@@Asgar1205 Johnathan basically has access to an entire collection that Gun Jesus could lose himself in for months. They've worked together a fair few times in the past and do reference each other quite often.
@@jonathanferguson1211 we'll be back when you're fully open too, fancy trying the crossbow shooting and seeing what other demonstrations are on. Ps, love the GameSpot videos too
@@matt0spindt Thank you! It's pretty good for visitors at the moment to be honest; you book a free entrance slot and you can have a whole gallery to yourself at times. But there will be more in terms of demos, events etc as restrictions ease.
Thanks Jonathan for showing us this rare light machine gun! To my knowledge there's not a single video of even the more common the Solothurn S2-200/ MG30 being fired.
aah, thats the reason for the name. i am from switzerland and lived more then 10 years near solothurn. lovely small medieval town, like most cities in switzerland, worth checking out on gogle earth ;) and thank you Jonathan fot your great work! what about a partnership with forgotten weapons? it hurts to see so little subs, you deserve so much more!
The magazine fed version of this found in Battlefield 5 is my favourite automatic weapon in the game. Very manageable recoil, high fire rate, fast reloads, good sights.
@@snowflakemelter1172 Which he clearly identified it as, so what? Just because you enjoy playing with marbles and listening to sea shantys doesn't prohibit him from having fun with a modern entertainment medium, friendo ;)
The pronunciation of Einzelfeuer and Dauerfeuer was actually pretty good. Always happy to see weapons with German and Austrian history on here. Tolles Video :D
Hi Jonathan! I have been waiting for you guys to publish a video! I wanted to say thank you for my signed copy of thornycroft to SA80! It’s a really great book and is now my most prized possession. I would recommend it to anybody interested in firearms.
I never knew this machinegun existed. I thought this was a Solothurn S2-200, never even heard of a belt fed version being made. Wonder who used it and what caliber. I know the Hungarians are the ones that used the S2-200 the most and firing their own 8×56mmR bullet but it was magazine fed.
A lot of these interwar guns were just beautiful, made of high quality materials with a lot of milled components. When the pressures of war time are applied, guns become more utilitarian, being designed for cheapness and ease of manufacture. The Thompson sub machine gun exemplifies this. Compare a gorgeous 1921 example to a WWII A1 variant, chalk and cheese. Great video, thank you! A lot of these ultra rare guns I am not familiar with, and would love to learn more...
The Steyr-Solothurn S2-100 or Austrian M30 or Hungarian 31M, in calibre 8mmS M30 ( 8x56R), was widely used by both Austra and Hungary, and also ( late30s) by Bulgaria. DocAV
Lovely stuff, must've seemed quite futuristic in its day, though thinking on it it still does with Imperial Stormtroopers wandering around with similar looking guns in the movies. As an aside what sort of rate of fire did it have?
Been rewatching Daredevil (and therefore Punisher). Would love you to do a “guns of tv shows” series as Punisher seems to like to add all sorts of stuff to his guns, whether it’s a shotgun or an AR-15 variant.
fyi on German pronunciations: Einzelfeuer, the German Ei is pronounced like the english letter i or for example like the i in "Line" or "Diner", z is pronounced like ts, not like a single s In Dauerfeuer, the au is pronounced like the ow in "Down" or the ou in "Couch" Interestingly, you pronounced the "feuer" about right, even though we don't put as much emphasis on the oi.
My guess is either a donation/purchace from a private collection or it was siezed by the government during the occupation of Germany and then given to the Royal collection once army R&D was done with it.
@@jmurphy2169 It was gifted in 2005 by MoD as part of the Pattern Room collection. I haven't had time to check the paper files but I suspect its acquisition by the PR pre-dated the records and it was likely acquired by MoD as 'war booty'.
@@jonathanferguson1211 fascinating to ponder on such a rare item being lifted from a warehouse alongside a load of other war material by some corporal with a set of orders and no idea what he was handling.
Nifty. Does your institution have one of the Solothurn anti-tank rifles as well? I think there are a few more of those floating around than these, but still, a pretty uncommon beast nowadays.
