Firstly give Doug way too much credit and secondly you're going to find a lot of cars that just so happened to be sellable on his auction. In the end it really doesn't matter if the prices go up or whatever, it just matters that they move!
At this point, this is more of a meme rather than his true influence on the car market. Don’t get me wrong I really like Doug and his takes but his influence is greatly exaggerated
Funny that Doug mentions a few cars I have had some experience with. 1. I bought an LS460 2008 new from the Lexus showroom, and still drive it today (14 years old). Still drives great. Have maintained all along meticulously (also with relatively low mileage) and despite some niggles in the 07-09 models, still worth owning. It’s hard to justify replacing because my LS is still so comfortable, smooth and reliable. Verdict: winning. 2. My wife drove a 2008 VW Touareg bought new, and we drove it for about 6-7 years. First years were fine, but expensive parts/service and lots of little issues. Depreciated like crazy and sold it for a song. 2010- models look much better. Verdict: should have bought a Land Cruiser 3. I bought a cheap Mercedes G320 and spent a lot fixing it up. Drivetrain has been rock solid, very comfortable to drive, BUT tons of issues with electronics, central locking system, comfort features. It’s a bit of a money pit and not sure if I can recoup what I put it. But still, a cool, capable car. My hope to is to get it up to 100% condition and then keep indefinitely. Prefer the V6 for efficiency. Verdict: jury is still out. 4. Classic Toyota Century is very high on my wish list. They come up for sale in Dubai for $15-20K. Tempting! Btw all these cars were driven in Dubai, with extreme weather, heat etc. Your experience may vary depending on your location.
@@eaauto6182 haha I actually have a 2019 Cayenne in the US. Also have an old 1999 S8 and 2010 LR4 in Dubai. Next on my watchlist: AM Rapide, AMG GT, M6 GranCoupe, Flying Spur, 1991 560SEL, Toyota Century or 2015 S8. All used, of course (thank you, gods of depreciation). And of course I am always on the hunt for a 911; ideally a Turbo S. All these cars are significantly cheaper (used) in Dubai than in the US. The irony of all this is I spend 99% of my time in Saudi, where I don’t even have a car! 😂
@@masoodrazaq Nicee bro we have like the same taste in cars lmao the Rapide and Turbo S are great choices I have an E350 cabrio and on the hunt for a 100 series LX or Land Cruiser
@@eaauto6182 Can never go wrong with Land Cruisers! 80 and 100 series are probably my favorites, although 60 is also cool. There’s also a retro Land Cruiser they sell in the Middle East called the 76 series. Used a lot my military and police. It’s sort of like a Japanese G Wagen
2005-09 avalon limiteds are very underrated, heated and cooled driver and passenger seats, rain sensing wipers, keyless entry, push start, auto headlights, radar cruise control, reclining rear seats, electronic driver and passenger seats, rear AC, NAV, and a 3.5l 280hp v6, only downside is FWD or an upside depending on who
I own a ls460, so far the best car I ever had. Bought it a bit under priced due to minor fixing needed, did all job myself and the car is running perfectly. Already put 5000 Kms on it, and it's a joy to drive and from the silence I get in the back seats it's a joy for my kid and wife too! They are even cheaper in EU than the price tag you mentioned here.
@@Slenderman63323 1.64 euro per liter, I do mostly highway & campaign road trips with it so it's viable (11-13L/100km). If you do city trips, that would hurt way more indeed.
I know Doug doesn’t like the Infiniti brand, but one more to add is the 2006+ M45. The V8 4.5L is extremely reliable. You can find really good low mileage examples for way under 15k.
+Hao Ni Depends on where you live. Here in Bavaria in Germany you get them even cheaper than what Doug mentioned. Because here in the Alps they are still mostly used as Work Horse. Not as "Beverly Hills Celebrity Car" like in the USA. And yeah that includes the G63 ones Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
I’d also add the first gen (in US) Hyundai Genesis 4.6 to the list, easily had under 10k, great performance for the money and bulletproof drivetrain. The biggest problem I had with my 160k+ mile example was the backup camera not working and I fixed it for $100. I drove it cross country and beat on it and it simply wouldn’t break.
4 years ago I fell into a silver 2004 Lincoln Town Car that the owners son was trying to prepare for sale. She was 79 and quit driving and it sat unused in the garage. It needed detailed and a LOT of maintenance and both bumpers refinished. $3200 made it mine and that's a lot of car for pocket change. Plus with an expected half million mile lifespan - it should be reliable and cheap to keep that way.
Just be careful. The drivers side sun visor has been known to come loose inadvertently, and Fall down bonking drivers off the head and rendering them unconscious which could then cause you to lose control and crash. Other than that, they're a fine automobile. 👌
I still vote for Lincoln Town Cars. Doug did a pretty good video about them a few years ago. Sure, they're getting long in the tooth ...but they still make the best value proposition so far as I can see. They're reliable. Durable. Get good gas mileage (23/24 mpg) and take regular, not premium gas. It's also cheap and easy to find new and used parts. And cheap to insure. Moved into a 13 Lexus ES after my last Town Car. New 05 Lexus IS 300 owner here, back in the day, so I'm familiar with Lexus. Interior's already falling apart around the engine on the ES350 and parts are 2/3 times what I'd pay for the Lincoln. Gummy rubber dash, worn out leather or nuluxe bolsters and door trim. And having off gassing issues with the windshield, that's a new one on me. Don't get me wrong, Town Cars have their issues, water leaks for starters, but overall, they make for the best value proposition. That said, no girlfriend, wife, or X wife's ever said a kind word about them. That Lexus tho. lol.
Yeah, but the Lincoln is an American car, it might be cheap and easy to fix but it will develop mechanical issues over time and at high mileages where the Lexus will have none despite its age or mileage.
@@deliriousgastronomy My friend had a 1998 Town Car with 450k miles which developed a horrible rattle, and started knocking, until it jumped the timing and blew up. He maintained the car meticulously, and he always kept up on maintenance to no avail.
@@RANDOMGUY-ty3ze Who'd complain about that? lol. By then, everything's generally usually worn out anyway. Timing chain rattle was an issue with earlier last gen ones. ...getting 450K was lucky. Usually these, need either a tranny, engine, or both in the 300K to 400K range.
I would add the 1998-2011 Lincoln Town Car (and Mercury Grand Marquis) to this list. They were made in huge quantities so the cars and parts are widely available and cheap, many can still be found with extremely low mileage as a large portion of them are sold to old folks, and they were made with one of the most reliable engines Ford has ever made! I bought a 2004 LTC in 2020 with 4500 miles on the clock for only $15K. It was in brand new condition. Extremely comfortable to drive, quiet, very good mileage on the freeway given it's a V8, easy to work on, parts literally everywhere. I've seen many with 300-400K miles on them still running and on the road. They're not high tech, but they're cheap, luxurious, comfortable and run danged near forever! Any more questions? Doug has a video on this exact model!
@@bajiphotography9484 I seen someone compare to last gen town cars to the similar S class and they said the S after a lot of mileage loses its plush soft ride and becomes very bouncy and just feels different whether you service the air ride in those or not..wasnt the case with the town cars. Even at 500k miles they all ride the same granted the shocks are busted.
The LS460 is attractive price-wise, but they have a very complicated suspension system. General wear and tear on the front end can cost you about $8k just to get it up to par. I still prefer my LS430 over all just because it’s a good median between tech, comfort, and affordable reliability.
You hit the nail on the head. Yes, the 460 is probably cheap to own compared to most other luxury sedans, but it’s far more expensive to maintain than the 430 or 400. I had a 430, traded it for a 460, then went back to a 430.
You can get the 460s with both the regular or air suspension. The air suspension and the control arms on the 2007-2012 models are the ones that are very expensive to fix.
