The "new enemy" is not a new enemy race just a new unit from the tyranids or chaos. so i feel alot of people are getting the wrong expectations from the roadmap.
Fallout, I say this with the utmost love and respect for all your content: Imperium of Man: Bad. Enemies of the Imperium: Bad. Everything in the WH universe: Real f'n bad.
Yeah. That's the real objective truth. In Fallout's defense he is just following the arc all people new to the universe do though - "Humans! Space marines! These must be the good guys, right? RIGHT?" Ordo Malleus would like a word. In the grim darkness of the far future, there are no good guys.
@@youtubevoice1050 Yeah I guess the closest would be T'au, except that little "Conscript the Kroot into being cannon fodder" thing. Or maybe Craftworld Eldar, except that whole "Oops we partied so hard we made Sla'anesh! UwU our bad!" But Imperium of Man - not really at the top of the list
@@Ez.bake_evan well what else do we have? Necrons...yeah definitly not the good guys. Eldar? Nope. Orks? Nope. Chaos? Nope. Tyranids? Nope. Tau? Definitly not. So that leaves us with imperium...which had it's up and downs in the last ~10k years but at least right now with 2 primarchs back it doesn't look so bad. It was worse in the past.
@@Ez.bake_evan plus the space wolfes are also pretty good (not the most exciting Legion imo) but at least they fought against the Inquisition. More than once.
I mean Farsight enclaves, Harlequins and some Craftworlds are decent enough folk. Looking out for their people and not looking to start war unless necessary.
There has been confirmation that there is always an Armoury Data and a Geneseed on each run you play, on each mission. They both have their own spawn locations from each other and the rest of the other items. You just have to learn the spawn locations on each map, as there is multiple.
One extra thing I liked is the enemy rng. Every time I ran a mission over and over, different enemies popped up, well slightly different in terms of numbers and variety. So it's very refreshing.
OH, YES. I can imagine operations based on clearing a Space Hulk infested by Genestealers, or having to fight the Genestealer cults on the verge of taking over a city. It would be an amazing match for this game.
We are def getting Necrons a least, there are to many effects and assest in the game already with Necron stuff for them not to be added, Also its the Necrons they are fun as fuck!
The before last mission literally being doing loud bangs inside a tomb planet is kinda asking for them to wake up and kick our butts. Also Necron and Eldar lore is just super super over the top and incredible.
Lmao the whole game is just a hoard mode. The game is pretty, they reused wwZ tech for the boards, the controls are like 15 years old, the game in general feels about 10-15 years old with how it plays.
@@UhohGundamI’m kinda debating buying it but I’m affraid that the gameplay isn’t there but everything else kinda is. I’m a fan of 40k so that’s the biggest pull for me
@@DarkPyroZeroi can definitely see it becoming repetitive. If a person plays it for hours on end that will definitely happen. I personally don't get to play much so it'll take longer.
@@DarkPyroZero level up different classes and exploring new builds is how I’m staying busy. I do think the game needs some sort of randomly generated mission tileset with different objectives on each mission. Maybe you can extract whenever you want or it can be like warframe. In general a great base game but we need more game modes for PVE and PVP
That is a huge bad when comparing how much you pay for the game. You are pretty much done with this game in about 8 to 10 hours. Takes on average 6 hours or less to do campaign, and about 4 hours to realize you are just running the same mission over and over for XP grind...for what? PVP is buggy, and not balanced. Fanboys of this game are going to defend it no matter what. I get it.
Game has some problems beyond the 6-8 hour campaign. The gameplay/core combat-mechanics fall short for a lot of players. The melee-combat is clunky/weird.
As a long time 40k, Space Marine 2 is the kind of game we've been begging for. I love people getting to experience this rich universe for the first time. It's all fucked up :D
7:35 Gotta point out since you’re the third person I’ve seen taking it this way, there is absolutely no way the new enemy is a faction, it is definitely going to be a new enemy unit in the same faction. Think adding war beasts and gladiators to the cabal.
It might not say it on the road map, but there was some dev response to player feedback to getting an Apothecary class (a healer). So fingers crossed for that.
Why are so many people under the impression that “new enemy” HAS to be a new xenos? Like there’s no way in hell they’re making a brand new faction basically every season. A little bit of thinking would go a long way with that.
I’m really happy that this is a positive step into warhammer for so many. Though I think learning about Slaanesh is going to be pretty…uh…well I won’t spoilt it.