Probably access to laboratories and arsenal's after the war. Presume also from donations through the years with collections being given in order to avoid problems to the heirs.
Beautiful video, congratulations🙂👍 It is the first time I see this version of the MG 30. In what year has it been perfected and available for series production? Thanks for your kind reply🙂
Jonathan, could you show the Polish Chauchat in 8mm Mauser (if there is even such a thing). I have saw it mentioned many times in English language articles but never came over a single piece of information about such a conversion in Polish. Apparently, a specimen is kept at the Royal Armouries but currently I feel this whole Polish 8mm Mauser Chauchat is more of a myth/legend.
The "8mm" Chauchat not mythological. But it is rare as most were lost during WW2. In the mid-1920s Poland had about 12,000 Chauchats, in the original 8x50mmR calibre designated the RZM wz 15. About half of them were converted to 7.92x57mm, as the RZM wz 15/27. It was replaced by the BAR, but it was still a reserve weapon in 1939
@@kevinoliver3083Mate, I'm asking for a source. A photo of one or a document in Polish about such a thing existing. A comment in the online space claiming it had doesn't give me much. As I've mentioned ealier I couldn't find a single piece of information in Polish; only in English which leads me to this conclusion of it not existing
@@lordDenis16 I don't have a Polish source (I couldn't read one anyway. But in the Wehrmachts list of Fremdgerät (foreign equipment) the Polish Chauchat conversions are listed as Leichtes Maschinengewehr 154/1(p) and 154/2(p). So the Germans thought they existed.
A completly unrelated question that cropped up on me and where i believe that you could have insight: "intelligent" weapons (such as timed grenade launchers for attacking people behind cover etc.) were always deemed to bulky/heavy etc. in the end (due to computr systems etc.). Now could that change when we can disconnect the physical part and the computation part (sort of like drones...?). Is there any major developer that is looking into this? Like enhanced optical sight using AugmentedReaity? I remember that the isrealies and the us had programs for "enhancing" combat capabilities....but i sort of never heard of it again (execpt for drones, but thats not what i'm talking about)
I love that your name is HEAT, because I instantly imagined some Germans doing the infamous HEAT bank shootout armed with pre WW2 weapons and possibly these weird WW1 trench armour plates
On topic of germans inventing the concept of universal machinegun - wasn't Lewis used on aircraft(as both main armament and in turrets), vehicles and on a tripod? So it might not have been called one as the name in classification wasn't yet there, but it certainly does fit. Just like BAR and Fedorov coming out before Battle Rifle, Assault Rifle and so on were terms. P.S.: if some bastard will try to misread my comment as me claiming that BAR is an AR(while ignoring the rest including the context), I will become superstitious just so that I can curse you for 12 generations.
Definitions are always tricky, but most would agree that a GPMG needs to be belt-fed. There were tripod mounts for both the Lewis and the Bren, but no-one regards these as GPMGs. However you cut it, the MG 34 was the first issued MG to be *designed* for universal issue.
What Nambu? The pistol or MG? Because I have fired the Type 99 Nambu MG, and it is a fucking beast! By far the most effective infantry weapon the Imperial Japanese Army had. 800 rounds per minute, 30 round magazines, ability to equip a telescopic sight, easy deployable bipod and good quality iron sights makes the thing an absolute pleasure to fire. The thing absolutely rips.
We appreciate your concern. However, you really should visit the UK, preferably on a Friday or Saturday night, to realise why it wouldn't be the best idea to give us access to firearms. We really aren't the most pleasant or sensible of people once we've had our standard required intake of 9 pints+ of looney juice. It'd be like The Purge, only messier and with more vomit.
@@MsJackcool69 Oh I know. I just don't always want to go into explaining the legislation around shotguns, target pistols, or what I'm interested in, which are black powder firearms), let alone Section 5 licenses. The fundamental trick in the UK is to understand that "personal defence" is not a justification, except in VERY specific circumstances which few of us will ever meet, but other perfectly fine and legal justifications are available.
Good day good Sir: a suggestion to Royal Armouries :) Get a wireless microphone like many youtubers (like forgottenweapons) and get rid of that echoing sound.