Yea a 2017 60k miles ls460 is going for almost 40k i dont know where he gets 15-20k for. Last year i was looking for a ls460 with leas than 100k miles and couldn’t find one for under 30k so i settles for a 2013 accord exL for 15k with 90k miles. Been a great car so far I have 112k on the dash. Only ask for oil and gas lol
I drove 50.000 miles (80.000 km) in my pre owned Volkswagen Phaeton GP3 so far and everything works perfectly and nothing has been wrong at all. I got it with 62.500 miles, 100.000 km on it. It likes Diesel a fair bit, but no other extra costs at all. I did get it from a licensed VW Dealer close to the factory with a good maintenance history etc. But still a giant deal considering the quality and comfort it offers. It increased in value despite the added miles.
As a past Equus owner, highly recommend! Only major issues with them are the air suspension (as is with all air suspension vehicles) and some of the early 5.0 models have oil consumption to keep on top of. Only sold it cause I wanted a gas sipper!
I had a 2012 Genesis R-Spec with the 5.0 engine. It burnt oil really bad & It had electrical problems. I got rid of it. I’ll never buy another Hyundai again. Bad car
Equus came out in 2010, the year after the Genesis sedan was released. Also, I would argue that the Grand Marquis should be on this list or even the Town Car. For what they were, they were luxury cars and if you were lucky and got one without the air ride, you're golden.
As a town car owner, I approve of this comment. The air ride suspension can be a little worrisome but other than that, it’s got a bulletproof V8 engine.
Not quite correct. Hyundai (Genesis) Equus came out in 1999 but that 1G wasn't sold in the US (or NA in general) until its second generation in 2010 model year. Almost nobody would be caught dead in a Town Car/Grand Marquis today, except my great-great-great grandmother.
Good luck finding a town car that hasn't been destroyed by a livery company. I've seen some for sale in the 700k range. Finding one under 100k or 200k will be nearly impossible.
Lexus is my all around most favorite car. Reliable because it's basically a Toyota, very comfortable and smooth ride and also has some good performance.
I bought a 2011 Equus Signature in 2015 with 50k miles. It has been a really great car. The only substantive repairs were replacing the rear air bags (common issue) and front air struts at around 100k. If you buy the parts on ebay and have an Indy install them, it's about $1200-$1500. At the dealership, LOTS more expensive. My buddy has the LS 460 from 2010. I think his seats are more comfortable, he thinks mine rides nicer. His LS gets almost 30 mpg on the highway; mine gets low-mid 20s. Both really great cars,
This comment is a good highlight of 'cheap' luxury ownership though. $1200-$1500 is not 'cheap', but 'cheap' for a luxury car. Don't buy a cheap luxury car unless you can shell out 1.5K randomly. I bet many people will watch this video and think these cars are cheaper to own than your average 4 banger Civic, Corolla, Camry, etc, but they're still in a different realm, and people should be aware of that.
@@coleswaggins I think premium gas is the last thing to worry about paying for with a cheap luxury car. most non luxury cars with turbos use premium gas too
@@eyceKoId it becomes such a burden. i was paying for premium only in 06 acura TL. due to bidenflation, i was paying $5 a gallon, and sometimes more. it really adds up. it is the last thing to worry about tho, like you said.
@@lorenzomoore6398 not true, modern jaguars are incomparable to old jaguars, and they are definitely more reliable than most bmws, jags after 1993 are solid and stopped using lucas. the 4.0s need timing chain tensioners, 4.2 thermostat housing. sometimes PR valve, the repairs are rare and not extremely costly
I bought a 2011 LS 460 with 52k miles for $26k in 2017. I have 69k miles on it now, and it rides like a dream. It's the first car I've had where every time I drive it, I think "Wow, this thing is smooth!".
Thanks Doug. As always you sure know how to pick them and I agree with everything on your list. BUT, I do own a 2017 Kia K900 (I do believe you've reviewed them in the past) and mine is the V8 Luxury model. It doesn't make your list because of it's limited production, but it does fit your criteria -- of course if you can find one.
Immediately thought of the K900 and thought it would make the list. I’ve been thinking of getting one recently. Does it have CarPlay though? He didn’t mention it in his review.
All of the feels! My old man had a ‘98 LS400, ‘03 LS430, and an ‘08 LS460. Sooooo many memories. Lost dad in 2018, but I’ll never forget his penchant for the Lexus LS. (and 7 series BMWs prior to those)
About a month ago, I picked up a 2014(W212) M-B E350 Sport 4Matic with just a tick over 60k miles for 24K. Fairly low mileage for the age and very well maintained. Very happy with it and really like the way that it drives. Quiet, smooth, comfortable and decent MPG.
I had an LX470 - it was absolutely fantastic. I ended up wanting a Truck so I sold it and bought a Tundra (which I also love) but a couple months ago I came across a local ad for a 100 series Land Cruiser, so I picked the Land Cruiser up to drive alongside the Tundra. I just love the 100 series. Only issue to really watch out for on the LX is the suspension. Different suspension than the Land Cruisers that rides better but is mega expensive if it goes out.
From my biased opinion, the 05-12 Acura RL could’ve been included in this list. The amount of technology even for today is amazing, 300HP V6, AWD and honda reliability
I have a 1st gen RL besides it having less power and certain gadgets its a nice big body Acura.2004 by the way heated mirror,heated seats,sunroof ,Nav,10 speakers, and voice commands.
One luxury sedan that's often overlooked and could be had at an affordable price is the second generation 2005-12 Acura RL. It was well equipped for the price at the time with only a couple of option packages(technology and sporty A Spec), has standard SH(Super Handling) AWD which is regarded as one of the best AWD systems on the market, a 290 hp 3.5L V6 engine(later upgraded to a 300hp 3.7 L V6 in 2009), and has the legendary Honda reliability. The only downside is that the rear seat room is slightly smaller than some competitors but it's still comfortable and the V6 still uses a timing belt which requires replacement every 90K-100K miles. Other than that, it's still a good buy.
@@hertzair1186 Thats great :D Yes they are quite big cars so gas mileage is low. I am actually looking for one since college is no longer online and I need a car to get there, it's mostly highways, so a highway cruiser like a Marquis would be nice :)
@@gucciguy3408 Go sit in a new Genesis and come back and answer your own question. Try the GV80. There's no "near luxury" there, it's a luxury car. There is no Genesis that's a rebadged and gussied up Sonata or Elantra (like Acura and Lexus do). Where things have been similar (e.g. Equus) they were already luxury vehicles. (new GV60 excepted)
@@gucciguy3408 I certainly think so, the sedan of course. It has ventilated seats, rear retractable sunshade, navigation, and adaptive cruise control. All in a 2009 vehicle. It did split away into a different luxury brand in the future to differentiate that as well
@@umakegoodcookies think he means the actual model CALLED the Hyundai Genesis which sat below the Hyundai Equus in the lineup. I think if we continue the trajectory--- the Genesis G80 is the spiritual successor to the Hyundai Genesis. But to backfill, I would say to the other guy to check one out. My grandfather had two of them, one in coupe and one sedan form and he loved them. I was too young and lived too far away to really experience much of his cars but I do remember thinking his sedan was very nice at the time.
@@devongee1776 that's probably a valid interpretation but the Genesis sedan was always clearly a luxury car. He could even have been referring to the original coupe, which was decidedly not a luxury car, even though it was a pretty good sport coupe for the time.
The only push back I would give on this list would be the lx470. It's a very nice SUV and very capable off-road. However it's also very prone to rusting issues. And the AHC suspension is also known to have many issues.
I agree with this list. The Korean brands have come a long way and it is just so amazing to see them rival Honda and Toyota as one of the best Asian imports. G-wagon holding its value after so long is also impressive!
Good to have some confirmation, I did some research last month and came up with the Lexus ES350 for a cheap-ish, reliable car, and found one about 500 miles away, so I flew there and picked it up. Small cosmetic issues, the biggest thing was they sold it with the front brake calipers frozen, after claiming to do a "Level 4" inspection. Still, $9000 ain't bad.
