Maybe you could talk about the phrase "transwomen are women". It irks me because it means absolutely nothing. Do they mean we should respect people who don't present in traditional gender role characters and call them preferred pronouns? Do they mean All women are trans women? Do they mean we have to allow transwomen into all cis women spaces? Because i find the later distructive
Like you had mentioned, I think the distinction between biological sex and gender are becoming too blurred. Like you said in regards to missing persons cases, this can matter so much. Health wise too, such as being aware of what predisposition we have to illness and disease based on biological sex. Overall, trans people and other gendered or non binary people do not bother me or give my any qualms. What confuses me though is how we’re taking gender norms and turning them into some innate spiritual thing. Like when people transition, I’ve seen so many people just adopt stereotypical norms to be “womanly” or something. And it’s confusing because, we created social normals and gender roles - they didn’t just exist, so I don’t know how we can put so much weight on gender norms. I feel like I’m not properly verbalizing this. Definitely need to work through my thoughts and ideas more. Thanks for the episode!
@@callunya I think trans people adopt behaviors that are Associated with the gender they identify as because that’s how we communicate our identities or how we want to be seen by to other people.
@@konway17 it still very unclear what you're trying to say. Trans women are real, trans women are trans, cis women are real, cis women are cis. trying to erase the distinction between the two groups is what's causing lot's of grief. Some spaces are cis women spaces only now and if transwomen are to be included in them that conversation needs to happen with the distinction in mind without silencing people with blanket statements like "transwomen are women"
When I hear you talk, it makes me feel less alone. A lot of your thoughts and feelings on these various topics, I've found myself thinking in similar ways but I know it's not okay to say such touchy statements out loud. I don't know how many other people think similarly, but I'm glad I found this channel.
When I was a kid I grew up not wanting to be a girl, this was in the 90's and there wasn't much lingo around it. All I knew was that I was terrified to hit puberty and develop breasts, I hated anything that was "girly" , I dressed male and did male activities, never had interest in crushes etc. I went on like this until about 6th grade when I developed a bit more of an appeal to "girl" things. As I got older I realized it stemmed from some dad issues as well I just carry a masculine energy while very much feeling and knowing I'm female. What I pause to wonder is, had I grown up in today's society where there are many labels , would have been more confused, would I have actually tried to transition and what consequences would I have faced as a result.
Very similar experience and I too have wondered if I would if got wrapped up in the gender issue if this was a thing when I was young. I suspect I would have been way more confused that’s for sure. As I got older and my brain developed I was able to breakdown that I just didn’t enjoy being objectified and so tended and still do, prefer masculine type clothing. First they are more comfortable but also sure it’s a protection thing. I do like being a woman though.
I had a very similar experience growing up. I was very much a tomboy as a kid and totally rejected feminine things (or what society thinks are feminine things). It got to the point where when I was in middle school I wanted to get a breast reduction before my breasts got too big. But now that I'm in my 20s, I have gone full force into feminine things and love being super girly, and I think my tomboy phase came from the fact that I had a lot of trauma relating to the fact that I was (or still am) a girl. I was judged, mocked, not taken seriously, and also taken advantage of for being a girl. Like when I wanted a breast reduction, it was because boys in middle school were very perverted towards me and I HATED that (still do). I'm sure if I grew up with today's popular views, I most likely would've transitioned to being male and probably regretted it.
I think the way my anthropology of sexuality and gender lecturer described gender to me made the most sense. - There are sex differences are inherent and based in a biological reality; however, the large majority of assumptions surrounding sex differences are culturally and temporally constructed. Gender is that cultural construction. Even within a society like ours where gender and sex have been considered interchangeable for a long time, categories like female and woman tend to denote different associations. - Gender constructions are established through a variety of different social infrastructures and frameworks, eg. language, clothing, designation of roles, behaviour, which make them appear more 'real' than they actually are - The biological determinants of sex also aren't binary and exist on a spectrum but the ways in which certain body parts and intersex people are perceived vary wildly based on cultural context. For example in modern western society there is little room for ambiguity and people tend to be classified as either male or female; whilst in a lot of ancient and modern cultures the borders between sexes are more fluid and third gender groups are included. The way I interpret gender is that Ideas of masculinity and femininity are a collection of symbols and a kind of language that is created and deconstructed over time. We either gravitate or are socialised towards these different patterns. As much as I identify as a cis woman, the older I get the more I realise how much of that identity has been shaped by my external environment. I have a feeling if I was born phenotypically male I would probably have little issue being filling the identity of man. I think certain people naturally gravitate more towards the symbolic notions of one gender whilst others are less concerned or are more flexible.
The way I see it Masculine and feminine energy isnt like a gender identity thing. It could be a gender expression thing but I think its more of a personality thing.
To the comunity point- as a genderqueer women who has had my cis friends express they get confused about gender and pronouns. I explain to them that they dont need to get it and know everything but they should make an effort to understand the trans people in their lives.
Last thing. I also dont think anyone who's researched on gender and its complexities would say your trans britney. Your clearly a women. You have only expressed an connection to feeling female. Your expression can be masculine and feminine. Your energy can be masculine and feminine. You can still be female and all those things
Ahhh I think this podcast episode may be my favorite! Well done, brittney. As someone who is non-binary, and who was excited to hear your perspective, this helped me so much with a lot of the questioning I’ve been doing. I am currently working through my religious beliefs, my surroundings, my queerness, my mental illness struggles, as well as my identity as a whole. Because of this, I actually really appreciate your upfront language. People tiptoeing around language to protect my feelings can tend to just make me more confused lol. I definitely think I’m ready to just be myself without the necessity of labels and just exist as me, without worrying about invalidating myself out of fear of not being accepted. I apologize for the paragraph, I just really wanted to thank you and show my gratitude for you and your channel, and I hope to see a lot more of your vibe on RUclips. :)
I never felt very girly growing up. I wasn't a tom boy but I definitely felt like an outsider around all the girls in my class as well. As a young teenager I briefly questioned if I was a trans man, but I didn't want to be a man either. I felt like I could never fit the roles of what womanhood was supposed to be. And I refused to change myself and pretend that I was someone I wasn't. But, as I got older I began viewing womanhood differently than I did when I was younger. I viewed it in a more expansive and inclusive way, a way where people who didn't fit 'stereotypical womanhood' like me still fit in neatly and comfortably. Instead of creating a new identity for myself I instead challenged what it meant to be a woman in my own head. But as I've gotten older I've come to realize that had I been born today I would have jumped at the chance to consider myself nb. It's strange to me, bc I'm very happy and comfortably a woman now, but I also feel like I could have been nb. I don't feel like acknowledging that I could have been nb actually makes me nb. But I'm also not sure exactly what that means for gender and my understanding of it in general. Either way I'm very happy as I am now.
I struggle to understand the connection between gender and one's performance of gender. I am a cis woman, but for a while I toyed with the idea that I may be genderqueer because I do not feel any sort of connection to many things associated with womanhood, or society's perception of womanhood. I do not identify with pregnancy/motherhood, I have 0 desire to be perceived as feminine, ect ect. I do not want fem gender norms applied to me, both physical and mental ones (like being more submissive or emotional, ect). Obviously I do not think woman need to be feminine or mothers or whatever, but everyone acknowledges that there are societal norms around what is fem or masc, and genderqueer people often reject such norms. Honestly I feel like a woman only because so many of my shaping childhood experiences revolved around me being a girl. In the end I came to the conclusion that I don't actually want to stop identifying as a woman, I just hate all the fucking bullshit that comes with being a woman. But then what's the point of gender if I just ... do what I want completely regardless of my gender identity? What's the point of gender identity outside of like, dressing and acting a certain way, which changes over time anyway?
@@chipperFangirlsage True, but why is it neccessary to categorize characteristics in that way? Also, a lack of femininity doesn't automatically equal masculinity. There are so many behaviors and qualities that are just neutral, that belong to humanity as a whole, and I don't see why we need to put things into arbitrary boxes. I think it's cool if other people want to describe themselves in those terms, but I don't appreciate the degree to which it's projected onto me or others.
I’m kinda in the same boat. I’m male, born male, always felt emotionally, physically, spiritually male. But I’ve also never really had those “boyhood” or “growing into manhood” moments, but I just am… male. I’ve definitely had deeply human experiences and interactions. I think it’s hard for me to ascribe to how other people describe their experiences, or how they felt pressured by society or other peoples expectations for how to perform or *be* male or female. I’m just being me, and “male” falls into that umbrella but there are also many other things I am.
I usually can't be interested in a podcast for more than 5 minutes ( Frenemies being the exception that proves the rule ) but I keep coming back to The Brittany Simon Podcast
I think Native Americans wanting to preserve our culture sometimes comes across as aggressiveness or exclusionary or even discrimination. Given our country's history, I don't blame them for being defensive. My mother did her best, but I still grew up missing that side of myself. Brittany, can you even image if you were hatched into life away from your culture and family? Anyway I think we get caught up in the fight and forget what we are fighting for. We are fighting to preserve the peace in knowing that we are all in this together. We are all humans who share everything on Earth, including thought and origin. We are all made of stardust. We are all made of atoms. I forget who said it, and I'm paraphrasing, but nevertheless, "You are as intimately in the universe as the universe is in you". If this is true, then how can one sect of humans have something that another sect cannot also discover? Yes, we are all moving at different paces, but we are moving together. I think anyone can be Two Spirit, but they probably wouldn't call it that unless they were Native. My hope is that you have discovered Two Spirit people, and that insight has moved you along your own path so that you may find yourself. After that I would hope that you make your own language for your own findings because your experience is distinct to you and it deserves it's own space to flourish.
