I have the exact same problem and did some digging on it. Appears there is a fix which requires reprogramming the module using IDS version 98.01 or higher. There is a special service message associated with it as well SSM 45456. I'm not sure I'll bring mine in for this reprogram, more than likely will just use the work around, but figured I would post this in case anybody wants to get it fixed.
Thanks for the info on SSM 45456!!!! I've been chasing this problem for the last year on my wife's car. I will be contacting the dealer to get this reprogrammed.
Im looking at one with this exact problem. I hadn't checked the blend door pids, believe it or not that's not on fords pin point test. But I saw the ssm and checked for updates, none available. But am I to understand the point of concern is EVAP sensor? Ford says replace HVAC module. I haven't yet trying to make sure which part actually needs to be replaced. Great video thanks so much very informative
Thank you for sharing that. Should I contact my Ford Dealer where I purchased the car to have it reprogrammed? Where can I find this information? I have a 2011 Ford Fusion like everyone else watching this video. That is crazy! Mine just started very slowly a year ago and now I really notice the difference.
We just bought a used 2 owner 2011 Fusion and love it. Great car. Handles beautifully. Roomy enough for my tall kids. Great gas mileage. AC went out about 2 weeks ago on a trip to visit my family. My BIL hooked up gauges and freon was on the low end of acceptable. He filled it up and it worked better, much colder, but still was intermittent. My husband got home and said it wasnt working again. I'm getting ready to take another trip to my mom's. He found your video and went out and went out to try your "2 clicks" fix. He came in completely amazed. We are both very grateful as are the kids 😁
Two-clicks worked for me, 2010 Fusion SE. Just stopped working a few days ago, glad I tuned in to this. Thanks also for the showing the HVAC scanning info.
Thank you for this video. I have been chasing this for years on my wife’s car and even paid a mechanic several hundreds of dollars to “fix” the problem. Worked for a year or so and then same problem. The fog light fix did not work for my car. Air went hot again today and I tried the “two clicks from cold” you suggested and perfectly cold air! Can’t thank you enough.
Omg here I am sitting in my car with the same issue & the couple clicks away turned it into COLD! Lol I also heard the trick about turning on lights... THANK YOU!
I have a 2012 Fusion been having this problem for 2 years had the Dealer replace the control module twice and it started doing it again was pretty mad by now tryed your 2 click fix and it works for now THANK YOU it was starting to drive me crazy 😊
Our 2012 Fusion just presented with no A/C this week Feb2024 Texas, tested blend door and was working fine; Found a Hak on RUclips to move the headlight selector knob to manual and pull the selector out to turn on the fog lights (didn’t know we had fog lights). This Hak worked for us. Kinda random but it stop baby from complaining and got the fusion blowing cold again.
I have a 2011 Ford Fusion mine started doing the same thing I tried your trick to click back and it works cold thank you For your help until we figure out a real fix
Glad i found this. Was thinking it was a vacuum issue on the blend door. Tried the 2 clicks first and its working! Thank you so much😁 rather do this then spend time and money!
So I turned the Knob up 2 notches just like you said and my air worked. It came on and stayed on. 🥳🥳🥳 I knew I didn't need a compressor or freon. I have been hesitant for a year about taking it to the shop bc I didn't want anyone to take advantage of my money. I cannot thank you enough.
@@ryanstalcup7093 I had some work done on mine the day before so fortunately mine was just the previous mechanic accidentally (I don’t actually know if it was an accident or not but eh) disconnected the ac from its power supply
Thanks for doing all the work on this. I was not interested in dumping a load of money into an 11 year old car with 200k miles on it. This looks to be working for me!
Thank you so much. I've been struggling with this for a while now and it actually works. You don't know how much I appreciate you for your video. Including my family. God bless you
I will definitely try this. I spent today driving around temperature was 86° with no A/C. It's been working intermittently for a few weeks now. I charged it with a little refrigerant today but it was only a little low so it didn't help at all. I'll definitely try this work around. Thank you in advance.
