Val: Angel! You get your sweet *bleep* over here before I- Angel: *sipping on a fruity mix drink* *throws a cackling Niffty at Val* Val: *high pitched shrieking* Niffty: *gremlin cackling*
lol, I wouldn’t want this to be Val’s end since it’s so funny despite Val being a seriously bad person, but that would be really funny! I’d love it if Charlie wants Angel back from work early maybe so he can help that plan something against the Vees and that his way of getting off early 😂
@@randomdoggo9489 in high school, one of my psych meds was REALLY hard. And only the name brand worked on me- I had taken the cheaper kind and it didn’t work. It HAD to be this specific brand or I was a nightmare to deal with. Well, of course, the insurance company tried to fight this tooth and nail. They needed a letter from my psychologist to explain why I need X brand and couldn’t take Y brand. Well, the lady sending out those letters got backed up often, making it so that I wouldn’t get my meds for a week or more. Long enough for it to work out of my system. I was an absolute terror because I wasn’t on my meds. On top of that, I was going through withdrawal symptoms because these meds were so hard and I was so dependent on them. So that cranked my attitude up a lot. My mom had to fight the insurance company every month. The pharmacy, of course, couldn’t even give me a couple days worth of meds to hold me over. Well, one time, it took almost a month to get my meds filled. My mom was on the phone with the insurance company every day. She finally had enough a told them “my teenage daughter has mental health issues and NEEDS those pills! She hasn’t had them for almost a month! I’m about ready to kill her because of how she’s acting without her medicine! So either fill it or I’m sending her to your office for YOU to deal with!” It got filled pretty fast after that and between the insurance company, the psychiatrist, the pharmacy, and mom, they set it up so that my mom could order my meds a week before I was out.
Oops! Did I strike a nerve? Cuz when I brought out the angel's head, couldn't help but observe that your wrinkled face was turning red. And why are YOU avoiding war? That's what the guns you sell are for. Thanks to my being respectless, one thing I'm starting to suspect is you know why this angel's headless? Do you have a disclosure? (Sorry I can't help it, I got Respectless jammed into my head, it's just so catchy)
@@korkshingucci4064there’s a person on here that does like… “corrected” and “literal” versions of the Hazbin songs, i think the channel is called Cinnamunch but if you just search “*song name* but literal” they should pop up… they’ve done “respectless” twice and they both kill me. In one version, she’s just like “I’m sorry, I have not had breakfast” amd idk why but it CRACKS ME UP every damn time.
The radio demon, the princess of hell, the king of hell, an ex exterminator, a former overlord, and a tiny being that murdered the first man on earth/the leader of the exorcist army. That enough should be enough info on why a trio of childish, spoiled, and idiotic overlords are most likely fucked.
@@hobbitshole lol yes, just goes to show how fucked the three of them are with the amount of people they’ve gotta cross. (Ps: not just the Tommy guns, but six arms to use them with 💀)
Also let's not forget velvette is probably really weak as an overlord From what we learn the most powerful overlords are the oldest ones But velvette isn't all that old since she calls zestial a grandpa And also uses a phone In respectless We can see she's the internet persona of the vees Meaning she's probably the youngest overlord Since the other overlords are way older
the vees aren't even overlords: just loser,overlord wannabes trying to be hot shit in a world that is WAY more powerful than them. honestly,if it weren't for mothman and TV head being so objectively horrible,they might have been endearing,like the team rocket trio of hazbin hotel.
Val mentioned that Vox was almost beaten by Alastor. I think the reason that didn’t happen was because Vel and Val stepped in. Alone, they’re nothing, but as a trio, they may actually be a force to be reckoned with.
Well, to be fair, that wasn't their fight, so it makes sense why they wouldn't take part in it aside from watching the whole thing go down due to their hate boners.
@@RandomDrawer_tm Lol excuse and yes it was technically their fight Velvette herself tried to call out the other Ovedrlords for not fighting back after finding out the angels could be killed sorry but the Vs are hypocrites for hiding out.
@@MultiMoe11 that was vel though, neither Vox or Val cared about the meeting or the angels the only reason why vel even suggested fighting back was to be rambunctious and get on carmines nerves and boost her ego as an overlord. So my point still stands.
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 it has been shown that Vox can transform his body into electricity and travel through the electrical network. Maybe Alastor can trick him and make him travel to an special electronic device that doesn't allow him to escape again (and seeing how Alastor created his own camera in the first chapter, it doesn't sound too crazy that he could create something to trap him, or at least that's what I think lol).
I hope that after the battle at the hotel, Charlie will finally learn that she needs to use her authority and her powers to assert herself. She doesnt like being mean and sgressive but she needs to know that there are times when that is needed.
