I updated my threadripper Noctua NH-U14S TR4 cooler with the matched G2 fan set and got about 4-5 degrees improvement - was worth the cost for me and the old 140mm cooler fans are now recycled as top case fans
Amazing video! I've always been skeptical about Noctua air coolers but, this video has definitely convinced me to purchasing this cooler in the future. Also, nice intro song btw the way, not sure who the artist is but, the song goes very well with the video. Thanks!
I have a few Assassin IV coolers running in a couple of my systems and they're just fine for now. Noctua make great fans for sure but the ROI needs to be reduced by that "fanboy tax" before I buy them. Excellent video and review Lauri, thanks.
I think noctua Should update some of their products too other than the d 15 & the l12s. Like the nh u14s , make a nh u14a but with a next gen fan + extra 2 heatpipes.
I actually would prefer them to focus on their Thermosiphon for the not so distant future. A 28m or 360 mm Thermosiphon which has no pumps, take my money.
The LBC version is dead flat according to Gamers Nexus, which should make it ideal for direct-die (de-lid) cooling ..... assuming you can find a retention frame whose thickness exactly matches the CPU die thickness/ height above substrate/PCB. Most if not all don't unfortunately. De8auer, Rockit Cool et al don't have a very good understanding of the engineering problems involved in making their products work properly. I'm referring to the issue of creating even clamping pressure across an LGA socket - providing sufficient pressure for proper pin contact across the entire pin array, avoiding excess pressure on the die alone which bows the PCB up at the corners/edges and creates pin-contact problems.
I'm still rocking my NH-U14S that only has one fan, but I don't do heavy sustained gaming, just editing in Premiere Pro and it's very quiet and keeps my 5700X3D cool. Also, thank you for this video. I'm in the process of building a new system for my work editor and your info is very helpful.
Sorry, but I don't understand why you see the performance of the D15 G2 so positively. In your test of the Arctic Freezer 36 with T30 fans, it had 90 degrees Celsius at 14900k at 280W on pass 4 in Cinebench and no thermal throttling either, so shouldn't the 150$ Noctua cooler perform a little better at 250W than it does?
Love your explanations when you draw on paper it makes it so much easier to understand, and i can't wait to test my OG nh d15 with the new ryzen 9 for 3D workflow. Do you plan to do a comparison video of the proart laptops series again? With the addition of the new ones?
Intel hasn't really changed the way the ILM puts pressure on the CPU in a long time. They have been using the middle as the force of pressure for a decade+. LGA 1150 even did that. So there has always been some deflection of the heat spreader. There's maybe 1-2 degrees difference between the NH-D15 Gen 2 SKUs. That's within margin of error. It doesn't really make a difference.
bravo to engineers, the best cooler with a lot of interesting new features. Noctua is pushing the evolution of fans and coolers, sucks that other brands will just copy it (sucks to Noctua of course, good for users). On one hand I would like to spend my money on the product and support those guys, but on the other hand, 150$ is hella expensive. How about 100-120$? I would buy it for 100$
Are you recommending it for Intel i9 14900K (case Fractal Design Pop Silent)? I'm not doing any very demanding tasks. Figma / Browser / Slack / Zoom etc.
I think their Peerless Assassin with 140mm fans that they showed off at Computex is their real try at competing with this (and last gens) Noctua cooler. So maybe look for that in the near future, unless you need a cooler right this minute.
Can you give some intel advice from a creator standpoint? Been watching your videos and Lookin at the inspiriring z790 Proart Creator motherboard on my shelf and I like what Intel can do for Davinci resolve and others , but I fear buying a chip right now.
Also lock all P-cores in bios to the same clock speed (multiplier), as it seems that 1 or 2 cores likes to boost just a smidge higher at some points, and this is where they draw insane amounts of voltage. If you prevent them from going over the normal boost (I have an i7 13700K, and have locked the boost clock at 5.3Ghz, whereas before 2 of my cores would sometimes boost to 5.4Ghz.) then you should be safe, and Intel has said they would come out with a bios update mid-august, which should help some more in avoiding damage. If you are doing work that generally uses every core, then the loads are distributed more evenly, which doesn't put the same strain on the cores, as when 1 or 2 cores suddenly get a spike of voltage, so there's also that to take into consideration.
@@the12gaugeshotty You are the first I see saying this of like hundreds different reviewers builders comments etc. Everyone says its worth it and makes it better even with test the temps always go down and there is never any instability. Yes I've seen some out there that has said temps didn't go down but not ONE said that it made any problems or instability. It's mostly used to prevent bending of the CPU. Where do you get your stats ?