Leaving cool knob to two clocks away from max is the only fix I’ve seen. Also if it goes to hot, you can temp fix by putting control knob on all the way max heat and leaving it for about 5 seconds then you go one by one click until to get to two away from max cool 2011 fusion owner here
Now my new problem is when car is sitting still with ac on , car coolant temp gets to 115c 239f then cooling fan kicks on to max and coolant temp drop to 92c 197f and stays stable I notice this one I saw my temp gauge rising near max
This is going to sound crazy. But my 2012 Ford Fusion will blow cold the blow hot. someone told me to start car, manually turn on headlights and it blows cold. Been doing this for 4 years no problems.
yeah i've seen this somewhere else too. especially if your fog lights are on. currently sitting in my 2011 and ac kept turning off before and after turning my lights on, it stays cold.
Cabin fans in my 2012 would stop working randomly. The fix for my issue was to unplug the main unit under the passenger glovebox and plug it back in fixed it everytime until the fuse blew. Gonna try to get that fixed because no AC mid summer is not the move.
Let me share my sufferring. It started to behave in 2022 (2011 model) and turning car off and on would reset it and the problem would not appear for months. This year, the compressor started to engage and disengage constantly. The logical conclusion was that it's the EVAP sensor. I made the reading on the harness, and it was close to 5V (indicating cold). So I bypassed it with a resistor. Now the compressor was engaged. Success! For about a week. Once that was fixed, it started doing this. It would start cooling the car, and after about a minute or two it would turn on warm, while the compressor was still engaged.
Supper glad I found your video I've been pulling my hair out not being able to find what's wrong with it. Went outside turned it two notches up and stays cold now thanks
I had the exact thing happen to me 2 days ago! Change the blen door actuator takes 20 mins & 2 bolts. Undo the brake pedal switch 2 bolts with a extension & plug in the new one
Did you try measuring AC ripple voltage on the battery? High ripple AC from a poorly functioning rectifier in the alternator can play havok with all kinds of electronic modules. I am having the same problem with my wife's 2012 Fusion, and the problem began very shortly after a battery replacement, due to a bad battery. I have about 120mV of AC on my car, which seems high to me. I would like to see AC ripple like 20-30mV at most. Possibly the bad battery damaged the rectifier in the alternator and one or more diodes is a little "leaky" now. I am going to to try unplugging my alternator and see if the HVAC problem goes away. You might try the same thing on yours.
Doesn't the "new" module need to be programmed to the car? I just replaced mine with a remanufactured one and it still wasnt working, took it to a mechanic and they said it needs to be programmed by the dealer. Trying to get an appointment now. I'll let you know if it works...
Nope. Found a radiator shop that can program (dealer was crazy expensive). Programed the rebuilt module and no cold air. They say temp sensor is reading - 40 F. In other words not working. On to replacing that 😣 The fog light trick worked for 2 years for me. Maybe now I actually have a faulty condenser temp sensor on top of the strange computer glitch? 🤷🏻
I have had this exact problem for over a year. I figured out on my own that if I turned it a few notches from the coldest setting that my ac would work after a lot of trial and error. Wish I had found your video back then. Anywho, my ac is not kicking on after a year of using this method. Did you find out any other information? Thanks for your videos.
Have you found the cause of that yet? Mine is doing the same. Using forscan, everything seemed to be fine as long as I didn't go to full cold. Now my A/C clutch won't engage (PCM is not sending signal but all voltages and pressures are showing as they should.)
Doesn't work for my 2011 SEL 3.0 have been fighting this for 5 years. I was so excited about this because I've been looking for something and found nothing!
I replaced the ac compressor, ac line, re vac , alternator, radiator fan 2 times, Water pump and belt 3 times, both filters, and my car is heating up. Every month it is something with this car. Now I have to replace the blower motor for the 4th time it's messing up. Also replaced the resistor. Mine is a 2011 Ford Fusion SE V6 3.0L. This car is full of issues. It's heating up been sitting with the ac on now for 5 mins and it's heating up. I have no idea. When I turn the ac off it goes back to normal.
i have a 2012 ford fusion and the a/c just stopped working, it would sometimes turn off and turn back on randomly, now it just doesnt work at all, does anyone know what it could be? no air is coming out
@ncfrias take your temperature control knob and move it two clicks off the coldest setting. It keeps it within the normal parameters and the module won't default to blowing hot air.
Just wanted to add that this is a known problem with 2011-2015 Ford Fusions. I work on cars for a living,and I’ve ran into this a handful of times. New module is the fix. Easy Peezy.
I noticed Dorman makes a new one. If they are making one, it must be a really common issue. You ever had one of the new ones come back into the shop afterwards?
