What if movies are created to show us what we miss in order to fill in our blind spot? Directors and filmmakers don't exist in the real world. And Christian Bale isn't really Christian Bale he's a concept of personalities and so maybe filmmakers do exist only the discovery couldn't be made until Steve Jobs and apple launched I-Cloud. Then we could access the once limited horizon of film. Then we can put together the fact that Bruce Wayne and Patrick Bateman are the same person.
The directors asked Willem Dafoe (Kimball) to do this scene 3 different times. 1. He knows Patrick is guilty 2. He doesn't know if Patrick is guilty 3. He doesn't think Patrick is guilty After filming those 3 takes, they added random clips from each one to make this scene, to throw the audience off. We can never truly tell "Does he actually suspect him or is he just messing around?"
When you watch the scene when he pulls out the Huey lewis album, he definitely knows something, some information from the neighbors who heard the song coming out of batemans apartment.
Wow I never noticed that. You’re right, Bateman wants to use the excuse of lunch but jean said it was 930 or 1030, I can’t remember. (Obviously not a “long day” at 9 or 10 in the morning.)
In the beginning part of the first interrogation scene, just before Dafoe enters his office, you get a preview of just how grueling and stressful Bateman's workday is. The amount of effort and dedication he puts in to climb the ranks of his father's company is truly astonishing
@@rameez4904 Sarcasm - noun sar·casm | \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \ Essential Meaning of sarcasm : the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny.
@@Neo2266. as in "never" heard the album... Dafoe asked "just got it, heard it?" to which Bateman replied "never." Yes, it's a weird thing for him to say, but he was clearly referring to "never" hearing that album. Huey Lewis was very popular at that time, so he definitely would've heard of him as a person/band.
yes Musicals are known for their musicality, harmony, singing, playing. that's many arts combined and very white. African or "black sounding" music is mostly based on drums with either deep or high noise and monotone voices.
@Arczethus what?? The guy you're replying to didn't say anything racist, while I can't confirm whether he is accurate or not. But saying a type of music is black isn't racist, there's black music and Indian music and native American music. Not really racist to refer to it as such; honestly more of a compliment tbh.
Probably because the detective never existed. Patrick most likely created this idea in his head that he was being 'hunted' by the police. Like the thrill of the chase
@@renegade1234576 Yeah Bateman was probably never investigated at all. I do believe that he killed Paul because the scenes in which he does kill someone doesn't have sharp cuts or changes in dialogue. The homeless guy and Paul Allen are all clean scenes. You can tell the imaginative scenarios Bateman creates, with the hookers, the chainsaw, the nailgun behind his secretary, all fabricated to serve his inner desires. The whole interview with Kimball reeks of fantasy created by Bateman as a way of seeming like he has to be extra careful because some yuppie guy no one really cares about went missing.
I just realised why he's always telling everyone "I have to return some videotapes". It's so that there's a consistency about Bateman, when the detective is interrogating people who knows him.
No.. it’s because he’s always renting video tapes of disturbing movies/porn tapes. Usually repeatedly, as in renting the same movie over and over again like 20 times.
Liam Weaver My statement wasn’t conjecture, unlike yours. He’s literally renting disturbing/pornographic video tapes repeatedly, you see parts of this in the movie but it’s more pronounced in the book.
These scenes are some of my favorite in the whole movie. Patrick acting completely guilty, the detective seemingly dead onto him, then at the last minute brushes everything off and assumes he must be innocent. Hilarious but tension-filled
Right?! I love how in the end the alibi that gets him off comes from someone else entirely, he literally just lucks out everytime. Even when he like like tells his lawyer he's a killer, his lawyer doesn't even believe he's really Patrick Bateman, it's honestly hilarious
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter I think the point is they don't care if he did it or not, firstly because they're all too self-centered like when he constantly talks about how he enjoys killing people and his friends don't notice and secondly to drive in the point about how the wealthy can get away with anything.
I think that the detective knew the entire time, but was payed by patricks dad. You can see at the end of this scene that he uses the cd case to flash a ligth in batemans eyes and bateman doesnt react, showing hes completely dead inside
Willem dafoe is the perfect role for this character. His facial expression when finds a discrepancy in Patrick’s story really makes it feel like Patrick’s in trouble
1:25 The way he says "never" , getting overly defensive and thereby weakening his false front- It's just brilliantly initiated by Kimball and shows how smart that character is.
His earlier interview scene was a little too forward for my taste. But when the second interview scene was shown, I think he really came into his own, inquisitively and objectively. The entire scene has sharp, complex scoring and a new aura of investigative prowess that really gives the scene a big boost. His method has been compared to the Reid Technique, but I think Kimball has a more narcotic, friendly sense of cunning.
>without emotion He's literally the most transparent person ever. That's the thing about Bateman: he's deluded about himself. He's not as charismatic or sociable or talented or well-adjusted as he likes to think he is. Think of how many times in the book or movie people just think he's a weirdo. He's widely regarded as a creep by those who know him, and the only reason he's even been as successful as he has is because he was born into money, and nothing more.
1:38 " to each his own, i chose my path you chose the way of a hero, but the one thing they love more than a hero, is to see a hero fail , fall , die trying, in spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you, why bother"
+Apatheticer maybe. Also why didnt kimball go to the restaurant where patrick and paul had dinner ? Asking for secuirity footage or even showing patricks picture to the people working there could have set of some alarm bells. Ps. I wonder if jean quit her job after seeing patricks woman friendly drawings in his agenda ?
