Originally, George Lucas insisted that the aliens be colored bright green, to be more reminiscent of 1950s representations of aliens, but Spielberg's resistance to the alien idea carried over to this area and Lucas agreed to color them bright blue. But this had to be changed during production because it conflicted with the blue screens they used to shoot the film. Nevertheless, the movie retained the working title, "Blue Harvest."
@@nicholsonfilenot sure if there *_is_* a compilation up on Yt, or even just the clipped bits, just watch back some trash convoys. You're bound to encounter a few. Plus, it's damn good content. So why not? Ya feez me?
Could they have worked into the script, potentially, a bar scene where they drank shots of crystal skull vodka on the journey to or at the inception of the idea to search for the crystal skulls...
Can you imagine if seeing the alien made her head explode Pulp Fiction style and the movie was a hard R for that reason alone. A cinematic masterpiece.
@@jacksonelh What if it just cut to the outside of them in a car for no reason with Indy driving and the Alien looking back at her from the passenger seat? Then back to whatever was going on after that.
The best line in the movie (in my opinion) is when Mack starts screaming "dont get clever boris, you don't know him, YOU DON'T KNOW HIM" when the Russians try to run indi down in the jeep. It shows that even though he planned to backstab indi he knows he's a hard man to take-out
I always defended the reason why Indy was able to beat the Nazi and even the Russians in the indy films over the years. Like….think about it. Cartoonishly incompetent Nazi but its 1936 & 1938, and they are being sent technically to find what can only be described as “Arcane Jewish trinkets”. Even the Col in raiders said he was uneasy about it. So, you are the head of a military organization and you are planning the possible invasion of Western Europe….and suddenly your boss runs in saying he needs you to send people to start digging in the desert for a box he read about while reading religious fan fiction. Do you really think the head of German High Command would send their best and brightest to dig a hole for a box or look for a cup? No dude is sending fuck ups, rookies and old men with commanders who probably bought their commissions.
As much as I love a fresh one each time, if he just committed to Indiana Jones and the Trivia of the Crystal Trivia for every episode, just to punish us, that would be awesome too. RODNEY!
"Does Indiana Jones need glasses?" is a question that will be debated for decades due to these videos. You have done a great service to the field of optometry.
Speaking of Rob MacGregor, he not only did the novelization of Last Crusade, but wrote a lot of the excellent Indiana Jones books that followed. When Bantam switched authors, I used the primitive 90s internet to track down MacGregor's email to complain about the switch, and ask why he wasn't writing the Indy books any more. To my surprise, he not only replied but actually provided an explanation. After writing six Indy novels back to back he decided he needed a bit of a break, but then Lucasfilm immediately hired a new author. When he didn't work out, they hired another new guy, despite Rob saying he was available and would be happy to return. He closed out by saying "I'm glad I wrote the books and wouldn't mind doing more, especially if the fourth movie ever gets made."
I’m completely on board with the fridge surviving the nuke, however, after all that tumbling and crashing when that door opened it should have just been his fedora riding out on a wave of Harrison Ford soup because he would absolutely be mashed to pieces
Yep, precisely. The way that fridge got flung about and then smashed into the ground and tumbled and bounded, at that point radioactivity and heat would have been the lesser of his problems. The sudden acceleration, the sudden deceleration, the _impact,_ it would have smashed every bone in his body and his brain against the inside of his skull. It felt very Loony Tunes at that point.
I feel the difference between the temple of doom dinghy and the nuke fridge is that yeah in real life dropping out of a plane in a dinghy would kill you, but at least in the film they show it as a soft landing so you can suspend your disbelief. In Crystal Skull they show the fridge having the most insane hard landing ever.
Yes, and the inflatable lifeboat they were in dropped onto an incline and started sliding. There are a few cases of people having actually survived falling out of a flying plane and falling hundreds of feet and dropping into a snow drift of fresh loose snow. Better apparently that dropping into water, because beyond a certain height (or depth?) when you've reached terminal velocity in Earth's gravity, falling into water will be like splatting onto concrete because the water can't move aside fast enough. And the acceleration and rapid decelation as the fridge smashed into the ground and bounced would've smashed every bone in his body and his brain would've smashed against the inside of his skull
@@TF2CrunchyFrog people have fallen out of planes, hit the ground and bounced, and survived with minor injuries. People have also survived a falling elevator. If it's possible to survive that, it's possible to survive being launched in a fridge.
Yeah for me the issue was never the aliens. It was that it felt like Speilberg was phoning it in, Indie was just too damn old, and the extreme overuse of CGI really REALLY detatches it from the aesthetic and quakity of the first 3
Agreed. The CGI harmed it for me too. I didn't mind the fridge (Indie used a life raft to escape a plane for goodness sake). I accepted the premise, daft as it was. If gods, then why not aliens? Great to see Karen Allen looking grand. Bad casting didn't help. Ray Winston has always been a joke. Shia wasn't right for the role. There was a lot of good... But there was a lot of terrible. It could have been wonderful, instead we got OK.
The best part of Indiana Jones is the crazy truck and motor cycle scenes where stuntmen are flying everywhere. Having CGI everything completely ruined that.
It could have been great. There is a core that is fascinating, that of a 1930's man of action dealing with the supernatural with 2 fists and bravado, now a man out of time in the 1950's unsure of himself, dealing with fantastical superscience like aliens and psychics. What could have been...
I thought James and Mason would just tear this to shreds but I actually agree with them here. It’s not the best one but I think it’s fine. There are things I don’t like in it but overall I think it’s fine and has some interesting concepts and set pieces.
