Build a stadium and only use it for two decades, then build another one that's even smaller but costs more and demolish the original. The sports version of Orwell.
@@dudermcdudeface3674I think it may have been the fact that the 2010 Flood was a historic flood for the city. I'm sure they accounted for flooding in the construction, but I doubt they accounted for a never before seen historic flood. Source: I'm a Nashville Native
@@dudermcdudeface3674 2010 was truly historic. You can still see water damage at Opry Mills. It's like how in Florida buildings are designed for hurricanes but particularly bad ones still damage things.
It’s comical and disappointing that billionaires say that taxpayers should fund stadiums as it’s their source of entertainment. Like wtf? We give you our business and our money for entertainment it’s not you who is making it for us. Respect to Ballmer and Sofi owners for putting their own money on the line. The same thing is going on in Jacksonville and buffalo. Imagine if the city spent the same money in other infrastructure developments like public transit, water, schools, etc.
It’s not “your” tax money. If you do a little bit of research you’d realize that the bonds issued for this stadium will be paid back with a small increase in hotel tax. Meaning it’s people coming in from out of town that pay the bill when they’re coming into town as tourists. Nothing is coming out of general funds. Keeping a team in your city, especially when the city is trying to attract more pro sports teams and more tourism is a big deal and will benefit the area more broadly than just what the sports team will generate.
@ryand5725 It should be privately funded. A city shouldn't be paying the majority of the construction for infrastructure that doesn't directly benefit the residents like roads, libraries, schools, public transit, etc. In LA, sports venues are privately funded like the Sofi Stadium and the recently opened Intuit Dome. Even the under construction Lucas Museum is privately funded. And those hotel taxes could be better spent for residents instead of paying back debt to build this sports venue.
as a lifelong Nashville native of 30 years, i think the city has become very nice and i genuinely think its an awesome and cool city, but i absolutely hate what its become.
@@nathanmoynihan3217 the current stadium holds a lot events though. CMA fest, concerts every other week at least, and some college games. Once finished, I see it being used even more.
Although Nashville is still growing with people moving here from places like Calif and NY,, driving up the cost of living, the majority of tax payers here, are either native to the city, or have been here for 3-4 decades… most of those natives, won’t even get to see the inside of the stadium bc they can’t afford the prices for tickets… but they will still have to pay for it. That’s my biggest complaint.
@@WGAGENCY my life doesn’t matter anymore? Wow.. did you bring that attitude from Calif with you? I see “Agency” in your name. Are you a part of the building group industry that has turned houses into investments instead of homes? Trade it in every 2 yrs like a car? What’s the “WG” stand for? “Wealthy Gentrification”?? That must be it. Other peoples lives don’t matter anymore… gotta go find a “new old Nashville”….
China's got a pretty robust HSR network and it's one of the worlds largest countries 🤷♀ We can do it in the US too. It'd be safer and cheaper in the long run
@@kennethhall289As someone whose visual impairments prevent me from driving, I disagree with that entirely. I would love better and faster public transportation. But I’m just one person lol
I think it's telling that they can so easily find funding for a stadium that basically benefits the corporate owners of the Titans, but can't or wont find funding for light rail that would benefit way more of the people who live there. Nashville is one of the largest cities without a public transit rail network (this does not count commuter trains)
I'm glad to see people seem to have woken up and realized billionaires don't need public tax money or handouts. Let them threaten to move the team. 90% of the time they're bluffing just to get free money
I used to live on Knob Road, off of White Bridge Road could leave my door unlocked in the 1980's, do not even think about opening your door today.. They are demolishing the brick duplexes, some of which were converted into single family homes, and constructing those tally, skinny town houses. Nashville has never been known for vertical living.
Same. From here and the entire country decided to move here after like 2015. All NPCs who cant think for themselves so they all just came to the same city. Can't wait to get out of here. Overrated. Overpriced and now over taxed.
Brilliant idea, a city that is fucking oversaturated like Austin and decides to pump billions into a bread-and-circuses palace, rather than in public transit to reduce the notorious traffic congestion and improve accessibility for the bread-and-circus events that this new venue is expected to attract.
Having spent extended times in both cities, I understand the comparison but what’s going on in Nashville is much worse. Nashville is a civic horror story.
The nfl money grab is just disgusting Player contracts getting bigger than ever. Owners lying to the public about the benefits of new stadiums to the community The NFL has brainwashed us into thinking that every single team needs a new stadium every 10-20 years for no reason whatsoever 😂
@@Dfromdtowndwyeah sure but then you seriously limit your ticket sales for other events. We missed out on the World Cup because Nissan Stadium is an open air dump.
@@holden5478 Maybe it was just a dump because the last world cup was held in open-air stadiums. New England's gillette stadium has shopping, dining and entertainment, lumen stadium and levi stadium are other open-air stadiums that are active year-round. Open-air venues have overwhelmingly been the more popular platforms throughout history. Domes used in places like Minnesota or Detroit are somewhat understandable. Basically it comes back to the nfl making bad decisions due to big wigs being out of touch with most fans. I think the day lambeau field becomes a dome will be the final blow for the brand.