Two main points I have regarding this conversation: 1) Each time I hear the term masculine & feminine 'energy', the only thing I think of are stereotypical & cultural sex roles that in actuality have no basis in sex biology. The terms 'masculine and feminine energy' don't make sense to me at all when people imply that those things are inherent to respective biological sexes. 2) Many people here in the comment section talk about realizing how being a woman or a man is much more than what they thought as younger people as if it's this unique epiphany they've had when it's simply just their realizing that gender roles are stupid, which is a very obvious and logical thing that many people already understand. I've realized that people without gender dysphoria who think that they're transsexual sooooo many times have a really hard time grasping the difference between actual transsexualism vs narrow-minded stereotypical gender roles, which is honestly insane to me because it's such an obvious distinction.
In reference to Two-Spirit, I could be wrong but the way my ex in-laws (who are Native American) explained it, it’s an identity that anyone can identify or “feel” but to be called two-spirit specifically is a religious thing in their specific culture.
I think most ppl are pretty spot on when it comes to their interpretations of gender in their realities. It’s different for everyone, so everyone will discuss it differently. I believe that gender involves biology, spirituality/energy, and society/culture. I took some Gender Studies classes, and came to that conclusion after learning about different ways gender is interpreted throughout the world and throughout time. The definition of it is so fluid to me, I just see as something personal and private, yet observable and open to interpretation by everyone. I’ve always been quite masculine presenting, but my personality is the complete opposite, and now I’m working on matching my look to my personality and energy. I wanna be more Feminine in order to find a good Masculine husband, but it’s difficult bc the Masculine part of me is still there and is where I’m most comfortable.
54:03 this is something I have tried explaining to people so many times with very mixed results. I feel like constantly people are having misunderstandings over not having the same vocabulary or not defining shared vocabulary in the same way. It keeps people from realizing that at the end of the day that we are all often talking about the same thing and we are on the same page more than we know
39:00 “I feel like that’s what it must be like for trans people” Girl you really hit the spot!! That’s really how it feels like for a lot of trans people (mostly binary trans people) because growing up you really feel like the opposite gender but the world perceives you as one way and tells you that’s who you are when you totally see yourself differently.
Really love when you talked about masculine vs feminine energy. I would say very few humans encompass only one or the other, and it's really interesting to think about which pieces of us are masculine and which are feminine. (Assuming we do, indeed, fall into both) I remember growing up and being very confused about what type of energy I wanted to encompass. I hid my body, but not in a peaceful way. I wore boy clothes, but didn't enjoy it. I enjoyed the way boys interacted more than girls, but I knew I wasn't one of them. I wanted to be feminine, I knew I was a girl, but didn't know how to encompass both energies. Never thought about it like that before, but that is definitely how I would describe it! My balance now is dressing feminine but my speech and general mannerisms are more masculine. Personality is definitely a combination of both, but I definitely feel really feminine when there's a nice masculine man I'm attracted to though, like take me daddy lol Always love your podcasts Brittany and having you directly present me with a chance to self-reflect on the past and present!
@39:30 wow yea I dunno why I was super offended when a teacher told me I was “probably mixed” and I was adamant that I was 100% west African. And having the dna info to back it up is validating
hearing other women talk about their struggles with gender/ identity and playing with masc/ fem energy is very comforting to me. Im a woman, I was born a woman and have spent my whole life socially presenting as a woman. Ihave fem energy but I also have a lot of masc energy and I have a weird relationship with my boobs, like genuinely have wanted to chop them off for yearssss/ be flat chested and thats the one thought that causes so much internal turmoil. Like do i hate them because they arent the perfect boobs I was told i should have? Or do i hate my boobs becuase they intensify my body dysmorphia/ body image? Or do i hate them for some reason that has to do with how I identify and my gender? if so does this mean I should identify as trans or nonbinary? I will literally sit there and spiral over it for hours but when I talk about it to people in my bubble, literally nobody understands what I'm saying. So reading this comment section and listening to this podcast def helped me feel less alone and crazy :)
as someone doing my own thing minding my business it’s so disheartening when you’re perceived as a threat or an “oppresser”. I just want to encourage ppl to be a complete individual rather than have superficial over identifications. I learned just to have compassion and patience with ppl like that. Personally my experience with gender is being very unaware of mine, I suppose it could be considered non binary but I’m aware of how society views and it doesn’t bother me at all.
Thank you for making this great episode! I really like Camille Paglia in interviews and I read "Free Women Free Men" by her but it was so self-congratulatory, I guess I need to dive into her older stuff. I totally get the points about masculine and feminine energy. These things are so hard to talk about and yet so easy to understand in real life, it's weird. It's so not the same when you talk about non-binary or being trans on the internet vs in real life. You said this so well when you talked about how we all talk about very similar things but the confusion starts when we use different words and/or are in different bubbles. I think these gaps are more easily bridged in real-life
Yes, I’ve always thought that Jordan Peterson is a very graceful man. Even when he is being forceful with people trying to speak over him and put words in his mouth, he does it in a strangely graceful manner.
Just finished listening on Spotify. What a podcast! I saw someone’s comment how you make them feel less alone, and I agree with that sentiment. Not that I feel alone in my life it’s just that I resonate with your thoughts, language, values so much. I spent so much time on the internet, listening to other ppls opinions in hope of knowing what is right and also finding a way to express my own values better. I just have two questions as a viewer: 1. Is watching on Spotify providing better support than yt? Cuz I would totally switch if that’s the case and just come here for comments. 2. If we acknowledge that our bubbles aren’t the best/most knowing ones (I’m paraphrasing your outro points) do we then still exist in the level 2? This point i just can’t understand very well. Love your content Brittany, looking forward to the next podcast ❤️
It's so crazy to watch this because a friend and I JUST had this exact conversation and we shared these same opinions!!! I 100% understand what you mean about feeling masculine and feminine energy within yourself. I grew up with the stigmatization that pink=girly (from my peers, not my home life), and that made me HATE the color pink because I did not identify as girly. Now, as I'm older, my style and the way I express myself depends solely on that day and how I'm feeling. I LOVE the color pink, I think it's gorgeous and pretty and makes me feel pretty. But I also love cut off shirts and men's shorts because their comfortable and make me feel comfortable.
I don’t think the US is the most woke. I think the US produces the most amount of popular consumable media, culture and art in the most widely used language. As culture changes in the US, it reflects on the media it puts out to the rest of the world. As the rest of the world consumes that media, it starts to reflect the culture change in the US.
I too lendt into the direction of tomboy all my life, as a kid and a teenager, even questioned if I was nonbinary when being swayed by the left ideology. Because needing masculine energy in my life, I turned to being a tomboy myself a lot of the times. I dress more feminine nowadays but all the time I'm torn between wanting to embrace that masculine energy in myself, but in a different way than before. I have the same experience, always had mostly guy friends and they saw me as a guy or at least neutral. Although I always played around with mixing both energies and styles I even got misgendered by a friend for "he" once lol. He was completely flabbergasted when he realised and apologized and I just cracked up.. couldn't care less. I was always attracted to both genders too, loving dudes energies and bodies and the softness of women. However I always wanted to have a masculine body despite having a very feminine body. Last week I realised why I wanted a male body, despite being sure in being a woman - I love men, I love women, however as I'm a woman the body of another woman is drenched in comparison to mine and hangs over my mind like a dark cloud and as I'm a female I cannot ever be a male. (me - not saying anyone else may be able to a degree) That's why I lift weights now to change my body to a strong body and combine the energies. After listening to this podcast it's beautiful realizing there are alot of people that feel the same, and some parts of your journey are literally the same as mine.
I have had such a weird journey with my gender identity. I was born a female and had pretty much all the female experiences a girl could have, however there was always something that felt... Off. I remember as a young girl, I went through a tomboy phase and rejected all things feminine, however nowadays I am extremely feminine in how I present myself. But even now, even if I am super feminine, I still don't feel completely... *Female*. Like I did some introspection and I thought about the female pronouns, "she/her". And I thought to myself... "Is that it?? Is that all I am? I mean, it's correct, but is that really me 100%???" I thought about maybe if I was a trans man or something, but found that the thought of transitioning and using "he/him" pronouns terrified me and actually made me feel worse than if I'd used she/her pronouns. Then I thought about trying "they/them" pronouns exclusively, and that yielded similar thoughts, though not nearly as scary as fully transitioning. I just could NOT pinpoint why I wasn't satisfied with any of these pronouns or identities. Like I was female... But then I wasn't at the same time. I felt a close connection to being a girl, but at the same time it didn't feel like being a girl described me 100% correctly. Then I discovered being a demigirl. I'd never even HEARD of it until recently. From my understanding of it, it's like being a girl... But not *quite*. And *holy shit* was that a game changer. I toyed around with the thought of using "she/they" pronouns and identifying as a demigirl, and oh my GOD did it feel right. I didn't feel like I was in this weird position of not fully identifying with being female, but not being so detached from it that I was something completely different. It felt great to finally figure out what made *me* comfortable. Fundamentally, I'm still female, however identifying as a demigirl and using "she/they" pronouns has definitely improved my quality of life and has made me feel whole. ... That being said, however, I don't expect everyone to use "she/they" pronouns with me or even think my identity is thing. I understand that to some people, I'm just too femininely presenting to be anything more than a girl and that me using "they/them" pronouns as well is simply ridiculous. Therefore, I don't expect everyone to address me as such. I've found that for me, as long as *I* know who I am and want to identify as, it simply doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I know it's not that simple for other people who feel a deep sadness in their hearts when they're misgendered or not taken seriously, but in my personal experience I feel that as long as *I* know who I am, I will be completely ok. I feel I don't have to prove myself to others on what I am.
