They made a Windows PC game back in 2001 or 2002, I don't remember which. I used to play it at home while in university. I guess the current gen wouldn't know or remember that game
Konami's business model with all their rhythm games is centered around japan arcades. They don't really care or try with anything outside it. All their pc ports are jank and you're better off downloading illegal arcade hdd rips, their controllers suck and you're better off with gamo2, yuancon, or stepmaniax/ltek depending on the game. Ontop of all that konami is extremely aggressive with copyrighting every little feature in their games and sueing everyone who makes anything remotely similar to a rhythm game which ends up hurting the genre as a whole. Rip ITG.
Konami was already pretty high on my shit list with them killing off my favorite game francise Silent Hill. I kept an ok view of them due to how good bemani and their games tend to be. That view is slowly being tarnished.
Reminds me of what game critic Yahtzee Croshaw said: "It's sad that Konami turned evil; it's doubly sad that they're so fucking bad at it.". I have no idea what merit there is to fucking up the way Konami has for the past few years, besides a company suicide any% WR. Usually game companies get lazy and pump out inferior content that's AT LEAST up to a company standard, but Konami seems to have an active disdain for its consumers now.
Knowing Konami, if they're making a DDR mobile game of some kind, you're probably going to have to throw gatcha in order to get new songs or some bs like that.
3:05 Not to mention that bluetooth can introduce latency, which I'm pretty sure people playing on a game with a 17~ms window wouldnt be too happy about
@mega yeah fair lol but I see ppl do pretty decent stuff with bt but I guess idk. Taiko on switch controller is BT maybe low latency bt but yeah official controllers R kinda a joke
You didn't even talk about the game's pricing, which is 90% going to be like sdvx or iidx, which at this point just go to the arcade or play stepmania because you are paying monthly for leaderboards that are controlled by chris4life anyway (nothing wrong with Chris btw he's an absolute legend).
to be fair, if this does succeed (hopefully lol) then there could be a small boom of brand new pads being made from third parties so there’s at least a little light, however yeah keep it to konami for charging way more than they should for stuff that is not entirely good
Just ported arcade data was literally all the DDR community wanted for years and it's so blatantly simple and easy to do that it's annoying that it's taken this long. It also bugs me that they have a 200 dollar pad for sale but no guarantees of the future of the actual game.
someone needs to just get rid of all the old annoying people running konami that's making these rhythm games inaccessible. we shouldn't have to go through so much damn trouble to play these games.
The Alpha does work with the LTEK, so I'm not sure why someone would spend $200 on a trash bag with sensors in it when they're half way to buying the bar kit, or a third of the way if you don't care about the bar. But it felt good (and demoralizing after PFCing songs on SM) to feel those arcade timing windows again.
For us we can't understand but in Japan companies like Konami and Sega are tightly controlling the rhythm games market, so much that Konami are probably the only japanese company that produces dance games and there are stories that Konami paid Sega to not put pump it up in their arcades. Also L-tek don't really do shipping to Asia and owning a private arcade cab is a gray area there.
The bar kit on LTEK is 100% trash and I'd recommend making your own with parts from any large hardware store. Material is up to you but if somebody paid me to do it I'd use stainless steel so it don't rust or corrode and wrap it with tennis racket tape.
Konami is seriously the worst company. They do their best to not only make it difficult to play their own games they have already ruined but also ruin other company's games. And now this.
when i saw the pad in the thumbnail, i legit thought that it was a knock off softpad but no, thats the actual design. couldnt they have made them at least look like the ddr a arcade pads and not, whatever the hell the design they chose is?
Konami really knows how to make great games that are extremely inaccessible. I'm just getting back into DDR, and the last version I played was extreme. The amount of research I'm having to do is insane. I feel like a complete fucking noob trying to figure all of this shit out with e amusement and wondering how to hell to play specific songs because I'm not seeing them in the DDR A arcade. Seriously, what the actual fuck is this secret society bullshit? Why should I have to go on a Japanese website with little to no English to pay a subscription service just to edit the fucking opacity of the background and change the fucking character? I can do difficulty 15-16 songs, and yet I feel like I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing or looking at when I'm trying to figure out the interface of DDR A. And it seems impossible to find straight forward resources on how to do any of this shit. It's absolute fucking lunacy.
