ski learning. From their Dumont, Colorado ski shop, they offer boot fitting, equipment customization, and alignment services to skiers seeking the pinnacle of carving skis.
Ski Camps and Cutting-Edge Ski Shop
Since '99-'00, Harald and Diana have been running instructional ski camps, catering to skiers of all levels. Their Dumont, Colorado ski shop, established in '02-'03, specializes in offering the best in carving skis and provides expert boot fitting, equipment customization, and alignment services.
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When I came back to skiing in '96 I wanted to ski the whole mountain well. Shaped skis were just becoming a thing and I wanted to learn how to get the most out of this new technology.
I looked around at traditional ski teaching. It was confusing, not specific to my goals. And they were still teaching the wedge. The new shaped skis were changing the sport, but ski lessons were stuck in the past. So I kept looking.
Somehow I found Lito Tejada-Flores' seminal video, "Breakthrough On The New Skis". Lito's pitch was "alternative ski instruction". Being a Deadhead, counter culture appealed to me. Shaped skis were new, I wanted to learn a method that applied to this new technology -- not the old straight skis.
In Lito's video was Harald. Harald looked different than the other skiers in the video. His style, particularly how well he used his hands, stuck out.
So I looked Harald up. Harald's message of skiing well is about learning balance made perfect sense. I bought his first book "Anyone Can Be An Expert Skier".
I quickly advanced using the lift and tip (Stenmark's move) and started skiing all mountain. Not because I'm gifted. Because by learning PMTS I was learning balance.
Harald's second book "Anyone Can Be An Expert Skier 2 - Powder, Bumps, And Carving" introduced me to releasing and counter balancing. I was skiing better than I'd imagined, having a ball.
Harald's 3rd book "Essentials" (2006?) followed up on book 2. It introduced new drills to help my refine releasing, tipping, and counter balancing movements.
28 years later I'm 64. All I think about in my skiing are what Harald teaches in his 3 books - particularly the importance of hands, the upper body, and the inside free foot.
I balance on my edges. I ski where it's safest - bumps, glades, and steeps. When I'm off, I'll watch a couple of Harald's RUclips videos to get dialed in again.
Do I look like Harald? No. IMO looking like Harald isn't the point. The point is to apply what Harald teaches.
My skiing career could end tomorrow and I'd be thrilled. I've made every turn, skied the most challenging terrain in America with confidence. All thanks to what Harald teaches. And of course, lotsa practice.
Thanks Harald,
Wow, well said. Your comment speak volumes for the thousands of the grateful skiers out there who have discovered Harald and tapped into his books, videos, programs, and camps. Have a great season!
Thank you for this write up. You got me interested in reading his books.
Pure Gold from one of the best ski instructors in the world!
And this could have been the PSIA teaching system if they had paid attention to Harald years ago.
Thanks for your comments, yes there is a lot of gold in here. The more times we can capture Harald's knowledge the better!
Harald Harb is a genius. I started to learn skiing last year without an instructor, just by watching his videos. Now I can ski much better than most of my friends who have skied for years. I can do all types of snow and slopes. I am still not able to keep the skis close together but I am planning to work on it using a pair of gloves between my skis as he suggests in his tach yourself, or learn how to ski series, I do not remember which.
Awesome to hear how well things are going. Thank you for sharing your experience and positive comments. Harald's crowd are such great humans! FYI a decent sized car washing sponge makes the 'glove' task easier to begin with. We spent plenty of time doing this drill with Harald as I came to Harald with a comfort zone built from hundreds of days skiing misaligned, pushing and seeking the big toe in transition, and (world class) knee driving. This drill helped me a lot to build a new comfort zone around relaxing to release while allowing the stance ski to flatten from its big to edge and then continue over to the little to edge through transition (as it becomes the free foot) and into the high C part of the turn.
Performance check: If skiing narrow with dynamic balance is still difficult after the glove drill, it may not be just movements, you might want to investigate getting your alignment looked into also if you haven't already.
When investigating performance I observed and created this Big Game IP from my time with Harald and coaching 1,000's of skier athletes to come up with this 'simple' formula:
Your Winning Formula + A Winning Nature = A Big Game Performance.
