Is New World Shutting Down?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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0:00 Intro
2:00 The Current State of New World
6:17 New Players vs Veteran Players
13:06 Future of New World
17:25 Console Release
22:42 Final Thoughts
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Do you guys think New World will still be around in 2025? What's your thoughts on the current state of the game?
Dead
Dead and most of the twitch streamers who regularly plays New World has switched to Helldivers 2.
I really hope so I love new world it has so much potential there’s no mmo like it. It only does if we as the community let it die
hopefully its gonna be better. coz idont see myself playing pay to win, pay to play mmos in the market right now 😢
i think it will be around and i like how you kept your opinion honest and straight to facts
I put a lot of hours into the game it was fun and has pretty amazing potential. It was 100% mismanaged, they did a few good things but for the most part they either blew it or went the wrong direction. Just needed a bit more end game and I’d still be playing.
Men what a sad time... The game was amazing, but really... Bad decisions from the devs 😢
Mismanaged or just a playground tech demo for upcoming LOTR.
@@mightymort915not the best advertisement for LOTR tbf. In both ways)))
Yea and it's also just been a technical mess. The engine definitely had a lot of problems and I think the bugs put a bad taste in people's mouth. The game always felt like a proof of concept to me for something bigger
@@punchykarma6685 true, a missed opportunity for sure
At the end of the day, people have had enough of the lack of endgame content, slow updates, delayed updates ect ect,
i hate the game play, only 6 skils with the weapon swap it gets so boring, there is so many game that offer a lot more fun wile playing.
the worst mmorpg ive invested that much time, in hope that someday it would have some pvp content, total trash
@@0Nuxx0I agree. I like MMO's where you open up a skill book and can see like 15-20 of them and what level they unlock at. Makes getting new levels something to look forward to. In this game, you get all the abilities on a weapon within an hour. There also isn't any gear in the game that DRASTICALLY changes the way abilities work. Like for example, getting a fire staff that makes your pillar of fire summon a small meteor that lands on the targets location 2 sec after, or something like that. Just generic "x% increased damage"
slow updates? looks like "no updates"
@@leandrodmsi bezo's is using that sweet mmorpg costume money on his dildo rocket thats going to get america to mars
The insane level of poor management has allowed AGS to create a game that is basically 1/2 finished world of warcraft from 20 years ago. They took 3 years to figure out everything that was known about mmo's 2 decades ago. Combine that with a staff that seems to think they are supposed to tell their customers what they want rather than listening to feedback, and you get the biggest wasted potential game of all time. I will however give mad props to the sound department, story writers and art department. They kicked butt while the software engineers seemed to be on every drug known to man.
I agree about the sound and art department, but the story is so bad. I was upset when the game released and virtually had no story, and when they attempted to make one, I was even more sad that that's the best they could come up with.
thats what happens when you hire people that never played or programmed any MMO previously. Games need to be made with passion not because you can or for greed.
Wdym “they took 3 years to figure out everything that was known about mmo’s 2 decades ago”?
They definitely never listen to the player base. It's pretty wild. The whole idea of 50 v 50 pvp battles for cities was so cool.... until you realized it was always the same players invited to the battles because the battle leader could just infinitely kick people out of the queue until they got the players they wanted.. Definitely awful game design there.
I never understood why people complimented the art of this game. It always looked like shit to me. Uninspired generic fantasy stuff haphazardly copypasted around (often very goofily, like putting 2 identical villages in the same region almost in line of sight of each other). Even screenshots people were sharing going all "whoa such beauty" looked like screenshots from 2003 of some random mid product.
Even dungeons felt plain as fuck, I can't remember a single moment when I was impressed by the scene (something that Elden Ring for instance does every 5 minutes, lol).
RIP New World.
It's sure as hell dead to me. I'm not being a guinea pig for the next couple of years as they focus on console and then move on to LOTR.
People not even fight for new world is good or bad , eveyone accpeted its a dead game lol. im so sorry for this but happened.
It was fun af that first month lol
@@cmoney163 the bear cave XD
@@pothofoxolo-treepaintneint3204 its not dead tho, i play on a pretty high-pop server. its like DDO and LOTR. it has its own player base. its not dead just small. its not wow or FF14 its not spear headed by a big company it didnt get much advertisement as wow or ff so it means amazon didnt try to push to the public very hard.
Dungeons and Dragons online has solid endgame content, but they also have a reincarnation option. It let's you take your max level character back down to level 1. When doing this you get a small bonus like +1 to a ability score or a couple points in stamina or other stats. New world could easily do this and have a player base at every level
Sounds like a Prestige leveling, which can be found in other online games as DbD, Warframe and who knows what others. You reach the cap, reset, and become more powerful with every level & cap reset. I dont see how this could work in NW, since not even the basic quest are not replayable...
Like 500 people play ddo. Its not a good example.
