Umm.. big problem. The Jetta IS NOT on the S3 platform. The S3 is built on the brand new MQB architecture shared with the MK7 Golf family. The Jetta GLI is built on the 10-year-old MK5- MK6 PQ platform. The MQB architecture will be introduced in the upcoming MK7 Jetta.
And the MQB platformed vehicles have fantastic tunable engines, vw mk7 golf r are running 600bhp with stock internals with just bigger turbo, injector, hpfp, intercooler, catless downpipe, even the dsg holds up well after it's been mapped
My friend had a VW Jetta, and LITERALLY the best stock audio system I've ever heard, it kinda made a feeling of euphoria. Also the car was pretty fast, and he put a new exhaust system on it, and it sounded amazing. I'd pick that car over the Audi considering the price.
Google it. The S3 is built on the newest MQB Volkswagen group platform for compact cars. The Jetta is old, The platform that it's built on is the PQ35 platform which originally debuted on the Audi A3 back in 2003!
@@airspacelord1387 it has the same engine as any 2.0 vw, same dsg and same optional 4wd on same chassis volkswagen uses for their vehicles as well as audis which are also owned by vw, they just have different and optional luxury trim, and both brands are not by any means beasts of a car, they are quite predictable and prone to understeer
Themarenda AWD cars are set up more neutral, I’ve owned MK4, MK5 GTI’s a B8 A4 and now a 8V A3. And it goes uncontested the capability of the new MQB platform. You can play with the XDiff electronically in the A3 AWD (see my video) and this thing just hooks! I’ve back roads mine for years in Germany and now in Korea.
@@airspacelord1387 they are essentially fwd which engages awd when front starts losing grip but they never tend to oversteer plus newer versions have electric handbrakes, audi makes sweet daily cars with engines that can serve some punch and alot of tuning companies offer remap for their engines but i just don't find them that exciting as drivers cars i get that majority of people wants to feel safe but at least s and rs models should handle more agressively
You gotta love the Jetta Gli... Excellent engine, transmission, very high tuning potential for half the price of the Audi... Throw a Stage 2 on the Gli and some gripper tires for a couple of grand and it starts to out-shadow the Audi considering its price
Gian Groppa Racing and race 5.0 mustangs on the drag strip.. Or street, who cares. Wait, muscle car guys will care because you destroyed them in your family sedan grocery getter!
Gian Groppa Racing The S3/Golf r is quicker than a stage 2 gli/gti, so if you get a stage 1 tune on the Audi, it will seriously rape tons of cars and hurt plenty of feelings. Btw, I'm not biased towards either car, I have an mk6 gti so that's just my experience, but I mostly agree with everything else you sajd.
Joseph Vella like at the drag strip or around a circuit? Either way both tuned to stage two are great, except I'd put my money on the GTI because it's like 300 lbs lighter isn't it? Considering that the Golf R is front wheel drive biased
Not even same chassis. S3 is based on MQB chassis, the GLI isn’t. MQB alone makes it worth it, but would say a more fair comparison is GTI vs A3 and GOLF R vs S3
Half the price? You would compare a GTI to an A3 and a Golf R to a S3, neither of those are half the price. Comparing the starting prices, the A3 is only 6k more than the GTI, which for the AWD was an easy choice for me. The S3 is only $4k more than the Golf R
Sorry, after having owned a 2014 2.0 R-Line Turbo Beetle and now an A3, there is a huge difference between VW and Audi. The Audi is much more comfortable, and even with the same engine, the performance is so much better. The reliability difference is huge too. I had that Beetle in the shop repeatedly for problems with the frameless windows, the keyless entry, you name it, that thing was at the dealership a lot. I knew I couldn't keep it past warrantee. I took the Bug back and my dealer suggested an A3. Very good suggestion. Years later, I have not had one thing to complain about. Brilliant, fast, reliable car. Was it a little more money-wise? Yeah. But not that much more. Here's what I have spent on my 2015 A3 besides warrantee and AudiCare: $140 for an alignment. That's it. I haven't even needed to use the factory warrantee for anything. That's the difference you should be talking about. That's what makes Audis worth the money.
I love Audi (I've got the A6 which I'll take all day over the Passat), I live in the Midwest so of course the AWD is preferable. But both cars last forever, well made etc. I think if you have the money, spring for the Audi. The driving experience is over the top and they're beautiful cars.
You being in the industry you should know this is done with every manufacturer like the $100k Escalade is the same as a 50K suburban the TLX is the same as the Accord the ES300 is the same now as the Avalon it used to be the same as the Camry etc nothing crazy here. I also recommend buying a Certified Audi you will get a 3 year 100k mile warranty and the car will be half of the original sticker price
The usa got the RS3 sedan and in the EU we have the RS3 sportback the had to wait on the sedan for a while but it has been launched in europe now aswell ( 2.5 TFSI 5c “just like in the ttrs)
funny comparison for me. Back in 2012 i bought the GLI new autobahn. was modified lightly with a tune and ascetic mods. really loved it, unfortunate a year after i bought the car a elderly driver hit me driving the wrong way in traffic head on at 60mph. i tore 4 muscles in my hip and the labrum, had to have surgery but 3 of the muscle would not be able to be reattached, i lost 2 lateral rotator muscles and the tensor fasciae meaning balancing and lift myself up with my left leg would no longer be something i could ever really do again. for being in a 60 mph head on collision its amazing this is all that happened the GLI saved my life. Up till this I was extremely active, competed in mountain bike racing ever year, rock climbing and canyoneering all year, religiously worked out an hour a day at the gym. i coached trouble youth kids at a rehabilitation center and trained them for triathlons as my job and i was also in college going into exercise science. after the wreck i had to face a reality for myself. after surgery i was crutches zero weight on my left leg for 3 month then 3 month 50%. during this i had to leave my job, take a break from school and almost all my normal activities but i could still help my friends modify their cars and modify my new car. i was decent at it and everyone would come to me for help. it was 3 months down the road from this accident, i was helping my friend put in the mk6 golf R turbo, K04, in his mk6 gti when he asked me why im not going into the automotive field since it always was my biggest passion and i answered with it never really crossed my mind. My hip never going to be normal again I changed my degree to mechanical engineering and graduated with an Internship with APR, spent a year there then got a job with VAG and moved to Stuttgart for 6 months. the 8V S3 had launched while i was training training in Germany so i was involved in a lot of the roll out process. when i got home i had my very modified b8.5 2013 audi S4 i bought 9 month prior that i traded for a new 2016 S3 the same week i got home. Im now a race engineer for an audi sport team and development of the two audi RS3 LMS cars under my charge. my personal S3 is a 588hp at the wheels monster that i love and was even at SEMA this year. These two cars changed my life and i fell in love with the S3 because of the love for the GLI i had. absolutely loved seeing this video hats off Sam. side note Sam, watched the S3 rebuild too and well you have come a long way since then on your automotive knowledge and VAG car knowledge, really enjoy your stuff keep it up
mercguy658 On which generation? Because I've never seen a Jetta of that generation, with LED. It doesn't even have Xenon nor it has parking sensors, like wtf?
