6 ex-EL SD45-2's in 8th notch on a coal train. Carroltown & Cresson, PA. 11/13/1990
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- The first clip the 3 Conrail, ex-EL SD45-2 lead a coal train on the branch at Carroltown heading for the mainline at Cresson. As he approaches the crossing, a vehicle pulls up to the tracks, and then has to back away from the crossing to avoid being hit by the train. The horns are in need of attention, as they do sound hideous. We then head to Cresson, and catch a east bound trailer train and watch him disappear past MO tower. The big SD45-2's pass overhead. We then watch a west bound empty hopper train leaded by two Conrail SD40-2's. As the rear pushers get ready to pass over the top of the mainline, a set of helpers glide past. It was a pretty busy 5 minutes at Cresson, PA. Video was taken in November 13, 1990. Thanks for watching. Jackmp294.5™...
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I remember the first time I saw EL Sd45s, had to be 1975/76 along the Montclair line. At the time were probably the largest locos I had ever seen (I was around 12yrs), you could hears them a mile away if they were working upgrade. 40 something years later I'd still occasionally catch NS 1700/1701 lugging grain over the Kittatinny Ridge on the Portland Secondary. Great video, thanks for the memories.
This is the Conrail that people miss, I think. I sure can understand why. Awesome.
Yes we miss Conrail very much
No matter what color of paint they ended up wearing, I will always remember them in Erie Lackawanna colors on the point of high-priority trains like 2nd New York 100!
I'm also from Carrolltown and I recognized this as the Syberton crossing of Rt. 53. It's not the Cresson Branch but the Irvona Sub which enters the Main Line at almost the same spot as the Cresson Branch. This line is still active and is used by NS. The Cresson Branch is now owned by RJ Corman although the extension line from Bradley Junction through the Tunnel near Carrolltown was abandoned years ago.
Jack, excellent video man! I loved how Conrail was going over Conrail! You put a smile on my face, because this was awesome!
That was one creepy horn. Sounded like a coyote and a sick goose. That would sound even scarier at night.
Yo that is one loaded push / pull coal to train. Notched out . nice footage.
Excellent video Jack! Just when I thought I've seen all of your Horseshoe Curve area videos. This one turns up on You Tube! I grew up with the Erie Lackawanna. With Denville NJ only being 4 miles from our house in Parsippany. My friend and I would ride our bicycles there before we could drive. And we would see all 3 type's of there SD45s there. Then in 1980 was our first time to the Horseshoe Curve area. And we weren't disappointed. We were thrilled to see Ex EL SD45-2s in helper service! Though they were no longer in EL livery they it was a bit like the old days when these reliable locomotives were used in mainline freight service. And this video most certainly brought back a lot of EL and CONRAIL memories! Thankfully NS still has 5 still in service! And 1700 being repainted in EL livery! And is a Heritage unit!
pretty cool--like this. If I was filthy rich and had lots of land, I would own a running SD-45-2 and painted in CR and 4 miles of track
Lotta memories, grew up as a kid along the Pittsburgh line, 1987 - 1993, my earliest train memories were moves of old coal hoppers that still had RDG and PC markings on them. And the old trailer train "front runners" before spline cars came along.
Doesn't seem all that long ago. But now just a memory Paul. Thanks goodness there is all this video out there to remember what it was like. Thanks for watching...
Thanks Jack. Dash2 45s, whether tunnel motor or not, just had a certain howl to them.
Fantastic. RIP coal. RIP Clearfield cluster. RIP CR.
40 years ago or so these units were on high priority trains rolling across Indiana towards Chicago.. The EL passed not too far from me but i was only 2 when it was folded into Conrail...
Man, I love your videos! Every time I open YT and I see that you've uploaded something, a smile is on my face :)
I never knew Cresson had a train bridge that went over, I went on maps and it looks like there's still trackage in use that joins the RJ Corman. Me being born in 2001, and being 20 years old now, I've only seen patched Conrail locos in blue paint. I still miss Conrail to this day.
Thanks for the info MrL. Glad to hear that they are still hagging in there after 40 years...
jeez, I used to hike and hunt by those tracks in the first clip. lived by Loretto, PA from 1973 to 1991. In the 70s that line there was busy.
I know several guys that work for NS and they see them now and then. My front porch is 23' away from the CSX mainline, and they must have theirs in hidding somewhere. I haven't seen a CSX SD45-2 in years. I do have a few video clips of CSX ones in the collection somewhere on my chanel. Thanks for watching...
Now that was a great catch!
Classic video
Wow, such great footage. To think at one point Conrail would have been common... and at one point in the video you had three trains going there! Nice work Jack, always looking forward to your videos in the subscriptions.
That's cool trains over the top of each other reminds me of the Utah Railway in the mid 80,s and early 90,s with there old 45s the sound is great
Makes me wish that the clock could be turned back to the days of Conrail.
Me to Allen. I sure wish we could go back. Thank goodness for videos like these so we can re-live these days. Thanks for watching...