@@tzunnyniband since it’s a mainly PvP game, giving a power based reward for Prestigeing could force everyone to Prestige so as not to get stomped by vets with too much time on their hands who prestiged 10 times because it was all they had to do outside of spamming Outpost Rush
New World died for me on my birthday. I was running to one of the last few outposts, just doing some quests and close to lvl 60, and was kicked out of the game with the message I had been banned for cheating. After reaching out to customer support I was told 1) it was a _permanent_ ban, and 2) "I knew what I did". I ripped them a fucking new one and had a different rep reach out to me and say my ban was converted to 24 hours. It should have been scrapped altogether as I wasn't and had never cheated; this was when it was a known issue that people were mass reporting others to kick them. This game can go fuck itself.
That was a problem even back in the beta...
I bought a new character
you shouldnt be f**king be cheating bud, you know what you did and got caught
@@daMillenialTruckerreally hoping there's a kappa there
I remember back when thousands of dudes were apparently being banned. Tens of thousands was what ppl were saying.
Everyone said the same thing. "Shouldn't have cheated". But if they can pick up on people cheating to that extent, why is the game STILL filled with bots? Why is cheating STILL so prevalent. You'll have blatant cheaters.
I believe the ppl saying that they were banned without reason
Players that are still playing the game are like the band on the TITANIC that kept playing the music while it was sinking 😅😂 #RIP
Fr talkin bout “na it ain’t dead bro!!!” 😂
i bought the game 2 years ago for 40$ and i got 2000 hours of content out of it. worth the money! theres some 90$ game that i can finish in 40 hours 😅 i dont understand you guys at all 😂
@@jethrogee3839 what are you even talking about lol nobody cares abt price and hrs. The game has a current population of 9k with no content and no major updates until the end of 2024. You are delusional if you don’t see that
@@sirdem3029 what are you even talking about? yall looking for content does 2000 hours are not enough ?
@@jethrogee3839 bruh.. this says it all 😂
Just under 2,000 hours in the game. I was part of one of the very first alphas when it was full loot-drop pvp with base-building and have followed the journey since. I'm sad that AGS just couldn't seem to get it right for this title - be that dev issues, exec issues, or a combination of both. The concept was so good.
The original concept was not good. It was naked people with wooden swords beating each other. The transformation to theme park MMO with some trailing pieces of survival is what made the game a unique game in the market. The only real downside I see is that they can't generate content at a pace that keeps up with player consumption. But that is not unique to New World; that is an issue for any MMO launching these days because people will always compare to games with 10+ years of content that keeps getting repackaged.
@@heartless_gamer The switch actually brought it in line with the slop. There was nothing unique about New World at release and the little original things it kept were just bad and had no purpose left.
Even besides the borked balance that made smaller levels spank higher levels for hilarious scenes, the whole "PvP" (which devolved pretty fast in zerging around, very far from DAoC RvR and stuff) side of things was worthless (not to mention the PvP quests were just PvE quests in PvP areas).
Overall it was pretty clear they had no clue how to manage the "theme ride" side of things and even less how to connect the two.
The game wasn't bad because it lacked content, it was bad because what was there was ultra bad (mostly by design which is the important part).
Most people that stuck around were mindlessly running around pressing E on resource nodes because that was the real core of the game. Go figure why the numbers dropped so fast.
What is really ridiculous about things like OPR is that the map was created during Alpha and tested by myself and others pre-release. And it has remained substantially unchanged for 3 years. I don't know what AGS' secret agenda was with NW -- I suspect data gathering and learning for its role as a game producer and perhaps for future games. Only something like that would explain how they have bungled NW - they must have goals in mind that focus on data gathering and testing user behavior and reactions, and DO NOT include creating a vibrant and sustainable MMO in NW.
some games have a lifespan is what it is
bcos arenas & opr wasnt the plan.. open world & wars were.. prob wanted long term players but they just want loads of small maps instead
95% of games have a lifespan infact.@@crimnvL
New world was actual designed to be a open world full loot pvp game. The whole craft system was created on that direction. Happens that they change before launch and yes, they screw all their plans. This is why the game suffer of lack of endgame content.
no, they looked at all other hardcore pvp loot games & decided they dont last long enough to focus on that mode alone.. @@JulioCesar-mr1vp
Personally, I just started playing a week or two ago and am hooked. I straight up love this game and pray it keeps going and hopefully growing.
Same for me. Im level 56 but im not gonna play a game that has 6k-8k players in a 24 hour peak. I dont want to feel that i waste my time...
It definitely will!! It's coming to console, and as an avid console player who has played this game on PC with a controller, I am so amped! People tend to degrade games on PC so quickly due to the mass amount of variety you have. We literally have like 3 ACTUAL MMOs on Xbox that have true pvp. Elder scrolls, BDO, and maybe Neverwinter, which I never cared for. Albion would be a great game for console. Anyways, I cannot wait to play this on my xbox!