Also I think we are talking about the same thing when we talk about gender and Two Spirit and energy. We just use very different language. Your language makes perfect sense to my brain and resonates with my experience. I'm wondering if I make sense as well? Translating will always be the most difficult thing for me.
I always feel like I understand you when you talk ♡ I think our brains are on similar wavelengths based on our past conversations. I think we have similar relationships with the human experience , even when they seem different.
I encounter a lot of things about nonbinary people because I consume a lot of american media (it's begining to be more relevant were I live but I think it's also de american influence). I do think gender is in a spectrum but sometimes I feel a little annoyed hearing the way people talk about it... maybe it's my internalized transphobia or something but sometimes I feel they expect me to validate them and at the same time it doesn't matter because they want the validation from the people that don't think they are valid... There are somethings I do find a little... weird? like all the neopronouns that float around in the internet (like the Oli London case) but I don't feel like I can critize them because it's an identity thing and really is very personal and people really feel very defensive about it. I can talk to friends about my thoughts but because people feel attacked when someone brings a critique I feel like the discourse about sexuality became very muddy in a lot of places in the internet... and it sucks! because I think sometimes people forget that words are yes, to describe and know ourselves better but more importantly to communicate with others and try to understand the other and it's not happening. For example, I think "woman" or "man" it's not meant to establish a role model everyone must aspire to, because there are a lot of ways of being one, but it's about talking shared experiences (good, bad, neutral) that not everyone has and thats ok. I don't experience all the thinks a "student" does but I do consider myself one... I don't know... sometimes it's a little frustrating thinking that we put our experience and way of thinking above everyone's elses... and people demanding that of me rubs me the wrong way sometimes, I have other thinks to do that validate some random in the internet and giving them money only for existing. Words can only describe some parts about ourselves and our experiences. I don't think anyone cares in such detail about my sexuality and I don't think people are that speacial to think about in such detail about theirs... it's a little presumptuous to think that way. I was a little rambly but I hope you can understand me. I wrote a long comment and got deleted because I clicked in a video ;___; LOL I'm so clumsy sometimes... it's hard for me to express my complex thoughts in English, but I really liked hearing you disscusing this topic and wanted to comment.
Brittany I love your videos! I love your observations on the world and it’s people. It will be great if someday you could go into depth what you consider what’s feminine and masculine energy. I really don’t know, looking within myself, how to piece out what’s feminine or masculine about myself. Keep doing you 🖤
I really like what you're doing here. To grossly oversimplify, you have taken what works from the right and left. Divorced from the divisive, perfidious dichotomy that is tearing America apart. But you don't have any of that self important "enlightened centrist" energy. You're just sharing genuine wisdom that has been largely missing from the main stream for generations now. With video game and anime references lol. Stay humble, but this is truly awesome.
Only 13 mins in: I've also heard of trans women pre-transition who go to these functions for ulterior motives. Its a valid feeling and respectable that you left instead of the opposite. Jessica yaniv is someone on the internet know for it.
When you talked about who you identified with in media I went and thought of my own experiences and I noticed I relate with fem man the most. Android 17 & Freeza from DBZ came to mind oh and Aang so I guess I’m a femboy after all lol.
The female camaraderie that I feel when another woman excitedly feels needed and gives me a pad or tampon is one of the best feelings in the world. Lol
"A normal heterosexual couple, nothing significant about them" As a boring heterosexual I will say that is how I was wired and love it, and love all my exciting community of "not hetero" To each their own. Please please please stop trying to 'lame' us vanillas. We are just as f**kin freaky as any significant being.🤜🌈🤛
What even is gender yo? XD I still don't know what gender is. Sex in my opinion is very simple and straightforward but gender is much more complex. I'm confused as to if gender is an expression, or a performance, or an identity or your sex or your brain. Maybe it's all of the above plus more I have no idea. Lol But I do know that I am a girl. I was born a girl, I was raised as a girl, I am perceived socially as a girl, I identify as a girl and I enjoy performing as a girl. I was more tomboyish in high school but that was hugely performative to get boyfriends and affection. After high school I learned to find value in femininity and I instantly fell in love with the idea of The Devine Feminine and being a woman in general. Unfortunately that also turned very performative. Now I'm learning how to feel myself for what I am in the moment instead of feeling as if I should perform a certain way. 😌
Came across your channel a few days ago, and damn so many things in this video specifically speak to me. A lot of my experiences are def a sex/gender inversion of your experiences. Also came to a lot of similar conclusions thinking about how ppl all across the world iew gender/sex as well. ITs been a ride lmfao.
This was a really interesting video! I've questioned my gender on and off since I was a young teen (heavily influenced by Tumblr lol) and I've been coming to understand recently that my gender identity is very much informed by my bisexuality. Like yes I am a woman in the political sense but in the social sense... Not quite? But close enough. I feel connected to how my body looks and I'm very comfortable with my gender expression so for me that's all that matters. Around my queer friends it's like eh gender is fake I don't feel it but around the rest of the world I'm seen as a woman and that's fine with me
Completely off topic Like mad off topic But your earring reminded me of the movie Zenon girl of the 21st-century They make an earring out of a “Computer chip” and it looks very similar to yours On carry on, have a good one and Great video
is why I see most thing as relative. I know I can get a feel for the difference in qualities but can't fully define it. I know i need to pick what level of detail I am focusing on.
I'm in a 'figuring everything out' place with my gender and expression but I love when my boyfriends friends or brothers friends or even my own guy friends see me as a 'bro'. I feel equal and welcome that way.
47:10 HAHA I easily attach through sex so don't think I'll ever have a hoe phase like that but I love that I can live vicariously through 20s you! More hoe stories pleasee
A long message about what confuses me about gender... Gender is confusing to me. I am agender, person and I think I have both feminine and masculine energy in me. I was born as female and while I had some masculine energy at young age but I never wanted to be a boy but I never felt as girl either, only my body was a female body. For long time I thought I had to be a female because my body was female and everyone said I was one so it must be true then. It was later in life that I started to think more about my gender and what it means to be male or female. I always knew I wasn't a boy or a male and never wanted to be one but since I never felt as female either, I was quite confused what was I supposed to be and what it even means to be a male or female. Even now I don't fully understand what it means to be a female or male. Even when it comes to other people I never really know what makes one a male and someone a female, I can say someone appears masculine or feminine or their energy appears to me either feminine or masculine but that's about all. Many seem so sure about their gender that it is interesting for me to try to understand what makes them so sure about it. Even when it comes to myself, I am unsure why I feel so strongly about not being female or male and all I know is that when I read about agender, I felt like it fit me the best. Overall I think gender is interesting but also quite confusing thing
gender is so interesting. I'm a girl but not passionately so, it's just like well I happen to have girl anatomy. I'm completely ambivalent about being female or male, but I wasn't raised male and have a more "emotional" temperament. I've never been someone who's taken my appearance as part of my core identity so that probably plays into it.
I also have 2 sisters, no brothers, but they're younger so I have older sibling responsibility syndrome. I've never really identified with what standard girls are interested in and I tend to wear gender neutral clothing, anything loose and flowy (so I'll wear skirts and occasionally dresses). I can talk like a girl or a guy but guys see me as a girl because I'm very soft and look like a girl and am modest. my personality isn't brutish at all, I'm sometimes crude but it has an elegance to it 😂
You know, Neil DeGrasse Tyson had a point. He was like, maybe the problem is that we decide to pigeonhole people into one of two category. Maybe we should test people's hormone levels and have them separated into groups according to hormone levels. I was like, FUCKING GENIUS. Why not? you get to be tested by what you are currently whether supplementary or not. Hell we might have 4 or 6 groups competing in diff categories. Also, thank you for telling me what reasonable looks like. I still struggle with triggers. Hell, I didn't recognize them until I watched one of your Trisha Videos and I had the epiphany. I was doing the same at a smaller scale with the people close to me and I was horrified. I apologized, increased my meds, set up an ppt with my doctor and I intend to go back to dbt. I don't want to lash out at other people. That is the worst sin to me. to make my trauma someone else's problem, especially if they're friends and fam.