I feel like most people didn't think this movie was funny when it first came out but then as time went on people realized how great and hilarious the dialogue was XD
Kimball: Huey Lewis and the News? Great stuff; just bought it on my way here-ya heard it?? Bateman: I think their undisputed masterpiece is “Hip to be Square”; a song so catchy, most people probably don’t even listen to the lyrics, *but they **_should!_* Because it’s not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends; it’s also a personal statement about the band itself!
Music might be the only thing Bateman genuinely cares about. No one around him shows any interest in it, but he geeks out about it all the time. Wait... is that why everyone thinks Bateman is a dork?
@@robinvik1 He doesn´t actually geek out about it in presence of his friends, but only in company of either call girls, or his victims, like Paul Allen. When it comes to his public persona, he´s trying to fit in as much as he can, playing the part of the "boring, spineless lightweight", as the lawyer describes him at the end.
Patrick: "I guess I was returning videotapes" Detective: "Do you remember what they were?" Patrick: "Dark Knight and Batman vs Superman" Detective: "What did you think of them?" Patrick: "Both movies had the same protagonist, but Dark Knight used a slightly better actor"
The moment Dafoe pulls out Huey Lewis is pretty interesting. If you listen carefully, the moment he pulls out the album there's a cave like sound, a tinnitus like ringing, and a small light (presumably from the album cover) is reflected between the middle of Bale's eyes and then over his right eye.
I don't know if anyone else feels this way but Donald Kimball seems so, so, SO intimidating whenever he's on screen. You never know if he knows or not. One moment, he seems completely oblivious, the next, he seems deadly confident in knowing what happened
well, of course. when hes not out chasing gangsters in gotham city, he is in his office working for pierce & pierce...or probably returning video tapes
The CD's light reflection on his face at 1:19 is insane. I thought his forehead and temple were quivering with the music when it cut to him. Then it quickly flashes in his eye...crazy. Could have been intentional- maybe not. Either way- great.
So this interview was shot three times; one where Kimball knows he did it, one where Kimball thinks he did it, and one where Kimball doesn’t know at all. Bits of all three were spliced together to keep the audience guessing. It’s genius.
It's so interesting to see Bateman talk in these scenes, his responses sound like canned voicelines, like he rehearsed them and they're just auto responses he gives to things without a moment of thought, and Christian Bale does an amazing job with this character.
He's actually a clinical psychopath, which means that he doesn't actually feel real genuine emotion at all, so when he talks, he sounds like a robotic NPC.
They actually shot three versions of this scene: 1. Cameras rolling, but no actors. 2. Actors present, cameras off. 3. Actors present and cameras rolling. With the third setup, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.
One of my favourite moments in this movie is him pulling out the album and that eery sound that plays. Bateman scrambling to find an answer. Great stuff.
lets not forget his other brother Dr. Richard Kimball who was wrongly accused of killing his wife and later took over Alcatraz and threatened to launch chemical weapons into sanfrancisco
What people seem to forget is that Patrick listens to Huey Lewis and the News and actually murdered Paul Allen while playing the song “Hip To Be Square.” The fact that the detective pulls out that CD makes Patrick think he may be on to him, so he makes the remark about Huey being too black sounding as a denial of his involvement with what actually happened.
The movie, like the book, is from Bateman's perspective so it's tough to pinpoint what happened and what didn't exactly. I mean even if Kimball knew Bateman killed Paul it's nearly impossible he'd know about the Huey Lewis and the News stuff because he wasn't in the room. My guess is it was just a freaky coincidence.
@@lukebradley4660 I think you guys missed the point. The murders never happened, even the detective doesn't exist. In the end you'll see that the bodies that he hid, were never even there. In the beginning of the movie he says, that he's losing his sense of sanity, so he's going crazy. The huey Lewis CD is no coincidene, it's his own mind playing tricks with him. By the way, I watched the movie for the third time yesterday, and I finally got it.
@@edison886 There was supposed to be confusion/ambiguity regarding whether the murders happened or not, but according to the author they did in fact happen.
@@edison886 It's a common misinterpretation that the ending means that the murders never happened. I mean of course you can read it that way if you choose to but it was never intended to be a clear cut "it was all a dream" ending. The director Mary Harron said that was one place the movie failed because the ending was supposed to come across ambiguous as to whether Bateman had killed anyone, but a lot of people who watched it thought it meant everything was in his head. She also said she thought that the murders were not in his head. The writer of the book Bret Easton Ellis said that if the murders didn't happen then the point of the book would be rendered moot. The bodies are not there because the realtor removed them so she could sell the house. That's why she gets defensive when she realizes why he's there and tells him not to come back. In the book the room is described as smelling overwhelmingly of flowers; she put them there to cover up the smell. This satirizes the selfish nature of society.
Interesting fact: Willem Dafoe had to do his scenes in three different ways. One where he knew Bateman was the killer, one where he was suspicious, and the last one was that he had no idea
Every time I see any clip from this movie, I realize how well done it is. Mr. Bale is. Wonderful in one of the most un-nerving performances I have ever seen. It’s so well written and so many subtleties. I am of the school that all of the violence is in this guy’s head but he is capable of it!
