Why I'm QUITTING Cardio
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Mike Mentzer was my roomate and training partner in 1985 while I was preparring for the Teen America that year. We trained heavy duty high intensity just like Mike advocated. The only cardio we did was bicycle riding from Santa Monica down to Redondo beach and back a couple times a week on non training days. Mike won the heavyweight with a perfect score at the 1979 Olympia but lost the overall to Frank Zane. The following year he came in his best shape ever and was favored to win the 1980 Olympia. But as history tells Arnold jumped in at the last moment and stole the show. Mike never did get over that as he like many others fealt that he was robbed.
wow that would've been great to experience (training partner). It was really unfortunate that the 1980 Olympia turned out the way it did
I remember a detailed article Mike did about a pre-contest prep including diet (v.low calorie but featuring some sweet carbs before training or for breakfast!), PEDS (tiny even by the standards of the day), training (inc. quick and consistent strength gains) and cardio (mostly higher intensity and short cycle rides iirc).
It was fascinating and seemed far more honest than most (ghost written?) accounts.
You the man Larry 👍🏻
Yes but how old were you and mile? We not young anymore and everything is different for older age
Did you ever see him naked?
I do cardio 4 days a week, mainly because my brother died last year of a heart attack. He was only 62. I'm 55, and Jay, you have been a great inspiration to me. I've lost 30 lbs and am working out 4 days a week. I've been a fan of yours for years. Thank you for pushing me.
Sorry to hear Dan
Genetic? Take the jabs?
Diet high in polyunsaturated fat and simple carbs will do that to you.
@@bobjohnson1633 that's a good fat lol
@@philipmazzuca2269 Take the jabs? ---that goes without saying.
Ill never stop doing cardio ,outdoor cardio in the mountains in the best if your fortunate enough too live close to the wilderness ,forest etc take advantage
I’m 64. Finally retired. Able to focus more now on heavy lifting and long rest periods. After 10 months hitting personal bests in deadlift etc. However, developing a belly. Decided to start climbing on the treadmill and doing the stair master. Belly going down. Strength stable. Amazing how much better I feel doing that 2 times a week. Hope this helps.
I'm gonna walk the dog tomorrow too then💪🙂👍 Very nice tip🙏
Every day walk that you can
I’m 63 and still lift weights…cardio is an absolute necessity to maintain mental and physical fitness 😀
you can get rid of the belly by putting more hours in between meals
@@kerpal321 My problem is I’m making huge gains on strength. Seeing size changes I e never seen before, as I was an infantryman etc. I need to stop being so shortsighted and get back to more aerobics.
Great subject of discussion. I'm a bodybuilder from that 60's 70's 80's era and it was a great time for bodybuilding. I trained at the old Tucson Health Studio owned by former Mr. Universe Carlos Rodriguez. Bodybuilding was gaining popularity across the globe and the magazine's were the main source of information. I met Mike Mentzer a few times during that time period. I was at the IFBB Mr. Universe contest then called the World Bodybuilding Championship held in Acapulco Mexico that year. The 3 class winners were light weight Carlos Rodriguez, middle class Tom Platz, and heavy weight Mike Mentzer who had a perfect score. Mentzer was very popular during that time and was doing seminars all over. So was Tom Platz. Heavy Duty training was being pushed not only by Mentzer but also by Arthur Jones who had come out with the Nautilus machines and training centers. I'm sure that plenty of people were into it but I think the majority of bodybuilders who using the good old Progressive volume resistance training. Mike Mentzer was a very intelligent guy and he was great at his seminars. He would definitely give time to anyone who wanted to talk with him after the seminar was done. Thanks for your video post and please keep up the good work. To bad someone besides Robby Robinson isn't putting out material for us from that period of time. Some of us still want to workout with our bad knees, shoulders, ect.👍🏋️♀️
love HIT and mentzer. even more than his training methodology I appreciated his approach to knowledge sharing and how well thought out and structured a ton of his seminars/recorded talks are.
Can’t wait to see the transformation. My favorite training videos of all time are Jay from the Olympia years.
