Is There Beauty in Rock Bottom? (Fight Club Philosophy)
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- Опубликовано: 22 дек 2022
- Fight Club explores the notion of Rock Bottom. The journey to enlightenment, for Tyler, begins only at Rock Bottom. But what is rock bottom ? Is there beauty in it? Lets explore. Support my youtube journey below:
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“Having nothing doesn’t mean you own nothing. It means nothing owns you.”
Everytime I see fight club, Its like a new movie
I couldn't agree more. I learn something new every time
I have watched Fight Club 7 times the past month
Absolutely!
Bro your blind. That is literally the same with a lot of movies
Alzheimer's ahh comment
Fight Club plays with some of my deepest anxieties and I've always felt that hitting rock bottom is just the push i need to REALLY start living. For example, if i just ruin my whole face up with permanent scratches, i can finally stop caring about my looks. If i throw away my most valued possessions, i can finally stop being attached to these material things. This is precisely the feeling Fight Club reminds me of. The beauty of rock bottom
Tyler, no doubt, was on to something. The things you own end up owning you. Shed your possessions and consumer mindset, hit rock bottom, and live free!
Don’t forget the message of the second half of the movie where you end of taking this nihilism shit too the extreme lmfaooooo. It’s good not to give a fuck but at some point the abyss stares back at you.
@@alexnahan969 Yes exactly. The movie is trying to show what kind of extreme levels this discontent can unfortunately push people towards. Since you quoted Neitzche, the movie literally shows the characters turning into Nietzsche's metaphorical "lion" (negative outcome) instead of the metaphorical "child" (positive outcome).
@@uhtredsonofuhtred2867 You nailed it
@@bizarrebreakdownsThe irony of telling people this from your device that’s connected to the internet.
We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like.
Listening to someone speaking without any annoying music underneath, so nice and peaceful.
Glad to hear you say this man. I was debating adding music or something else, but now I know!
Dude, absolutely don't. You know how people often comment to videos like "Can't watch because of the annoying music", I've never seen anyone give the opposite remark. This is the way to go if you ask me, less is more. If you do, keep it minimal. At best music should carry your message, never be 50/50 partners with it like in so many videos. People yearn for calm in all the noise. @@bizarrebreakdowns
@@profundus8946 less is more. Done deal!
I agree that you don't need music. Some videos do, but I like being able to focus on the words and not being moved by music.@@bizarrebreakdowns
@@bizarrebreakdowns ya but do what you wanna do. If you think music suits a video go for it. profundus sounds like a guy that needs to let go.
I was in rock bottom all of 2023, the good thing about being at rock bottom is that the only way out is up.
yesss brother!!!
As a massive fight club ideology devotee and applying the basics in life. I am at rock bottom too, a perfectly narrated video man! Kudos to you!
Thank you Nikhil. Really do appreciate it. More coming soon!
Only after disaster can we be resurrected.
It is an inherent theme in the hero's journey. Something always needs to die for something else to be reborn.
Rock bottom is experienced by the narrator at the very end of the movie when he shoots himself.
It's the same with Stark in Endgame, with Rose at the end of Titanic, with the destruction of the grid at the end of Tron, with the destruction of Asgaard at the end of ragnarok.
But we are alone. So best to get prepared for it- Life starts where fear ends
This was the clearest explaination of the word rockbottom used in fight club...nice job bro keep it up
Appreciate that. Thank you
When you want nothing you have everything
Nowadays smartphone and laptops own you already.
I traveled the world, living out of a backpack for 2 stright years. I started with tittle money and planed on a year. The point, I learned to live on little. Im one of the few people I know that at least acknowledged desier and does a fair job of controlling it. Moves like fight club and books like Waldens pond have done a lot for me.
Interesting, I'd love to hear more about your experience
Damn what incredible quality, I was really surprised to see you didnt have thousands of views on this
Appreciate that Jay. I’m just getting started!
You actually helped me. I’m having a hard time and you actually helped me
Glad to hear that my friend. Feel free to reach out anytime
If you look at the life of Buddha, before enlightenment, he used extreme asceticism to hit rock bottom. The story goes, he ate a single grain of rice until he could touch his spine through his stomach, rid himself of all worldly possessions and comforts. Then he had a revelation under the Bodhi Tree when he realized this wasn't the way to become enlightened, so he adopted the middle-way.
