@@vivek27789 its not my original quote its from Confucius and its actually written like this : “We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one.”
@@orosedobheathaabhaile yes of course but the point is you start to live your life the right way when you realize your mortality.. So 2 different lives in one life 😉
@@elitemangudai1016 No it matters...bcoz if it is original then I have to give the person due credit he deserves....And if it is from some other famous philosopher, author or any famous writer then I would be very interested to explore his or her body of work and get further knowledge.
Yes because not many real fathers left i was lucky to have a real strict and loving father.He showed me how to weld repair cars helped me to build my own house a drillseargeant in my teens,advisor in my 20's and a friend in my 30's a rare thing nowadays.
so true. I was always in trouble in my 20's (hung around with wrong crowd) After a fight I would be awake all night high on adrenaline better than any drug
This is also what really hit home for me about Fight Club. Getting in a fist fight just puts everything in perspective like a mofo. As an adult, I‘ve only been in one real fist fight and it was outside a bar latenight in college. Luckily I won but I was rattled for a week afterwards. You go through life scared of so much B.S. most of it somehow connected to money and expectations. And then something really crazy happens and everything you were so worried about means nothing. Then time goes on and you fall back into the same pattern of worrying about nonsense.
@Dawei Zhao that quote has nothing to do with comfort zones or anything. Its explicitly talking about the clarity you feel in your mind right after heavy physical exertion. Problems that would cause stress suddenly are not as stressful once your body builds up a sweat and your body is focused on the workout
I read Fight Club after I divorced my first wife. I was feeling depressed and alone like I had nothing to live for and then I read the line: its not until you've lost everything that you're free to do anything. Those words resonated with me and snapped me out of my depression. I took audit of the life that I lost and realized THAT was the life not worth living. THAT LIFE was the one I should've felt despair for. My new life was filled with possibilities, freedom and chances to get it right. I spent the next 5 years being extremely free and happy. Then I got married and fucked it all up again. **Update on 9/28/2021 I came home from work and was blindsided with divorce papers. She took my kids and dog and it really screwed me up. This time was different because my kids are very important to me. I had to fight like hell and spend a small fortune to get my sons back. Time to re-read Fight Club and re-build myself into the man I am supposed to be. I will raise my sons to embrace their primal masculinity and go against the norms of a society that encourages femininity and calls those who self castrate brave. She left me because of my disobedience and refusal to shut up and provide. Because I have my sons in martial arts and encourage them to embrace their natural instincts. I have my sons 50% of the time but now I don’t have her interjection.
@@Lamar1911 Thank you Brother! Coincidentally my wife left me and took my kids from me on 9/28/21 and I’m back in the same situation I was 14 years ago. Only difference is I’m much more successful and I have 2 wonderful sons. I got my kids back and it’s blowing up in her face but I am finding myself again and figuring shit out. I’m being a better example for my sons and I am not going to make the same mistakes 3 times. I’m done simping and I’m done with these entitled selfish bitches.
"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is the answer we really need." This line resonated with me the most. It propelled me that I do not need the acceptance or approval of a woman to have self worth as a man.
shrapnel77 too many fools hear that line and think that women are to blame for ruining men, when they were abandoned by their fathers in the first place. Love yourself, love your brother.
@@JasonVoorheeTalkShow it could also be that men would never know whether they had a child itself. Either way, it's a woman's choice to have a baby, not a man. So you can't blame men here.
Abcd Pqrs any time you have sex you run the inherent risk of pregnancy or contracting an STD. It would be more accurate to say women have the final say in whether to keep the baby but it takes two to make one. If you don’t want that risk, then don’t have sex.
I saw fight club as “fear vs comfort”. If you get too comfortable working a job u hate to buy stuff you dont need with the money you dont have you will end up feeling empty and hollow as if life will never be complete, but throughout the movie Tyler envies every person that feels extreme pain or fear because fighting our fears liberates our lives making us feel alive which this generation in america avoids and decide to never feel any pain and always avoid it at any cost, but pain and fear is what makes us stronger, manlier and more alive and we lack that. “Try doing something you are afraid of doing and you will find yourself free”.
I am going through the same thing dude feels in the movie i never seen the movie but i feel like pain is getting me through the struggle and i got into a fight and i got punched in the face once and its like i didnt even feel it my head just turned is all i lost my mentor i and i lost a lot more long story no time but i dont know what to do anymore i dont even know what i want to become and the scariest thing in this world is a someone with nothing to lose and well idk what to think or do i need advice because im worried im going down a path that will only end in a fight club i dont asociate with family at all im alone i just hope that if my future self sees this remeber to keep pushing dont stop you got out of your dads house and your somewhere decent you have no one and never had anyone you are the reason your here today mabye tomorrow will be a brighter day but always remeber to keep fighting and domt stop till you made it you got this i dont know what lies in store for you but i know it will be bumpy you may not live but just know theres always something good that lies in store
@@reapersexotics1129 Be strong, brother. You just need to do the right thing, figuring out what that is, is the hardest part. Everyone has problems, to a point where (nearly) nobody cares about other people's problems, they are only focused on their own. How you deal with your own problems defines you as an individual. You could choose the path of an addict, and destroy yourself. You could take a step back, reflect and decide on the changes which will improve your well being and eventually change your life for the better. We are all looking for purpose here, and we will all get lost along the way attempting to find it. This movie shows how capitalism is the biggest distraction along our route to find our purpose. I urge you to watch it. Just please don't take it literally, look deeper into it for its true meaning. Stay strong, friend.
@@reapersexotics1129 my brother go out and destroy the world, stay strong and never give up. Bloody hell I feel the same but keep getting up and always keep going
“It’s only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything.” This quotation changed my life at a very pivotal moment when I was recovering from drug addiction and emptiness.
Chuck: "sometimes I go to the party and listen to hear somebody tell that personal anecdote that does evoke all those other anecdotes because a great anecdote doesn't leave people speechless, it leaves them competing to tell a better version of the same thing." Joe: "That's really interesting. There's a parallel there with comedy, for sure." lol you know it's true because the second he says it, Joe tries to one-up him with his own anecdote
Pointing out that comedy has the process of utilizing and multiplying anecdotes is not itself an anecdote. It is an observation and a pretty useful one in the context of this conversation. Its not a tale to evoke some reaction.