I had a 2009 jetta TDI, and was a great car. It was more like a sleeper. It accelerated as fast as audi a6 quattro. It was going 130mph and felt comfortable at that speed. And most important, it costed me only $7800. Loved it! Until VW took it away from me, lol))
Really enjoying the surprise Audi RS7- LOVE the refined autobahn bruiser with mild mannered sedan looks (OK- less than mild, but, not exactly too wild either!) Thank you for taking your time, sharing both the good and the bad (less good?) parts, the difficulty matching the bumper to the front end (people don't understand how much time & patience it can take), and, the bargain price that you get to enjoy this mildly wild ride at. @ 25k intro, and, @ $36 or so in your driveway- I'm so jealous I could scream. But, , you deserve the rewards, thank you for sharing all of the efforts, please share the enoymemt of the drive aftwards- per usual As a VW/Audi driver of many years, I appreiacte your input on the differences between the A3 and venerable GLI- no negative feedback, great comparo & honest variances highlighted. Thanks again for all of the effort- many really appreciate all of the effort, Dave
You hit the nail on the head with the feel of your Jetta GLI vs the Mark V GTI/GLI: the old ones felt fun and full of spirit. With the Mark VI, the Jetta GLI deviated from the Golf platform. It was cheapened out and most of the good stuff VW became known for was removed. The Mark VI Jetta GLI I test drove (2012) honestly feels like a solid, fast, Toyota Corolla. The Mark V Jetta (same platform as Golf all the way to 2010 in the U.S.) HAD that fun feel because it was just a betrunked Golf.
You are correct sir, I’m personally not bothered about what brand the car is but the VW Jetta, Audi A3, Seat Toledo and Škoda Rapid are all made by the VW Audi Group and all use the same engine ranges. I bought a Rapid as i knew its a very similar car. Obviously in an Audi you get a better trim than a Škoda but the engines are the same and a lot of the parts.
John Williams actually the rapid is not related to the jetta at all because it is based on the polo platform. it especially doesn't share anything with the audi a3 which is based on MQB😬 the rapid is a cost effective car designed for developing markets. not saying it's a bad car but it's just not related at all. the octavia and seat leon are the cars that shares engines and many components with the a3.
My Jetta brakes have both the VW and Audi logo. I love my Audi parts bin pieces that make my Jetta feel far more upscale than it really is :) like the door handles.
Lost my mk4 GLI in a wreck. I miss my VR6 six-speed every day. I have a Mk5 GLI now, 2.0T six-speed. Have a turbo back exhaust with downpipe, tune coming soon. I am learning to love it too.
About comparisons like these I have two explanation: 1. You didn't drive only by sitting on chassis, gearbox and engine - car has body, interior and a lot of things in summary. 2. Try to stop near night club with Jetta and with S3... :D Money You spend is not only about technical specifications. P.S. The Jetta and the S3 in this video is not the same platform. Golf MK7, not Jetta, has MQB (same like A3/S3).
I have a 2016 S3, I've also had a few weeks in an A3, and also a GLI. While you bring up an interesting comparison, you can't directly compare the S3 to the GLI. Also the difference between the A3 and the S3 is vast enough that it's almost a different model of car. You could argue that the base front wheel drive A3 is an upmarket GLI and i"d probably agree with you. But what you're leaving out is that with the Audi badge does come some extra features with the build quality, whether that be interior materials, extra sound deadening or just overall attention to detail. Yes the GLI is a tremendous value proposition for what it is, it's a fantastic commuter car. 80% of buyers would be satisfied with it, and wouldn't spend another $25k on an S3 (but possibly another $10 on an A3 because of tech and interior materials). But if you want a car that can make an STi nervous, while still pulling up to the valet and turning heads, then you'll understand where your extra $25k went. Anyone who is shopping a GLI is not cross shopping a fully loaded S3.
Well, for one, the S3 has AWD and a big turbo, and no it doesn't cost twice as much because you can't get a GLI for $25k unless you travel back to ten years ago. That said, I've had a GTI and a TTS which are the hatch/coupe equivalents of the cars you're testing, and I loved both. A high performance VW is always great value, while Audi is more prestigious and usually nicer looking. It's about preference.
There’s no mk7 GLI yet and you can get the push button start, nav, xenon headlights and a few other nice things in a premium package for the GLI at the time I believe? 🤷🏻♀️🤔
Good comparison video. A lot of people in the States don't know that VW owns Audi (and quite a few other companies too, like Porsche and Bentley). So the Jetta and S3 are comparable, to an extent. In Europe you have the Audi RS3 but that has a bigger engine. However, first thing that occurs to me about the S3 over the Jetta are adaptive dampers and air suspension (or magnetic suspension. Whatever) which already puts the Audi in a different league confort-wise. Then you have Audi's AWD Quattro system which improves handling and is especially important for bad weather conditions (depends where you live) or improving handling on track, if you like going to the race track. The S3 might not be faster than the Jetta in a straight line but that in no way means they're the same car. You can get things with the Audi that you can't get with the Jetta, of course for a price.
I can't remember the models, sorry, but back in the early 2000's I worked for a company and the president had the audi (A4 I think) and a salesman had the Jetta. I drove around quite a bit in both and while the audi interior was a little nicer, the cars were identical and as you say here, for half the price. Both liked to show off my ripping through the gears (5 spd), cornering like teenagers etc and to me, there was absolutely NO difference between them.
Gotta love them DSGs. I have a 2006 A3 with DSG, and she still goes off the line like a rocket, runs out of beans at anything over 70 though, then again it's only a diesel.
Oh dont mention the MK4 ! ! ! I wanted the 2002 VW GTI 25th anniversary edition till the end but ended up just with a regular 2002 VW GTI was one amazing car still miss it. Now moving on to my 2012 VW GLI (needed a family car) I really liked it was nice has alot of features but definetly lost character the steering the little drivers car it used to be faded into a well equipt econo. Very well put Samcrac.
The current Jetta (2017 or 2018) is not on the VW MQB platform, but the 2019+ will be. The A3/S3 is based on the Golf R/GTI platform (MQB)...plus the Audi has available AWD in A3 adn stardard in S3. Not the same thing.
WTF are you talking about? They are both built on the same platform, use the same power plant, ride on the same suspension, same brake calipers and rotors, same electronic differential, with less than a 40 lb difference in weight between the two cars.