Honestly this is a 30$ 'Okay' arcade game (5/10) with Warhammer 40k varnish on it. Controls and gameplay (especially melee) are not satisfying. Campaign is done in 6-8 hours, then it's on to the super shallow and repetitive Operations or PvP. I cannot get myself to play it after 24hours. It is that... boring.
There is always armory data in the level. Just means you haven't gotten all the spawns. Also, you get credits even if you miss the armoury data, which imo is worth way more.
There is ALWAYS one armory data on the map, you just haven’t found it. Also if you find a side boss at higher difficulties (not sure if there’s always one) then you can get two armory data per mission.
Darktide and Vermintide 2 are still pretty poopular so Space Marine 2 is defintely going to retain a healthy playerbase for years to come, seeing as they have the same core gameplay loop
The combat system plays very different as it isn’t a cover shooter but the full game kept reminding me of Gears of war, if you enjoy that style you should like this.
great vid. love it, keep up the top shelf content. One thing to note for us PS5 players the ability to join and play with friends is limited due to some issue that they don't have a plan to fix yet. Sucks a lot of joy out of the game as you either can't play with friends at all, or don't all extract out of the mission together. I would recommend waiting on getting the game for ps5 if you're looking for the co-op. Other than that, hard agree with everything you said in the vid.
I also realise when hearing you wanting more, thats pretty much welcome to the warhammer world. We always want more and theres not enough time for GW or the devs to release.
To be fair, they said new enemy "type" as in a unit of tyranids and chaos marine, not a new "faction". That would be a hell of an undertaking as it would require story/lore reasons. But I could be wrong.
Been following your videos cause I play Destiny 2 religiously. Was looking for an honest review (so not IGN clearly) and your name popped up. Easy choice, and thanks for the thorough explanation! I am kinda hyped for this game cause I’ve just started to read the Horus Heresy.
9:21 i think its good that its introducing everything slowly, so that new players arent overbloated with so many things.. its like when i try playng miles morales, it took a while before i finally understand everything
really the fact that people are getting bored of the current missions and classes and wanting more content... shows its not got much substance. fun sure but for a $60 people want more than 4 or 5 days of fun. i want at least 100 hours of fun for my 60. game looks good but im not sure if it will give me my moneys worth yet. when did pvp become just kill player. that was always an option but there used to be far more options in pvp. whos team kills the most bugs. who kills the big titan faster. or complete missions while other team stops them. kill only gets boring i think. i am very disappointed by the campaign size for £60 i should have bare minimum of 50 hour campaign. i miss the old days when 50hour story was considered a short campaign :(
I haven't played any warhammer games before but I recently stumbled upon some lore videos which got me quite hooked. So I was thinking of getting this game. However I am a solo player and don't have any friends who would play this game. So is it worth buying for the solo player? Also it it like outriders?
New enemy _does not_ mean a new faction. Either Tyranids or Thousand Sons are getting a new enemy type added to their roster. That said Orcs or maybe a Chaos Warband would be a sweet addition later down the line.
Well, the singleplayer alone is worth it, if you like the genre and spectacle. It's also surprisingly challenging if you play on higher difficulties. The rest is a bonus. I enjoy the MP.
HEY JUST A SMALL EDIT AT THE MOMENT ! YOU CANNOT QUE WITH 5 PLAYERS IN PVP. - The devs are working on it but you can only squad up with 2 buddies. for both PVE and PVP
If you have never played a Warhammer 40k game before this... if you love RTS games, there are some more games that I loved. The Dawn of War series from like 20 years ago. Graphics are definitely dated, but still good and the story was really good.
If you want a 40k horde hack n slash that really encapsulates the 40k vibe... Darktide... the game has its faults, but the combat loop and visuals are phenomenal. You have miles more agency over the combat than you do in SM2
I did the campaign, and oh boy.... The good: it looks good, and somewhat feels good. The settings, the enemy design, the backgrounds, awesome, pretty. The bad: combat. Melee combat sucks. There really is no "strategy" to it as such. Once you understand what the fuck it is, it's just "push button when white, push button when red, push button at all other times". First 20 minutes, yea, it's epic, but it gets old very fast, and it just feels like you are playing quick time events for no reason. The bad: Ranged. Both enemy and you. Every encounter there are ranged units that drain your shields and health with pinpoint accuracy. But you can just shoot them to shit, right? Well, kind of. Bullets run out in about a minute and it becomes "tank guy runs around corners looking for ammo: the game". Gunplay is not 100% fun either. Average every encounter enemies will easily absorb a full clip of ammo. Average mele enemies will easily absorb a full clip. After 2 and a half encounters you are out of ammo and are forced to melee and boltgun. Considering you are carrying a god damn boltgun that is rated to bring down tanks, it feels bad. It's not fun to dump a mag into a regular enemy just to see the enemy dazed and flashing red. More enemies and significantly better bullet damage is a must for a game like this. Overall: Kind of fun, not worth 60 bucks, combat is frustrating more than fun.
