There is no good or evil. Just circumstance and perception. Many of the chaotic and psychotic characters that resonate with us as anti heroes do so because deep down we all have the potential to go down a dark path if the situation dictates.
“We all have the potential to go down dark paths IF THE SITUATION DICTATES” that’s some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life. All just to avoid realizing all humans have a conscience and choices, yes we’re capable of both right and wrong, those who pretend morals don’t exist are just ignoring their own being. Good luck with that theory.
@@r3b3lvegan89 So judgemental brother. How's that working out for you? being on that high horse I mean. I don't need luck from you, I'm doing fine. Thank you. Maybe one day you'll wake up to human nature.
When a hurricane happens here in Florida I get a little bit happy I get to spend time worrying about something and preparing and just riding out the storm is kind of fun
"We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off." - Tyler Durden
I'm 22 years old, I've always lived in a state of comfort by living with my mother and never being completely responsible for myself. I dropped out of College and lived almost 2 years not doing anything besides staying at home and playing video games at my mother's house. As a result I got depressed. I had no sense of purpose, freedom or achievement. I was wasting my life. I even lost all sense of time. I was always aware of all of this and that was the worst part. I had to do something radical. I've never lived by myself but I got the opportunity for a good job in another country so I took it. I took the job and moved out for the first time living in a non Spanish country. I figured I was never gonna step up while I had my mother to always push my back into doing the things I had to do. Now I don't have any family members close to me to help me figure things out, I gotta do everything on my own. Because of that, this is the happiest I've been in a long time. I feel free. I'm forcing myself to do the things I always avoided to do. I'm getting out of all of my comfort zones. In a way, this is the Chaos I choosed to destroy all of what I was and become what I want to be.
@@EricHrahsel You are capable man. Sometimes we gotta put ourselves in a situation where we eliminate the easy choice and we have no choice but to survive in order to find truth. It's like a saying "people when they're either gonna die or succeed tend to succeed". At some point in your life you gotta let go of the log and swim towards the island. I was on a very nihilistic state. Everything was pointless. Nothing was worth the effort and I couldn't care less about living or dying. I wasn't suicidal but I was craving death-- sleep forever. At some point I realized despite all being insignificant, I couldn't deny that there's something that gives us meaning, and that's having a sense of achievement and being fully present. I'm not taking about material things or prestige, I'm talking about self-discipline. I'm talking about the feeling of choosing what you want to be and not let it be a result of your circumstances. There's a sense of freedom on that. Take responsibility of your life. Take responsibility of your health and your body. Go to the gym, eat well and meditate. Everything you do, no matter how insignificant, you put your everything on it. Be present and discipline and happiness will be an unavoidable result.
I went throught the exact same thing at 21 and regretabbly at 23. Foolish me backtracking. But through my journey I have become more wise and powerful than I would have ever thougt and through it will arise as a hero May god shine light on your journey as you also will become a hero and create a world for those lost and damned
I was depressed for a long time cause of love, I ended up in a bad place and apaty, I lost all my motivation and will, ended up without any purpose or reason in life, but now I'm in the same place as you, in a different country, working for the first time in my life, for a well payed job and I've never been more happier, I finally got rid of my depression, having a purpose, and making money can be a beautiful thing. I honestly regret being lost for so many years, I could've been so much further... You never know how small your life used to be until you travel, sounds cliche but it's truly mind-blowing experience and self reflecting.
Hence why zombie/apocalypse movies and shows were so popular for a while. Everyone wants to know what happens when society breaks down. What's left? We're almost curious as to how even ourselves will act when it happens. Will we become heroes? Or die cowards? Who knows?
You get lots of memes about how gamers will be ready for the zombie apocalypse. And theres a fantasy that you will be the leader of a group or heroic or finally will make something of yourself if you are a disinfranchised individual. But the ironic reality is that alot of gamers will be the worst equipped to deal with a breakdown in society and will further be at the mercy of jocks and bullies.
Well, it's all in the history books. It's a loop that has been going on forever and we didn't change. We're still the same people, only better armed each time.
Id argue that chaos is not a bad thing as long as its directed to creating something new. If chaos had a form id imagine it to be fluid, malleable, and distilled to its finest form of matter..because from this something new and durable can be created like a meaningful creative life. It's a painful process of transformation, but after passing through the dark tunnel of chaos comes the light of a new life.
@@kingwinter2024 yes. This movie inspired my lifestyle in large part, I got rid of all my belongings besides a single backpack, no more bills besides cell phone. I've never been more free. I can work for a few weeks and pocket a few grand and then hit the road, wander and explore canada and enjoy what I love doing most, being in nature and bushcraft / exploring. Escaped the rat trap years ago.
@@felipedezwaan596 It depends, if I find an area I like I might stick around for a few months but usually I do a few weeks and move on. I'm able to save and invest a considerable amount considering I only pay about 45$ a month in bills (phone) and a little for food.
I don’t thing Walter wanted to survive... but more like leave a mark before he dies. He always was fascinated with wealth and power, put he never got it. So by the time he knew he was gonna die instead of thinking of what to do, he knew what to do.
So he was always waiting for his death. That was always his goal, death. So that way a liked the end so much. Because he got what he was waiting so much. But he died by his own terms. His own bullet.
This is the most apparent in season 2 when he finds out that he is in remission. In front of his family he acts happy and relieved but when he goes to the bathroom he starts beating the shit out of a towel dispenser out of frustration. He hates the idea of having to return to normalcy.
So just as Joker said, "All it takes is one bad day, to reduce sanest man alive to, that is how far away the world is from where I am. Just. One. Bad. Day."
That's because no one is actually sane. No domesticated animal, born and bred in captivity, living in an artificial environment, enslaved to a capitalist, corporate totalitarian system, is sane.
Exactly. Imagine one day, waking up to realise that you've spent 20 years paying your mortgage off. Now you can enjoy it till you die and it's sold to another sucker, for another 20 years of their life.
unfortunately, a stable life with no prospect is most of our lives ... and what most of us are working towards, whether it be through trades, military, or university / college. ESPECIALLY university / college. it's probably the least adventurous one and it sucks the absolute life from you, as it is now doing to me. i'm almost wishing for some kind of societal upheaval or whatnot soon since ik i'll just become a 9-5 wage slave when my degree is done.
All y'all don't know what real chaos is then in my opinion...... haha, once yer in the thic of it , .... you'll be 🙏 begging God for the stability u all got now haha trust me......
"If we're unable to change ourselves through discipline of changing our own actions. It becomes tempting to wish for chaos to force us to change." God damn WOW!!!
I love dark stories with broken characters who suffer thru a chaotic tragedy, going under a brilliant character development where you can't decide whether you wanna agree or disagree with their actions and choices. Or be able to predict what they may actually do next. It should never be black and white but always open for interpretation. Let the viewer decide how they would truly react in such given situations, whether how their choices are justified honestly in their own way.
The dread that you describe is 'the call of the void', after the French 'l'appel du vide' which describes this impulse to 'give in' to falling from a height, a feeling of being drawn to, if not over, an edge where one is unsafe for reasons other than suicidal ideation.
"How much can you know yourself if you've never been in a fight?" Is such a fucking powerful mantra, it really unravels what's lurking beneath your persona and ego.