The S3 chassis is based on the Golf GTI/R chassis, the Jetta GLI is just a Golf GTI with a boot, soo losely similar 🤷🏻♂️ The S3 is all wheel drive, the Jetta is front wheel drive, again can't really compare as "the same car" Performance wise the S3 is closer to the handling/power of a Golf R due to the Haldex all wheel drive system and TFSI engine. The only car you could compare the Jetta GLI is a Skoda Octavia VRS. That'll be a fair comparison 👍 Comparing a GLI to an S3 is like comparing a Ducati superbike to a reliant robin (Google it) 🙌
I picked up a brand new 2017 GLI the other week for just over 24K out the door. For the money, I simply could not touch anything comparable that's similarly equipped. Is it perfect? No. Is it worth it? Absolutely!
Honestly when you started driving the Jetta I was really surprised at the acceleration seem super quick for what it is definitely the underdog people must overlook them as I did before this video
Love my turbo, manual trans, vw. It’s going to be pretty hard to go back to an American car after owning it that’s for sure. Smoother,faster and quieter
Personally I cant stand front wheel drive cars at all. Have had many and when I purchased my first BMW I just fell in love with the way a rear wheel drive feels. I do agree on the value for your money with Jetta tho. It is a great bargain.
I think that VAG port their previous audi platforms to VW SKODA and SEAT. I used to have a A4 and the engine and gearbox was shared with the Passat. I used to have a Skoda and share the engine with the Jetta and the gearbox with the A3. So if you buy a VW with audi engine and gearbox it must be fun to driver as an audi
Austin since you are used to fine specimens you should buy THIS specific Jetta. BTW I'm pretty sure you'll wanna buy the car from me that I just bought from auction when I'm done with it...
Samcrac yeah? Email me your price for it! I'm always looking for something to add to my Lexus, two Yugos, postal jeep, ramp truck, silverado, and passat lol
Jettas become worthless real fast. Theres a 2016 jetta for $9k near me from a dealer, it doesnt even have alot of miles but i guess thats just how german cars are
Doesn’t matter, both are going to cost you BANK when the electrics go wonky and the DSG fails and the turbo blows due to sludge. Plus that Jetta is a JOKE for 25k... looks like it’s from 2007. I have a newer car in the same class with slightly less HP but has more options for the price.
brycmtthw I like it when ppl think of any german car as unreliable money pit while I still drive my Audi A4 2008 till today with 170k miles lol and with no major problems
NightArrow agreed. My '15 passat is closing in on 80k miles. I did 26k last year. No repairs yet. Higher quality parts are used in german vehicles compared to the asian competition
Wtf are you talking about. In Canada a Jetta Gli with DSG is 37,000. A loaded S3 is 52,000. The engine in the Jetta is a gutless while the S3 is incredible. Tuning, chassis, transmission, engine, virtual cockpit, bang and O stereo. Yes, the S3 is worth 15k more.
Sapient Budgie he is talking US market the Canadian market is a good amount different then the US market plus the Canadian dollar to a shit lately which is affecting prices
Yes, I'm well aware of the dollar difference. A Jetta GLI in the united states is 28995 with a DSG and you get get a Premium Plus S3 for 45K well equipped. Also, the engine in the GLI is not the engine in the GTI. Try to compare a bmw 320i to a bmw 340xdrive. There is a 25k difference. Video is fucking useless here. Of course the S3 is worth 15k more...but it's not 25k difference in any country
Sapient Budgie Correct . but if you check with let's say... 2018 now. A GLI is fair to compare against the A3 2.0T with S-tronic. A loaded 2018 GLI is 36k... While a A3 2.0T with equal equipment is 41K. Is 5K worth the AWD, Nicer interior, arguable nicer exterior, more refined fit and finish and the Audi ownership experience at dealerships. YES! however... A loaded Golf R is 42k...and a S3 with similar equipment is 56k. Is that worth the extra 13k, I'd say no. Especially with the Golf R's insanely good resale value in Canada for being so exclusive.
Sapient Budgie to each they're own, the RS3 is wicked. But with a Canadian starting price of 63k. It's hard to compromise some of that sport in exchange for... Let's say an S5 for $2000 less. But that depends on the persons needs when buying.
Luke Ziom He’s a good driver and driving is second nature when you are, your knee is as good as your hand for holding the wheel straight and on any turn thats not 90 degrees
Woah there Nelly! The original GTI was THE hot hatch of the 70's and early 80's but it went through some crappy evolutions. The new GTI is a seriously good car but there is a lot of competition (here in Europe at least). It makes me sad when I'm in the US and don't see any of the hot hatches we have. But then it makes me sad when I come home and go from a V8 to a diesel 4 banger.
I have a 16 Jetta GTI Authobahn, had tons of fun and I am passing it down to my younger brother I'm looking into either the Golf R or the RS 3, I wouldn't go for a S3 because it's basically the same as a Golf R
I think you could get the S3 to low 3 second 0-60 in less than a few thousand bucks. I have a JB4 that i'm timing in the low 4s and that cost me less than 500.
Ones a 4 cylinder ones a 5 cylinder the piece of a 5 pot is higher due to engineering for proper cooling and space especially since the engine is mounted tranversally
A review about two cars without talking about their damage and repairs. Cool.You mentioned that the Jetta has around 200 hp, but you didn't say that the Audi has almost 300.
That Jetta GLI DSG was over $30k sticker new, not $25k. What really sucks about the Jetta is that it doesn't have real leather on the seats, only fake leather throughout (other than the steering wheel and shift knob). The GTI of same generation had leather down middle of seats and vinyl side panels but the Jetta didn't get that. I complained to a VW rep at an auto show about the lack of real leather and he went on about how "it's the finest simulated leather in the industry". Who cares, it's fake and feels like rubber. The leather in my GTI doesn't compare to an Audi A6 2.7T I once owned, but it's a hell of a lot better than fake leather and is still in perfect condition after 6 years of use. Obviously an S3 doesn't compare to the Jetta due to being essentially a Golf R sedan. Much better platform, AWD, higher output, more features, better materials, etc. I certainly wouldn't pay $50k for it though, especially when a pretty loaded Golf R goes for $10K less with same platform and drivetrain.
I was leasing a 2015 A3 Quattro because work's perks were covering most of the cost. When that perk ended and time to return the A3 I crossed shop a bunch of car to buy this time. I came out with the 2015 GLI with face lifted rear and updated interior and push button start. I literally felt like I was in the same car. Not only was the engine and transmission the same most of the button and switches are even identical and reused across two cars. I prefer the GLI to be honest not only because of the value proposition but also objectively it's a more sporty and more fun one to drive of the two.
Should've compared it to the A3 2.0T. Anything you could do to the Jetta to make it better you could do to the Audi. But the Audi has AWD and is roughly only 8 grand more... Audi for the win!
I don’t know how this guy could come with this comparison, I would never compare a Volkswagen with an Audi , it’s like comparing an BMW (M760 v12) with a Rolls Royce (Ghost), its all about details , manufacture, quality, experience, etc
I'm pretty sure they're both on the same chassis which means the comparison is a little more valid, honestly though there is no way i would pay any amount of money for either car
I prefer AWD to FWD most of the time... I also prefer RWD to FWD in Florida. Audi is much sexier but for the money.... not sure. It's really about price to performance in most cases. Also.... people might buy the Audi instead if money isn't an issue. For the cost of that Audi though I'd rather have the Subaru STI.