I don't get how people are giving the game such high praise, when the core combat is extremely underwhelming and the controls are clunky/weird. As the honeymoon phase fades away, we see a lot more feedback like yours pop up.
I've only just started playing and like You, I absolutely love it, having never played a warhammer game oe anything but always been intrigued by the world its nothin g short of sheer WOW! Factor. Sure starting it it's absolutely mental, you get surrounded so easy and just murked but it's incredible.
How are you constantly dodging? I can’t do that on controller, it steps aside then dodges, then steps aside again, and dodges! I can’t perform successive dodges like on video… 😢
1st point of the bad part is the sole reason I'm not buying this game, as someone who played (still play from time to time) darktide, space marine 2 feels like the same game but as a space marine, and there's two things I like a lot in darktide besides the gameplay: the music and the randomness from the different character personalities, now I don't know how good the music for space marine 2 is or if the dialog is anything besides DIE HERETIC but so for I know nothing about it, IMO it's not worth the price and will happily wait for a sale or for it to drop on game pass
Not having hoarde mode from the beginning is insane. This game would have sold more if all it was was hoarde mode. Guess I'll wait a year or two and buy it after season 4 when it's half off.
It will definitely be worth buying when they finally fix the servers. Gameplay is amazing, but right now it’s a toss up of if you’ll even get to play or just get stuck in a load screen trying to start a mission. I have 16 hours into the game already, yet I’ve only done the stories tutorial, and 9 operations………..
I've been watching videos. I guess devs said no new enemy type like necrons or anything. They meant like new mob type. Not sure what that means exactly but they made sure to say not a new enemy type
so because of waiting for a buddy to be available, I have 90% of my playtime in SM2 in PvP. PvP is fucking GAS, and I will not hear any slander about it. This shit has got me like the ratatouille food critic, remembering the days of Halo CE or old Counterstrike deathmatch - simple, chunky, and fucking fun as hell. You need to put a little time in and unlock the cool weapons - the smg on sniper, the meltas, etc, but man it fights destiny pvp for how enjoyable it is once you do.
It's definitely a lot of fun. It will be like helldivers a blast for 2 months and get repetitive. Once the next expansion or story missions come out play again for another week and drop it.
The game seems lack of content . It will die before devs put something which actually create some raplayability . I would love to buy it but I will not. Another thing is why thousand sons are so 💩? They are also space marines they should be a challenge and I see hordes of them murdered with ease. Why they shit on the lore .
I am ok with a full priced great complete game, actually kinda miss it, bought the game played it for couple days now, nothing but good feed back , I take my time so content is a non issue for me right now, over all we need more of this kind bold, polished and complete games.
What it sounds like to me especially since im broke is to wait til the late 2025 to pick it up for 2 reasons: 1. It will be cheaper 2. It will have horde mode then. My biggest gripes with game these days is how short they are. I want 100 hour+ games. Right now this seems like a 40 hour game. Too much for too little. Maybe next year. Are all the content updates free btw?
My only "buyers beware" for this is currently a lot of console players are having network issues when trying to play with friends, constant "joining server" infinite loads or getting kicked at mission end with no rewards. All stuff I am sure will get worked out but can be frustrating since the main buying point is being a fun game with friends
Just hold until it is heavily discounted. You'll thank me for it. Or look at a bunch of gameplay footage and reviews before you buy. The 'Very Positive' on Steam = 'Very Misleading' and does not reflect the state of the game, just the length of the hype-train. You'll see a majority (even the people who recommend the game) say it is VERY short and somewhat repetitive. The people who don't recommend go further: to them it is boring and the gameplay/core-combat loop is 'average' at best.