@@Blank-km4qr Easy. Bateman never took the CD out of the player. He axed Paul Allen, took his body to Hell's Kitchen and was done with it, leaving Kimball to search the room in the interim, like if Bateman was at work.
@@Halo1138 Doesn't mean anything. even if he searched the apartment, if done without a warrant and the party knowing and being served the warrant its an illegal search and seizure. Regardless, even if it was a legal search, finding a CD in a CD player (no shit) doesn't mean anything. It could've been in there for months or even a year.
@@Lone2011Wolf Let's assume that Kimball got a legal warrant. If Kimball did deduce that Bateman was the killer, yeah a CD wouldn't have been proof. However, it could have been used as a gambit to see if Bateman would reveal a detail he shouldn't know. It's not an accusation, and if Bateman played it cool, it would explain why he brushes the album off relatively quickly. He tried a ploy, and Bateman gave an answer that didn't work with the plan. As for the warrant itself? That's the only blind spot in my theory. Given that movies jump over details for the convenience of plot sometimes, it's perhaps possible that a serving could have happened off screen. Bateman seemed like a 'cooperative' suspect in all prior instances, but no, if we assume that the interviews are the only times that Kimball has contact with Bateman, then he could not have had contact with Bateman to serve the warrant. As an attempt to save myself, that music was goddamn loud. It's possible that a neighbor heard Huey Lewis playing and not the murder that it was obviously masking. Thus, sidestepping my previous theory that Kimball searched the apartment.
@@rai2423 Well, Raskolnikov was being through a simular situation and simular emotions. A detective, interrogating him, was toying with him, and both Raskolnikov and Bateman were being put in a panic state of mind, "does he know?", "can I get away with the murder?", "how much does he really know?". The emotional rollercoaster, described in the book, matches well with the excellent, outstanding performance of Christian Bale. Calm outside, and panicked, paranoid on the inside, to the point of almost going insane
This is easily my favorite scene in this movie. The moment Kimball pulls out Huey Lewis and the News you see every bit of color drain from Patrick's face and the whole murder play back in his head like a rubber band snapping. Somehow, though, he swallowed that golf ball and shuffled Kimball out of his office asap.
In this scene, the director filmed William Defoe with three emotions, suspicion, knowing, not knowing. He later mixed these together to make a suspenseful scene!
How could Kimball have known about it being their most accomplished album though? Patrick only referenced it in his apartment with Paul. I think it's supposed to be an uncanny coincidence.
If I remember correctly the director had them do the scene a few different ways. One were the detective knew Batemen was guilty and one where he was just interviewing another witness who wasn't a suspect.
More than that, I heard they had three ways of shooting the scene; one where Kimball is sure Bateman is the killer, one where he's sorta suspicious, and one where he has absolutely no suspicions. Then they made sure to cut it so that part of each take was in the final cut, just to make things even more confusing.
The killing and the interview were both all figments of his imagination, so it was no coincidence that the detective just randomly pulled out a CD with sinister implications known only to the guy making up the fantasy.
Kimball was such an interesting character. Just the fact that they put in the different takes to make it seem like he sometimes was or wasn't suspicious of Patrick is great.
To better understand and appreciate this scene and the lunch scene check out some of the 1970's Colombo series episodes. In this movie not only does the detective know that Bateman is the murderer, he also knows that he is dealing with a patent liar and psychopath.
So this interview was shot three times; one where Kimball is a closeted homosexual, one where Kimball is something of a psychopath himself, and one where Kimball steals all of the lime in the building. Bits of all three were spliced together to keep the audience guessing. It’s genius.
He’s literally looking and acting like the most suspicious person on earth
😂😂😂😂
When the imposter is sus!😳
You'd be surprised as to how innocent he'd look if you didn't already know that he did kill paul.
Just perspective I guess.
@@noobnoob8922 That's what the books all about, these people actually exist. You'd have absolutely no idea, but they exist.
@@noobnoob8922 yeah lol. These people are such simpletons
"it was a laugh riot" says Patrick stoically.
first
@@AV9000x first what?
@@JaceDanielFilms first time in a while I haven't felt suicidal
@@AV9000x i see.
@@AV9000x I felt this comment on a molecular level.
For once, Willem Defoe isn't the creepiest character in a movie.
Haha, true.
Idk about you but he was creepier than Bateman in the movie, I'd have cast a more stern looking or a more phisically intimidating actor for this role.
The Platoon.
@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 dafoe fit the role perfectly
@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 hes supposed to be good looking.
I love how Patrick is so robotic and calm trying to handle the interview smoothly, but you can feel the panic boiling underneath.
“It’s not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me” who knew Bale’s other dialogue is so fitting here
@@ChocolateAsian9000 SWEAR TO MEEEE!!!
@@ChocolateAsian9000 Patrick Bateman is basically Bruce Wayne if his parents weren't killed
Bateman isn't used to speaking to somebody who isn't self absorbed.