@@leonardmccannon3136 true but what op said also is true. I never read anybook in my life but after listening to this interview, im fascinated by this author and his ability, whether its on purpose or not, to hit a nerve of relatability in every sentence and draw either a story or an expansion of a notion out of a person is really mind blowing to me. Thats such a deadly and rare skill.
Did anyone else catch that at the end? Chuck mentions when something is interesting, people don't become speechless, they will compete and try to tell a better story using the same idea. As he finishes this thought, Joe responds, "Interesting... there are parallels in comedy..." (as if about to tell a competing story)
Depends. I think the Harry Potter author would have gotten "cool idea" reactions and not really real experiences and stories from those at the parties that can relate. Fight club is about something everyone can resonate to
Joe is a regular 100 IQ guy. Sometimes, I wish he'd stop trying to relate everything to his lowbrow life interests. It always seems to take away from his intellectual guests' message. Maybe it's just me.
in another interview chuck calls it a love story. a modern version of great gatsby. is it possible that a story can be more then just 1 thing? Snuff, rant and choke are also worth a reading! brilliant writer and storyteller!
Men arent allowed to be men. Masculinity is a bad word now. Men have been and will always be agressive by nature. Its what testosterone does. Traditionally, young boys and men have found ways of channeling that into creativity. Not anymore. Now its young men being raised by single mothers to hate themselves.
I grew up watching fight club in my teen years. It taught me alot. Not to let material possessions control you (the things you own, end up owning you). Not to be a slave to society (an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables - slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. )
You know whats really crazy? That stuff was already told 200y ago by a beardy man called Marx. And he goes way deeper than fight club (philosophically) with all this. Its really worth to read. It helps alot to understand how modern societies work. ✊🏽
“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.”
@@mingus445_gaming and why are those kids tough? They are the kids of Gen X. While the quote is perfect for Gen X (it's target), if you add the word "influencer" to the lineup, it can also work for the current social media generation.
Therefore, the oppression that flows from further up the (social) pyramid. Is and seems to be carried across many generations in a well disguised platform. Sure am glad this isn't my home, planet earth, spiritual battleground.
I'm 35 years old and have been out of the Marine Corps for years at this point; yet one moment of pride will never leave my heart. We had a Senior Drill Instructor who trained us as young recruits, he definitely fit the spot of that father role for all 70 of us marine recruits. Sadly he was called to the front lines as he was a Recon Marine and we got a new SDI who trained us very well. At the end of our time in boot camp, we came into the Final Drill event, where we placed 2nd place in the last event. We killed it, we got first place and we felt amazing, we knew right when we finished we did amazing. As we march back to the barracks, we are informed that a guest is waiting for us. We see in the barracks waiting for us, a battle injured SDI who has returned to San Diego due to getting shot. He witnessed our 1st place final drill and got to witness what we were trained to become.. After all the struggle and training, months and months of mastering a craft.. He let us know with a smile on his face, tears in his eyes, and the loudest most proudest Marine you'd ever imagine, of how proud he was of all of us and the Marines we now are. I never felt prouder in my life. Semper Fi Marines
@Shahaan Singh no male bonding in Good Will Hunting ? Are you kidding? Fighting as a group against another group of guys, working construction, hanging out in the neighbourhood, father issues, girlfriend issues, emotional issues, life decisions etc etc etc etc. Dude, you really should watch it again, seems like it may have went over your head...
@Shahaan Singh what about the fact that what Will wanted to do and did with his time was" Why does Will hang out with a bunch of stupid Gorillas? Because anyone of them would take a bat to your head if he asked them to. That's loyalty." Robin Williams Good Will Hunting.
It's ironic how many people idolize the character of Tyler without realizing that's exactly the opposite point of the book's themes. No, you should not trust in Tyler. He represents values of 'freedom' and masculinity, but manifested in all the wrong ways. He is the opposite extreme, which is equally as hindering as the corporate/cultural slave side (as the narrator finds out at the end, he's a prisoner of his own creation). A balance needs to be sought. Neither extreme will offer you a good end.
@@technimechanical I disagree, religion is finding spirituality. Mindless is not having an open mind to try and understand that there's more to this life.
@@a619ko religion and spirituality are two completely different things. And there is nothing more to this life wanna know why? Because we have made sure that there is nothing more and allowed ourselves to be manipulated and controlled and ruled over by other people.
I remember walking out of the theatre after seeing it for the first time. I was 16, and into martial arts and action/kung fu movies. When in to see it with a like minded friend just because it was called "Fight Club", we didn't have any idea what we were getting ourselves into. Oh boy, was our mind blown, I can clearly remember my friends face, eyes wide open, with the biggest "wtf did I just watch" expression, my face was pretty much the same. This movie showed me venues of lives i didn't now existed, let alone avoid. The first movies that showed me what "subverting expectations" really means, it made me think for myself and planted some of the seeds for some of mine first truly original ideas. What a movie! And also I was introduced to Edward fucking Norton!
Chuck is my favorite author. I read fight club and couldn't get enough of his writing style. Amazingly dark and humorous. Absolutely brilliant writer. I'd recommend anything he's written.
"You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all part of the same compost pile. Our culture has made us all the same. No one is truly white or black or rich, anymore. We all want the same. Individually, we are nothing." - Tyler Durden, Fight Club.
Except that quote come from a pathetic narcissistic guy who has to imagine himself as what he envisions as an alpha male. It's a delusion of grandure that ultimately causes his self destruction and near suicide. Tyler quotes honestly make me cring a lot. Because he is a villian and is supposed to be this psychotic and pathetic figure and yet you have people admiring him like a hero.
I just watched Fight Club for the first time a couple of days ago, and I was totally blown away. I am a 21yr old guy, single, new to Uni, new in a big town etc the whole thing you get it. Anyway, I felt like that Movie spoke to me on a personal level. I guess a lot of guys felt like that. Hell, I am probably just as much part of the target demographic as a lot of other guys. But the resounance it had on me, with my personal experience... It didnt change me completly or something like that, but rather influenced and validated my believes and the man I started to become.