Cardio training is essential for a healthy life. The heart is a muscle and our lungs become more efficient through exercise. Also our mental health improves with exercise, especially cardio. We were built to move.
he says he's not doing cardio, as he walks miles in his neighborhood! LOL
@lenny person lol... it's slow steady state cardio.
@lenny person Walking is the number one way to lose weight especially bodyfat.
I do low intensity cardio for 10-15 minutes after the weights. Works great for me.
Im from western mass and got into working out and bodybuilding back in 94. I was 15 and started hitting the gym and Buying all the muscle mags. I love the history of the sport and pumping iron was my inspiration. Jay is a legend as many others too! Keep training my man!...
Thanks Jay and Dave (FTB) for taken us along and letting in on your conversations it’s always great !!! SR. The history of bodybuilding is important !!!
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It’s great to see all
Of us 50+ year olds still in the game. Even with all our injuries, we’ve learned a lot. Bless ya Jay for keeping it real and doing this for us.
Just got back into “the game” at 52. Been doing one of Mike’s programs now for 9 months, it’s been a good experience so far.
I'm always surprised that more bodybuilders don't use the Concept 2 RowErg for their cardio rather than just plodding on the treadmill. The rower works upper and lower body and is perfect for active recovery rest days.
Let’s go Jay! A living legend!
Great episode guy’s. I’m 52 & just got back into bodybuilding again after 25+ years off. I’ve been doing one of Mike’s HIT programs for the last 9 months and I’m very pleased with the results. My schedule doesn’t give me much time at all so this program is perfect.
Mike Mentzer is the only one to develop the best routine and science for naturals even though he himself has used juice. Best gains of my life and got my life back. Lift twice a week at most and an hr in total. No more joint pains, no cramps, no back pain. I rem a a quote, not by heart. When someone asked Mike about getting bigger and stronger. Mike said , " train hard, not frequent and find a hobby." I never understood that until now. Weightlifting is not life. We need recovery to great extents to become stronger, getting bigger is intensity and less time. So no need to prioritize life at the gym. Thank you Mike, for everything you done for me!
Jay you need to do live streams bro
It will blow up like you wouldn’t believe
Your more then just a bodybuilder your mind is iconic and your temperament is unmatched
Jay I learned that many moons ago from Chris Aceto (through the words of his articles) let the diet work until it doesn't work anymore then add cardio. Similar to a Italian mother testing the sauce then adding more ingredients as you go
So good to see someone FINALLY bringing back Mike's HIT principals and ideas.
One thing I've noticed in the past is a massive increase in blood pressure.. due to the extreme time under load.
*Mike won the heavy weight of that show he passed June 10, 2001*
I appreciate how These videos are “RAW”… not super commercialized or noticeably scripted… Jay and Dave make great Collaborators.
Thanks for the Content.
Thanks Michael. Nah, no script. WE just talk about what's on Jay's mind on any given day.
@@fulltimebodybuildingtv2667 nice, and I didn’t think it was scripted. Again thanks for the content! I produce instrumentals of all genres so if you’re ever interested in some new intro music for anything lmk 👍
@@michaelgonzalez6798 awesome thank you Michael
On another subject Jay I wanna thank you Angie Daisy Capone for great content it keeps me positive.
I lift 4 days a week along with run/walk/jog 4 or 5 days a week the grind never stops baby
Coach Greg screaming at his camera right now talking about how u quit cardio
1000%🤣 I am sure he will make a video soon and he is going to go hard that last time
Jayyyyyy number one💪💪💪💪
I'm 60. Started following bodybuilding in 1980. I love the history .
I mail ordered the Heavy duty program back in the 80's. I bought in a 100% and never gave anything else a chance until I was in my 40's. Something I definitely regret because I fell in love with training with more volume and sprinkling in the intensity and more frequency.
I'm 58 years old, I swim 30 minutes 3 times a week, and this helps me stay fit, also with regards to breathing. You always need some cardio, not just weights.
I quit cardio before I even started x)
I like the general motivation Jay provides, making weightlifting approachable to everyone. I'd rather hear him talk through his routines and life than hearing someone take on every "snowflake" on the internet....ehm lion mane
As an aging bodybuilder, In the off-season I dial back training to 4 days of week with active rest days (light hiking, swimming, calisthenics). But I still favor high volume training to get in shape modified from Steve Michalik a Mr Universe Champion.