The way I see and experience gender has always confused me; when I was a teen I thought I was gender fluid because according to tumblr you HAD to be if you experienced masc and fem energy 😂 I now know I’m a woman because I am and also cause I wanna be. But it has informed my sexuality too that’s why I’ve picked the pan label so I can comfortably fit into the queer spaces I love in my community (ie clubs, dating, all that)
Have you heard the term Demi-girl? I identify with most of your experience and if I was told to think really really hard about my gender that’s probably what I would settle on. Honestly hearing you describe feeling stupid dressed as a girl and feeling good talking among the men when you were young makes me think you processed the pros and cons of both gender roles and decided it’s better to be a man. Honestly I fully agree, getting to pick and choose between gender role to maximize benefits and minimize drawbacks is the shit :)
Researching gender is a worthless activity I think. Like researching race. The disciplines have become so dominated by activists who use them to advance their politics that research is pointless. When you are researching in today's word all you're doing is reading one side's propaganda. You're not actually learning anything true and useful. I find the content of the podcast interesting, I am just reacting to the bit in the beginning where she says she researched gender. I think in today's society research has taken a back seat to propaganda. "Researchers" don't seek facts, they seek a means of justifying their predetermined conclusions. This makes their findings worthless in terms of research. As just one example, you can point to the way that the fact that the majority of young trans people no longer feel trans when they are adults has been suppressed. So researching trans issues in young people is corrupted by the politics of trans activists who don't want detransitioning to be highlighted. Another example would be the relationship of race and IQ. It's impossible to research this because it has been deemed de facto racist to consider the issue. So if you want to research whether the brains of people of different races operate differently, you can't. Enough accurate information on the subject just doesn't exist because it has been deemed politically wrong to research that subject. I'm aware this comment is sounding anti-left wing but it really isn't my point to criticize the left per se. My intention is to criticize the politicization of education such that facts that don't agree with the mainstream opinion on a particular issue get de-emphasized making balanced investigation into any issue that is politically charged very difficult. On the right it could perhaps be gun violence where you might find facts and statistics distorted to make free and open gun ownership in society seem safer than it actually is. So I'm not saying it's an issue with any particular side of the political spectrum, I'm saying it's an issue with us as a society where we sort of broke barriers we shouldn't have broken. Not injecting politics into school curriculums, into business, into science, etc was a policy that everyone followed by instinct I think up until relatively recently when the polarization broke down those norms on both sides such that now even as the internet gives us access to an amount of information that would have been staggering to the imaginations of our ancestors, the quality of that information is on a downward trend.
I think further studying abstract concepts like gender might not be as helpful to a community but more to the individual who studies the degree in order to find some sort of validation, in that I agree. There are many social studies that could potentially help the community politically, fixing administrative procedures, financially supporting and directing resources to the necessary organizations to see actual growth in the most needed communities etc... Im not from the USA my viee might be different in thinking its ok to keep stugying anything as long as people keep studying, but then I know there are liberal agendas in most univerisites in the US and how these do have an impact in what you study and the debt the students are left with after if horrendous and after studying a super niche degree that no one is really looking for to employ, these stuudents end up working in dead end jobs and well... It all sounds pretty bad from where I stand...
Personally, I investigate gender and such to understand better trans people, with youtube is much easier to find real life experiences and therefore to humanize people. But I also get recommended a bunch of detrasitioning videos, so I don't know if they are truly suppressed. I agree you def can only research to confirm your reality, but that will depend on the person.
I hope you comment on this Britney! In my philosophical system which I’m calling elemental spirits energy. You are a Fire and earth spirit, the Fox! Grounded and intelligent being.
i think the crux of the issue with this debate stems from gender and identity being prioritized over the literal body. regardless of identity we exist (the vast majority) in male or female bodies; so to begin allowing males into sex segregated spaces starts eroding female rights and bodily autonomy and the ability to say no to who we share facilities and spaces with. if we include everyone on the basis of identity we revoke the rights of the majority, as seen in female-identifying inmates being allowed into female prisons, to the detriment of the inmates. Identity can exist so long as legislation does not neglect the reality of biology and the consequences therein. there have to be rules and definitions or else we all fall into postmodernism where everything is anything and everything is nothing
What is the reality of the biological? Even biological sex is a spectrum, you can have chromosomes outside of XX/XY, genitals that have a mix of male and female features, hormones that are between 'expected' levels, ect. There is no clear line to draw between male and female, and doing so will ultimately hurt people just existing in the body they were born in. For example, the Olympics banning naturally high testosterone women, which affected cis women, who now had to take medicine or lose their right to compete.
@@laniln the vast majority of people are very clearly male or female. people with intersex conditions are such a small minority to the point of statistical irrelevance. the logical conclusion to your argument is that we simply cannot define either male or female therefore might as well remove all sex segregated spaces to become unisex. as brittany said in this video, we have evolved over time and have developed the ability to tell the sexes apart as a crucial survival instinct because the lived reality of the male and female body is very different, regardless of whatever nonsense nuance you're trying to shoehorn in to erode basic common sense. next time a woman declares that a man makes her uncomfortable, make sure you march up to her and tell her she's a bigot who is lying about being able to visually identify the sex in front of her. just more of the same regressive progressivism
Maybe if you hadn't been raised in a home that allowed you to present masculine you would have needed to come out as trans. We both seem like aggressive people and I know if I had been repressed I would have burst out. I was also raised in a more traditional home where my parents enjoyed my masculinity because it meant I dressed very modestly. I liked being "misgendered" as a boy. I wanted to have short hair and be strong. I only wore boys clothes. I grew up and I wished I had a penis and a beard, large hands and narrow hips. I like that always, but I also embraced femininity as I grew up. Now I still want all those things but I also like having boobs and hips and long hair. I like wearing frilly dresses and heels too now. I do feel like a woman, probably because my behaviors were always allowed. Sometimes my parents would complain that I sat with my legs open or that I looked like a boy, but they also complained if I tried out makeup or tried dressing up (This is why I don't think it made an impact, I was used to them complaining about everything no matter what I did).
To put it in Brittany's language. Experiencing othering in your bubble (about your gender) might drive you to identify with a different bubble. Some people with trans experiences don't identify as trans because they feel perfectly accepted in their bubble and feel no need to.
Holy shit. I was talking to my husband about this just yesterday. I work with a non binary person that prefers they/then or He/him pronouns, sex is female but energy is so woman to me but a butch woman. I struggle with the pronouns, constantly correcting myself. Being gen x it can be different. I also work with a trans female and at first I was like is this person non binary until I was corrected and calling her a she was easy. Totally female energy
gender is a matter of Becoming. not that people drastically change everything about their presentation or even feel radically different over time, but i am largely against the "born this way" narrative. gender doesn't need a biological precedent. that's not to respond to the main arguments people make, but altogether there is no chemical x that decides(!) queerness of any kind. I say that because, from my xp, queerness is largely a choice. it's not a matter of choosing a b or c, but just kinda living and knowing that im open-minded about my interests. speaking more politically, i can talk about cissexism-- the policing of all bodies (based on sex/gender). ive been politically motivated to seek contradiction within myself because i lost connection to existence as a cis woman. it's much more honest imo to accept one's multiplicity, but maybe that defies the use that ppl feel we have for gender as a language. lastly, i think i said it already, but gender needn't be interesting. it can just "be." like, it takes so little to be trans and people really refuse themselves the label because they feel they need to suffer for it or smth. you don't need surgery or hormones or even new pronouns to blur definitions of your being. it's like giving yourself the permission to expand your understanding what it means to be you. idk ive met very queer cis people too so 🤷🏽 tl;dr notice the contradictions and balance them. embrace them!
idk im trying to not sell the trans agenda but also it's not the label that i think is necessary for ppl to feel freer but the act of doing what you're talking about-- "i feel a but also b so i respond to that by doing z" and i think that's what queerness is all about, being and becoming
I love the way you think. Very ENFP. Great vid One total side comment -- I thought people of middle eastern ethnicities are considered racially white ? Anyway, looking fwd to watching more of your podcasts!
I'm An ENTJ so love the ENFP vibes❤ Middle Eastern people, like gender, are complicated haha We are racially white, but in the states considered not white (in most contexts).
@@BrittanySimon There are many middle-eastern people who are brown and dark skinned who aren't considered white at all by most standards (including mine). Not everyone in the middle east has pale skin.
Off topic but I’m wondering how a five can not believe in god (no problem with. Makes sense) but can be patriotic (also no problem with). Just wondering what the difference is there. I guess you don’t know god exists but you do know a country exists. But do countries really exist? Like on some level? And how can we feel loyalty to or pride in an arbitrarily defined group of people that may or not have that much in common with us?
Patriotism is a concept I have always really struggled with. The idea of being fiercely loyal to a country because you were born there or live there just seems so illogical. My loyalties have always been to individual people, friends + family, and I have never been able to wrap my head around the patriotism thing. I like the country where I live fine enough, but “patriotism” just seems odd to me.
What do you think people get wrong about gender?
Maybe you could talk about the phrase "transwomen are women". It irks me because it means absolutely nothing. Do they mean we should respect people who don't present in traditional gender role characters and call them preferred pronouns? Do they mean All women are trans women? Do they mean we have to allow transwomen into all cis women spaces? Because i find the later distructive
@@starynights9769 it simply means that transwomen are women because transphobes say transwomen aren’t real women lol what’s confusing about it?
Like you had mentioned, I think the distinction between biological sex and gender are becoming too blurred. Like you said in regards to missing persons cases, this can matter so much. Health wise too, such as being aware of what predisposition we have to illness and disease based on biological sex. Overall, trans people and other gendered or non binary people do not bother me or give my any qualms. What confuses me though is how we’re taking gender norms and turning them into some innate spiritual thing. Like when people transition, I’ve seen so many people just adopt stereotypical norms to be “womanly” or something. And it’s confusing because, we created social normals and gender roles - they didn’t just exist, so I don’t know how we can put so much weight on gender norms. I feel like I’m not properly verbalizing this. Definitely need to work through my thoughts and ideas more. Thanks for the episode!
@@callunya I think trans people adopt behaviors that are Associated with the gender they identify as because that’s how we communicate our identities or how we want to be seen by to other people.
@@konway17 it still very unclear what you're trying to say. Trans women are real, trans women are trans, cis women are real, cis women are cis.
trying to erase the distinction between the two groups is what's causing lot's of grief. Some spaces are cis women spaces only now and if transwomen are to be included in them that conversation needs to happen with the distinction in mind without silencing people with blanket statements like "transwomen are women"
When I hear you talk, it makes me feel less alone. A lot of your thoughts and feelings on these various topics, I've found myself thinking in similar ways but I know it's not okay to say such touchy statements out loud. I don't know how many other people think similarly, but I'm glad I found this channel.
