Test Normal Risk vs High Risk on a 75 3pt. I have a feeling it’s almost unmakable on normal risk with a low rating, but people with higher rating can get away with it
wow thanks for the appreciation man! I always try to get some sense on why certain types of results happen. To be honest, i can just keep it myself but I find it better if I can share it so you guys can have better understanding on how the game works. Again, thanks for the appreciation!
You should test the difference between mid range and 3pt ratings Like if you had a 93 middy and 81 3 pt how much do the badges effect the shooting % vs 93 3pt and 81 middy how much the rating actually impacts the % Just wanna know if there’s. huge difference cause i swear middy the way to go
I think what most people are missing is that lightning launch and on ball pest directly go against each other. However is the two are the same badge tier on ball pest will always win(in the sense of not allowing a blow by) if lightning launch is one tier higher you will get consistent blow by animations
Thank you for doing the second chart. I don't understand why other badge testers don't do this. You have no idea if it's the badge or the attributes improving the tested skill when there are two variables at play. Super valuable.
Hey Tutes, I like the idea of showing the difference of the badges at the same attribute rating. It's applicable when considering where to use your max+1, and it does show that it's worth it to go from gold to hof using it for the 6'3s with 91 swb.
so just to be clear. If i have a 86 speed with ball and max +1 my lightning launch from gold to hall of fame i won’t see that big of a difference but if i use my cap breakers to get from 86 to 91 speed with ball i’ll see a difference?
So me having a 75 swb which gets it on silver, I probably shouldn’t waste my max +1 to make it gold since there isn’t that big of a jump. Probably better to move set shot to HOF
@@alexhajehi did the same and plan to use my +1 on something else now. Swb stat seems important and has helped me a lot but the badge doesnt seem to boost much
I love all the badge tests you do. I’m guessing you test all the badges on the same attribute overall. Suggestion I have is to maybe test badge levels paired up with minimum attribute requirement at that badge? I’m sure a silver badge with 99 overall gives different results to silver badge with the 84 requirement
It would be nice if you could do like a good threshold for every attribute or at least the important ones later on in the year I know you are occupied testing badges and it takes time
LISTEN LOCKS! The on ball menace badge usually stops this badge about 4/5 times if its at the same tier So bronze on ball menace stops bronze lightning launch My suggestion is to put it on gold since most ball handlers have lightning launcher on gold But for my ball handlers i suggest yall put lightning launcher on hof since most locks is at 92 perimeter defense
Thanks for all your tests!! My question tho - what gives the boost really here? Is it the 3 attribute points from lets say 91swb to 94swb to give the boost - or is it the badge that fires up the boost? In other words - if you got lets say 91 swb HOF badge - and you do not upgrade attribute points but upgrade your badge to LEGEND - will you still have that boost? That goes for various badges and attribute points actually - have you ever tested that? Since the game mechanic this year allows it
I feel like all badge testing should be done with an isolated attribute, test the badge then test the attribute rating seperately so they each show indivudal effects even if its not "realistic"
how are your test vids and 2klabs test vids so different when testing the same things. they released the same video few weeks ago not showing that jump from HOF lightning to legend lightning or the small jump from gold to hof. its hard to make a build around this kind of stuff when yalls test show diff results. this isnt the first one where yall had different results too i believe
Hey tutes I watched your interior video and I’ve understood that interior is very important this year. Would you say 82 interior is enough for a 6’7 center with 7’3 wing span?
mistake I made on my first build and immediately regretted the second I played on a build with 91 swb. the difference is night and day, felt like I couldn’t get open at all with 86.
Made a 6’4 big body iso lock, at the SF I feel gold is plenty cause you’re usually gonna be up against slower matchups, as a guard I can definitely see going higher to HoF tho
I have 60 steal with bronze interceptor and whilst I’m still getting bump steals and interceptions regularly I would suggest going at least to silver interceptor (which is 73 steal I think)
I can't really say who's more correct. I showed you guys the thought process behind my tests so it's up to the viewers now to decide which one they think they can rely more. At the end of the day, it's really hard for both our results to be 100% the same. Testings on this level is basically just smart estimations and can fluctuate depending on lots of moving variables.
Can you do a video showing how/if attaining a higher badge on OBoard/DBoard will affect the other? Like if you have 96 OBoard which gives HOF Rebound Chaser, will that mean you grab Defensive Boards at HOF level as well? People tend to think that. It is only 1 chaser badge but I feel like it doesn’t work that way. Just like like year I’d have gold chaser from high DBoards and really low OBoard and can’t grab any OBoards.