In Europe you can by a sub brand called SEAT cheaper than the VW with similar specs and then a sub brand of that called Skoda, again cheaper than the SEAT with similar specs.
I own a mark 6 GLI, and service these cars for a living. The ea88 in the GLI is not the same as the one in the S3. The cylinder head and turbo are the main differences. With the Audi pushing over 300hp stock. Is it worth it? Depends on your preferences.
Audi A3, VW Jetta and Škoda Octavia are mechanicaly same car. One is made on Inglostadt (or Györ, I know that most Lambo engines are from Györ), one in Wolfsburg and one in Mlada Boleslav. If you have problem with Audi you can put Škoda parts. These are same parts, from same factory but different tag and therefore different price. For family man, Octavia is by far best. It is the biggest, the cheapest and much simpler to use.
I wouldn’t buy either new. I’d buy used with low mileage. You get rid of the depreciation when you drive off the lot. So I’d get a used s3 for around $30k. Let’s be honest the s3 is a bit more well put together, sounds better, drives better, looks better.
Firstly, you should compare the S3 with the golf R because those cars are identical. A better comparison is the A3 an GTI, both of which have the same engine and transmission. This jetta has the engine from the mk6.
few years ago I had the 09 Volkswagen Jetta TDI with basically the same package except it was diesel not gas and it was a fun car it sucked in the winter time because you could not get Traction in the winter
Tell me if I'm wrong which I haven't got that far in the video yet almost all Audi cars have the Quattro which is there all wheel drive system and I would assume because the Audi A3 whatever you called it the top of the line would have the all-wheel-drive system that is the only thing that I really wish that the 09 Volkswagen Jetta TDI that I had it was missing was the all-wheel-drive package
S3 is Quattro...Jetta is FWD ...Audi is a different platform, then the VW. I don’t know if I’d be comparing these two...now if you had a Golf R next to the Audi that’s a different story. My two cents.
i have a Jetta GLI with 110,000 miles very reliable car and i was thinking to buy the Audi A3 and the price was over price to much money a better go with the GTI hands down
The S3 isn’t even close to the A3. Different price, different tune, different power. If you’re gonna say you’re comparing an A3 to a Jetta (which would be a more fair comparison) actually use an A3.
Here's a pro tip....if you buy a Volkswagen/Audi...buy a trunk full of coils, coil connectors , coil harness....oh and some sea foam for that carbon buildup
They are not the same platform, the A3 is actually the golf MK7’s cousin, both the A3 and MK7 Golf are much better cars than the MK6 Jetta. So you should be comparing the top of the line Golf which is the R and the top of the line A3 which is the RS3, there would be no competition here, the RS3 just kills the R, not saying that the R is a bad car, it’s actually a great car, but the RS3 is a beast of a car. The new MK7 Jetta (2019) is a different story since it will use the same platform that underprints the A3 and Golf which is Volkswagen group’s MQB platform.
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Umm.. big problem. The Jetta IS NOT on the S3 platform. The S3 is built on the brand new MQB architecture shared with the MK7 Golf family. The Jetta GLI is built on the 10-year-old MK5- MK6 PQ platform. The MQB architecture will be introduced in the upcoming MK7 Jetta.
And the MQB platformed vehicles have fantastic tunable engines, vw mk7 golf r are running 600bhp with stock internals with just bigger turbo, injector, hpfp, intercooler, catless downpipe, even the dsg holds up well after it's been mapped
And one is awd with a slightly bigger turbo
My friend had a VW Jetta, and LITERALLY the best stock audio system I've ever heard, it kinda made a feeling of euphoria. Also the car was pretty fast, and he put a new exhaust system on it, and it sounded amazing. I'd pick that car over the Audi considering the price.
The Audi in the video is built on the MQB platform which is a generation ahead (and much superior) of the PQ35 platform of the Jetta GLI.
Nazeer Vawda good point, but i would have sware that vw got the mqb.
Basic language “: the jetta is the MK6 golf gen and the s3 is the mk7 golf”
Nazeer Vawda so, reading the comments.... what's the true correct fact? Of the cars that appear in the video, which platform is each based on?
Google it. The S3 is built on the newest MQB Volkswagen group platform for compact cars. The Jetta is old, The platform that it's built on is the PQ35 platform which originally debuted on the Audi A3 back in 2003!
The Jetta is a 2003 Skoda Octavia.
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bro i will give you $4.99 for the audi, I will come and collect tomorrow
better than the free.99 offers I've had of late
my offer matches the last 3 digits of your sub count, i just noticed, how strange
Samcrac can’t wait to see what you got.
This gen of GLI does not share the same platform at the A3/S3. This platform is more similarly shared with the mk7 GTI, and Golf R
Comparing the S3 to the Jetta GLI isn't exactly a valid comparison. A better one would be the GLI vs the lesser A3 2.0T
HashiriyaR32 still doesn't even compete!!! That A3 is a beast that hangs on to the road for dear life!!
HashiriyaR32 and the a3 has 2 extra drive wheels and is a much nicer and better looking car in my opinion
@@airspacelord1387 it has the same engine as any 2.0 vw, same dsg and same optional 4wd on same chassis volkswagen uses for their vehicles as well as audis which are also owned by vw, they just have different and optional luxury trim, and both brands are not by any means beasts of a car, they are quite predictable and prone to understeer
Themarenda AWD cars are set up more neutral, I’ve owned MK4, MK5 GTI’s a B8 A4 and now a 8V A3. And it goes uncontested the capability of the new MQB platform. You can play with the XDiff electronically in the A3 AWD (see my video) and this thing just hooks! I’ve back roads mine for years in Germany and now in Korea.
@@airspacelord1387 they are essentially fwd which engages awd when front starts losing grip but they never tend to oversteer plus newer versions have electric handbrakes, audi makes sweet daily cars with engines that can serve some punch and alot of tuning companies offer remap for their engines but i just don't find them that exciting as drivers cars i get that majority of people wants to feel safe but at least s and rs models should handle more agressively
You gotta love the Jetta Gli... Excellent engine, transmission, very high tuning potential for half the price of the Audi... Throw a Stage 2 on the Gli and some gripper tires for a couple of grand and it starts to out-shadow the Audi considering its price
Gian Groppa Racing and race 5.0 mustangs on the drag strip.. Or street, who cares. Wait, muscle car guys will care because you destroyed them in your family sedan grocery getter!
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The S3/Golf r is quicker than a stage 2 gli/gti, so if you get a stage 1 tune on the Audi, it will seriously rape tons of cars and hurt plenty of feelings.