Chaos does sound very appealing. The idea that we could stop worrying about consequences and what’s supposed to be normal for men. To let that fade away and only focus on what’s important for each one of us without having to be concerned with societal norms and standards. To do what we want and to do what we feel is right without concerning ourselves of any consequences
I'm in Iran and i cant wait for a collapse. i have to live so carefully that i have not lived at all! a month ago there was riots and i was smiling and decided to see Joker, wanted to dance like he did
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Why dont you just post video footage and not talk. This way you cant get in trouble. You just give us what we the viewers want, which is to see what it was like to be apart of a protest.
The difference between Joker and Fight Club is that Fight Club addresses the ennui and shallowness of the comfortable middle class America, while Joker addresses the people near the bottom. While I don't envy the mindless and empty conformity of the fight club people, I still find it hard to relate to them or understand their plight, seems like they have plenty of options. Despite the brutality, I find it easier to understand and emphasize with (the 2019) Joker.
So middle class people are all mindless conformists while lower class people are all anti-establishment rebels? Ennui and vacuity aren't things that are unique to a certain class of people; they aren't products of a too comfortable lifestyle or wage earnings. Rather, the empty feeling that many people have in their lives is because they have no emotional or spiritual fulfilment.
You realise it’s not the status in society but what the status in society represents, if a middle class man can feel purposeless and numbed to society the same way a lower class man does, then what does it say about our society as a whole.
I think this concept is epitomized best when the Joker is talking to that guy in the interrogation room in The Dark Knight. "Would you like to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You can't savor all the little . . . emotions. You see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are." I think it really does take some soul-shattering, foundation-rocking event for people to fully realize who they actually are deep down. A similar sentiment can be found in Stephen Crane's novel The Red Badge of Courage. "He felt that in this crisis his laws of life were useless. Whatever he had learned of himself was here of no avail. He was an unknown quantity. He saw that he would again be obliged to experiment as he had in early youth. He must accumulate information of himself, and meanwhile he resolved to remain close upon his guard lest those qualities of which he knew nothing should everlastingly disgrace him."
It is not enough for a man to just think outside the box, a man must be bold enough to live outside it. I walk this road of chaos. I had the "good" job, a property, money, lifestyle all that. It was all empty. It's modern slavery and suppression of the soul. I spent all my days obsessed with distracting myself from my own existence, rooting for everyone else but myself, consuming, consuming, consuming, and getting fat and unhappy each year closer to 40. On my breaks in my coffin-like cubicle, I would stare at the blank screens and imagine I was in a forest, on a beach, on a mountain, anywhere but in that sterile, neutral place. I had a void inside, like a black hole, that was yawning more and more as the days passed, demanding I do.... something. But what?! I was offered a management position at the bank I worked, and I quit. I didn't know exactly what I was doing. Everyone asked- What are you going to do now? Where are you going to go? They thought I had a better job offer elsewhere. I didn't. I was going to leave all that behind me forever, to hell with the consequences. I drove into the desert for a few days, looking for a sign. I saw a Native American doing a walkabout on a road to nowhere, and I felt like I was looking at myself. I returned and decided I was going to find what I love to do and just do it. People thought I was crazy, lost my mind. Days turned to months. I sought out jobs I thought I'd like, and I'd quit those jobs within days, months of starting them. They were not the answer. Jobs were not the answer. I began getting short on income, my mortgage was due, bills due. People told me, I could still save myself. Go back to the banks. They love you there. Naw, let it all burn. I didn't have my answer yet. I was scared to death, but I kept firm in my resolve. I was going to find this answer inside. My property went into foreclosure, bills began to hunt me, and I began selling everything I own for money. A lot of people had already let me go. He's crazy. He's throwing away his life. He's the smart guy that went to that great university. What went wrong? He should have found a woman, had a family, settled down. I didn't need to settle down. I was settled enough. I needed to freaken live! I slept on couches, got kicked out of peoples homes that tried to help me. I stopped working "jobs". I didn't drink or do any drugs whatsoever, legal or otherwise. I was scared to death, but not depressed. I had an aunt who said- You're on a spiritual quest. I think she was right. It was a search for self. I remember standing on a beach alone on my 40th birthday. I had just spent all my remaining money, except 50$, on the motel I was staying at. My property- foreclosed, my bills- all delinquent, I was staying here and there, wherever. I had nothing anymore except my 20 year old car, clothes, and some personal items. I had never been so "low". It was liberating. I stood on that beach, and I said to myself- I have nothing anymore. I can do anything. How would I live my life, if I lived a life without fear? If I could do ANYTHING? I made a decision on that beach and went with it. I began working on a craft I'd always been interested in but had no proficiency at. I spent days, weeks, sometimes not speaking with anyone, just working, working, working. I worked in solitude much of the time. I found a way to make it work. I stayed with my mom sometimes, a friend of mine who is now a Buddhist monk, and a cousin of mine. I just did what I had to do, so I could continue to work my craft, hone my skills. Picked up day jobs here and there, just did what I had to. I found what I was looking for. I found what made me feel alive in the world of the undead. The only problem is, I wasn't proficient at it. I devoted my time 100% to this labor to the exclusion of all other things. The years passed. The few remaining people in my life began to waver. I was starting to make a little money at what I was doing finally, but then the floor fell out. I was nearly homeless. There was a countdown to days until I was walking the streets. So, I played monkey-bars and found work on the fly. The job sucked. I did it for six months. I used it to monkey-bar over to another job that I like. All the while, I'm still pursuing my passion on the side. Now, 6 years later, I rent a room in a house in the forest on the side of a cold mountain. I sleep on the floor. I have next to nothing. Friends and family members have almost to a person abandoned me, given up hope. He's lost. He's crazy. Threw away his life. I tried to help him. He doesn't want help. These people live empty lives. They are the undead. I found what I love, and I'm doing it. Maybe some day, my proficiency will grow to the point that I gain some measure of income, enough to live exclusively doing it. For now, I work a part time job where I take care of parks on the mountain. I don't talk to anyone. I keep to myself. I root 100% for myself now. I live my own Super Bowl, World Series, World Cup. I've found dedication, faith, love of my self, and my passion. I'm true to myself in a world that hates me for it. I will not give up, even if it means my inevitable homelessness/death. Everyone else in my life might look down at me as a failure, and they do. I had so much and walked away from it all, destroyed the house of cards I had built. But, deep down in my soul, my heart sings when I lose myself in my craft. When I die, I'll know I gave it my all to do what I love, no sacrifice withheld. Money, people, things, all nouns, sacrificed. Society seeks to enslave and bedazzle the modern man with empty illusions. Walk away. Seek solitude, find yourself, and leave it all behind. You'll find whats more important than all the riches the world has to offer and you'll find a courage, fortitude, and faith inside that was always absent. Your soul will sing to you too, and you will not be alone though everyone leaves you.
@@jeremiahdurian-williams2732 - I'd prefer to remain anonymous. Perhaps others have these same questions. You can ask them here, and I'll try and answer them. A lot of the stuff I've lived is stuff you just have to walk through yourself in order to truly understand. It's just the way it is with this kind of stuff. As long as the questions don't get too personal, I'll be happy to answer them in the best way I can.