We don't really know - very little is known about this. But certainly very few can have been made and there are no signs of it entering true mass production.
Jonathan, I have just received a signed copy of your book from Headstamp. It's magnificent! Love it. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!
Its the nicest book i own. Even my wife said its nice, then growned when i told her what it was about!!
@@jonathanferguson1211 Him commenting is rather wholesome, nice!
@@jonathanferguson1211 could you please review soldier of fortune 1 guns? They're wacky and weird
Still waiting for Mine ! oh it's like Christmas - when I was 6 .
Indeed that’s a cool gun it’s the first time i Heard about it S3-200
indeed it is
I have never in my life thought that forgotten weapons would've have a competitor
@Dan Didnot I don't see them as competitors, i think of them as colleagues!
@@Asgar1205 Johnathan basically has access to an entire collection that Gun Jesus could lose himself in for months. They've worked together a fair few times in the past and do reference each other quite often.
We visited the museum last Saturday as our first family outing since lockdown. Really interesting day out and thoroughly enjoyed by all of us!
Great stuff Matthew! Thanks for visiting.
@@jonathanferguson1211 we'll be back when you're fully open too, fancy trying the crossbow shooting and seeing what other demonstrations are on. Ps, love the GameSpot videos too
@@matt0spindt Thank you! It's pretty good for visitors at the moment to be honest; you book a free entrance slot and you can have a whole gallery to yourself at times. But there will be more in terms of demos, events etc as restrictions ease.
please make a video on the Solothurn S2-200. It is a very rare lmg and I think even forgotten weapons has never gotten their hands on one.
Thanks Jonathan for showing us this rare light machine gun! To my knowledge there's not a single video of even the more common the Solothurn S2-200/ MG30 being fired.
Jonathan we love you bro never stop doing what you're doing! You're the man and I love your passion.
aah, thats the reason for the name. i am from switzerland and lived more then 10 years near solothurn. lovely small medieval town, like most cities in switzerland, worth checking out on gogle earth ;)
and thank you Jonathan fot your great work! what about a partnership with forgotten weapons? it hurts to see so little subs, you deserve so much more!
The magazine fed version of this found in Battlefield 5 is my favourite automatic weapon in the game. Very manageable recoil, high fire rate, fast reloads, good sights.
It's a game not reality.
@@snowflakemelter1172 Which he clearly identified it as, so what? Just because you enjoy playing with marbles and listening to sea shantys doesn't prohibit him from having fun with a modern entertainment medium, friendo ;)
@@CalamityCain stop arguing just for the sake of it.
@@snowflakemelter1172 Sure, buddy.
@@snowflakemelter1172 What the fuck, man
I find the evolution of the MG42 and its many precursors really interesting
In depth study of Solothurn mechanicals? YES please, Johnathan
The pronunciation of Einzelfeuer and Dauerfeuer was actually pretty good. Always happy to see weapons with German and Austrian history on here. Tolles Video :D
Oinselfeuer and Deuerfeuer... well at least we know what he wanted to say. :D
I can't wait to go back to the Armouries, I was there back in 2011. I'm lucky enough to have a lot of cousins in Leeds.
It's really nice to see people back in the galleries again :)
Great video! I REALLY hope this and the Gamespot series continues even though restrictions at the Armoury are lifting!
Do more stories like this, the guns are cool but what’s even better is when we hear where they were used and what they were made for
Will be off to Leeds in next few week, been too long since last time I was at the armouries
It's FG42...but that shroud....I got it, FG34!
I haven't encountered the expression "wheeze" since the last time I read P.G. Wodehouse.
Hi Jonathan! I have been waiting for you guys to publish a video! I wanted to say thank you for my signed copy of thornycroft to SA80! It’s a really great book and is now my most prized possession. I would recommend it to anybody interested in firearms.