This is similar to Jack killing Tyler with a bullet to the head, rejecting Tyler's extreme pursuit of rock bottom. Interestingly, it was his love for Marla Singer that made him first rebel against Tyler. So in essence, Fight Club is a hopeful love story that love is more redemptive than ruthless nihilism. Although such a simplistic message would discount the felt human experience Jack/Tyler had in bonding & fighting other men, building community, jamming culture with the acts of Project Mayhem, and discovering that he could control the power of Tyler once he integrated his shadow.
To anyone who says "Fight Club is about nothing" or has a "juvenile message", they're simply stupid. It's deeply philosophical if you know anything about Jung, Nietzsche or Siddhartha. The goal isn't to be like Tyler. The goal is to find the middle path of Tyler's philosophy
Very interesting and well said. Thank you for sharing.
An interesting thought, but I am more inclined to believe that Fight Club is a story about the acceptance of classical values, through a small amount of ideas of nihilism, primitivism and anarchy.
@@hyrttegson What do you mean by "classical values"?
The middle path is the best path
This is the best interpretation of fight club I have ever seen. In fight club it went from one extreme way to the other. From full consumer life to the point the plan was to destroy the economy and create chaos. The point is to find that beautiful golden spot, between both of these. I believe it was when Narrator joined the fight club and he could feel alive. After project mayhem started and his friend got shot, it became too much.
There is beauty in a beautiful home, in a beautiful location you like and have chosen, in work you enjoy, in time off vacationing with family and friends to new places, on beaches, in mountains, at sea, in cities, exploring new cultures, people and food... and the list goes on.
That is so much more beautiful than sitting somewhere meditating on not wanting anything (probably because you are scared of failing) and failing to do so!
Agreed. Of course, I see the beauty in all those things. But there is also beauty in simplicity :) In having less 'stuff'.
I can do all these things without being being a wage slave like you
@@bizarrebreakdownshaving exactly what you need shelter food clothing once u step outside of that it becomes wants & desires
One of the most underrated channels ever.... Much love mn❤🔥these fight club videos are epic.... Keep doing this forever if possible....👊... Your insights are spot on....
Really needed a comment like this today. Thank you so much. I will keep going
Rock bottom is definitely a subjective experience and doesn't require the degree of extremism some movies and media portray. I emotionally had hit my rock bottom years back despite having everything else I could need in life, and through that emotional and mental low I was able to find myself on the path of self improvement. Don't stay at rock bottom, use it as the pivot point towards the right direction but never force yourself to remain in that dark spot
Preach! Well said
There’s a great deal of breakdowns of this movie online. You by far knock it out of the park man. Good work. 💪🏻
Thank you man. Appreciate you saying that. Lots more here. Enjoy the channel :)
your storytelling is so enlightening sir. we are thankful for the efforts you put in to make bizarre breakdowns happen. keep going, keep improving, you're one step closer to the top. thank you! 😄
Thank you so much for this Alex! I absolutely will :)
@@bizarrebreakdownsTHATS WHAT WE WANNA HEAR 😼
Mark my words : This channel will blow up like Tylers apartment !!
Merci mon ami. Thank you so much for saying that!
@@bizarrebreakdowns btw feel free to use any of my music for your videos. credits would be nice
@@JesuisParte will do!
A man is never as dangerous when he has nothing left to lose. Believe me, I'm close to that moment, right now.
Hang in there, same spot, at 40…. Dangerous and unpredictable are the words that come to mind right now.
Very good analysis ❤
Yes, rock bottom is freedom. You have nothing to lose
Indeed. The only place to go is up ⬆️
Best summary ive ever heard. Read the book and watched the movie more than a few times and couldnt figure out what message was. Thanks.
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah... I feel this. I dont wanna go deep into anything, but this is true af to me.
Love this, instant subscribe my gosh.
Thank you Gorjius, more to come my friend!
Nice summary 🎉🎉
I wonder if I'm hitting rock bottom yet?
I can afford to rent an apartment but I'm looking at the mountains and looking to live in my car in the mountains. The thought itself scares me but... I'm still thinking it's good to try.
Trust your instincts my friend
The rest is up to you …..
Hello from below 👋
I was low . Lowest I've ever felt. No medication either. I started seeing lights. Constant de ja vu. I felt sad but understand the beauty in it. I've often tried to experience again but not found it yet
Fight club is my favorite movie ❤ hands down !