Here in Finland you can get Touareg still. A V6 petrol with hybrid, it costs 86-92k € before options. So it’s a good car for flying under the radar, ”yes I am rich but nobody knows”…
Been driving a 2014 Equus Ultimate for 4 years now and absolutely love it. Swapped the air suspension for some good coils for longevity, and put the stand-up hood ornament like they have in South Korea. Traded my 2014 4-door Genesis R-spec for it, and am very satisfied
I'd like to add the 1997 - 2003 Jaguar XJR. Specifically the R because of the Mercedes transmission, the normal V8 had a Jaguar box that was made of glass. There were timing chain issues with the early cars but if the car is still around now that problem has been addressed. Super comfortable, fast, and so far in the 8 or so years and 100,000km I've put on mine it's been absolutely bullet proof, and thanks to Jaguar's less than stellar reputation they are fairly inexpensive to buy, and to be honest the parts aren't that expensive
While looking 2 years ago for an LS460, I happened upon a 08 ES350 with 90k miles with full service records for $4500 from the original owner. I bought it, and have driven it to now 155k miles, and still adore it.
Volvo S80 T6 is another reliable car that can be added to this list, rare as heck but they last for ever. They are also European which a lot of people will appreciate 🔥
So for the Dutch market; - Lexus LS; 7 for sale, cheapest from 2007 starts at 25K, cheapest youngest generation actually starts at 45K (I can get a good middle class car for that price). - Lexus LX; 1 for sale, 2007 model 38K. Again; that's serious money for a 2007 car. - Hyundai Equus; Non for sale - Volkswagen Toareg; 40 for sale, cheapest is 15K, a model with less than 120K on the clock starts at 35K. Now we are getting somewhere. - Mercedes G Wagon - 180 for sale, starting at 24K, however these are the really old 1970's models. if you want younger than 15 years and less than 160K on the clock you are already looking at 50K.
Does that have the VQ37? In Australia we didn't get that VQ in the Q50... but they did put a detuned version of it in the Q70... about 315 hp... which i have... and now feel slightly ripped off... 🤣🤣 Honestly though, it's enough. It is definitely quick enough...
I HAVE to point out the Infiniti G37. I’m a sophomore in college and I bought a 2012 and paid cash for it. It’s basically a luxury 370Z, it has decent tech for the time period, it has a luxury badge, AND you can get it with a manual. Plus, the VQ37VHR is nearly bulletproof.
Kacper T Facts. W221 with the M273 engine is another really good Mercedes Engine. M113 is more reliable of the two but the M273 isn’t far off either. Those engines can go hundreds of thousands of miles. Fun Fact: There’s an 07’ S550 with the 273 engine with over 600,000 miles. That’s the most non-diesel Mercedes engine I’ve ever heard of at least.
Absolutely! I was going to say pretty much the same thing. I bought a dealer demonstrator Q70 for less than half the original retail price of it. (yes it was 2 years old with 11000 km on it... but it was only $32,000 australian,) Great car, it has been super reliable. In Australia Infiniti Q70's really didn't sell well, (i believe it was only a couple thousand over their 5 year run,) and this can be taken in two ways. Either you enjoy driving a unique car... a VERY unique car... or you can consider that it will mean it's going to be near impossible to get spare parts down the track. Thankfully they're very reliable, very comfortable... generally and genuinely a very very nice car to drive. 👍👍
I agree. I've had a QX56 for the past 6 years and I haven't really had any major issues with it besides faulty catalytic converters which are super common. I have 145k on it and it is still running strong. I also have a G25x with 175k and it still runs great. Its a VQ, but bored smaller to 2.5L. Infiniti's prime was the 2000s and early 2010s and they put out some good, reliable stuff. I wish Doug would have mentioned the Infiniti sedans/SUVs.
I’m keeping my 2009 Lexus IS250 as it has been very reliable. I maintain it regularly and it treats me tight. The mot recent thing I did was get a fuel induction cleaning as it’s direct injection. She has been a solid car for me.
Acura RLX Sport Hybrid (not PAWS), and the preceding 1st and 2nd gen RLs, should have an honorable mention. All exceptionally reliable and not expensive to maintain. Otherwise a great video!
The biggest omission on this list: Not a single Acura? Acura RL/RLX or MDX are nice. I would also wager a Cadillac or Lincoln full-size SUV will be inexpensive to maintain and own if you can afford the gas. But IMHO; the cheapest "luxury" car to own or operate has to be the Lexus ES. But I know that it isn't a true luxury car.
My 2004 Lexus LS430, that I have owned now for 10 years, is hands down the overall best and most reliable, super comfortable car I've ever owned @ 238,000mi. No oil leaks or consumption. No electrical problems and everything except for the damaged park assist and telescopic motor on the steering wheel all works. Not even the check engine light has turned on over the last 10 years, just regular scheduled maintenance.
I own an 09 Lexus es350 in very good shape with every option available. It's a lot of car for the money and an amazing daily driver. It's not as cool or as luxurious as an LS, but it's cheaper and damn do I love this car. The 3.5l V6 is so smooth. Worth looking into if y'all are looking for a used luxury sedan. Not to mention that you probably won't see the death of this car. It's extremely reliable.
That 3.5 will literally last forever. Just look on here for vids of people trying to kill them lol. 350k miles, 15k oil changes, muffler falling off from rust but it does not burn a single drop of oil lol
I was surprised not to see it on the list, I found an 07 with every option on it and 18,033 miles for fewer than 15K in late 2019 and I'm now at 75K looking to go super high. If you're talking economical, it's nice that it can get you a pretty consistent 27-28 MPH in contrast to the V8. Not as luxurious as a bigger car, but still quite comfortable with a ton of very comfortable back seat room
I would like to add the Panther Platforn Lincoln Town Car, and Mercury Grand Marquis. I'd add Crown Vic if you can find one but most are clapped police cars.
To be fair, finding a good LS 460 with no accident history and relatively low miles is difficult to find for 20k. If you've got around $25-30k, shoot for a 2013 model (it is the facelifted model).
I own a 2016 Touareg executive. It’s been a great car. Mine is a V6, very luxurious, great towing capacity, downfall is it’s horrible on gas. Would buy another in a heartbeat.
Ironically, you posted this as I put my '09 LS 460 for sale on Craigslist... one of the most reliable and comfortable cars I have owned. Hope you can get someone to go buy it with this video 🤣Thanks Doug
@@andrewdiamond2697 I wanted to however I plan on buying a new car on Thursday and I feel like the cars and bids process would’ve taken longer. Shipping the car, waiting for funds etc. also the car has 121k miles and I know most buyers on there are looking for lower mileage options.
How can you say the car is particularly comfortable? I have the same basic car - suspension is in excellent condition, and just received new Goodyear Comfort Tread tires. It really isn't much more comfortable than a mid size sedan. The car rumbles over rough pavement, hisses over concrete pavement, even small undulations are felt, and large impacts are felt as rubbery jolts to the spine. Please note I come from a line of Cadillac owners... Does your car ride at all like this? What's your experience with luxury cars? Do you read the auto press like consumer reports for help when shopping for a car?
You are definitely not finding a nice 2013-2017 LS460 for $15-20K. The cheapest I see in the country with a clean title is a 2013 with 206K miles tor $19.5K
You never go to the Acura Flagship RL. The options list on these rival the Lexus LS. The voice control, controls most features in the car like (Defost,Fan speed,driver/passenger temp,XM/AUX/RADIO/ETC, Restaurants, Navigation & more) It's not Google so you have to say it in the voice format, but it was so good it made Mercedes create Hey Mercedes. It's a 2005 forward thinking development that most car don't have today. It's more rare than most modern Lamborghini's
@@h7pubg I am not worried about them drying up. There's plenty out there. The problem is the ones in my area are clapped out, 250K mile $10K ones are all i see. Giving them exposure doesn't help BUT i will find mine lol.
Any honda accord or whatever acura equivalent of accord is. Yes I'm claiming that as a luxury car. Any car that's safe, soft riding, quiet, roomy and serves you so you never worry about is a luxury car.
@@andyleo8418 not really. I’ll probably sell it for $40k ish. You gotta look at cars as an expense never an investment. Budget for the car with depreciation in mind. The price of the car you buy should never come close to ruining your finances.
