Love the video Will, your Chinese has been one of the most inspirational things I have encountered on my learning journey. I started in April 2023 and just dabbled before deciding to travel to china in November 2023. Besides being able to say “老板我要一份牛肉面条” I really couldn’t communicate many basic thoughts. After the trip and learning about input I’ve seen a massive improvement just by watching Netflix with mandarin, pinyin, and English subtitles for 1-4 hours per day. Depending how much I can get away with outside my responsibilities. I’m going to try to type out some thoughts without any help and come back to this comment next year to see the improvement so please ignore the absence of grammar and absence of correct word choice in the passage below 😂 我也觉得你的学习目标是非常重要。本来我的目标是太容易比如说… 我要点咖啡用中文… 为了完成这个目标你就是学习每天一些分钟。 我完成我的目标的时间我发现了我会不高心，我还要学习更多东西。我的现在的目标是用中文谈论所有的话题。 学了大概十个月以后我发现了为了完成我真的目标我需要学习每天超过三小时… 我知道我已经写错了很多、虽然我的语法特别差…但是我越来越进步 谢谢大哥
Great video Will… thank you! It seems the best strategy is indeed a combination of the two and the 6 to 4 ratio makes sense. I have attracted to myself an excellent language partner from China whom I meet with at 10 PM California time for an hour and a half every evening. His level of English is of course, much higher than my level of Mandarin, but he’s given me a strategy to excel to a point to where I can be at his level… I don’t want to mention the strategy now, but if it works, I’ll let you know lol ha ha 😊 Thanks again for the great motivation and inspiration. Best, Daniel
I am currently learning only vocabulary (characters ), I already know many radicals and a few components, and I increase it naturally when I check the words components.I need to learn at least 300-500 words, because I hate to search for the meaning of all words when I'm reading. Of course I'm not speaking yet. 🤣 I have learned about a hundred... 👍
Will all good but that's interesting what you think about Stephen Krashen hypothesis that "speaking doesn't make you better at speaking"? Also do you know the guy "Matt vs. Japan"? The way he learned Japanese is only by immersion without speaking for couple years, would be really interesting to watch how you interview him and you discuss your language learning journeys!!
I think that speaking does help with speaking and there are researchers other than Krashen who think the same, but I also agree that input is really important. I know Matt and his story, he first had traditional Japanese lessons before then immersing for multiple years before reaching a near native level, also his method is much more complicated than 'just immerse'. Matt explains his other methods e.g. sentence mining in detail on his channel. We are actually hopefully going to do a video together at some point!
Love the video Will, your Chinese has been one of the most inspirational things I have encountered on my learning journey. I started in April 2023 and just dabbled before deciding to travel to china in November 2023. Besides being able to say “老板我要一份牛肉面条” I really couldn’t communicate many basic thoughts.
After the trip and learning about input I’ve seen a massive improvement just by watching Netflix with mandarin, pinyin, and English subtitles for 1-4 hours per day. Depending how much I can get away with outside my responsibilities.
I’m going to try to type out some thoughts without any help and come back to this comment next year to see the improvement so please ignore the absence of grammar and absence of correct word choice in the passage below 😂
我也觉得你的学习目标是非常重要。本来我的目标是太容易比如说… 我要点咖啡用中文… 为了完成这个目标你就是学习每天一些分钟。
我完成我的目标的时间我发现了我会不高心，我还要学习更多东西。我的现在的目标是用中文谈论所有的话题。
学了大概十个月以后我发现了为了完成我真的目标我需要学习每天超过三小时…
我知道我已经写错了很多、虽然我的语法特别差…但是我越来越进步
谢谢大哥
Wish you all the best 加油！
看到你的中文评论后，我在反思我自己学习英语的过程，虽然你评论每个句子都稍微有点儿问题，需要修改。已经过去8个月了，如果你重新把你的评论再写一遍，是不是会变的更好了。到时可以分享一下学习心得。
Great video Will… thank you! It seems the best strategy is indeed a combination of the two and the 6 to 4 ratio makes sense. I have attracted to myself an excellent language partner from China whom I meet with at 10 PM California time for an hour and a half every evening. His level of English is of course, much higher than my level of Mandarin, but he’s given me a strategy to excel to a point to where I can be at his level… I don’t want to mention the strategy now, but if it works, I’ll let you know lol ha ha 😊
Thanks again for the great motivation and inspiration.
Best,
Daniel
Looking forward to your update Daniel!
这些建议固然有益，不过究竟输入何种水平的内容，往往被学习者所忽略（亲身经历）。初学者自不量力地去寻找母语级别的内容，输出的时候十有八九都会给学习者带来挫败感，会给学习热情泼了冷水。所以说，学语言要因人制宜、循序渐进才是王道。只要是适合外语学习者水准的内容，那么输出的比例可以增多，放胆地去输出；而反过来，如果内容的难度较大，查询的单词占比较多，则可以考虑多输入，少输出。总之：学习材料越简单，便越需要输出。
I am currently learning only vocabulary (characters ), I already know many radicals and a few components, and I increase it naturally when I check the words components.I need to learn at least 300-500 words, because I hate to search for the meaning of all words when I'm reading. Of course I'm not speaking yet. 🤣 I have learned about a hundred... 👍
Wish you all the best!
@@willhartmandarin 谢谢，现在我很开心！ 我想老天 to bless 你. ❤️👍 。。。
Will all good but that's interesting what you think about Stephen Krashen hypothesis that "speaking doesn't make you better at speaking"? Also do you know the guy "Matt vs. Japan"? The way he learned Japanese is only by immersion without speaking for couple years, would be really interesting to watch how you interview him and you discuss your language learning journeys!!
Krashen not speak chinese, the boy in the video can. Krashen need to learn with this guy...
I think that speaking does help with speaking and there are researchers other than Krashen who think the same, but I also agree that input is really important. I know Matt and his story, he first had traditional Japanese lessons before then immersing for multiple years before reaching a near native level, also his method is much more complicated than 'just immerse'. Matt explains his other methods e.g. sentence mining in detail on his channel. We are actually hopefully going to do a video together at some point!
@@willhartmandarin thank you for your reply!
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