3000 hours on this game. Some of the best times ive ever had gaming. I met so many amazing people that I still talk to even though I quit a while ago. Dont regret the time I wasted
If you had fun, then the time wasn't ''wasted'' :)
so you do admit you wasted time
@starofeden9277 3000 hours on any video game if you're not a successful streamer imo is wasting time. I was way too addicted. I don't game like that anymore
You'll eventually find, regardless of the game, it is the people you meet along the way that give you the good experience and nostalgia. I had the same feeling back in Burning Crusade wow. The people make the game worthwhile, not the game itself. But if a game has soul and is made by people passionate about the project that can bring people together, that is always a plus.
@@Riaining7 Vanilla WoW and TBC were made with so much love, those game are absolutely epic even today. I'd play a fresh server anytime :) Just waiting for one to release, someday hopefully
3k hours played. Good game with incredible potential completely mismanaged at almost every turn by relatively inexperienced devs who only seemed to begin to have direction when it was too late. They spent most of their time remaking the MSQ over and over with each patch when the majority of their player based had already finished it and were crying out for end game content. Sad to see it go, but most of us just ran out of patience with this dev team's ineptitude. They have no business getting anywhere near the LotR ip. Unfortunately, they'll probably ruin that too.
I doubt they would be doing a complete overhaul of their combat code if they are looking into shutting down. There also were new features and raids datamined from the PTR. I think we've got stuff coming, but they're not ready to announce it.
Also Re: Controller - people have been asking about it even when the game was in Beta. It was supposed to come out shortly after launch. So it's not done on a whim, they're just delivering a thing that was supposed to be included at their 2021 launch ;) And yes - you make a good point about console, it would certainly make sense.
It’s for the lotr mmo not new world 👌
@@Zhgarrtheir was no complete overhaul, it’s already in the live if u enable it on the ptr. They just flipped a switch…
ye damn , been only like 3 years , better not rush that 2nd raid .
@BagginsTV I'd be curious to know what game you are looking forward to as your next game. I imagine as a business you must be hoping for something you can move to so your channel doesn't follow the trend of new world.
Thx for staying strong Mr Baggins . I love new world . I still play every single day and it is STILL the best MMO that I have ever played .
he went on prime time on a good day to check player numbers lol, go check at any other time and its like 6k players, like right now (friday 15/match 11:29AM london time)
It's sad that you have to make this video. The twitch clip of you getting Vengeance was such a happy moment and it was fun seeing it.
I have thousands of hours into this game as well. I really enjoyed helping new players through tough dungeons for their first time. Now, I can solo everything and the players that need help manage to die to basic mobs. I could get past this but when I get kicked from the game constantly..........
Too much frustration for me, it's just not worth it.
After more than 2 years after launch the main end game activities revolves around running in zergs looting over world treasure chests, so yes, the game is trash. No raiding, no swimming STILL in a water themed MMO.
What I didn't like was I hit a brick wall as a solo player trying to get involved in end game. I had no idea what to do regarding builds and end bosses, I did ask for help and there was none forth coming. It's probably not New World's fault, it's just the way I play. I was hoping this would be so good as I did actually play in the alpha and the beta.
Nah it’s the games fault. It was and maybe still is vague. I had fun when I came back but I had to watch over 100 hours of video to really understand stats and interactions. Bosses and other tactics.
That’s why I make videos on those issues. I felt the same, and it took me a long time to fully understand the game. 🤙
You are spot on with your suggestions! Easy wins for little effort... it will still be sh#t talked, but everyone will love replaying the content with updated loot tables. It gives the end game more variety - all re-hashed content. But enough that it will not get stale so quickly, because there would be many options.
One of my favorite modes was invasions, it would of been so easy for them to swap up the waves spawns etc, randomize the corrupted, lost or angry earth as the attackers but it never changed except for the spawn times that one patch speeding things up a little.
Give the owners of the town an option to make the invasions harder e.g. mutated it could of been great end game content.
Sadly they never updated invasions in the couple years I played the game for :(
Such a great game with so much potential, so much low hanging fruit has been ignored.
New World needs to seriously take a look at what they are doing with this game. 10 year old MMOs are pumping out content more consistently. Look at ESO steam numbers in comparison to NW, and then think about how steam is the smaller platform for that game. AGS is really letting this one get out of hand, extremely unfortunate.
Adding a pay DLC to a dying game, shows how much devs really care about the players..
Devs doesn't decide pricing, never did and never will. Their bosses do.
this game belongs to Amazon with the CEO being Jeff Bezo's, Bezo's decides what the game gets and how much they sell it for. Bezo is trying launch his dildo rocket to space, okay? so just buy the dlc
well in that case please dont play any of the better mmos like world of warcraft or elder scrolls online guild wars because you would cry lol you clearly have no clue
I do think they made a conscious choice, knowing full well the blowback and impact on dwindling player base, to focus on components that needed upgrade and/or implemented for console release. I do hope that this foundation building that is going on now will reap rewards for us down the road. But like you say, it's also completely possible that they will shift their sights on the LOTR MMO and leave New World in the dusts of Brimstone.