I scrolled and I was like I’m not actually about to read this while thing. Well I did and I’m glad I did. I feel like I just watched/read a book/movie and I feel somewhat inspired though that will wane very quickly. Cool to read tho I rlly want to know what the craft is now 😂
@@mauve9266 - The craft for me is important. It's everything to me. For everyone else though, it doesn't really matter WHAT it is. When I started my journey down this path, I had so many who turned on me, mocked me in some cases, that I decided I wouldn't discuss it with anyone anymore in specific terms. Most of the time I talked about what I was doing, it was met with derision, rolling of eyes, and "what do you know about that?" People in the world, living by society rules and their own self-imposed limitations, inwardly despise people like me. It's like a natural reaction. How could I have found an answer they missed? Why do I think I'm so special? You're not making money at it, then becomes, you're not making enough. My "craft" is now between me and my soul. Although it's promoted that one should be transparent, especially a man, in this day and age and divulge everything to others. I wholly disagree. There are things that are sacred to yourself, to your own soul, that shouldn't be shared. These things are like seeds of hope that require nourishment and protection, build high walls around them, and whatever you do, don't let other people trample them. I do not think you'd do such a thing, but my 'craft' is just for me. I hope you find something in your own life so special, so sacred to just you, that you'd seek to keep it so protected.
When one door closes, another one opens. Remember that. Also, change happens; when preparation meets opportunity. So work on yourself, make yourself prepared, because when the time comes; you want to be ready.
A man that needs conflict to feel masculine is both shallow and immature. Pick up some dumbbells, go help someone in need with your own two hands, teach a child a skill, maintain your home, have respect for women. These are only a handful of ways any man can feel masculine.
I decided 2020 had to be the year I changed it all. I have to face my fear. I hate this world and the way it world works. I want to change that but I had to change myself first. I'll be 2yrs sober in March and I've done a lot but I'm so scared.
I have been trying to figure out why I sometimes get the thought 'why can't a family member just die' or 'Why can't this car just drive into me', and now I know what it is. I have a really good life, and it disturbed me to have those thoughts, so having a name for it is relieving. Thank you very much ❤️
ahh this video explained so many of my self-destructive/masochistic habits. Takes a toll on the body though, it can work in the short-term but you need discipline to pull you through.
In 2018, I experienced several months of absolute psychosis. I lived in the chaos of my delusions. I've since recovered. During those months, I wrecked every relationship I ever had. It was terrifying. But recovery has come with a overwhelming sense of loss. I still have some ideas of reference, I feel as if these movies are stolen from my mind.
Me too bro. Now I’m recovering and it hurts. I’m giving myself a whole year to recover. All the battles got the best of me and I’m trying to stop the depression
The true power comes from controlling owerselves and not let us fall in to chaos for personal gloryfication persuing simplicity. That is power, chaos is just a coward rout and does not bring freedom as one think, at all. No matter how many pseudo cool characters one might invento to push such idea.
Yo this was fucking amazing and inspirational , love these essays, they're so powerful and courageous in exploring such perceptions. i Think i needed to watch this more than i realize. This is my favorite video since How an Artist Turns Pro, i was super excited for Dark Knight Rises but now anything from you is going to be overwhelming. also thank you so much for the detailed description, those instrumentals were the best x _ x godspeed and good luck on future projects and current affairs thank you for making this video
I think the reason why people enjoy chaotic characters is because a small part in our mind actually agrees with what they are doing knowing it’s morally wrong. We enjoy these characters because they are living their lives without fear, without having to worry about others opinions, traits people lack to unlock their live true self. We become almost attracted to these characters and try to embody their looks, and personas, charisma, but back out due to the voice in our heads thinking “your not good enough”. I guess that’s why people enjoy chaotic/nihilistic characters.
Imagine waking up and realising that you're going to be homeless and broke, if you don't start preparing for your retirement (If you live long enough) at say 20 years old. Realise that you're taking part in a game that requires you to work and consume debt, all for the sakes of taking part in the game. Being on a team. It's safe, easy and you'll not have to worry about much else than the rules we set as players (Society). Oh wait, you don't need to imagine. You're living it.
I think many people who are at the bottom of their lives or society feel that chaos and major events in society feels liberating. We are in a very structured world where being that good student or worker doesn't take us anywhere (at least the majority of people). At times, chaos feels like it's the only time everyone is equal for that moment.
"To most people, the world looks like its falling apart into pieces. But to guys like us, its falling together right where it should have been all along. The world was only one or two steps away from chaos. We stood by....waiting for it like a storm on the horizon, coming to cleanse us all."
Excellent video and thought-provoking topics, much appreciation for you efforts and dedication. "Some men just want to watch the world burn." I can see an increasing number of people that have adopted this 'philosophy', and on closer inspection they are always weak, lazy cynics that are trying to externalize their own short-comings and drag society down into their pathetic malaise. And when put to the test they will be the first ones to betray not only themselves but the 'ideals' they supposedly hold. You cannot reason with unreasonable people.
Being trapped in a stagnant of routines and schedules while fully aware of its influence in your life aren't freedom. Freedom in today's world is one of the greatest lies ever told.
Im compelled to think that Lucasfilm could have taken this approach....A trilogy soley from the eyes of the antagonist "Kylo Ren" focusing on how he struggles with both external & internal chaos!!!
I'm of the opinion that Walter White always had the Heisenberg persona repressed deep inside of him waiting for a chance to get out. For him, the chaos and disaster that he found himself thrust into was that chance. In essence, his arc boils down to the manifestation of his true self and the consequences it has for him and those around him.
I don't think he always had the persona, instead, I think the persona was a sort of extreme reactionary response to himself living a life much below his potential. It was the prolonged comfort and lack of fulfillment that drove him to become Heisenberg. If he did something more with his life than just being a high-school teacher, he wouldn't feel the need to become Heisenberg.
Upbringing, social class, education, environment, trauma, genes, those all play a part in how one turns out after said events. Some people use chaos to turn good while others use it to turn evil. Just like a person embracing comfort & stability can also turn good or evil. Some people become rich & then destroy the people within their system of comfort & stability. Others use that comfort & stability to help others & donate to charity. There’s good & evil in every group.
@@chillysea1 Yes of course, we are all driven by influence. I don’t believe in free will because free will implies nothing influences my decisions. Everything influences my decisions. We don’t make decisions just because. We don’t author our own lives. Otherwise that’s wish fulfillment.
I embrace the chaotic random absurdity that is existence. Absurdity is the middle ground between existentialism and nihilism, neither heroic nor villainous. We cannot exist without meaning, but we are incapable of determining what that meaning is.
@Michael Davis drugs, bitches, partys, blow your money on shiny new shit and enjoy the short ride I took off 20 kgs off my back after starting to not give a fuck about what’s “moral” and what’s not
I lived that life for years.. almost got killed and arrested many times! I seriously miss it. Travelling the world, bandit life. Was an adventure. I have a beautiful child now, so those days are over. But they shaped me and prepared me for anything. No matter how bad things get, I’ll fight and adapt like no other. Growth isn’t found in the crowd, it’s found in the arena, doing battle. Bravo 👏
I never had cable tv growing up cause we couldnt afford it but i also just found it boring. But that made me a movie nerd. Movies like joker, fight club, and taxi driver really hit me. I like to see the villains point of view
One of the best video i watched so far in my life, i was wondering "why these 3 caracters end up similarly and why a big amount of people in the society "loved" this antiheros?", in fact my favourite movie is fight club and me and some people resonate with this characters in many ways. Adding to this, i concluded one more thing: these 3 characters (and similarly with elliot alderson from the serial "mr robot") have the nice guy syndrome explained in the book "no more mr nice guy" of robert glover, they all have this issue before his internal destruction. Keep the good work bro!