For anyone who doesn’t know anything about warhammer lore but is starting to get into it because of this game, the imperium isn’t necessarily the “good guys” it’s more like siding with the nazis because you get invaded by the xenomorphs from alien…
I've been on the fence with this game, and given it only has 6 co-op operations, I think I'm gonna wait until they release the horde mode, and hopefully there will be more operations too. I appreciate the review.
New enemies coming are single enemy unit types, not races... If you want Orks, pick up Space marine 1 and have fun with a better story, better characters, and honestly, more satisfying combat
Goin live on T word site. Also, I have oneeeee last full game code to raffle away too (Ultra Edition!)
Liar, it's been nearly a full minute and still not live. 😮
The "new enemy" is not a new enemy race just a new unit from the tyranids or chaos. so i feel alot of people are getting the wrong expectations from the roadmap.
There is a new class coming it’s an apothecary (space marine medic)
Pretty sure the new Enemy isn't a whole new faction. But more likely a new minions.
Can my son and I play with you?
Even questioning not buying it sounds like some serious heresy
Fetch the heavy flamer brother.
Well I'm not buying it
@@DarkPyroZerome either. Seems really clunky to me
Really you guys missed the reference so im guessing this game isn't for you. @jimmcmeen761 @@DarkPyroZero
Call the inquisitor
Warframe and Terminids, the third person shooter calls to this man's soul.
Surprised he didn't mention Lancers...
.....Warhammer... not warframe, completely different things.
Fallout, I say this with the utmost love and respect for all your content: Imperium of Man: Bad. Enemies of the Imperium: Bad. Everything in the WH universe: Real f'n bad.
Yeah. That's the real objective truth. In Fallout's defense he is just following the arc all people new to the universe do though - "Humans! Space marines! These must be the good guys, right? RIGHT?"
Ordo Malleus would like a word.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there are no good guys.
the Adeptus Mechanicus facilities and the lack of care for the death of any guardsman during combat should've been a tell-tale sign lol
@drepie7537 nah man they have the corpse starch factory for the gaurdsmen
@@amethystlegion I mean ... there is no 100% good, there's "kinda good-ish but with problems" and then there's "really bad".
@@youtubevoice1050 Yeah I guess the closest would be T'au, except that little "Conscript the Kroot into being cannon fodder" thing. Or maybe Craftworld Eldar, except that whole "Oops we partied so hard we made Sla'anesh! UwU our bad!"
But Imperium of Man - not really at the top of the list
"imperium of man = good" - oh sweet summer child...
Well pretty much the closest to being the good guys.
@@mrdonates7320the Salamanders are the only legion/chapter in the Imperium you could say are good guys.
Exactly. Fascist, religious zealots are usually considered villains lol. But I guess they would be hero’s to some people 😂
@@Ez.bake_evan well what else do we have? Necrons...yeah definitly not the good guys.
Eldar? Nope. Orks? Nope. Chaos? Nope. Tyranids? Nope. Tau? Definitly not.
So that leaves us with imperium...which had it's up and downs in the last ~10k years but at least right now with 2 primarchs back it doesn't look so bad. It was worse in the past.
@@Ez.bake_evan plus the space wolfes are also pretty good (not the most exciting Legion imo) but at least they fought against the Inquisition. More than once.
Glad to see some of my favorite Destiny creators covering WH40K
Hahah I read that as Disney because of his soy voice
There are no good guys in the 40K universe
Ever heard of the Tyranids? smh
Salamanders as good as it gets.
@@HighKnighterSALAMANDERS MENTIONED!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS CRUELTY TO CIVILIANS OF THE IMPERIUM!!!!
I mean Farsight enclaves, Harlequins and some Craftworlds are decent enough folk. Looking out for their people and not looking to start war unless necessary.
You could make an argument for the Tau. But mainly because how ignorant they are to the universe at large
1:40 warframe lmao
I caught that too
XD
Oopsie
When you hop games as much as this grifter, you’re bound to make mistakes
@@okieclipper5783 I taste salt
@@phillipgamer2222 then don't drink seawater?
There has been confirmation that there is always an Armoury Data and a Geneseed on each run you play, on each mission. They both have their own spawn locations from each other and the rest of the other items. You just have to learn the spawn locations on each map, as there is multiple.
I don’t believe that at all. I have done several runs and checked every corner and cant find any armoury data. Has happened a few times now.
Armory data is 100% certain to spawn just like the gene seed you just have to be aware of the spawn points on each map
One extra thing I liked is the enemy rng. Every time I ran a mission over and over, different enemies popped up, well slightly different in terms of numbers and variety. So it's very refreshing.