Part of me is going to miss the old stadiums. I love the late season/playoff games in the cold weather and snow. It's wild to me that stadiums like the Patriots, Ravens, Giants/Jets, Steelers, Eagles are now seen as outdated. It feels like every owner just wants an indoor $2 billon mega stadium.
Because the NFL sees the path to the future is to not present the NFL as a sporting event,but more as a theme park that is generating money 365 days a year. A stadium open for 10 football games,tractor pulls, and the occasional out door concert, is not getting the return that a stadium in use year around with an entertainment district, condos, apartments, shopping, movie theaters, resturants,bars,and night clubs, can generate.
@TheLAGopher An entertainment district set up by a municipality around a stadium doesn't make it a them park that generates revenue year round. None of that you just said made any sense. Concerts, other shows, and sporting events is what stadiums are used for. That is how they make money. Period. Stadiums simply getting larger and more expensive doesn't change that. It's still a stadium.
There's definitely an obsession with those High definition, Halo screens in the infrastructure across the USA currently 😂 They're so clear in person too 😭
I lived in Nashville for over twenty years. I now live in Kauai. The state raised Kauai sales tax to fund the Honolulu light rail's financial shortcomings. I may use the light rail, perhaps once in my life as I do not visit Honolulu. I know how the residents of Tennessee feel.
So far, all studies have shown that any public money used to fund these stadiums for billionaires never gives the rate of return that allows the municipalities to recover to break even.
We have teachers all over the US quitting and starting an only fans channel because they can’t live on $50 grand a year. But instead of make sure we pay THE FRICKEN person that has the 3 most important influence on our children’s lives we give money to billionaires for new stadiums. No wonder our kids struggle in life.
Property taxes pay for schools. You want better schools pay more in property taxes. The funds to build the stadium come from the team, the state of Tennessee, personal seat license sales, taxes collected at the stadium and a new 1% hotel/motel tax.
I’ve visited. The stadium is fine. It’s not like they’re winning a super bowl any time soon. Win one and get your new stadium. It’s a negotiation, right? Looking forward to the Oklahoma Titans.
I think if you look at history - you won't see any public funding of stadiums for sports teams - before - Ronnie Raygun - told everyone that it is all the governments fault - and just leave it to him - he will let rich people not pay taxes - and they will shower the rest of us peasants with their benevolence.
There was always discussion that the current site of the existing stadium would be turned into a Riverfront Park. As well, some last-minute design changes has increased the total cost of the stadium to $2.2B, with the additional $.1B absorbed by the Titans.
LA has a long history of not providing public financing for these types of structures. Not only is the Intuit Dome privately funded, but so was the $5.5 billion Sofi Stadium. The under construction George Lucas Museum is also privately funded.
And those owners had the money and will own the facilities. Miss Amy isn’t as rich as you may think, plus it’s the city that will own the stadium not the titans. The stadium is going to be used for all kinds of events, not just football. Also the taxpayers are not paying for this stadium if you’d pay attention, it’s being paid for by the tourists. Even if the taxpayers did pay for it, it wouldn’t matter, cause they would be spending nearly the same for the upkeep of the current stadium.
Yeah, because LA is the second largest market in the country. What are LA teams going to do? Tell the city they're going to leave? Here in Indianapolis, when taxpayers funded the Colts stadium, it was because we were truly fearful they might leave Indy.
The builder of sofi stadium, Stan Kroenke, threatened st Louis that he will leave if the city won’t agree to his stadium deal. The city give a good proposal and he still left. Fuck that guy.
As an Australian, it's amazing how many American stadiums have the concerns of 'bUt wHeReS tHe pArKiNg'. Like, have y'all never heard of trains lmao? We have 80,000 seat stadiums with ZERO parking - you just get jump on the train and go wherever you need to go. No traffic, no hassles.
What’s particularly troubling is the apparent lack of foresight regarding parking infrastructure and public transportation to and from the stadium. One of the most unsightly aspects of stadium design in the United States is the juxtaposition of a strikingly beautiful stadium against the backdrop of a sprawling, unattractive parking lot.
I supervise construction in Nashville, and my company does work for the company that is building the new Nissan stadium. I assume we will be doing work in there. Pretty damn cool.
As with the plans considered for other NFL venues like KC, the design caters to the wealthy and ultra wealthy crowd with premium entertainment levels and suites. Leaving the larger and dedicated average fan base out in the cold to watch on TV. Which has its own growing cost challenges due to the advent of paid streaming services.
There is one key detail that needs to be mentioned. The titans deal created the opportunity for the city to bid out adjacent parcels of land for new development as well. Metro has awarded the initial 30 acres already and will begin receiving ground lease payments, substantially increased property tax revenue, and immeasurable economic benefit from that deal. The city also is requiring a certain number of affordable housing units be built around the stadium and that number totals more than 700 in just the initial 30 acres.
Another issue are those clauses that many NFL teams have with their stadium leases stating to one degree to another that their current stadium must be in the top tier of NFL stadiums otherwise the team can break the lease and move their team to a city willing to fund a new state of the art stadium for them (e.g Rams to LA)
Another thing is that top tier clause was put in place in the 90s when the NFL was undergoing expansion into Jacksonville,and Carolina. But also a relocation boom of NFL teams moving to St.Louis,Nashville, back to Oakland, and into Baltimore (requiring the NFL to expand back into Cleveland) Cities desperate to get teams,and keep teams signed off on "top tier" clauses. What they didn't see coming was the rise of "Destination" NFL stadiums that were not marketed as hallowed grounds for pro football but as lavis sports meccas where the building itself, is the attraction.