When you get this right, it is amazing, as your performances jump levels when your Big Game Performances 'Naturally Shows Up'. The reason for saying 'Naturally' is that here at BGA we train a Winning Nature at the 'Unconscious Level' to power your Winning Formula. When this comes together it is also described as being in the zone or a flow state where time stands still as you can access everything you need to make that turn, carve that race gate, win that race or whatever you want.
Sounds like you already have a Winning Nature as do all Harb enthusiasts.
So the reason for mentioning optimal alignment is because it's a significant factor in your skiing Winning Formula. I wish every skier in the world could experience skiing with optical alignment as it just feels right! And it also equals the best opportunity for achieving dynamic balance. Saying it another way - skiing is two different sports. Skiing With Optimal Alignment vs Skiing with Poor Alignment. The good news is you may already have optimal alignment or be very close. When skiers progress rapidly, a naturally good to great alignment is usually a factor. But just keep it in the back of your mind, if you find the task harder than you think it should be over time.
But... regardless of your current alignment on a scale from 0 to 10 (ten being optimal) the work you put in with Harald drills, especially the glove drill, will definitely pay off now and in the future. All the best!
Thanks, Damian, I've never been called a genius before.
Absolutely loved Part 2..so many Golden Nuggets given by HARALD. Reminded me of a few areas I need to refocus some energy.
Thank Guys...Great Work..
Thanks Jeff, yes plenty to think about and introduce or reintroduce into the float and through transition to maintain functional balance for ease of entry from one turn to the next. Bring on those High C turns!
Thank you again for another outstanding interview with Harald. Hearing him speak to the PMTS movements while sharing the history of how he developed and refined PMTS reinforces that PMTS is based on deep experience and observation. To me, PMTS was intuitive from the outset (I've been following Harald and PMTS closely since his first book). But so many skiers and instructors, especially those who started skiing prior to the shaped-ski era, seem resistant or skeptical when introduced to PMTS. These interviews will, hopefully, provide the background and context to expand the adoption of PMTS to more aspiring expert skiers. Once a skier has the ability to harness gravity with the rhythm, grace, and dynamism of PMTS movements, they experience the full joy of skiing. Thank you again.
Thanks for your comment and well said! For me, it's like I had two ski careers. The first was misaligned with big toe movements in transition which led to slow times in the race course, knee injury, and an early retirement from ski coaching. After meeting Harald, my second career was aligned skiing, using efficient movements like The Phantom Move in transition, and eventually working my way up to the top of the field in ski coaching and racing. I am grateful for both careers, but I am never letting go of career two, as it's way easier on the body and so much more fun!
Love these tutorials. Finding the expertise to provide the boot setup discussed is not easy. I would suggest near impossible.
His system is the best, I have all 3 of his books, all the DVDs, I went to a camp, I ordered a couple digital videos by Diana, his partner. What made the biggest difference in my skiing is his concept of pulling back (and tipping) the downhill ski upon initiation of the new turn.
Great to know you are kicking goals with Harald's concept especially the pulling back and tipping the downhill ski to the little to edge, that transformed my skiing after I got to ski with Harald in Telluride around 1997. His advice worked wonders for me back then and I am glad to her it's still working today! all the best with your season.
Me and ny wife got into skiing this winter. Were taught snowplow turns (for a lot of money) only to find out that we would have to learn a completely different set of skills to ski parallel.
Got angry, started digging around and found PMTS. Got the book, watched the videos on Harald's YT channel, went from snowplow to parallel skiing on green slopes in a weekend.
Later, over the course of another weekend, worked through Harald's book with the wife's sister, who also wanted to try skiing (she doesn't know English, so needed me to translate the text and YT video explanations).
By the end of that weekend had her parallel skiing a green slope.
Never bothered to teach her snowplow.
PMTS is the way.
Too bad I wasted time and money on conventional snowplow lessons from 'certified instructors'.
Have been telling everyone and their dog about PMTS.
Bless you, Harald!
Glad you found Harald and had some great results not just with your skiing but with teaching others as well. Keep up the great work.
Excellent! Thank you, Harold.
Thanks for you comments.
Thank god for someone talking sense! (Arguably, of course I won't learn by selectively listening to things I agree with - but that is separate debate.)