@@siddharthnaik2361 he’s saying the fact he brought up comedy after the anecdote thought, proves what he just said. That truly good anecdotes evoke competing anecdotes. Rogan’s “competing anecdote” was relating it to comedy.
My secondary father died earlier this year. Alone in his home. Heart failure. But he loved me and i will always have that. And a massive family of other kids he took off the street and schooled in cooking cleaning and hygine. He taught me right from wrong in the darkest of circumstance. RIP Liam. Xx
@@bw-rx1qd holy f.... thats creepy i just woke up from a dream in which my actual dad just died. Still shaken. Then i see my notifications on my phone and its this message. I am spooked. Thanks though bro.
In Sept of 2015 I lost What I thought was the love of my life. I heard a voice say "once you lose everything, you're free to do anything". Chucks writing saved me.
The "Secondary Father" is a very strong and qualified concept. I can attest to this, as someone who grew up with a very smart, loving, religious, amazingly understanding father, but also respecting a father figure that encompassed similarly respectable features, but was stronger in features that my birth father did not have- abrasive, secular, dry, and unforgiving. I did not lose respect for my father, but it gave me a new and very important perspective on many things that I did not get with my birth father. I am forever grateful to both my father and the secondaries that I had that made me who I am today.
Saw Fight Club, In the Cinerama Dome Hollywood. Opening night, on my 29th birthday. I returned to see it four more times. It was a seminal moment for men my age. Great book too (almost identical to the film).
I remember I saw it in the theater. My friends had to drag me to go see it bc I thought it was going to just be another dumb action movie. I was blown away once I saw it!!! It's still one of my favorite movies of all time!
This interview was made in heaven for Joe to be part of. Outstanding quality of questions and knowledge on the topic, just a joy to watch and listen to, both of them.
I'm a woman who has always loved me despite not having a father in my life and I love that Chuck mentions Dead Poets Society, Karate Kid and Officer in this discussion. Along w FC I always adored those stories and saw all many, many times. I was entranced with the depiction of the male experience in all of them. This makes me love Chuck even more.
Fightclub is one of those few cases where you go in and watch and being different afterwards... it really added to your view on life. I really envy the myself not yet have seen it just to experience it once more!
Though this movie didn't impact me at first as I was still a teenager when I first saw it, over the years it has Really hit home. This is just one of those stories we really need to keep around and really consider what is being told within it. We live in a time and place where the "morals" of this story can really help us as individuals and as a society. Also I find it odd that over the years the film/book seems to have been forgotten, at least within my group of people.
Not only is it being forgotten slightly, but society is trying to tell men that its problematic for us to like fight club. "Something something toxic masculinity etc"
17 now i do get some of the stuff from it but to be honest i don't understand it at all and i was actually thinking i would understand it more in coming years
“I say lets never be complete, I say lets stop being perfect.... Lets evolve. Let the chips fall where they may....” -Tyler Durden The best quote from Fight Club...pure genius
Met Chuck Palahniuk on tour for Invisible Monsters in 2007. I went on to pursue a journalism degree partly because of the inspiration I felt from that talk. He’s so insightful
His newest book, “Adjustment Day” is a novel that will haunt you. It’s written under the name “Talbott Reynolds” Not Chuck Palahniuk. Be seen carrying the book it will save your life.
Except not many people are reading it. And it, like Fight Club, is satire. Although maybe it needs to happen looking at some of these comments. (Chuck's name is on the jacket, and on the paperback... don't make it sound so cryptic)
It started off good in my opinion. First third I whizzed through, enjoyed it and learned alot. Second third got a bit boring, last third I gave up, just didn't care about the characters, i might check wiki just to see what happens in the end
"There are so few social models or stories for men" Yeah, that's why we read graphic novels and play video games. Because that's where they are covered in underlying tones.
Fight club for me and my friends made a big impact. My father showed the movie to me when I was maybe 12 and I re watched it as a late teen early 20’s and when I got my first apartment I would always have “fight club” playing on my tv when my boys would come over. I boxed growing up but most of my friends had never been in a fight in their lives. So that summer 2017 I taught them all how to fight in my backyard at my first apartment. We’d get drunk and fight all day and night and watch that movie. It was a great summer and that’s when we became men. 😂
My secondary father was my first sergeant major. At the time he held the record for the highest mountain rescue off Mount Everest. Imagine what that does to a impressionable young man confidence when your surrounded daily by great men. 🙌🏼
Wow, the secondary father comments are beautiful. I totally experienced this with my dad. Then a different person named Jack and now it's a split between my dead and some other mentors. What great insight.
Wow! I didn’t know that Chuck Palahniuk was on the podcast. He was a superhero to me when I was a teenager and I totally forgot about him until now. I can speak a bit of English now so I should go buy the English versions of his masterpieces.
A few things I love about Fight Club. The anti-consumerist and anti-corporation themes. The cathartic release of violence and how masculinity is tied to it. (Which is the reason why I love MMA) How society uses consumerism to suppress our masculine and primal instincts.
Saw this movie for the first time ever when I was 14 or so around the year 2008- 2009 and it hit me straight across the face and has been my favourite movie ever since just resonates through my soul on how I relate perfectly to this movie
Fight Club is the movie that ranks amongst the best, OF ALL TIME. "Go home people"... And then they walk down the basement of Louie's Tavern..."Welcome to Fight Club..." That's it!
Fight Club is as relevant today as it was when it came out nearly 20 years ago. Absolutely brilliant book/film.
The book is better. I know people alwsys say that, but the ending evoked so much more passion.
BRADLEY PITTS
manintheplutoid Wait, Fight Club is toxic masculinity now? Did they miss the whole point of the movie?
I would say that is even more relevant today.
That’s very possible, 0doo.
I went to my first fight club meeting yesterday. I was late so I missed the first few rules but wow I love fight club I can't wait to go back
I guess no one will be there next week ...
#1 rule of fight club is you don't talk about fight club
Rule #2 is YOU don’t talk about Fight Club!
Rule #3: if someone yells stop, goes limp or taps out, the fight is over
Bossman Fucktheworld rule #4: only two guys to a fight
Every man lives 2 lives! the second one starts when he realizes he's only got one life to live..
Is this a original comment by u or some famous quote?
@@vivek27789 its not my original quote its from Confucius and its actually written like this : “We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one.”