New S5 is pretty good, as of right now but it's loaded with technology that will begin to break over time and use and it will become far more expensive to fix everything in the long term when it starts breaking.
@@RANDOMGUY-ty3ze yeah but that’s not a problem when you have a warranty and don’t plan to keep it longer than 5 years. If you’re looking at it for the long term or if depreciation matters to you then you aren’t the target buyer. It’s good if you want a fast luxury vehicle and can afford it. Most cars now have crazy tech that’ll break in 10 years anyway. Long story short don’t buy a $70k car if you don’t plant to get rid of it in 5 years or if you don’t plan to pay a crazy price for maintenance after the warranty expires.
The 2009 to 2013 Mercedes Benz S Class has a reliable power train and is overall at least much more reliable than modern BMWs. Also they’re under 30 grand so you’re getting a lot of luxury and technology for the price.
I've sold about a dozen Touaregs in the past few years with mileage from 50-120k in V6 and TDI forms and Doug is right - a solid, solid car that punches way above its used price range. Common VW maladies like shrinking headliners, sticky plastic trim, and loose sunshades aside, these Touaregs are stout. Plus, they can actually tow a healthy amount. I remember getting a lot of looks trailering a 27' Baja across and over the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in a gas V6 Touareg.
@@jocelynmeyer490 if you're in the US or canada stick with the gasoline model. the adblue systems can be problematic. elsewhere like europe go diesel I say.
In the vein of the Toyota Century, I suggest the Toyota Celsior. Yes, it's just a JDM Lexus LS, but Japanese owners take far better care of their cars and drive fewer kilometers.
was about to say the same thing. first gen RL is very reliable and didn't have transmission problems like TL had at the same time. 3rd gen Q45 is also a very dependable car with great comfort. also these cars are CHEAP compared to Lexus, everyone knows old Lexus are still good, NOBODY cares about these cars.
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They just rose in value now thanks to this video
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Lmao right
Doug is going to get charged for market manipulation. 😂
Firstly give Doug way too much credit and secondly you're going to find a lot of cars that just so happened to be sellable on his auction. In the end it really doesn't matter if the prices go up or whatever, it just matters that they move!
At this point, Doug himself is pretty much the main reason these cars will now skyrocket in value
Nah, not really.
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At this point, this is more of a meme rather than his true influence on the car market. Don’t get me wrong I really like Doug and his takes but his influence is greatly exaggerated
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Funny that Doug mentions a few cars I have had some experience with.
1. I bought an LS460 2008 new from the Lexus showroom, and still drive it today (14 years old). Still drives great. Have maintained all along meticulously (also with relatively low mileage) and despite some niggles in the 07-09 models, still worth owning. It’s hard to justify replacing because my LS is still so comfortable, smooth and reliable. Verdict: winning.
2. My wife drove a 2008 VW Touareg bought new, and we drove it for about 6-7 years. First years were fine, but expensive parts/service and lots of little issues. Depreciated like crazy and sold it for a song. 2010- models look much better. Verdict: should have bought a Land Cruiser
3. I bought a cheap Mercedes G320 and spent a lot fixing it up. Drivetrain has been rock solid, very comfortable to drive, BUT tons of issues with electronics, central locking system, comfort features. It’s a bit of a money pit and not sure if I can recoup what I put it. But still, a cool, capable car. My hope to is to get it up to 100% condition and then keep indefinitely. Prefer the V6 for efficiency. Verdict: jury is still out.
4. Classic Toyota Century is very high on my wish list. They come up for sale in Dubai for $15-20K. Tempting!
Btw all these cars were driven in Dubai, with extreme weather, heat etc. Your experience may vary depending on your location.
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Nice taste in cars only thing you’re missing is a Porsche
@@eaauto6182 haha I actually have a 2019 Cayenne in the US. Also have an old 1999 S8 and 2010 LR4 in Dubai. Next on my watchlist: AM Rapide, AMG GT, M6 GranCoupe, Flying Spur, 1991 560SEL, Toyota Century or 2015 S8. All used, of course (thank you, gods of depreciation). And of course I am always on the hunt for a 911; ideally a Turbo S. All these cars are significantly cheaper (used) in Dubai than in the US. The irony of all this is I spend 99% of my time in Saudi, where I don’t even have a car! 😂
@@masoodrazaq Nicee bro we have like the same taste in cars lmao the Rapide and Turbo S are great choices I have an E350 cabrio and on the hunt for a 100 series LX or Land Cruiser
@@eaauto6182 Can never go wrong with Land Cruisers! 80 and 100 series are probably my favorites, although 60 is also cool. There’s also a retro Land Cruiser they sell in the Middle East called the 76 series. Used a lot my military and police. It’s sort of like a Japanese G Wagen
The Toyota Century had so much crazy technology for its time. It is a very cool and weird classic luxury car that is very reliable.
And with a few mods you can make it sound like a 2001 F1 car 😏 RUclips has videos
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Obviously it's nearly impossible to buy a Toyota Century.
@@jimmorrison714 Nearly impossible to buy a nice, US legal model. It's VERY easy to buy a nice, newer one.
@@roddevereaux1830 that F1 exhaust kit will cost you the same amount of the used Century 😂
2005-09 avalon limiteds are very underrated, heated and cooled driver and passenger seats, rain sensing wipers, keyless entry, push start, auto headlights, radar cruise control, reclining rear seats, electronic driver and passenger seats, rear AC, NAV, and a 3.5l 280hp v6, only downside is FWD or an upside depending on who
They are also very reliable and get good mpg for a full sized sedan and have alot of trunk space
Nothing wrong with FWD in a car like that, just means it will be better in snow
Completely agree it's definitely like a Lexus without the Lexus badging lol
Love mine - 35mpg from north Carolina to Connecticut and very roomy and comfortable. Good jbl sound system too
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I own a ls460, so far the best car I ever had. Bought it a bit under priced due to minor fixing needed, did all job myself and the car is running perfectly. Already put 5000 Kms on it, and it's a joy to drive and from the silence I get in the back seats it's a joy for my kid and wife too! They are even cheaper in EU than the price tag you mentioned here.
I wouldn't be able to stomach the gasoline bill for that car in Europe though
@@Slenderman63323 1.64 euro per liter, I do mostly highway & campaign road trips with it so it's viable (11-13L/100km). If you do city trips, that would hurt way more indeed.
@@leaverpool8059 1.64€/liter = $6.20/gallon and 18-21 MPG highway? sheesh. It's worth it to drive one of the best Japanese luxury cars though!
where exactly? i’m in eu as well! why i’m asking.
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I know Doug doesn’t like the Infiniti brand, but one more to add is the 2006+ M45. The V8 4.5L is extremely reliable. You can find really good low mileage examples for way under 15k.
And don't forget, Infiniti's don't have the shitty CVT transmission. All of them have automatics.
Fx35 and 45 are also very good
I have 2009 G
Have had it over 10 years
Yeah I was really hoping they'd make the list, at least the SUVs since that's what's popular now and their designs were so ahead of their time
I always wondered if the Infiniti Q45 or Acura Legends were reliable. I see them once in a while
There are literally no G wagons in that era at Doug’s price point. All the dealers probably marked them up $20k after this video.
Used to be you could find early 90s ones with the super reliable OM606 cheap enough before the push to turn them into designer trucks.
CarGurus shows a 2003 Mercedes-Benz G500 (180,000 miles) in Boston for $34,997.
@@yankees6970 that’s crazy that an almost 20 year old car with 180,000 miles is $35,000
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Depends on where you live. Here in Bavaria in Germany you get them even cheaper than what Doug mentioned. Because here in the Alps they are still mostly used as Work Horse. Not as "Beverly Hills Celebrity Car" like in the USA. And yeah that includes the G63 ones
Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
@@chartreux1532 in the US they are considered a celebrity car because they are very very very expensive brand new.
Love this “more Doug” content keep it coming
miss that poor little more douggy channel
I’d also add the first gen (in US) Hyundai Genesis 4.6 to the list, easily had under 10k, great performance for the money and bulletproof drivetrain. The biggest problem I had with my 160k+ mile example was the backup camera not working and I fixed it for $100. I drove it cross country and beat on it and it simply wouldn’t break.