Btw, I'm not biased towards either car, I have an mk6 gti so that's just my experience, but I mostly agree with everything else you sajd.
Andrew Denisyuk stage 2 mk7 GTI is faster than a mk7 golf r stock btw
Joseph Vella like at the drag strip or around a circuit? Either way both tuned to stage two are great, except I'd put my money on the GTI because it's like 300 lbs lighter isn't it? Considering that the Golf R is front wheel drive biased
Diego Murillo so true as someone who owns a mk7 gti and a fox body mustang built up. The built mustang is just as fast as a Stock! Gti! Insane to me.
Not even same chassis. S3 is based on MQB chassis, the GLI isn’t. MQB alone makes it worth it, but would say a more fair comparison is GTI vs A3 and GOLF R vs S3
Sameer Kotecha you can get the current Golf on the MQB for still have the price of the Audi.
Half the price? You would compare a GTI to an A3 and a Golf R to a S3, neither of those are half the price. Comparing the starting prices, the A3 is only 6k more than the GTI, which for the AWD was an easy choice for me. The S3 is only $4k more than the Golf R
Sameer Kotecha Exactly! 👍
Sorry, after having owned a 2014 2.0 R-Line Turbo Beetle and now an A3, there is a huge difference between VW and Audi. The Audi is much more comfortable, and even with the same engine, the performance is so much better. The reliability difference is huge too. I had that Beetle in the shop repeatedly for problems with the frameless windows, the keyless entry, you name it, that thing was at the dealership a lot. I knew I couldn't keep it past warrantee. I took the Bug back and my dealer suggested an A3.
Very good suggestion. Years later, I have not had one thing to complain about. Brilliant, fast, reliable car. Was it a little more money-wise? Yeah. But not that much more. Here's what I have spent on my 2015 A3 besides warrantee and AudiCare: $140 for an alignment.
That's it. I haven't even needed to use the factory warrantee for anything. That's the difference you should be talking about. That's what makes Audis worth the money.
I love Audi (I've got the A6 which I'll take all day over the Passat), I live in the Midwest so of course the AWD is preferable. But both cars last forever, well made etc. I think if you have the money, spring for the Audi. The driving experience is over the top and they're beautiful cars.
The Audi A3/s3 looks so much better with the full LED headlights, xenons are showing there age now days
You being in the industry you should know this is done with every manufacturer like the $100k Escalade is the same as a 50K suburban the TLX is the same as the Accord the ES300 is the same now as the Avalon it used to be the same as the Camry etc nothing crazy here. I also recommend buying a Certified Audi you will get a 3 year 100k mile warranty and the car will be half of the original sticker price
Los Pollos Hermanos Well said
Yes well said every manufactuer...except bmw and mercedes... this is why ill never get an audi or lexus the cheapness is all over the place
Stefan Cupovic but reliability comes standard with Lexus🤔
Los Pollos Hermanos TRUE!!
Americans would love Europe , here VW/Audi have another two brands ,Skoda and Seat both of which are cheaper than the VW
I wish a GLI was only $25000 😂 the Sport is 25, the gli is 30+
Stephan D got mine last year for about 27 looks exactly like the Jetta in this video but I have Audi wheels
Stephan D got my SE TDI for around $23k after taxes, net price was $15k (interest/warranties)
My aunt got a new gli s dsg for $22,000 with remote start
Isnt there an RS3? which would be a higher trim
Matas Simukaitis I was thinking the same thing, but I don't think we get the rs3 here in the US.
It's a totally different engine, so it'd be considered a different car. Trim would probably mostly cover options and features.
PWAT-GEETHUR I looked on the Audi website and it says we do so I’m not sure
PWAT-GEETHUR Yea we do
The usa got the RS3 sedan and in the EU we have the RS3 sportback the had to wait on the sedan for a while but it has been launched in europe now aswell ( 2.5 TFSI 5c “just like in the ttrs)
dude is in love with his jetta. i would take the audi, lots of snow where i live!
funny comparison for me. Back in 2012 i bought the GLI new autobahn. was modified lightly with a tune and ascetic mods. really loved it, unfortunate a year after i bought the car a elderly driver hit me driving the wrong way in traffic head on at 60mph. i tore 4 muscles in my hip and the labrum, had to have surgery but 3 of the muscle would not be able to be reattached, i lost 2 lateral rotator muscles and the tensor fasciae meaning balancing and lift myself up with my left leg would no longer be something i could ever really do again. for being in a 60 mph head on collision its amazing this is all that happened the GLI saved my life. Up till this I was extremely active, competed in mountain bike racing ever year, rock climbing and canyoneering all year, religiously worked out an hour a day at the gym. i coached trouble youth kids at a rehabilitation center and trained them for triathlons as my job and i was also in college going into exercise science. after the wreck i had to face a reality for myself. after surgery i was crutches zero weight on my left leg for 3 month then 3 month 50%. during this i had to leave my job, take a break from school and almost all my normal activities but i could still help my friends modify their cars and modify my new car. i was decent at it and everyone would come to me for help. it was 3 months down the road from this accident, i was helping my friend put in the mk6 golf R turbo, K04, in his mk6 gti when he asked me why im not going into the automotive field since it always was my biggest passion and i answered with it never really crossed my mind. My hip never going to be normal again I changed my degree to mechanical engineering and graduated with an Internship with APR, spent a year there then got a job with VAG and moved to Stuttgart for 6 months. the 8V S3 had launched while i was training training in Germany so i was involved in a lot of the roll out process. when i got home i had my very modified b8.5 2013 audi S4 i bought 9 month prior that i traded for a new 2016 S3 the same week i got home. Im now a race engineer for an audi sport team and development of the two audi RS3 LMS cars under my charge. my personal S3 is a 588hp at the wheels monster that i love and was even at SEMA this year.
These two cars changed my life and i fell in love with the S3 because of the love for the GLI i had. absolutely loved seeing this video hats off Sam.
side note Sam, watched the S3 rebuild too and well you have come a long way since then on your automotive knowledge and VAG car knowledge, really enjoy your stuff keep it up
You put the wrong headlamps on the Jetta.
No it didn't come with the LED option
In Europe it does...
H4RD_B4SE it did come with led/xenon lights in the US as well.
mercguy658 On which generation? Because I've never seen a Jetta of that generation, with LED. It doesn't even have Xenon nor it has parking sensors, like wtf?