This early swapping of the edges and committing to the opposite angulation sounds very comparable to what I interpreted and extrapolated out of a dozen different ski school teachings (British and European) fifteen and more years ago.
My mental intent was, more actively than you seem to describe it, to steer the skis across under me still edged uphill of my centre of gravity, rather than passively letting myself "tip" sideways over the top of them, whilst momentarily sucking myself down to sitting (necessarily back seat as you describe) with the thought of avoiding generating an upward velocity in my body while my legs crossed under me.
The sit-down I found had to be quickly followed by using the top of my feet to strongly hoik myself forward again.
Then allowing the new edge as far as possible to track exactly where it was running (in agreement with you, minimising any panicking urgency to rotate it into a skid) out above me until the curved edge pushed me downhill then sideways then eventually uphill.
This sideways acceleration could give the surreal sensation that “downwards” rotated from up the mountain to across then to normal.
I think this somewhat matches what you are describing.
None of the current "Get these feet apart or you'll fall over!" which I am not taking to at all well.
Thanks for sharing. If you can take what Harald is saying and then re intemperate into how you already think of skiing then I suspect you are on the right track! Such a great group of skiers in here, all here for the right reasons, getting better at skiing, and sharing their expertise. Be nice to grab a few turns with all of the positive commenters in here one day. All the best with your skiing this season...
here's my thought: i coached with harald in alaska in 1988, and i ski raced in the 1970s and 80s. and i still ski fairly old school. i'd like to see a comparison video by harald: on the left "old school" skiing, weight on the downhill ski, releasing, movement to the next downhill ski; on the right, PMTS. i'd like to hear harald talk about the difference in technique through the video. cheers -
Ok, we are on it, stay tuned, and thanks for the feedback...
I’m astounded to discover such an intelligent teacher. I’m discovering skiing in my forties and I’ve been struggling. Through instructors at Winter Park, I’ve heard the name Harald Harb and only now, thanks to RUclips, do I discover such a brilliant mind. I’m going to study his channel, read his books and maybe even sign up for his instruction classes. I want my skiing to be effortless, balanced and not the physical workout and laborious movement that I have now. Harald reminds me of Terry Laughlin, the swim coach who revolutionized the teaching of freestyle swimming via balance drills.
Thank you for your comments and yes, I too was astounded to meet Harald almost 25 years ago. He was telling me the very same thing back then and as an Australian ski writer and a retired (at 22 years old) ski instructor due to injury from misalignment, I was super knocked kneed but didn't know it, and we got to work on my alignment as a step 1. I was so impressed I went to my editor here and I said - we have to write about this guy! We ran pages and pages on Harald, his alignment and Primary Movements Teaching System every year for over a decade. I was able to rebuild and recover from chronic knee soreness, once aligned in skiing and on my bike, and I had a second career ski coaching Harald stuff, after retiring from skiing, I took up masters ski racing and after learning how to get out of my own way and bring my Big Game, I was able to win even picking up a $10,000 at one race, all thanks to Harald! So the good news is, my advice is - to get to his Alignment Store which is less than an hour away from Winter Park. That's so much closer to Harald than me living here in Australia!! I suggest you get your alignment sorted first, it's a key component to establishing your dynamic skiing balance. Learning his movements and working on your dynamic skiing balance is way easier once you have achieved optimal alignment. (Note: your alignment may already be spot on - but best to have it checked and know by the experts!) harbskisystems.com/pages/ski-shop FYI... Here is the alignment process I would take clients through when I ran my own Harb Ski Camps in Canada and Australia, that Harald and Diana taught me. I assume it's similar or improved now. Step 1. Off snow... We did the assessment where we take a series of measurements (54) of your lower body and foot function and recorded them. Harald has a database of over 20,000 assessments now. Then we would assess your boots, footbed, liner, setup, skis, binding delta based on your specific foot and lower leg functions, and explain everything based on our measurements... and we would then walk you through what's working for you, what isn't and build a plan to move you to optimal alignment. At Camp, I would have also already seen you ski, and videoed runs balancing on all four edges and a straight run and some regular turns as well. But once you have done this for a while, you can get amazing results just from indoors, as you get to see both on snow and indoors so as an experienced Harb-trained alignment specialist - you can get really close just indoors as you have the experience of both. But it's always best to have your dynamic balance re checked on snow, if that's possible. I am not sure how they do that at the shop now, but I am sure you can work something out. Once your alignment is sorted, start with Harald's most popular video - The Phantom Move, and go from there! Plus yes the books and videos are incredibly helpful. I used to ski with my autographed copy of Harald's Anyone Can Be an Expert Skier book, in my jacket, and pull it out on the slopes of Beaver Creek, when I was working there! Gosh almost three decades ago. One of our next videos will be on the Phantom Move unless we change our minds! Best of luck. PS I used to race triathlon, once my knees were healed after meeting Harald, and 18 months off all sports to fully recover, and one of my Harb guys, Jeff Tan, put me onto Total Immersion Swimming, loved it, so your comparison from my experience is spot on. Welcome to the out there common sense community!