@@swolexaustin you’re welcome! Idk others might disagree but personally I don’t think it’s worth it lol. Especially not considering how much more it cost to get it
I don’t usually drop recommendations but can we find out how effective physical finisher is? I’m sure the opponents interior d or strength (combined with badges) will mess it up a bit but on average I’d love to find out
@@jacobwilkie241 appreciate it! By chance do you combo that with strong handles and lightning launch? I’m thinking hof physical finisher, legend strong handles, and whatever lightning launch I can grab
With HOF physical finisher, you’re already looking at legend strong handles and from what I’ve tested of strong handles and what I’ve seen online, it’s very strong, especially against PG’s that don’t upgrade their strength. As for lightning launch, gold is probably your best bet since likely you won’t be getting Legend unless you give up either shooting or defence or both. And speaking as a guy who plays with a 5’9 with 96 in shooting and defence, I’d only give up a couple points on each or else I’d never be able to get stops or shoot 50% from 3 like I do now.
@@nozers there's a lot of takeaway you can get from data I showed. These are all raw info and it's up to you guys how you want to apply it on your builds.
@@nba2ktutesso do you think using the max+1 on 91 speed w ball to get legend is a better strategy or is the plus 3 speed w ball worth sacrificing attributes for?
Il would be great to test float game not just with driving layup but also close shot as it is cheaper, like is it worth to put 92 close shot for HOF float game if we have low driving layup
Should’ve did max plus 1 legendary lightning launch with 91 speed and just normal hof badge with 94 speed with ball to compare the difference because the comparison not really telling much for the people who can plus one the badge for legend that’s why your getting so many questions
Idk if this helps but i have 91 swb and used my plus 1 to get lightning launch on legend and even with 91 swb i noticed a big difference going from hof to legend
Bro the difference could be from the speed w ball stat and has nothing to do w the badge. U should use same speed w ball but different badge lvl comparison
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How big is the boost that dimer gives to team mates greenwindow
Brick wall please!
Dimer pls
Tutes, can you test the blow by animations based on the badge?
Test Normal Risk vs High Risk on a 75 3pt. I have a feeling it’s almost unmakable on normal risk with a low rating, but people with higher rating can get away with it
The best hard worker content creator
Yup the rest just repeat whats said to them and hype it up way more than needed.
him and kevin cruz the goats
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@@dep8730goated! When allcitylive tried to shit on tutes lost the little respect I had for the washed 2k player
FOR SURE 💯
Tutes the second chart on 1:38 you did was analytical genius 😂😂 just had to point that out
wow thanks for the appreciation man! I always try to get some sense on why certain types of results happen. To be honest, i can just keep it myself but I find it better if I can share it so you guys can have better understanding on how the game works. Again, thanks for the appreciation!
@@nba2ktutes and we appreciate your accuracy and being unbiased that’s really rare in this community!
This is exactly what ppl need for the max plus one where they keep the swb rating. Makes a 6’8 really viable if they drop a 75 swb sig
Keep up the hard work everyone appreciates it
Thanks for the appreciation!
Yea, we do
You should test the difference between mid range and 3pt ratings
Like if you had a 93 middy and 81 3 pt how much do the badges effect the shooting % vs 93 3pt and 81 middy how much the rating actually impacts the %
Just wanna know if there’s. huge difference cause i swear middy the way to go
I think what most people are missing is that lightning launch and on ball pest directly go against each other. However is the two are the same badge tier on ball pest will always win(in the sense of not allowing a blow by) if lightning launch is one tier higher you will get consistent blow by animations
Can you do Posterizers with and without strength to see how often youll fail meter dunks with high driving dunk and high strength vs low strength
Omg yes broo I need this
legend lightning launch is broken for rim running
What about purple
@@twonobiwonmusic9982 very good still because you can use max +1 to make it legend, or u could just stay with hof, great value still
Thank you for doing the second chart. I don't understand why other badge testers don't do this. You have no idea if it's the badge or the attributes improving the tested skill when there are two variables at play. Super valuable.
so what did it explain, is the atrribute or the badge better????? im hella confused. dk whether to go 94 swb or 91 with max+1
@@nozers Depends what level, but HOF and Legend badges seem to be driving more dramatic improvements than the attribute, itself.