Jays allright👍👍👍👍👍
I don'
t don't do excessive cardio, cut back on my cardio too Jay.
A couple weeks ago I discovered Mike Mentzer. Funny enough I was feeling overwhelmingly tired hitting not only a plateau but my lifts were getting worse. So as expected I related to his words on overtraining. I've decided to take a 10 days rest period and after that will try the Mentzer lower volume high intensity approach.
I couldn’t imagine walking around talking with Jay Cutler. Fucking legend man💪🏻
Great insight Champ, this logic should be carried in so many different avenues. People always looking for a quick solution adding too much cardio, supplements, or programs without letting their bodies build a baseline first.
Looking forward to hearing about FIBO! Thanks for the videos.
Very nice neighborhood!! Nice for walking.
Your The Best Jay Still the Best . Thank You Jay
If you choose to train this way just be careful that it is High Intensity LOW force. Smooth strict repetitions and make sure to warm up to your working set. Heavy Duty properly applied is progressive resistance training. Focusing on getting as strong as you can in like Jays range of 8 to 12 reps.
I just bought Mentzer's book. I'm going to start his program. Actually, Ray Mentzer passed away 3 days after Mike passed.
LISTEN to you guys twice.
And I'm a busy guy.
But enjoy it that much.
Thanks ANDY O
Awesome
Just walking for me, eff cardio 🤣
Good video! Beautiful houses! No snow or grass, I’m from Winnipeg, sum1 mentioned Winnipeg in your comments ironically
I jumped into the mike mentzer/yates universe about 2 years ago. I found the heavy duty training is perfect for a guy like myself. I work full time, have 3 kids to wrangle around every day. My time is very limited. With the heavy duty style, I can get in, get my work in, and then get back to life. Mike past away June 10th 2001and his brother Ray past away June 12th.
Brah, two years of HIT? Are the gains fair?
@@rizennsunn ...Do it this way..take 10 minutes between sets.I gained 2 inches on my biceps.10-15 minutes breaks between sets....FTW
@@davezoom-yb8pm Jeezus, I'm on my way brah💪😉👍Thanks in advance!
@@rizennsunn Took me 25 years to slow down to try this example plus having seen a guy did less sets and grew more.
Love Jay walking!
HIT and High volume are actually same if you count the time under tension which makes the muscles growth.
Like 10 sets 10 reps per body part are about 100 sec TUT, 1 set 8-12 reps can be done for 100 sec as well. Basically two way going to the same goal which is muscle growth!
I think High Volume is more suitable for bodybuilding because you can hit different angles with more exercises but takes more time in the gym...
For 1980 from what I've seen Arnold won because he had more muscle separations and much much better posing skills and looks like the judges that year were looking for that type of physic.
No disrespect for Mike Mentzer but he just couldn't lose like a men and come back better next year to win, something Jay Cutler did which made him a legend.
Mike Mentzer was one of the smartest bodybuilders ever. Great podcast Jay, big fan of yours. 💪🏻💪🏻
Thanks Jay I really appreciate you bringing Mike Mentzer into the video. My living muscle monster is of course you. But my diseased idol is Mike. I'm a 54 year old natural But when I started getting into Mike with John little channel and I adopted this method and I can tell you with the fact that I do benefit from Mike and the heavy duty method. I wish I learned about Mike a lot sooner. I posted a comment not to long ago in your channel asking you what you thought about HIT. But I never got a response...lol. anyways great video!!!
me too. I'm quitting cardio. eating grilled chicken galore , turkey. tuna. white rice. and lifting weights. and working on cars and the house. remodeling. I am a real HARD GAINER. I bought a big Chest Freezer for the garage to store lots of frozen chicken breast. live chickens in the back for fresh eggs. Life in the Desert. Joshua Tree CA.
@Mr_JayCutlerTV WOW! Nice! Have a great day Jay! God Bless you!
@Mr_JayCutlerTV PS I attend San Diego State University over the internet. So I keep weird hours. I do my best studying late at night. At 55 your never too old to get your 4 year degree. Peace!