@GreenTea nah only someone with an anime pfp would panic in a situation where they were innocent to begin with
That moment you realize the green goblin is interrogating Batman about murder
goth9ever when he killed The Joker lol
DC is on marvel's property
Bateman* lul
What if movies are created to show us what we miss in order to fill in our blind spot? Directors and filmmakers don't exist in the real world. And Christian Bale isn't really Christian Bale he's a concept of personalities and so maybe filmmakers do exist only the discovery couldn't be made until Steve Jobs and apple launched I-Cloud. Then we could access the once limited horizon of film. Then we can put together the fact that Bruce Wayne and Patrick Bateman are the same person.
yah
I guess I was prrrrooobably returning videotapes
what are these random letters people have as profile pictures?
@Just V Google sets them as defaults according to the first letter of your name
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this is my favourite excuse ...for anything...
What's a videotape?
This movie is legitimately funnier than most comedies.
The business card scene was genius
@@RS-do1of Let's see Paul Allen's card...🤣🤣🤣
BN Films yes- proper horror scene that. Although at the end you are left to think that maybe that was all a delusion.
Completely opposite to the book.
Michael Sapienza I read it years ago. But from what I remember I agree- it was never suggested it was an illusion.
The directors asked Willem Dafoe (Kimball) to do this scene 3 different times.
1. He knows Patrick is guilty
2. He doesn't know if Patrick is guilty
3. He doesn't think Patrick is guilty
After filming those 3 takes, they added random clips from each one to make this scene, to throw the audience off. We can never truly tell "Does he actually suspect him or is he just messing around?"
The rumor says Kimball is imaginary
makes sense...I couldn't tell what he was thinking
When you watch the scene when he pulls out the Huey lewis album, he definitely knows something, some information from the neighbors who heard the song coming out of batemans apartment.
thank you for this information, very fascinating
2 and 3 are the same thing. I think you meant to say "2. He thinks Patrick isn't guilty"
Let's see Paul Allan's interview
That subtle message he leaves to his fiancé.
Oh my god, he even has an alibi.
😂😂😂
"What information have you received?"
That comment...it was a laugh riot
@@curtisfriend1499 tasty like the dinner at dorsia
*Allen
having just arrived at the office:
"long day, bit scattered."
lmao
Wow I never noticed that. You’re right, Bateman wants to use the excuse of lunch but jean said it was 930 or 1030, I can’t remember. (Obviously not a “long day” at 9 or 10 in the morning.)
@@connorsiemien1167 He could also be a bit scattered because he's got a long day ahead...
In the beginning part of the first interrogation scene, just before Dafoe enters his office, you get a preview of just how grueling and stressful Bateman's workday is. The amount of effort and dedication he puts in to climb the ranks of his father's company is truly astonishing
@@rameez4904 Sarcasm - noun
sar·casm | \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
Essential Meaning of sarcasm
: the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny.
"We'd gone to a musical called 'Oh, Africa. Brave Africa'. It was a laugh riot..." LOL!
MrOmegaBeams 😂😂😂😂😂
What's so funny
@@batabatonica The pokerface he gives when saying that.
“Huey’s too black sounding”
@Arczethus it's like we still own you. (Oppressive laughter.)
What Bateman doesn't know is that the investigator is going to choose Dorsia's for their lunch....
so... Dorsia is where Kimball wants to go...
They’re fully booked.
@@Mtbker456 Really? That's great.
Kimble must have given the maitre’d head
ri3it483qthirf I wish Christian Bale and Willem Dafoe saw this comment
“Hueys too black sounding for me” I’m dying.
10 seconds earlier he said he never heard it lol
@@budbin he was referring to the album, not huey lewis as a whole
@@dr6udr6udm34 Yeah but that “never” sounded so definitive
@@Neo2266. as in "never" heard the album... Dafoe asked "just got it, heard it?" to which Bateman replied "never." Yes, it's a weird thing for him to say, but he was clearly referring to "never" hearing that album. Huey Lewis was very popular at that time, so he definitely would've heard of him as a person/band.
favourite singer: Whitney Houston
also, looks like no one noticed the light reflecting off the album highlighting his Pineal Gland lol
Bale is always great, but I find that Willem Dafoe really kills these scenes.
Is not possible to kiss scenes. Please talk properly.
I agree. Kimball is all charisma. Hes investigating bateman, yet comes off like a good friend.
Álvaro Prego Degenerate.
Álvaro Prego Degenerate.
Álvaro Prego context clues exist
Bateman says Huey Lewis and the News was too black sounding for him yet he enjoyed Oh Africa, Brave Africa which was a musical😂
It was a laugh riot, that's why...
Did you not hear when he said laugh riot idiot?
yes Musicals are known for their musicality, harmony, singing, playing. that's many arts combined and very white. African or "black sounding" music is mostly based on drums with either deep or high noise and monotone voices.
@Arczethus Was a nerve touched? lol
@Arczethus what?? The guy you're replying to didn't say anything racist, while I can't confirm whether he is accurate or not. But saying a type of music is black isn't racist, there's black music and Indian music and native American music. Not really racist to refer to it as such; honestly more of a compliment tbh.
The green goblin interrogating batman about jokers death
Whew
Jar of fermented semen how is Paul Allen joker
@@oscarqwe123 Paul allen is played by Jared Leto, joker from suicide squad
Project1nol wow lol
Fuckin funny dude
holy shit
I think it's funny how blatantly bad he is at throwing him off his tail hahah
Probably because the detective never existed. Patrick most likely created this idea in his head that he was being 'hunted' by the police.