@0:41 loooool - such a rookie mistake! In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future there is only War. And there are no good guys!
The new enemy rather refer to a new enemy for existing factions, hopefully genestealers
OH, YES. I can imagine operations based on clearing a Space Hulk infested by Genestealers, or having to fight the Genestealer cults on the verge of taking over a city. It would be an amazing match for this game.
Genestealers seem the most likely but considering all the Necron references and nods in the campaign MAN am i really hoping we get the Necrons.
We are def getting Necrons a least, there are to many effects and assest in the game already with Necron stuff for them not to be added, Also its the Necrons they are fun as fuck!
New enemy type I’d like to see is Necrons for sure.
You know what Helldivers fans are like, they'll accuse GW of stealing their designs ;)
The before last mission literally being doing loud bangs inside a tomb planet is kinda asking for them to wake up and kick our butts. Also Necron and Eldar lore is just super super over the top and incredible.
Devs already said they're only releasing new units for the Tyraninds, no new race being added
They need a new license for all that.
@@DarkPyroZero yeah I’m aware. A entire new race wouldn’t fit in the current game. One can dream though.
"knee deep in dudes almost the entire time" - Fallout 2024 4:04
Just like college
Couldn't help but give a little childish laugh at this either... 😂
I don't need the context
He knew what he was saying
Aw yeah
The horde mode not being part of the game is a criminal slip up. I'll pay 10 bucks extra if they added it today
@kcisthe1st it's coming just not today brother
Thats what she said my magos
Lmao the whole game is just a hoard mode. The game is pretty, they reused wwZ tech for the boards, the controls are like 15 years old, the game in general feels about 10-15 years old with how it plays.
@@UhohGundamI’m kinda debating buying it but I’m affraid that the gameplay isn’t there but everything else kinda is. I’m a fan of 40k so that’s the biggest pull for me
@@UhohGundamwould you say it’s over hyped?
There is no bad besides needing more content now
It's hella repetitive, so yeahhhhhhhh it's kinda boring tbh, already run out of content
@@DarkPyroZeroi can definitely see it becoming repetitive. If a person plays it for hours on end that will definitely happen. I personally don't get to play much so it'll take longer.
We're getting free classes and weapons over time
@@DarkPyroZero level up different classes and exploring new builds is how I’m staying busy. I do think the game needs some sort of randomly generated mission tileset with different objectives on each mission. Maybe you can extract whenever you want or it can be like warframe.
In general a great base game but we need more game modes for PVE and PVP
That is a huge bad when comparing how much you pay for the game. You are pretty much done with this game in about 8 to 10 hours. Takes on average 6 hours or less to do campaign, and about 4 hours to realize you are just running the same mission over and over for XP grind...for what? PVP is buggy, and not balanced. Fanboys of this game are going to defend it no matter what. I get it.
80$ for this little of content is crazy. We need to start holding developers to higher standards (especially devs who push out broken games)
base game is $100 plus tax Canadian for a 10 hour campaign... big no for me.
What other games look this good though??
Gears without objects, wall cover or gore, weapon pickups!!!!! slowed down! Like no maps … lmao 😅wow gaming is dead
@@deemarshall77that’s not including side quests tho.. it’s more like 20 hrs total give or take a hit. 20 hrs plays multiplayer.
Game has some problems beyond the 6-8 hour campaign. The gameplay/core combat-mechanics fall short for a lot of players. The melee-combat is clunky/weird.
i have little desire to grind the 6 strikes over and over just to unlock cosmetics and all the perks on even one class
Is that what end game is?
Yeah it's pretty terrible lol
@@PsyDuck89 I’ve been pretty close to buying this game. Glad I didn’t.
As a long time 40k, Space Marine 2 is the kind of game we've been begging for. I love people getting to experience this rich universe for the first time. It's all fucked up :D
7:35 Gotta point out since you’re the third person I’ve seen taking it this way, there is absolutely no way the new enemy is a faction, it is definitely going to be a new enemy unit in the same faction. Think adding war beasts and gladiators to the cabal.
Depression is gone
Good ol t rue vanjard. Hes doing the emperors work
1:40 referring to Warhammer as Warframe is indeed being reported to the Inquisition. Count your days.
"Wanting more" is one of the best criticisms a game can get.