The saddest part is that Walter already had what most people want, a loving spouse, children, nice home, well educated, good career, a good supportive family.
After reading The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and The Picture of Dorian Gray, these could well be the precursors to movies like Joker, Fight Club, American Psycho, etc.
Sorry, only made it halfway through but this feels like over intellectualised crap. You haven't defined the terms you're working with and the background cello music makes me want to punch someone in the teeth. Walter White isn't a hero who finds freedom in anarchy, he's a dying man who finds a way to stay a step ahead of the reaper by doing the opposite of what he should.Breaking Bad is a morality tale about not choosing to destroy those you love even if you're dying not glamourising selling drugs to raise cash however appealing it may be. I should know since I came up with it.
This is a good video and all, but just a small clarification for anyone watching: *Fight club and Breaking bad are far much better than joker and they are not in the same when it comes to portraying mental issues.*
@@shakey3306 Maybe the books author didn't intend it. The men in Fight Club are lost because they don't focus on family and civilization. That is the real message. A powerful scene is the man that takes off his wedding ring to fight. Sure, to try to avoid a serious physical injury. The deeper meaning was he was being unfaithful to his wife in his actions.
This was a really good video but i think lachesism is more so just you surviving a disaster and through it growing as a character, a blank slate, someone better, harder than before. Not necessarily have the disaster break society and the big chaos aspect you covered.
Chuck Palahnuick the author of Fight Club has a great bit about the term transgressive literature. Some of the concept being that ones internal existensial or emotional struggle is in some stories outwarded in strong fashion with "change" and chaos. And reward. I also was reminded about the term Apocalypse(now) to built something brand new out of destruction wich is rarely a good idea or stance. Thanks for the video essay.
If we don't create our own suffering, our own brains will. It might sound bleak, but this is really how humans work. There is no such thing as a "quiet life". Focus on having a hard, but rewarding one instead.
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Thank you one of the best videos I have seen in 2023
Fight club : 20 years have passed and we are still dissecting the hell out of this movie. Thats the sign of a masterpiece.
The book deserves credit too though. Made in mid90s and laid down a lot of the movies themes we discuss like you said
I'd suggest reading the book too. The Tyler in the book is very different to the one in the movie.
@@jeramysteve3394 honestly the book is complete shit comparing to movie
And breaking the first rule of fightclub
Fight club still keeps surprising.
There is no good or evil. Just circumstance and perception. Many of the chaotic and psychotic characters that resonate with us as anti heroes do so because deep down we all have the potential to go down a dark path if the situation dictates.
Nicely put.
“We all have the potential to go down dark paths IF THE SITUATION DICTATES” that’s some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life. All just to avoid realizing all humans have a conscience and choices, yes we’re capable of both right and wrong, those who pretend morals don’t exist are just ignoring their own being. Good luck with that theory.
@@r3b3lvegan89 So judgemental brother. How's that working out for you? being on that high horse I mean. I don't need luck from you, I'm doing fine. Thank you. Maybe one day you'll wake up to human nature.
Once you realize how shit the world and people actually are and you start thinking, you will realize hes spot on
When a hurricane happens here in Florida I get a little bit happy I get to spend time worrying about something and preparing and just riding out the storm is kind of fun
Lol breaking bad , joker , fight club lmfao i love all these things
5:09 violins make villains more badass
In 2022 I feel this!
Trust me, everything is going to be fine..
Dam Great Characters
"We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off." - Tyler Durden
Played by movie god Brad Pitt
not everyone will but some will
@@alfa01spotivo very few.
Just believe and fight the rest will follow
Christian Torres talking to Jared bloody Leto
I'm 22 years old, I've always lived in a state of comfort by living with my mother and never being completely responsible for myself. I dropped out of College and lived almost 2 years not doing anything besides staying at home and playing video games at my mother's house. As a result I got depressed. I had no sense of purpose, freedom or achievement. I was wasting my life. I even lost all sense of time.
I was always aware of all of this and that was the worst part.
I had to do something radical.
I've never lived by myself but I got the opportunity for a good job in another country so I took it. I took the job and moved out for the first time living in a non Spanish country.
I figured I was never gonna step up while I had my mother to always push my back into doing the things I had to do. Now I don't have any family members close to me to help me figure things out, I gotta do everything on my own.
Because of that, this is the happiest I've been in a long time. I feel free. I'm forcing myself to do the things I always avoided to do. I'm getting out of all of my comfort zones.
In a way, this is the Chaos I choosed to destroy all of what I was and become what I want to be.
Well said, and good for you
Thank you. I am in the same boat. Except that i am still with my mom
@@EricHrahsel You are capable man.
Sometimes we gotta put ourselves in a situation where we eliminate the easy choice and we have no choice but to survive in order to find truth.
It's like a saying "people when they're either gonna die or succeed tend to succeed".
At some point in your life you gotta let go of the log and swim towards the island.
I was on a very nihilistic state. Everything was pointless. Nothing was worth the effort and I couldn't care less about living or dying. I wasn't suicidal but I was craving death-- sleep forever.
At some point I realized despite all being insignificant, I couldn't deny that there's something that gives us meaning, and that's having a sense of achievement and being fully present.
I'm not taking about material things or prestige, I'm talking about self-discipline. I'm talking about the feeling of choosing what you want to be and not let it be a result of your circumstances. There's a sense of freedom on that.
Take responsibility of your life. Take responsibility of your health and your body. Go to the gym, eat well and meditate. Everything you do, no matter how insignificant, you put your everything on it.
Be present and discipline and happiness will be an unavoidable result.
I went throught the exact same thing at 21 and regretabbly at 23. Foolish me backtracking. But through my journey I have become more wise and powerful than I would have ever thougt and through it will arise as a hero
May god shine light on your journey as you also will become a hero and create a world for those lost and damned
I was depressed for a long time cause of love, I ended up in a bad place and apaty, I lost all my motivation and will, ended up without any purpose or reason in life, but now I'm in the same place as you, in a different country, working for the first time in my life, for a well payed job and I've never been more happier, I finally got rid of my depression, having a purpose, and making money can be a beautiful thing. I honestly regret being lost for so many years, I could've been so much further... You never know how small your life used to be until you travel, sounds cliche but it's truly mind-blowing experience and self reflecting.
Hence why zombie/apocalypse movies and shows were so popular for a while. Everyone wants to know what happens when society breaks down. What's left? We're almost curious as to how even ourselves will act when it happens. Will we become heroes? Or die cowards? Who knows?
More Meditations moreover, what is our enemy? The mass. The homogenous group that eats and destroys individuality.
But remember always double tap.
You get lots of memes about how gamers will be ready for the zombie apocalypse. And theres a fantasy that you will be the leader of a group or heroic or finally will make something of yourself if you are a disinfranchised individual.
But the ironic reality is that alot of gamers will be the worst equipped to deal with a breakdown in society and will further be at the mercy of jocks and bullies.
Well, it's all in the history books. It's a loop that has been going on forever and we didn't change. We're still the same people, only better armed each time.
@@Oldhandlewasabitcringe damn we really do live in a society
9:19 "chaos did create the joker but did it not also create batman?"
This quote makes me feel hopeful
Id argue that chaos is not a bad thing as long as its directed to creating something new. If chaos had a form id imagine it to be fluid, malleable, and distilled to its finest form of matter..because from this something new and durable can be created like a meaningful creative life. It's a painful process of transformation, but after passing through the dark tunnel of chaos comes the light of a new life.