Like the thrill of the chase
@@angus6858 Interesting idea
@@angus6858 especially based on the lawyers comments at the end
@@renegade1234576 aswel as the ATM wanting Bateman to feed a cat to it.
@@renegade1234576 Yeah Bateman was probably never investigated at all. I do believe that he killed Paul because the scenes in which he does kill someone doesn't have sharp cuts or changes in dialogue. The homeless guy and Paul Allen are all clean scenes. You can tell the imaginative scenarios Bateman creates, with the hookers, the chainsaw, the nailgun behind his secretary, all fabricated to serve his inner desires.
The whole interview with Kimball reeks of fantasy created by Bateman as a way of seeming like he has to be extra careful because some yuppie guy no one really cares about went missing.
I just realised why he's always telling everyone "I have to return some videotapes". It's so that there's a consistency about Bateman, when the detective is interrogating people who knows him.
No.. it’s because he’s always renting video tapes of disturbing movies/porn tapes. Usually repeatedly, as in renting the same movie over and over again like 20 times.
Nah it’s cause he’s a psychopath and he thinks that what people do. He uses the same excuse over and over again to ‘appear’ normal.
Liam Weaver My statement wasn’t conjecture, unlike yours. He’s literally renting disturbing/pornographic video tapes repeatedly, you see parts of this in the movie but it’s more pronounced in the book.
Liam Weaver Najh. It’s obviously just something he says as a joke.
The detective probably never interviews his friends though, since he was never a suspect in the first place.
These scenes are some of my favorite in the whole movie. Patrick acting completely guilty, the detective seemingly dead onto him, then at the last minute brushes everything off and assumes he must be innocent. Hilarious but tension-filled
Right?! I love how in the end the alibi that gets him off comes from someone else entirely, he literally just lucks out everytime. Even when he like like tells his lawyer he's a killer, his lawyer doesn't even believe he's really Patrick Bateman, it's honestly hilarious
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter I think the point is they don't care if he did it or not, firstly because they're all too self-centered like when he constantly talks about how he enjoys killing people and his friends don't notice and secondly to drive in the point about how the wealthy can get away with anything.
I think that the detective knew the entire time, but was payed by patricks dad. You can see at the end of this scene that he uses the cd case to flash a ligth in batemans eyes and bateman doesnt react, showing hes completely dead inside
Absolutely. I’m with you in that one.
@@blackmage1276 Never caught that. Great detail!
Willem dafoe is the perfect role for this character. His facial expression when finds a discrepancy in Patrick’s story really makes it feel like Patrick’s in trouble
and yet he still remains so friendly the whole time.. lol.
I love how the light from the Huey Lewis case shines directly between his eyes, like the laser sighting of a gun.
Nice eye
Bateman doesn't react when the light hits his left eye
"It was a laugh riot." Haha. This movie is a masterclass in Black Comedy
Dark comedy, Boondocks is what I’d call black comedy lol
@William Lyon How is that a whoosh? He used the term improperly. It's like saying 'Taking things for granite" or "Should of"
@William Lyon I mean “Black Comedy” instead of “Dark Comedy”
@William Lyon ...
Oh
@@Neo2266. also, black comedy is not what u apparently think it is
1:25 The way he says "never" , getting overly defensive and thereby weakening his false front- It's just brilliantly initiated by Kimball and shows how smart that character is.
Overly defensive? Not at all. He just hadn’t any emotion in his voice to make the never sound convincing.
If you listen closely, he says he's never heard of them yet at the end says that they're too black sounding for him. Caught in his own lie.
@@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY you can't be serious?
@@StOrmZIsoNItZWaY He said he never heard the album.
His earlier interview scene was a little too forward for my taste. But when the second interview scene was shown, I think he really came into his own, inquisitively and objectively. The entire scene has sharp, complex scoring and a new aura of investigative prowess that really gives the scene a big boost. His method has been compared to the Reid Technique, but I think Kimball has a more narcotic, friendly sense of cunning.
How hasnt this been upvoted more?
@@thomaskornerup9438 we're not on Reddit say liked
Hey paul!
best comment in the section
It is called like and dislike bar you dumb cattle
he has the facial expression of a snake. cold and without emotion
@Daniella G He's sweating a river every time he talks to the investigator
But very attractive, though.
@meaturama that's debatable. They have instinct, emotion idk. Be better informed before sounding stupid
Upscale Avenue very! 😍
>without emotion
He's literally the most transparent person ever. That's the thing about Bateman: he's deluded about himself. He's not as charismatic or sociable or talented or well-adjusted as he likes to think he is. Think of how many times in the book or movie people just think he's a weirdo. He's widely regarded as a creep by those who know him, and the only reason he's even been as successful as he has is because he was born into money, and nothing more.
Impressive. Very nice. Now lets see paul allen's interview
gold
The readiness and enthusiasm with which he says “I’m with you on that one” always gets me😂😂😂
@ 1:04 You can see the boom stick in the reflection of the disc behind Bateman's arm.
lol you'd do a better job than donald
Stephen McGrann If you want. lol
no just cool it with the antisemitic remarks
Impressive. Very nice. Lets see Paul Allen's boom stick.
damn nice catch
Goes to a musical called Oh Africa, Brave Africa but Huey Lewis is “too black” sounding. Very subtle joke xD
He went to the musical for a laugh hence why he said laugh riot
1:38 " to each his own, i chose my path you chose the way of a hero, but the one thing they love more than a hero, is to see a hero fail , fall , die trying, in spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you, why bother"
Windownsmp Lmao good one
YES someone else realized it too
MarkanVaran7 because patrick Bateman just isn’t there!