The last of the Lincoln Town Cars fit the bill perfectly. Simple drivetrain, super comfortable and you can still find one owner creampuffs.
Shhhhhh stop telling my secret
4 years ago I fell into a silver 2004 Lincoln Town Car that the owners son was trying to prepare for sale. She was 79 and quit driving and it sat unused in the garage. It needed detailed and a LOT of maintenance and both bumpers refinished. $3200 made it mine and that's a lot of car for pocket change. Plus with an expected half million mile lifespan - it should be reliable and cheap to keep that way.
Just be careful.
The drivers side sun visor has been known to come loose inadvertently, and Fall down bonking drivers off the head and rendering them unconscious which could then cause you to lose control and crash.
Other than that, they're a fine automobile. 👌
@@johnnymichael1804 I will do my due diligence to prevent potential impending bonkage.
@@johnnymichael1804 must be a pretty heavy sun visor
@@crashlanding6997 😃 yeah
@@johnnymichael1804 imagine getting merc’d by your own sun visor 💀💀💀
I still vote for Lincoln Town Cars. Doug did a pretty good video about them a few years ago. Sure, they're getting long in the tooth ...but they still make the best value proposition so far as I can see. They're reliable. Durable. Get good gas mileage (23/24 mpg) and take regular, not premium gas. It's also cheap and easy to find new and used parts. And cheap to insure. Moved into a 13 Lexus ES after my last Town Car. New 05 Lexus IS 300 owner here, back in the day, so I'm familiar with Lexus. Interior's already falling apart around the engine on the ES350 and parts are 2/3 times what I'd pay for the Lincoln. Gummy rubber dash, worn out leather or nuluxe bolsters and door trim. And having off gassing issues with the windshield, that's a new one on me. Don't get me wrong, Town Cars have their issues, water leaks for starters, but overall, they make for the best value proposition. That said, no girlfriend, wife, or X wife's ever said a kind word about them. That Lexus tho. lol.
Yeah, but the Lincoln is an American car, it might be cheap and easy to fix but it will develop mechanical issues over time and at high mileages where the Lexus will have none despite its age or mileage.
@@RANDOMGUY-ty3ze Naw, maybe other Lincolns, but Town Cars with the 4.6 are very reliable upwards of 400K.
@@deliriousgastronomy My friend had a 1998 Town Car with 450k miles which developed a horrible rattle, and started knocking, until it jumped the timing and blew up. He maintained the car meticulously, and he always kept up on maintenance to no avail.
@@RANDOMGUY-ty3ze I mean...it already had 450K miles before it blew up. What more can you ask for? Most cars will be lucky to even reach 150k
@@RANDOMGUY-ty3ze Who'd complain about that? lol. By then, everything's generally usually worn out anyway. Timing chain rattle was an issue with earlier last gen ones. ...getting 450K was lucky. Usually these, need either a tranny, engine, or both in the 300K to 400K range.
I would add the 1998-2011 Lincoln Town Car (and Mercury Grand Marquis) to this list. They were made in huge quantities so the cars and parts are widely available and cheap, many can still be found with extremely low mileage as a large portion of them are sold to old folks, and they were made with one of the most reliable engines Ford has ever made! I bought a 2004 LTC in 2020 with 4500 miles on the clock for only $15K. It was in brand new condition. Extremely comfortable to drive, quiet, very good mileage on the freeway given it's a V8, easy to work on, parts literally everywhere. I've seen many with 300-400K miles on them still running and on the road. They're not high tech, but they're cheap, luxurious, comfortable and run danged near forever! Any more questions? Doug has a video on this exact model!
Absolutely agree
At my job, every Town Car I've worked on has either 250k miles. All of them feel and drive exactly the same
+1
Towncar FTW
The Panther platform is a tank, definitely. BUT they're not true luxury cars, even the Town Car.
@@bajiphotography9484 I seen someone compare to last gen town cars to the similar S class and they said the S after a lot of mileage loses its plush soft ride and becomes very bouncy and just feels different whether you service the air ride in those or not..wasnt the case with the town cars. Even at 500k miles they all ride the same granted the shocks are busted.
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Prices: Wanna see me climb that mountain?
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The LS460 is attractive price-wise, but they have a very complicated suspension system. General wear and tear on the front end can cost you about $8k just to get it up to par. I still prefer my LS430 over all just because it’s a good median between tech, comfort, and affordable reliability.
You hit the nail on the head. Yes, the 460 is probably cheap to own compared to most other luxury sedans, but it’s far more expensive to maintain than the 430 or 400. I had a 430, traded it for a 460, then went back to a 430.
Exactly exactly what I was trying to say. Someone spent 13k to get it running. The Ls460 suspension will fail too. The 430 is thr one to get
You can get the 460s with both the regular or air suspension. The air suspension and the control arms on the 2007-2012 models are the ones that are very expensive to fix.
@@CarShopping101 got ya
Yea a 2017 60k miles ls460 is going for almost 40k i dont know where he gets 15-20k for. Last year i was looking for a ls460 with leas than 100k miles and couldn’t find one for under 30k so i settles for a 2013 accord exL for 15k with 90k miles. Been a great car so far I have 112k on the dash. Only ask for oil and gas lol
I drove 50.000 miles (80.000 km) in my pre owned Volkswagen Phaeton GP3 so far and everything works perfectly and nothing has been wrong at all. I got it with 62.500 miles, 100.000 km on it. It likes Diesel a fair bit, but no other extra costs at all.
I did get it from a licensed VW Dealer close to the factory with a good maintenance history etc. But still a giant deal considering the quality and comfort it offers.
It increased in value despite the added miles.
Today’s car market is the reason why your car is now expensive
@@drippgxd It went up slightly more than the market did I believe but even keeping steady with more miles is great
@@reiniervanramshorst1031 alright important question who would you expect to buy a used car that became expensive? Give me some stereotypes
@@drippgxd I don't think I understand the question.
As a past Equus owner, highly recommend! Only major issues with them are the air suspension (as is with all air suspension vehicles) and some of the early 5.0 models have oil consumption to keep on top of. Only sold it cause I wanted a gas sipper!
I’ve owned a ‘14 Equus with the Ultimate package for almost two years, and I can confirm their luxurious comfort and reliability.
That 5.0 V8 engine is solid...
also have a 14 ultimate package, amazing car
I had a 2012 Genesis R-Spec with the 5.0 engine. It burnt oil really bad & It had electrical problems. I got rid of it. I’ll never buy another Hyundai again. Bad car
@@mgh6557 That was the worst model year of that car. They fixed a majority of the issues with the ‘13 and ‘14’s.
@@shawncarson8131 like I said. I’ll never buy another Hyundai again. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
Equus came out in 2010, the year after the Genesis sedan was released. Also, I would argue that the Grand Marquis should be on this list or even the Town Car. For what they were, they were luxury cars and if you were lucky and got one without the air ride, you're golden.
I agree. And even if the air ride goes bad, you can get them replaced and the rest of the car will be relatively worry-free (besides rust).
As a town car owner, I approve of this comment. The air ride suspension can be a little worrisome but other than that, it’s got a bulletproof V8 engine.
The Grand Marquis seemed to be a large car with luxury appointments. The Town Car more so fit the bill.
Not quite correct. Hyundai (Genesis) Equus came out in 1999 but that 1G wasn't sold in the US (or NA in general) until its second generation in 2010 model year.
Almost nobody would be caught dead in a Town Car/Grand Marquis today, except my great-great-great grandmother.
Good luck finding a town car that hasn't been destroyed by a livery company. I've seen some for sale in the 700k range. Finding one under 100k or 200k will be nearly impossible.
Lexus is my all around most favorite car. Reliable because it's basically a Toyota, very comfortable and smooth ride and also has some good performance.
As always Doug great job. Please keep on reviewing the quirky vehicles. I never skip those.