Wait till you find out good and evil are subjective 💀😂.
@@danteakrophisvictor8918 Good and bad, it’s all in your head.
@@thereisnofinishline5773 nope
@@danteakrophisvictor8918 Well, if it benefits more people than it does not, then it's good. Simple as that.
“It’s not until we lose everything that we are free to do anything”
- Tyler Durden
Are you?
@@kingwinter2024 well...I agree because you have noone you know to judge you and expect you to do something
@@kingwinter2024 yes. This movie inspired my lifestyle in large part, I got rid of all my belongings besides a single backpack, no more bills besides cell phone.
I've never been more free. I can work for a few weeks and pocket a few grand and then hit the road, wander and explore canada and enjoy what I love doing most, being in nature and bushcraft / exploring.
Escaped the rat trap years ago.
@@fustercluck2460 A
Do you stay with 1 job or do you keep finding new jobs?
@@felipedezwaan596 It depends, if I find an area I like I might stick around for a few months but usually I do a few weeks and move on. I'm able to save and invest a considerable amount considering I only pay about 45$ a month in bills (phone) and a little for food.
A man with nothing to lose is the most dangerous man alive. It's only after we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything.
Mr J thanks Karen
@@leomoe433 what?
GreenZapperZ 😉😉😉
the basis on bhudism hinduism and taoism
This is what I was hoping would happen to Wilson Bethel's Bullseye in Daredevil Seasons 4 or 5 after his arc in Season 3, too bad that never happened.
Losing everything was freedom.
That's a Buddhist belief too
Absolutely.
be careful what you wish. freedom might not be quite the thing u want.
Freedoms just another word for "Nothing left to loose"
It would be worth nothing if freedom came free
Yes.
I don’t thing Walter wanted to survive... but more like leave a mark before he dies. He always was fascinated with wealth and power, put he never got it. So by the time he knew he was gonna die instead of thinking of what to do, he knew what to do.
So he was always waiting for his death. That was always his goal, death. So that way a liked the end so much. Because he got what he was waiting so much. But he died by his own terms. His own bullet.
This is the most apparent in season 2 when he finds out that he is in remission. In front of his family he acts happy and relieved but when he goes to the bathroom he starts beating the shit out of a towel dispenser out of frustration. He hates the idea of having to return to normalcy.
@@Stezika15 Yeah that makes sense I never thought of it that way but maybe its because he regret his actions and know he can't come back from this now
So just as Joker said, "All it takes is one bad day, to reduce sanest man alive to, that is how far away the world is from where I am.
Just. One. Bad. Day."
THE KILLING JOKE
Punisher said the same thing to Daredevil...
That's because no one is actually sane. No domesticated animal, born and bred in captivity, living in an artificial environment, enslaved to a capitalist, corporate totalitarian system, is sane.
*_That thumbnail might be my favorite thumbnail ever_*
so much goodness in one tiny box
A stable life with no prospect is worse than a chaotic adventure that might leads to death
Exactly. Imagine one day, waking up to realise that you've spent 20 years paying your mortgage off. Now you can enjoy it till you die and it's sold to another sucker, for another 20 years of their life.
unfortunately, a stable life with no prospect is most of our lives ... and what most of us are working towards, whether it be through trades, military, or university / college.
ESPECIALLY university / college. it's probably the least adventurous one and it sucks the absolute life from you, as it is now doing to me. i'm almost wishing for some kind of societal upheaval or whatnot soon since ik i'll just become a 9-5 wage slave when my degree is done.
@@shreksburgers "Societal upheaval" is just one comment away in this crazy world we've created. be careful what you wish for.
Agreed
All y'all don't know what real chaos is then in my opinion...... haha, once yer in the thic of it , .... you'll be 🙏 begging God for the stability u all got now haha trust me......
Great video, bro. Well done.
"Entering chaos on our own terms" is a very profound idea.
"If we're unable to change ourselves through discipline of changing our own actions. It becomes tempting to wish for chaos to force us to change." God damn WOW!!!
Nothing seems to me more unhappy than a man to whom no adversity has ever happened.
I remember seeing a quote like this before don’t remember from who
Seneca?
Seneca 🙏🏻
My life is pure adversity and I'm still depressed. Guess that guy doesn't know what he's talking about either
I love dark stories with broken characters who suffer thru a chaotic tragedy, going under a brilliant character development where you can't decide whether you wanna agree or disagree with their actions and choices. Or be able to predict what they may actually do next. It should never be black and white but always open for interpretation. Let the viewer decide how they would truly react in such given situations, whether how their choices are justified honestly in their own way.
This is what I was hoping would happen to Wilson Bethel's Bullseye in Daredevil Seasons 4 or 5 after his arc in Season 3, too bad that never happened.
Greta point
Whoever reads this. Comment movies you know of such as the one’s explained in the main comment, below!
Do you recommend any movies?
Exactly the kind of movies I like
Vertigo isn't a fear of falling- it's the dread that comes from the certainty that you want to jump.
It is the fear of falling.
Must you complicate everything?
@@unknowninfinium4353 kierkegaard said this. And I think it is true
@@shudiptorcthinktank2939 apparently doctor Larry here said it 🙄
Exactly.
The dread that you describe is 'the call of the void', after the French 'l'appel du vide' which describes this impulse to 'give in' to falling from a height, a feeling of being drawn to, if not over, an edge where one is unsafe for reasons other than suicidal ideation.
This was amazing
Thanks man, been a big fan of your videos too
Storytellers Thank you so much:)
"How much can you know yourself if you've never been in a fight?" Is such a fucking powerful mantra, it really unravels what's lurking beneath your persona and ego.
Neo: “you’ve could’ve just asked”
Seraph: “no, you do not truly know someone, until you fight them” funny how similar fight club is to the matrix.
@@r3b3lvegan89they also came the same year.
Chaos does sound very appealing. The idea that we could stop worrying about consequences and what’s supposed to be normal for men. To let that fade away and only focus on what’s important for each one of us without having to be concerned with societal norms and standards. To do what we want and to do what we feel is right without concerning ourselves of any consequences
In a twisted way it sort of sounds like a dream
Ayo without a doubt it sounds like a dream
Anarchism
@@Masked_SVincent yes :)
Sounds cool and all but you basically just described somalia. Have fun moving there
"society only needs a tiny push to fall apart" the world rn lol
It's always been that way.. once we age enough to where our brain matures.. you know the saying.
Lol that’s bullshit. Good one
Can’t imagine that’s what eventually happens when greedy central bankers own over 50% of the planet while billions starve and what not in poverty.
I'm in Iran and i cant wait for a collapse. i have to live so carefully that i have not lived at all!
a month ago there was riots and i was smiling and decided to see Joker, wanted to dance like he did
Homie, chill... Don't shoot up or kill anyone/place.
@@dionysus3774 Y would he do that?!
Yato_ Pickle as it weird as it sounds, I want the same chaos everywhere
Gottz be brutally honest. When doors are closed I been dancing like that for years
You're getting a glimpse of the future. It's no different in the U.S. Not in a physical way but mentally.