The specs Indy wears are most likely reading specs (as observed - he looks OVER them through most of the scene), with a relatively low prescription, roughly in the +2.00 dioptre range. It's quite easy to see and estimate the power of lenses based on the magnification or minification of the eyes and other facial features visible behind the lenses, especially when the character is pictured at an angle.... though maybe 30+ years in the optical industry helps 😉
2008 I was 6 and my dad was meant to take me to see ‘Horton Hears a Who’, got to the cinema and he decided to take me to see this film instead. I LOVED it and I was obsessed and we immediately went and bought all the old ones and watched them that day. This is one of my first memories of films and fun experiences with my dad, for months after I was flipping knives and dressing up as Indy. I LOVE this film, it is NOT good but it holds such an important place in my heart to this day. All in all this film is the reason I am why I am today and my mother still gets mad at my dad about the fact he took me to see this and not a lame kids movie. Thanks dad ❤️
This but with Spider-Man 3, I think I was around 8 years old and I was a massive Tobey Maguire Spider-Man fan, I was visiting my friend and we wanted to watch a movie and he gave me the choice to choose one so I was browsing through his DVD's and out of a sudden I see Spider-Man 3, up to that point I've seen Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 countless times and had zero clue a third movie existed, I just look at the DVD completely frozen in disbelief seeing the DVD with Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and some new mysterious black Spider-Man, I asked him "There's a third Spider-Man movie ?" and he confusedly responded with "yea" so I asked him if we could watch it. I could't believe I was watching a movie I didn't know existed and I loved everything about it, the black goo, Harry being the new Green Goblin, Sandman, the black goo later becoming a new Spider-Man suit, to this day I love this movie and I have hard time looking for any bad things about this movie cause it holds a special place in my heart... I get why a lot of people hate the movie but I really love everything about it...
Mason might be incredibly talented at coming up with witty trivia titles, but it can't compare to James' talent at designing terrible trivia tiles just to spite the audience. I tip my fedora to you, sir.
It was an early example of modern moviemaking technique, where they shoot the scenes with bright flat lighting, and then apply shading and coloring in postproduction.
The 4K release darkens a lot of the bloom. Good example of why Spielberg's decision to reference old visual styles was a terrible decision. 80s movies had a lot of bloom. While I don't think it's a good movie the reduced sun jizz results in a watchable movie. It's a shame Spielberg had tough competition from younger filmmakers who made a name for themselves in the 2000s. Ie Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan. Both had great movies with desaturated looks and hyper sharpness resulted in a leap in image quality for mid-2000s movies.
Blame Spielberg’s regular cinematographer Janusz Kaminsky for that. Ever since Minority Report he started leaning hard into an overblown highlights glossy lighting aesthetic which gives off the impression he’s trying to eliminate shadows. It worked in Minority Report and War of the Worlds because they have this futuristic style to them as befitting of science fiction movies. But in this movie it doesn’t work because it makes everything look so artificial even if it was filmed on a real set or on location. Not helped by the cgi prairie dogs, the costumes looking eternally clean and sterile even in the Amazon jungle scenes, and an overuse of death scenes filmed far away
What I love about this film is that it was originally planned for a game, but Spielberg liked the idea enough that they went "sure, let's make it a movie". Like it's more "out there", so it makes sense for a game for all the action. But as a film it feels non-canon.
I was out walking listening to this and when I bent over to tie my laces, the dvd case opening at 1:58 made me think I snapped my spine for a nanosecond Great video fellas
There’s a great re-edit of this movie out there. I forget what it’s called, but they change some things around, cut some of the weird stuff. They even did the thing you mentioned with Cate Blanchett reacting to something off screen before dying.
I watched all four of them in 2020 during the pandemic, and I liked all of them. I had low expectations for this one since I’ve only heard bad things but I was pleasantly surprised
The hate for this film is grossly exaggerated and misguided. Was it the best Indy film? Not really, but it was a solid adventure that treated everyone with respect. Which is a lot more than you can say for sequels and reboots of recent. It got away from itself some times, sure, but it stayed on the line for the most part.
It's really not that bad. The CGI wasn't great even at the time and looks even worse now, but otherwise it's an enjoyably silly action adventure flick.
I really liked this movie too, the flying saucer was a little much but it didn’t take me out of the film since right after Ox says that the saucer flying away and creating that lake was them covering their footprints like a broom, if that line wasn’t said I don’t think the saucer would have worked at least for me.
Ah you're finally upon the greatest Indiana Jones movie there is. All jokes aside, this is GENUINELY my Mum's favorite Indiana Jones movie because it was the "least scary" of the lot, I'm still yet to meet another person who loves this movie
He wasn't actually supposed to actually fight Dracula. In the original broadcast it is revealed that old Indy (George Hall) was just making up a story to scare kids on Halloween, but when they edited Hall out of the show they accidentally made that canon.
Love watching my personal friend Nick Mason tell everyone about what a great time we had watching a beef man swing through the vines and pick his nose in public
They mention replacing Shila with Josh Hartnet completely forgetting that a few years earlier Ford worked with him on Hollywood Homicide and absolutely hated it
my thought about action adventure movies in general that came to me while watching The Lost City (with Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum). one of the main appeal of these Action Adventure movies is the characters going to faraway places. This particularly must have been appealing when going there for yourself seemed not achievable. Now that flying is much more affordable, these movies might have lost some of that magic ... but the magic is definitely lost when you feel like they aren't there. When the immersion is lost and you realise it's all fake, you're not getting this adventure feeling anymore ... that is why the original trilogy works so well still now. they (mostly) make you feel like you travel around the world, like you're there with the characters in faraway places. The crystal skull with its cgi abuse on the other hand breaks that immersion ... That being said, I'm not against cgi, if used correctly. The effects in Crystal Skull however a few times just aren't where they should be ...
I think the problem with transplanting Indy to a 50's sci fi story is the fact that 50s sci fi stories don't typically lend themselves to pulp adventure archetypes. The vast majority of those stories basically boil down to a scientist in a lab avoiding the monster and coming up with a deus ex machina to defeat them. There aren't any real dungeon delving or tomb raiding or wild action packed adventures where they fight Soviets. They're a lot more subdued than that, so when you put Indy in that setting but without any of the archetypes or tropes, it doesn't mesh well. Everything feels just a little off.
True. Even though everyone was moving on to sci-fi and westerns, sensationalist pulp adventures weren't really a thing anymore. I think this is the reason why putting a character like Indiana Jones after the 40s and setting a movie there just doesn't work. They couldn't pull it off with Indy in the 50s and they're not going to with Indy in the 70s.