That’s not a quirky car review tho bozo
@@drippgxd He was just saying he likes quirky car reviews, bozo.
I bought a 2011 Equus Signature in 2015 with 50k miles. It has been a really great car. The only substantive repairs were replacing the rear air bags (common issue) and front air struts at around 100k. If you buy the parts on ebay and have an Indy install them, it's about $1200-$1500. At the dealership, LOTS more expensive. My buddy has the LS 460 from 2010. I think his seats are more comfortable, he thinks mine rides nicer. His LS gets almost 30 mpg on the highway; mine gets low-mid 20s. Both really great cars,
This comment is a good highlight of 'cheap' luxury ownership though.
$1200-$1500 is not 'cheap', but 'cheap' for a luxury car.
Don't buy a cheap luxury car unless you can shell out 1.5K randomly.
I bet many people will watch this video and think these cars are cheaper to own than your average 4 banger Civic, Corolla, Camry, etc, but they're still in a different realm, and people should be aware of that.
A wise man once said "nothing more expensive than cheap luxury car"
I think that goes for BMW and Jaguars 😃
yup. have fun paying for premium gas 🤦🏻♂️
@@coleswaggins I think premium gas is the last thing to worry about paying for with a cheap luxury car. most non luxury cars with turbos use premium gas too
@@eyceKoId it becomes such a burden. i was paying for premium only in 06 acura TL. due to bidenflation, i was paying $5 a gallon, and sometimes more. it really adds up. it is the last thing to worry about tho, like you said.
@@lorenzomoore6398 not true, modern jaguars are incomparable to old jaguars, and they are definitely more reliable than most bmws, jags after 1993 are solid and stopped using lucas. the 4.0s need timing chain tensioners, 4.2 thermostat housing. sometimes PR valve, the repairs are rare and not extremely costly
I bought a 2011 LS 460 with 52k miles for $26k in 2017. I have 69k miles on it now, and it rides like a dream. It's the first car I've had where every time I drive it, I think "Wow, this thing is smooth!".
Barely any km. High km early 460s have bad suspension issues. 2011 should have them ironed out. The bad ones are 07-10 I think
@@whitegoodman7465 Were those the ones with control arm issues?
RIP More Doug DeMuro. You will be missed.
Thanks Doug. As always you sure know how to pick them and I agree with everything on your list. BUT, I do own a 2017 Kia K900 (I do believe you've reviewed them in the past) and mine is the V8 Luxury model. It doesn't make your list because of it's limited production, but it does fit your criteria -- of course if you can find one.
It’s the same engine as the Equus and a bit less luxurious/not as good looking
Immediately thought of the K900 and thought it would make the list. I’ve been thinking of getting one recently. Does it have CarPlay though? He didn’t mention it in his review.
@@wg5331 hi. The 2015-2017 k900 is a marvelous vehicle but it does not have CarPlay which is unfortunate. I’m not sure if later models support it.
All of the feels! My old man had a ‘98 LS400, ‘03 LS430, and an ‘08 LS460. Sooooo many memories. Lost dad in 2018, but I’ll never forget his penchant for the Lexus LS. (and 7 series BMWs prior to those)
I got my 1990 LS400 to 320k miles. Low mileage examples are a great buy
About a month ago, I picked up a 2014(W212) M-B E350 Sport 4Matic with just a tick over 60k miles for 24K. Fairly low mileage for the age and very well maintained. Very happy with it and really like the way that it drives. Quiet, smooth, comfortable and decent MPG.
I had an LX470 - it was absolutely fantastic. I ended up wanting a Truck so I sold it and bought a Tundra (which I also love) but a couple months ago I came across a local ad for a 100 series Land Cruiser, so I picked the Land Cruiser up to drive alongside the Tundra. I just love the 100 series.
Only issue to really watch out for on the LX is the suspension. Different suspension than the Land Cruisers that rides better but is mega expensive if it goes out.
LX450 is exactly the same as FZJ80, but otherwise you are correct
is it straightforward to swap the LX for the LC suspension?
From my biased opinion, the 05-12 Acura RL could’ve been included in this list. The amount of technology even for today is amazing, 300HP V6, AWD and honda reliability
That was my first pick after the ls430/460. They really are great bargains, with plenty of power to boot
Absolutely. It's a very much overlooked vehicle.
I have a 1st gen RL besides it having less power and certain gadgets its a nice big body Acura.2004 by the way heated mirror,heated seats,sunroof ,Nav,10 speakers, and voice commands.
For the Lexus LS, just avoid getting one with air suspension.
Because it’s expensive to repair.
One luxury sedan that's often overlooked and could be had at an affordable price is the second generation 2005-12 Acura RL. It was well equipped for the price at the time with only a couple of option packages(technology and sporty A Spec), has standard SH(Super Handling) AWD which is regarded as one of the best AWD systems on the market, a 290 hp 3.5L V6 engine(later upgraded to a 300hp 3.7 L V6 in 2009), and has the legendary Honda reliability. The only downside is that the rear seat room is slightly smaller than some competitors but it's still comfortable and the V6 still uses a timing belt which requires replacement every 90K-100K miles. Other than that, it's still a good buy.
Just rebuild the first gen LS, restore it otherwise. It'll give you those 200k+ miles all over again.
Lincoln Town and Mercury Grand Marquis are great if you want cheap to buy and cheap to own luxury cars. Reliable and very comfortable.
Agreed…my son had a very reliable 2003 Grand Marquis for his high school car…only negative was gas mileage and rear-wheel drive in the winter.
@@hertzair1186 Thats great :D Yes they are quite big cars so gas mileage is low. I am actually looking for one since college is no longer online and I need a car to get there, it's mostly highways, so a highway cruiser like a Marquis would be nice :)
“Live this life of luxury, blazing on a sunny afternoon.” The kinks
in the summertiiime
in the summertiiime
You’re not kidding about the M113 engine models never depreciating. Their legend lives on and never depreciates.
I prefer the Hyundai Genesis to the Equus. No air ride, you still get the V8, same value, and it’s even cheaper to own/buy. I have two!!
Does the Genesis count as a luxury vehicle? I know in terms of looks it’s fairly the same,but not sure if most people would call it a luxury vehicle.
@@gucciguy3408 Go sit in a new Genesis and come back and answer your own question. Try the GV80. There's no "near luxury" there, it's a luxury car.
There is no Genesis that's a rebadged and gussied up Sonata or Elantra (like Acura and Lexus do). Where things have been similar (e.g. Equus) they were already luxury vehicles.
(new GV60 excepted)
@@gucciguy3408 I certainly think so, the sedan of course. It has ventilated seats, rear retractable sunshade, navigation, and adaptive cruise control. All in a 2009 vehicle. It did split away into a different luxury brand in the future to differentiate that as well
@@umakegoodcookies think he means the actual model CALLED the Hyundai Genesis which sat below the Hyundai Equus in the lineup. I think if we continue the trajectory--- the Genesis G80 is the spiritual successor to the Hyundai Genesis.
But to backfill, I would say to the other guy to check one out. My grandfather had two of them, one in coupe and one sedan form and he loved them. I was too young and lived too far away to really experience much of his cars but I do remember thinking his sedan was very nice at the time.
@@devongee1776 that's probably a valid interpretation but the Genesis sedan was always clearly a luxury car.
He could even have been referring to the original coupe, which was decidedly not a luxury car, even though it was a pretty good sport coupe for the time.
The only push back I would give on this list would be the lx470. It's a very nice SUV and very capable off-road. However it's also very prone to rusting issues. And the AHC suspension is also known to have many issues.
I agree with this list. The Korean brands have come a long way and it is just so amazing to see them rival Honda and Toyota as one of the best Asian imports. G-wagon holding its value after so long is also impressive!
Hopefully in the future I’d buy myself a G63 because Mercedes > BMW and also G wagons is the best looking suv ever
@@drippgxd the 300GE is the best looking of the G-Series SUVs in my opinion. German cars just cost too much to maintain for me.