Thank you for watching! Links to Now You See It, Academy of Ideas and Dictionary of Obscure sorrows video in the description above. Regarding the Hong Kong video, I want to make it so bad but there are both stories about protesters dissapearing to mainland China and radical protesters (small core of radicals) attacking people who are against the protest. I was just a bystander as the protests happened right outside my place of stay (im in HK to be with my GF) I got nervous that even if I carefully balanced the video it could piss off the wrong people (a canadian vlogger who was critical of the protests got death threats, so I postponed making the video). But I definitely make it as soon as I feel comfortable doing so. That being said, Go to NordVPN.com/storytellers or use a coupon STORYTELLERS for a special holiday deal. Get a 3-year plan with 81% off plus two amazing gifts: 4 extra months + NordPass password manager app
Isn't the vlogger that got death threat is pretending to be a journalist while commenting the situation without knowing any Cantonese?
Are you saying lepasisom, I'm asking because I'm looking for the definition of the word
@@freddyacevedo4915 lachesism
Why dont you just post video footage and not talk. This way you cant get in trouble. You just give us what we the viewers want, which is to see what it was like to be apart of a protest.
It is actually funny. This year I wrote a paper on the importance of Boredom and the way it can be used to change your life.
Here to leave love. Have a great day everybody.
What are you doin up there
@@chaosdweller He's spinning.
@@dionysus3774 oh ok
The difference between Joker and Fight Club is that Fight Club addresses the ennui and shallowness of the comfortable middle class America, while Joker addresses the people near the bottom. While I don't envy the mindless and empty conformity of the fight club people, I still find it hard to relate to them or understand their plight, seems like they have plenty of options. Despite the brutality, I find it easier to understand and emphasize with (the 2019) Joker.
So middle class people are all mindless conformists while lower class people are all anti-establishment rebels? Ennui and vacuity aren't things that are unique to a certain class of people; they aren't products of a too comfortable lifestyle or wage earnings. Rather, the empty feeling that many people have in their lives is because they have no emotional or spiritual fulfilment.
@@TH3F4LC0Nx The poor have neither a comfortable lifestyle nor good wages.
What about Breaking Bad?
I on the other hand relate to fight club
You realise it’s not the status in society but what the status in society represents, if a middle class man can feel purposeless and numbed to society the same way a lower class man does, then what does it say about our society as a whole.
I think this concept is epitomized best when the Joker is talking to that guy in the interrogation room in The Dark Knight. "Would you like to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You can't savor all the little . . . emotions. You see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are." I think it really does take some soul-shattering, foundation-rocking event for people to fully realize who they actually are deep down. A similar sentiment can be found in Stephen Crane's novel The Red Badge of Courage. "He felt that in this crisis his laws of life were useless. Whatever he had learned of himself was here of no avail. He was an unknown quantity. He saw that he would again be obliged to experiment as he had in early youth. He must accumulate information of himself, and meanwhile he resolved to remain close upon his guard lest those qualities of which he knew nothing should everlastingly disgrace him."
I’m a simple man i see heisenberg , I click
You are goddamn right.
are you able to formulate a sentence that doesnt fit a 'meme' template?
@@zhubacca no I can’t.
"The only sensible way to live in this world is without rules." -Heath Ledger's Joker, 2008.
A man who has nothing to lose is truly the free one.
It is not enough for a man to just think outside the box, a man must be bold enough to live outside it.
I walk this road of chaos. I had the "good" job, a property, money, lifestyle all that. It was all empty. It's modern slavery and suppression of the soul. I spent all my days obsessed with distracting myself from my own existence, rooting for everyone else but myself, consuming, consuming, consuming, and getting fat and unhappy each year closer to 40. On my breaks in my coffin-like cubicle, I would stare at the blank screens and imagine I was in a forest, on a beach, on a mountain, anywhere but in that sterile, neutral place. I had a void inside, like a black hole, that was yawning more and more as the days passed, demanding I do.... something. But what?! I was offered a management position at the bank I worked, and I quit.
I didn't know exactly what I was doing. Everyone asked- What are you going to do now? Where are you going to go?
They thought I had a better job offer elsewhere. I didn't. I was going to leave all that behind me forever, to hell with the consequences.
I drove into the desert for a few days, looking for a sign. I saw a Native American doing a walkabout on a road to nowhere, and I felt like I was looking at myself. I returned and decided I was going to find what I love to do and just do it.
People thought I was crazy, lost my mind.
Days turned to months. I sought out jobs I thought I'd like, and I'd quit those jobs within days, months of starting them. They were not the answer. Jobs were not the answer. I began getting short on income, my mortgage was due, bills due. People told me, I could still save myself. Go back to the banks. They love you there. Naw, let it all burn. I didn't have my answer yet.
I was scared to death, but I kept firm in my resolve. I was going to find this answer inside. My property went into foreclosure, bills began to hunt me, and I began selling everything I own for money. A lot of people had already let me go. He's crazy. He's throwing away his life. He's the smart guy that went to that great university. What went wrong? He should have found a woman, had a family, settled down.
I didn't need to settle down. I was settled enough. I needed to freaken live!
I slept on couches, got kicked out of peoples homes that tried to help me. I stopped working "jobs". I didn't drink or do any drugs whatsoever, legal or otherwise. I was scared to death, but not depressed. I had an aunt who said- You're on a spiritual quest. I think she was right. It was a search for self.
I remember standing on a beach alone on my 40th birthday. I had just spent all my remaining money, except 50$, on the motel I was staying at. My property- foreclosed, my bills- all delinquent, I was staying here and there, wherever. I had nothing anymore except my 20 year old car, clothes, and some personal items. I had never been so "low". It was liberating. I stood on that beach, and I said to myself- I have nothing anymore. I can do anything. How would I live my life, if I lived a life without fear? If I could do ANYTHING?
I made a decision on that beach and went with it. I began working on a craft I'd always been interested in but had no proficiency at. I spent days, weeks, sometimes not speaking with anyone, just working, working, working. I worked in solitude much of the time. I found a way to make it work. I stayed with my mom sometimes, a friend of mine who is now a Buddhist monk, and a cousin of mine. I just did what I had to do, so I could continue to work my craft, hone my skills. Picked up day jobs here and there, just did what I had to. I found what I was looking for. I found what made me feel alive in the world of the undead. The only problem is, I wasn't proficient at it. I devoted my time 100% to this labor to the exclusion of all other things.
The years passed. The few remaining people in my life began to waver. I was starting to make a little money at what I was doing finally, but then the floor fell out. I was nearly homeless. There was a countdown to days until I was walking the streets. So, I played monkey-bars and found work on the fly. The job sucked. I did it for six months. I used it to monkey-bar over to another job that I like. All the while, I'm still pursuing my passion on the side.
Now, 6 years later, I rent a room in a house in the forest on the side of a cold mountain. I sleep on the floor. I have next to nothing. Friends and family members have almost to a person abandoned me, given up hope. He's lost. He's crazy. Threw away his life. I tried to help him. He doesn't want help.
These people live empty lives. They are the undead. I found what I love, and I'm doing it. Maybe some day, my proficiency will grow to the point that I gain some measure of income, enough to live exclusively doing it. For now, I work a part time job where I take care of parks on the mountain. I don't talk to anyone. I keep to myself. I root 100% for myself now. I live my own Super Bowl, World Series, World Cup. I've found dedication, faith, love of my self, and my passion. I'm true to myself in a world that hates me for it. I will not give up, even if it means my inevitable homelessness/death. Everyone else in my life might look down at me as a failure, and they do. I had so much and walked away from it all, destroyed the house of cards I had built. But, deep down in my soul, my heart sings when I lose myself in my craft. When I die, I'll know I gave it my all to do what I love, no sacrifice withheld. Money, people, things, all nouns, sacrificed.
