I appreciate your balanced perspective here! So much of the dialog online around this is about "the one true way" to learn and if you're doing anything else, you're wasting your time or worse damaging yourself permanently.
True, although the online language learning community is plagued by 'experts" and charlatans, vast majority giving out really dubious advice. As a rule of thumb I don't trust anyone selling a course. Thus I can see why people learning languages are the way they are. The comprehensible input gang being the most insufferable.
@@twodyport8080 It makes sense to be skeptical. My rule of thumb is be careful trusting the methods of someone who's never achieved a high level of success themselves.
Good thoughts, Will. Thanks. I'm learning Spanish but I'm pretty lazy. I dabble with input mostly - I always have on Spanish CC on my TV shows, read Bible in Spanish at English church service and try to keep reading other books in Spanish, too. Output - love using Spanish when we go to Latin America and visiting with Latino friends in Texas. Occasionally, I do online 1-1 classes with a mix of conversation and explanations on whatever I'm struggling with.
I think I'm like you, I'm trying to mix all these method together, but also I need make some adjustments to speed up the improvement speed. Can I ask you how much time have you spent every day to study chinese? That is the same language I need to learn
Me trying Will's approach: OK I'm going to watch some RUclips video now...wait I should be making flashcards while doing this...and then I will have to make sentences??? I guess I'm not watching RUclips anymore :D
My first language was German. I was a very bad student and so it wasn’t a huge surprise that the classroom didn’t work well for me. I heard that reading was a great way to learn a language so I gave that a try and it worked for me. I wanted to speak to people so much and so tried it as much as I could. It was ok but not so good and not living in Germany there also wasn’t lots of opportunities to speak to people anyway. I the reason I started studying in the first place was to speak to people but in the end I found I really liked reading books in German more than talking to people. So that’s pretty much all I did. You might think that speaking is what you want but later discover that listening , reading or whatever is actually more your thing. Am I introverted? I think most people will say yes. But I don’t know if labels are really very accurate. If I can find someone who actually wants to listen to me then I can talk for a long time. I think I’m just a bit sensitive as to whether the person I’m talking to actually wants to listen or not. No idea what it’s like for other “introverts”.
Hi Will I’m making chinese cloze cards with anki but i find the word is not going into my active vocabulary, its only when i read the prompt by reading the start of the sentence. Ive tried making different sentences with the same word but still the same. Any ideas?
Try and use the word more in conversations. You could even consider adding some sentence cards that contain the word which are english to chinese, that way you won't be relying on the start of the sentence to help with recall. Let me know how you get on!
I think this is a bit of a superficial discussion about methods. I found the methods that work for me are ones that fit into my schedule, (and thus easier to form a habit) not to do with my personality.You also missed out on some of the best methods. I like the message you signed off with though. Design a method that works for you. Learn how to learn.
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That's a very good categorization. As an introvert, my choice is obvious.
I appreciate your balanced perspective here! So much of the dialog online around this is about "the one true way" to learn and if you're doing anything else, you're wasting your time or worse damaging yourself permanently.
True, although the online language learning community is plagued by 'experts" and charlatans, vast majority giving out really dubious advice. As a rule of thumb I don't trust anyone selling a course.
Thus I can see why people learning languages are the way they are. The comprehensible input gang being the most insufferable.
@@twodyport8080 It makes sense to be skeptical. My rule of thumb is be careful trusting the methods of someone who's never achieved a high level of success themselves.
Good thoughts, Will. Thanks. I'm learning Spanish but I'm pretty lazy. I dabble with input mostly - I always have on Spanish CC on my TV shows, read Bible in Spanish at English church service and try to keep reading other books in Spanish, too. Output - love using Spanish when we go to Latin America and visiting with Latino friends in Texas. Occasionally, I do online 1-1 classes with a mix of conversation and explanations on whatever I'm struggling with.
Very insightful. If you get tired of medicine you would make an excellent teacher 😂
Thanks that's very kind of you
I think I'm like you, I'm trying to mix all these method together, but also I need make some adjustments to speed up the improvement speed. Can I ask you how much time have you spent every day to study chinese? That is the same language I need to learn
Me trying Will's approach:
OK I'm going to watch some RUclips video now...wait I should be making flashcards while doing this...and then I will have to make sentences??? I guess I'm not watching RUclips anymore :D
I would say just make a quick note of what you want to learn and have a set time to make flashcards haha not at the same time as watching youtube
I have a weird habit of drawing lines in my mind when speaking Mandarin... Not sure how to fix it and relax when speaking...
My first language was German. I was a very bad student and so it wasn’t a huge surprise that the classroom didn’t work well for me. I heard that reading was a great way to learn a language so I gave that a try and it worked for me. I wanted to speak to people so much and so tried it as much as I could. It was ok but not so good and not living in Germany there also wasn’t lots of opportunities to speak to people anyway. I the reason I started studying in the first place was to speak to people but in the end I found I really liked reading books in German more than talking to people. So that’s pretty much all I did. You might think that speaking is what you want but later discover that listening , reading or whatever is actually more your thing. Am I introverted? I think most people will say yes. But I don’t know if labels are really very accurate. If I can find someone who actually wants to listen to me then I can talk for a long time. I think I’m just a bit sensitive as to whether the person I’m talking to actually wants to listen or not. No idea what it’s like for other “introverts”.
Really interesting to hear your thoughts!
Hi Will I’m making chinese cloze cards with anki but i find the word is not going into my active vocabulary, its only when i read the prompt by reading the start of the sentence. Ive tried making different sentences with the same word but still the same. Any ideas?
Try and use the word more in conversations. You could even consider adding some sentence cards that contain the word which are english to chinese, that way you won't be relying on the start of the sentence to help with recall. Let me know how you get on!
你好呀！有个问题， 为了添加中文字幕你用什么软件? 🤔🙏
我一般用B剪或剪映剪视频，这两个软件都有自动加字幕的功能
@@willhartmandarin 好的好的，非常感谢！
I think this is a bit of a superficial discussion about methods. I found the methods that work for me are ones that fit into my schedule, (and thus easier to form a habit) not to do with my personality.You also missed out on some of the best methods.
I like the message you signed off with though. Design a method that works for you. Learn how to learn.
Would you care to name more methods?
@Reflekt0r Scriptorium