@@orosedobheathaabhaile yes of course but the point is you start to live your life the right way when you realize your
mortality.. So 2 different lives in one life 😉
@@vivek27789 it doesnt matter. What matters is it is true. You get caught up by labels and formalities
@@elitemangudai1016 No it matters...bcoz if it is original then I have to give the person due credit he deserves....And if it is from some other famous philosopher, author or any famous writer then I would be very interested to explore his or her body of work and get further knowledge.
An impossibly well written story. Fight club is beyond genius and any millennial man can relate.
Every man, I think.
It was written for generation X, but yes, both generations will get it.
And Gen Z, baby boomers can't relate
@akshay Viswambharan I never said Genz can't, i said boomers can't
Yes because not many real fathers left i was lucky to have a real strict and loving father.He showed me how to weld repair cars helped me to build my own house a drillseargeant in my teens,advisor in my 20's and a friend in my 30's a rare thing nowadays.
"After fighting, everything else in your life got the volume turned down... You could deal with anything."
Jack Public perhaps no truer statement has ever been spoken
so true. I was always in trouble in my 20's (hung around with wrong crowd)
After a fight I would be awake all night high on adrenaline
better than any drug
This is also what really hit home for me about Fight Club. Getting in a fist fight just puts everything in perspective like a mofo. As an adult, I‘ve only been in one real fist fight and it was outside a bar latenight in college. Luckily I won but I was rattled for a week afterwards. You go through life scared of so much B.S. most of it somehow connected to money and expectations. And then something really crazy happens and everything you were so worried about means nothing. Then time goes on and you fall back into the same pattern of worrying about nonsense.
@Dawei Zhao that quote has nothing to do with comfort zones or anything. Its explicitly talking about the clarity you feel in your mind right after heavy physical exertion. Problems that would cause stress suddenly are not as stressful once your body builds up a sweat and your body is focused on the workout
Hmmm I already had a fight and work out a lots but my life still feels likes shit. Maybe I need to fight again.
"The things you own end up owning you"
'Bought' a house recently. This x100
Ahh that part really struck me
Budda whould smile.
The dealership lol
A man raised by wolves will resemble wolves, a man raised by commodities will resemble commodities. Disposable, replaceable, expandable
I read Fight Club after I divorced my first wife. I was feeling depressed and alone like I had nothing to live for and then I read the line: its not until you've lost everything that you're free to do anything. Those words resonated with me and snapped me out of my depression. I took audit of the life that I lost and realized THAT was the life not worth living. THAT LIFE was the one I should've felt despair for. My new life was filled with possibilities, freedom and chances to get it right. I spent the next 5 years being extremely free and happy.
Then I got married and fucked it all up again.
**Update on 9/28/2021 I came home from work and was blindsided with divorce papers. She took my kids and dog and it really screwed me up. This time was different because my kids are very important to me. I had to fight like hell and spend a small fortune to get my sons back.
Time to re-read Fight Club and re-build myself into the man I am supposed to be. I will raise my sons to embrace their primal masculinity and go against the norms of a society that encourages femininity and calls those who self castrate brave.
She left me because of my disobedience and refusal to shut up and provide. Because I have my sons in martial arts and encourage them to embrace their natural instincts. I have my sons 50% of the time but now I don’t have her interjection.
I can completely relate with your comment with the exception of I learned my lesson about marriage and women.....
Come on, I don’t believe that all men are unlucky in marriage…
@@j_bailey11 I thought that until almost every important marriage I saw, fictional or real fell apart.
Well J G, you are truly living and learning constantly...kudos, courage, elevation, peace and prosperity 2U brotha!💯👊✊😎👍🏼
@@Lamar1911 Thank you Brother! Coincidentally my wife left me and took my kids from me on 9/28/21 and I’m back in the same situation I was 14 years ago. Only difference is I’m much more successful and I have 2 wonderful sons. I got my kids back and it’s blowing up in her face but I am finding myself again and figuring shit out. I’m being a better example for my sons and I am not going to make the same mistakes 3 times. I’m done simping and I’m done with these entitled selfish bitches.
"We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is the answer we really need."
This line resonated with me the most. It propelled me that I do not need the acceptance or approval of a woman to have self worth as a man.
shrapnel77 too many fools hear that line and think that women are to blame for ruining men, when they were abandoned by their fathers in the first place. Love yourself, love your brother.
@@JasonVoorheeTalkShow it could also be that men would never know whether they had a child itself. Either way, it's a woman's choice to have a baby, not a man. So you can't blame men here.
Abcd Pqrs any time you have sex you run the inherent risk of pregnancy or contracting an STD. It would be more accurate to say women have the final say in whether to keep the baby but it takes two to make one. If you don’t want that risk, then don’t have sex.
@@JasonVoorheeTalkShow yes, women do have the final say in that, not men. So you can't blame men for women giving birth when they're not around.
@Feblik women aren't responsible for what men do, but in the context of pregnancy, women are responsible for what women do.
fight club stopped my obsession with branded clothes,shoes etc
Sourav Acharjee Same here. I buy cheap.
Thanks to fight club I never got that obsession. I even dislike those things
"No Logo" - Naomi Klein
Dan Penia woah dude, you’re so cool and different
@@wptny3339 you are probably one of those hypebeasts
I saw fight club as “fear vs comfort”. If you get too comfortable working a job u hate to buy stuff you dont need with the money you dont have you will end up feeling empty and hollow as if life will never be complete, but throughout the movie Tyler envies every person that feels extreme pain or fear because fighting our fears liberates our lives making us feel alive which this generation in america avoids and decide to never feel any pain and always avoid it at any cost, but pain and fear is what makes us stronger, manlier and more alive and we lack that. “Try doing something you are afraid of doing and you will find yourself free”.
One of the best comments I've read on RUclips so far.
Scott Savage Agreed, my anxiety really did changed my view on my life. Without my anxiety I’ll might be just no changes cycle of my life.
Beautiful
Right now I'm afraid of doing more push-ups cause my left tricep is in pain. I feel so fucking free it hurts.
That’s the longest sentence I’ve ever read
It's not until you've lost everything, that you're free to do anything.
losing all hope was freedom, shoutout to andrew hales.