I'm so glad❤
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When I was a kid I grew up not wanting to be a girl, this was in the 90's and there wasn't much lingo around it. All I knew was that I was terrified to hit puberty and develop breasts, I hated anything that was "girly" , I dressed male and did male activities, never had interest in crushes etc. I went on like this until about 6th grade when I developed a bit more of an appeal to "girl" things. As I got older I realized it stemmed from some dad issues as well I just carry a masculine energy while very much feeling and knowing I'm female.
What I pause to wonder is, had I grown up in today's society where there are many labels , would have been more confused, would I have actually tried to transition and what consequences would I have faced as a result.
Very similar experience and I too have wondered if I would if got wrapped up in the gender issue if this was a thing when I was young. I suspect I would have been way more confused that’s for sure.
As I got older and my brain developed I was able to breakdown that I just didn’t enjoy being objectified and so tended and still do, prefer masculine type clothing. First they are more comfortable but also sure it’s a protection thing. I do like being a woman though.
I see a lot of detransition videos on youtube and think this is exactly the consequence of todays leftist movement.
This is a really good detransition interview and I relate to it very much with how I felt growing up ruclips.net/video/M0zWaNdkp7Y/видео.html
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I had a very similar experience growing up. I was very much a tomboy as a kid and totally rejected feminine things (or what society thinks are feminine things). It got to the point where when I was in middle school I wanted to get a breast reduction before my breasts got too big. But now that I'm in my 20s, I have gone full force into feminine things and love being super girly, and I think my tomboy phase came from the fact that I had a lot of trauma relating to the fact that I was (or still am) a girl. I was judged, mocked, not taken seriously, and also taken advantage of for being a girl. Like when I wanted a breast reduction, it was because boys in middle school were very perverted towards me and I HATED that (still do). I'm sure if I grew up with today's popular views, I most likely would've transitioned to being male and probably regretted it.
I think the way my anthropology of sexuality and gender lecturer described gender to me made the most sense.
- There are sex differences are inherent and based in a biological reality; however, the large majority of assumptions surrounding sex differences are culturally and temporally constructed. Gender is that cultural construction. Even within a society like ours where gender and sex have been considered interchangeable for a long time, categories like female and woman tend to denote different associations.
- Gender constructions are established through a variety of different social infrastructures and frameworks, eg. language, clothing, designation of roles, behaviour, which make them appear more 'real' than they actually are
- The biological determinants of sex also aren't binary and exist on a spectrum but the ways in which certain body parts and intersex people are perceived vary wildly based on cultural context. For example in modern western society there is little room for ambiguity and people tend to be classified as either male or female; whilst in a lot of ancient and modern cultures the borders between sexes are more fluid and third gender groups are included.
The way I interpret gender is that Ideas of masculinity and femininity are a collection of symbols and a kind of language that is created and deconstructed over time. We either gravitate or are socialised towards these different patterns. As much as I identify as a cis woman, the older I get the more I realise how much of that identity has been shaped by my external environment. I have a feeling if I was born phenotypically male I would probably have little issue being filling the identity of man. I think certain people naturally gravitate more towards the symbolic notions of one gender whilst others are less concerned or are more flexible.
The way I see it Masculine and feminine energy isnt like a gender identity thing. It could be a gender expression thing but I think its more of a personality thing.
To the comunity point- as a genderqueer women who has had my cis friends express they get confused about gender and pronouns. I explain to them that they dont need to get it and know everything but they should make an effort to understand the trans people in their lives.
Last thing. I also dont think anyone who's researched on gender and its complexities would say your trans britney. Your clearly a women. You have only expressed an connection to feeling female. Your expression can be masculine and feminine. Your energy can be masculine and feminine. You can still be female and all those things
Ahhh I think this podcast episode may be my favorite! Well done, brittney. As someone who is non-binary, and who was excited to hear your perspective, this helped me so much with a lot of the questioning I’ve been doing. I am currently working through my religious beliefs, my surroundings, my queerness, my mental illness struggles, as well as my identity as a whole. Because of this, I actually really appreciate your upfront language. People tiptoeing around language to protect my feelings can tend to just make me more confused lol. I definitely think I’m ready to just be myself without the necessity of labels and just exist as me, without worrying about invalidating myself out of fear of not being accepted. I apologize for the paragraph, I just really wanted to thank you and show my gratitude for you and your channel, and I hope to see a lot more of your vibe on RUclips. :)
@21:20 - Gender is cultural. So native Americans “owning” 2 spirit is related to the culture in which that gender is expressed
I never felt very girly growing up. I wasn't a tom boy but I definitely felt like an outsider around all the girls in my class as well. As a young teenager I briefly questioned if I was a trans man, but I didn't want to be a man either. I felt like I could never fit the roles of what womanhood was supposed to be. And I refused to change myself and pretend that I was someone I wasn't.
But, as I got older I began viewing womanhood differently than I did when I was younger. I viewed it in a more expansive and inclusive way, a way where people who didn't fit 'stereotypical womanhood' like me still fit in neatly and comfortably. Instead of creating a new identity for myself I instead challenged what it meant to be a woman in my own head.
But as I've gotten older I've come to realize that had I been born today I would have jumped at the chance to consider myself nb. It's strange to me, bc I'm very happy and comfortably a woman now, but I also feel like I could have been nb. I don't feel like acknowledging that I could have been nb actually makes me nb. But I'm also not sure exactly what that means for gender and my understanding of it in general.
Either way I'm very happy as I am now.
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I struggle to understand the connection between gender and one's performance of gender.
I am a cis woman, but for a while I toyed with the idea that I may be genderqueer because I do not feel any sort of connection to many things associated with womanhood, or society's perception of womanhood. I do not identify with pregnancy/motherhood, I have 0 desire to be perceived as feminine, ect ect. I do not want fem gender norms applied to me, both physical and mental ones (like being more submissive or emotional, ect). Obviously I do not think woman need to be feminine or mothers or whatever, but everyone acknowledges that there are societal norms around what is fem or masc, and genderqueer people often reject such norms.
Honestly I feel like a woman only because so many of my shaping childhood experiences revolved around me being a girl.
In the end I came to the conclusion that I don't actually want to stop identifying as a woman, I just hate all the fucking bullshit that comes with being a woman. But then what's the point of gender if I just ... do what I want completely regardless of my gender identity? What's the point of gender identity outside of like, dressing and acting a certain way, which changes over time anyway?
Gender expression and gender identity are different. You can be a women and express masculine energy or present masculine
@@chipperFangirlsage True, but why is it neccessary to categorize characteristics in that way? Also, a lack of femininity doesn't automatically equal masculinity. There are so many behaviors and qualities that are just neutral, that belong to humanity as a whole, and I don't see why we need to put things into arbitrary boxes. I think it's cool if other people want to describe themselves in those terms, but I don't appreciate the degree to which it's projected onto me or others.
@@petalchild we dont have to. You can use what labels u want and others can do the same
@@petalchild and you're right other expressions exist besides masculine and feminine
I’m kinda in the same boat. I’m male, born male, always felt emotionally, physically, spiritually male. But I’ve also never really had those “boyhood” or “growing into manhood” moments, but I just am… male. I’ve definitely had deeply human experiences and interactions.
I think it’s hard for me to ascribe to how other people describe their experiences, or how they felt pressured by society or other peoples expectations for how to perform or *be* male or female. I’m just being me, and “male” falls into that umbrella but there are also many other things I am.
I usually can't be interested in a podcast for more than 5 minutes ( Frenemies being the exception that proves the rule ) but I keep coming back to The Brittany Simon Podcast
😭😭😭😭 thank you so much!!!
I think Native Americans wanting to preserve our culture sometimes comes across as aggressiveness or exclusionary or even discrimination. Given our country's history, I don't blame them for being defensive. My mother did her best, but I still grew up missing that side of myself. Brittany, can you even image if you were hatched into life away from your culture and family? Anyway I think we get caught up in the fight and forget what we are fighting for. We are fighting to preserve the peace in knowing that we are all in this together. We are all humans who share everything on Earth, including thought and origin. We are all made of stardust. We are all made of atoms. I forget who said it, and I'm paraphrasing, but nevertheless, "You are as intimately in the universe as the universe is in you". If this is true, then how can one sect of humans have something that another sect cannot also discover? Yes, we are all moving at different paces, but we are moving together. I think anyone can be Two Spirit, but they probably wouldn't call it that unless they were Native. My hope is that you have discovered Two Spirit people, and that insight has moved you along your own path so that you may find yourself. After that I would hope that you make your own language for your own findings because your experience is distinct to you and it deserves it's own space to flourish.
Two main points I have regarding this conversation:
1) Each time I hear the term masculine & feminine 'energy', the only thing I think of are stereotypical & cultural sex roles that in actuality have no basis in sex biology.
The terms 'masculine and feminine energy' don't make sense to me at all when people imply that those things are inherent to respective biological sexes.
2) Many people here in the comment section talk about realizing how being a woman or a man is much more than what they thought as younger people as if it's this unique epiphany they've had when it's simply just their realizing that gender roles are stupid, which is a very obvious and logical thing that many people already understand.
I've realized that people without gender dysphoria who think that they're transsexual sooooo many times have a really hard time grasping the difference between actual transsexualism vs narrow-minded stereotypical gender roles, which is honestly insane to me because it's such an obvious distinction.
It’s so awesome to see you back on RUclips sharing your humanness!