I’m a returning player that played about 3 months over a year ago and worked my way up to M10s. I quit because there were so many people trying to do M10s that weren’t geared for it, then blamed other things (including me), when they died. My last game was a healer in luck gear blaming me for their numerous deaths. I came back and after a lot of frustration (I got moved servers and couldn’t play with 2 friends that weren’t moved for some reason, game crashing 100% of the time with the expansion), I stuck with it and have been grinding to get gear for builds, started PVPing more, and it’s still impossible to get consistent M3 groups without waiting forever. If only I could get 4 friends to come back, grinding M3s and improving is so fun.
I feel that. I make videos on that exact same issue cause whenever people link me their gear for m3’s it’s just 🤦♂️ most of the time. I wanna help them understand. 🤙
The loot tables. Not only from Trial, but from everywhere! OPR, arena, old chest runs, Pools, Zygorament etc. It's that simple
the chest runs were cool; i loved it with the gear score thing
@@scudsturm1bruh ☠️☠️☠️
Thank you for all the videos and honesty!!
I haven't played New World in a month and have no incentive to come back and believe the only reason Baggins still plays is because it's his bread and butter. There's no way for him NOT to be bias. I don't think anyone not playing it for a career would still be playing it at the end game for so long, where literally no content exists.
1. No focus on endgame
2. No update to Worm raid
3. Why didn't AGS make thematic OPR maps and modes based on every zone in the game?
4. Why did they never release black dye again?
5. Why no ability to save full transmog looks to apply all?
6. No Multi-boss raids
New World is the single most mismanaged MMO I have ever played, and I've been playing MMOs since 2001. I've played and GM'd for MMOS, I've released popular UIS for WOW, I've run guilds, I've done it all. From Anarchy Online to WOW, RIFT, DAIC, EQ2, LOTR, FFXIV, and more. Do not @playnewworld.
Copy pasting old content into new will not bring people back.
Updating the Worm will not bring people back.
The only thing that will bring people back is a MASSIVE expansion with all the features we've felt have been missing or broken for the past 2 years.
Yes I believe Baggins ultimately wants people playing because it's how he makes his money.
Been genuine and a killer creator from the jump bro. Hope you stay happy and healthy.
I came back and am having a lot of fun its just there's not much new things to do
Excellent 😎 - Year one Supporter who's happy to get swimming by mid this year & new content by Q3 - 🙂
We need new OPR maps and modes with meaningful rewards. That alone would be a HUGE boon to the game.
i'm virtually certain they already have one, in the latest dev video one of them mentioned "another team has ideas for that" and then got cut off by the other dev saying "not planned for release right now." I think they are saving cool stuff like that for the LotR game.
They should just section off one part of each zone and make it a map ffs it can’t be that hard..then again they got like 3 ppl running NW now
The is only a neesh group pf people that will play lotr mmo it wont last after a year of release only one mmo themed off of a movie was star wars mmo that was successful soo i bet this wont be number 2@23desdfe345r2fd23f23
New OPR maps would really just be for the current playerbase. There is no evidence new PvP maps/modes are going to bring back players. They didn't before. There is evidence that PvE content drops like Brimstone Sands and Angry Earth will bring back players for a period of time to consume that content.
This isn't to say a major PvP update such as the possible free for all PvP island wouldn't create buzz but they are going to have to be bundled with some other sort of major update.
New OPR maps? More garbage PvP huh? How is that working out for your game currently? This game need PVE and tons of PVE content. You tryhard competitive pvp players can go play FPS games. Either way start searching cause your amazing pvp game is going down the drain.
I agree the lvling experience is amazing, i come back every few months just to do THAT with a different build. Just a shame the lack of endgame content.
I played a lot at the start. The worst thing I experienced was when they bugged loot drops and only common loot dropped for a long time before they fix it. Besides that it was a cool game to play with friends but eventually we as a group moved on with less time for grindy games. About a year or so later we thought it might be cool to go back and try it out again but with all the server condensing we were just in a bad ping spot and every server close to us had honorific ping issues and eventually it became a dead game to us. I will say a very funny moment was trying to grind the higher levels of animal pelts when you just couldn't get them or make them leading me to skin things for 5 hours then for the 2 hours skinning things that wouldn't drop pelts so I could reassure my friends that chickens, turkeys, alligators, and monsters don't drop rare pelts.
I hope you find a new mmo or game to love and invest in.
Being a 37y.o. single guy that works but has a lot of free time , I can't imagine my life without NW. This may sound silly but it will take very long for me to love a game again. I'm a difficult person when it comes to this. Last time I felt that was with PUBG 6-7 years ago.
Have you tried gw2? I find that to be the most rewarding game I've ever played and compared to new world pretty much every element of gameplay is superior, including the combat. It's much faster, it's got a waaaay higher learning curve and your dodges aren't anywhere near as spammable, so game knowledge and skill are crucial. You can pick up the game for free and compete against endgame characters in arenas as soon as you hit level 2.
@@arkdesign9517 playing GW2 and TERA was what made NW unbearable to me, they sold the game as if it had an amazing and improved combat for MMOs but it was just... bad. Dunno if they fixed it with time but it felt slower than FF14 with the whole GCD mechanic instead of having a GW2/TERA pace.