Best quote of the movie
I am going through the same thing dude feels in the movie i never seen the movie but i feel like pain is getting me through the struggle and i got into a fight and i got punched in the face once and its like i didnt even feel it my head just turned is all i lost my mentor i and i lost a lot more long story no time but i dont know what to do anymore i dont even know what i want to become and the scariest thing in this world is a someone with nothing to lose and well idk what to think or do i need advice because im worried im going down a path that will only end in a fight club i dont asociate with family at all im alone i just hope that if my future self sees this remeber to keep pushing dont stop you got out of your dads house and your somewhere decent you have no one and never had anyone you are the reason your here today mabye tomorrow will be a brighter day but always remeber to keep fighting and domt stop till you made it you got this i dont know what lies in store for you but i know it will be bumpy you may not live but just know theres always something good that lies in store
@@reapersexotics1129 Be strong, brother. You just need to do the right thing, figuring out what that is, is the hardest part. Everyone has problems, to a point where (nearly) nobody cares about other people's problems, they are only focused on their own.
How you deal with your own problems defines you as an individual. You could choose the path of an addict, and destroy yourself. You could take a step back, reflect and decide on the changes which will improve your well being and eventually change your life for the better.
We are all looking for purpose here, and we will all get lost along the way attempting to find it.
This movie shows how capitalism is the biggest distraction along our route to find our purpose. I urge you to watch it. Just please don't take it literally, look deeper into it for its true meaning.
Stay strong, friend.
@@reapersexotics1129 my brother go out and destroy the world, stay strong and never give up. Bloody hell I feel the same but keep getting up and always keep going
“It’s only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything.”
This quotation changed my life at a very pivotal moment when I was recovering from drug addiction and emptiness.
That's a great quote. I'm sure it hits home with many...
GOOD LUCK with your addiction..just know, it never really goes away.you just have to be strong. And your not alone
@@burntout4268 I never quit going to meetings, even through a relapse. I’ll have 5 years on the 5th.
kind of stolen from lyrics of the song Me and Bobby McGee....."freedom's just another word for nothing else to lose"
Surely mate.
Nothing to lose .
Nothing to worry or fear about .
“The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide...”
What's your spirit animal?
@@360zm4 t
True piece of mind
360zm a penguin: slide, 360zm. Slide
@@360zm4 why
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
I am Jack's medulla oblongota. Without me Jack couldn't regulate his heart rate, blood pressure, or breathing.
I am Jack's colon, I get cancer and kill Jack.
Dj K-Oz I am Jill’s nipple
I am Jack's smirking revenge.
I am Jack’s inflamed sense of rejection
So in his next book, he writes a character who is a martial artist radio host... who smokes DMT.
This guy is the biggest creepshow ever, fuck every cunt who is sticking up for him and accepting him. Bunch of pedo dogs
@@SH19922x Joe Rogan or Chuck?
And is secretly a vampire transvestite by night.
S H dude gtfo
LSB underrated comment
Chuck: "sometimes I go to the party and listen to hear somebody tell that personal anecdote that does evoke all those other anecdotes because a great anecdote doesn't leave people speechless, it leaves them competing to tell a better version of the same thing."
Joe: "That's really interesting. There's a parallel there with comedy, for sure."
lol you know it's true because the second he says it, Joe tries to one-up him with his own anecdote
magicalwizard99 😂
Pointing out that comedy has the process of utilizing and multiplying anecdotes is not itself an anecdote.
It is an observation and a pretty useful one in the context of this conversation. Its not a tale to evoke some reaction.
I left the video laughing because of that! It's hilarious!
Chuck has everyone figured out
@@leonardmccannon3136 true but what op said also is true.
I never read anybook in my life but after listening to this interview, im fascinated by this author and his ability, whether its on purpose or not, to hit a nerve of relatability in every sentence and draw either a story or an expansion of a notion out of a person is really mind blowing to me. Thats such a deadly and rare skill.
Did anyone else catch that at the end? Chuck mentions when something is interesting, people don't become speechless, they will compete and try to tell a better story using the same idea. As he finishes this thought, Joe responds, "Interesting... there are parallels in comedy..." (as if about to tell a competing story)
Depends. I think the Harry Potter author would have gotten "cool idea" reactions and not really real experiences and stories from those at the parties that can relate. Fight club is about something everyone can resonate to
You do not ask questions about project mayhem.
Wow, it flew over his head and mine. Very enlightening
Irony at its absolute fucking finesttt
Joe is a regular 100 IQ guy. Sometimes, I wish he'd stop trying to relate everything to his lowbrow life interests. It always seems to take away from his intellectual guests' message. Maybe it's just me.
It really astonishes me how many people miss the mark about Fight Club. It is a cautionary tale, not a celebration of nihilism.
Weird thing about our reality. It's usually both.
Exactly but people really feel smart just taking in the nihilistic parts. I mean just look at the comments
I imagine nihilists don't care
in another interview chuck calls it a love story. a modern version of great gatsby. is it possible that a story can be more then just 1 thing? Snuff, rant and choke are also worth a reading! brilliant writer and storyteller!
@The MacSo you show me how I don't wanna be like no shade. Still figuring it out
Damn, as a 21 year old this is helping me realize that the issues I’m going through are similar to every other guy that’s entering adulthood
@Thomas Dellabarca thank you!
Enjoy your life brother. Pause to breathe.
@Thomas Dellabarca Or you'll just have a boring life.
Same my guy. So glad I found this movie when I did
@@pauljames1807 you sound fun to be around
Fight club and matrix were way ahead of their time...
Fight Club wasn't necessarily ahead of its time as it was incredibly relevant back then.
...It just happens to be more relevant now.
2 of my all time favorite movies
And both were written by LGBTQ+ people, how about that?
Two terrible films
The creators time traveled. We're not going past 2050.
Fight club really scratches that itch as a man in the US in 2018. This guy is brilliant
Keep scratching.
So true
Men arent allowed to be men. Masculinity is a bad word now. Men have been and will always be agressive by nature. Its what testosterone does. Traditionally, young boys and men have found ways of channeling that into creativity. Not anymore. Now its young men being raised by single mothers to hate themselves.
@@mrpink3338 Things go in cycles this next payement is gonna be brutal.