Hey Tutes, I like the idea of showing the difference of the badges at the same attribute rating. It's applicable when considering where to use your max+1, and it does show that it's worth it to go from gold to hof using it for the 6'3s with 91 swb.
This is a great test- at threshold levels and consistent attribute. Amazing
so just to be clear. If i have a 86 speed with ball and max +1 my lightning launch from gold to hall of fame i won’t see that big of a difference but if i use my cap breakers to get from 86 to 91 speed with ball i’ll see a difference?
So me having a 75 swb which gets it on silver, I probably shouldn’t waste my max +1 to make it gold since there isn’t that big of a jump. Probably better to move set shot to HOF
Agreed
Facts im finna do that on my two way soon as I get on W Tutes man 😂💯
What about having 85 or 86 swb on gold and use the max +1 to hof is it worth it?
U didn’t waste it just change it
@@alexhajehi did the same and plan to use my +1 on something else now. Swb stat seems important and has helped me a lot but the badge doesnt seem to boost much
I love all the badge tests you do. I’m guessing you test all the badges on the same attribute overall.
Suggestion I have is to maybe test badge levels paired up with minimum attribute requirement at that badge? I’m sure a silver badge with 99 overall gives different results to silver badge with the 84 requirement
Try to watch video again. What you are asking for is literally on the video
im glad the legend badges are actually worth it this year cause i was concerned about that at first
Tutes and 2kLabs are the goats of the 2k community 💯
It would be nice if you could do like a good threshold for every attribute or at least the important ones later on in the year I know you are occupied testing badges and it takes time
No other RUclipsr as done it we need it ❤
Tutes your the goat keep up the hard work we really appreciate it!!!
Thanks Tutes!
Thanks for the appreciation!
Am i reading that right? from No badge to legend is just a .4 millisecond difference? 😂
.6 second
LISTEN LOCKS!
The on ball menace badge usually stops this badge about 4/5 times if its at the same tier
So bronze on ball menace stops bronze lightning launch
My suggestion is to put it on gold since most ball handlers have lightning launcher on gold
But for my ball handlers i suggest yall put lightning launcher on hof since most locks is at 92 perimeter defense
I know this is common sense to some of yall but I just wanted to help yall decide where to put this badge
I still be cooking 92 perimeter locks with silver lightning launch my player gets 86 swb though
@@FxAlmightyZay yessire that's when skills come into play
@@FxAlmightyZayso how is it possible that you only get silver? That’s impossible 😂. Your build must be glitched because 75 - silver and 86 - gold.
@@simba6772 I meant to say it maxes out to an 86 which is gold but when I only had a 75 swb silver lightning launch i was still cooking up.
Thanks for all your tests!! My question tho - what gives the boost really here? Is it the 3 attribute points from lets say 91swb to 94swb to give the boost - or is it the badge that fires up the boost?
In other words - if you got lets say 91 swb HOF badge - and you do not upgrade attribute points but upgrade your badge to LEGEND - will you still have that boost? That goes for various badges and attribute points actually - have you ever tested that? Since the game mechanic this year allows it
SWB and Lightning Launch badge both boost it. They have their own boost. I suggest to watch the video again, I think you missed the second chart
@@nba2ktutesthanks! I watched it again now and understand it better :)
I feel like all badge testing should be done with an isolated attribute, test the badge then test the attribute rating seperately so they each show indivudal effects even if its not "realistic"
Exactly, that’s why I did that to this test
The hero we needed
Please can you test challenger badge ? Especially on small builds
Great vids as always
how are your test vids and 2klabs test vids so different when testing the same things. they released the same video few weeks ago not showing that jump from HOF lightning to legend lightning or the small jump from gold to hof. its hard to make a build around this kind of stuff when yalls test show diff results. this isnt the first one where yall had different results too i believe
I would have like to see animation speed comparison of all badge levels
Putting out some heat🔥🔥🔥
Keep it up Tutes🫡
Doesnt it activate when you use right stick launches? Would be really helpful to test off those specific animations. Keep up the amazing work!
does it also help with blow by animations? or only movement
Cap break 91 to 94 speed with ball is a no brainer for me now, been using the +1 but might as well make it permanent at this point
Doesnt this show that the badge is what matters not the speed with ball. Looks like a waste just use max plus 1
Does it help blow by too?