Just about to comment on that. He says the line the exact same way.
If patrick just let him finish his sentence hed knew there was an alibi made up for him
too right. a half second longer. but who knew who he killed Paul Allen? no one knew who the fuck anyone was.
+Apatheticer maybe. Also why didnt kimball go to the restaurant where patrick and paul had dinner ? Asking for secuirity footage or even showing patricks picture to the people working there could have set of some alarm bells.
Ps. I wonder if jean quit her job after seeing patricks woman friendly drawings in his agenda ?
010les they get married and have a son.
What’s the alibi.
Mike S. Named Bruce, and moved to Gotham.
I feel like most people didn't think this movie was funny when it first came out but then as time went on people realized how great and hilarious the dialogue was XD
Yeah this movie is pretty timeless, in like a dark way 😆
Halberstram just wants a quiet life
I really hope this isn't a reference
Halberstram is 30 years old he doesnt smoke but drinks occasionally
These cursed jojo references
Although, I have a slightly better haircut.
Paul allen has mistaken me for this dickhead Marcus Halberstram
Kimball: Huey Lewis and the News? Great stuff; just bought it on my way here-ya heard it??
Bateman: I think their undisputed masterpiece is “Hip to be Square”; a song so catchy, most people probably don’t even listen to the lyrics, *but they **_should!_* Because it’s not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends; it’s also a personal statement about the band itself!
I think he says importance of trends
tdp0302 I looked up the script; you are correct. Thank you.
Hey Paul !!
Music might be the only thing Bateman genuinely cares about. No one around him shows any interest in it, but he geeks out about it all the time. Wait... is that why everyone thinks Bateman is a dork?
@@robinvik1 He doesn´t actually geek out about it in presence of his friends, but only in company of either call girls, or his victims, like Paul Allen. When it comes to his public persona, he´s trying to fit in as much as he can, playing the part of the "boring, spineless lightweight", as the lawyer describes him at the end.
Patrick: "I guess I was returning videotapes"
Detective: "Do you remember what they were?"
Patrick: "Dark Knight and Batman vs Superman"
Detective: "What did you think of them?"
Patrick: "Both movies had the same protagonist, but Dark Knight used a slightly better actor"
Detective: Nice nice
Slightly? More like tremendously lol
@@scottshelby843 "Thanks."
although bale is terrific actor, i think Affleck did a wayyy better job in playing both bruce and batman.
This entire questioning scene was a laugh riot
This movie was a blessing. Those video tapes saved my life more times than I care to admit.
tell kimball i couldn't make that lunch afterall. i had to return some video tapes
Kimball: I want to ask you about those VIDEO TAPES!
"Absolutely. I'm with you on that one"
Haha that was so fake
Your interview was sufficient Donald!!
"You know, I'm something of a Huey Lewis fan myself."
The moment Dafoe pulls out Huey Lewis is pretty interesting. If you listen carefully, the moment he pulls out the album there's a cave like sound, a tinnitus like ringing, and a small light (presumably from the album cover) is reflected between the middle of Bale's eyes and then over his right eye.
0:41 "It was a laugh riot" 😐😐😐
"it was a laugh riot" , and he said it in the most depressing way possible.
This movie had one of the best casts. Brilliant acting in almost every scene from all actors
Why are you in a trashbag?
@@devanshrathore9112 I think a niqab
@@joesphjoestar4953 same thing
@@devanshrathore9112 Nah
@@devanshrathore9112 cool it with the anti-semitic remarks
I like how they're re recommending these clips. It's good.
"You know Patrick. I'm something of a psycho myself."
> Gives completely false information that they both know is False
> "Hope I've been informative"
> Refuses to elaborate
> Returns videotapes
I don't know if anyone else feels this way but Donald Kimball seems so, so, SO intimidating whenever he's on screen. You never know if he knows or not. One moment, he seems completely oblivious, the next, he seems deadly confident in knowing what happened
Dafoe elevates every character he plays
I actually felt my heart drop in guilt when Kimball whipped out the Huey Lewis and the News album as if I myself had done it.
It's amazing how Bateman can also be batman.
Arvind Talukdar coincidence?
well, of course. when hes not out chasing gangsters in gotham city, he is in his office working for pierce & pierce...or probably returning video tapes
Also I have a feeling the name Bateman was inspired by Norman Bates from Psycho
Wayne Enterprises acquired Pierce & Pierce shortly after this film takes place.
Not to mention "Norman Bates."
The CD's light reflection on his face at 1:19 is insane. I thought his forehead and temple were quivering with the music when it cut to him. Then it quickly flashes in his eye...crazy. Could have been intentional- maybe not. Either way- great.
So this interview was shot three times; one where Kimball knows he did it, one where Kimball thinks he did it, and one where Kimball doesn’t know at all. Bits of all three were spliced together to keep the audience guessing. It’s genius.
really? interesting
@Haris I dont remember asking you a goddamn thing
I didn't know that Travis thanks for the info.
This was the “he knows he did it”
@Haris damn, imagine censoring your own comments on RUclips lmao. And calling someone a bitch while being bitch. Lmaoooo
So great ... the sunlight reflecting off the Huey Lewis CD onto Bateman's face. I love those little touches in this movie.