This does absolutely nothing to improve the daily life of a Nashville citizen, in fact, it will add to the stress of commuting and makes the parking situation even worse. It's only good for the big business guys and the state of TN, who do not have the best interest of Tennesseans in mind
Billionaire have regular citizens pay for stadium merchandise 10 dollar hot dogs 12 dollar beers ect this is insane we the people need to wake up to this kind of stuff
Warriors - Chase Center Arena, was fully privately funded by the Warriors as well. They didn't ask a dime for the 1.4bill in public funding. They were the 1st professional team ever to do that.
Even if the stadium makes money for the city, the people won't see any of it. It will probably just raise prices in the area because "it's a new stadium".
I’m in Jacksonville and these comments are hilarious; they’re very similar to the comments Jacksonville residents were making. I say step into the future; this is going to be awesome.
As an upper deck PSL holder since the beginning, I wouldn't mind being indoors for once. I burn up August - early October and freeze in the winter, not to mention getting soaked in the rain. I still go to the games even in the extremes, but it would be nice to not have to deal with it.
@@snowcat8971 I see. Are you dressed appropriately for the weather conditions and do you have sunscreen on? By your statement I can tell you are not a outdoor person.
@@snowcat8971 I’m from South Mississippi. It’s way more humid and hotter down here. I attended many games at Ole Miss Miss State and USM. I only attended 4 Tennessee Titan games. I have family in Nashville Tennessee. The weather is more pleasant than south Mississippi.
9''000 less seats, roof in a city that doesn't have snow, artificial turf, and a donut design... Nope...! The current stadium looks way nicer. Keep it!!!
I see some saying Alliegant Stadium in Vegas only sits 5,000 more at 65,000. What they don't know it expanse to 72,000 for Superbowl or other big events. It sits 75,000 for concerts
Traffic is one thing, but the conditions of some of the roads/interstates is downright dangerous. Potholes are everywhere, and have been forever. Seeing vehicles on the side of the road with flat tires or damage due to hitting a pothole is a common sight. Lord help you if you're on a motorcycle. But hey, we're getting a new Stadium!
There is a story about the PSL license prices being tripled or quadrupled for the new stadium, the actual ticket to get in the gate will be even more expensive.
You gotta make room for the premium box seats and private lounge areas. Can't have the everyday fan have any basic luxuries like extra seating to view the game.
I love where the ownership hires a firm to evaluate the stadium and they amazingly found that it would Be cost effective for the state to build a new stadium.
The visible foundation cracking was a big part, but the huge concerts and other large events the city has is more incentive to build a domed smatadoum.
One not w have is the area beside the new stadium won’t be a parking lot. The city is making a strong push to redevelop the entire east bank of the river. It will park space or mixed use development
I'm not a TN local, but I'm aware that the state is car-centric. My ideal version of Nashville would be public transit, with the land next door being turned into a major transit center. I've been there before and the pedestrian bridge to me seems like the perfect beginning piece of transit accessibility.
Its the dome that Taylor, Beyonce, and Garth built. The use of existing Nissan stadium as a concert venue(especially during CMA fest) is the reason it is being replaced. What does the weather in Nashville do during the evening in June?? Thunderstorms. So many concerts have been delayed or canceled at the existing outdoor stadium, it usually happens once or twice a year. Thus the dome.
I went to CMA fest and before we arrived, it poured down rain. The seats were wet and it started to sprinkle. I’m glad that the new stadium adds a dome.
Imagine you are trying to buy a house and itwas built in 1999. You would say it is pretty new. But when it comes to sport teams, they found a way to claim it is too old.
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Oakland had the same thing happen with the raiders. They chose not to pay for the stadium and the team left.
Nashville...smh. This city always manages to waste money. The absolute dumbest thing that they ever did was getting rid of Opryland. It was hands down one of the best theme parks in America. My family loved it. I have great memories from going as a child. Everybody loved it. But, they shut it down and built a mall where it used to be. A mall. Malls are quickly becoming extinct. How shortsighted was that? Years later, they even admitted that it was a horrible mistake. But, it's too late. The damage is done. But, yes, Nashville, please waste some more money on a stadium that will be outdated in 15 years and you'll be unhappy with it too.
As a titans fan our fan base sucks I don’t blame the smaller capacity there’s always more visiting fans than home fans. My thing is I kinda hope this stadium doesn’t have a bad seat the third level in Nissan Stadium are really far from the action I just hope you feel on top of everything in this new stadium. Obviously the big stuff is hosting Super Bowls, Final Fours, and my hope is the SEC Football Championship the basketball tournament is in Nashville let’s get the football championship here it’s a more central location anyway with the expansion.
A lot of money to spend for the possibility of getting a Super Bowl, a Final Four, or a college championship game. Imagine the outcome if $2.1B were spent on light rail, schools, and parks.