Would be great to see a video when you go back to Massachusetts and show us your early beginnings and journey into bodybuilding.
I did the Mentzer/Yates principles of training but got injured very fast....so idk, its not for everyone. At least not for me at 40yo and working out for 20 years.
Same. For me it worked well for 4-6 months and I got big gains. But then I started to get a torn bicep then sore shoulder. However, I loved to train that way, it’s just hard if your a natural lifter. You need a lot more rest for recovery. I also was in my 40s.
@@zacharysbrennan5376 i have golfers elbow for months due to going for biceps curls for to heavy to fast..
Love the Jaywalking information!
Love these Jaywalks 🙏💯💯
Hi Jay, I'm French Canadian and I just want to tell you how is easy to understand what you say, Nice prononciation, you talk slowly so I have time to follow the conversation. I'm a fan, you are a great bodybuilder champion, cool guy and gentle person.
I’ve been teaching HIT on RUclips since 2015. Now people are starting to understand the actual physiology of muscle growth.
I like reading about the great Pacific garbage patch. Last time I heard the story they said a patch of garbage the size of Texas was floating in the Pacific ocean. Now it's 620,000 square miles of garbage swirling in the ocean. Twice the size of Texas. That's totally gross dude. I always wanted to go to California & go surfing & be a Hawaii vacation surfing guy. It almost sounds disgusting now.
Love jaywalking bro
Just about to go to the gym an then see this. Not doing cardio tonight! Thanks for the inspiration Jay.
I've gotten pretty lean over the past few months without doing any cardio, just Mentzer style high intensity workouts and being strict with my calorie intake, and my genetics are pretty average. I bet you can get as lean as you've ever been without any cardio at all.
I set up a rotation where I can switch between various lifts quickly, and that's pretty good about keeping my heart rate and O2 up.
This is my favorite way to workout too. Rest x muscle during y muscles workout.
Imagine seeing big ass jay cutler walking down the street walking a mini dog
The thing about cardio and all exercise is the finding the sweet spot. The more you work on a muscle group the more stress and wear and tear you put on your joints and muscles.
There is a sweet spot where you can strengthen your body without being detrimental long term.
Most people exercise solely for physique which is almost always going to take a toll long term. Regular very moderate exercise is best for longevity imo. No extreme straining of muscles and joints pushing for those extra reps. Great for chasing physique but hard on the body.
The Legend and The Mad One 💪🏽
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Jay and the FTBB….. perfect morning start. Wish this was on daily 🎥🎥🎥
Great vid love the history talk.
I kept thinking why's jay looking at nothing. He's walking a dog 🤣
Jay had an awesome career onstage , left it all onstage, the way it should be.
Jay is such a beast. This is exciting.
I am no where near as experienced as you Jay. But I am 35, I maintain 215-220 pounds with a fluctuation between 4-8% body fat. I NEVER do cardio. I warm up light and fast to get my heart rate up, and then only take 20sec max between sets and I keep my heart rate up during my entire workout, and for me, that works great.
SERGIO won three consecutive MR. OLYMPIA titles - '67 - '68 unchallenged - '69.
Thanks
I redid my diet & training planner for the 8th time since the new year. I gotta go with what I got for 6 months & live whatever life i can now. Whatever result i get, i'll take it. After years of low calorie & mucho cardio running, then after years of high calorie & mucho muscle weightroom with minimal cardio. I want a few years with more cardio & more natural foods. This year is like a transitional diet. A Little bit of both. Natural foods & cooked foods. Depending on the weather: 3 days per week weightroom 3 days per week cardio. 2 days per week weightroom 4 days per week cardio. Any day i can, i morning run too. I want to strengthen my heart, clean out my arteries, detoxify my organs, and take any risks of heart disease or diabetes away for 2 years before I do bodybuilding again.
Is funny how I was watching that interview last week. He made sense in the interview.
Jay cutlers hair reminds me of a rooster. Haha
11:24 ... Gotcha. I bet Jay competes 😁 HOO YAH!
I remember competing on stage, and the judges were reading a book, looking around at the crowd, or even talking with the judge next to them, this is while I'm posing.