I share your pain as a IIDX player. My advice is, either run HDD rips or Stepmania (especially with ITG windows through Outfox or by using the Simply Love theme). I am biased because I love ITG but there's a legit community around making ITG maps, and I do tend to believe they are superior to many of the maps Konami shits out for DDR. If you're playing DDR 15/16s you will find a lot to love in ITG FA charts, around the difficulty 10 mark.
Been playing DDRA20 for the past year and just recently A20 plus arcade HDD dump on my pc at home. There is no chance I’m paying a monthly sub for this game let me buy it outright, I’ll gladly pay for unlimited access and additional $ for potential future upgrades. But the port needs to be flawless, so far spice tools + hdd rip has been working wonders for me on private hosted servers with their own leaderboards. Also it’s nice to see most of the high scores being 999xxx and not full pages of 1M’s from chris4life (not hating at all btw ur solid) clogging every song.
Hey man! I got an e-mail saying that Konami will launch a second edition of the _Grand Prix_ controller soon. This will also work on the _DDR Classic Mini_ cabinet, a remake of _3rdMix_ and older games. What do you think? I still believe that the soft pad costs too much for what it is.
Here's my thought's & prediciton, at least from this Alpha Release: - The dance pad they sell from Konami Style is too expensive & kinda worthless. The material is same just like PS2 mat version, or even cheap & bootleg pad being sold on some online shops. Only worth if you wanna have a unique design for the mat & have bluetooth capability for the pad. Which is not recommended for using bluetooth if you want a full experience, because usually bluetooth control is sluggish in rhythm game. - Big possibility, when the final release for PC ver or it's called "Konaste" version for now, it will be a paid service in order to play it. Just like IIDX Infinitas, SDVX for Konaste, etc. But I can't exactly sure how's the price per month will be, until the official statement release by Konami. (Hopefully won't be that expensive if Konami wants to apply subscription system, because I know everyone might gonna say exactly the same sentence like this video title does) - This might also a bad news to play, you need Japan Region Konami ID previously to play Konaste ver. because subscription reason. But fortunately, as of today, outside Japan's Credit Card is now accepted except if it's Amex. Just use Visa or Mastercard or JCB for this case and it should be solved for good. - If we see on other bemani games exist in Konaste for now, at least SDVX are linked with the arcade ver so if you play it on arcade with same e-amusement and have score recorded for the songs you've played, it will be synced on Konaste too & vice versa. This might be happen on DDR Konaste too when final release but IT'S STILL NOT CONFIRMED for this case until we see the final release & being explained by Konami itself at a later & unknown date. (Personally I hope this is implemented for real because seamless experience like this might helping me at least to carry my own data into 1 & unified and able to play it anywhere.) That's for now.
yeah konami does some wack things, even old soft pads are pretty bad, hard pads are just a lot better and definitely worth the extra money if you can get it
LTEK is similar to the oldschool Cobalt Flux and about the same price. Don't buy their bar kit though it's pretty trash and it's better to just make your own
@@lpcrossover5424 There isn't unless you're talking about serial-only computers from the 90s. USB-C is another USB standard and an inexpensive adapter will let you plug in USB-A devices. Also I promise you DDR/ITG fans own computers with USB A ports.
I'd venture a guess that the reason there are so few songs might be due to terms in some of the musical licenses. But of course laziness is a better assumption.
Yes, but the ui is terrible, No soft or fading transition between screens and it irritates me as a guy who plays ddr with those ui advantages. And lastly, PIU's pads have latency issues even tho its a hard-wired connection. I will wait until andamiro fixes these issues.