New World is a good game. It's not the best I've seen and end-game needs lovins but for someone who's not a total try-hard, it fits my life well. I have fun everyday that I can play.
@@arkdesign9517 I have in the past. It looked good but didnt get into it! But if a 3rd one comes i will play 100% !
I always loved your content Baggins, i can imagine the pressure you are under due to your job depending on this game. Would love you see move on to Season of Discovery and Ashes later this year :)
I have never played a game with so much unrealised potential. It's depressing.
Unfortunate situation. It is a good game, mainly in its PvP playability. However, the final experience of the game is extremely limited, which affects enjoyment.
PvP is horrid
Worst pvp in mmorpg gerne, unbalanced clunky with trash s mechanics made by physics teachers, 0 content 0 matchmaking in this s1tty opr map.. generally speaking the game should have shut down 2 years ago, only compulsive 50iq chestrunners keep logging in
This game had so much potential. What drove me and most of my friends away was the many exploits that went unpunished. Also, the company system that profit on the taxes of each territory is flawed, in my opinion, is a system that makes the rich get richier and i dont think its fair or healthy.
Just recently started and having fun so far to level 52 but without a mandatory subscription or PTW cash shop I'm not sure how much new content can be expected for the flat rate entrance fee. I definitely see me getting my moneys worth grinding to level 65. It's very odd to see players on Steam have 1000+ hours in this game and then rate it 1 star because now their bored now. What's wrong with finishing what you want to do in a game and then finding a new one to play?
Today you don't even need to gather people together to complete dungeons, there is a solo version of it with the same boss and its mechanics (ex. Isabella). The team is preparing the game to work as a single-player game as well. In the future, Invasions will spawn enemies proportionally to the amount of players taking part in the event and their equipment level, whatever it is.
I will never ever touch a game again, where AGS is involved.
If there really is that much overlap between new world and the lotr mmo, there will not be major content updates outside of the one planned for console release. Theyll cash in on console then move on to lotr and continue their focus on structural elements that transfer to other titles that they have planned.
Played 1.3k hours on sutekh and had so many good times and memories, but i think everyone eventually experienced ags dropping the ball majorly at every turn and update it felt like. Such a shame as the world and atmosphere can be so breathtaking sometimes. Cant see myself returning to this one sadly.
If they just addressed PVP that people been screaming for years for it wouldn't be dying the way it is but they have actively avoided even talking about it. At this point ill be happy if they sold to another company who can actually do something
Lord of the Rings MMO is gonna be another Scot Lane banger for sure.
there a trailer or anything yet?
Well it's gonna be made from the same devs. So I'm skeptical on how they'll handle it
Fr bro.. I was interested but I don’t wanna buy it bc they basically abandoned NW for it and didn’t update shit they are gonna do the same with LOTR and kill it by not listening to players and making changes.
Everytime I see Scot Lane in the Forget in Aeternum updates, he seems to be so fucking lost in the way they are doing things like... he doesnt know what are they doing, they dont comunicate with each other... I dunno dude, I wouldnt let him in charge of such game.
@@tango2327 you mean fumble it😂
The level 1-60 grind right after release was one of the best mmorpg experiences I’ve ever had. Post-60 had so much fun fall off. Came back for brimstone and was fun for probably a little less than a month. Because of that, I haven’t bought the new update. I’m concerned it won’t be worth it.
Needing to grind different gear to different game types is a pain in the ass
Mmorpg
@@higorchavessguild wars 2 is not like that
hopefully, this slayer code will speed up and improve AI development, new bosses in raids and expeditions
NW does not need more raids or expeditions
nw need more pvp content
Man this game could use some Single-player endgame content
lol
So true. Those MMO with a mindset that everything has to be done in group failed without an exception.
@@kwoowoo828 ah yes everquest, wow vanilla/tbc or any other old school mmorpg failed miserably. if i want to play a single player game i buy a singleplayer game.
God no
@@leafarasta4517 When I support solo play, I am not saying that I am against group play. I am supportive of group play and solo play concurrently. The problem is most MMO are either group play OR solo play. It would be better if they allow both. WHY? Because unless you live in a world where all players don't need to work and play the same game 24x7, and your friends have no lives like you and play games for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and every other players are good mannered and soft temperament that align with yours, so finding a group may be challenging some time.
And if it is difficult to find group, players will not play. And when less player play, it is even more difficult to find group. This will create a self-reinforcing cycle where less and less player will play. The only circuit break for such vicious cycle is to allow solo play when group play is not possible. Sound logical?
Implementing both solo and group play concurrently is just a matter of difficulty scaling. MMO which does not allow difficulty scaling but singularly fix the difficulty absolutely are either indicative of lazy or incompetent dev which cannot implement the more complex scaling.
IF you are not gonna cater to different players group of varying ability, mental response time, temperament, handicap, lag, and scale the difficulty according to different context and group, then you will only naturally lost those players which you don't cater to.