Captain Kirk? Is that sci fi? That's pulp and action. Indy 4 uses all the tropes and archetypes of the previous films. It's not a sci fi movie... At all. It's an ancient aliens movie, like "what if there was a real crystal skull out there?" 50s themes are used because it's in the 50s, but they're not merely sci fi themes. It's cold war/soviets, competition, shifting loyalties, paranoia, spies, atom bombs, etc. There's 50s imagery, like greasers, hot rods, a rocket, and so on. The plot isn't about aliens from outer space or visitations or the space age, which hadn't begun. It's about aliens that were on earth in ancient times ruling over societies and secret knowledge.
I think Mac could have worked if it was just the initial betrayal, the reversal with him actually being on Indy's side still, and that's it. He's a good guy the rest of the movie. That would have already been a good twist on the expectation of a betrayal from the other movies. But then it was this increasingly tedious triple/quadruple/whatever cross. Even when I saw this the first time in the theater I remember losing track of how many steps too far they took it, and not really caring by the end. And then his death was just a worse, more awkward version of what happened to Elsa in Last Crusade.
I like Indys arc towards this.... initially he's a academic kind of treasure hunter.... in Temple, the prequel, he is about fortune and glory but learns that there's more to life and becomes a heroic figure. Then in TLC he is a mixture of parent and precious character...who's learned from his life to this... where he could literally be the only one the interdimensional characters can turn too because he's a well meaning psycho.
Lucas wanted this movie to go all in in 50's scifi adventure and I think that would have been the right call. The issue with this movie is for me that it doesn't know what it is about and the different creative forces just kinda make it into a mess. It does have this underlying theme about paranoia and things not being what they seem though which fits the 50's. I do like it but feel it was a bit under developed
Redlettermedia did a critique of the movie when they tore into it but one poignaint thing they bring up is, the first Indiana Jones movie was the classic, the second one went in a dark and risky direction, then the third one went back to the classic formula. This one should have been the risk taker. Unlike Star Wars which had a rough prequel to contend with, the Indiana Jones trilogy was much beloved. Now wasnt the time to play it safe.
@@ThreadBomb "I don't have a problem with the concept, just the execution" Whenever people say that about Lucas movies, they end up being classics (see the prequels). Comment in 5 years and you'll be whistling a different tune, follower.
For the whole of the first 8 or so minutes I was thinking "huh, he doesn't look as old as he seemed when I saw it at the time" - and then you guys said that exact thing.
I'd say the difference between the inflatable raft in Temple and the fridge in Crystal, is that the raft is cushiony, it falls relatively slow, hits the mountain gently, and you have the image of a soft thing in your mind. For the fridge tho, it's smashing and bashing all over, it's hard and flipping around, and all I can think of is Indy in there getting beat to shit while he gets thrown 2 miles in a lead coffin.
I saw this move with my mom back in 2008 in the theater. I was 7, and the experience was amazing, it was the first Indy movie I had seen. It's probably my 2ed favorite.
It was a fine movie. On par with temple of doom. Obviously not as good as raiders or crusade but those movies are excellent. Had the look, feel, and banter of Indiana jones. Other than about 3 dumb moments that can be ignored, it’s a good time. Way better than other adventures movies from the past 10 years
As someone who has always enjoyed Crystal Skull since I saw it in the theaters, it’s nice to see people being positive about the movie. Also Indians Jones fought Dracula… why have we not collectively as a society talked about this before, that sounds amazing.
They all have an implausible survival moment (though Crystal Skull’s fridge moment is the most egregious). in Raiders he survives lashed to the uboat for a couple of days without dying of exposure, in Temple he uses an inflated life raft as a parachute falling probably 1,000 feet, in Crusade he crouches in pure petroleum that is ignited and hides under an inverted coffin. 1, not likely to survive; 2 death all but guaranteed; 3 death guaranteed; 4 death guaranteed and body disintegrated.
Spielberg had truly lost his "magic touch" by this point. And the boys are right, Harrison still looking incredible in this one, maybe it was the direction that was listless, and so we got a listless performance. I'm still on the fence as to whether I'll go and see the new one, I don't have high-hopes, sorry James!
But later he made Tin Tin, which for me showed he still had every ounce of ability to make a proper Indiana Jones movie. I'm putting the blame here on Lucas.
@mrpalaces I agree, Tintin was good, but he had the advantage of awesome source material, and an entire animation studio of talent. I imagine it would be VERY different actually directing. Struggling to think of any live-action film of his I liked in the past decade or more. But, maybe you're right
@directorforplastic7929 haven't seen it yet, it didn't appeal to me all that much.. worth a watch? I had heard good things, also about West Side Story (even though it bombed)
I'm a Matrix sequel apologist, but I honestly believe that Keanu Reeves fighting 100 agents in a courtyard, STILL looks better than Shia swinging with those Monkeys
The thing that always irked me about this is the reveal that Mutt is Indy’s kid. Considering how he resented his dad for not being there for him growing up, I feel like Indy would’ve been devastated to learn that he’d indirectly done the same to his own child. He wasn’t pissed enough at Marion for denying him the ability to be there. Mutt wasn’t pissed enough at his mom for lying to him his entire life. It was just hand-waved after a very trivial argument scene. They didn’t really want to get into how messed up that whole situation was, so they played it for laughs when it really wasn’t funny.
A cute ongoing easter egg RE: Neil Flynn (Janitor from ‘Scrubs’)… he was the cop on the train that tried to stop Richard Kimball in “The Fugitive”, and he has a small scene with Harrison in the new show “Shrinking”
I haven't seen this one again but I remember it just feeling out of time. Like The Phantom with Billy Zane. Imagine them making that movie with the same vibe today. It just wouldn't feel right so it'd be hard to get into. I think with Skull, they didn't just try to recapture that feeling from the earlier entries, they tried to recreate it and it just didn't work.
Your comment about how it looks glowy and soft is so spot-on, and you make the same point about the Hobbit. There is something so fake-looking about both this and the hobbit movies. I've never understood what they did here, but even the shot you freeze of Last Crusade shows it. Last Crusade (and other other Indies) looks real. It looks used, lived in, etc. You can tell these days how some shots are rotoscoped, but even that still looks so much better than whatever they did here. Why does it look so bad?
This really goes to show how everything modern is destroying cinema and everything more than 10 years old is an “underrated masterpiece.” It’s not even contrarianism anymore, the nostalgia cycle revolves so rapidly now that it might as well be measured in months rather than years.