We just built the biggest soccer stadium in the US or Canada on the fairgrounds! It ruined the Nashville flea market. I mean how many stadiums do we need?🙄
They have done absolutely NOTHING about I-24 or any other interstate downtown to help with the terrible traffic. It's truly criminal.
Yah!
Imagine if they fixed that or heck even invested that in public transit or better water infrastructure
You get what you vote for. Stadiums like this cant get built in Illinois 😂😂The Democratic governor isn't having any of it
Facts.
You hit bottle necks immediately leaving town.
What if they gulp built a light rail or subway. There is thing called mass transit that fixes traffic issues.
There should be zero public dollars to build any stadiums. These billionaires can more than afford building their own stadiums.
Nashville was better off just having the hockey team and that’s it.
they didn't become billionaires by spending their own money. if they can get others to pay for it, they will
@@Christopher_175true.
And it'll happen again in about 20 years.
but people attend the venues, except you..make it make sense...
Build a stadium and only use it for two decades, then build another one that's even smaller but costs more and demolish the original. The sports version of Orwell.
The flood damaged the foundation of the stadium they have to rebuild.
@@DCReal93 The designers and builders of the original weren't aware of the concept of a flood? In Nashville?
@@dudermcdudeface3674I think it may have been the fact that the 2010 Flood was a historic flood for the city. I'm sure they accounted for flooding in the construction, but I doubt they accounted for a never before seen historic flood.
Source: I'm a Nashville Native
They do that to keep buildings up to code. Do you want to be in a stadium made in the 50s?
@@dudermcdudeface3674 2010 was truly historic. You can still see water damage at Opry Mills. It's like how in Florida buildings are designed for hurricanes but particularly bad ones still damage things.
It’s comical and disappointing that billionaires say that taxpayers should fund stadiums as it’s their source of entertainment. Like wtf? We give you our business and our money for entertainment it’s not you who is making it for us. Respect to Ballmer and Sofi owners for putting their own money on the line. The same thing is going on in Jacksonville and buffalo. Imagine if the city spent the same money in other infrastructure developments like public transit, water, schools, etc.
Yup liberal billionaires in California can build stadiums without a hand out but republican billionaires need a hand out to build stadiums😂
Now look at Chicago teams being told no by thw governor for a new stadium. They say that 2 billion can go to schools,roads, hospitals ecr
@@ll4680 Why don't you look at that one 😂😂
@@ll4680you do know that Nashville is in one of only TWO blue counties in the state of Tennessee right? The other is Memphis….i think that says it all
Steve and Kreo had no choice. The regulations are different in California...
i love my tax money being spent to buy toys for billionaires who could pay for it themselves
Lobbying money well spent
It’s not “your” tax money. If you do a little bit of research you’d realize that the bonds issued for this stadium will be paid back with a small increase in hotel tax. Meaning it’s people coming in from out of town that pay the bill when they’re coming into town as tourists. Nothing is coming out of general funds.
Keeping a team in your city, especially when the city is trying to attract more pro sports teams and more tourism is a big deal and will benefit the area more broadly than just what the sports team will generate.
@ryand5725 It should be privately funded. A city shouldn't be paying the majority of the construction for infrastructure that doesn't directly benefit the residents like roads, libraries, schools, public transit, etc.
In LA, sports venues are privately funded like the Sofi Stadium and the recently opened Intuit Dome. Even the under construction Lucas Museum is privately funded.
And those hotel taxes could be better spent for residents instead of paying back debt to build this sports venue.
@@ryand5725keep drinking the koolaid……
@@ryand5725 Do you not know what an opportunity cost it?
$500 a ticket
$25 beer
$50 parking
Yeah....sign me up
as a lifelong Nashville native of 30 years, i think the city has become very nice and i genuinely think its an awesome and cool city, but i absolutely hate what its become.
Fk that
more $25 for hotdog/burger, craft beer be like $50
Geodis soccer stadium hot dog, bottle of water, cup of fries. $32.
With 10K less seats, it's gonna be wayyy more than $500/ticket, ticketmaster and stubhub are scamming fans just for "experiences"
Insane to think a $2.1 billion stadium will only host 8 or 9 games per year.
Also concerts and special events
@@nathanmoynihan3217 the current stadium holds a lot events though. CMA fest, concerts every other week at least, and some college games. Once finished, I see it being used even more.
It will be used year round, much like Bridgestone.
plus concerts year round and wwe and college football- basketball
It will probably have an SEC Championship or 2. Also, guaranteed the Super Bowl will be held in Nashville at least once.
Although Nashville is still growing with people moving here from places like Calif and NY,, driving up the cost of living, the majority of tax payers here, are either native to the city, or have been here for 3-4 decades… most of those natives, won’t even get to see the inside of the stadium bc they can’t afford the prices for tickets… but they will still have to pay for it. That’s my biggest complaint.
For the first few years yeah. Costs generally go back down to mean within a few years. At least, that’s what happened at allegiant and SoFi stadium
Your life doesn't matter anymore. Get with the times or find a new old Nashville
@@jaggerpirtle3766 The problem is, Nashville's mean is creeping up with the people moving here, but the longtime locals are being left behind.