I think buying a demo of the game, and then realize you need to buy the rest of the game on the paid DLC is something that drives new players away, it was also what drew me away, I bought a full game, and couples months after came DLC that turned my purchase into a demo game, and I’m very sad about it cause I really enjoyed playing the game with my friends, but none of us came back after the DLC…
agree, locking the mount behind a price tag was one of the stupidest moves they've made. 30$ for a horse and 4h of content is a terrible deal.
Fantastic potential, I'll always say that the first month or so was some of the most fun I have had in an MMO. Running around with your companies in big open world PVP was class. It wasn't even the lack of end game content for me, I could've waited for that. But the gold duping bugs and the invulnerability bugs. Damn shame, game was amazing.
we need a raid! a 8-10 boss raid like every other MMO with 2-3 levels of difficulty! We need something to sink our teeth into and log in for several days of progression! I have over 10k hours in WOW and other MMOS they all have raids!
ffs we do not need more PVE content, we already have enough and we cant even find people to play it all.
What really fucking aggravates me is how they say A LOT of the player base has been asking for controller support when it is complete BS. They are preparing for console launch, we are not Fing stupid, stop lying to excuse why you make the decisions you make AGS. Say it straight up, hey the actual community that plays on a daily basis has been asking for new opr maps, cross world arenas but that is irrelevant to us and we are bringing controller support to prepare for console launch. When Scot starts any sentence with the community, I already start fuming.
@rmbfral I've never met a single player in 4000 hours since release asking for controller. I've never seen anyone in any of the big NW streamer chats ever ask for controller. AGS can't afford to do expensive features that only .01% of PC players want like controller support. They are only doing it for their benefit which is to support console and make more money off a new batch of players that will mostly be gone a year from the time they start playing.
Yes because Controller Player skipped this Game untill it's playable. Easy as it is.
I mean the entire combat system and UI is clearly made with consoles in mind. It’s the main reason i could never get into it. Extremely dumbed down combat.
What I don't get is NW has been playable with controllers for years, I have at least 2k hours in game playing with my PS4 controller. It was so easy to remap the keys the way I want and the only content I don't use the controller for is healing and the trade post.
@rmbfral Yup ever older player like me with arthritis has been begging for controller support since beginning. You don't see them asking because they closed the official forum because of toxic crybabies and most just quit playing. Some have been muddling thru with steam controller support which is barely useable. I tested on the PTR and that controller support will be a game changer for many if they decide to come back.
Problem with endgame is they let the no-lifers max out all their gear, dupe infinite coin, and get so far ahead of casual players that all end consist of is maxed out groups of players dominating all the beginner/casual players to the point where no one has ANY FUN. Not even the people winning.
NW really needs to make it much easier to attain BiS gear, remove premade groups from 3v3 and OPR, and if they can separate min/maxers from casual PVPers they would have plenty of players. But at the same time, maybe they don't want to support many servers and are fine with low population numbers. If they already have the $70 they might think providing 200 hours of content is more than worth it. Especially with how ungrateful and insulting lots of the min/maxers are, if I was a NW dev I wouldn't be working hard for those people.
THE big problem i see is all the big missions require groups of players and there are just too many who like to play solo. like now there is nothing to do while waiting for the next update.
Seems WOW caught onto this with single player dungeons update
The group finder is absolute garbage.
This
Expeditions do require groups but most of the rest of the game can be done solo. I find New World one of the most solo friendly MMOs out there.
Wow, when I saw the video, I could only agree with you on so many points. In my opinion, you could easily reignite the fire by:
Offering New World as free to play (base version, possibly up to level 50).
Releasing the game with controller support on consoles.
Providing solo dungeons as endgame activities, as well as adding the Sandworm at the current endgame level.
Introducing Cross Server 3vs3, perhaps with an additional ranking feature like many other games already offer.
In this way, with very little effort, you would have created enough incentive to bring many players back into the game, and with the accompanying "Seasons," resetting the leaderboard (similar to how it's done in League of Legends), there would be enough to do to perfect one's equipment.
Had so much fun on here 🥲
i really wish they did more with this game. i stopped playing early after the season 2 release and really dissapointed that not much has changed as far as content goes
6:17 simple answer: people get bored and wait for a new content update and go play other games that very hyped in the current season like Palworld or Helldivers 2..
What happened to Wars and that PVE Defense mode? Does people still do it?
Corrupted Invasions and Wars are still happening daily.
I have started again and played everyday from dec to feb and have never once been in an invasion or war. I dont even know what it is.
As an active war player in the “higher tier wars”. Yes , wars is still happening and invasions is something naturally there for the group of people that still enjoy it. Game is losing players every day. A lot of people are hoping that the next update will change the meta but it’s basically nothing new. NW fails to communicate with the hardcore fan base which is the War Players and Leaders from the top companies.