Thank you!!! I feel very lucky to also have an amazing community here that is open to hearing me♡
In reference to Two-Spirit, I could be wrong but the way my ex in-laws (who are Native American) explained it, it’s an identity that anyone can identify or “feel” but to be called two-spirit specifically is a religious thing in their specific culture.
Perfectly makes sense ♡ thanks girl!
You are so well spoken! I love listening to you talk. You explain things with much compassion and patience.
I think most ppl are pretty spot on when it comes to their interpretations of gender in their realities. It’s different for everyone, so everyone will discuss it differently. I believe that gender involves biology, spirituality/energy, and society/culture. I took some Gender Studies classes, and came to that conclusion after learning about different ways gender is interpreted throughout the world and throughout time. The definition of it is so fluid to me, I just see as something personal and private, yet observable and open to interpretation by everyone. I’ve always been quite masculine presenting, but my personality is the complete opposite, and now I’m working on matching my look to my personality and energy. I wanna be more Feminine in order to find a good Masculine husband, but it’s difficult bc the Masculine part of me is still there and is where I’m most comfortable.
54:03 this is something I have tried explaining to people so many times with very mixed results. I feel like constantly people are having misunderstandings over not having the same vocabulary or not defining shared vocabulary in the same way. It keeps people from realizing that at the end of the day that we are all often talking about the same thing and we are on the same page more than we know
39:00 “I feel like that’s what it must be like for trans people” Girl you really hit the spot!! That’s really how it feels like for a lot of trans people (mostly binary trans people) because growing up you really feel like the opposite gender but the world perceives you as one way and tells you that’s who you are when you totally see yourself differently.
Really love when you talked about masculine vs feminine energy. I would say very few humans encompass only one or the other, and it's really interesting to think about which pieces of us are masculine and which are feminine. (Assuming we do, indeed, fall into both)
I remember growing up and being very confused about what type of energy I wanted to encompass. I hid my body, but not in a peaceful way. I wore boy clothes, but didn't enjoy it. I enjoyed the way boys interacted more than girls, but I knew I wasn't one of them. I wanted to be feminine, I knew I was a girl, but didn't know how to encompass both energies. Never thought about it like that before, but that is definitely how I would describe it! My balance now is dressing feminine but my speech and general mannerisms are more masculine. Personality is definitely a combination of both, but I definitely feel really feminine when there's a nice masculine man I'm attracted to though, like take me daddy lol
Always love your podcasts Brittany and having you directly present me with a chance to self-reflect on the past and present!
@39:30 wow yea I dunno why I was super offended when a teacher told me I was “probably mixed” and I was adamant that I was 100% west African. And having the dna info to back it up is validating
hearing other women talk about their struggles with gender/ identity and playing with masc/ fem energy is very comforting to me. Im a woman, I was born a woman and have spent my whole life socially presenting as a woman. Ihave fem energy but I also have a lot of masc energy and I have a weird relationship with my boobs, like genuinely have wanted to chop them off for yearssss/ be flat chested and thats the one thought that causes so much internal turmoil. Like do i hate them because they arent the perfect boobs I was told i should have? Or do i hate my boobs becuase they intensify my body dysmorphia/ body image? Or do i hate them for some reason that has to do with how I identify and my gender? if so does this mean I should identify as trans or nonbinary? I will literally sit there and spiral over it for hours but when I talk about it to people in my bubble, literally nobody understands what I'm saying. So reading this comment section and listening to this podcast def helped me feel less alone and crazy :)
I am so glad you found some footing♡
as someone doing my own thing minding my business it’s so disheartening when you’re perceived as a threat or an “oppresser”. I just want to encourage ppl to be a complete individual rather than have superficial over identifications. I learned just to have compassion and patience with ppl like that. Personally my experience with gender is being very unaware of mine, I suppose it could be considered non binary but I’m aware of how society views and it doesn’t bother me at all.
Thank you for making this great episode! I really like Camille Paglia in interviews and I read "Free Women Free Men" by her but it was so self-congratulatory, I guess I need to dive into her older stuff.
I totally get the points about masculine and feminine energy. These things are so hard to talk about and yet so easy to understand in real life, it's weird. It's so not the same when you talk about non-binary or being trans on the internet vs in real life. You said this so well when you talked about how we all talk about very similar things but the confusion starts when we use different words and/or are in different bubbles. I think these gaps are more easily bridged in real-life
Yes, I’ve always thought that Jordan Peterson is a very graceful man. Even when he is being forceful with people trying to speak over him and put words in his mouth, he does it in a strangely graceful manner.
Just finished listening on Spotify. What a podcast! I saw someone’s comment how you make them feel less alone, and I agree with that sentiment. Not that I feel alone in my life it’s just that I resonate with your thoughts, language, values so much. I spent so much time on the internet, listening to other ppls opinions in hope of knowing what is right and also finding a way to express my own values better.
I just have two questions as a viewer: 1. Is watching on Spotify providing better support than yt? Cuz I would totally switch if that’s the case and just come here for comments.
2. If we acknowledge that our bubbles aren’t the best/most knowing ones (I’m paraphrasing your outro points) do we then still exist in the level 2? This point i just can’t understand very well.
Love your content Brittany, looking forward to the next podcast ❤️
It's so crazy to watch this because a friend and I JUST had this exact conversation and we shared these same opinions!!! I 100% understand what you mean about feeling masculine and feminine energy within yourself. I grew up with the stigmatization that pink=girly (from my peers, not my home life), and that made me HATE the color pink because I did not identify as girly. Now, as I'm older, my style and the way I express myself depends solely on that day and how I'm feeling. I LOVE the color pink, I think it's gorgeous and pretty and makes me feel pretty. But I also love cut off shirts and men's shorts because their comfortable and make me feel comfortable.
you made a good point about missing persons cases how it is much easier to track if we keep to male/female
I don’t think the US is the most woke. I think the US produces the most amount of popular consumable media, culture and art in the most widely used language. As culture changes in the US, it reflects on the media it puts out to the rest of the world. As the rest of the world consumes that media, it starts to reflect the culture change in the US.
I too lendt into the direction of tomboy all my life, as a kid and a teenager, even questioned if I was nonbinary when being swayed by the left ideology. Because needing masculine energy in my life, I turned to being a tomboy myself a lot of the times. I dress more feminine nowadays but all the time I'm torn between wanting to embrace that masculine energy in myself, but in a different way than before.
I have the same experience, always had mostly guy friends and they saw me as a guy or at least neutral. Although I always played around with mixing both energies and styles I even got misgendered by a friend for "he" once lol. He was completely flabbergasted when he realised and apologized and I just cracked up.. couldn't care less. I was always attracted to both genders too, loving dudes energies and bodies and the softness of women. However I always wanted to have a masculine body despite having a very feminine body. Last week I realised why I wanted a male body, despite being sure in being a woman - I love men, I love women, however as I'm a woman the body of another woman is drenched in comparison to mine and hangs over my mind like a dark cloud and as I'm a female I cannot ever be a male. (me - not saying anyone else may be able to a degree) That's why I lift weights now to change my body to a strong body and combine the energies.
After listening to this podcast it's beautiful realizing there are alot of people that feel the same, and some parts of your journey are literally the same as mine.
I have had such a weird journey with my gender identity. I was born a female and had pretty much all the female experiences a girl could have, however there was always something that felt... Off. I remember as a young girl, I went through a tomboy phase and rejected all things feminine, however nowadays I am extremely feminine in how I present myself. But even now, even if I am super feminine, I still don't feel completely... *Female*. Like I did some introspection and I thought about the female pronouns, "she/her". And I thought to myself... "Is that it?? Is that all I am? I mean, it's correct, but is that really me 100%???" I thought about maybe if I was a trans man or something, but found that the thought of transitioning and using "he/him" pronouns terrified me and actually made me feel worse than if I'd used she/her pronouns. Then I thought about trying "they/them" pronouns exclusively, and that yielded similar thoughts, though not nearly as scary as fully transitioning. I just could NOT pinpoint why I wasn't satisfied with any of these pronouns or identities. Like I was female... But then I wasn't at the same time. I felt a close connection to being a girl, but at the same time it didn't feel like being a girl described me 100% correctly. Then I discovered being a demigirl. I'd never even HEARD of it until recently. From my understanding of it, it's like being a girl... But not *quite*. And *holy shit* was that a game changer. I toyed around with the thought of using "she/they" pronouns and identifying as a demigirl, and oh my GOD did it feel right. I didn't feel like I was in this weird position of not fully identifying with being female, but not being so detached from it that I was something completely different. It felt great to finally figure out what made *me* comfortable. Fundamentally, I'm still female, however identifying as a demigirl and using "she/they" pronouns has definitely improved my quality of life and has made me feel whole. ... That being said, however, I don't expect everyone to use "she/they" pronouns with me or even think my identity is thing. I understand that to some people, I'm just too femininely presenting to be anything more than a girl and that me using "they/them" pronouns as well is simply ridiculous. Therefore, I don't expect everyone to address me as such. I've found that for me, as long as *I* know who I am and want to identify as, it simply doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I know it's not that simple for other people who feel a deep sadness in their hearts when they're misgendered or not taken seriously, but in my personal experience I feel that as long as *I* know who I am, I will be completely ok. I feel I don't have to prove myself to others on what I am.
Also I think we are talking about the same thing when we talk about gender and Two Spirit and energy. We just use very different language. Your language makes perfect sense to my brain and resonates with my experience. I'm wondering if I make sense as well? Translating will always be the most difficult thing for me.