@@WGAGENCY my life doesn’t matter anymore? Wow.. did you bring that attitude from Calif with you? I see “Agency” in your name. Are you a part of the building group industry that has turned houses into investments instead of homes? Trade it in every 2 yrs like a car? What’s the “WG” stand for? “Wealthy Gentrification”?? That must be it. Other peoples lives don’t matter anymore… gotta go find a “new old Nashville”….
“Natives”. 😉. Lolz
Fix the damn roads first
Production quality for a RUclips channel with 12k subs is crazy... keep making videos!!
Americans spend more money on sports stadiums than high speed railways.
High speed railways are unnecessary in the US. It works fine in little countries like Germany but the US is huge
China's got a pretty robust HSR network and it's one of the worlds largest countries 🤷♀
We can do it in the US too. It'd be safer and cheaper in the long run
@@kennethhall289 Lol this is so wrong, It would work in the densely populated parts. No one is taking a train to Fargo ND
@@kennethhall289most cities in the US are perfectly placed for high speed rail, even more-so than in Europe
@@kennethhall289As someone whose visual impairments prevent me from driving, I disagree with that entirely. I would love better and faster public transportation. But I’m just one person lol
I think it's telling that they can so easily find funding for a stadium that basically benefits the corporate owners of the Titans, but can't or wont find funding for light rail that would benefit way more of the people who live there. Nashville is one of the largest cities without a public transit rail network (this does not count commuter trains)
Or education or affordable housing
the Titans are not owned by a corporation - its Bud Adams daughter still right ?
I'm glad to see people seem to have woken up and realized billionaires don't need public tax money or handouts. Let them threaten to move the team. 90% of the time they're bluffing just to get free money
This felt like a 1 million subscribers quality video. New fan here
Socialised costs, private profits.
That's the (capitalist) American way!
I’m from Nashville- y’all mf’s need to STOP MOVING HERE BRO
I used to live on Knob Road, off of White Bridge Road could leave my door unlocked in the 1980's, do not even think about opening your door today.. They are demolishing the brick duplexes, some of which were converted into single family homes, and constructing those tally, skinny town houses. Nashville has never been known for vertical living.
This!!
amen brotha
Same. From here and the entire country decided to move here after like 2015. All NPCs who cant think for themselves so they all just came to the same city. Can't wait to get out of here. Overrated. Overpriced and now over taxed.
@@SmokyOleSee y’all later!😂😂😂
Brilliant idea, a city that is fucking oversaturated like Austin and decides to pump billions into a bread-and-circuses palace, rather than in public transit to reduce the notorious traffic congestion and improve accessibility for the bread-and-circus events that this new venue is expected to attract.
Having spent extended times in both cities, I understand the comparison but what’s going on in Nashville is much worse.
Nashville is a civic horror story.
Public transportation policy for any Texas city is simple ...more highways.
The nfl money grab is just disgusting
Player contracts getting bigger than ever. Owners lying to the public about the benefits of new stadiums to the community
The NFL has brainwashed us into thinking that every single team needs a new stadium every 10-20 years for no reason whatsoever 😂
This is why I lost any and all respect for the NFL because taxpayer get to pay for everything while the NFL get a tax write off
$3 billion for a smaller stadium with artificial turf? Well bless your hearts…
Really a domed stadium in Nashville 🤢
@@Dfromdtowndw all stadiums should have a roof IMO. All that money for a building and don’t put a roof on it… that’s just nuts
@@darylb5564 Football is meant to be played in the elements imo that's part of the sport's dna.
@@Dfromdtowndwyeah sure but then you seriously limit your ticket sales for other events. We missed out on the World Cup because Nissan Stadium is an open air dump.
@@holden5478 Maybe it was just a dump because the last world cup was held in open-air stadiums. New England's gillette stadium has shopping, dining and entertainment, lumen stadium and levi stadium are other open-air stadiums that are active year-round. Open-air venues have overwhelmingly been the more popular platforms throughout history. Domes used in places like Minnesota or Detroit are somewhat understandable. Basically it comes back to the nfl making bad decisions due to big wigs being out of touch with most fans. I think the day lambeau field becomes a dome will be the final blow for the brand.
Stopped going to downtown Nashville in 2017.
That wasn't you standing near the hawk tuah girl?
Ive never seen a country that loves to spend tax dollars to fund billionaires sports teams.
My property tax is through the roof In Davidson county! I work my ass off so these people can build their toys. 😂
I mean honestly I'm spending a lot less here than I was in Charlotte and no offense to Panthers fans but Bank of America Stadium isn't exactly nice.
Property taxes here are really low compared to most cities though 😬
Part of me is going to miss the old stadiums. I love the late season/playoff games in the cold weather and snow. It's wild to me that stadiums like the Patriots, Ravens, Giants/Jets, Steelers, Eagles are now seen as outdated. It feels like every owner just wants an indoor $2 billon mega stadium.
Because the NFL sees the path to the future is to not present the NFL as a sporting event,but more as a theme park that is generating money
365 days a year. A stadium open for 10 football games,tractor pulls, and the occasional out door concert, is not getting the return that
a stadium in use year around with an entertainment district, condos, apartments, shopping, movie theaters, resturants,bars,and night clubs,
can generate.