@@WarLogger2636 why would they want to heed ur advice? U hardcore players are the only ones that play, they need to listen to those that left cuz clearly what they are doing is catterred to hardcore players and not the rest of us casuals. I left cuz after 65 all i had to do was dungeons that got booring after 1 week and outpost rush wherw i was matched with 700 bis gear players with thousands of hours. Me as casual with 200h was not having fun but hey let dwvs listen to u cuz u are unhappy but still playing. Smart
NW is a game I enjoy the most when it's a fresh server release, then you have lots to work towards. Imo, they should create some fresh servers that reset after a set time. Maybe they should even try some HC PVE servers.
I would at least play it more often, but deffo not continously
I only have about 1300 hours in new world spread among the years it has been around, which is not a lot at all compared to some but even so its probably favorite game. even when I dont want to play it (which unfortunately is a lot of the time) I still keep up with everything that is going on holding out hope that it will pop off again. The potential the game has to be one of the best MMO's out there makes video titles like this one extremely painful and frustrating.
Big thank you for keeping up with the new world videos and trying to keep things alive.
I love this game. Having a great time.
Just came back, still love it. Its getting better and better. No game gives same combat rush in PvP.
The Problem with New World is that Amazon hired Developers that never trully played an MMO... this was clear 8 mins after starting the game for the first time... how do I open the inventory "WHILE RUNNING"... and then realise that it was impossible... checking mats for a quest u were doing... impossible on the go, u had to stop... So the reality is that they never actually played an MMO or their own MMO.. and it took them a year and a half to put this feature... Then Mounts... who da fck makes an MMO with no Mounts??? if you make no mounts, you give them gliding wings to lift you up in the air and then glide, give the players a way to move faster. That fear that the initial map is not big enough to make mounts a thing, will make you lose a giant base of players... when you have to grind and go out there to farm.. you want to go faster... Mounts even if they are a low 20% speed is something... someone said that 300k people stopped playing(at the beginning) because of having no mounts.... they could have enlarged the maps a bit and put some mounts... and mounts have been introduced so late, like 2 years too late... and only 3 types of mounts with color variations... wtf... lol
WIth that said, then we go to the slow introduction of dungeons. An MMO needs around 4 to 8 dungeons a year... because they are content... But when I was playing hard, I had to go to a new dungeon and farm the gear from that new dungeon to get the special resistances to do the upper harder levels and that killed me a bit inside everytime... players in MMO they don't want to have different sets for PVE in dmg... I am ok with the profession sets... different ones... but for dmg and dungeons, is a no no... with gems was good enough to reduce some school of magic, or fire dmg etc but they were putting more than one dmg modifier...
Then you have the ability to set up different sets of gear which they did but this arrived too late and they even put it behind a paywall... this should have been a feature from day 1 if they were planning to force us to have different profession sets and later on different PVE sets plus a PVP set etc....
Transmogs... This feature was implemented also too fcking late and they slapped a paywall on top to screw players... all MMOs have this for free as they have so much content that a paywall on transmogs is an insult. So they have implemented Paywalls and things they should have or at least not a 5k coins on some paywalls...
The problem with moving items when using portals was too expensive, and from city to city the same. This was fix in the last year or so, but it made it tediours for the original big player base to do stuff... to a point that people were forced to run from city to city to save Azoth... and with no freaking mounts... but they cheap cost implementation and no cost to from any city inventory to any other city inventory feature, came also too late... then the 500 different items limits on city or personal inventory that was stoopid also.
Bugs with items placements inside houses... and long loads and stuck in houses... that wasn't fun...
So this game has suffered from incompetent game developers that never played an mmo more than a few hours and even this/their own mmo, as a decent player could have told them all this... and yes we did... back then we did and because they never played MMOs, they never realised how this would tank their game...
A New MMOs has to have, Inventory check while running, Free Transmogs, Free management of Gear sets, Mounts from day 1 or week 1. More new dungeons every yearly. Items transport problems.
And PVP problems, which no need for me to go over this at this point lol.
Well this is my take on why the game failed and why it could have been saved if the developers actually played MMOs... at least if they were forced to play 6 months of WoW like the owner of FF14 did with his developers... maybe this Amazon developers needed a full year of playing a true MMO like WoW, so they would't kill their own game with incompetence...
Yes this game 3D quality is good and volumetric lightning effects are great.... but many armor sets are not fun, they are like old crap with a twist but too lame and no exciting for players to go after... they should have hired a South korean or japanese artist to make their armor sets... as many are lame...
Sry for the typos... :)
Thank you for the well inform update... The game looks interesting might take a look into it but doesnt look like a long time game for me
Personally i hope it goes free to play with the seasons and possibly a early access to content for premium users it could explode in popularity again, plus a bit more content like monthly quest patches it would improve the game releasing a large quest in small parts, possibly also making it possible that when new large expansions get old they become free with the new expansions purchase
Hopefully they just delete
Tbh bought it way after launch had some fun hours around 40. I just love running around and gathering etc. in games lul. When the expansion came i bought it logged in and was bugged under the map then logged out insta and just uninstalled.
mannnnn since realm royale baggins has seen soo many worlds die. it's a curse to be such a legend OG!
Great content as always!