Hey tutes I watched your interior video and I’ve understood that interior is very important this year. Would you say 82 interior is enough for a 6’7 center with 7’3 wing span?
Can you please do badge tests, like float game, layup mixmaster, shifty shooter (with step back moves... Etc.), glove and mini markman.
I know it will be hard to test, but I would love to see how strong handles work
If you have 91 swb is it worth it to use cap breakers to go to 94 or just use max +1 at 91
Hey Tutes. Just wondering if you can test Paint Prodigy badge and close shot. Might be tricky but you always come through!
Physical finishing next please!! ❤
got one already
@@nba2ktutes can u link me the vid i don’t see it
@@ExclusiveBuilds2k ohh sorry i thought you were referring to strong handles. I haven't done that yet
@@nba2ktutes all good take ya time I’ll be here waiting for the vid
W content . Thsnk you as always!
Feel like 91 is good, don’t fully understand the few 86 swb under 6’5 guards I’ve seen
mistake I made on my first build and immediately regretted the second I played on a build with 91 swb. the difference is night and day, felt like I couldn’t get open at all with 86.
Made a 6’4 big body iso lock, at the SF I feel gold is plenty cause you’re usually gonna be up against slower matchups, as a guard I can definitely see going higher to HoF tho
OH YES IM FEELING LIKE SONIC IN DA REC, AINT NOBODY STOPPIN THE A-TRAIN WORDD IS BONDDDDDDDDD
What’s wrong with you?
@@KingJohn-b7o everything mate.
@@KingJohn-b7o I even liked your comment because damn damnit, I'm that crazy gng?
Been going crazy with legend lighting launch and legend posterizer
Whats your 3pt rating?
@@andrewnormand7787whats his defense?
SO WHATS BETTER? THE ATTRIBUTE OR THE BADGE. PLEASE SOMEONE ANSWER
Tutes been in dat lab omg
Can you test if strength gives you a better chance to dunk on a defender?
Tutes, can you test the blow by animations based on the badge?
Great test!!!
Question 2k tutes.. Does having 8 90 ratings in your attributes consider a meta build?
Do contested driving layups does block matter or interior defense
Can you see if mini marksman is really worth going below 6’4
Have you thought about testing Paint Patroller and High-Flying Denier at all?
Do you think steal rating and interceptor badge matters if lane stealing is already super easy?
I have 60 steal with bronze interceptor and whilst I’m still getting bump steals and interceptions regularly I would suggest going at least to silver interceptor (which is 73 steal I think)
Can you also test the clamp breaker aspect of this badge?
In y’all’s opinion, is it worth it to use cap breaker to get to gold launcher? I have a slow 6’7 pg (Luka) with 70 speed with ball but 90 ball handle
Yes
So basically go for legend instead of HOF. If you can't, just settle for gold because the jump to HoF is small.
@@MP-rq1kw So max plus 1 hof or actually make it 94 speed with ball in builder?
So what would be the sweet spot
Set Shot Specialist please. I have to choose between that or Lightning
Should i use my +1 on gold posterizer or gold lightning launch on my 6’8? 🤔
I did max +1 on my SG 6’8 and it’s night and day bro compared to silver.
@@chrisjones720 posterizer or lightning launch?
@@FlaisYT lightning launch
Why is there a difference between you and 2klab? They have a different result combining SWB and lightning launch.
I can't really say who's more correct. I showed you guys the thought process behind my tests so it's up to the viewers now to decide which one they think they can rely more. At the end of the day, it's really hard for both our results to be 100% the same. Testings on this level is basically just smart estimations and can fluctuate depending on lots of moving variables.
@@nba2ktutesi thought you work at/with 2klab i swear someone over there has a voice like yours
@@andrewnormand7787nah tutes is a one man laboratory
@@andrewnormand7787that’s SamPham 😂
Can you drop link didn’t even know that had a vid
Can you do a video showing how/if attaining a higher badge on OBoard/DBoard will affect the other? Like if you have 96 OBoard which gives HOF Rebound Chaser, will that mean you grab Defensive Boards at HOF level as well? People tend to think that. It is only 1 chaser badge but I feel like it doesn’t work that way. Just like like year I’d have gold chaser from high DBoards and really low OBoard and can’t grab any OBoards.
Can we get a handles for days, cause that badge does more than i thought
what tier should we aim for?