@@migthefig I think he might have watched someone who installed a contact frame and who might have overtightened it, so that it affected the CPU lanes on the motherboard, mainly the ones going to the RAM, which creates instability and such, but in no way does it void your warranty, as I have just bought the Arctic Liquid Freezer III AIO, and that includes a contact frame as the only option to install on LGA1700, and they wouldn't do that if they knew that everyone of their costumers would be voiding warranties.
I suspect the degradation problem is caused by trhottling at the beginning of cinebench. Perhaps too high a voltage spike is sent to the cpu to go from idle to full power state.
Why is it that you content creators avoid the Noctua U12a like the plague? Its just as good as the D15s so what's up that? Its small, allows for high profile ram and cools just as good as the ones you just covered and cheaper. I guess Noctua chooses what they want you to promote?
They have to say if it's sponsored in this way by law. However it's more likely to keep the tests uniform across the two? or does U12a have same kind of plates? Which if it does not like this info changes
Because they stuck to their same old colours the old noctua I run looks more like your new one cause you had to have new in their classic colours and old in black, They make good fans but by gawd could they not have found a better colour scheme in the last decade
Maybe you haven't noticed yet, but the CPU cooler has a base that rests on the CPU. So if you leveled the bases of the coolers instead of the tops, half of your talk would be pointless, because for example the cutouts would be at the same height. Next time I suggest you ask the engineers from Noctua why they did something and you could try to share that knowledge with the viewers. But I don't know if you'll succeed, because they're engineers and you (judging by your video) aren't, so you won't necessarily understand what they told you. Regardless, thank you for your enthusiasm! :)
What the heck Noctua! Is this the snake oil version of the AV cabling world! The heat transference equivalent of the crystal-clear cleanest signaling grift? You did not even bother to give the cooler a 4 point clampdown, but thought that changing the base and offering some super specialty versions was the clever thing to do on a 'heat pipe only' cooler? A poorly conceived concept of increasing the product lifecycle cost for everyone by focusing on an extremely niche idea that should never have become an actual major marketing USP.
Ahh a sponsor who seems like they profit from piracy, one I can for once approve of If you can't learn to pirate windows yourself via the shell the grey market is always better than paying the big tech man.
At the price they are selling this.....just get a liquid cooler and it will be better and silent too. Water is a better conductor of heat. You can't beat physics no matter how much money you throw at it
Peace of mind. Water pumps can fail and tubes can leak. Air is install and forget. Although yea i very much prefer thermalright than noctua they’re just ridiculous
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Important Correction: The LGA 1817 is AMD's AM5 socket. Intel's new socket is LGA 1851.
appreciate that!
AMD AM5 is LGA 1718
@@pangeranrio0112 yes am5 is lga 1718
Wait what? Really?
NH-D15S is working fine.
same. i thinking if i may, can buy a second fan for it. 🥺👌
As a machinist, I'd love to have each one of these models and actually measure how much they curve from the factory.
I purchased a D15 to install in my large case without much consideration, but it doesn't fit. However, it works fantastically. This cooler is huge.
I updated my threadripper Noctua NH-U14S TR4 cooler with the matched G2 fan set and got about 4-5 degrees improvement - was worth the cost for me and the old 140mm cooler fans are now recycled as top case fans
Nice!
Amazing video! I've always been skeptical about Noctua air coolers but, this video has definitely convinced me to purchasing this cooler in the future. Also, nice intro song btw the way, not sure who the artist is but, the song goes very well with the video. Thanks!
Great to hear!
I have a few Assassin IV coolers running in a couple of my systems and they're just fine for now. Noctua make great fans for sure but the ROI needs to be reduced by that "fanboy tax" before I buy them. Excellent video and review Lauri, thanks.
I think noctua Should update some of their products too other than the d 15 & the l12s. Like the nh u14s , make a nh u14a but with a next gen fan + extra 2 heatpipes.
I actually would prefer them to focus on their Thermosiphon for the not so distant future. A 28m or 360 mm Thermosiphon which has no pumps, take my money.
I Was waiting for this review before buying.
buy a thermalright phatom spirit evo it's a third of the price for same performance xd
@@mygale562 it's not available where I live.
Yes, I would pau $150.00 dollars for the NH-D15 GEN 2, I brought the 1st GEN 1 and still going strong in my 3rd PC build.
The LBC version is dead flat according to Gamers Nexus, which should make it ideal for direct-die (de-lid) cooling ..... assuming you can find a retention frame whose thickness exactly matches the CPU die thickness/ height above substrate/PCB. Most if not all don't unfortunately.