“I guess I was probably returning some videotapes” like it’s something that he does everyday at that exact time
Returning video tapes can bring you out of any awkward situation.
But nobody rents videotapes anymore.
these interviews are probably some of the best scenes in the movie
well dafoe is one of the best actors ever and bateman is a classic performance so
Oh Africa brave Africa was a laugh riot
“It’s not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me” who knew Bale’s other dialogue is so fitting here
It's so interesting to see Bateman talk in these scenes, his responses sound like canned voicelines, like he rehearsed them and they're just auto responses he gives to things without a moment of thought, and Christian Bale does an amazing job with this character.
It's an exceptional film, and still Bale's finest performance.
He's actually a clinical psychopath, which means that he doesn't actually feel real genuine emotion at all, so when he talks, he sounds like a robotic NPC.
That was intense when he pulled out the cd.
Triggered.
I carry around a Huey Lewis cd wherever I go just so I can take it out randomly and shine the reflection from the case in people's eyes
the moment he takes out the cd and the grin on his face was like “Hey f- , i know you better than you think”
True!!!
They actually shot three versions of this scene:
1. Cameras rolling, but no actors.
2. Actors present, cameras off.
3. Actors present and cameras rolling.
With the third setup, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.
Every clip has some dummy stating this, they learned about it from the making of and now think they have secret information
@@jimmycakes7158 Did you take the time to read it?
I love how emotionlessly he said "it was a laugh riot"
“I mean I… don’t really like singers.” He says with a walk of CDs behind him
too each his own...chuckle Hip 2 B 2#
This is a great movie. Pure classic.
One of my favourite moments in this movie is him pulling out the album and that eery sound that plays. Bateman scrambling to find an answer. Great stuff.
His Brother John Kimball is undercover as a kindergarten teacher in Astoria Oregon were a pirate ship was once seen sailing away in 1985
KingDT2007
And he likes his car.
lets not forget his other brother Dr. Richard Kimball who was wrongly accused of killing his wife and later took over Alcatraz and threatened to launch chemical weapons into sanfrancisco
“Hey you guuuyyysssss!”
I’m a cop you idiot!
I’m detective John Kimball!
What people seem to forget is that Patrick listens to Huey Lewis and the News and actually murdered Paul Allen while playing the song “Hip To Be Square.” The fact that the detective pulls out that CD makes Patrick think he may be on to him, so he makes the remark about Huey being too black sounding as a denial of his involvement with what actually happened.
“Huey’s too black sounding for me.”
*Shrugs* “To each his own.”
😂😂😂
Lol! He said that line in Spiderman too.
"Never, i mean i don't really like singers" the most normal sentence anyone could say to a detective
He could confess right there and the detective wouldn’t believe him.
trivia: O AFRICA BRAVE AFRICA cast party was at Dorsia
Whats up with Kimball showing me Huey Lewis and the News? Did he know?
The movie, like the book, is from Bateman's perspective so it's tough to pinpoint what happened and what didn't exactly. I mean even if Kimball knew Bateman killed Paul it's nearly impossible he'd know about the Huey Lewis and the News stuff because he wasn't in the room. My guess is it was just a freaky coincidence.
@@lukebradley4660 I think you guys missed the point. The murders never happened, even the detective doesn't exist. In the end you'll see that the bodies that he hid, were never even there. In the beginning of the movie he says, that he's losing his sense of sanity, so he's going crazy. The huey Lewis CD is no coincidene, it's his own mind playing tricks with him. By the way, I watched the movie for the third time yesterday, and I finally got it.
@@edison886 There was supposed to be confusion/ambiguity regarding whether the murders happened or not, but according to the author they did in fact happen.
@@edison886 It's a common misinterpretation that the ending means that the murders never happened. I mean of course you can read it that way if you choose to but it was never intended to be a clear cut "it was all a dream" ending. The director Mary Harron said that was one place the movie failed because the ending was supposed to come across ambiguous as to whether Bateman had killed anyone, but a lot of people who watched it thought it meant everything was in his head. She also said she thought that the murders were not in his head. The writer of the book Bret Easton Ellis said that if the murders didn't happen then the point of the book would be rendered moot.
The bodies are not there because the realtor removed them so she could sell the house. That's why she gets defensive when she realizes why he's there and tells him not to come back. In the book the room is described as smelling overwhelmingly of flowers; she put them there to cover up the smell. This satirizes the selfish nature of society.
Edi Son The director said that was never the point that was supposed to be conveyed
Reflecting the sun into his face off the CD case is genius. The blank stare is all the harder when he doesn't even react to the light in his eyes.
Interesting fact: Willem Dafoe had to do his scenes in three different ways. One where he knew Bateman was the killer, one where he was suspicious, and the last one was that he had no idea
another interesting fact: this gets posted on every single video of this scene ever
@@zedsdeadbaby haha my bad, so not so interesting then 😂🙈
Every time I see any clip from this movie, I realize how well done it is. Mr. Bale is. Wonderful in one of the most un-nerving performances I have ever seen. It’s so well written and so many subtleties. I am of the school that all of the violence is in this guy’s head but he is capable of it!
"Probably returning video" tapes is equivalent to The Soprano's "Taking my mother to the doctor".