“It just feels late” that summarises my take pretty much, it’s hugely disconnected from the first 3. I’d say the dips for me are bad enough the whole movie is just not worth it but I’m not claiming there aren’t some redeeming things in it there are some cool shots but overall I won’t rewatch it when I do the others
Im gonna be honest, there's really only 3 things I dislike about this movie. The fridge-scene, the weird bit with Shia & the monkeys, and the spaceship. otherwise its....fine. Not great, not outstanding, but also not horrible. Just fine, you can watch and enjoy it.
@@titusmccarthy I disagree. We're obviously not supposed to take it seriously. What follows in the movie is much worse, because it's the main story but done so poorly in every way.
On a recent rewatch - haven’t seen the movie in maybe a decade - I was surprised that I actually enjoyed the movie. The pulp 50s sci-fi stuff I appreciate now, and the first half has got some good bits. Looking forward to Ission: Mpossible - Host Total Recall next week!
I feel you two are the only ones to analyze Indiana Jones eyewear and I really appreciate that.
Analyse*
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@@user-ef3nr1cn4r Analeyes
Originally, George Lucas insisted that the aliens be colored bright green, to be more reminiscent of 1950s representations of aliens, but Spielberg's resistance to the alien idea carried over to this area and Lucas agreed to color them bright blue. But this had to be changed during production because it conflicted with the blue screens they used to shoot the film. Nevertheless, the movie retained the working title, "Blue Harvest."
Well done, sir.
You actually got me
As soon as I saw "bright blue" I already knew where it was going. Read it all anyway and loved it!
Well played.
damn
😂😂😂😂
Laurence continuing to make the Linkin Park Transformers end credits joke will get me every time.
Best worst end credits ever
Is it the new Rodney?
Whaaaaaatttt III've doneeeee
@@kassandra_sae4563 Can someone link me to the the Linkin Park clips?
@@nicholsonfilenot sure if there *_is_* a compilation up on Yt, or even just the clipped bits, just watch back some trash convoys. You're bound to encounter a few. Plus, it's damn good content. So why not? Ya feez me?
James you could definitely pull off that Marlon Brando outfit
This is good news since I already purchased it on etsy
@@mrsundaymovies gonna need a Photoshoot asap
@@mrsundaymovies A Bad Bloke Brando Cosplay to rival Worst Hair for Cliff-jumping Tom Cruise Cosplay
Time to pull out some Crystal Skull vodka and enjoy this video.
Funnily enough that’s also the requirement to enjoy this movie XD
I don't like to be that guy, but it's actually Crystal Head vodka. 100% this movie messed everyone up on that point though (including me)
Dan Aykroyd would definitely like you lol
Could they have worked into the script, potentially, a bar scene where they drank shots of crystal skull vodka on the journey to or at the inception of the idea to search for the crystal skulls...
Found Dan Aykroyd's alt account... ;)
Can you imagine if seeing the alien made her head explode Pulp Fiction style and the movie was a hard R for that reason alone. A cinematic masterpiece.
just put a big fire in front of it to retain the pg-13 rating
@@jacksonelh What if it just cut to the outside of them in a car for no reason with Indy driving and the Alien looking back at her from the passenger seat? Then back to whatever was going on after that.
pulp fiction is definitely a “hard r” movie lol
Given the time frame the movie is set in, I think it's possible Indiana Jones dropped a few hard R's
I mean, that's almost what happened with Raiders of the Lost Ark lol
The best line in the movie (in my opinion) is when Mack starts screaming "dont get clever boris, you don't know him, YOU DON'T KNOW HIM" when the Russians try to run indi down in the jeep. It shows that even though he planned to backstab indi he knows he's a hard man to take-out
I agree, mate.
I'm glad Indi made an appearance in the film even if I missed it.
I’m pretty sure the actually line was “You don’t KNOW HIM, KNOW HIM, KNOW HIM, YOU DON’T KNOW HIM, YOU, YOU, YOU, DON’T, HIM, KNOW, YOU KNOW, DON’T KNOW HIM!!!”
I always defended the reason why Indy was able to beat the Nazi and even the Russians in the indy films over the years. Like….think about it. Cartoonishly incompetent Nazi but its 1936 & 1938, and they are being sent technically to find what can only be described as “Arcane Jewish trinkets”. Even the Col in raiders said he was uneasy about it. So, you are the head of a military organization and you are planning the possible invasion of Western Europe….and suddenly your boss runs in saying he needs you to send people to start digging in the desert for a box he read about while reading religious fan fiction. Do you really think the head of German High Command would send their best and brightest to dig a hole for a box or look for a cup? No dude is sending fuck ups, rookies and old men with commanders who probably bought their commissions.
I’m just glad James brought back his incredibly witty and clever trivia titles
Like green trivia wasn't
i miss rodney
@@hardoutmedia A loss greater than Sean Connery, imho. Damn LXG!
As much as I love a fresh one each time, if he just committed to Indiana Jones and the Trivia of the Crystal Trivia for every episode, just to punish us, that would be awesome too.
RODNEY!
@@hardoutmediaRodney!!
I love that when Spielberg agreed to the interdimensional beings thing he asked Lucas what they would look like and Lucas said Aliens 😅
"Does Indiana Jones need glasses?" is a question that will be debated for decades due to these videos. You have done a great service to the field of optometry.
Speaking of Rob MacGregor, he not only did the novelization of Last Crusade, but wrote a lot of the excellent Indiana Jones books that followed. When Bantam switched authors, I used the primitive 90s internet to track down MacGregor's email to complain about the switch, and ask why he wasn't writing the Indy books any more. To my surprise, he not only replied but actually provided an explanation.
After writing six Indy novels back to back he decided he needed a bit of a break, but then Lucasfilm immediately hired a new author. When he didn't work out, they hired another new guy, despite Rob saying he was available and would be happy to return.
He closed out by saying "I'm glad I wrote the books and wouldn't mind doing more, especially if the fourth movie ever gets made."
and now just this year, the guy released his long-cancelled novelization of "Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings" online for free. Pretty neat.
Neat, I look up those novels to read now
Interested to see how Harrison Ford does in the new one now he's 104 years old.