Well that's very kind of you to say Jacob, I'm really glad you're enjoying it :)
Never been into firearms but Jonathan makes it sound so interesting, I could probably watch him talk about anything
I never knew this machinegun existed. I thought this was a Solothurn S2-200, never even heard of a belt fed version being made. Wonder who used it and what caliber. I know the Hungarians are the ones that used the S2-200 the most and firing their own 8×56mmR bullet but it was magazine fed.
A lot of these interwar guns were just beautiful, made of high quality materials with a lot of milled components. When the pressures of war time are applied, guns become more utilitarian, being designed for cheapness and ease of manufacture. The Thompson sub machine gun exemplifies this. Compare a gorgeous 1921 example to a WWII A1 variant, chalk and cheese.
Great video, thank you! A lot of these ultra rare guns I am not familiar with, and would love to learn more...
Fascinating
You can tell he loves holding the gun.
Ian posted a rare machine gun too some hours ago. Is this becoming an interesting competition?
They are already working together
@@mats7492 or are they……..
@@roosterbooster6238 😂👍
Nope. This was in a list drawn up months ago :)
If it is, we are all winners.
Congrats on opening again!
Thanks for bringing a wonderfully rare machine gun to the public knowledge!
The Steyr-Solothurn S2-100 or Austrian M30 or Hungarian 31M, in calibre 8mmS M30 ( 8x56R), was widely used by both Austra and Hungary, and also ( late30s) by Bulgaria.
DocAV
Great video! I would love to se a series of videos about this family of machine guns.
I used this light machine gun a lot in Battlefield V, for such a large weapon design. It has a pretty low capacity magazine.
The S2-200 is a weird intermediate automatic rifle/LMG in BFV.
People argue it's the worst MMG in the game but it's my favourite due to its high mobility and stability, it's a niche I guess
Personally the '34 was the gold standard even to this day.
You really need to use that table behind you..😂
Mg 34 is the semi auto machine gun. Such tight tolerance anything stops it 😁😂
@@ukteaboy Clearances, not tolerances.
Actually that was a well made pronunciation of "Dauerfeuer". As native German I think I can judge that well.
Lovely stuff, must've seemed quite futuristic in its day, though thinking on it it still does with Imperial Stormtroopers wandering around with similar looking guns in the movies.
As an aside what sort of rate of fire did it have?
Unclear. Sources claim 700-800 rpm for the S2-200, so this ought to be similar.
@@jonathanferguson1211 Thanks for the answer, interesting to try & figure out when their doctrine for high RPM started.
@@jonathanferguson1211 btw this gun is featured in battlefield V in its mag fed configuration
@@mallardofmodernia8092 Yep. I stopped playing before it was added though.
Jonathan, Yer a legend in the eyes of those that live on the battlefield
Been rewatching Daredevil (and therefore Punisher). Would love you to do a “guns of tv shows” series as Punisher seems to like to add all sorts of stuff to his guns, whether it’s a shotgun or an AR-15 variant.
We need a "silly things they do in films that look cool but are actually really silly" series.
It would be cool for him to start a series where he reviews the rarest guns the museum has ending with the rarest
I don't know if this is on purpose but it really reminds me of some of the weapons from star wars especially the stock of it
The Star Wars DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle that stormtroopers were often seen with is based on the MG34.
It's like Gamespot, but without the games!
yes!
I got that gun in a game and passed the last week searching without success about it. Them out of nowhere your video comes from the sky 😆
Found something similar to this gun in a Japanese demil gunshop. Didn't know if it was a S3 model should have checked. Maybe a S2...
aka SAW I think.. Squad Automatic Weapon.
fyi on German pronunciations: Einzelfeuer, the German Ei is pronounced like the english letter i or for example like the i in "Line" or "Diner", z is pronounced like ts, not like a single s
In Dauerfeuer, the au is pronounced like the ow in "Down" or the ou in "Couch"
Interestingly, you pronounced the "feuer" about right, even though we don't put as much emphasis on the oi.
How were these firearms obtained? In particular the S3.
🇬🇧 we probably stole it. We're like that.
My guess is either a donation/purchace from a private collection or it was siezed by the government during the occupation of Germany and then given to the Royal collection once army R&D was done with it.
@@julianshepherd2038 Such negativity lol.