H4RD_B4SE Huh? The GLI came with LED DRL and Xenon lights, LED taillights. It also comes with Pilot Pilot. I work for a VW dealer in America
I had a 2009 jetta TDI, and was a great car. It was more like a sleeper. It accelerated as fast as audi a6 quattro. It was going 130mph and felt comfortable at that speed. And most important, it costed me only $7800. Loved it! Until VW took it away from me, lol))
NYC_Streets718 why did they took it away from you
Really enjoying the surprise Audi RS7- LOVE the refined autobahn bruiser with mild mannered sedan looks (OK- less than mild, but, not exactly too wild either!) Thank you for taking your time, sharing both the good and the bad (less good?) parts, the difficulty matching the bumper to the front end (people don't understand how much time & patience it can take), and, the bargain price that you get to enjoy this mildly wild ride at. @ 25k intro, and, @ $36 or so in your driveway- I'm so jealous I could scream. But, , you deserve the rewards, thank you for sharing all of the efforts, please share the enoymemt of the drive aftwards- per usual As a VW/Audi driver of many years, I appreiacte your input on the differences between the A3 and venerable GLI- no negative feedback, great comparo & honest variances highlighted. Thanks again for all of the effort- many really appreciate all of the effort, Dave
You hit the nail on the head with the feel of your Jetta GLI vs the Mark V GTI/GLI: the old ones felt fun and full of spirit. With the Mark VI, the Jetta GLI deviated from the Golf platform. It was cheapened out and most of the good stuff VW became known for was removed.
The Mark VI Jetta GLI I test drove (2012) honestly feels like a solid, fast, Toyota Corolla. The Mark V Jetta (same platform as Golf all the way to 2010 in the U.S.) HAD that fun feel because it was just a betrunked Golf.
I think the skoda will be cheaper
You are correct sir, I’m personally not bothered about what brand the car is but the VW Jetta, Audi A3, Seat Toledo and Škoda Rapid are all made by the VW Audi Group and all use the same engine ranges. I bought a Rapid as i knew its a very similar car. Obviously in an Audi you get a better trim than a Škoda but the engines are the same and a lot of the parts.
John Williams actually the rapid is not related to the jetta at all because it is based on the polo platform. it especially doesn't share anything with the audi a3 which is based on MQB😬 the rapid is a cost effective car designed for developing markets. not saying it's a bad car but it's just not related at all. the octavia and seat leon are the cars that shares engines and many components with the a3.
Too bad Skoda isn't available in American market.
Yes, that's the bottom end edition of the same VW/Audi. If you don't care about the badge, you must choose Skoda.
The Seat looks better in my opinion
My Jetta brakes have both the VW and Audi logo. I love my Audi parts bin pieces that make my Jetta feel far more upscale than it really is :) like the door handles.
Lost my mk4 GLI in a wreck. I miss my VR6 six-speed every day. I have a Mk5 GLI now, 2.0T six-speed. Have a turbo back exhaust with downpipe, tune coming soon. I am learning to love it too.
About comparisons like these I have two explanation: 1. You didn't drive only by sitting on chassis, gearbox and engine - car has body, interior and a lot of things in summary. 2. Try to stop near night club with Jetta and with S3... :D Money You spend is not only about technical specifications. P.S. The Jetta and the S3 in this video is not the same platform. Golf MK7, not Jetta, has MQB (same like A3/S3).
Cant believe i subbed to you when you were in the 1000s now almost 200k keep it up Friend!! 💯
I have a 2016 S3, I've also had a few weeks in an A3, and also a GLI. While you bring up an interesting comparison, you can't directly compare the S3 to the GLI. Also the difference between the A3 and the S3 is vast enough that it's almost a different model of car. You could argue that the base front wheel drive A3 is an upmarket GLI and i"d probably agree with you. But what you're leaving out is that with the Audi badge does come some extra features with the build quality, whether that be interior materials, extra sound deadening or just overall attention to detail. Yes the GLI is a tremendous value proposition for what it is, it's a fantastic commuter car. 80% of buyers would be satisfied with it, and wouldn't spend another $25k on an S3 (but possibly another $10 on an A3 because of tech and interior materials). But if you want a car that can make an STi nervous, while still pulling up to the valet and turning heads, then you'll understand where your extra $25k went. Anyone who is shopping a GLI is not cross shopping a fully loaded S3.
Well, for one, the S3 has AWD and a big turbo, and no it doesn't cost twice as much because you can't get a GLI for $25k unless you travel back to ten years ago. That said, I've had a GTI and a TTS which are the hatch/coupe equivalents of the cars you're testing, and I loved both. A high performance VW is always great value, while Audi is more prestigious and usually nicer looking. It's about preference.
There’s no mk7 GLI yet and you can get the push button start, nav, xenon headlights and a few other nice things in a premium package for the GLI at the time I believe? 🤷🏻♀️🤔
Good comparison video. A lot of people in the States don't know that VW owns Audi (and quite a few other companies too, like Porsche and Bentley). So the Jetta and S3 are comparable, to an extent.
In Europe you have the Audi RS3 but that has a bigger engine. However, first thing that occurs to me about the S3 over the Jetta are adaptive dampers and air suspension (or magnetic suspension. Whatever) which already puts the Audi in a different league confort-wise. Then you have Audi's AWD Quattro system which improves handling and is especially important for bad weather conditions (depends where you live) or improving handling on track, if you like going to the race track.
The S3 might not be faster than the Jetta in a straight line but that in no way means they're the same car. You can get things with the Audi that you can't get with the Jetta, of course for a price.
Bruh the gear changes on the Jetta were quick. That DCG is working!
I can't remember the models, sorry, but back in the early 2000's I worked for a company and the president had the audi (A4 I think) and a salesman had the Jetta. I drove around quite a bit in both and while the audi interior was a little nicer, the cars were identical and as you say here, for half the price. Both liked to show off my ripping through the gears (5 spd), cornering like teenagers etc and to me, there was absolutely NO difference between them.
@Nathan Hudson Especially with actual quattro in the a5 and not haldex
Gotta love them DSGs. I have a 2006 A3 with DSG, and she still goes off the line like a rocket, runs out of beans at anything over 70 though, then again it's only a diesel.
Oh dont mention the MK4 ! ! ! I wanted the 2002 VW GTI 25th anniversary edition till the end but ended up just with a regular 2002 VW GTI was one amazing car still miss it. Now moving on to my 2012 VW GLI (needed a family car) I really liked it was nice has alot of features but definetly lost character the steering the little drivers car it used to be faded into a well equipt econo. Very well put Samcrac.
The current Jetta (2017 or 2018) is not on the VW MQB platform, but the 2019+ will be. The A3/S3 is based on the Golf R/GTI platform (MQB)...plus the Audi has available AWD in A3 adn stardard in S3. Not the same thing.
The last fun GLI was the mk5. That one was literally identical to the GTI in that generation. The mk6 GLI and GTI are so much different.
WTF are you talking about? They are both built on the same platform, use the same power plant, ride on the same suspension, same brake calipers and rotors, same electronic differential, with less than a 40 lb difference in weight between the two cars.
The S3 chassis is based on the Golf GTI/R chassis, the Jetta GLI is just a Golf GTI with a boot, soo losely similar 🤷🏻♂️
The S3 is all wheel drive, the Jetta is front wheel drive, again can't really compare as "the same car"
Performance wise the S3 is closer to the handling/power of a Golf R due to the Haldex all wheel drive system and TFSI engine.