It will be fine, he was only 103 at the time of shooting.
Nah it'll be fine
@@Normal_Boii I read that in a drunk Scottish accent. I’m sure we both know why.
I hope you're not giving the new one money? We have to stop paying disney to turn our hero's into bitter lonely failures.
He's 80
Lawrence liberally uses the “here’s the Thing” joke in his edits, and I seriously appreciate that. You’re the man, Law-Dog!
I’m completely on board with the fridge surviving the nuke, however, after all that tumbling and crashing when that door opened it should have just been his fedora riding out on a wave of Harrison Ford soup because he would absolutely be mashed to pieces
I think this is key, I can accept Indy surviving a nuke OR surviving a fall of hundreds of feet. I can’t accept both at once.
Then they could have based a sequel on the soup.
Indiana Jones and the Soup of Salvation
Yea, that's when it went from feeling like indiana jones to more like homer simpson
Yep, precisely. The way that fridge got flung about and then smashed into the ground and tumbled and bounded, at that point radioactivity and heat would have been the lesser of his problems. The sudden acceleration, the sudden deceleration, the _impact,_ it would have smashed every bone in his body and his brain against the inside of his skull. It felt very Loony Tunes at that point.
And then he got up and just looked at the mushroom cloud from not that far away, without any ill effects at all.
“You mentioned Mac and that you like him or whatever”
“……who’s Mac?”
😂😂😂 so much for liking Mac 😂😂😂
I feel the difference between the temple of doom dinghy and the nuke fridge is that yeah in real life dropping out of a plane in a dinghy would kill you, but at least in the film they show it as a soft landing so you can suspend your disbelief. In Crystal Skull they show the fridge having the most insane hard landing ever.
Yes, and the inflatable lifeboat they were in dropped onto an incline and started sliding. There are a few cases of people having actually survived falling out of a flying plane and falling hundreds of feet and dropping into a snow drift of fresh loose snow. Better apparently that dropping into water, because beyond a certain height (or depth?) when you've reached terminal velocity in Earth's gravity, falling into water will be like splatting onto concrete because the water can't move aside fast enough. And the acceleration and rapid decelation as the fridge smashed into the ground and bounced would've smashed every bone in his body and his brain would've smashed against the inside of his skull
@@TF2CrunchyFrog people have fallen out of planes, hit the ground and bounced, and survived with minor injuries. People have also survived a falling elevator. If it's possible to survive that, it's possible to survive being launched in a fridge.
The reason Cate Blanchett blew up was because the aliens gave her the preview for the snake eyes episode and it was too much for her to handle.😂
Yeah for me the issue was never the aliens. It was that it felt like Speilberg was phoning it in, Indie was just too damn old, and the extreme overuse of CGI really REALLY detatches it from the aesthetic and quakity of the first 3
I really don't think any of the CG animals were necessary.
Agreed. The CGI harmed it for me too. I didn't mind the fridge (Indie used a life raft to escape a plane for goodness sake). I accepted the premise, daft as it was. If gods, then why not aliens? Great to see Karen Allen looking grand. Bad casting didn't help. Ray Winston has always been a joke. Shia wasn't right for the role. There was a lot of good... But there was a lot of terrible. It could have been wonderful, instead we got OK.
The best part of Indiana Jones is the crazy truck and motor cycle scenes where stuntmen are flying everywhere.
Having CGI everything completely ruined that.
It could have been great. There is a core that is fascinating, that of a 1930's man of action dealing with the supernatural with 2 fists and bravado, now a man out of time in the 1950's unsure of himself, dealing with fantastical superscience like aliens and psychics. What could have been...
I've heard this called Kingdom of the Plastic Skull. I think that perfectly describes the kind of fakey aesthetic that permeates this movie.
I thought James and Mason would just tear this to shreds but I actually agree with them here. It’s not the best one but I think it’s fine. There are things I don’t like in it but overall I think it’s fine and has some interesting concepts and set pieces.
It's the Tintin of the Indiana Jones movies
"Its not the best one" is a weird way of spelling "It's definitely the worst one"
@@nicholsonfile Ironic that Spielberg would direct the CGI film and it was a better adventure than Crystal Skull was.
@@evananderson1455 Listen, we all had fun with it!
@@evananderson1455 Yeah, well, it was the worst one until now…
The specs Indy wears are most likely reading specs (as observed - he looks OVER them through most of the scene), with a relatively low prescription, roughly in the +2.00 dioptre range. It's quite easy to see and estimate the power of lenses based on the magnification or minification of the eyes and other facial features visible behind the lenses, especially when the character is pictured at an angle.... though maybe 30+ years in the optical industry helps 😉
2008 I was 6 and my dad was meant to take me to see ‘Horton Hears a Who’, got to the cinema and he decided to take me to see this film instead. I LOVED it and I was obsessed and we immediately went and bought all the old ones and watched them that day. This is one of my first memories of films and fun experiences with my dad, for months after I was flipping knives and dressing up as Indy. I LOVE this film, it is NOT good but it holds such an important place in my heart to this day. All in all this film is the reason I am why I am today and my mother still gets mad at my dad about the fact he took me to see this and not a lame kids movie. Thanks dad ❤️
This movie came out when horton hears a who came out? I watched that one with my dad
This but with Spider-Man 3, I think I was around 8 years old and I was a massive Tobey Maguire Spider-Man fan, I was visiting my friend and we wanted to watch a movie and he gave me the choice to choose one so I was browsing through his DVD's and out of a sudden I see Spider-Man 3, up to that point I've seen Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 countless times and had zero clue a third movie existed, I just look at the DVD completely frozen in disbelief seeing the DVD with Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and some new mysterious black Spider-Man, I asked him "There's a third Spider-Man movie ?" and he confusedly responded with "yea" so I asked him if we could watch it.
I could't believe I was watching a movie I didn't know existed and I loved everything about it, the black goo, Harry being the new Green Goblin, Sandman, the black goo later becoming a new Spider-Man suit, to this day I love this movie and I have hard time looking for any bad things about this movie cause it holds a special place in my heart... I get why a lot of people hate the movie but I really love everything about it...
yay, I guess.