ok, the short(er) answer to the above is - if you want to optimize your skiing and take it to new levels - step 1 optimize your alignment - as the difference is night and day between skiing aligned vrs misaligned - otherwise they are two different sports! How do I know this? Because my first ski coaching career I was misaligned and I got mixed results and my knees developed chronic pain, so bad that I couldn't walk down a flight of stairs without supporting most of my boy weight on the railing (at age 22!). After meeting Harald, I healed my chronic knee soreness and over time, as I was always scared to push too hard, I regained full knee function,. I returned to ski coaching and every day even teaching beginners and intermediates, my skiing improved, because we teach expert movements in Harald's system After retiring from ski coaching (as second time!!), I had another successful career Masters racing, where again I took things slowly again, as chasing high performance skiing had destroyed my knees and my confidence in the past, but as each season past, my confidence in my knees and myself grew, and eventually I developed into a successful ski racer. All that's to Harald and his training - and a little bit of work - ok a lot of work on my part! So I am a pretty good case study!
@@BigGameAcademy thank you for the comprehensive advice, you are a true gentleman! I will definitely stop by Harb’s shop as we only live 26 miles away! I’ve got my work cut out for me, which is great. Before I discovered your channel and that of Harald, I was more or less mindlessly skiing hoping to miraculously converge to expert skiing. Now I have plan and a system to study!
Skiing Career 1: Misaligned (4.5 degrees knocked kneed left / 3 degrees knocked kneed right)+ inefficient movements trying to release and transfer by pushing off the big toe edge to a new big toe edge = poor results, the bottom half of the ski school and resulted in crippling injury - ski racing at the back of the field. by 14 seconds to the National Guys.
Skiing Career 2: Aligned + efficient movements by relaxing the stance leg into transition and transferring balance to the little toe edge of the free foot - The Phantom Move = excellent results. Year 1 was still the bottom half of the ski school (as I was still eliminating my old movements) but over time by year 7 top of the ski school - ski racing year one I was still at the back of the field but by year 7 only half a second behind the National Development Team Racers. and winning my age group against ex Olympians...
This is why I am so excited to help share Harald's message, as it simply works when you put in the work!
To figure all of this out, I spent weeks with Harald, even moving into his home pre-and post season, learning all I could from watching, listening, and asking endless questions. I was building my Skiing Winning Formula, even though I didn't fully realize it then. I did all of his training also and qualified as one of his coaches. After a few seasons running Harb Camps in Canada and Australia, I got there less and less as we got busier. I am so grateful for the time skiing with Harald and for the 95% of the other time skiing by myself and coaching others - as this is where I learned how to self-coach myself. This led me to develop the Big Game Academy and my Big Game IP, which is inspired by my time with Harald and what I learned (the hard way) through ski racing. My Big Game IP is the ability to self-coach yourself by identifying and combining your Winning Formula with a Big Game Mindset to achieve great things. Figuring out the second piece, a Big Game Mindset, is what truly elevated my results, as this is the trickiest part because most of it plays out at the unconscious level. But I was able to figure this part out, once again by applying Harald's training, where I was taught to focus on the single most important element. When you do this when taking on your own unconscious mind - you can begin to see things for what they really are! That's how I was able to build up a deep understanding of how the unconscious mind works for and against us, piece by piece, and how to take control of your unconscious and turn it to your advantage. It's what I am passionate about sharing and teaching today via the Academy in an easy-to-follow step-by-step process - that has taken me three decades of pondering, questioning, and trial and error with input from the best of the best to fully figure out - because you won't learn this stuff in school!