@@Menace2DaComments yet the same people gets hyped about a used car being sold for 6 figures… I love hypocrisy
Good to have some confirmation, I did some research last month and came up with the Lexus ES350 for a cheap-ish, reliable car, and found one about 500 miles away, so I flew there and picked it up. Small cosmetic issues, the biggest thing was they sold it with the front brake calipers frozen, after claiming to do a "Level 4" inspection. Still, $9000 ain't bad.
Here in Finland you can get Touareg still. A V6 petrol with hybrid, it costs 86-92k € before options. So it’s a good car for flying under the radar, ”yes I am rich but nobody knows”…
Been driving a 2014 Equus Ultimate for 4 years now and absolutely love it. Swapped the air suspension for some good coils for longevity, and put the stand-up hood ornament like they have in South Korea. Traded my 2014 4-door Genesis R-spec for it, and am very satisfied
I would add the G37/Q50 with the 3.7 v6, the Lexus IS350, Infiniti M45 from 07. And some of the Cadillacs from 2010 on
2017 Q70 with the VQ37 👍👍
I agree Doug !
I bought a 69k miles Starfire White Long Wheel Base LS460 for $13k.
Super Clean!
Toyota Century about to cost Toyota Millenium after this video
I'd like to add the 1997 - 2003 Jaguar XJR. Specifically the R because of the Mercedes transmission, the normal V8 had a Jaguar box that was made of glass. There were timing chain issues with the early cars but if the car is still around now that problem has been addressed. Super comfortable, fast, and so far in the 8 or so years and 100,000km I've put on mine it's been absolutely bullet proof, and thanks to Jaguar's less than stellar reputation they are fairly inexpensive to buy, and to be honest the parts aren't that expensive
Early year ls 460 have much much more issues than the Ls430. Tons of suspension issues, brake actuators going bad often. Thousands to fix.
I own an LS430 and it definitely feels more true to the original LS's visions of pure comfort and simple reliability, over the LS460.
And they say Lexus is reliable 🤦♂️
While looking 2 years ago for an LS460, I happened upon a 08 ES350 with 90k miles with full service records for $4500 from the original owner. I bought it, and have driven it to now 155k miles, and still adore it.
The 4th gen LS is trouble. More realiable than the germans but for a Lexus it is trouble: front end, leaks, motor mounts…
No one ever mentions the Lexus GS460. It’s so rare, fast, reliable. Love mine.
Volvo S80 T6 is another reliable car that can be added to this list, rare as heck but they last for ever. They are also European which a lot of people will appreciate 🔥
So for the Dutch market;
- Lexus LS; 7 for sale, cheapest from 2007 starts at 25K, cheapest youngest generation actually starts at 45K (I can get a good middle class car for that price).
- Lexus LX; 1 for sale, 2007 model 38K. Again; that's serious money for a 2007 car.
- Hyundai Equus; Non for sale
- Volkswagen Toareg; 40 for sale, cheapest is 15K, a model with less than 120K on the clock starts at 35K. Now we are getting somewhere.
- Mercedes G Wagon - 180 for sale, starting at 24K, however these are the really old 1970's models. if you want younger than 15 years and less than 160K on the clock you are already looking at 50K.
This video is very obviously and clearly for Americans.
I would also add the Lexus GX470/G460! any model year is super reliable. And cheaper than an LX too!!! Naturally aspirated V8 😎
I got a 2015 Infiniti Q50 for like 17 grand and it’s never given me any problems it’s sharp enough, and 330 hp I like it a lot!
Does that have the VQ37? In Australia we didn't get that VQ in the Q50... but they did put a detuned version of it in the Q70... about 315 hp... which i have... and now feel slightly ripped off... 🤣🤣 Honestly though, it's enough. It is definitely quick enough...
For the Lexus LS make sure to get a 2010 or later if you want Bluetooth stock, mine connects quick without extra headache.
Yea same with the Equus on list a lot of the bluetooth on them is just for phone calls.
And if you want a nice sound system, see if you can get the Mark Levinson equipped ones. They have a ML logo right below the CD slot.
LS 460 RWD after 100,000 miles repair cost for suspension $10,000. Engine repairs are $5,000-$10,000
We called the first Gen "tow-rags" in the shop, also not cheap to own or maintain, water cooled alternator 8 hours or labor for a good tech
In my opinion the Lexus Ls 430 had the best looking, best built luxury sedan ever. It was just good looking, exterior and interior!
NOT cost Huge money to buy ….
But some of these will cost Huge money to maintain and own …. Like the German ones …
I HAVE to point out the Infiniti G37. I’m a sophomore in college and I bought a 2012 and paid cash for it.
It’s basically a luxury 370Z, it has decent tech for the time period, it has a luxury badge, AND you can get it with a manual.
Plus, the VQ37VHR is nearly bulletproof.
I have the 2nd gen Touareg. It’s a nice car. I have the 3.6 V6 petrol one. If you have any questions I’ll try my best to get you the info you need.
Actually a W221 S550 with 5.5 V8 is a quite good one. It’s not gonna be a Toyota but a well maintained example will be reliable
Kacper T Facts. W221 with the M273 engine is another really good Mercedes Engine. M113 is more reliable of the two but the M273 isn’t far off either. Those engines can go hundreds of thousands of miles.
Fun Fact: There’s an 07’ S550 with the 273 engine with over 600,000 miles. That’s the most non-diesel Mercedes engine I’ve ever heard of at least.
Nice video Doug! Another car you can add to the list is the Infiniti M56/Q70 or the Infiniti QX56/QX70.
Absolutely! I was going to say pretty much the same thing. I bought a dealer demonstrator Q70 for less than half the original retail price of it. (yes it was 2 years old with 11000 km on it... but it was only $32,000 australian,) Great car, it has been super reliable. In Australia Infiniti Q70's really didn't sell well, (i believe it was only a couple thousand over their 5 year run,) and this can be taken in two ways. Either you enjoy driving a unique car... a VERY unique car... or you can consider that it will mean it's going to be near impossible to get spare parts down the track. Thankfully they're very reliable, very comfortable... generally and genuinely a very very nice car to drive. 👍👍
And also a G series
I agree. I've had a QX56 for the past 6 years and I haven't really had any major issues with it besides faulty catalytic converters which are super common. I have 145k on it and it is still running strong. I also have a G25x with 175k and it still runs great. Its a VQ, but bored smaller to 2.5L. Infiniti's prime was the 2000s and early 2010s and they put out some good, reliable stuff. I wish Doug would have mentioned the Infiniti sedans/SUVs.
I’m keeping my 2009 Lexus IS250 as it has been very reliable. I maintain it regularly and it treats me tight. The mot recent thing I did was get a fuel induction cleaning as it’s direct injection. She has been a solid car for me.
Acura RLX Sport Hybrid (not PAWS), and the preceding 1st and 2nd gen RLs, should have an honorable mention. All exceptionally reliable and not expensive to maintain. Otherwise a great video!
Not as luxurious as the RL and RLX, but I have a 2009 TSX Tech Package 6-speed that currently has 243K miles on it.
The biggest omission on this list: Not a single Acura? Acura RL/RLX or MDX are nice.
I would also wager a Cadillac or Lincoln full-size SUV will be inexpensive to maintain and own if you can afford the gas.
But IMHO; the cheapest "luxury" car to own or operate has to be the Lexus ES. But I know that it isn't a true luxury car.
Yeah I was hoping Acura and moreso the 2000s and even early 2010s Infiniti's to be on the lost
If James from Throttle House saw the title screen, he'd be overjoyed
As soon as I saw that Century my mental narrator said, "and I'M James! ".
@@kevmagill5163 😂😂
My 2004 Lexus LS430, that I have owned now for 10 years, is hands down the overall best and most reliable, super comfortable car I've ever owned @ 238,000mi. No oil leaks or consumption. No electrical problems and everything except for the damaged park assist and telescopic motor on the steering wheel all works. Not even the check engine light has turned on over the last 10 years, just regular scheduled maintenance.