Anyone born after 2000 will always be a child
@@user-ef3nr1cn4r and anyone born before is cursed to watch them until they die
I love Cate Blanchett's character as this ruthless Russian captain. She's awesome
I think she's up there with Elsa, Todt, Mola Ram and Belloq as an iconic Indiana Jones villain.
Definitely my favorite Indy villain
@@jase276 She's so ruthless
He drank from the holy grail, I always assumed that was why he survived the blast in the fridge, and why he's still going strong.
Mason might be incredibly talented at coming up with witty trivia titles, but it can't compare to James' talent at designing terrible trivia tiles just to spite the audience. I tip my fedora to you, sir.
Lawrence, this is some of your best work! Outstanding job!
I've been really enjoying his "heres the thing" joke over the last who knows how many weeks
Yes!! Many very funny moments, terrific job! The "but it came out in 2007" meme moment is my favourite.
I also love any "what Iiiiiii've dooooooone" jokes too
This movie had such a weirdly shiny and CG look to it. Even regular scenes on real sets look fake 🤔
It was an early example of modern moviemaking technique, where they shoot the scenes with bright flat lighting, and then apply shading and coloring in postproduction.
The 4K release darkens a lot of the bloom. Good example of why Spielberg's decision to reference old visual styles was a terrible decision. 80s movies had a lot of bloom. While I don't think it's a good movie the reduced sun jizz results in a watchable movie. It's a shame Spielberg had tough competition from younger filmmakers who made a name for themselves in the 2000s. Ie Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan. Both had great movies with desaturated looks and hyper sharpness resulted in a leap in image quality for mid-2000s movies.
Nah. Get your eyes checked
@@ThreadBomb Nothing could be further from the truth.
Blame Spielberg’s regular cinematographer Janusz Kaminsky for that. Ever since Minority Report he started leaning hard into an overblown highlights glossy lighting aesthetic which gives off the impression he’s trying to eliminate shadows. It worked in Minority Report and War of the Worlds because they have this futuristic style to them as befitting of science fiction movies. But in this movie it doesn’t work because it makes everything look so artificial even if it was filmed on a real set or on location. Not helped by the cgi prairie dogs, the costumes looking eternally clean and sterile even in the Amazon jungle scenes, and an overuse of death scenes filmed far away
7:37 EXACTLY! You can tell Harrison was having fun in Force Awakens. His performance had an energy.
What I love about this film is that it was originally planned for a game, but Spielberg liked the idea enough that they went "sure, let's make it a movie".
Like it's more "out there", so it makes sense for a game for all the action. But as a film it feels non-canon.
Temple of Doom too has this non-canon feeling.
I was out walking listening to this and when I bent over to tie my laces, the dvd case opening at 1:58 made me think I snapped my spine for a nanosecond
Great video fellas
Absolutely love the “here’s the Thing” editing gag. Well done
Laurence, if you see this, your ‘Here’s the Thing’ recurring gag in these was a true highlight hahaha well done!
I saw this! Thank you 🙏🏻
@@laurencemp4you are my absolute favourite - every time I see Here's The Thing, I feel like you did it specially for me.
There’s a great re-edit of this movie out there. I forget what it’s called, but they change some things around, cut some of the weird stuff. They even did the thing you mentioned with Cate Blanchett reacting to something off screen before dying.
Yeah it was a good edit. I wish it was in 4K for my home theatre setup
@@NoneYa831 that would be dope, i like that flash back opening sequence they added from The Fountain
I watched all four of them in 2020 during the pandemic, and I liked all of them. I had low expectations for this one since I’ve only heard bad things but I was pleasantly surprised
The hate for this film is grossly exaggerated and misguided. Was it the best Indy film? Not really, but it was a solid adventure that treated everyone with respect. Which is a lot more than you can say for sequels and reboots of recent. It got away from itself some times, sure, but it stayed on the line for the most part.
*all three
@@MrShadowfax42 Imagine pretending something doesn't exist just because you don't like it
It's really not that bad. The CGI wasn't great even at the time and looks even worse now, but otherwise it's an enjoyably silly action adventure flick.
@@OrgaNik_Music Honestly the CGI looks fine to me. Looks almost like contemporary CGI like in Marvel movies.
Unashamedly love this film.
Me too. It has its problems but it’s not a bad Indy movie at all.
I second this
I really liked this movie too, the flying saucer was a little much but it didn’t take me out of the film since right after Ox says that the saucer flying away and creating that lake was them covering their footprints like a broom, if that line wasn’t said I don’t think the saucer would have worked at least for me.
@@alexwest2573 UFOs were definitely the right choice for the 50s Indy. Had to be didn't it? All the movies out at that time and the atomic race.
@@sichinook3793 yea I agree
Ah you're finally upon the greatest Indiana Jones movie there is.
All jokes aside, this is GENUINELY my Mum's favorite Indiana Jones movie because it was the "least scary" of the lot, I'm still yet to meet another person who loves this movie
I think your mum has opened multiple accounts and started spamming this comment section.
@@ThreadBomb You think marketing teams aren't going to do that.
It was my first Indiana Jones movie so it's got a special spot for me.
I do. It's really underappreciated.
He wasn't actually supposed to actually fight Dracula. In the original broadcast it is revealed that old Indy (George Hall) was just making up a story to scare kids on Halloween, but when they edited Hall out of the show they accidentally made that canon.
Love watching my personal friend Nick Mason tell everyone about what a great time we had watching a beef man swing through the vines and pick his nose in public
Can't wait for James to review the best Indiana Jones movie!
They mention replacing Shila with Josh Hartnet completely forgetting that a few years earlier Ford worked with him on Hollywood Homicide and absolutely hated it
my thought about action adventure movies in general that came to me while watching The Lost City (with Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum).
one of the main appeal of these Action Adventure movies is the characters going to faraway places. This particularly must have been appealing when going there for yourself seemed not achievable. Now that flying is much more affordable, these movies might have lost some of that magic ... but the magic is definitely lost when you feel like they aren't there. When the immersion is lost and you realise it's all fake, you're not getting this adventure feeling anymore ... that is why the original trilogy works so well still now. they (mostly) make you feel like you travel around the world, like you're there with the characters in faraway places. The crystal skull with its cgi abuse on the other hand breaks that immersion ... That being said, I'm not against cgi, if used correctly. The effects in Crystal Skull however a few times just aren't where they should be ...