Yeah... I do thing the wedges/slow plough really encouraging a lot of bad habits. I guess I was the victim of it, which it really took me a lot of effort to move on to the intermediate level. Not to mention those bad habits was still keep affecting my improvements after years of skiing...
It's like every turn you have a choice in transition to either go big toe edge and push and fight gravity or relax, shorten, and bend the stance ski leg and allow it to flatten and embrace gravity. Two options - wildly different results.
A real genius..!!!
Spot on!
I have been been guided by Harold's books for many years, for about as long as I have had my current set of skis. I am 70 years old and enjoy skiing blue trails, with tipping being such an important part of Harolds system, in your opinion, what would the suggested waist width on my new skis? Thanks much for these excellent interviews and thank you Harold for for all the tips that have allowed me to enjoy my favorite sport.
Me too, I'm 72. I went to one of his clinics, I have all the books and have seen so many of his videos, I ordered the DVD set back before digital. I really like "Anyone Can Be an Expert Skier II" the best out of the 3 books. I don't like the way "Essentials" is organized. "II" is more linear. The biggest breakthrough in my skiing was his concept of tipping and pulling back that old downhill ski that becomes the free ski and moving and keeping it close to the other ski.
Great to hear your skiing is going well and thank you for sharing your experiences with applying Harald's Primary Movements.
Glad to here the tipping and pulling back, the Phantom Move is working so well for you, stay tuned as one of the next videos will be a deep dive into that! Thanks for your comments and feedback.
Hi Mike, I know Harald tends to recommend narrower waisted skis. The ideal here is... Have you had your alignment looked at? Any chance you can get to Harald's store in Colorado? As this is the ideal, as you build an world class alignment from the ground up. Ideal and optimized Boots, footbeds, liners, canting, shimming, binding delta etc. And then ski selection. You may already be spot on, but always best to invest the time to know 100%. With that said, if that's not possible, I plan on doing a video on ski selection with Harald, plus (like a PGA Tour what's in your bag) and go through all of Harald's skis and why! If you can hold out for that one. If you can't wait, as it may be a month or two, you can join this Facebook group, skiers over 60, that Harald runs and ask directly in the group: facebook.com/groups/141449078836551 as I am sure there are plenty of members in there with the same question. Finally, from me, I follow Harald's advice. My current ski is a Head Worldcup Rebels I.SL 170 cm which is 69 mm waist. Its 2016 model, as I don't ski as much as I did atm. This is a race construction heavy slalom ski, and is great for carving on piste. I am 57. 6'2" 185 pounds. I got that ski as Harald said I would love it, and he was 100% right. it's a serious ski. Before then I skied the original (and best!) HEAD Supershape and then they stopped making it, when I was in the market for new skis, otherwise I would have gotten another one of those,. The good news is they re released it and it is now called the SUPERSHSPE E-ORIGINAL PERFORMANCE SKI - which is even narrower around 66 mm waist - I'd probably go back to that ski, now that it is available again, as it's a little more versatile than my current ski. I skied that ski all over the mountain and up to waist deep power in Ferine for abut five seasons, (but it's not exactly designed for all mountain skiing!) it's best on the groomers, so I know it really well. But I always like to check in with Harald in case there is something better! As he gets to test skis each year. I was a ski tester here in Australia for 17 years, back in the day also, but again, that was a previous life! So I am not up to date with the latest gear...
Very much appreciate for your feedback, its very helpful and I'm definitely looking forward to your next video. Thanks much @@BigGameAcademy
Awesome presentation !! Harb Ski Systems ( nobody better )
Thank you for you comment and agree 100%!
What would you tell someone who wanted to ski steep bumps fall line, but slower. Without increasing turn radius. Would a flatter ski be appropriate versus more of a tipped or higher edged ski? i.e a skidded turn?
Great question, that I will need to put to Harald.
Now can you use this new style of skiing on Straight Skies??