I have the exact same problem and did some digging on it. Appears there is a fix which requires reprogramming the module using IDS version 98.01 or higher. There is a special service message associated with it as well SSM 45456. I'm not sure I'll bring mine in for this reprogram, more than likely will just use the work around, but figured I would post this in case anybody wants to get it fixed.
Thanks for the info on SSM 45456!!!! I've been chasing this problem for the last year on my wife's car. I will be contacting the dealer to get this reprogrammed.
Im looking at one with this exact problem. I hadn't checked the blend door pids, believe it or not that's not on fords pin point test. But I saw the ssm and checked for updates, none available. But am I to understand the point of concern is EVAP sensor? Ford says replace HVAC module. I haven't yet trying to make sure which part actually needs to be replaced. Great video thanks so much very informative
Thank you for sharing that. Should I contact my Ford Dealer where I purchased the car to have it reprogrammed? Where can I find this information? I have a 2011 Ford Fusion like everyone else watching this video. That is crazy! Mine just started very slowly a year ago and now I really notice the difference.
Lol I have zero idea what any of that means 😂😂😂 how can that help somebody that isn’t a mechanic
@@antonioallen1763they’ll lie and say it’s a part like the blower $$))
I found a guy on RUclips that showed me the trick with the lights and it has worked for me for a couple of years now. Fords are crazy
More information?? Please
Well, got in my car and no air. Worked the day before. Came in and watched your video. Went out and turned two clicks and wala, it worked. THANKS lol
We just bought a used 2 owner 2011 Fusion and love it. Great car. Handles beautifully. Roomy enough for my tall kids. Great gas mileage. AC went out about 2 weeks ago on a trip to visit my family. My BIL hooked up gauges and freon was on the low end of acceptable. He filled it up and it worked better, much colder, but still was intermittent. My husband got home and said it wasnt working again. I'm getting ready to take another trip to my mom's. He found your video and went out and went out to try your "2 clicks" fix. He came in completely amazed. We are both very grateful as are the kids 😁
Two-clicks worked for me, 2010 Fusion SE. Just stopped working a few days ago, glad I tuned in to this. Thanks also for the showing the HVAC scanning info.
Thank you for this video. I have been chasing this for years on my wife’s car and even paid a mechanic several hundreds of dollars to “fix” the problem. Worked for a year or so and then same problem. The fog light fix did not work for my car. Air went hot again today and I tried the “two clicks from cold” you suggested and perfectly cold air! Can’t thank you enough.
Omg here I am sitting in my car with the same issue & the couple clicks away turned it into COLD! Lol I also heard the trick about turning on lights... THANK YOU!
Unplug the actuators for future malfunction prevention.... While the ac working....
I cannot believe you solved the problem!!! I finally have A/C again haha
I have a 2012 Fusion been having this problem for 2 years had the Dealer replace the control module twice and it started doing it again was pretty mad by now tryed your 2 click fix and it works for now THANK YOU it was starting to drive me crazy 😊
Our 2012 Fusion just presented with no A/C this week Feb2024 Texas, tested blend door and was working fine; Found a Hak on RUclips to move the headlight selector knob to manual and pull the selector out to turn on the fog lights (didn’t know we had fog lights). This Hak worked for us. Kinda random but it stop baby from complaining and got the fusion blowing cold again.
Unplug the actuators both of them bc eventual they will malfunction and go to heat....and throw air from different vents
Can u tag the videoo
This post is still helping, just tried the 2 clicks over and worked, AC now cools down the interior.
Thank you
I have a 2011 Ford Fusion mine started doing the same thing I tried your trick to click back and it works cold thank you For your help until we figure out a real fix
Glad i found this. Was thinking it was a vacuum issue on the blend door. Tried the 2 clicks first and its working! Thank you so much😁 rather do this then spend time and money!
So I turned the Knob up 2 notches just like you said and my air worked. It came on and stayed on. 🥳🥳🥳 I knew I didn't need a compressor or freon. I have been hesitant for a year about taking it to the shop bc I didn't want anyone to take advantage of my money. I cannot thank you enough.
I'm glad it worked for you. It's a shame that it happens, but fortunately this workaround has been effective...and is also free.
Tried this on my Aunt's 2012 Fusion and it worked like a charm.
Thak you for the great video!!!!
About to try it on my 2012 Fusion
@@CarolinaKvngpin did it work? Mine didn't.