I always feel like I understand you when you talk ♡ I think our brains are on similar wavelengths based on our past conversations. I think we have similar relationships with the human experience , even when they seem different.
I encounter a lot of things about nonbinary people because I consume a lot of american media (it's begining to be more relevant were I live but I think it's also de american influence). I do think gender is in a spectrum but sometimes I feel a little annoyed hearing the way people talk about it... maybe it's my internalized transphobia or something but sometimes I feel they expect me to validate them and at the same time it doesn't matter because they want the validation from the people that don't think they are valid... There are somethings I do find a little... weird? like all the neopronouns that float around in the internet (like the Oli London case) but I don't feel like I can critize them because it's an identity thing and really is very personal and people really feel very defensive about it. I can talk to friends about my thoughts but because people feel attacked when someone brings a critique I feel like the discourse about sexuality became very muddy in a lot of places in the internet... and it sucks! because I think sometimes people forget that words are yes, to describe and know ourselves better but more importantly to communicate with others and try to understand the other and it's not happening. For example, I think "woman" or "man" it's not meant to establish a role model everyone must aspire to, because there are a lot of ways of being one, but it's about talking shared experiences (good, bad, neutral) that not everyone has and thats ok. I don't experience all the thinks a "student" does but I do consider myself one... I don't know... sometimes it's a little frustrating thinking that we put our experience and way of thinking above everyone's elses... and people demanding that of me rubs me the wrong way sometimes, I have other thinks to do that validate some random in the internet and giving them money only for existing. Words can only describe some parts about ourselves and our experiences. I don't think anyone cares in such detail about my sexuality and I don't think people are that speacial to think about in such detail about theirs... it's a little presumptuous to think that way. I was a little rambly but I hope you can understand me. I wrote a long comment and got deleted because I clicked in a video ;___; LOL I'm so clumsy sometimes... it's hard for me to express my complex thoughts in English, but I really liked hearing you disscusing this topic and wanted to comment.
Brittany I love your videos! I love your observations on the world and it’s people. It will be great if someday you could go into depth what you consider what’s feminine and masculine energy. I really don’t know, looking within myself, how to piece out what’s feminine or masculine about myself. Keep doing you 🖤
I really like what you're doing here. To grossly oversimplify, you have taken what works from the right and left. Divorced from the divisive, perfidious dichotomy that is tearing America apart. But you don't have any of that self important "enlightened centrist" energy. You're just sharing genuine wisdom that has been largely missing from the main stream for generations now. With video game and anime references lol. Stay humble, but this is truly awesome.
Only 13 mins in: I've also heard of trans women pre-transition who go to these functions for ulterior motives. Its a valid feeling and respectable that you left instead of the opposite.
Jessica yaniv is someone on the internet know for it.
I can watch your videos over and over and over. Brittanyyyyy I love your brain!! Your perspective is just so thought provoking and I love that. 🤍
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When you talked about who you identified with in media I went and thought of my own experiences and I noticed I relate with fem man the most. Android 17 & Freeza from DBZ came to mind oh and Aang so I guess I’m a femboy after all lol.
You reference fruit basket so much I might actually watch it, it sounds decent. Love your video!
Yesss you should totally watch it!
Fruits Basket 2019 is the version I recommend ♡
The female camaraderie that I feel when another woman excitedly feels needed and gives me a pad or tampon is one of the best feelings in the world. Lol
"A normal heterosexual couple, nothing significant about them"
As a boring heterosexual I will say that is how I was wired and love it, and love all my exciting community of "not hetero" To each their own. Please please please stop trying to 'lame' us vanillas. We are just as f**kin freaky as any significant being.🤜🌈🤛
You have no idea how much I appreciate this video 💙
What even is gender yo? XD I still don't know what gender is. Sex in my opinion is very simple and straightforward but gender is much more complex. I'm confused as to if gender is an expression, or a performance, or an identity or your sex or your brain. Maybe it's all of the above plus more I have no idea. Lol
But I do know that I am a girl. I was born a girl, I was raised as a girl, I am perceived socially as a girl, I identify as a girl and I enjoy performing as a girl. I was more tomboyish in high school but that was hugely performative to get boyfriends and affection. After high school I learned to find value in femininity and I instantly fell in love with the idea of The Devine Feminine and being a woman in general. Unfortunately that also turned very performative. Now I'm learning how to feel myself for what I am in the moment instead of feeling as if I should perform a certain way. 😌
Came across your channel a few days ago, and damn so many things in this video specifically speak to me. A lot of my experiences are def a sex/gender inversion of your experiences. Also came to a lot of similar conclusions thinking about how ppl all across the world iew gender/sex as well. ITs been a ride lmfao.
This was a really interesting video! I've questioned my gender on and off since I was a young teen (heavily influenced by Tumblr lol) and I've been coming to understand recently that my gender identity is very much informed by my bisexuality. Like yes I am a woman in the political sense but in the social sense... Not quite? But close enough. I feel connected to how my body looks and I'm very comfortable with my gender expression so for me that's all that matters. Around my queer friends it's like eh gender is fake I don't feel it but around the rest of the world I'm seen as a woman and that's fine with me
Awwww Iroh tea pot! How cute
I love seeing how much you've grown. 👏🏾
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Completely off topic
Like mad off topic
But your earring reminded me of the movie Zenon girl of the 21st-century
They make an earring out of a “Computer chip” and it looks very similar to yours
On carry on, have a good one and
Great video
Omg yesssssss!!!! I have watched that movie so many times🥰🥰🥰
The taste!
is why I see most thing as relative. I know I can get a feel for the difference in qualities but can't fully define it. I know i need to pick what level of detail I am focusing on.
I'm in a 'figuring everything out' place with my gender and expression but I love when my boyfriends friends or brothers friends or even my own guy friends see me as a 'bro'. I feel equal and welcome that way.
For sureeeee🤙
Can I have merch with "we're adults into pet play, I think we can switch genders." LOVE it..
47:10 HAHA I easily attach through sex so don't think I'll ever have a hoe phase like that but I love that I can live vicariously through 20s you! More hoe stories pleasee
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lmao at the masturbation story. It's HILARIOUS.
A long message about what confuses me about gender...
Gender is confusing to me. I am agender, person and I think I have both feminine and masculine energy in me. I was born as female and while I had some masculine energy at young age but I never wanted to be a boy but I never felt as girl either, only my body was a female body.
For long time I thought I had to be a female because my body was female and everyone said I was one so it must be true then. It was later in life that I started to think more about my gender and what it means to be male or female. I always knew I wasn't a boy or a male and never wanted to be one but since I never felt as female either, I was quite confused what was I supposed to be and what it even means to be a male or female.
Even now I don't fully understand what it means to be a female or male. Even when it comes to other people I never really know what makes one a male and someone a female, I can say someone appears masculine or feminine or their energy appears to me either feminine or masculine but that's about all.
Many seem so sure about their gender that it is interesting for me to try to understand what makes them so sure about it. Even when it comes to myself, I am unsure why I feel so strongly about not being female or male and all I know is that when I read about agender, I felt like it fit me the best.
Overall I think gender is interesting but also quite confusing thing
“I don’t have to be a pick me girl because the boys already pick me” holy shit if that ain’t the fuckin yes.
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gender is so interesting. I'm a girl but not passionately so, it's just like well I happen to have girl anatomy. I'm completely ambivalent about being female or male, but I wasn't raised male and have a more "emotional" temperament. I've never been someone who's taken my appearance as part of my core identity so that probably plays into it.
I also have 2 sisters, no brothers, but they're younger so I have older sibling responsibility syndrome. I've never really identified with what standard girls are interested in and I tend to wear gender neutral clothing, anything loose and flowy (so I'll wear skirts and occasionally dresses). I can talk like a girl or a guy but guys see me as a girl because I'm very soft and look like a girl and am modest. my personality isn't brutish at all, I'm sometimes crude but it has an elegance to it 😂
You know, Neil DeGrasse Tyson had a point. He was like, maybe the problem is that we decide to pigeonhole people into one of two category. Maybe we should test people's hormone levels and have them separated into groups according to hormone levels. I was like, FUCKING GENIUS. Why not? you get to be tested by what you are currently whether supplementary or not. Hell we might have 4 or 6 groups competing in diff categories.
Also, thank you for telling me what reasonable looks like. I still struggle with triggers. Hell, I didn't recognize them until I watched one of your Trisha Videos and I had the epiphany. I was doing the same at a smaller scale with the people close to me and I was horrified. I apologized, increased my meds, set up an ppt with my doctor and I intend to go back to dbt. I don't want to lash out at other people. That is the worst sin to me. to make my trauma someone else's problem, especially if they're friends and fam.
I quote that line from Greek Wedding allll the time.
Love the tea pot!!!
This was fab!
The way I see and experience gender has always confused me; when I was a teen I thought I was gender fluid because according to tumblr you HAD to be if you experienced masc and fem energy 😂 I now know I’m a woman because I am and also cause I wanna be. But it has informed my sexuality too that’s why I’ve picked the pan label so I can comfortably fit into the queer spaces I love in my community (ie clubs, dating, all that)
loved this one a lot
Yay!! I am so appreciative that everyone heard me out!