You and me both my friend :)
The algorithm have blessed you my friend
Finally. Hard work pays off
Wow, that was a great video, I`m surprised it only has 257 views
Great video, well made
Appreciate the Olle. I'm just getting started. More to come
I have been homeless 3 times and everytime i felt better than when I wasn’t homeless.
So much so that the 3th time i made myself homeless.
Hey man, I'm doing the same thing. I'm working 66 hrs with a bed, but this is literally my life right now. 66 hours of work and a bed. Id rather be homeless again too.
Proper explanation thats what iam looking for ,
Glad you liked it
Fight club is the only book i can read over and over. I once watched the movie for weeks during a severe bout of insomnia.
I don't know about beauty, but when you got nothing there ain't much to be afraid of. Freedom through failure.
The fun fact is we all broke the first 2 rules of the Fight Club 😅
Indeed. I evicerated that rule a long time ago. lol
I didn't 😊 I haven't even watched it yet. But maybe...
Well done
Thanks Brian
I watch this video with a smirk on my face, because while we discuss how Tyler's professed insights can help us to live Christ centred lives [and I agree with you], Tyler lives a double life, where he constantly evades his responsibilities.
He says that we can be free, but he spends so much time telling other people what to do. Why is he so concerned with us, when he can be free on his own? I think that it is due to his principles being used in a toxic way, which alienates him from others, assuming that he really existed in that story.
He frees himself from worldly things, but what does he do with debt? He "tells" other people to release him of his debt, when he destroys the records. There is no consent in his free world.
He is free, but he sends in others to destroy the buildings and orders others to tend the garden. He severs ties with those, who demand that he fulfill his responsibilities...yet ties are okay, when he gives orders.
This film just gets better and better.
That line about rock bottom being boarding flights and wishing for a collision hits. Everyday I go to work. A large part of me wishes someone would run a light or a stop sign, Tbone my driver side fast enough to kill me on impact.
Life has no allure anymore. I'm working a job I hate, I've lost what little family I ever had to either cancer or dementia. No friend I ever had still contacts me, no relationship ever works. I am alone. I've already gotten rid of most of my worldly possessions. I stopped caring about anything that wasn't required to have after everyone was gone.
One day I hope I have the courage to I guess end it myself. But until then I'll keep daydreaming about that car, slamming into me and taking what's left of my pathetic life. 😞
Sounds like the only place to go is up... Your life is a gift. Don't wish it away. Keep looking for that next job opportunity, get involved in stuff (seek community). ALWAYS train and workout (the ultimate form of self-respect). Why? Because you're worth it my friend. I promise you, you are worth it. Once you're in a more stable situation, volunteer, be in service to others. You have lots to offer this world!
@@bizarrebreakdowns you're kind. But I just want it to end. I'm tired of being used by people. Jobs, volunteer work. Just sounds like being used more while the world won't offer me anything in return.
Nice video
Thank you! More to come
Fight club is about Enlightenment. When you surrender everything you have, including yourself, "nothing" will br left, which is what YOU really are.
We all want this.
i love your vids please make one about whiplash
Duly noted my friend. I love Whiplash too
Its only after we've lost everything.. we're free to do anything
Destroying ego
Spent my 20s addicted to porn, gambling and also doubting myself. I hit rock bottom, and I mean absolute... I didn't even have a driver's license till 29. I've always been good looking and I thrived off that growing up, until I started losing some of my hair early 20s. Mentality completely vanished, confidence vanished... my desire for things vanished. The scariest thing I've earned from this is that I realized how pointless this all is, life in general and all these ideas and dreams we stress over so much are all important just to us little humans. But I'm much better now, the hardest thing for me now is trying to jump back into reality and being part of the world after seeing it from such a dark place.
Joy wouldn't feel so good if it weren't for pain.
In Tyler we trust.
Omg not the ex baaks 😂
Depends.
If there is not community, do it yourself. Man up . Follow your purpose, not girls or materialism. The right people will come your way.
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When I hit rock bottom I met the rock at the bottom.
Thankyou Jesus for dying for me and giving me abundant eternal life
HALLELUJAH
I see fight club as a group of brothers who care about each other, but they do that in a way where they are hard on each other in order to save them. They are hard on each other to show there is a strong man in there. Is this realistic in the real world? Not always, but it is satire. However, it still points to many useful truths.