I think 91 swb for small guards with Westbrook or garland dribble style
& 86 swb for over 6’5 w/Zach lavine dribble style
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Deleted 2k yet still watch these lol
What difference is there between me having 76 swb and using my plus one vs actually having the 86 ball handle and just having gold lightning launch?
you’re going to move much better with 86, the badge doesn’t completely make up for that 11 point attribute difference.
Do brick wall tired of locks beating up my pg 😢
lol I have it on legend and honestly I didn’t notice that much of a difference from gold
@@NurseCloud9 you saved me cap breakers, thank you
@@swolexaustin you’re welcome! Idk others might disagree but personally I don’t think it’s worth it lol. Especially not considering how much more it cost to get it
Soooo fire once I get 99 3 ball I’ll get my +1 for legend lightning launch
2kTUTES!!!!!! 😤
Can we get a standing dunk measure, like do you really need the contect dunks if you have more than 80
Man i was hoping no one noticed how overpowered this badge is.
So… it’s not the badge then it’s just the speed with ball attribute?
POSTERIZER NEXT PLEASE
I don’t usually drop recommendations but can we find out how effective physical finisher is? I’m sure the opponents interior d or strength (combined with badges) will mess it up a bit but on average I’d love to find out
I’ve been testing it with gold to HOF and Gold is really good but I’ve also seen HOF being better. Anything less looks much worse
@@jacobwilkie241 appreciate it! By chance do you combo that with strong handles and lightning launch? I’m thinking hof physical finisher, legend strong handles, and whatever lightning launch I can grab
With HOF physical finisher, you’re already looking at legend strong handles and from what I’ve tested of strong handles and what I’ve seen online, it’s very strong, especially against PG’s that don’t upgrade their strength. As for lightning launch, gold is probably your best bet since likely you won’t be getting Legend unless you give up either shooting or defence or both. And speaking as a guy who plays with a 5’9 with 96 in shooting and defence, I’d only give up a couple points on each or else I’d never be able to get stops or shoot 50% from 3 like I do now.
does vertical affect rebound
Yes
Please do ankle breaker and challenger
Im so confused, so legend lighting launch is amazing and worth sacrifcing for?
yes, if you think your playstyle will utilize it.
@@nba2ktutes damn okay, thanks tutes. There's so much conflicting data on this
@@nozers there's a lot of takeaway you can get from data I showed. These are all raw info and it's up to you guys how you want to apply it on your builds.
@@nba2ktutesso do you think using the max+1 on 91 speed w ball to get legend is a better strategy or is the plus 3 speed w ball worth sacrificing attributes for?
Il would be great to test float game not just with driving layup but also close shot as it is cheaper, like is it worth to put 92 close shot for HOF float game if we have low driving layup
Can we get a REAL Dimer text?
Can we get a shifty shooter test
SO GOLD AND +1MAX badge it for HOF isn't bad
You need all these videos before you buy the game.
If you havent bought it DO NOT wait till like black friday the earliest.
Can you still tap R2/RT to do an off ball cut like last years spot finder badge is anything similar to that in this 2k?
yes.
@@tMirski how ?
@@tonytree13 same way, they didn’t change it
@@tMirski thanks
Mid range and 3pt
Can you do aerial wizard
Should’ve did max plus 1 legendary lightning launch with 91 speed and just normal hof badge with 94 speed with ball to compare the difference because the comparison not really telling much for the people who can plus one the badge for legend that’s why your getting so many questions
Idk if this helps but i have 91 swb and used my plus 1 to get lightning launch on legend and even with 91 swb i noticed a big difference going from hof to legend
On ball menace pls
I have lighting launch hof and it wont let me put it to legend in the max plus one badge help!
It’s because you don’t meet the attribute requirements for the legend badge. You still have to meet the attribute requirements when using plus one.
@@AjeButta77
Wait I didn’t know this lol I thought you could plus 1 any badge
Bro the difference could be from the speed w ball stat and has nothing to do w the badge. U should use same speed w ball but different badge lvl comparison
Try to watch the video again.
The average iq of the 2k player is so low smh
We need brick wall
Giantsfan696 …test out lightning launch vs on ball menace …HOF & legend are NASTY
Please test brick wall
I recently saw a content creator make a badge tier list and had this dam near to the bottom 😂 I immediately stopped watching the video
Can we please get legend poster now
The graph is upside down
Are you filipino? Just wondering 🇵🇭 here
yes
Nice one
So basically gold or legend
physical finisher
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