The only car you could compare the Jetta GLI is a Skoda Octavia VRS. That'll be a fair comparison 👍
Comparing a GLI to an S3 is like comparing a Ducati superbike to a reliant robin (Google it) 🙌
I picked up a brand new 2017 GLI the other week for just over 24K out the door. For the money, I simply could not touch anything comparable that's similarly equipped. Is it perfect? No. Is it worth it? Absolutely!
Honestly when you started driving the Jetta I was really surprised at the acceleration seem super quick for what it is definitely the underdog people must overlook them as I did before this video
Love my turbo, manual trans, vw. It’s going to be pretty hard to go back to an American car after owning it that’s for sure. Smoother,faster and quieter
Technically speaking, the Audi is on the MQB, and the GLI is on the PQ35 platform. All platforms are VW's, but they are slightly different.
Personally I cant stand front wheel drive cars at all. Have had many and when I purchased my first BMW I just fell in love with the way a rear wheel drive feels. I do agree on the value for your money with Jetta tho. It is a great bargain.
I just got a MK6 GTI for my first car. Love it.
I have a 2013 vw gli and i’m so excited to be upgrading to an audi. Most likely going to be getting an a4 or s4
I like the Audi grill, headlights, interior and all that chrome (I’m a guy, chrome is like a diamond to girls...).
I think that VAG port their previous audi platforms to VW SKODA and SEAT. I used to have a A4 and the engine and gearbox was shared with the Passat. I used to have a Skoda and share the engine with the Jetta and the gearbox with the A3. So if you buy a VW with audi engine and gearbox it must be fun to driver as an audi
I honestly would buy the Jetta, but thats just me...
Austin's Garage because you wouldn't be able to afford the S3!😂🤣
Los Pollos Hermanos you don't know him so stfu
Austin since you are used to fine specimens you should buy THIS specific Jetta. BTW I'm pretty sure you'll wanna buy the car from me that I just bought from auction when I'm done with it...
Samcrac yeah? Email me your price for it! I'm always looking for something to add to my Lexus, two Yugos, postal jeep, ramp truck, silverado, and passat lol
Jettas become worthless real fast. Theres a 2016 jetta for $9k near me from a dealer, it doesnt even have alot of miles but i guess thats just how german cars are
Doesn’t matter, both are going to cost you BANK when the electrics go wonky and the DSG fails and the turbo blows due to sludge. Plus that Jetta is a JOKE for 25k... looks like it’s from 2007. I have a newer car in the same class with slightly less HP but has more options for the price.
brycmtthw I like it when ppl think of any german car as unreliable money pit while I still drive my Audi A4 2008 till today with 170k miles lol and with no major problems
NightArrow agreed. My '15 passat is closing in on 80k miles. I did 26k last year. No repairs yet. Higher quality parts are used in german vehicles compared to the asian competition
Wtf are you talking about. In Canada a Jetta Gli with DSG is 37,000. A loaded S3 is 52,000. The engine in the Jetta is a gutless while the S3 is incredible. Tuning, chassis, transmission, engine, virtual cockpit, bang and O stereo. Yes, the S3 is worth 15k more.
Sapient Budgie he is talking US market the Canadian market is a good amount different then the US market plus the Canadian dollar to a shit lately which is affecting prices
Yes, I'm well aware of the dollar difference. A Jetta GLI in the united states is 28995 with a DSG and you get get a Premium Plus S3 for 45K well equipped. Also, the engine in the GLI is not the engine in the GTI. Try to compare a bmw 320i to a bmw 340xdrive. There is a 25k difference. Video is fucking useless here. Of course the S3 is worth 15k more...but it's not 25k difference in any country
Sapient Budgie Correct . but if you check with let's say... 2018 now. A GLI is fair to compare against the A3 2.0T with S-tronic. A loaded 2018 GLI is 36k... While a A3 2.0T with equal equipment is 41K. Is 5K worth the AWD, Nicer interior, arguable nicer exterior, more refined fit and finish and the Audi ownership experience at dealerships. YES! however... A loaded Golf R is 42k...and a S3 with similar equipment is 56k. Is that worth the extra 13k, I'd say no. Especially with the Golf R's insanely good resale value in Canada for being so exclusive.
Stephen Garofalo valid points. I bought an RS3. I assure you it’s worth the price tag:)
Sapient Budgie to each they're own, the RS3 is wicked. But with a Canadian starting price of 63k. It's hard to compromise some of that sport in exchange for... Let's say an S5 for $2000 less. But that depends on the persons needs when buying.
how about you hold the wheel while driving ? just a suggestion. except that ,thanks for your work.Just don't sell out like others.
Luke Ziom He’s a good driver and driving is second nature when you are, your knee is as good as your hand for holding the wheel straight and on any turn thats not 90 degrees
Woah there Nelly! The original GTI was THE hot hatch of the 70's and early 80's but it went through some crappy evolutions. The new GTI is a seriously good car but there is a lot of competition (here in Europe at least). It makes me sad when I'm in the US and don't see any of the hot hatches we have. But then it makes me sad when I come home and go from a V8 to a diesel 4 banger.
I have a 16 Jetta GTI Authobahn, had tons of fun and I am passing it down to my younger brother
I'm looking into either the Golf R or the RS 3, I wouldn't go for a S3 because it's basically the same as a Golf R
I think you could get the S3 to low 3 second 0-60 in less than a few thousand bucks. I have a JB4 that i'm timing in the low 4s and that cost me less than 500.
Ones a 4 cylinder ones a 5 cylinder the piece of a 5 pot is higher due to engineering for proper cooling and space especially since the engine is mounted tranversally
How can someone make a comparison review when they own and clearly love one of the cars to begin with.
You just earned my sub with this down to earth, real-world comparison, love to vids on copar by the way.
plz look at the Infinity q70 sometime.
A review about two cars without talking about their damage and repairs. Cool.You mentioned that the Jetta has around 200 hp, but you didn't say that the Audi has almost 300.
That Jetta GLI DSG was over $30k sticker new, not $25k. What really sucks about the Jetta is that it doesn't have real leather on the seats, only fake leather throughout (other than the steering wheel and shift knob). The GTI of same generation had leather down middle of seats and vinyl side panels but the Jetta didn't get that. I complained to a VW rep at an auto show about the lack of real leather and he went on about how "it's the finest simulated leather in the industry". Who cares, it's fake and feels like rubber. The leather in my GTI doesn't compare to an Audi A6 2.7T I once owned, but it's a hell of a lot better than fake leather and is still in perfect condition after 6 years of use. Obviously an S3 doesn't compare to the Jetta due to being essentially a Golf R sedan. Much better platform, AWD, higher output, more features, better materials, etc. I certainly wouldn't pay $50k for it though, especially when a pretty loaded Golf R goes for $10K less with same platform and drivetrain.