Why make short game tgeb
@@BlackPillVillain Have you ever finished a meal and thought, "That was amazing, but I wish there was less food?"
That PVE mission thumbnail's feeling real Nurgle-y to me. More Chaos factions!
It might not say it on the road map, but there was some dev response to player feedback to getting an Apothecary class (a healer). So fingers crossed for that.
"You're gonna be knee deep in dudes"
-FalloutPlays
Man i wish i had friends right about now
After my holiday I’m looking to jump in with some mates. Years back I painted up these little guys so looking to get back out there
Now i need a game like this, but we play as orks.
Why are so many people under the impression that “new enemy” HAS to be a new xenos? Like there’s no way in hell they’re making a brand new faction basically every season. A little bit of thinking would go a long way with that.
I’m really happy that this is a positive step into warhammer for so many. Though I think learning about Slaanesh is going to be pretty…uh…well I won’t spoilt it.
I wanna get the game but then see how repetitive it looks and how short it is I’m just like eh
Honestly this is a 30$ 'Okay' arcade game (5/10) with Warhammer 40k varnish on it.
Controls and gameplay (especially melee) are not satisfying.
Campaign is done in 6-8 hours, then it's on to the super shallow and repetitive Operations or PvP.
I cannot get myself to play it after 24hours. It is that... boring.
There is always armory data in the level. Just means you haven't gotten all the spawns. Also, you get credits even if you miss the armoury data, which imo is worth way more.
@ 10:50 This was the perfect time to plug your discord and encourage people to join your community and LFG.
at least the fandom got some decent footage to keep making more "all Warhammer 4k factions explained in hour and a half" videos
There is ALWAYS one armory data on the map, you just haven’t found it. Also if you find a side boss at higher difficulties (not sure if there’s always one) then you can get two armory data per mission.
Asking something like this is heresy. You should own this game for at least a week now
I can't wait for fallout to come across all of the nicknames for the primarch of the ultramarines... my favorite is rubberbutt girlyman personally
Same. First time ever playing it I bought it on a whim....I'm in love. Literally just finished Byfs video
Darktide and Vermintide 2 are still pretty poopular so Space Marine 2 is defintely going to retain a healthy playerbase for years to come, seeing as they have the same core gameplay loop
The combat system plays very different as it isn’t a cover shooter but the full game kept reminding me of Gears of war, if you enjoy that style you should like this.
great vid. love it, keep up the top shelf content. One thing to note for us PS5 players the ability to join and play with friends is limited due to some issue that they don't have a plan to fix yet. Sucks a lot of joy out of the game as you either can't play with friends at all, or don't all extract out of the mission together. I would recommend waiting on getting the game for ps5 if you're looking for the co-op. Other than that, hard agree with everything you said in the vid.
I also realise when hearing you wanting more, thats pretty much welcome to the warhammer world. We always want more and theres not enough time for GW or the devs to release.
To be fair, they said new enemy "type" as in a unit of tyranids and chaos marine, not a new "faction". That would be a hell of an undertaking as it would require story/lore reasons. But I could be wrong.
Been following your videos cause I play Destiny 2 religiously. Was looking for an honest review (so not IGN clearly) and your name popped up. Easy choice, and thanks for the thorough explanation! I am kinda hyped for this game cause I’ve just started to read the Horus Heresy.
“Imperium of Man, good” according to Games Workshop that’s definitely not true.
9:21 i think its good that its introducing everything slowly, so that new players arent overbloated with so many things..
its like when i try playng miles morales, it took a while before i finally understand everything
really the fact that people are getting bored of the current missions and classes and wanting more content... shows its not got much substance. fun sure but for a $60 people want more than 4 or 5 days of fun. i want at least 100 hours of fun for my 60. game looks good but im not sure if it will give me my moneys worth yet.
when did pvp become just kill player. that was always an option but there used to be far more options in pvp. whos team kills the most bugs. who kills the big titan faster.
or complete missions while other team stops them. kill only gets boring i think.
i am very disappointed by the campaign size for £60 i should have bare minimum of 50 hour campaign. i miss the old days when 50hour story was considered a short campaign :(
I haven't played any warhammer games before but I recently stumbled upon some lore videos which got me quite hooked. So I was thinking of getting this game. However I am a solo player and don't have any friends who would play this game. So is it worth buying for the solo player?
Also it it like outriders?