@TheLAGopher An entertainment district set up by a municipality around a stadium doesn't make it a them park that generates revenue year round. None of that you just said made any sense. Concerts, other shows, and sporting events is what stadiums are used for. That is how they make money. Period. Stadiums simply getting larger and more expensive doesn't change that. It's still a stadium.
NFL should fund their stadiums. The stadium does nothing for taxpayers.
There is no way the current stadium needs replacing. And I guess 30 years from now, the Titans will want yet another new stadium. It’s insane.
Follow the money - See what city council members got campaign donations from the stadium group. There you will see how the stadium got passed.
There's definitely an obsession with those High definition, Halo screens in the infrastructure across the USA currently 😂 They're so clear in person too 😭
Tennesseeans who live nowhere near Nashville should be irate, especially considering a local Council decided on this.
I lived in Nashville for over twenty years. I now live in Kauai. The state raised Kauai sales tax to fund the Honolulu light rail's financial shortcomings. I may use the light rail, perhaps once in my life as I do not visit Honolulu. I know how the residents of Tennessee feel.
So far, all studies have shown that any public money used to fund these stadiums for billionaires never gives the rate of return that allows the municipalities to recover to break even.
I believe it
Public money is paying for the stadium and the taxpayer. Don’t get nothing out of it with nothing to show for it.
We have teachers all over the US quitting and starting an only fans channel because they can’t live on $50 grand a year. But instead of make sure we pay THE FRICKEN person that has the 3 most important influence on our children’s lives we give money to billionaires for new stadiums. No wonder our kids struggle in life.
Why can't they live on 50 grand a year? I do comfortably. And I live an hour east of Nashville. So what is their excuse?
Amen
Billionaires aren't getting a new stadium, the city of Nashville is...
Because you are responsible with your money, and they aren’t
Property taxes pay for schools. You want better schools pay more in property taxes. The funds to build the stadium come from the team, the state of Tennessee, personal seat license sales, taxes collected at the stadium and a new 1% hotel/motel tax.
My daughter lives in Nashville. The traffic there and secondary roads are awful.
As a Titans fan I am pissed it only holds 60,000 seats. What a joke
Why exactly?
every new stadium is being built small...get used to it
@@SaxmanR3that’s not a good thing
@@wittybanter96 means ticket prices go up and less fans at the games means the atmospheres aren't as good
That was really surprising, especially with the chart that showed the population growth.
I’ve visited. The stadium is fine. It’s not like they’re winning a super bowl any time soon. Win one and get your new stadium. It’s a negotiation, right?
Looking forward to the Oklahoma Titans.
I live in Middle Tennessee. I want to put out that Bob Kraft paid for the Patriots stadium out of his own pocket.
How much tourism does Foxborough get? How often does Gillette stadium host anything other than patriots games?
Disgusting that billionaire owners arent willing to part with their own funds and gouge the taxpayer, then charge outrageous ticket prices!!
The owner actually liquidated some of her assets and did put up money.
@@BrotherfromTNso if they can’t afford the whole thing then why do it? Sofi owner paid for his and so did clippers owner
Don't blame the owners. Blame the mayor and city council that approved it.
@@BrotherfromTN clippers owner and the rams owner both for theirs she doesn’t need the publics money
I think if you look at history - you won't see any public funding of stadiums for sports teams - before - Ronnie Raygun - told everyone that it is all the governments fault - and just leave it to him - he will let rich people not pay taxes - and they will shower the rest of us peasants with their benevolence.
The mere fact that the new stadium has LESS seating than the old one is unforgivable that should never be the case with a new stadium.
There was always discussion that the current site of the existing stadium would be turned into a Riverfront Park. As well, some last-minute design changes has increased the total cost of the stadium to $2.2B, with the additional $.1B absorbed by the Titans.
LA has a long history of not providing public financing for these types of structures.
Not only is the Intuit Dome privately funded, but so was the $5.5 billion Sofi Stadium. The under construction George Lucas Museum is also privately funded.
And those owners had the money and will own the facilities. Miss Amy isn’t as rich as you may think, plus it’s the city that will own the stadium not the titans. The stadium is going to be used for all kinds of events, not just football. Also the taxpayers are not paying for this stadium if you’d pay attention, it’s being paid for by the tourists. Even if the taxpayers did pay for it, it wouldn’t matter, cause they would be spending nearly the same for the upkeep of the current stadium.
Cost of living out there is outrageous regardless of their stadiums being funded privately.
Yeah, because LA is the second largest market in the country. What are LA teams going to do? Tell the city they're going to leave? Here in Indianapolis, when taxpayers funded the Colts stadium, it was because we were truly fearful they might leave Indy.
The builder of sofi stadium, Stan Kroenke, threatened st Louis that he will leave if the city won’t agree to his stadium deal. The city give a good proposal and he still left. Fuck that guy.
@@JonathanHalliday81tourists are being forced to pay for something they’re not using lmao. It’s still a scam
PSL cost are outrageous!! 25 to 50K for 50 yard line.
The lack of transit and infrastructure in This city is the worst. I'm quite upset that they are prioritizing this instead.
Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, GA is starting a new trend for new stadiums around the USA
Sofi in LA did that. I was like, "$2 billion for a stadium in LA, that makes sense." Then they started charging that everywhere. They are GREEDY.
As an Australian, it's amazing how many American stadiums have the concerns of 'bUt wHeReS tHe pArKiNg'. Like, have y'all never heard of trains lmao? We have 80,000 seat stadiums with ZERO parking - you just get jump on the train and go wherever you need to go. No traffic, no hassles.
What’s particularly troubling is the apparent lack of foresight regarding parking infrastructure and public transportation to and from the stadium. One of the most unsightly aspects of stadium design in the United States is the juxtaposition of a strikingly beautiful stadium against the backdrop of a sprawling, unattractive parking lot.
I supervise construction in Nashville, and my company does work for the company that is building the new Nissan stadium. I assume we will be doing work in there. Pretty damn cool.
Good informative video, thanks!
As with the plans considered for other NFL venues like KC, the design caters to the wealthy and ultra wealthy crowd with premium entertainment levels and suites. Leaving the larger and dedicated average fan base out in the cold to watch on TV. Which has its own growing cost challenges due to the advent of paid streaming services.
There is one key detail that needs to be mentioned. The titans deal created the opportunity for the city to bid out adjacent parcels of land for new development as well. Metro has awarded the initial 30 acres already and will begin receiving ground lease payments, substantially increased property tax revenue, and immeasurable economic benefit from that deal. The city also is requiring a certain number of affordable housing units be built around the stadium and that number totals more than 700 in just the initial 30 acres.
Another issue are those clauses that many NFL teams have with their stadium leases stating to one degree to another that their current stadium must be in the top tier of NFL stadiums otherwise the team can break the lease and move their team to a city willing to fund a new state of the art stadium for them (e.g Rams to LA)
Another thing is that top tier clause was put in place in the 90s when the NFL was undergoing expansion into Jacksonville,and Carolina.
But also a relocation boom of NFL teams moving to St.Louis,Nashville, back to Oakland, and into Baltimore (requiring the NFL to expand
back into Cleveland)
Cities desperate to get teams,and keep teams signed off on "top tier" clauses.
What they didn't see coming was the rise of "Destination" NFL stadiums that were not marketed as hallowed grounds for pro football
but as lavis sports meccas where the building itself, is the attraction.
Here in LA we said no to public funding of these billionaire stadiums. Both Intuit and Sofi Stadiums were privately funded.
WalMart and Microsoft $$.
This does absolutely nothing to improve the daily life of a Nashville citizen, in fact, it will add to the stress of commuting and makes the parking situation even worse. It's only good for the big business guys and the state of TN, who do not have the best interest of Tennesseans in mind
Billionaire have regular citizens pay for stadium merchandise 10 dollar hot dogs 12 dollar beers ect this is insane we the people need to wake up to this kind of stuff
This would be cool if the Titans had fans.
They have at least 60,000🤣
And I'm one of them
Warriors - Chase Center Arena, was fully privately funded by the Warriors as well. They didn't ask a dime for the 1.4bill in public funding. They were the 1st professional team ever to do that.
Even if the stadium makes money for the city, the people won't see any of it. It will probably just raise prices in the area because "it's a new stadium".
I’m in Jacksonville and these comments are hilarious; they’re very similar to the comments Jacksonville residents were making. I say step into the future; this is going to be awesome.
Public funds for a stadium and not an NHS....thord world america
There's always enough money for the rich and powerful. Everyone else has to provide to the 1% and fend for themselves.
Economy can’t be that bad to shell out a cool 2 billion .
You think the public should give 2 billion dollars to a billionaire?
I’m tired of funding these places with my tax money and never being able to go to them!!
There’s nothing like outdoors football. Too many indoor NFL stadiums. The weather conditions makes the game more unique.
As an upper deck PSL holder since the beginning, I wouldn't mind being indoors for once. I burn up August - early October and freeze in the winter, not to mention getting soaked in the rain. I still go to the games even in the extremes, but it would be nice to not have to deal with it.
@@snowcat8971 I see. Are you dressed appropriately for the weather conditions and do you have sunscreen on? By your statement I can tell you are not a outdoor person.
@@goat7844 Yes, I am. And I have been going to these games as a PSL holder since the beginning in 1999. How many games do you go to?
@@snowcat8971 I’m from South Mississippi. It’s way more humid and hotter down here. I attended many games at Ole Miss Miss State and USM. I only attended 4 Tennessee Titan games. I have family in Nashville Tennessee. The weather is more pleasant than south Mississippi.
Nashville can afford it as it's basically recession proof, with the surrounding area full of big money
9''000 less seats, roof in a city that doesn't have snow, artificial turf, and a donut design... Nope...!
The current stadium looks way nicer. Keep it!!!
Yeah you’ve never been to the current stadium have you?
You had me at wrestlemania
It would not be big enough to host the Super Bowl.