Howdy, thanks for your question, yes it works on straight skis. It works even better when your alignment is optimal. Stay tuned for the next video as we plan to show some videos of the great skiers through history, and get Harald's feedback on when they are using Primary Movements and his Phantom Move.
@@BigGameAcademy OK, I tried it yesterday , I have 42 year old skies Hexcel Sundance 2's straight skies. I ski very well on them, I found that to get to the other edge in a turn, you have to have a pole plant to release you into the next turn with the inside leg light and the proper lead change. Balance was a issue on the straight skies, come paired to the Newer skies today! I couldn't lift my inside leg to help turn with my straight skies but I can with Newer skies and it works Great!
@@RoyDPowell-Royalmae Wow, it's way harder on straight skis. here is a clip of Ingemar Stenmark making The Phantom Move under race conditions for inspiration but sounds like you have it sorted, well played! - ruclips.net/video/fEgcYVnUpAo/видео.html
Send me to your progression of lesson one, not using the wedge
I raced in the ‘70s and only taught in the last 10 years. I’m not eye to eye with PSIA…
Peter Unless you can have another PMTS skier watch you. I myself still struggle with the PMTS. I have Three DVD's of Harald watched them a thousand time. still just a struggling intermediate. I believe it's the best way to ski but it still blows my mind that no one here on the east coach teaches it. Please explain that to me. All these people who has been to his camps and nobody teaches it here. next time your talking to Harald you ask him if his PMTS is the easiest way to become a great skier why is there nobody in the east coast
Great question. I'll be interested in Harald's thoughts as well. There may be some coaches on the East Coast there are chat groups dedicated to this (you may need to sign up - its free): www.pmts.org/pmtsforum/viewforum.php?f=5. I suspect one of the main reasons has to do with as a regular traditional ski coach that's part of a national system, you don't have the option to teach anything else. Hang in there, the more you can learn how to self-calibrate your own PMTS skiing the better. I know Harald plans to talk about this and how to self calibrate yourself on the hill - it's mind blowing what Harald does! Less than optimal alignment might be a factor for you. Harald's system of working on and improving dynamic balance is easiest with optimal alignment. One of the best way to understand Harald's system is to coach it to others (speaking from experience of nine seasons as a Harb camp instructor). When you are the one out in front, and being relied on to make their day, I find your brain works doubly hard to solve problems plus it seems to help you to be better at noticing things that work in your own skiing and demonstrations, so you also find your self-calibration ability becomes more attuned to efficient skiing. Lastly best to work on PMTS at slow speeds, you would be amazed how slow we skied at our race camps, when working on new drills. Harald likes to take speed away, so you have to figure out how to really balance dynamically without the crutch of speed. All the best.
@fourftr, definitely join the forum. There's a good chance you'll find somebody or somebody who knows somebody who's into PMTS in your area who you could ski with.
Even if you don't find anybody to ski with, if you can get somebody to take video of your skiing, you can post it online and the forum gang can analyze your movements, give you feedback and suggest PMTS exercises to work on.
This may help you understand the situation. Harald teaches techniques that top racers use to become expert skiiers. Its not about easier or harder but is a different technique than what is taught by the majority of ski schools who are only permitted to teach recreational intermediate skidded skiing. Fundamentally Harald teaches skiing on your edges while maintaining balance through correct movements to bend the skis and carve to turn.
The sport of skiing used to require ski weeks to gain reasonable access to ski green slopes just to accomplish wedge turns. With PMTS you can achieve a parallel turn in one day if you have the stamina. Becoming "great" or even becoming an expert at any sport requires dedication and a complete package of training and coaching. PMTS is the most direct route to becoming an expert. A major influence in your journey to expert skiing is having your ski boots set up properly which is a large part of our Harb Ski Systems program. Without this component, you can struggle for years even with the best PMTS coaching. The ski industry downplays this aspect of ski learning because the training and application required to do this correctly are extensive. A proper boot setup can immediately change your skiing, so if you aren't having the success you are expecting, it's most likely your ski boots. More than 80% of skiers can improve their skiing with the proper boot, boot fit, and boot setup.