New enemy _does not_ mean a new faction. Either Tyranids or Thousand Sons are getting a new enemy type added to their roster.
That said Orcs or maybe a Chaos Warband would be a sweet addition later down the line.
Well I mean we already found a tomb world and made quite a bit of noise on it.
Well, the singleplayer alone is worth it, if you like the genre and spectacle. It's also surprisingly challenging if you play on higher difficulties. The rest is a bonus. I enjoy the MP.
armory data always drops on a mission. its in one of the four fixed locations. you need to know where they spawn to find em lol
Horde Mode is coming in spring so that’s not too far away.
HEY JUST A SMALL EDIT
AT THE MOMENT ! YOU CANNOT QUE WITH 5 PLAYERS IN PVP. - The devs are working on it but you can only squad up with 2 buddies. for both PVE and PVP
If you have never played a Warhammer 40k game before this... if you love RTS games, there are some more games that I loved. The Dawn of War series from like 20 years ago. Graphics are definitely dated, but still good and the story was really good.
If you want a 40k horde hack n slash that really encapsulates the 40k vibe... Darktide... the game has its faults, but the combat loop and visuals are phenomenal. You have miles more agency over the combat than you do in SM2
40 seconds in and bro gave em bad and good lables lmao no no no no fallout everyone is a bad guy in 40k
The Tau will at least attempt diplomacy before resorting to genocide.
If i dont have friends to play multiplayer with is it still worth buying?
As a warhammer fan this game tickled my pickle in so many ways
If you're a Warhammer fanboy, yes. Otherwise no and go play the first game.
Then look at this game again and reconsider 🤷♂️
I did the campaign, and oh boy....
The good: it looks good, and somewhat feels good. The settings, the enemy design, the backgrounds, awesome, pretty.
The bad: combat. Melee combat sucks. There really is no "strategy" to it as such. Once you understand what the fuck it is, it's just "push button when white, push button when red, push button at all other times". First 20 minutes, yea, it's epic, but it gets old very fast, and it just feels like you are playing quick time events for no reason.
The bad: Ranged. Both enemy and you. Every encounter there are ranged units that drain your shields and health with pinpoint accuracy. But you can just shoot them to shit, right? Well, kind of. Bullets run out in about a minute and it becomes "tank guy runs around corners looking for ammo: the game". Gunplay is not 100% fun either. Average every encounter enemies will easily absorb a full clip of ammo. Average mele enemies will easily absorb a full clip. After 2 and a half encounters you are out of ammo and are forced to melee and boltgun. Considering you are carrying a god damn boltgun that is rated to bring down tanks, it feels bad. It's not fun to dump a mag into a regular enemy just to see the enemy dazed and flashing red. More enemies and significantly better bullet damage is a must for a game like this.
Overall: Kind of fun, not worth 60 bucks, combat is frustrating more than fun.
I don't get how people are giving the game such high praise, when the core combat is extremely underwhelming and the controls are clunky/weird.
As the honeymoon phase fades away, we see a lot more feedback like yours pop up.
I've only just started playing and like You, I absolutely love it, having never played a warhammer game oe anything but always been intrigued by the world its nothin g short of sheer WOW! Factor. Sure starting it it's absolutely mental, you get surrounded so easy and just murked but it's incredible.
No.
How are you constantly dodging? I can’t do that on controller, it steps aside then dodges, then steps aside again, and dodges! I can’t perform successive dodges like on video… 😢
1st point of the bad part is the sole reason I'm not buying this game, as someone who played (still play from time to time) darktide, space marine 2 feels like the same game but as a space marine, and there's two things I like a lot in darktide besides the gameplay: the music and the randomness from the different character personalities, now I don't know how good the music for space marine 2 is or if the dialog is anything besides DIE HERETIC but so for I know nothing about it, IMO it's not worth the price and will happily wait for a sale or for it to drop on game pass
Not having hoarde mode from the beginning is insane. This game would have sold more if all it was was hoarde mode. Guess I'll wait a year or two and buy it after season 4 when it's half off.
Not even a minute into the video and he called the imperium the good guys lmao
Bwahahaa shout out to the Warframe slip of the tongue about a minute and a half in xD I did it constantly talking to my wife about this game....
It will definitely be worth buying when they finally fix the servers. Gameplay is amazing, but right now it’s a toss up of if you’ll even get to play or just get stuck in a load screen trying to start a mission.