I think the problem with transplanting Indy to a 50's sci fi story is the fact that 50s sci fi stories don't typically lend themselves to pulp adventure archetypes. The vast majority of those stories basically boil down to a scientist in a lab avoiding the monster and coming up with a deus ex machina to defeat them. There aren't any real dungeon delving or tomb raiding or wild action packed adventures where they fight Soviets. They're a lot more subdued than that, so when you put Indy in that setting but without any of the archetypes or tropes, it doesn't mesh well. Everything feels just a little off.
True. Even though everyone was moving on to sci-fi and westerns, sensationalist pulp adventures weren't really a thing anymore. I think this is the reason why putting a character like Indiana Jones after the 40s and setting a movie there just doesn't work. They couldn't pull it off with Indy in the 50s and they're not going to with Indy in the 70s.
"50s sci fi stories don't typically lend themselves to pulp adventure archetypes" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (((deep breath))) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Captain Kirk? Is that sci fi? That's pulp and action.
Indy 4 uses all the tropes and archetypes of the previous films. It's not a sci fi movie... At all. It's an ancient aliens movie, like "what if there was a real crystal skull out there?" 50s themes are used because it's in the 50s, but they're not merely sci fi themes. It's cold war/soviets, competition, shifting loyalties, paranoia, spies, atom bombs, etc. There's 50s imagery, like greasers, hot rods, a rocket, and so on.
The plot isn't about aliens from outer space or visitations or the space age, which hadn't begun. It's about aliens that were on earth in ancient times ruling over societies and secret knowledge.
Imagine if they made a sequel in the mid 90's with Brad Pitt or Leo Dicaprio as his protégé
I think Mac could have worked if it was just the initial betrayal, the reversal with him actually being on Indy's side still, and that's it. He's a good guy the rest of the movie. That would have already been a good twist on the expectation of a betrayal from the other movies. But then it was this increasingly tedious triple/quadruple/whatever cross. Even when I saw this the first time in the theater I remember losing track of how many steps too far they took it, and not really caring by the end. And then his death was just a worse, more awkward version of what happened to Elsa in Last Crusade.
I miss the guy yelling Rodney 😢
RODNEY
I like Indys arc towards this.... initially he's a academic kind of treasure hunter.... in Temple, the prequel, he is about fortune and glory but learns that there's more to life and becomes a heroic figure. Then in TLC he is a mixture of parent and precious character...who's learned from his life to this... where he could literally be the only one the interdimensional characters can turn too because he's a well meaning psycho.
I appreciate Ben's return announced along with the title "Return of the King"
Indy looking at that nuclear mushroom cloud is freaking awesome IMO, always loved that scene
They're not lying. We just finished watching the movie as well, and it definitely has it's peaks. In a vacuum, it is enjoyable.
Honestly, the only bit I really disliked was the monkey swinging scene.
yeah well i have to agree, as shitty it was back then, as okay its today. hm i hope we can thay the same at one point bout the mcguffin of destiny
6:17 Mutt should’ve of been Ryan Gosling their chemistry was so good in Blade Runner 2049.
“You’ll believe a man can climb some boxes”
Lucas wanted this movie to go all in in 50's scifi adventure and I think that would have been the right call. The issue with this movie is for me that it doesn't know what it is about and the different creative forces just kinda make it into a mess.
It does have this underlying theme about paranoia and things not being what they seem though which fits the 50's. I do like it but feel it was a bit under developed
I agree, I don't have a problem with the concept, just the execution.
Redlettermedia did a critique of the movie when they tore into it but one poignaint thing they bring up is, the first Indiana Jones movie was the classic, the second one went in a dark and risky direction, then the third one went back to the classic formula. This one should have been the risk taker. Unlike Star Wars which had a rough prequel to contend with, the Indiana Jones trilogy was much beloved. Now wasnt the time to play it safe.
@@ThreadBomb "I don't have a problem with the concept, just the execution" Whenever people say that about Lucas movies, they end up being classics (see the prequels). Comment in 5 years and you'll be whistling a different tune, follower.
For the whole of the first 8 or so minutes I was thinking "huh, he doesn't look as old as he seemed when I saw it at the time" - and then you guys said that exact thing.
R.I.P. Rodney and Guy Who Screams "Rodney"
Day 482 of asking for the fifth element caravan of garbage
My 3 year crusade for league of extraordinary gentlemen video bore fruit.....keep asking mate
I'd say the difference between the inflatable raft in Temple and the fridge in Crystal, is that the raft is cushiony, it falls relatively slow, hits the mountain gently, and you have the image of a soft thing in your mind. For the fridge tho, it's smashing and bashing all over, it's hard and flipping around, and all I can think of is Indy in there getting beat to shit while he gets thrown 2 miles in a lead coffin.
Dial of destiny has definitely made it clear that we were to harsh on this movie
I'm amazed to hear this was shot on film, I was sure that was one of the things making it feel different from the other 3
14:57 I love this running gag
I saw this move with my mom back in 2008 in the theater. I was 7, and the experience was amazing, it was the first Indy movie I had seen. It's probably my 2ed favorite.
It was a fine movie. On par with temple of doom. Obviously not as good as raiders or crusade but those movies are excellent. Had the look, feel, and banter of Indiana jones. Other than about 3 dumb moments that can be ignored, it’s a good time. Way better than other adventures movies from the past 10 years
Still enjoy this movie. Gets better with age.
What elements are improving for you from the time of its release?
@@finalsecretofchrono1339 I mean, I was just saying it gets better. I never disliked the movie.
No it doesn't
@@blackmantis3130 ok
Take a shot everytime James says “here’s the thing”
I don't understand why Spielberg and Ford were upset with Shia, he took full responsibility for his shortcomings.
As someone who has always enjoyed Crystal Skull since I saw it in the theaters, it’s nice to see people being positive about the movie. Also Indians Jones fought Dracula… why have we not collectively as a society talked about this before, that sounds amazing.