You know Tyler Durden is wrong in the end, right?
I grew up watching fight club in my teen years. It taught me alot. Not to let material possessions control you (the things you own, end up owning you). Not to be a slave to society (an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables - slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. )
its so relevant now man irs crazy
Durden told us what was in the deep mist, so that we understand nearly 20 years later..
“It was beautiful we were selling rich women their own fat asses back to them”
Also, don't be a mindless rebel conspiracy theorist prick either.
You know whats really crazy? That stuff was already told 200y ago by a beardy man called Marx. And he goes way deeper than fight club (philosophically) with all this. Its really worth to read. It helps alot to understand how modern societies work. ✊🏽
“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.”
So The Mellenial/genZ generation then
@@DaraGaming42 And GenX.
@@DaraGaming42 They dont count, we are the last of our tribe.
@@partymanauno, early gen z (right after millenials) were some of the toughest people i've met. Late gen z and gen a aren't like us
@@mingus445_gaming and why are those kids tough? They are the kids of Gen X. While the quote is perfect for Gen X (it's target), if you add the word "influencer" to the lineup, it can also work for the current social media generation.
Damn he just put into words what every young man nowadays feels. It all makes sense!
It was on the tip of everyone's tongue. Tyler and I just gave it a name.
Movie didn't resonate with me at all
@@NickGreiner1988 don’t care
@@NickGreiner1988 You're the only free thinker in these comments
@@sinenomine3652 😏
You are not your comment post.
You're not you're like. You are not your sub count.
Genius
FatMat426 lol
The first rule of the comment section is that you do not talk about the comment section.
Best comment possible for this video, respect
Middle children of history, no Great War or depression. Our depression is our lives.
Cringe
Our great war is a spiritual war.
@@TxxT33 absolute truth indeed. "Only the dead have seen the end of the war." Plato
Therefore, the oppression that flows from further up the (social) pyramid. Is and seems to be carried across many generations in a well disguised platform. Sure am glad this isn't my home, planet earth, spiritual battleground.
Well there is a war but it's being ignored.
I'm 35 years old and have been out of the Marine Corps for years at this point; yet one moment of pride will never leave my heart. We had a Senior Drill Instructor who trained us as young recruits, he definitely fit the spot of that father role for all 70 of us marine recruits. Sadly he was called to the front lines as he was a Recon Marine and we got a new SDI who trained us very well. At the end of our time in boot camp, we came into the Final Drill event, where we placed 2nd place in the last event. We killed it, we got first place and we felt amazing, we knew right when we finished we did amazing. As we march back to the barracks, we are informed that a guest is waiting for us. We see in the barracks waiting for us, a battle injured SDI who has returned to San Diego due to getting shot. He witnessed our 1st place final drill and got to witness what we were trained to become.. After all the struggle and training, months and months of mastering a craft.. He let us know with a smile on his face, tears in his eyes, and the loudest most proudest Marine you'd ever imagine, of how proud he was of all of us and the Marines we now are. I never felt prouder in my life.
Semper Fi Marines
Eat shit jarhead
“The few, The proud” stay strong and thank you for your service
Wonderful story. Shipping out 09/11/23 🫡
I'm an Army Infantry vet and our Drill SGTs fit this bill too. Thank you for your service.
i appreciate your service
Fight Club, Dead Poet’s Society AND Good Will Hunting.
@Shahaan Singh no male bonding in Good Will Hunting ? Are you kidding? Fighting as a group against another group of guys, working construction, hanging out in the neighbourhood, father issues, girlfriend issues, emotional issues, life decisions etc etc etc etc.
Dude, you really should watch it again, seems like it may have went over your head...
@@SatanDynastyKiller Yes you are correct Good Will Hunting is a great addition for male existential angst and bonding.
@Shahaan Singh what about the fact that what Will wanted to do and did with his time was" Why does Will hang out with a bunch of stupid Gorillas? Because anyone of them would take a bat to your head if he asked them to. That's loyalty." Robin Williams Good Will Hunting.
@Shahaan Singh you should definitely watch again.
2 of which Robin Williams played great roles in
Amazing to see these two chatting about Fight Club. In Tyler we trust.
Thanks bro
@@eqsmooth nah he read the book without noticing the crucial plot point.
On Chuck's website, he regularly has tons of recommendations. A lot of similar dark and gritty stuff
It's ironic how many people idolize the character of Tyler without realizing that's exactly the opposite point of the book's themes. No, you should not trust in Tyler. He represents values of 'freedom' and masculinity, but manifested in all the wrong ways. He is the opposite extreme, which is equally as hindering as the corporate/cultural slave side (as the narrator finds out at the end, he's a prisoner of his own creation). A balance needs to be sought. Neither extreme will offer you a good end.
We are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world.
That secondary father bit explains why so many of my friends got super religious after we hit our twenties
ive never thought about it like that.
Holy shit that explains a lot
Same thing happened to me.
@@technimechanical I disagree, religion is finding spirituality. Mindless is not having an open mind to try and understand that there's more to this life.
@@a619ko religion and spirituality are two completely different things. And there is nothing more to this life wanna know why? Because we have made sure that there is nothing more and allowed ourselves to be manipulated and controlled and ruled over by other people.
This interview is incomplete. Joe Rogan should have told Chuck "I want you to hit me as hard as you can."
I remember walking out of the theatre after seeing it for the first time. I was 16, and into martial arts and action/kung fu movies. When in to see it with a like minded friend just because it was called "Fight Club", we didn't have any idea what we were getting ourselves into. Oh boy, was our mind blown, I can clearly remember my friends face, eyes wide open, with the biggest "wtf did I just watch" expression, my face was pretty much the same. This movie showed me venues of lives i didn't now existed, let alone avoid. The first movies that showed me what "subverting expectations" really means, it made me think for myself and planted some of the seeds for some of mine first truly original ideas. What a movie! And also I was introduced to Edward fucking Norton!
He was really good in American history X before that too!
Chuck is my favorite author. I read fight club and couldn't get enough of his writing style. Amazingly dark and humorous. Absolutely brilliant writer.
I'd recommend anything he's written.
Nos
The comic?
if you like him read vonnegut. its also dark satire, chuck bows to the master.