It supports bluetooth compatibility but it offers USB plug-in. The website also states only 1000 of these units are expected to be made. It's way too soon to be certain because Konami is Konami, but it's important to note the USB connection thing. Personally, I think the only people this would interest are the only people they expect to target with this: Diehard collectors of DDR/Bemani merch. Still great to *finally* see a port to PC wriggling its way out of them, makes home setups much less janky if you don't want to run ITG or something like that.
Finally the dedicated DDR experience at home!
dom
After 20 years and lot of competitors but hey it's a progress, that's what DDR should had been done at least since the early 2010's
@@ppprime98K they did. And it failed.
They made a Windows PC game back in 2001 or 2002, I don't remember which. I used to play it at home while in university.
I guess the current gen wouldn't know or remember that game
@@lpcrossover5424 Really? i only was aware of the console releases
Konami's business model with all their rhythm games is centered around japan arcades. They don't really care or try with anything outside it. All their pc ports are jank and you're better off downloading illegal arcade hdd rips, their controllers suck and you're better off with gamo2, yuancon, or stepmaniax/ltek depending on the game.
Ontop of all that konami is extremely aggressive with copyrighting every little feature in their games and sueing everyone who makes anything remotely similar to a rhythm game which ends up hurting the genre as a whole. Rip ITG.
Konami was already pretty high on my shit list with them killing off my favorite game francise Silent Hill. I kept an ok view of them due to how good bemani and their games tend to be. That view is slowly being tarnished.
Reminds me of what game critic Yahtzee Croshaw said: "It's sad that Konami turned evil; it's doubly sad that they're so fucking bad at it.". I have no idea what merit there is to fucking up the way Konami has for the past few years, besides a company suicide any% WR. Usually game companies get lazy and pump out inferior content that's AT LEAST up to a company standard, but Konami seems to have an active disdain for its consumers now.
I'm happy how well the game works with a 144hz monitor and how great the game feels to play on my SMX pad.
Oh hey Peter :0
Knowing Konami, if they're making a DDR mobile game of some kind, you're probably going to have to throw gatcha in order to get new songs or some bs like that.
i mean its konami
Just get an ltek
Konami be like: You want more than 2 songs per 6.4 credits in Dance Rush? "Die."
D: Community-made versions will always be better anyways.
Whens impulse :^)
I remember being hyped for impulse pad in like 2014 lmao
3:05 Not to mention that bluetooth can introduce latency, which I'm pretty sure people playing on a game with a 17~ms window wouldnt be too happy about
That's why u can adjust the offset but yeah
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@mega yeah fair lol but I see ppl do pretty decent stuff with bt but I guess idk. Taiko on switch controller is BT maybe low latency bt but yeah official controllers R kinda a joke
You didn't even talk about the game's pricing, which is 90% going to be like sdvx or iidx, which at this point just go to the arcade or play stepmania because you are paying monthly for leaderboards that are controlled by chris4life anyway (nothing wrong with Chris btw he's an absolute legend).
to be fair, if this does succeed (hopefully lol) then there could be a small boom of brand new pads being made from third parties so there’s at least a little light, however yeah keep it to konami for charging way more than they should for stuff that is not entirely good
Like SMX , l-tek, and PDP pads lel they already exist bc of ITG
The only soft pad id spend $200 on is an Ignition2
Just ported arcade data was literally all the DDR community wanted for years and it's so blatantly simple and easy to do that it's annoying that it's taken this long. It also bugs me that they have a 200 dollar pad for sale but no guarantees of the future of the actual game.
The controller thing does scare me a bit lol since i know people have pre ordered controllers for sdvx ultimate mobile which never came out lol
That soft mat looks like one of those DDR plug and play bootleg you can buy for 10$ on Wish or similar sites
someone needs to just get rid of all the old annoying people running konami that's making these rhythm games inaccessible. we shouldn't have to go through so much damn trouble to play these games.
The Alpha does work with the LTEK, so I'm not sure why someone would spend $200 on a trash bag with sensors in it when they're half way to buying the bar kit, or a third of the way if you don't care about the bar. But it felt good (and demoralizing after PFCing songs on SM) to feel those arcade timing windows again.