Id be fine without it as long u dont touch my drum set lol step brothers reference also would they be taking the clothes im wearing too? Cause that would be so peak
LOL! Step Brothers is hilarious
The sense of community. To the right and left you keep trying to create a schism. But we need to just try and understand each other and let go of what truly doesn't matter. But you want to be part of a cult that believes one way or the other then you are depriving yourself of a full life. Don't see religion, don't see political ideology, don't see all the divisions. We are all alone on this blue rock. Alone from the universe. But right here right now we do have each other.
I am currently going through my rock bottom.. After years of struggling in silence, while professionally and personally uplifting people.. I just cracked. For years, I struggled with anxiety, depression, isolation, and even bits of paranoia and fear... Only a couple of months ago I hit a breaking point (in retrospect it was clear it was coming, months leading up to that I was suffering through mini breakdowns). That night, I lashed out against my only friend. I threatened them, said terrible things to them, and then damaged their vehicle in a fit of rage. I immediately regretted my action, told them to call the police on me.. etc I ended up arrested, and in some legal and financial trouble. Now? I am at the lowest point in my life. I feel such intense shame, guilt, regret, humiliation..... Yet, it helped me see my life was going in an endless cycle of downward spirals. Perhaps, in a way now I am free. IT IS DIFFICULT.. I am closer to calling it quits than ever, but I know if I can survive this.. in a years time I will be stronger than ever. I will regain my honor, and find my redemption.
Well I’m sorry to hear about your troubles. That’s quite the story. I’d say you’re at the perfect point to turn your life completely around. Rest assured you will get through this, change your life, and find redemption and solace.
@@bizarrebreakdowns I appreciate that! I hope so! My mind goes back and forth, and sometimes I have my doubts.
@@ThrawnIsaiah122 You and me both friend. You're ALWAYS worth it
Been there, done it, don't even have any of the T-shirts left. Yawn!
If Apple, John Deere, and every other company has their way...
You will own nothing and be happy
Support the right to repair movement
As a catholic, these concepts are like 1+1 to me.
You might like my vids on fight club and god :)
This is our lives and its ending up one minute at a time ! Let it Go !
You should do Johnny silverhand.
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Thank you. Please enjoy the rest of the channel :)
Its sad how alone so many are in an age where we have so much. Technology has actually divided us and modern politcs has too in many ways especially in how you point out many rely on the government. It is sad how many women you find who are single are married to politics and the government. Sure there are bad dudes who push them that way, but they should be wise enough to know with patience they can find a good man. There is good out there. We just have to patiently look for it. There is such a lack of community these days. Not to say it use to be perfect in the old days, but its worse now.
Couldn't agree more Chris
100 %
I'm currently in rock bottom
Now it’s time to go up ⬆️
PLEASE READ, I NEED HELP. I really want to adopt this, I know this is fiction, but I really want to adopt this philosophy; but how am I gonna lost everything on purpose just to follow this philosophy?, reminds me to something jesus says “left everything you own and serve me”, it’s simple at all, but should I take it literally or just as a metaphor?, and if this is a metaphor I don’t understand it
Remember, Tyler Durden is not a hero... his philosophy is flawed. All you should take from this is that you need to simplify your life. Declutter, get rid of excess. Don't blow up your condo! lol
We all know that we are very very pissed off.
His name is Robert Paulson
"I understand. In project mayhem we have no names but in death a member of project mayhem has a name."
I feel like that kind of lifestyle is only for people who are alone.it would bw hard to live as free as that if you have someone like children you need to support
Completely agree. Your wife probably doesn't wan't to raise a child in the FC paper street mansion. At the end of the day, it's about balance :)
My life has been built (pun intended) on this philosophy. Im free! Rock bottom doesn't mean "as bad as it can possibly get" to me. It means i own myself! I'm not held down by what society thinks i should be or the grip social media has on people. Each day is liven like it could be my last. My eyes are open.
My eyes are open! Love that. Exactly what the narrator said to Tyler at the end of the movie.
you live like it could be your last day, but what exactly do you do? do you not rest or sleep? are you running around climbing on walls?