@@ryanstalcup7093 I had some work done on mine the day before so fortunately mine was just the previous mechanic accidentally (I don’t actually know if it was an accident or not but eh) disconnected the ac from its power supply
Thanks for doing all the work on this. I was not interested in dumping a load of money into an 11 year old car with 200k miles on it. This looks to be working for me!
Thank you so much. I've been struggling with this for a while now and it actually works. You don't know how much I appreciate you for your video. Including my family. God bless you
I will definitely try this. I spent today driving around temperature was 86° with no A/C. It's been working intermittently for a few weeks now. I charged it with a little refrigerant today but it was only a little low so it didn't help at all. I'll definitely try this work around. Thank you in advance.
Leaving cool knob to two clocks away from max is the only fix I’ve seen. Also if it goes to hot, you can temp fix by putting control knob on all the way max heat and leaving it for about 5 seconds then you go one by one click until to get to two away from max cool
2011 fusion owner here
Now my new problem is when car is sitting still with ac on , car coolant temp gets to 115c 239f then cooling fan kicks on to max and coolant temp drop to 92c 197f and stays stable
I notice this one I saw my temp gauge rising near max
Maybe you have a sticking thermostat? We had a similar issue on an explorer with random high coolant temps.
THANK YOU. Worked on my 2012 SE. ❤❤❤❤
I appreciate this info! Thank you so much!!!!! I’ve had AC issues for 4 years and this has saved me a lot of money.
The 2 clicks worked! Don't know why, but thanks!
Very helpful! Awesome man!! Thanks so much!! Thought I was going to have to pack shorts & tee shirts to drive home in... 😁
Just tried it on my sister in laws car. Works just like you said it would (might ) lol. Thanks. Will see if stays working
This is going to sound crazy. But my 2012 Ford Fusion will blow cold the blow hot. someone told me to start car, manually turn on headlights and it blows cold. Been doing this for 4 years no problems.
yeah i've seen this somewhere else too. especially if your fog lights are on. currently sitting in my 2011 and ac kept turning off before and after turning my lights on, it stays cold.
Cabin fans in my 2012 would stop working randomly. The fix for my issue was to unplug the main unit under the passenger glovebox and plug it back in fixed it everytime until the fuse blew. Gonna try to get that fixed because no AC mid summer is not the move.
Let me share my sufferring. It started to behave in 2022 (2011 model) and turning car off and on would reset it and the problem would not appear for months. This year, the compressor started to engage and disengage constantly. The logical conclusion was that it's the EVAP sensor. I made the reading on the harness, and it was close to 5V (indicating cold). So I bypassed it with a resistor. Now the compressor was engaged. Success! For about a week. Once that was fixed, it started doing this. It would start cooling the car, and after about a minute or two it would turn on warm, while the compressor was still engaged.
Amazing 🙌🙌🙌. Bizzare but works!! THANK YOU!
Supper glad I found your video I've been pulling my hair out not being able to find what's wrong with it. Went outside turned it two notches up and stays cold now thanks
I had the exact thing happen to me 2 days ago! Change the blen door actuator takes 20 mins & 2 bolts.
Undo the brake pedal switch 2 bolts with a extension & plug in the new one
So far so good! Thanks......
I’ve had the same problem in my 2011. This seems to work mine has done this for over a year now
Super fantastic thank you, work like a charm!
Thanks, the two clicks worked on mine!
Omg it’s working doing the couple clicks away
You solved my problem brother. Appreciate it so much
Have you ever changed out the cabin air filter behind the glove box
Blend door actuator , it’s under the drivers side dash. Mine is doing the same thing. And that needs replaced
Thank You for the video! Works for my Ford Fusion 2012!
So one on 66 and the other on 60? Or spin both two clicks??
Why didn't I find this last weekend! It was crazy hot
About to try, I will let you know if it works for me too. Thanks!
Did you try measuring AC ripple voltage on the battery? High ripple AC from a poorly functioning rectifier in the alternator can play havok with all kinds of electronic modules. I am having the same problem with my wife's 2012 Fusion, and the problem began very shortly after a battery replacement, due to a bad battery. I have about 120mV of AC on my car, which seems high to me. I would like to see AC ripple like 20-30mV at most. Possibly the bad battery damaged the rectifier in the alternator and one or more diodes is a little "leaky" now. I am going to to try unplugging my alternator and see if the HVAC problem goes away. You might try the same thing on yours.