Society seeks to enslave and bedazzle the modern man with empty illusions. Walk away. Seek solitude, find yourself, and leave it all behind. You'll find whats more important than all the riches the world has to offer and you'll find a courage, fortitude, and faith inside that was always absent. Your soul will sing to you too, and you will not be alone though everyone leaves you.
You are living a beautiful life. Thank you for sharing
I have some questions, how can I get in contact with you
@@jeremiahdurian-williams2732 - I'd prefer to remain anonymous. Perhaps others have these same questions. You can ask them here, and I'll try and answer them. A lot of the stuff I've lived is stuff you just have to walk through yourself in order to truly understand. It's just the way it is with this kind of stuff. As long as the questions don't get too personal, I'll be happy to answer them in the best way I can.
I scrolled and I was like I’m not actually about to read this while thing. Well I did and I’m glad I did. I feel like I just watched/read a book/movie and I feel somewhat inspired though that will wane very quickly. Cool to read tho I rlly want to know what the craft is now 😂
@@mauve9266 - The craft for me is important. It's everything to me. For everyone else though, it doesn't really matter WHAT it is. When I started my journey down this path, I had so many who turned on me, mocked me in some cases, that I decided I wouldn't discuss it with anyone anymore in specific terms. Most of the time I talked about what I was doing, it was met with derision, rolling of eyes, and "what do you know about that?" People in the world, living by society rules and their own self-imposed limitations, inwardly despise people like me. It's like a natural reaction. How could I have found an answer they missed? Why do I think I'm so special? You're not making money at it, then becomes, you're not making enough.
My "craft" is now between me and my soul. Although it's promoted that one should be transparent, especially a man, in this day and age and divulge everything to others. I wholly disagree. There are things that are sacred to yourself, to your own soul, that shouldn't be shared. These things are like seeds of hope that require nourishment and protection, build high walls around them, and whatever you do, don't let other people trample them. I do not think you'd do such a thing, but my 'craft' is just for me. I hope you find something in your own life so special, so sacred to just you, that you'd seek to keep it so protected.
You're killing it man. I hope you're approached by a producer so you can make big movies!
When one door closes, another one opens. Remember that. Also, change happens; when preparation meets opportunity. So work on yourself, make yourself prepared, because when the time comes; you want to be ready.
🙏🏻🙏🏻
A man that needs conflict to feel masculine is both shallow and immature. Pick up some dumbbells, go help someone in need with your own two hands, teach a child a skill, maintain your home, have respect for women. These are only a handful of ways any man can feel masculine.
😢you almost made a tear drop, that’s great saying, but conflict is inevitable through most of life
@Jeff Abramowitz Goldenberg fr what is he even talking about
This is a great channel. The fact that you went to Hong Kong says lots about your passion and commitment.
I decided 2020 had to be the year I changed it all. I have to face my fear. I hate this world and the way it world works. I want to change that but I had to change myself first. I'll be 2yrs sober in March and I've done a lot but I'm so scared.
@Elijah Kitsmiller Lol, could've been better. Still sober so yay but damn it's been a rollercoaster.
Same here still rollingcoasting, i wished i be better tommorow maybe next month i really dont know
Yer name? haha.
You doing good ?
@@bigbosscar_youtube2845 Haha, mostly. Not as far as I thought I'd be 4yrs later but still OK overall. Hit 6yrs sober last week.
I have been trying to figure out why I sometimes get the thought 'why can't a family member just die' or 'Why can't this car just drive into me', and now I know what it is. I have a really good life, and it disturbed me to have those thoughts, so having a name for it is relieving.
Thank you very much ❤️
What is the name for it?
@@jonnylawrence7766 Lachesism :)
@@leonard-gq5eh Thanks mate
What is the main difference between Intrusive thoughts and lachesism?
ahh this video explained so many of my self-destructive/masochistic habits. Takes a toll on the body though, it can work in the short-term but you need discipline to pull you through.
You can choose courage or you can choose comfort. But you can’t choose both.
In 2018, I experienced several months of absolute psychosis. I lived in the chaos of my delusions. I've since recovered. During those months, I wrecked every relationship I ever had. It was terrifying. But recovery has come with a overwhelming sense of loss. I still have some ideas of reference, I feel as if these movies are stolen from my mind.
@Luis Blanco , no delusions?
@Luis Blanco , I dont believe you.
@Luis Blanco , ok, sorry about that comment about not believing. Thanks for sharing.
Me too bro. Now I’m recovering and it hurts. I’m giving myself a whole year to recover. All the battles got the best of me and I’m trying to stop the depression
The true power comes from controlling owerselves and not let us fall in to chaos for personal gloryfication persuing simplicity.
That is power, chaos is just a coward rout and does not bring freedom as one think, at all.
No matter how many pseudo cool characters one might invento to push such idea.
Depressed guys only feel peace in chaos and tense situations, speaking out of experience
Yo this was fucking amazing and inspirational , love these essays, they're so powerful and courageous in exploring such perceptions.
i Think i needed to watch this more than i realize.
This is my favorite video since How an Artist Turns Pro, i was super excited for Dark Knight Rises but now anything from you is going to be overwhelming.
also thank you so much for the detailed description, those instrumentals were the best x _ x
godspeed and good luck on future projects and current affairs
thank you for making this video
I love this deep shit, I struggle to describe it but I feel it in my own life
this is one of the most embarrassing of these "video essays" I've seen, and that's REALLY saying something
You should have added one more movie named "V for Vendetta"
Yep
I think the reason why people enjoy chaotic characters is because a small part in our mind actually agrees with what they are doing knowing it’s morally wrong. We enjoy these characters because they are living their lives without fear, without having to worry about others opinions, traits people lack to unlock their live true self. We become almost attracted to these characters and try to embody their looks, and personas, charisma, but back out due to the voice in our heads thinking “your not good enough”. I guess that’s why people enjoy chaotic/nihilistic characters.
Plus we're not the ones who have to directly experience the consequences.
Imagine waking up and realising that you're going to be homeless and broke, if you don't start preparing for your retirement (If you live long enough) at say 20 years old. Realise that you're taking part in a game that requires you to work and consume debt, all for the sakes of taking part in the game. Being on a team. It's safe, easy and you'll not have to worry about much else than the rules we set as players (Society).
Oh wait, you don't need to imagine. You're living it.
I think many people who are at the bottom of their lives or society feel that chaos and major events in society feels liberating. We are in a very structured world where being that good student or worker doesn't take us anywhere (at least the majority of people). At times, chaos feels like it's the only time everyone is equal for that moment.
I'm dooming you to come here again
"To most people, the world looks like its falling apart into pieces. But to guys like us, its falling together right where it should have been all along. The world was only one or two steps away from chaos. We stood by....waiting for it like a storm on the horizon, coming to cleanse us all."
Excellent video and thought-provoking topics, much appreciation for you efforts and dedication.
"Some men just want to watch the world burn." I can see an increasing number of people that have adopted this 'philosophy', and on closer inspection they are always weak, lazy cynics that are trying to externalize their own short-comings and drag society down into their pathetic malaise. And when put to the test they will be the first ones to betray not only themselves but the 'ideals' they supposedly hold. You cannot reason with unreasonable people.
This is called a socipath. Those people are literally insane
I feel like a half failure and half genius. Anyone else?
Being trapped in a stagnant of routines and schedules while fully aware of its influence in your life aren't freedom. Freedom in today's world is one of the greatest lies ever told.