6 months ago the woman I planned to marry left without warning ... I lost my apartment .. my friends bailed ... 6 weeks ago I ended up on the street .. I'm 32 and everything I worked so hard for was gone in a few months ... However ... In the last 6 months I got jacked and see the world and my life much clearer ... For the 1st time in my life ik what's important to me and what isn't ... I saved 4k for a van and I'm going to do van life ... Get back into boxing and maybe start another business ... It's been soul crushing at times but the person I have become through that journey is priceless
I recently hit bottom, but it's not my bottom. It's my top.
Tyler may have had some points.
That said, I'm getting my CDL now to bring that top higher.
Ok everyone is always talking about rock bottom and taylor himself says “it’s only after we lose everything that we are free to become whatever we want” BUT nobody really talks about where or how you go after rock bottom and nobody talks about hitting rock bottom multiple times over extended amount of time like what Fiona Apple says “You get dragged down to the bottom so many times that it just seems like that's the safest place to be” maybe our whole life is supposed to be rock bottom after rock bottom that there’s no REAL rock bottom you know? I hope someone gets me
Good point. We have to remember that fight club is just a movie. The real world implications of rock bottom are not good. I think for the narrator, it was just a matter of shedding his consumer/corporate identities, getting rid of his posessions including his tv, his clothes, his furniture... and getting back to the basics
Youll own nothing and be happy
Yup. Very concerning
LOSE EVRYTHING AND LET GO
Title kinda sounds like "you will own nothing and you will be happy". You work for the WEF?
I'm simply explaining Fight Club's anti consumerist message... what happens when you identify yourself with the things you own. Forget the title, focus on the substance bud.
@@bizarrebreakdowns Just kidding.. Film or book - which is better?
@@user-mb9ll9wy6g IMO the book is always better than the movie! Though I do like the movie's ending better than the book's
@@bizarrebreakdowns Agreed 👍
So what you're saying is... own nothing and you'll be happy
Not at all. I'm saying let go of attachment. Don't be an overconsumer.
Nice channel need video editor and thumbnail designer? I am will love to edit videos for you also a movie lover
That would be awesome. I could use the help
@@bizarrebreakdowns share your mail so we can chat
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why does tyler pee in food? why didnt he received the narrators call? why does tyler make people watch explicit scenes while the film is going?
All excellent questions. This calls for another video!
theres not
Honestly, there's truly no beauty in it. If one could choose, they wouldn't choose to hit rock bottom, I'm sure. Yes there are lessons learned, or new skills acquired, like eating food you might not have eaten before because it's the only one you could afford or get from a food bank for instance, but other than that, there's no beauty in misery. And let's stop romanticizing poverty, or misery, because it's the true hell on earth being in rock bottom. Trust me.
I’m in no way romanticizing it. Fight club if anything is a movie about balance, reiterating your exact point. If you watch more of my videos you will see this.
I wasn't exactly referencing you, but it was a general direct response to the title, and for most part, directed to the viewers/readers. I might consider watching your other videos.
I need a Playstation 5. 😬
you got it all wrong. read nietzsche. fear of alone, dark? will to community? oh my god..thats the opposite of films whole point to be a free INDIVIDUAL, not another sheep in sheep community,family,friends,bonds..all weak people need/crave others to survive bcs they are weak like jack in films start. lOve,coMpaSsiOn,coMmunity.. all for women or those emasculated men.. fight club is a club that seeks to create free strong independed unattached individuals, not another sheep-mass society.....everyone interprets fight club from its own perspective/character but just.. presented interpretation is more like opposite of independent ubermench, individual above weak mass.. so many weak non nietzscheian interrpetations of fc.. sad
You missed the point brother. Fight club is a love story. One man’s search for intimacy. Check out my video essay on this. PS, Project mayhem created sheep like individuals. It stripped individuals of their name, identity and turned them into parroting droids meant for sacrifice… check out my
Video essay on this as well.
I love this AI-script
AI script... That hurts. It takes me weeks to write, voice and create these my friend.
@@bizarrebreakdowns don't sweat it. It's an AI-comment
@@bizarrebreakdowns you are not your AI script
You are not your editing
You are not your RUclips channel
@@wesss9353 you're all the uploading, viewcounting crap of the world. We're all part of the same algorithm heap.
Rubbish. Bizzare Breakdowns" is a content provider, making very weak points interpreting what Chuck Palahniuk;s satire was about.
Agreed...
Rock bottom is beautiful....
The only place to go is onwards and upwards!
Hit bottom and spend the rest of your life impressing yourself 😳
Factual
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