I have 16 hours into the game already, yet I’ve only done the stories tutorial, and 9 operations………..
Great video, spot on analysis, I bought the game and am working up to Holy S***. Fallout hit the nail on the head with this one.
I've been watching videos. I guess devs said no new enemy type like necrons or anything. They meant like new mob type. Not sure what that means exactly but they made sure to say not a new enemy type
so because of waiting for a buddy to be available, I have 90% of my playtime in SM2 in PvP.
PvP is fucking GAS, and I will not hear any slander about it. This shit has got me like the ratatouille food critic, remembering the days of Halo CE or old Counterstrike deathmatch - simple, chunky, and fucking fun as hell. You need to put a little time in and unlock the cool weapons - the smg on sniper, the meltas, etc, but man it fights destiny pvp for how enjoyable it is once you do.
It's definitely a lot of fun. It will be like helldivers a blast for 2 months and get repetitive. Once the next expansion or story missions come out play again for another week and drop it.
The game seems lack of content . It will die before devs put something which actually create some raplayability . I would love to buy it but I will not. Another thing is why thousand sons are so 💩? They are also space marines they should be a challenge and I see hordes of them murdered with ease. Why they shit on the lore .
Great review. Love your D2 content and glad to see you review WH
I am ok with a full priced great complete game, actually kinda miss it, bought the game played it for couple days now, nothing but good feed back , I take my time so content is a non issue for me right now, over all we need more of this kind bold, polished and complete games.
Imagine the worst thing about a game being that it is so good, we just NEED MORE!!!
grew up on gears of war and this game has been really fun so far
just so you know the devs said they won't be adding new factions when they say new enemy it's a unit from the two existing factions in the game
What it sounds like to me especially since im broke is to wait til the late 2025 to pick it up for 2 reasons:
1. It will be cheaper
2. It will have horde mode then.
My biggest gripes with game these days is how short they are. I want 100 hour+ games. Right now this seems like a 40 hour game. Too much for too little. Maybe next year.
Are all the content updates free btw?
I think there gonna introduce a new specialist enemy when they say new enemy but I really hope that it’s necrons or orks they add in
it’s pretty dope……ass kicking marines, big guns, rivers of aliens, what more could you want in life?
Anything about the matchmaking being broken? Seems like kinda big issue.
Except that it isn’t?
My only "buyers beware" for this is currently a lot of console players are having network issues when trying to play with friends, constant "joining server" infinite loads or getting kicked at mission end with no rewards. All stuff I am sure will get worked out but can be frustrating since the main buying point is being a fun game with friends
I was gonna buy it but it’s 110 dollars for the base version 💀
Just hold until it is heavily discounted. You'll thank me for it. Or look at a bunch of gameplay footage and reviews before you buy.
The 'Very Positive' on Steam = 'Very Misleading' and does not reflect the state of the game, just the length of the hype-train.
You'll see a majority (even the people who recommend the game) say it is VERY short and somewhat repetitive.
The people who don't recommend go further: to them it is boring and the gameplay/core-combat loop is 'average' at best.
When they add new classes Im hoping for Librarian/Chaplain and maybe Apothecary
"imperium of man = good (no heresy allowed)" 👀👀
60 bucks for a 6-hour campaign and six missions for endgame? I almost bought this. Thx for the heads-up.
Gears without objects, wall cover or gore, weapon pickups!!!!! slowed down! Like no maps … lmao 😅wow gaming is dead
For anyone who doesn’t know anything about warhammer lore but is starting to get into it because of this game, the imperium isn’t necessarily the “good guys” it’s more like siding with the nazis because you get invaded by the xenomorphs from alien…
The way ive described it to friends who are interested in the game is gears of war mashed together with god of war, then turn it into a horde shooter
You should definitely try dawn of war, probably the best RTS game in existence
Just finished the campaign and I loved it, after yrs of same destiny drivel this was a great experience, can't wait for horde mode
Yes. Yes it is.
I've been on the fence with this game, and given it only has 6 co-op operations, I think I'm gonna wait until they release the horde mode, and hopefully there will be more operations too. I appreciate the review.
Why would executing and enemy regenerate armour?
Of course it is I knew nothing about it a month ago now it's easily one of the best games this year.
New enemies coming are single enemy unit types, not races... If you want Orks, pick up Space marine 1 and have fun with a better story, better characters, and honestly, more satisfying combat
“Knee deep in dudes” is crazy hahaha