I own an 09 Lexus es350 in very good shape with every option available. It's a lot of car for the money and an amazing daily driver. It's not as cool or as luxurious as an LS, but it's cheaper and damn do I love this car. The 3.5l V6 is so smooth. Worth looking into if y'all are looking for a used luxury sedan. Not to mention that you probably won't see the death of this car. It's extremely reliable.
Doesn't need premium +1 and no timing belt to change +2. Is why I drive an ES350.
That 3.5 will literally last forever. Just look on here for vids of people trying to kill them lol. 350k miles, 15k oil changes, muffler falling off from rust but it does not burn a single drop of oil lol
@@wallythacker7772 The 3.5 is really great. Sure it's not exciting or anything, but damn do I know that this baby won't ever let me down.
I was surprised not to see it on the list, I found an 07 with every option on it and 18,033 miles for fewer than 15K in late 2019 and I'm now at 75K looking to go super high. If you're talking economical, it's nice that it can get you a pretty consistent 27-28 MPH in contrast to the V8. Not as luxurious as a bigger car, but still quite comfortable with a ton of very comfortable back seat room
As a Lexus tech Doug picked the most expensive LS generation to own. The 430 is the one to get
Yeah I just went looking for a used LS 430 and there's one in the entire region. Another one that is hard to find is an Infiniti M35.
I would like to add the Panther Platforn Lincoln Town Car, and Mercury Grand Marquis. I'd add Crown Vic if you can find one but most are clapped police cars.
To be fair, finding a good LS 460 with no accident history and relatively low miles is difficult to find for 20k. If you've got around $25-30k, shoot for a 2013 model (it is the facelifted model).
Doug finally giving Lexus some love. Thanks.
Phaeton is a luxury and interesting car
Very expensive to maintain. VW parts are weird to get at times in the States
If you want the car to spend more time at the shop than in your garage, that's a good choice
@@leaverpool8059 The 1st gen isn't very reliable but the 2nd gen is
@@Planag7 I know, but I'm in Europe.
I own a 2016 Touareg executive. It’s been a great car. Mine is a V6, very luxurious, great towing capacity, downfall is it’s horrible on gas. Would buy another in a heartbeat.
Fantastic video Doug!
Thanks for showing my old G-Wagon at 10:10 sec.
Ironically, you posted this as I put my '09 LS 460 for sale on Craigslist... one of the most reliable and comfortable cars I have owned. Hope you can get someone to go buy it with this video 🤣Thanks Doug
Craigslist? Not Caaaarsss And Bidzzz?
@@andrewdiamond2697 I wanted to however I plan on buying a new car on Thursday and I feel like the cars and bids process would’ve taken longer. Shipping the car, waiting for funds etc. also the car has 121k miles and I know most buyers on there are looking for lower mileage options.
How can you say the car is particularly comfortable? I have the same basic car - suspension is in excellent condition, and just received new Goodyear Comfort Tread tires. It really isn't much more comfortable than a mid size sedan. The car rumbles over rough pavement, hisses over concrete pavement, even small undulations are felt, and large impacts are felt as rubbery jolts to the spine.
Please note I come from a line of Cadillac owners...
Does your car ride at all like this? What's your experience with luxury cars? Do you read the auto press like consumer reports for help when shopping for a car?
You are definitely not finding a nice 2013-2017 LS460 for $15-20K. The cheapest I see in the country with a clean title is a 2013 with 206K miles tor $19.5K
I was thinking the same thing, late models are still going to run $35-$40k with clean titles and reasonable miles
Try Autotempest...
You never go to the Acura Flagship RL. The options list on these rival the Lexus LS. The voice control, controls most features in the car like (Defost,Fan speed,driver/passenger temp,XM/AUX/RADIO/ETC, Restaurants, Navigation & more) It's not Google so you have to say it in the voice format, but it was so good it made Mercedes create Hey Mercedes. It's a 2005 forward thinking development that most car don't have today. It's more rare than most modern Lamborghini's
Lexus is basically the fancy Toyota/ luxury Toyota
Yes. Just like Acura is fancy Honda and Genesis is fancy Hyundai and Lincoln is Fancy Ford…
I daily drive an 06 town car and that things been incredibly reliable. I love that car
As someone who's in the market for a nice 04-06 LS430, i really wish you had waited to make this video lol
nobodys gonna take your ls430 don’t worry
@@h7pubg I am not worried about them drying up. There's plenty out there. The problem is the ones in my area are clapped out, 250K mile $10K ones are all i see. Giving them exposure doesn't help BUT i will find mine lol.
James from Throttle House just bought the Toyota Century, Doug recommending the same, it just peaked my interest.
I have a 2 owner, 1992 ls400, 115k miles, silver with dark gray interior in mint condition, bought it for $5500, love that car
Nice car. Lucky enough to have cloth?
Any honda accord or whatever acura equivalent of accord is. Yes I'm claiming that as a luxury car. Any car that's safe, soft riding, quiet, roomy and serves you so you never worry about is a luxury car.
So true my old 2013 A4 seemed cheap at $20k but cost me $20k in maintenance. I picked up a new s5 to escape maintenance costs.
Sure, but the depreciation will kill you.
@@andyleo8418 not really. I’ll probably sell it for $40k ish. You gotta look at cars as an expense never an investment. Budget for the car with depreciation in mind. The price of the car you buy should never come close to ruining your finances.
New S5 is pretty good, as of right now but it's loaded with technology that will begin to break over time and use and it will become far more expensive to fix everything in the long term when it starts breaking.
@@RANDOMGUY-ty3ze yeah but that’s not a problem when you have a warranty and don’t plan to keep it longer than 5 years. If you’re looking at it for the long term or if depreciation matters to you then you aren’t the target buyer. It’s good if you want a fast luxury vehicle and can afford it. Most cars now have crazy tech that’ll break in 10 years anyway. Long story short don’t buy a $70k car if you don’t plant to get rid of it in 5 years or if you don’t plan to pay a crazy price for maintenance after the warranty expires.
I saw a Toyota Century on my vacation in Orange County, California. One of the few times I've seen a JDM.
I'm surprised there are no American made cars on Doug's list. A late model Town Car comes to mind.
Because they aren’t reliable and cheap to own.
imo Ford is usually good but the rest is a reliability train-wreck waiting to happen
I think the longevity speaks for itself. A panther platform Ford with 300k is not uncommon ie: taxi's, limo's, cop cars etc.
Not to mention any GM car with the 3800 V6 is bulletproof. Buicks with the engine are a good steal.
@@pinut187 still more reliable than the german cars
The 2009 to 2013 Mercedes Benz S Class has a reliable power train and is overall at least much more reliable than modern BMWs. Also they’re under 30 grand so you’re getting a lot of luxury and technology for the price.
Love yo Doug. I enjoy your reviews.
I am a proud owner of a 2011 Equus and everyone around me who knows what it is flips out. It’s truly one of the greatest luxury car bargains today
I've sold about a dozen Touaregs in the past few years with mileage from 50-120k in V6 and TDI forms and Doug is right - a solid, solid car that punches way above its used price range. Common VW maladies like shrinking headliners, sticky plastic trim, and loose sunshades aside, these Touaregs are stout. Plus, they can actually tow a healthy amount. I remember getting a lot of looks trailering a 27' Baja across and over the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in a gas V6 Touareg.
In your opinion, which is the better buy - the gas powered or the TDI?
@@jocelynmeyer490 if you're in the US or canada stick with the gasoline model. the adblue systems can be problematic. elsewhere like europe go diesel I say.
I don’t care how much maintenance and repairs cost, I still want a Bentley Turbo R!
Thank you Doug appreciate it🙏🏼
In the vein of the Toyota Century, I suggest the Toyota Celsior. Yes, it's just a JDM Lexus LS, but Japanese owners take far better care of their cars and drive fewer kilometers.
What about an older Acura RL or Infiniti Q45?
was about to say the same thing. first gen RL is very reliable and didn't have transmission problems like TL had at the same time. 3rd gen Q45 is also a very dependable car with great comfort. also these cars are CHEAP compared to Lexus, everyone knows old Lexus are still good, NOBODY cares about these cars.