Im compelled to think that Lucasfilm could have taken this approach....A trilogy soley from the eyes of the antagonist "Kylo Ren" focusing on how he struggles with both external & internal chaos!!!
I'm of the opinion that Walter White always had the Heisenberg persona repressed deep inside of him waiting for a chance to get out. For him, the chaos and disaster that he found himself thrust into was that chance. In essence, his arc boils down to the manifestation of his true self and the consequences it has for him and those around him.
You're right, but then again, don't we all have a dark inner self that we usually suppress in ourselves?
@@MacMan2152I certainly do at least
I don't think he always had the persona, instead, I think the persona was a sort of extreme reactionary response to himself living a life much below his potential. It was the prolonged comfort and lack of fulfillment that drove him to become Heisenberg. If he did something more with his life than just being a high-school teacher, he wouldn't feel the need to become Heisenberg.
In Jungian psychology it is called the shadow and we all have this repressed side to us. The key is to integrate it not be overtaken by it.
Heath ledger’s joker was such a shadow in this universe. That he created two-face. Don’t fight me on this.
The thumbnail are my three favorite characters of all time.
Why do you think chaos can cause people to be like Batman compare to people who become like the joker?
Upbringing, social class, education, environment, trauma, genes, those all play a part in how one turns out after said events. Some people use chaos to turn good while others use it to turn evil. Just like a person embracing comfort & stability can also turn good or evil. Some people become rich & then destroy the people within their system of comfort & stability. Others use that comfort & stability to help others & donate to charity. There’s good & evil in every group.
@@hobnob666 and it because of everything you listed?
@@chillysea1 Yes of course, we are all driven by influence. I don’t believe in free will because free will implies nothing influences my decisions. Everything influences my decisions. We don’t make decisions just because. We don’t author our own lives. Otherwise that’s wish fulfillment.
I embrace the chaotic random absurdity that is existence. Absurdity is the middle ground between existentialism and nihilism, neither heroic nor villainous. We cannot exist without meaning, but we are incapable of determining what that meaning is.
That thumbnail is some serious cringe bro
Your profile is some serious cringe bro
0:00 i thought there was shit on my screen
After slowly transitioning into a live fast die young lifestyle, I feel more free than I ever have in my whole life. Everything is better.
@Michael Davis drugs, bitches, partys, blow your money on shiny new shit and enjoy the short ride I took off 20 kgs off my back after starting to not give a fuck about what’s “moral” and what’s not
I lived that life for years.. almost got killed and arrested many times! I seriously miss it. Travelling the world, bandit life. Was an adventure. I have a beautiful child now, so those days are over. But they shaped me and prepared me for anything. No matter how bad things get, I’ll fight and adapt like no other. Growth isn’t found in the crowd, it’s found in the arena, doing battle. Bravo 👏
If there's no pleasure there's no pain that's what Walter showed us
and vice versa.....,
If you idolise these characters, you're forgetting their point
Shankar Satheesan we all have a dark side
what’s their Point ?
@@YH-ls7km To make the good guys good. I dunno rofl
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Lachesism. To step into chaos on our own terms... most powerful insight I've ever heard. This insight did more for me than any 'advise' ever did.
Now's the only time it's important to publish a video of the hong kong protests. Once their liberty is gone, good luck getting it back. Unsubscribed.
I never had cable tv growing up cause we couldnt afford it but i also just found it boring. But that made me a movie nerd. Movies like joker, fight club, and taxi driver really hit me. I like to see the villains point of view
One of the best video i watched so far in my life, i was wondering "why these 3 caracters end up similarly and why a big amount of people in the society "loved" this antiheros?", in fact my favourite movie is fight club and me and some people resonate with this characters in many ways. Adding to this, i concluded one more thing: these 3 characters (and similarly with elliot alderson from the serial "mr robot") have the nice guy syndrome explained in the book "no more mr nice guy" of robert glover, they all have this issue before his internal destruction. Keep the good work bro!
Good job, I'd like to see Bladerunner2049 essay
And that's why I should run away from home, face my pathetic fears, and go live in my van as an ultra minimalist. Screw society, van life all the way.
Keep us updated man. Do what you must.
It’s your journey, keep rocking!
Don't puss out on the Hong Kong video man. Just do it.
4:44 The music made this scene so intense
With every joker there's a batman
It's like a revenge movie you want the main character to get his or her revenge on what they see as injustice
The saddest part is that Walter already had what most people want, a loving spouse, children, nice home, well educated, good career, a good supportive family.
And lungcancer
It's 100% made clear in the pilot episode that Walter is not at all happy with his choices. And feels oppressed by family and career.
All your examples of freedom are so negative. Creativity cannot be arrived at without limitations. None of these "heroes"
take that into account.
No great man lives a comfortable life.
says who? Society?
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 says history
@@lordkaos3676 lol
make your hong kong video man...
I concur: this IS a pt of most of us to experience chaos, storms and even monsters...but survive
After reading The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and The Picture of Dorian Gray, these could well be the precursors to movies like Joker, Fight Club, American Psycho, etc.
Sorry, only made it halfway through but this feels like over intellectualised crap. You haven't defined the terms you're working with and the background cello music makes me want to punch someone in the teeth. Walter White isn't a hero who finds freedom in anarchy, he's a dying man who finds a way to stay a step ahead of the reaper by doing the opposite of what he should.Breaking Bad is a morality tale about not choosing to destroy those you love even if you're dying not glamourising selling drugs to raise cash however appealing it may be. I should know since I came up with it.
This is true. “You feel most at peace when chaos and serenity exist as one.” Somewhat of an anti hero quote.
This is a good video and all, but just a small clarification for anyone watching:
*Fight club and Breaking bad are far much better than joker and they are not in the same when it comes to portraying mental issues.*
I like to keep in mind that films like these are inspired by real life, not the other way around.
Really looking forward to the assessment of the HK riots. Great video as always, thank you so much!
Nope: Men need to raise a family, build a civilization. If his job isn't physical enough, add some exercise. Everything else is just static.
If you’re serious, I seriously agree with you, the comment above yours is not as bright tho
@@shakey3306
Maybe the books author didn't intend it. The men in Fight Club are lost because they don't focus on family and civilization. That is the real message. A powerful scene is the man that takes off his wedding ring to fight. Sure, to try to avoid a serious physical injury. The deeper meaning was he was being unfaithful to his wife in his actions.
“Chaos did create the Joker, but did it not also create the Batman?”
This was a really good video but i think lachesism is more so just you surviving a disaster and through it growing as a character, a blank slate, someone better, harder than before. Not necessarily have the disaster break society and the big chaos aspect you covered.
I think the video is more about Anarchism than Lachesism. Like in Tyler's part it felt like Nihilistic Anarchism.
Chuck Palahnuick the author of Fight Club has a great bit about the term transgressive literature. Some of the concept being that ones internal existensial or emotional struggle is in some stories outwarded in strong fashion with "change" and chaos. And reward. I also was reminded about the term Apocalypse(now) to built something brand new out of destruction wich is rarely a good idea or stance. Thanks for the video essay.
If we don't create our own suffering, our own brains will. It might sound bleak, but this is really how humans work.
There is no such thing as a "quiet life". Focus on having a hard, but rewarding one instead.
Disasters and Chaos will rise!!!!
Put it out in snippets then. Tell their story through your eyes, what you experienced.