For us we can't understand but in Japan companies like Konami and Sega are tightly controlling the rhythm games market, so much that Konami are probably the only japanese company that produces dance games and there are stories that Konami paid Sega to not put pump it up in their arcades. Also L-tek don't really do shipping to Asia and owning a private arcade cab is a gray area there.
The bar kit on LTEK is 100% trash and I'd recommend making your own with parts from any large hardware store. Material is up to you but if somebody paid me to do it I'd use stainless steel so it don't rust or corrode and wrap it with tennis racket tape.
@@setxjrichie9745 dude there’s literally videos of me using it. If it doesn’t move with my size it’s fine.
I got a softpad from amazon for just like 10-20 quid not 200 or whatever
Konami is seriously the worst company. They do their best to not only make it difficult to play their own games they have already ruined but also ruin other company's games. And now this.
Literally ITG2 is still a better game than A20 plus
Konami just lazy …. They didn’t make new dancing stage since ddr x …. Besides ddr ii for wii I guess it’s bc Naomi no longer working there
@@hallrules and because they were being threatened by a better game they sued... free market at its finest lol
when i saw the pad in the thumbnail, i legit thought that it was a knock off softpad but no, thats the actual design. couldnt they have made them at least look like the ddr a arcade pads and not, whatever the hell the design they chose is?
Konami really knows how to make great games that are extremely inaccessible. I'm just getting back into DDR, and the last version I played was extreme. The amount of research I'm having to do is insane. I feel like a complete fucking noob trying to figure all of this shit out with e amusement and wondering how to hell to play specific songs because I'm not seeing them in the DDR A arcade. Seriously, what the actual fuck is this secret society bullshit? Why should I have to go on a Japanese website with little to no English to pay a subscription service just to edit the fucking opacity of the background and change the fucking character? I can do difficulty 15-16 songs, and yet I feel like I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing or looking at when I'm trying to figure out the interface of DDR A. And it seems impossible to find straight forward resources on how to do any of this shit. It's absolute fucking lunacy.
I share your pain as a IIDX player. My advice is, either run HDD rips or Stepmania (especially with ITG windows through Outfox or by using the Simply Love theme). I am biased because I love ITG but there's a legit community around making ITG maps, and I do tend to believe they are superior to many of the maps Konami shits out for DDR. If you're playing DDR 15/16s you will find a lot to love in ITG FA charts, around the difficulty 10 mark.
@@Cobalt985 yeah I ended up investing in an Ltek pad and I have stepmania 5 with an ddr a3 theme. Best investment of my life honestly
I've downloaded the Alpha and it works like a dream with the SMX stage. A step in the right direction for DDR at home!
Konami so lazy they can’t even make new dance moves or dancing stages .
DDR PS2 TYPE BEAT LMFAO
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@@mikko5384 wsg brotha
@@Cirnology im good bro
You should make an update video on this and talk about its fully released form, "ddr grand prix". I think it might make a good small video
I just want to say although the pad can be a soft pad, There's nothing on the website saying it is a soft pad (correct me if I am wrong)
well the website did show you can fold the pad, so its a soft pad.
@@Hertage thanks for the heads up
Been playing DDRA20 for the past year and just recently A20 plus arcade HDD dump on my pc at home. There is no chance I’m paying a monthly sub for this game let me buy it outright, I’ll gladly pay for unlimited access and additional $ for potential future upgrades. But the port needs to be flawless, so far spice tools + hdd rip has been working wonders for me on private hosted servers with their own leaderboards. Also it’s nice to see most of the high scores being 999xxx and not full pages of 1M’s from chris4life (not hating at all btw ur solid) clogging every song.
Hey man! I got an e-mail saying that Konami will launch a second edition of the _Grand Prix_ controller soon. This will also work on the _DDR Classic Mini_ cabinet, a remake of _3rdMix_ and older games. What do you think? I still believe that the soft pad costs too much for what it is.