They all have an implausible survival moment (though Crystal Skull’s fridge moment is the most egregious). in Raiders he survives lashed to the uboat for a couple of days without dying of exposure, in Temple he uses an inflated life raft as a parachute falling probably 1,000 feet, in Crusade he crouches in pure petroleum that is ignited and hides under an inverted coffin. 1, not likely to survive; 2 death all but guaranteed; 3 death guaranteed; 4 death guaranteed and body disintegrated.
Spielberg had truly lost his "magic touch" by this point. And the boys are right, Harrison still looking incredible in this one, maybe it was the direction that was listless, and so we got a listless performance. I'm still on the fence as to whether I'll go and see the new one, I don't have high-hopes, sorry James!
But later he made Tin Tin, which for me showed he still had every ounce of ability to make a proper Indiana Jones movie. I'm putting the blame here on Lucas.
@mrpalaces I agree, Tintin was good, but he had the advantage of awesome source material, and an entire animation studio of talent. I imagine it would be VERY different actually directing. Struggling to think of any live-action film of his I liked in the past decade or more. But, maybe you're right
@@RRRRRRPwhat’d you think of the Fabelmans?
@directorforplastic7929 haven't seen it yet, it didn't appeal to me all that much.. worth a watch? I had heard good things, also about West Side Story (even though it bombed)
@@mrpalaces If you actually saw both movies you would know they are equal.
I'm a Matrix sequel apologist, but I honestly believe that Keanu Reeves fighting 100 agents in a courtyard, STILL looks better than Shia swinging with those Monkeys
Non comments are boring, but I can’t pinpoint a highlight here. You two are absolutely on fire and I’m a huge fan. 10 stars bravo!
The thing that always irked me about this is the reveal that Mutt is Indy’s kid. Considering how he resented his dad for not being there for him growing up, I feel like Indy would’ve been devastated to learn that he’d indirectly done the same to his own child. He wasn’t pissed enough at Marion for denying him the ability to be there. Mutt wasn’t pissed enough at his mom for lying to him his entire life. It was just hand-waved after a very trivial argument scene. They didn’t really want to get into how messed up that whole situation was, so they played it for laughs when it really wasn’t funny.
How about the new one where mutt supposedly joined the Marines and went to Nam as a F you to Indy??
Cant wait to see Mutt and hear about his adventures. :)
…oh
I’m pretty sure the guy climbing the boxes is actually a stunt double just because of the decision to completely cover his face with shadows lol
A cute ongoing easter egg RE: Neil Flynn (Janitor from ‘Scrubs’)… he was the cop on the train that tried to stop Richard Kimball in “The Fugitive”, and he has a small scene with Harrison in the new show “Shrinking”
I haven't seen this one again but I remember it just feeling out of time. Like The Phantom with Billy Zane. Imagine them making that movie with the same vibe today. It just wouldn't feel right so it'd be hard to get into.
I think with Skull, they didn't just try to recapture that feeling from the earlier entries, they tried to recreate it and it just didn't work.
That animation of Indy jumping into the Ark of the Covenant is amazingly funny. Give that man an Oscar!
In my brain canon.... Sean Connery got struck by lightning because of the little umbrella he was carrying all the time., that's how we went out.
the big cutting machine was my favorite Lego Indiana Jones set
Long time fan, in the timezones I have lived this is my first time catching the premiere, 😊❤
WELCOME AND THANK YOU
I like it apart from the bad CGI.
Your comment about how it looks glowy and soft is so spot-on, and you make the same point about the Hobbit. There is something so fake-looking about both this and the hobbit movies. I've never understood what they did here, but even the shot you freeze of Last Crusade shows it. Last Crusade (and other other Indies) looks real. It looks used, lived in, etc. You can tell these days how some shots are rotoscoped, but even that still looks so much better than whatever they did here. Why does it look so bad?
10:25 “I know it’s unrealistic, I just don’t care” Now that’s what I call a critic!!!
This really goes to show how everything modern is destroying cinema and everything more than 10 years old is an “underrated masterpiece.” It’s not even contrarianism anymore, the nostalgia cycle revolves so rapidly now that it might as well be measured in months rather than years.
“It just feels late” that summarises my take pretty much, it’s hugely disconnected from the first 3. I’d say the dips for me are bad enough the whole movie is just not worth it but I’m not claiming there aren’t some redeeming things in it there are some cool shots but overall I won’t rewatch it when I do the others
I’m surprised Spielberg took issue with Shia’s comments, it was clear he blamed himself for not being ready to fill that role.
Thanks for showing “Bridge to Yesterday” when talking about radio plays. I came up with the story and helped produce that audio drama. 👍🏻
I hope that Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny has a lengthy post credit scene sxlaining what kind of glasses Indy has.
It’s way better now than it was when I first watched it. I’ve watched it twice now and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Im gonna be honest, there's really only 3 things I dislike about this movie.
The fridge-scene, the weird bit with Shia & the monkeys, and the spaceship.
otherwise its....fine. Not great, not outstanding, but also not horrible. Just fine, you can watch and enjoy it.
Shia LaBoeuf in 2008 was the Mk1 version of what Chris Pratt became, but he was too volatile
The Fridge Nuke is one of the scenes in movie history.
one of the WORST
@@titusmccarthy I disagree. We're obviously not supposed to take it seriously. What follows in the movie is much worse, because it's the main story but done so poorly in every way.
It was so cool to see all the passion that went into this non-canon fan film
The Phantom Menace of the Indiana Jones franchise. Here we come!
Just need to change one word Indiana Jones and the Temple of the crystal trivia was right there
On a recent rewatch - haven’t seen the movie in maybe a decade - I was surprised that I actually enjoyed the movie. The pulp 50s sci-fi stuff I appreciate now, and the first half has got some good bits.
Looking forward to Ission: Mpossible - Host Total Recall next week!
I saw first version😎
You couldn’t have an army of indigenous people in lion cloths chasing the protagonist
"He should've gotten into the Ark of the Covenant. He could have taken a nuclear-powered journey with God."
I don't mind that it is Aliens but I just don't think it's done very well.
This is gonna be good
Saw Tom Cruise put his hood on from behind and really thought it was Morbius for a split second. Really wish it was Morbius RIP Monthbius
“let’s take a different iconic look and just slap it on this fucking idiot” lmao so mean to Shia 😂