De8auer, Rockit Cool et al don't have a very good understanding of the engineering problems involved in making their products work properly. I'm referring to the issue of creating even clamping pressure across an LGA socket - providing sufficient pressure for proper pin contact across the entire pin array, avoiding excess pressure on the die alone which bows the PCB up at the corners/edges and creates pin-contact problems.
Damn i like your videos grest quality
I'm still rocking my NH-U14S that only has one fan, but I don't do heavy sustained gaming, just editing in Premiere Pro and it's very quiet and keeps my 5700X3D cool. Also, thank you for this video. I'm in the process of building a new system for my work editor and your info is very helpful.
Sorry, but I don't understand why you see the performance of the D15 G2 so positively. In your test of the Arctic Freezer 36 with T30 fans, it had 90 degrees Celsius at 14900k at 280W on pass 4 in Cinebench and no thermal throttling either, so shouldn't the 150$ Noctua cooler perform a little better at 250W than it does?
24c is "quite warm". I'm over here enjoying a cozy 28-30°C in my room, while my CPU is cranking up at 40°C all the time.
great sketching btw. I will install my CPU now on top of my cooler. ;-)
Love your explanations when you draw on paper it makes it so much easier to understand, and i can't wait to test my OG nh d15 with the new ryzen 9 for 3D workflow.
Do you plan to do a comparison video of the proart laptops series again? With the addition of the new ones?
i agreed with you, the price will likely going down, when the chromax release. I'm waitting.
Intel hasn't really changed the way the ILM puts pressure on the CPU in a long time. They have been using the middle as the force of pressure for a decade+. LGA 1150 even did that. So there has always been some deflection of the heat spreader. There's maybe 1-2 degrees difference between the NH-D15 Gen 2 SKUs. That's within margin of error. It doesn't really make a difference.
always great video
I appreciate that
bravo to engineers, the best cooler with a lot of interesting new features. Noctua is pushing the evolution of fans and coolers, sucks that other brands will just copy it (sucks to Noctua of course, good for users). On one hand I would like to spend my money on the product and support those guys, but on the other hand, 150$ is hella expensive. How about 100-120$? I would buy it for 100$
yep
Can you please check if the old heatsinks cover can still be used on the new nhd 15 g2 😅😅😅
For how much you get in the box screwdrivers and all the other stuff I think 150 bucks is not too bad
Read that wrong. I was definitely curious about that hawk-tuah cooler tho!
I love you Pookie !
So, here we come from "one cooler for all platforms" to "each platform different cooler".
Thank you Lauri. When is your next livestream?
It’s like a fast food menu. Looks better on the box
Are you recommending it for Intel i9 14900K (case Fractal Design Pop Silent)? I'm not doing any very demanding tasks. Figma / Browser / Slack / Zoom etc.
price is right boys
Whats that keyboard?
I could see myself actually pulling the trigger on a 150$ cooler if it came in black.
Damn, I just read that delidded LGA1700 CPUs are not compatible with the G2 "due to SMDs on the package being higher than die"
Can i use corsair vegnance ddr5 rgb ram with this cooler?
the old d15 have a better/nice sound...it is more pleasant. just bought the old d15 black just for this reason.
You are saying if I am concerned about sound to just get the old d15 version for my 9800 build?
I wish they would make a nh-d15s gen2 with a 150x35mm fan.
did you say..... Noc-Tuahhhhh??? 😅
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Still confused which thermalright cooler to buy 😅
I think their Peerless Assassin with 140mm fans that they showed off at Computex is their real try at competing with this (and last gens) Noctua cooler. So maybe look for that in the near future, unless you need a cooler right this minute.
Can you give some intel advice from a creator standpoint? Been watching your videos and Lookin at the inspiriring z790 Proart Creator motherboard on my shelf and I like what Intel can do for Davinci resolve and others , but I fear buying a chip right now.
I'd say stick to default settings and voltage and you should be fine!
Also lock all P-cores in bios to the same clock speed (multiplier), as it seems that 1 or 2 cores likes to boost just a smidge higher at some points, and this is where they draw insane amounts of voltage. If you prevent them from going over the normal boost (I have an i7 13700K, and have locked the boost clock at 5.3Ghz, whereas before 2 of my cores would sometimes boost to 5.4Ghz.) then you should be safe, and Intel has said they would come out with a bios update mid-august, which should help some more in avoiding damage.