Yes it would. That “70,000” rule has been broken several times
@@alpacain1075 if temporary seating can be added. Rarely done and still 70K used as minimum seating guide
I see some saying Alliegant Stadium in Vegas only sits 5,000 more at 65,000. What they don't know it expanse to 72,000 for Superbowl or other big events. It sits 75,000 for concerts
I never heard how much the demolition would cost
The traffic is already horrendous here. Now its going to get even worse
Isn’t it so nice we have pay the team’s owners to exploit us!
Traffic is one thing, but the conditions of some of the roads/interstates is downright dangerous. Potholes are everywhere, and have been forever. Seeing vehicles on the side of the road with flat tires or damage due to hitting a pothole is a common sight. Lord help you if you're on a motorcycle. But hey, we're getting a new Stadium!
Hi, just an FYI ... (@2:17) SoFi Stadium is in INGLEWOOD not ENGLEWOOD.
I refuse to even drive downtown anymore until they fix the roads.
Spring Hill resident here--I've been downtown twice in 12 years. All those crowds are a turn off.
I hate that as a Nashville area tax payer, that I will on the hook for the next 25 years if they want to upgrade that new stadium.
10k seats removed .. get ready for those ticket prices to soar
There is a story about the PSL license prices being tripled or quadrupled for the new stadium, the actual ticket to get in the gate will be even more expensive.
You gotta make room for the premium box seats and private lounge areas. Can't have the everyday fan have any basic luxuries like extra seating to view the game.
nice content.
This would be so nice! Have you seen the new Browns stadium design?! Insane.
I love where the ownership hires a firm to evaluate the stadium and they amazingly found that it would
Be cost effective for the state to build a new stadium.
The visible foundation cracking was a big part, but the huge concerts and other large events the city has is more incentive to build a domed smatadoum.
What a HUGE WIN for the stiffed taxpayers.......
I think people are just now realizing we don’t need billion dollar stadiums for every sports team
Looks like a top golf
When "i`m playing in cleveland / tenessee in winter / kansas" morfs to: "i`m playing in a nice warm stadium with a roof and heated turf".
It looks pretty for sure
Did this project have a direct vote on a ballet? Something of this magnitude should not be decided by a council (even though the council is elected).
One not w have is the area beside the new stadium won’t be a parking lot. The city is making a strong push to redevelop the entire east bank of the river. It will park space or mixed use development
I'm not a TN local, but I'm aware that the state is car-centric. My ideal version of Nashville would be public transit, with the land next door being turned into a major transit center. I've been there before and the pedestrian bridge to me seems like the perfect beginning piece of transit accessibility.
It literally looks like a boring office building from the outside. So I guess that fits all of the new buildings in Nashville.
Its the dome that Taylor, Beyonce, and Garth built. The use of existing Nissan stadium as a concert venue(especially during CMA fest) is the reason it is being replaced. What does the weather in Nashville do during the evening in June?? Thunderstorms. So many concerts have been delayed or canceled at the existing outdoor stadium, it usually happens once or twice a year. Thus the dome.
Everywhere has thunderstorms, LOL.
I went to CMA fest and before we arrived, it poured down rain. The seats were wet and it started to sprinkle. I’m glad that the new stadium adds a dome.
@@breadstick7575 Have you ever gone to an outdoor event before? This is pathetic.
Imagine you are trying to buy a house and itwas built in 1999. You would say it is pretty new. But when it comes to sport teams, they found a way to claim it is too old.
Oakland had the same thing happen with the raiders. They chose not to pay for the stadium and the team left.
These new stadiums with smaller capacities are so dumb.
I like the new stadium. But man.. parking was already rough before yall removed the parking lot.. now it’s gonna be atrocious
meanwhile the Bills new stadium was $1.7B.
And the hood is just a few hundred feet away.
I love it.🎩🎱
fuck this state, can’t believe this is how tax money is being used.
There is no state income tax in Tennessee.
Better using it on this than some proxy war
I miss the old days when it was called the Colosseum. That was cool.
Nashville...smh. This city always manages to waste money. The absolute dumbest thing that they ever did was getting rid of Opryland. It was hands down one of the best theme parks in America. My family loved it. I have great memories from going as a child. Everybody loved it. But, they shut it down and built a mall where it used to be. A mall. Malls are quickly becoming extinct. How shortsighted was that? Years later, they even admitted that it was a horrible mistake. But, it's too late. The damage is done. But, yes, Nashville, please waste some more money on a stadium that will be outdated in 15 years and you'll be unhappy with it too.
Yeah, Goodness!
As a titans fan our fan base sucks I don’t blame the smaller capacity there’s always more visiting fans than home fans. My thing is I kinda hope this stadium doesn’t have a bad seat the third level in Nissan Stadium are really far from the action I just hope you feel on top of everything in this new stadium. Obviously the big stuff is hosting Super Bowls, Final Fours, and my hope is the SEC Football Championship the basketball tournament is in Nashville let’s get the football championship here it’s a more central location anyway with the expansion.
Traffic already fucked up 🤔
A lot of money to spend for the possibility of getting a Super Bowl, a Final Four, or a college championship game. Imagine the outcome if $2.1B were spent on light rail, schools, and parks.
We just built the biggest soccer stadium in the US or Canada on the fairgrounds! It ruined the Nashville flea market. I mean how many stadiums do we need?🙄
A stadium does not need a parking lot it need a tram station and a metro station