HH is great. But I have not seen him talk enough about hip leveling. Tipping can not occur easily unless you have complimentary tilting in the pelvic bone (inside hip high). This is the primary flaw in ALL instruction / coaching. Everyone tells student skiers to start the turn from the feet/skis by tipping, but you literally can not perform this motion unless the pelvic bone also tilts!
The skis as bounded by the snow surface, the legs, and the pelvic bone form essentially a 4-bar parallelogram linkage. If you tip the skis...the pelvic bone most tip/tilt at the same time. If you do not level the hip enough, the leg motions will not work. No one seems to explain this to skiers starting to learn to carve. They tell them over and over that tipping the skis starts with the feet, from the snow up. BS. The hip leveling / pelvic bone tilt must happen at the exact same time. It is a complex compound motion. Telling students to start at the snow...and NOT telling them "oh yeah...you have to hike up your inside hip) is the #1 reason tipping is hard to learn.
Watch MS doing a hip leveling drill to understand and see with your own eyes how much active and strong hip leveling increases the EASE with which you can top the skis on edge.
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Watch 13s-23s especially. You can literally see the 4-bar parallelogram I mention. If you to not tilt the pelvic bone, the whole motion breaks down. There is a reason the best technical skier in the world does drills like this....
Also..the "switch" in pelvic bone tilt IS literally the start of the transition. The way you take weight off the old loaded ski is a combination of pelvic bone tilt and bending the inside leg....and in my experience, the pelvic bone tilt portion is more important....because it has a more profound effect...the body is very sensitive to changes in tilt at the end of the turn.
Harald does in fact talk about the importance of "hip levelling" in his PMTS ( it's a part of Counter Balance). Hip levelling is not a primary movement but it is linked with tipping the feet. With quick short turns the hip levelling will happen almost the same time as tipping occurs.
@@markbaldock6659 Saying that tipping the skis on edge is a "primary movement", and "hip leveling" is not is just nonsense BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE SAME COMPOUND COMPLEX MOTION. This cuts right to the heart of the flaw I see in all instruction, including HH. Hip leveling IS tipping the ski on edge.
The legs, are two opposite sides of a kinematic parallelogram. This skis bounded by the snow surface and the pelvic bone are the other opposite sides. Look at a parallelogram. You can not change the angle of one side, without ALSO changing the angle of the opposite side. They are linked. So, when you designate tipping the skis on edge a primary movement, and the hips something else, you are fundamentally mischaracterizing what is going on. THEY ARE LITERALLY THE SAME MOTION. They happen at the same time. Hip leveling IS tipping the skin on edge. Period end of story.
Most of the young skiers that way say "look how talented he/she is..." are just those who naturally, without even knowing they are doing it, tilt their pelvic bone in the right way, at the same time, as ski tipping. In other words, they just naturally move the opposite side of the parallelogram. This is about 10% of skiers. Most skiers fight tipping by NOT understanding that they have to tilt in the frontal plane, so their lower body is fighting itself.
That is why you see Mikaela doing this:
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Do you EVER see her hip tilt and the ski tipping NOT happen at the same time? LOL...no. They are the same motion. Nothing shows this any more clearly than MS doing this hip hike drill.
@shooter7a I agree with what you are saying, it is a lot simpler and I also ski and think that way. HH defines the same movements differently, in less cohesive terms and not so holistically. I think with way he describes his movements he is trying to get skiers not to hip dump, lean or extend to push their weight downhill.
@@markbaldock6659 The easiest way NOT to hip dump is to tilt keep the hips square to the direction of travel, and tilt. Watch that clip of Mikaela. See how the pelvic bone stays square to the direction of travel. Failing to explain how to move the hips is one of the reasons people hip dump. You tell them to carve by tipping the skis...but fail to tell them they ALSO have to tilt at the same time so the motion works. Then, they can't make it work, and because they do not tilt, they engage is other incorrect motions (a-framing most of the time, but also hip dumping) to get the skis to tip. Hip dumping is what happens for some people when you do not explain how to move the hips. So that explanation of why HH uses terms that he does makes no sense at all. Just explain the full motion. Hips must tilt at the same time the skis tip.
@shooter7a You should be talking with HH, it's his descriptions of movements not mine. I've already said the description you use is simpler.