Thanks for the up-date AmtrakSS. I didn't think CSX was still running them, as I haven't seen one in a loooong time... Thanks for watching...
I think I found the spot on the Google Earth, which means it actually isn't Carrolltown. Let me know what you think. This might have been the crossing of Gallitzin Rd (53) at Syberton as the roads and location looks similar to the video. We shot trains on the main line, so we didn't see this happen, But, maybe the coal train got on the main, passed the helper terminal and then backed around the Y at Gallitzin, then reverse direction again, and passes over the top to head east. What do you think?
Must be the case. Was the video originally labeled "Carroltown" or something? Why were people saying this was Carroltown in the first place?
Was erie lackawana the only railroad that purchased a shit ton of SD45-2s?
Total of 136 built. Santa Fe had a ton of them. AT&SF had 90, Clinchfield 18, EL 13, Seaboard 15...
i found it today, on the Irvona Secondary. Me & BF chased train from Falling timber and we found this spot closely lookin at the tracks. It ok if it not C-Town. Great spot today :D ill add the video in few days,
Yes, we know that the coal train add to pass over the mainline, and waited for it. This overpass is now gone, and also MO tower, is long gone. I'll have to check out your Conrail tribute. I was going to do one of my own, as I got 1000's of Conrail slides that I had taken over the years...
I love those bucket loader loads
Beautiful video Jack!
Michael, I am pretty sure that the NS has 6 SD45-2's in service, but derated to 3000hp. 1700-1705. I don't think CSX has any left on the roster. Not sure about any other roads. There where a lot on the Santa Fe, but pretty sure BNSF has retired all of them...
Beautiful power!
Great over & under action there! Did you know that was gonna occur or was it coincidence? I started railfanning Horseshoe Curve in the early 80s but haven't visited Cresson proper yet. I'd like to get up there again when I can. If you're interested-I recently posted a slide show containing some Horseshoe action from the early 80s Conrail days and containing other rarities too. Do you happen to remember the PRR Aero-Train? Photo of it in Altoona in the aforementioned slide show.
Jack have you seen the beautiful SD45-2 Erie Lackawanna heritage engine painted by Norfolk Southern it's #1700
R.I.P Conrail
Do you remember WHERE exactly you got the CR train near Carrolltown? I live in Ctown but theres not tracks directly (abandoned) to Cresson. Love the old EL's :D
I have been all over the mapquest maps try to find the exact location with no luck. This was taken 23 years ago, and everything is grown up now, but its a good bet that the tracks are gone. Where ever they loaded at, it appears to have been loaded by a front end loader, and not a tipple. We wheren't to far out of Cresson, as we had no problem getting past him, and shot him again going over the mainline. Sorry I couldn't help more.
Is that overhead mainline in the second clip still there today?
No Taz. It was taken out shortly after this video when conrail did their clearance project for the doublr stacks. Thanks for watching...
thanks Jack I appreciate it! :) I was baffled by that one. Do you know what it looks now presently?
Several SD45-2's are still working on both NS and CSX. They were originally Erie-Lackawanna units.
There are currently no active SD45s on CSX's roster. There is one retired CSX SD45 used as a training tool at the Atlanta REDI center.
Amazing how much as changed
Nothing stays the same. Its a shame.
Bad ass!!!
Great coal train
Hey Jack is the SD45-2' Engine's not in Use Anymore ?
Michael Scott
actually csx has a couple downgraded to SD40-2's 8886 and 8889 i believe, but they're both stored as well i believe
To 1990scottsdale, You'd change your mind in a DAMN QUICK hurry if you ever saw the EL.
I wish I'd seen Conrail and Erie-Lackawanna.
westpoint64 I truly wished you had too! I grew up not far from Denville NJ my friends and I would ride our bicycles there.And Man quite a show of MUs and Push pulls! But most importantly ERIE LACKAWANNA FREIGHTS! ONE COULD SEE 2-3 FRIEGHTS IN AN AFTERNOON! WITH SD45s SDP45s OR SD45-2s WITH EITHER A U33 OR U36C MIXED IN! USUALLY CS-9 WAS THE MOST COMMON TRAIN!
BUT TODAY ALL YOU SEE THERE IS NS HO2 LOCAL OR THE MORRISTOWN & ERIE C424 #18 OR 19 RETURNING HOME! PLUS A LOT OF NJ TRANSIT ACTIVITY! H
SIGH.I MISS THE ERIE LACKAWANNA! BUT NS HAS RESTORED #1700 AN SD45-2 INTO ITS EL LIVERY! AND THEY HAVE 4MORE SD45-2S STILL ACTIVE THOUGH IN NS PAINT!
good video, also its older then me lol
BNSF still has them on they're roster.
I found Bradley Jntn. I live in Carrolltown & this is out in East Carroll Township. I have a rough guess where this is on the Secondary.
Hey Jack, why do the sd45-2's look like sd40-2's?
different radiator shape and size
Alrighty.👍
I wish I couldv'e seen conrail -_-
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