Have you heard the term Demi-girl? I identify with most of your experience and if I was told to think really really hard about my gender that’s probably what I would settle on. Honestly hearing you describe feeling stupid dressed as a girl and feeling good talking among the men when you were young makes me think you processed the pros and cons of both gender roles and decided it’s better to be a man. Honestly I fully agree, getting to pick and choose between gender role to maximize benefits and minimize drawbacks is the shit :)
Researching gender is a worthless activity I think. Like researching race. The disciplines have become so dominated by activists who use them to advance their politics that research is pointless. When you are researching in today's word all you're doing is reading one side's propaganda. You're not actually learning anything true and useful. I find the content of the podcast interesting, I am just reacting to the bit in the beginning where she says she researched gender. I think in today's society research has taken a back seat to propaganda. "Researchers" don't seek facts, they seek a means of justifying their predetermined conclusions. This makes their findings worthless in terms of research. As just one example, you can point to the way that the fact that the majority of young trans people no longer feel trans when they are adults has been suppressed. So researching trans issues in young people is corrupted by the politics of trans activists who don't want detransitioning to be highlighted. Another example would be the relationship of race and IQ. It's impossible to research this because it has been deemed de facto racist to consider the issue. So if you want to research whether the brains of people of different races operate differently, you can't. Enough accurate information on the subject just doesn't exist because it has been deemed politically wrong to research that subject. I'm aware this comment is sounding anti-left wing but it really isn't my point to criticize the left per se. My intention is to criticize the politicization of education such that facts that don't agree with the mainstream opinion on a particular issue get de-emphasized making balanced investigation into any issue that is politically charged very difficult. On the right it could perhaps be gun violence where you might find facts and statistics distorted to make free and open gun ownership in society seem safer than it actually is. So I'm not saying it's an issue with any particular side of the political spectrum, I'm saying it's an issue with us as a society where we sort of broke barriers we shouldn't have broken. Not injecting politics into school curriculums, into business, into science, etc was a policy that everyone followed by instinct I think up until relatively recently when the polarization broke down those norms on both sides such that now even as the internet gives us access to an amount of information that would have been staggering to the imaginations of our ancestors, the quality of that information is on a downward trend.
I think further studying abstract concepts like gender might not be as helpful to a community but more to the individual who studies the degree in order to find some sort of validation, in that I agree. There are many social studies that could potentially help the community politically, fixing administrative procedures, financially supporting and directing resources to the necessary organizations to see actual growth in the most needed communities etc... Im not from the USA my viee might be different in thinking its ok to keep stugying anything as long as people keep studying, but then I know there are liberal agendas in most univerisites in the US and how these do have an impact in what you study and the debt the students are left with after if horrendous and after studying a super niche degree that no one is really looking for to employ, these stuudents end up working in dead end jobs and well... It all sounds pretty bad from where I stand...
Personally, I investigate gender and such to understand better trans people, with youtube is much easier to find real life experiences and therefore to humanize people. But I also get recommended a bunch of detrasitioning videos, so I don't know if they are truly suppressed. I agree you def can only research to confirm your reality, but that will depend on the person.
Science being is politicised and manipulated for people to leverage power. It is the age of enlightenment in reverse.
Drag is an art form of feminine expression. That's how I see drag. Some people are just aesthete's.
This is a Godsend!!!
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I hope you comment on this Britney! In my philosophical system which I’m calling elemental spirits energy. You are a Fire and earth spirit, the Fox! Grounded and intelligent being.
Sounds magical 💖
Fun fact there is no equivalent to the word gender in Arabic (:
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i think the crux of the issue with this debate stems from gender and identity being prioritized over the literal body. regardless of identity we exist (the vast majority) in male or female bodies; so to begin allowing males into sex segregated spaces starts eroding female rights and bodily autonomy and the ability to say no to who we share facilities and spaces with. if we include everyone on the basis of identity we revoke the rights of the majority, as seen in female-identifying inmates being allowed into female prisons, to the detriment of the inmates. Identity can exist so long as legislation does not neglect the reality of biology and the consequences therein. there have to be rules and definitions or else we all fall into postmodernism where everything is anything and everything is nothing
Well put there, follow lifeform! Couldn't put it any better mysel.
What is the reality of the biological? Even biological sex is a spectrum, you can have chromosomes outside of XX/XY, genitals that have a mix of male and female features, hormones that are between 'expected' levels, ect. There is no clear line to draw between male and female, and doing so will ultimately hurt people just existing in the body they were born in. For example, the Olympics banning naturally high testosterone women, which affected cis women, who now had to take medicine or lose their right to compete.
Also postmodernism? Are u a Jordan Peterson fan? Lmaooo rip I don't have time to unpack that mess
@@laniln the vast majority of people are very clearly male or female. people with intersex conditions are such a small minority to the point of statistical irrelevance. the logical conclusion to your argument is that we simply cannot define either male or female therefore might as well remove all sex segregated spaces to become unisex. as brittany said in this video, we have evolved over time and have developed the ability to tell the sexes apart as a crucial survival instinct because the lived reality of the male and female body is very different, regardless of whatever nonsense nuance you're trying to shoehorn in to erode basic common sense. next time a woman declares that a man makes her uncomfortable, make sure you march up to her and tell her she's a bigot who is lying about being able to visually identify the sex in front of her. just more of the same regressive progressivism
@@laniln also xxy but that's also male
What is the song at the end of the videos???
💕💕 love your brain!
I NEED TO meet this brother. He sounds hella interesting.
Maybe if you hadn't been raised in a home that allowed you to present masculine you would have needed to come out as trans. We both seem like aggressive people and I know if I had been repressed I would have burst out. I was also raised in a more traditional home where my parents enjoyed my masculinity because it meant I dressed very modestly. I liked being "misgendered" as a boy. I wanted to have short hair and be strong. I only wore boys clothes. I grew up and I wished I had a penis and a beard, large hands and narrow hips. I like that always, but I also embraced femininity as I grew up. Now I still want all those things but I also like having boobs and hips and long hair. I like wearing frilly dresses and heels too now. I do feel like a woman, probably because my behaviors were always allowed. Sometimes my parents would complain that I sat with my legs open or that I looked like a boy, but they also complained if I tried out makeup or tried dressing up (This is why I don't think it made an impact, I was used to them complaining about everything no matter what I did).
To put it in Brittany's language. Experiencing othering in your bubble (about your gender) might drive you to identify with a different bubble. Some people with trans experiences don't identify as trans because they feel perfectly accepted in their bubble and feel no need to.
Holy shit. I was talking to my husband about this just yesterday. I work with a non binary person that prefers they/then or He/him pronouns, sex is female but energy is so woman to me but a butch woman. I struggle with the pronouns, constantly correcting myself. Being gen x it can be different. I also work with a trans female and at first I was like is this person non binary until I was corrected and calling her a she was easy. Totally female energy
1:01:37 - BARBZ NATION RISE UP!!!!
Anyone know what's the song at the end? I can't find it and I must know!
It's my friends music ♡ She isn't public yet ♡
I love it! And you! I hope to hear more when she's ready to share....Just stumbled upon your channel this week and I'm already a fan
@@ashleigharnold7069 welcome Ashleigh!!! I'll tell her! I can't wait until she goes public!
gender is a matter of Becoming. not that people drastically change everything about their presentation or even feel radically different over time, but i am largely against the "born this way" narrative.
gender doesn't need a biological precedent. that's not to respond to the main arguments people make, but altogether there is no chemical x that decides(!) queerness of any kind. I say that because, from my xp, queerness is largely a choice. it's not a matter of choosing a b or c, but just kinda living and knowing that im open-minded about my interests.
speaking more politically, i can talk about cissexism-- the policing of all bodies (based on sex/gender). ive been politically motivated to seek contradiction within myself because i lost connection to existence as a cis woman. it's much more honest imo to accept one's multiplicity, but maybe that defies the use that ppl feel we have for gender as a language.
lastly, i think i said it already, but gender needn't be interesting. it can just "be." like, it takes so little to be trans and people really refuse themselves the label because they feel they need to suffer for it or smth. you don't need surgery or hormones or even new pronouns to blur definitions of your being. it's like giving yourself the permission to expand your understanding what it means to be you.
idk ive met very queer cis people too so 🤷🏽
tl;dr notice the contradictions and balance them. embrace them!
idk im trying to not sell the trans agenda but also it's not the label that i think is necessary for ppl to feel freer but the act of doing what you're talking about-- "i feel a but also b so i respond to that by doing z" and i think that's what queerness is all about, being and becoming
I love the way you think. Very ENFP. Great vid
One total side comment -- I thought people of middle eastern ethnicities are considered racially white ? Anyway, looking fwd to watching more of your podcasts!
I'm An ENTJ so love the ENFP vibes❤ Middle Eastern people, like gender, are complicated haha We are racially white, but in the states considered not white (in most contexts).
@@BrittanySimon ah, I see! Thanks for the response. 🤗
@@BrittanySimon There are many middle-eastern people who are brown and dark skinned who aren't considered white at all by most standards (including mine). Not everyone in the middle east has pale skin.
Off topic but I’m wondering how a five can not believe in god (no problem with. Makes sense) but can be patriotic (also no problem with). Just wondering what the difference is there. I guess you don’t know god exists but you do know a country exists. But do countries really exist? Like on some level? And how can we feel loyalty to or pride in an arbitrarily defined group of people that may or not have that much in common with us?
Patriotism is a concept I have always really struggled with. The idea of being fiercely loyal to a country because you were born there or live there just seems so illogical. My loyalties have always been to individual people, friends + family, and I have never been able to wrap my head around the patriotism thing. I like the country where I live fine enough, but “patriotism” just seems odd to me.
Your awesome !
Are female lions trans?
i still need to finish listening to this but it's been extremely based so far, i'm sure it will all be, but i gotta wait to finish the rest.