“You and I can rule this city Batman...”
I wonder what the modern version of the excuse “returning videotapes” would be
I have to renew my netflix subscription
I lived in Manhattan in this era and did indeed have to return videotapes from time to time.
"Huey Lewis and the News!"
Oh come on, the dude knew. He knew the whole time and he was messing with Bateman right to his face.
Omega Actual how would a detective know what song was playing at the time of the murder
@@Blank-km4qr Easy. Bateman never took the CD out of the player. He axed Paul Allen, took his body to Hell's Kitchen and was done with it, leaving Kimball to search the room in the interim, like if Bateman was at work.
@@Halo1138 Doesn't mean anything. even if he searched the apartment, if done without a warrant and the party knowing and being served the warrant its an illegal search and seizure. Regardless, even if it was a legal search, finding a CD in a CD player (no shit) doesn't mean anything. It could've been in there for months or even a year.
@@Lone2011Wolf Let's assume that Kimball got a legal warrant. If Kimball did deduce that Bateman was the killer, yeah a CD wouldn't have been proof. However, it could have been used as a gambit to see if Bateman would reveal a detail he shouldn't know. It's not an accusation, and if Bateman played it cool, it would explain why he brushes the album off relatively quickly. He tried a ploy, and Bateman gave an answer that didn't work with the plan.
As for the warrant itself? That's the only blind spot in my theory. Given that movies jump over details for the convenience of plot sometimes, it's perhaps possible that a serving could have happened off screen. Bateman seemed like a 'cooperative' suspect in all prior instances, but no, if we assume that the interviews are the only times that Kimball has contact with Bateman, then he could not have had contact with Bateman to serve the warrant.
As an attempt to save myself, that music was goddamn loud. It's possible that a neighbor heard Huey Lewis playing and not the murder that it was obviously masking. Thus, sidestepping my previous theory that Kimball searched the apartment.
@@Halo1138 But weren't they at Batemans appartement?
I get strong 'crime and punishment' vibes from this scene
@@rai2423 Well, Raskolnikov was being through a simular situation and simular emotions. A detective, interrogating him, was toying with him, and both Raskolnikov and Bateman were being put in a panic state of mind, "does he know?", "can I get away with the murder?", "how much does he really know?". The emotional rollercoaster, described in the book, matches well with the excellent, outstanding performance of Christian Bale. Calm outside, and panicked, paranoid on the inside, to the point of almost going insane
I absolutely love the way he tries to refection the light into his face.
“You know, I’m something of a Huey Lewis fan myself” - Green goblin.
"you know, i'm something of a psychopath myself."
Maybe Kimball could have sorted out all his information faster if he hadn't spent so much time listening to Huey Lewis and the News.
This is easily my favorite scene in this movie. The moment Kimball pulls out Huey Lewis and the News you see every bit of color drain from Patrick's face and the whole murder play back in his head like a rubber band snapping. Somehow, though, he swallowed that golf ball and shuffled Kimball out of his office asap.
In this scene, the director filmed William Defoe with three emotions, suspicion, knowing, not knowing. He later mixed these together to make a suspenseful scene!
the director is a she
Hueys too black sounding for me..yeah right! :D
I wonder was pulling out that album a test?
How could Kimball have known about it being their most accomplished album though? Patrick only referenced it in his apartment with Paul.
I think it's supposed to be an uncanny coincidence.
If I remember correctly the director had them do the scene a few different ways. One were the detective knew Batemen was guilty and one where he was just interviewing another witness who wasn't a suspect.
More than that, I heard they had three ways of shooting the scene; one where Kimball is sure Bateman is the killer, one where he's sorta suspicious, and one where he has absolutely no suspicions. Then they made sure to cut it so that part of each take was in the final cut, just to make things even more confusing.
What does that mean?
The Green Goblin high as shit, pretending to be a detective and interrogating Batman
He for sure knows it's him he applies pressure and Bateman tries to not be tense but it's evident on his face
Whenever my boss asks me to do something stupid:
*"Absolutely. I'm with you on that one."*
"I don't really like singers" out of all the things he could of said thats what he comes up with lol
Pulling out the Huey CD (that Bateman was playing when he murdered Paul Allen)...random coincidence or a test to see how Bateman would react?
The killing and the interview were both all figments of his imagination, so it was no coincidence that the detective just randomly pulled out a CD with sinister implications known only to the guy making up the fantasy.
at 1:02 you can see the reflection of the boom operator on the CD behind Christian's right arm
He's so cool, calm, and collected. Yet it's so obvious he's a psycho. Great acting..
Lol, yeah that's what makes it so funny when hes trying to talk to people
Lol
That's because everything he says has literally no emotion or feeling whatsoever. He sounds like a flatlining robot.
Kimball was such an interesting character. Just the fact that they put in the different takes to make it seem like he sometimes was or wasn't suspicious of Patrick is great.
To better understand and appreciate this scene and the lunch scene check out some of the 1970's Colombo series episodes. In this movie not only does the detective know that Bateman is the murderer, he also knows that he is dealing with a patent liar and psychopath.
So this interview was shot three times; one where Kimball is a closeted homosexual, one where Kimball is something of a psychopath himself, and one where Kimball steals all of the lime in the building. Bits of all three were spliced together to keep the audience guessing. It’s genius.