He will write your obituary
Idk about brilliant...def entertaining
I like Chuck but if he's your favorite author you need to read more
"You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all part of the same compost pile. Our culture has made us all the same. No one is truly white or black or rich, anymore. We all want the same. Individually, we are nothing." - Tyler Durden, Fight Club.
WOW....quotes from the book! you are too cool man....
It's weird. When I put these sunglasses on that quote just says "Give Up".
Except that quote come from a pathetic narcissistic guy who has to imagine himself as what he envisions as an alpha male. It's a delusion of grandure that ultimately causes his self destruction and near suicide.
Tyler quotes honestly make me cring a lot. Because he is a villian and is supposed to be this psychotic and pathetic figure and yet you have people admiring him like a hero.
That’s just a quote for people who accept the fact they will never have more than 700,000 in their bank account
Do you know what makes me cringe? Whenever someone calls someone else a "snowflake".
In my 42 years on this planet, Fight Club is still my all time favorite movie.
I just watched Fight Club for the first time a couple of days ago, and I was totally blown away. I am a 21yr old guy, single, new to Uni, new in a big town etc the whole thing you get it. Anyway, I felt like that Movie spoke to me on a personal level. I guess a lot of guys felt like that. Hell, I am probably just as much part of the target demographic as a lot of other guys. But the resounance it had on me, with my personal experience...
It didnt change me completly or something like that, but rather influenced and validated my believes and the man I started to become.
Joe pointing out the parallel in comedy shows the exact process he was referring too
Ben That’s deep
Can you elaborate?
@@siddharthnaik2361 he’s saying the fact he brought up comedy after the anecdote thought, proves what he just said. That truly good anecdotes evoke competing anecdotes. Rogan’s “competing anecdote” was relating it to comedy.
@@SV-ed4qn dayum son you smart af
His name.........is robert paulson
Dylan Rosser only in death do you have a name
His name is Erik Paulson.... he'll rip your arm off catch style.
Dylan Rosser his name is meatloaf
@@Balon-Breakspear his name is.... Bitch tits
His name is Rich Russell. The baggage handler at Seatac that stole a plane, week before last. Sky King!
"I am Jack's colon, I get cancer, I kill Jack." Lol
No Fear. No Distractions. The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide.
"I wanted to destroy something beautiful"
I was in high school in 99, fight club changed the game and my life. Everyman that has blood coursing through his veins loves it.
every time he talks it sounds like he's clicking a pen
KewkehMonstuh so true 😂
Now I can’t I hear it
Jesús it bothered me throughout the whole video after seeing this comment
Lmaooooo holy shit
omg i can't not hear it now
My secondary father died earlier this year. Alone in his home. Heart failure. But he loved me and i will always have that. And a massive family of other kids he took off the street and schooled in cooking cleaning and hygine. He taught me right from wrong in the darkest of circumstance. RIP Liam. Xx
RIP to your dad ❤
@@bw-rx1qd holy f.... thats creepy i just woke up from a dream in which my actual dad just died. Still shaken. Then i see my notifications on my phone and its this message. I am spooked. Thanks though bro.
Never thought I'd see the day Chuck makes a guest appearance on the Joe Rogan show...what a world. :,)
You don't think much then?
really? Like seriously? Youve gotta get out more home slice...all kinds if things happen out there.
They’re breaking the rules...
AmY ! 😆
😂👌👊
🤣🤣🤣🤣
sssh!
Only the first two.
In Sept of 2015 I lost What I thought was the love of my life. I heard a voice say "once you lose everything, you're free to do anything". Chucks writing saved me.
I just watched this movie last night and it is life changing. I resonated with the second father analogy. Apprenticeship.
All I know is that they breaking the first rule...and the second
I have no idea what rules you're referring to
Laws are for the lawless.
All three of you need to shut the fuck up. Don’t talk about that shit.
Yes don't talk about sight cloud
No Empathy 211 those rules were made to get you used to breaking rules
Every year or two somebody comes with a new angle to analyse Fight Club, another layer to peel off, I love those videos, it's so rich with meaning.
U rocked this interview. Great guest and this book/movie changed my life years ago. Thank you both for doing this podcast.
The "Secondary Father" is a very strong and qualified concept. I can attest to this, as someone who grew up with a very smart, loving, religious, amazingly understanding father, but also respecting a father figure that encompassed similarly respectable features, but was stronger in features that my birth father did not have- abrasive, secular, dry, and unforgiving. I did not lose respect for my father, but it gave me a new and very important perspective on many things that I did not get with my birth father. I am forever grateful to both my father and the secondaries that I had that made me who I am today.
I'm a single-serving friend.
Clever. How's that working for you?
“I’m Jack’s complete lack of surprise”
Clever
I would like your comment but you're already at 69!
Well yeah, there's always that?!
Saw Fight Club, In the Cinerama Dome Hollywood. Opening night, on my 29th birthday. I returned to see it four more times. It was a seminal moment for men my age. Great book too (almost identical to the film).
One of the best conversations I've listened to in years! So many important points in here.
It was on the tip of everyone's tongue. Tyler and I just gave it a name.
Wow. Perfect quote
I remember I saw it in the theater. My friends had to drag me to go see it bc I thought it was going to just be another dumb action movie. I was blown away once I saw it!!! It's still one of my favorite movies of all time!
Read one of his books! His mind is crazy
Since it's release I've been searching for a Tyler Durden type of bath robe at the thrift stores.
Any luck?
Tyler would mock you for being so materialistic.
This interview was made in heaven for Joe to be part of. Outstanding quality of questions and knowledge on the topic, just a joy to watch and listen to, both of them.
I'm a woman who has always loved me despite not having a father in my life and I love that Chuck mentions Dead Poets Society, Karate Kid and Officer in this discussion. Along w FC I always adored those stories and saw all many, many times. I was entranced with the depiction of the male experience in all of them. This makes me love Chuck even more.
Fightclub is one of those few cases where you go in and watch and being different afterwards... it really added to your view on life. I really envy the myself not yet have seen it just to experience it once more!