I think the only realistic (and imo probably effective) solution would be to go the GW2 route - have the base game as a f2p demo sorta thing (it's even similar in that you don't get the mount and certain classes/weapons without expansions and such), and if players who wanna see what it's all about, but consider the price to be too steep for merely wetting their toes, decide to keep playing - have them buy the expansions. Hell, even an expansion bundle could be offered, although that's something corporate would 100% shut down, since they even went back on the base game+expansions $10 off offer
I stopped playing when I realized that I can't farm Orichalcum, that I have to go all out with all the bots for it, and when I ended up looking for parties for dungeons, where I found out that you can't play what you want, you need a certain speck and certain items to be taken in the party.
I tried to get back to NW with the latest expansion, but looking at the world map with 10000 things going on, and no clue what to do, i quit again.
Damn, the first month of new world was great. Sad.
Well made video and fair takes.
I wish there was 100% random world boss spawns that you could call out in chat that required communication. There’s so much potential for the game.
You are getting somewhere..
I quit because I didn't want to pay for mounts, in fact if I had known from the start this is how it was going to be I would of saved my money.
My god, baggins from the culling!!!! Glad you’re doin so well! We fought many times in that buggy game!!!
March 25 2024 current player is 7,921 in game as of 9pm Asia time
I dunno. The player base in new world seems to be split into two categories.
Players with thousands of hours who are max geared and those who have a few hundred hours or less..
The maxed out players are bored, and the min hours are tired of getting stomped.
Controller is a huge accessibility tool. It's very important for games have controller options as 25% of gamers use accessibility settings or tools. They should have implemented it a long time ago.
Funny. There are two games on the market running on modified Lumberyard. Both looks amazing, both have pretty slow and very rocky feed of new content that often gets soemhow borked.
used to play a lot but my pc cant run the game anymore and i cant upgrade atm. so i was forced to quit sad to see this happening
i was a beta/early game player and stopped around 2 months after the games release but just made a return and have been enjoying it, hopefully they release some sort of content in the future that will help revive the game. Sad to see it in its current state.
I've been dying to get back into it. Just waiting for the controller support. Hope to see it added to Amazon Luna in the future as well. I think it would be a win for Luna and New World if they did.
I dont see how a studio, even one being back by amazon, can work on two mmos simultaneously without starving either one of content for a long period of time
NW will always have a special place in my heart but what the devs did to their game (or rather didnt) is condemnable
I've quit twice once right after Brim and again recently after the dlc (paid) I just don't see the future in general and the slow drip/delays of content has 90% to do with it. The game had good bones but imo an inexperienced team versus the hype and NEED for a top teir mmo
Nice seeing u, hope well. The thought of it being like a rust, valheim, tribes of midgard type game would seem it would be alot of fun. Why not try that out. everything is there for it. would allow for more replayability than assuming an MMO without the endgame needed it seems from what people say. well wishes
my problem is the level cap i can't afford the expansion so it makes it hard as a solo to fight level 65 mobs to finish my quest
I was kind of a new player. I started a few months before angry earth. Reason I stopped playing was after playing the story was because I couldn't find anyone to play the hard dungeons or raids with. And most ppl that were playing wouldn't want to play with me because I didn't have the gear I needed for the harder content. But I couldn't get the better gear because no one would play with me in those areas.
Feels like neworld is the warmup/ beta for the lord of the rings mmo
'Devoid of any love' is accurate and exactly how i feel about the game, I want to keep playing it like I have a soft spot for the game theres lots about it which i love but I just dont get enough back from it. Feels like a one sided relationship where youre putting everything in and not getting back. A new OPR map like 12 months ago wouldve been good and wouldve made a difference and surely wouldnt have been that much to ask, but instead more 'content' whilst old bugs persist. I hope it pulls through but dont know if it will.
I used to play during launch. Was thinking about playing again, can someone tell me...have they added any new weapons after the void gauntlet?
It was the original LotR MMO that AGS was working on that was later cancelled that got me interested in New World.
From day 1 of NW I have always hoped it would make the LotR MMO a better game. If we take the things NW got right and apply them to LotR then that game will already have an amazing start. Story in NW has always been lacking and they won't have to come up with a foundational story for LotR because it already has a rich history. I still love NW but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the LotR MMO teasers and eventually playing it someday!
Wake me up when they do something to end game but i'm glad to see they still hold on to their principles on delaying seasons.
Leveling in NW was the best thing I've ever experienced in any game. I think they made a mistake with halving the time for lvling with Brimstone release.
They didn't really do a good job with the random queue though, because you don't queue up with every server only the servers in your region. So if you play on a populated region like NA you won't have too much trouble (it still takes a bit, but you will eventually find one). If you play in low pop regions like Asia Pacific, it can take upwards of an hour to find a dungeon if it even pops at all.
They should have made them actually cross server rather that what they've done because it's clearly not a feature that helps everyone.
i've played about 500 hours of Operation Metro in Battlefield 4 it was fun. But it is hard to play OPR bcs of disbalance of respawns. And iam playing only 3 months. People playing it for years...