@@jmurphy2169 It was gifted in 2005 by MoD as part of the Pattern Room collection. I haven't had time to check the paper files but I suspect its acquisition by the PR pre-dated the records and it was likely acquired by MoD as 'war booty'.
@@jonathanferguson1211 fascinating to ponder on such a rare item being lifted from a warehouse alongside a load of other war material by some corporal with a set of orders and no idea what he was handling.
Nifty. Does your institution have one of the Solothurn anti-tank rifles as well? I think there are a few more of those floating around than these, but still, a pretty uncommon beast nowadays.
Cool
Solothurn is Rheinmetall. Did not know that, does RA have other weapons like this (secret rearmament) to talk about?
As an aviation geek I would be very interested to see you do an MG 15 video.
I’d be interested to find out more about how exactly the Royal Armouries is able to acquire such rare foreign weapons?
Probably access to laboratories and arsenal's after the war.
Presume also from donations through the years with collections being given in order to avoid problems to the heirs.
Beautiful video, congratulations🙂👍 It is the first time I see this version of the MG 30. In what year has it been perfected and available for series production? Thanks for your kind reply🙂
Who else had imagine Jonathan and Gun Jesus in the same video??
Disassemble!!!!!!
so sad it was not disassembled or an explanation how the quick change barrel works
It looks very much like a MG-34
Jonathan, could you show the Polish Chauchat in 8mm Mauser (if there is even such a thing). I have saw it mentioned many times in English language articles but never came over a single piece of information about such a conversion in Polish. Apparently, a specimen is kept at the Royal Armouries but currently I feel this whole Polish 8mm Mauser Chauchat is more of a myth/legend.
collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-278887.html
The "8mm" Chauchat not mythological. But it is rare as most were lost during WW2.
In the mid-1920s Poland had about 12,000 Chauchats, in the original 8x50mmR calibre designated the RZM wz 15. About half of them were converted to 7.92x57mm, as the RZM wz 15/27. It was replaced by the BAR, but it was still a reserve weapon in 1939
@@kevinoliver3083Mate, I'm asking for a source. A photo of one or a document in Polish about such a thing existing. A comment in the online space claiming it had doesn't give me much.
As I've mentioned ealier I couldn't find a single piece of information in Polish; only in English which leads me to this conclusion of it not existing
@@kevinoliver3083but granted I should have added "8mm mauser"
@@lordDenis16 I don't have a Polish source (I couldn't read one anyway.
But in the Wehrmachts list of Fremdgerät (foreign equipment) the Polish Chauchat conversions are listed as Leichtes Maschinengewehr 154/1(p) and 154/2(p). So the Germans thought they existed.
Any chance of doing a video with the STK Ultimax?
A completly unrelated question that cropped up on me and where i believe that you could have insight: "intelligent" weapons (such as timed grenade launchers for attacking people behind cover etc.) were always deemed to bulky/heavy etc. in the end (due to computr systems etc.). Now could that change when we can disconnect the physical part and the computation part (sort of like drones...?).
Is there any major developer that is looking into this? Like enhanced optical sight using AugmentedReaity? I remember that the isrealies and the us had programs for "enhancing" combat capabilities....but i sort of never heard of it again (execpt for drones, but thats not what i'm talking about)
That is a very angry pipe
If a weapon could be described as sexy this one certainly does. It looks menacing and wouldn't look out of place on today's battlefield.
I wonder are all the Guns,Rifles etc. you have in the Armoury still functional ? Asking for a Friend . xP
I love that your name is HEAT, because I instantly imagined some Germans doing the infamous HEAT bank shootout armed with pre WW2 weapons and possibly these weird WW1 trench armour plates
Hey, Mr. Jonathon, you mind if I pay you visit sometime in 3-4 years at Royal Armories? I got plans!
My guest today is Jonathan, a man who talks in a very roundabout way. Jonathan, good evening .......
Feeling weak? Eat one box of Weetabix, and then complete 3 sets of 8 reps of curls, of this machine gun.
John does your back hurt from carrying gamespots youtube?