I’m having issues with mine as well. Does anyone know if this trick works with the upgraded temp control with the push button instead of the dial?
Doesn't the "new" module need to be programmed to the car? I just replaced mine with a remanufactured one and it still wasnt working, took it to a mechanic and they said it needs to be programmed by the dealer.
Trying to get an appointment now. I'll let you know if it works...
Nope. Found a radiator shop that can program (dealer was crazy expensive). Programed the rebuilt module and no cold air. They say temp sensor is reading - 40 F. In other words not working. On to replacing that 😣
The fog light trick worked for 2 years for me. Maybe now I actually have a faulty condenser temp sensor on top of the strange computer glitch? 🤷🏻
The 2 clicks worked for me, such a weird issue
What scan tool are you using? I have a cheap OBDII scanner that connects to a phone app, but it doesn't show that level of detail.
Launch X431
I have had this exact problem for over a year. I figured out on my own that if I turned it a few notches from the coldest setting that my ac would work after a lot of trial and error. Wish I had found your video back then. Anywho, my ac is not kicking on after a year of using this method. Did you find out any other information? Thanks for your videos.
Have you found the cause of that yet? Mine is doing the same. Using forscan, everything seemed to be fine as long as I didn't go to full cold. Now my A/C clutch won't engage (PCM is not sending signal but all voltages and pressures are showing as they should.)
I have not found the actual cause, just as long as we don’t put it to the coldest setting it has continued to work properly.
Bummer, ive tried the fog light, 2-clicks & resistor trick..non have worked on our 2011 w/ dual climate control
Holly shit you just save me brother!!
Doesn't work for my 2011 SEL 3.0 have been fighting this for 5 years. I was so excited about this because I've been looking for something and found nothing!
evap temperature sensor.
I replaced the ac compressor, ac line, re vac , alternator, radiator fan 2 times, Water pump and belt 3 times, both filters, and my car is heating up. Every month it is something with this car. Now I have to replace the blower motor for the 4th time it's messing up. Also replaced the resistor. Mine is a 2011 Ford Fusion SE V6 3.0L. This car is full of issues. It's heating up been sitting with the ac on now for 5 mins and it's heating up. I have no idea. When I turn the ac off it goes back to normal.
I have the same car and have so many issues. Now I’m trynna figure out why my ac not working
Just want to a mechanic and he disconnected my heater. That’s the only way my a/c worked again. Apparently there is something wrong with the module.
i have a 2012 ford fusion and the a/c just stopped working, it would sometimes turn off and turn back on randomly, now it just doesnt work at all, does anyone know what it could be? no air is coming out
Apparently with car off, set it to hot and then turn the car on and change it to cold slowly.
IT WORKED. Car was on but i turned it to 80 and 81 passenger side and dropped it slowly to 73 about 15 seconds total. (ford fusion 2010)
Do you think it could be a bad blend door actuator?
Whats the couple of clicks? When in the video dies he say it
@ncfrias take your temperature control knob and move it two clicks off the coldest setting. It keeps it within the normal parameters and the module won't default to blowing hot air.
BIG THANKS 👍 × ? (what ever a auto shop would have cost me)
What scanner are you using? You like it? I am fixing to buy a high end scanner soon.
I am using the Launch X431. I've been really happy with it for the money. It came with 2 years of free updates, which is nice to have.
@@tightwadproductions961 Thank you my friend and good luck.
There's a launch scanner that's on Amazon for 170 bucks. Do you think that it would have the feature you need to adjust the AC?
I would say it likely does not at that price. You need one that has bi-directional controls.
My Fusion started behaving like this 2 days ago
Yes that worked I did the same thing changed out stuff 2 clean clicks worked ac needs to be flashed
2009 ac fix
It’s the compressor
Thanks! God damn thing loo
Your used HVAC module is junk,too. Put a new one in. You’ll have no more problems.
Just wanted to add that this is a known problem with 2011-2015 Ford Fusions. I work on cars for a living,and I’ve ran into this a handful of times. New module is the fix. Easy Peezy.
I noticed Dorman makes a new one. If they are making one, it must be a really common issue. You ever had one of the new ones come back into the shop afterwards?
@@MathiasJarlson Not so far. I did one just last week. It was a Dorman.
@@slayerrules70 thanks for the help. I’m going to buy one for my car now!
@@MathiasJarlson No problem.