"If they do, that's fantastic". Shouldn't you have said marvelous?
"Konami is trying to rip DDR players off." *pretends to be shocked*
the more cynical among us might say we get ripped off every time we go to the arcade
amog
Here's my thought's & prediciton, at least from this Alpha Release:
- The dance pad they sell from Konami Style is too expensive & kinda worthless. The material is same just like PS2 mat version, or even cheap & bootleg pad being sold on some online shops. Only worth if you wanna have a unique design for the mat & have bluetooth capability for the pad. Which is not recommended for using bluetooth if you want a full experience, because usually bluetooth control is sluggish in rhythm game.
- Big possibility, when the final release for PC ver or it's called "Konaste" version for now, it will be a paid service in order to play it. Just like IIDX Infinitas, SDVX for Konaste, etc. But I can't exactly sure how's the price per month will be, until the official statement release by Konami. (Hopefully won't be that expensive if Konami wants to apply subscription system, because I know everyone might gonna say exactly the same sentence like this video title does)
- This might also a bad news to play, you need Japan Region Konami ID previously to play Konaste ver. because subscription reason. But fortunately, as of today, outside Japan's Credit Card is now accepted except if it's Amex. Just use Visa or Mastercard or JCB for this case and it should be solved for good.
- If we see on other bemani games exist in Konaste for now, at least SDVX are linked with the arcade ver so if you play it on arcade with same e-amusement and have score recorded for the songs you've played, it will be synced on Konaste too & vice versa. This might be happen on DDR Konaste too when final release but IT'S STILL NOT CONFIRMED for this case until we see the final release & being explained by Konami itself at a later & unknown date. (Personally I hope this is implemented for real because seamless experience like this might helping me at least to carry my own data into 1 & unified and able to play it anywhere.)
That's for now.
yeah konami does some wack things, even old soft pads are pretty bad, hard pads are just a lot better and definitely worth the extra money if you can get it
LTEK is similar to the oldschool Cobalt Flux and about the same price. Don't buy their bar kit though it's pretty trash and it's better to just make your own
The Bluetooth is for the supposed DDR Ultimate Mobile. The fact that it has no USB however makes this an offensive purchase at best.
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lol
What are they even thinking? bluetooth has latency which could ruin the gameplay experience
There are PCs out there that don’t have USB ports so idk. Besides, why not have both? It offers both.
@@lpcrossover5424 There isn't unless you're talking about serial-only computers from the 90s. USB-C is another USB standard and an inexpensive adapter will let you plug in USB-A devices. Also I promise you DDR/ITG fans own computers with USB A ports.
@@Cobalt985 dang. One year ago. This PC version changed a lot.
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If they add older songs, like the 4th mix plus pack, then I’ll use it
I’ll wait a little longer until the PC port is completely done
I'd venture a guess that the reason there are so few songs might be due to terms in some of the musical licenses. But of course laziness is a better assumption.
Added to watch later ;]
wait what 22 hours ago???
@@radanju3 patreon
Wait wtf?
Ok
???
HOW AND WHEN CAN I PLAY IT?
Bluetooth is for DDR mobile
They had it testing at KAC
agreed
Everybody should just be playing Pump It Up instead lmao
Yes, but the ui is terrible, No soft or fading transition between screens and it irritates me as a guy who plays ddr with those ui advantages. And lastly, PIU's pads have latency issues even tho its a hard-wired connection. I will wait until andamiro fixes these issues.
But I like 4 panel dance games
It supports bluetooth compatibility but it offers USB plug-in. The website also states only 1000 of these units are expected to be made.
It's way too soon to be certain because Konami is Konami, but it's important to note the USB connection thing. Personally, I think the only people this would interest are the only people they expect to target with this: Diehard collectors of DDR/Bemani merch.
Still great to *finally* see a port to PC wriggling its way out of them, makes home setups much less janky if you don't want to run ITG or something like that.
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