On topic of germans inventing the concept of universal machinegun - wasn't Lewis used on aircraft(as both main armament and in turrets), vehicles and on a tripod? So it might not have been called one as the name in classification wasn't yet there, but it certainly does fit. Just like BAR and Fedorov coming out before Battle Rifle, Assault Rifle and so on were terms.
P.S.: if some bastard will try to misread my comment as me claiming that BAR is an AR(while ignoring the rest including the context), I will become superstitious just so that I can curse you for 12 generations.
Definitions are always tricky, but most would agree that a GPMG needs to be belt-fed. There were tripod mounts for both the Lewis and the Bren, but no-one regards these as GPMGs. However you cut it, the MG 34 was the first issued MG to be *designed* for universal issue.
Love the MG34. Now I've seen its parent.
Everyone:how did you get a serial no. 2 1932 German machine gun?
UK:😬
wasen't the MG 34 in use all the way to 1945 ( from 1942 to 1945 in tanks and and vehicels only )
It was.
Jonathan, Can I have your job, please?
Nope. No hard feelings I hope :)
@@jonathanferguson1211 If you ever need a deputy....
Battlefield V players: "nice...."
if Ian is gun jesus your gun god
A little pointer, show the weapons more in you your video.
Great video but would be better with some background music
Sure - AC/DC?
@@Simon_Nonymous silence is a bit awkward
@@madisntit6547 WHAT?!
@@madisntit6547 My favourite. :)
Germany hasn't started WW1, so the implication "to start another war" is not correct.
They didn't start the second one either.
Jonathon, which of your colleagues do we need to have a quiet chat with about "background noise"?
Well technically a nambu that can fire a full mag without exploding is the rarest gun in the world
What Nambu? The pistol or MG? Because I have fired the Type 99 Nambu MG, and it is a fucking beast! By far the most effective infantry weapon the Imperial Japanese Army had. 800 rounds per minute, 30 round magazines, ability to equip a telescopic sight, easy deployable bipod and good quality iron sights makes the thing an absolute pleasure to fire. The thing absolutely rips.
nah, a Zip-22 that can run flawlessly through a few mags is the rarest
i mean the shitty nambu po8 copy
@@classified9583 bruh both the Type 94 and the Type 14 Nambu are perfectly field-able service pistols you fudd...
I love how you guys have all those weapons in the armory but your citizens have heavy restrictions on what they can lol
We appreciate your concern.
However, you really should visit the UK, preferably on a Friday or Saturday night, to realise why it wouldn't be the best idea to give us access to firearms.
We really aren't the most pleasant or sensible of people once we've had our standard required intake of 9 pints+ of looney juice.
It'd be like The Purge, only messier and with more vomit.
@@peterclarke7240 We do have access to firearms. You just have to jump through hoops to get your certificate.
@@MsJackcool69 Oh I know.
I just don't always want to go into explaining the legislation around shotguns, target pistols, or what I'm interested in, which are black powder firearms), let alone Section 5 licenses.
The fundamental trick in the UK is to understand that "personal defence" is not a justification, except in VERY specific circumstances which few of us will ever meet, but other perfectly fine and legal justifications are available.
Good day good Sir: a suggestion to Royal Armouries :)
Get a wireless microphone like many youtubers (like forgottenweapons) and get rid of that echoing sound.
Why is it so rare? Failure, low production, what?
Pretty sure these were mostly experimental, and very few (if any apart from this one) copies survived after the war
Jon suggested it was from around 1932, not too long before the MG 34 and when Germany began to more openly disregard the Versailles treaty
We don't really know - very little is known about this. But certainly very few can have been made and there are no signs of it entering true mass production.
That's a rebel heavy blaster quit playing
If I give you some money do you promise to get a haircut?
Good content but the audio is poor. Please buy a decent mic, even a £50 Rode lavaliere makes a huge difference.
It would have been nice if you had actually shown us the guns operation rather than cradle it in your hands as if it were a newborn baby.
If you really want the workings properly explained let Gun Jesus at it.
Just yell shut the hell up next time lol...
Why you are not choosen to be gun jesus?