Though this movie didn't impact me at first as I was still a teenager when I first saw it, over the years it has Really hit home. This is just one of those stories we really need to keep around and really consider what is being told within it. We live in a time and place where the "morals" of this story can really help us as individuals and as a society. Also I find it odd that over the years the film/book seems to have been forgotten, at least within my group of people.
Not only is it being forgotten slightly, but society is trying to tell men that its problematic for us to like fight club. "Something something toxic masculinity etc"
@@callanc3925 depends on why you like it, there are people who take the message the wrong way and are definitely toxic people
17 now i do get some of the stuff from it but to be honest i don't understand it at all and i was actually thinking i would understand it more in coming years
@@bryson0206 that's definitely fair, I may do a rewatch in the future and change my stance on it
Joe That's a huge part of martial arts Rogan
Officer and A Gentleman part of the segment. WOW! Spot on!!!
Joe is so lucky to be able to talk and interview this person...he’s an amazing writer
Do you like gay people
@@angelus1738 🤓
I am Jack’s palpable enthusiasm.
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It’s just as relevant and hard hitting in 2022 as it was in 1999. An unforgettable story.
“I say lets never be complete, I say lets stop being perfect.... Lets evolve. Let the chips fall where they may....” -Tyler Durden The best quote from Fight Club...pure genius
Met Chuck Palahniuk on tour for Invisible Monsters in 2007. I went on to pursue a journalism degree partly because of the inspiration I felt from that talk. He’s so insightful
I never had a father or a father figure. I filled that void by becoming a father myself. I am the father I always wished I had for myself.
"Martha's polishing the brass on the Titanic, its all going down." My favorite quote of the film.
His newest book, “Adjustment Day” is a novel that will haunt you. It’s written under the name “Talbott Reynolds” Not Chuck Palahniuk. Be seen carrying the book it will save your life.
Except not many people are reading it. And it, like Fight Club, is satire. Although maybe it needs to happen looking at some of these comments. (Chuck's name is on the jacket, and on the paperback... don't make it sound so cryptic)
Can you tell me more about it?
I want to get into these books.
I'm about halfway through. Its pretty good, with some Fight Clubby undertones. The secondary father bit is included. It had some bad reviews though
It started off good in my opinion. First third I whizzed through, enjoyed it and learned alot. Second third got a bit boring, last third I gave up, just didn't care about the characters, i might check wiki just to see what happens in the end
Joe "I do comedy" Rogan
Mark R I think he may or may not have been involved in MMA too for a bit but I’m not sure 🤔
Meanwhile he is the unfunniest successful comedian of all time
Mert Su he has a a few Funny bits. The dudes workin out.
Men of any age can relate to this movie. As you watch it as you get older you understanding and interpretation evolve. A masterpiece
Saw the movie and then read the book in one day...
Been a fan ever since...
"There are so few social models or stories for men"
Yeah, that's why we read graphic novels and play video games. Because that's where they are covered in underlying tones.
he said men, not kids
@@williambos4410 So, in your world, only children read graphic novels and play video games? 😂
@@williambos4410 fuckin boomer lmao
Hercules and Greek mythology. Study that. You should live like a hero. Allot of valuable gems in those timeless mythology's.
@@Remrant88 dude, no
Fight club for me and my friends made a big impact. My father showed the movie to me when I was maybe 12 and I re watched it as a late teen early 20’s and when I got my first apartment I would always have “fight club” playing on my tv when my boys would come over. I boxed growing up but most of my friends had never been in a fight in their lives. So that summer 2017 I taught them all how to fight in my backyard at my first apartment. We’d get drunk and fight all day and night and watch that movie. It was a great summer and that’s when we became men. 😂
Fight Club is an amazing film and the philosophy behind it really resonates with me. It made me think so much about life, one of my favorite movies.
My secondary father was my first sergeant major. At the time he held the record for the highest mountain rescue off Mount Everest. Imagine what that does to a impressionable young man confidence when your surrounded daily by great men. 🙌🏼
@@Scotsmanic69you loser! No!
Guest: *says literally anything*
Joe: "Well, the amount of raw data we are taking in on a daily basis...."
"growing up with martial arts..."
This interview was quite good!
Wow, the secondary father comments are beautiful. I totally experienced this with my dad. Then a different person named Jack and now it's a split between my dead and some other mentors. What great insight.
100% my favorite movie of all time! Fight club was a masterpiece!
2:32
I would argue that Lord Of The Flies is also up there.
Oscar Clarke for sure
*to call it “impactful” would be a MAJOR understatement*
This film was astounding and I watched it many times.
Wow! I didn’t know that Chuck Palahniuk was on the podcast. He was a superhero to me when I was a teenager and I totally forgot about him until now. I can speak a bit of English now so I should go buy the English versions of his masterpieces.
Haven't watched Fight Club in about a year, need to revisit again soon methinks.
Rewatch it every 6 months. It is necessary
It’s kinda interesting how all the movies that are out there fight club is my favorite,
Taking on an apprentice in my business. It’s going to be an honour to teach him and watch him excel
Yo Joe, you broke the first rule
Fight Club is what got me into reading almost 20 years ago. "They make books like THIS?!" Been reading non-stop since.
any recommendations?
4:00 love this part. I realized that when I was younger that I needed a second father figure to be tough and guide me
this man single handedly saves the men of our generation. Props to him for creating some of the toughest men i've seen
Great convo!!!!
Fight club changed America forever.
The movie did. Yes.
Did it?
Did it actually?
@@ken_caminiti get high and read the book ya dangus. The movie sucks
Click This they’re both extremely well made. I enjoyed both the book and the movie.
Remember seeing this in the theatre with my brother and best friend. No one else in the theatre but us. Made it all the more insane.
A few things I love about Fight Club.
The anti-consumerist and anti-corporation themes.
The cathartic release of violence and how masculinity is tied to it. (Which is the reason why I love MMA)
How society uses consumerism to suppress our masculine and primal instincts.
Saw this movie for the first time ever when I was 14 or so around the year 2008- 2009 and it hit me straight across the face and has been my favourite movie ever since just resonates through my soul on how I relate perfectly to this movie
Fight Club is the movie that ranks amongst the best, OF ALL TIME.
"Go home people"... And then they walk down the basement of Louie's Tavern..."Welcome to Fight Club..."
That's it!
"I'm fuckin Lou, who the fuck are you"