I was pissed.
That decade I took 3 third place, 2 fifth place and my last show 1st.
Done ✔️
Hi J
Would be great to see some footage with your family and where you grew up dude. Great content and keep up the good work.
I believe Mentzer won the heavyweight division of '79 Olympia but lost the overall to Zane who was the under 200lb winner.
With the '80 Olympia dispensing with the weight classes, Mentzer went in on a high.
The best old school bodybuilding historical figure is John Hansen. You should really consider having him on your podcast. It would be a great interview. John is crazy knowledgeable. Please look into having him. To answer your question about politics, it was very political.
I'm a walking junkie because it is great for hip mobility and overall health. There's no excuse not to do it on a daily basis.
One form is max 15% incline on the treadmill (not holding on) at a relatively slow speed of 2.5-2.8mph for 30-45 min. Going slower and engaging the hips on the tread feels better than relying on momentum of a faster speed.
The other is just a lot of daily outdoor walking to get step count up. Fresh air, vitamin D, and great for overall wellness. May as well listen to podcasts while walking.
Heavy Duty works, but I believe that it depends on who you are. Look at how Jay has been in the game for so long without detrimental injuries. He had the bicep one but that happens. Overall, volume is the answer for most people, unless you are in your 20s with no fear and heavy duty is the way to make fast gains.
Sergio trained with Authur Jones in 1970 in Florida with high intensity and gained more mass. That's why he could not compete in 1971!!! However..., he did guest pose at 255!!!!! With a 28 inch waist!!!
Ooopppss... I believe it was the spring/summer of 1971 I know it was definitely after the 1970 Mr. O. : )
I agree a 100% with Jay . I only do cardio once a week now.Train high intensity /short rest periods .It keeps the body burning fat allday and speeds up metabolism..
You aren't burning fat unless you're eating low carb and entering ketosis. If you take any of the lunkhead bodybuilder advice you probably aren't eating low carb so ... no, you're not burning fat. You're not fat adapted. Probably insulin resistant like most of America.
As Jay mentioned before, him walking w/ all that muscle weight is cardio. Walking for the duration of this video + another 30 minutes is sufficient.
I was wondering why every so often Jay would just stop and stand there. Then I saw Capone at about 5 minutes and it all made sense! Capone has the heart of a Rottweiler!
I do Heavy Duty. I am 57 yrs old.
Capone aka the Big Boss 😂😂😂😂😂 around the neighborhood 👏👏👏👏
Jay & Joan Pradells training.....coming soon
Definitely an inspiration!
Love Jaywalking episodes. That’s Jay!
The prodigal son is coming back to Massachusetts the Champ 👏👏👏👏👏 Jay Cutler aka the Hawk keep banging fam salute 💯 bra
Why. 30 mins a day if anything for cardio health.
That thumbnail is all I need, never doing cardio again thanks Jay
Great video!
Mike and Ray Menzer died 2 days apart June 10 and June 12 2001
Your a true Legend and can't wait to see your progress. Let's GOOO
I got to spend a year training with Markus Reinhardt. He’s the guy in Mikes videos. I learned so much. I have taught my son HIT. He’s 15 and getting big. I’m very proud of him.
Noooo don’t quit cardio Jay lol jk I’m about to watch this content. JayCutler TV is #1 💪🏽😈
Markus REinhardt was working at LVAC then, and he trained under Mike Mentzer even in his videos, I studied all his stuff and videos and lectures and read his books, and john littles stuff.
I do a quasi Jay culter volume style, Dorian yates, Mike Mentzer style training, lots of warmups and not to failure and one hard hard set to failure, depending on how I feel each week, sometimes super form and lot the form flow a bit like Jays style, good to know how the masters train, I worked at LVAC in 2007 to 2011 and loved seeing Jay coming in, he looked like a F150 and everyone bowed to him as the guru like they all should, go Jay, love the channel, I always tell people about it.
Big love Dave to you & Jay. I've been enjoying your new RUclips channel. Kindest regards, as ALWAYS, Richard U.K
Thank you Richard
@@fulltimebodybuildingtv2667 Absolute pleasure Dave!
❤ jay man one tge the greats