If you are doing work that generally uses every core, then the loads are distributed more evenly, which doesn't put the same strain on the cores, as when 1 or 2 cores suddenly get a spike of voltage, so there's also that to take into consideration.
@@TigonIII Thank you! You are a gentleman and a scholar!🙏
And the fins on the sides of the cold plate makes a annoying sound.
10 Years of Development and still not being able to paint it blac😞
Can I still use a CPU Contact Frame for Intel with the HBC one ?
You should never use a contact frame. It can add to instability and will void your warranty.
@@the12gaugeshotty You are the first I see saying this of like hundreds different reviewers builders comments etc. Everyone says its worth it and makes it better even with test the temps always go down and there is never any instability. Yes I've seen some out there that has said temps didn't go down but not ONE said that it made any problems or instability. It's mostly used to prevent bending of the CPU. Where do you get your stats ?
@@the12gaugeshottySource: trust me bro
@@j_shelby_damnwird Yeah exactly hahaha lol
@@migthefig I think he might have watched someone who installed a contact frame and who might have overtightened it, so that it affected the CPU lanes on the motherboard, mainly the ones going to the RAM, which creates instability and such, but in no way does it void your warranty, as I have just bought the Arctic Liquid Freezer III AIO, and that includes a contact frame as the only option to install on LGA1700, and they wouldn't do that if they knew that everyone of their costumers would be voiding warranties.
I suspect the degradation problem is caused by trhottling at the beginning of cinebench. Perhaps too high a voltage spike is sent to the cpu to go from idle to full power state.
Cool, i already bought the wrong one... :)
yes i did
9950x 에 사용할려고 d15 g2 lbc 아마존 주무했는데 3일 지나도 발송전이라 취소함.. d15s 로도 충분한듯
16:27 "deez nuts" 🤣🤣
goteeeeeeeem
Lol
Why is it that you content creators avoid the Noctua U12a like the plague? Its just as good as the D15s so what's up that? Its small, allows for high profile ram and cools just as good as the ones you just covered and cheaper. I guess Noctua chooses what they want you to promote?
They have to say if it's sponsored in this way by law. However it's more likely to keep the tests uniform across the two? or does U12a have same kind of plates? Which if it does not like this info changes
Because they stuck to their same old colours the old noctua I run looks more like your new one cause you had to have new in their classic colours and old in black,
They make good fans but by gawd could they not have found a better colour scheme in the last decade
A great cooler, but the question is whether it can cool the Intel Core 7 14700k or not. I have a RUclips channel and I need a powerful computer.
So if you have an i5-13600k along with G2 is it good or go with HBC?
Maybe you haven't noticed yet, but the CPU cooler has a base that rests on the CPU. So if you leveled the bases of the coolers instead of the tops, half of your talk would be pointless, because for example the cutouts would be at the same height. Next time I suggest you ask the engineers from Noctua why they did something and you could try to share that knowledge with the viewers. But I don't know if you'll succeed, because they're engineers and you (judging by your video) aren't, so you won't necessarily understand what they told you.
Regardless, thank you for your enthusiasm!
:)
I wont, ill buy thermalright.
What the heck Noctua! Is this the snake oil version of the AV cabling world! The heat transference equivalent of the crystal-clear cleanest signaling grift? You did not even bother to give the cooler a 4 point clampdown, but thought that changing the base and offering some super specialty versions was the clever thing to do on a 'heat pipe only' cooler? A poorly conceived concept of increasing the product lifecycle cost for everyone by focusing on an extremely niche idea that should never have become an actual major marketing USP.
I bought wrong version still worked but was not very cool LOL got the right one and there was a huge difference
Next stop GPU cooler
Is this just me or this whole video have voice delay bout 0,5 sec?
Noctua now brought F1 downforce to PCs
By the time the 13/14 gen 1700 bends it will be dead anyway.
And the bots are here.
Ive hidden like a 100 from the channel every video brings a few more 🙈
Ahh a sponsor who seems like they profit from piracy, one I can for once approve of
If you can't learn to pirate windows yourself via the shell the grey market is always better than paying the big tech man.
10 years to manufacture lmao
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*DON'T BUY the WRONG NOCTUA Cooler!*
Buy a Thermalright Phantom Spirit instead! 🙃🙃
At the price they are selling this.....just get a liquid cooler and it will be better and silent too. Water is a better conductor of heat. You can't beat physics no matter how much money you throw at it
Peace of mind. Water pumps can fail and tubes can leak. Air is install and forget. Although yea i very much prefer thermalright than noctua they’re just ridiculous
Does Noctua make a computer case ?
I wish!