Just get a used Audi A3 with low miles. They depreciate by around half the price of a new one as soon as you take it off the lot
I was leasing a 2015 A3 Quattro because work's perks were covering most of the cost. When that perk ended and time to return the A3 I crossed shop a bunch of car to buy this time. I came out with the 2015 GLI with face lifted rear and updated interior and push button start. I literally felt like I was in the same car. Not only was the engine and transmission the same most of the button and switches are even identical and reused across two cars. I prefer the GLI to be honest not only because of the value proposition but also objectively it's a more sporty and more fun one to drive of the two.
Should've compared it to the A3 2.0T. Anything you could do to the Jetta to make it better you could do to the Audi. But the Audi has AWD and is roughly only 8 grand more... Audi for the win!
AWD is 100% necessary in Florida during rain.
Honestly I think I would prefer the Jetta, also in the uk you can’t have anything close to 2 litre turbo car for a first car
I don’t know how this guy could come with this comparison, I would never compare a Volkswagen with an Audi , it’s like comparing an BMW (M760 v12) with a Rolls Royce (Ghost), its all about details , manufacture, quality, experience, etc
you are a mix of hoovies garage and doug demeuro
scammer hacker totally, with a dose of Scotty Kilmer.
gotta love that the new S3 already has CEL
Catless downpipe life
I'm pretty sure they're both on the same chassis which means the comparison is a little more valid, honestly though there is no way i would pay any amount of money for either car
I prefer AWD to FWD most of the time... I also prefer RWD to FWD in Florida. Audi is much sexier but for the money.... not sure. It's really about price to performance in most cases. Also.... people might buy the Audi instead if money isn't an issue. For the cost of that Audi though I'd rather have the Subaru STI.
RS3 >>>>>>>>> S3 >>>>>>> A3 > Jetta - why even bother with this comparison?
In Europe you can by a sub brand called SEAT cheaper than the VW with similar specs and then a sub brand of that called Skoda, again cheaper than the SEAT with similar specs.
I own a mark 6 GLI, and service these cars for a living. The ea88 in the GLI is not the same as the one in the S3. The cylinder head and turbo are the main differences. With the Audi pushing over 300hp stock.
Is it worth it? Depends on your preferences.
Audi A3, VW Jetta and Škoda Octavia are mechanicaly same car. One is made on Inglostadt (or Györ, I know that most Lambo engines are from Györ), one in Wolfsburg and one in Mlada Boleslav.
If you have problem with Audi you can put Škoda parts. These are same parts, from same factory but different tag and therefore different price.
For family man, Octavia is by far best. It is the biggest, the cheapest and much simpler to use.
A GLI as a first car?! If you come from money maybe! I EARNED a Wolfsburg Jetta at the age of 32. A realistic aspirational car for most of us.
I wouldn’t buy either new. I’d buy used with low mileage. You get rid of the depreciation when you drive off the lot. So I’d get a used s3 for around $30k. Let’s be honest the s3 is a bit more well put together, sounds better, drives better, looks better.
Well the 2013 jetta is a mk6 golf underneath while the new a3/s3/rs3 and golf/gti/golf r are based on MQB
S3 is a great car and has a better design.
I hate it so much when people call the autobahn a special edition. It’s just a trim level
Firstly, you should compare the S3 with the golf R because those cars are identical. A better comparison is the A3 an GTI, both of which have the same engine and transmission. This jetta has the engine from the mk6.
few years ago I had the 09 Volkswagen Jetta TDI with basically the same package except it was diesel not gas and it was a fun car it sucked in the winter time because you could not get Traction in the winter
Tell me if I'm wrong which I haven't got that far in the video yet almost all Audi cars have the Quattro which is there all wheel drive system and I would assume because the Audi A3 whatever you called it the top of the line would have the all-wheel-drive system that is the only thing that I really wish that the 09 Volkswagen Jetta TDI that I had it was missing was the all-wheel-drive package
I like the Jetta, too. But a GLI with automatic is like $29-30k new.
S3 is Quattro...Jetta is FWD
...Audi is a different platform, then the VW. I don’t know if I’d be comparing these two...now if you had a Golf R next to the Audi that’s a different story. My two cents.
i used to own a jetta gli in my high school years it was the best car i evr own until i got rear end it and total it
"Looking around, this car's actually really nice....." As we pan to the missing/broken glove box and stuff! LMAO. (I know he got at salvage???). LOL
i have a Jetta GLI with 110,000 miles very reliable car and i was thinking to buy the Audi A3 and the price was over price to much money a better go with the GTI hands down
The best A3 you can buy? What about the RS3?
Isn't Audi just the premium range of VW since VW owns Audi?
Gli new autobahn is 35,000$ not 25,000$
Quit talking with your hands while driving! You were driving me crazy.
Alexander McKay stop bitching
Alexander McKay - Stop getting crazy you dumb ass
My mom does that same lol
The S3 isn’t even close to the A3. Different price, different tune, different power. If you’re gonna say you’re comparing an A3 to a Jetta (which would be a more fair comparison) actually use an A3.
I had an audi Fox back in the day and found that timing belts were 1/2q the cost for a rabbit belt as opposed to the Audi belt!
Here's a pro tip....if you buy a Volkswagen/Audi...buy a trunk full of coils, coil connectors , coil harness....oh and some sea foam for that carbon buildup
Korg 170k Audi A4 owner no coils gone bad and no need for sea foam maybe you owned an old 4.2 V8 Audi and had that issue
I had a Jetta GLI MK1. Loved it. You mention the last one with character, was that the VR6 with the 6 speed?
You're totally wrong!!! They're not the same car at all. The Audi A3/S3 has a modern MQB platform, however the Jetta has an old platform....
You can get a supercharged Lada for less than the Jetta!
Nahhhhhhhh the Jetta GLI is literally ALL character
If the new Jetta GLI had a manual trans I would have one.
You don't need the audi A3, all you need is the Jetta, I love my jetta.
Do you see how perfectly aligned is the audi and the bleachers in the back are?
He calls the Jetta a hot hatch when its clearly a saloon, while the S3 is a hatchback. This is why they are not the same.
I would save up for the RS3. What a car.
They are not the same platform, the A3 is actually the golf MK7’s cousin, both the A3 and MK7 Golf are much better cars than the MK6 Jetta.
So you should be comparing the top of the line Golf which is the R and the top of the line A3 which is the RS3, there would be no competition here, the RS3 just kills the R, not saying that the R is a bad car, it’s actually a great car, but the RS3 is a beast of a car.
The new MK7 Jetta (2019) is a different story since it will use the same platform that underprints the A3 and Golf which is Volkswagen group’s MQB platform.
they are the same cars underneath
Joe Gotti here we go another person that thinks they know but really don’t
It’s the same as the a3 not the s3, but the a3 is much more responsive, I own the gli but I’ve driven an A3