She needs to learn that you can be assertive without being those things as well. Her dad asserted himself to Lute (with some slight intimidation since it was a battle) and even he said “please”.
@@hobbitsholeThis reminds me of Thorfin from the Vinland Saga. Why did you decide that you won’t even hit anyone anymore? Torfin, fuck, you can be a pacifist and fight without killing
@@kfphunter1315 pacifism is not about non violence, it's about avoiding it, Aang is a pacifist but won't go around searching for flights but nor does he let the opponent beat him
Honestly, the only way I can see the Vees upping the Hotel and thus, Lucifer, is the fact that they have one little, tiny thing Charlie wouldn't want harmed no matter what.... Angel's soul. I don't think Val was buffing when he told Angel that Charlie couldn't do anything about his contract- the Overlords seem to LITERALLY own their victim's soul- Alastor threatened Husk to "tear his soul to shreds" and as powerful Lucifer can be- I really doubt he can just....restore an damaged soul, and considering how Vox is all too happy to put cameras on Angel's room wan watch as he gets violently throw around and worse by his boyfriend- I really doubt he would have any squealms to use Spider Boy as a meat shield.
That sadly seems plausable. Since Angel is able to utilize a loop hole in his soul contract I.E. Val only has control of him at the studio or when he's on the clock for the studio. But off hours, Val has no claims to him. If Val begins to realize that Angel is no longer under his control, he may resort to breaking or destroying Angel's soul so no one has him. Or he might utilize the loop hole that Angel is his property to do as he wishes while at the studio, and may hold Angel hostage there.
I have a theory that any soul contract made by 2 parties can only be nullified by the Deadly Sin controlling the ring the contract was made in. In this case Lucifer. However, repairing a damaged soul is probably outside of his wheel house.
i think it was,indeed a bluff. charlie is the princess of hell and her father is the king: if she were to actually use that power,she could have forced the contract to be voided/force angel dust's soul to be released over the treat of death. sure,the mothy bastard would likely TRY to use him as a meat shield but the likeliness of it actually working is slim. the vees don't respect charlie at all so they are all ultra cocky about what they assume is her inability to stop them but i think if she actually asserted herself,she would without much problem because all of them technically belong to her and her father.
The Vee's song makes perfect sense even up until Alastor is revealed to be alive. That is because Alastor fled, and because he fled he showed weakness. That is something they could exploit simply because Alastor has always comported himself as powerful, in control, and unflappable.
Makes perfect sense honestly, of course they’d want to exploit the fact that Alastor fled the battle and from the V’s perspective, showed obvious weakness, even if there are some other aspects of the situation that they really should’ve paid more attention to.
There IS a popular theory that Lilith made a deal with him. I personally like to think A pastor tried to get the upper hand of the deal, and Lilith showed him who's boss.
@@VioletFruitTreetrue, but being defeated by one of the most powerful beings in existence just shows that Alistair isn't almighty. The fact he was even able to walk away alive is incredibly impressive. It took Lucifer himself to defeat Adam. That's not going to significantly undermine the fear in Alistair.
I found it creepy how Lucifer went full (reminding viewers he's the devil) when he got serious in his fight with Adam. I'd really like that to be explained more since this contradicts the story behind his personality in Hazbin lore.
@@ProtoAlphaI mean, if your beloved daughter’s life were at stake and this douchebag (Adam) was gloating at her weakness, I think most parents would have gone full devil long before Lucifer started playing with Adam.
@@saimaidar9417 Okay, I get that, but he was seriously enjoying hurting Adam, and Charlie legitimately had to tell him to stop. I also noticed he acted a tad unnerved when Charlie tried to get his support for the hotel, like he was uncomfortable around the sinners. I think there was a point he tried to do what Charlie did (he mentioned this) but the stress caused him to snap and you know "act irl lore accurate" he soon calms down let's the sinners do their own thing abd the rest is history.
@@ProtoAlpha Remember Charlie was apologizing to the Angels during the fight she has issues with hurting others and would have likely preferred her father to quickly finish Adam off or make him flee not drag things out like he was doing.
I never realized until you pointed that the V's song doesn't make too much sense but i think either they have a really great plan stored that we will see unfold or they know something we as the audience or they're really idiots
basically, the Vees are heavily implied (if not outright confirmed) to be only on the level of the other Overlords due to them working together, none of them have been shown to be direct physical threats as of yet. and they all have been shown to be impulsive at time; Val rips assaults or even rips apart his employees over petty reasons, Vox caused a blackout trying to shit talk Alastor and Velvet insulted several Overlords (but mostly focused on Carmilla and Zestial) to their face during a meeting. I don't see them surviving season 2 unscathed. maybe season 3.
Yeah, not to mention that Alastor was also present at the meeting and he along with Zestial and Carmilla wouldn't have esitated to shred Velvette to barely recognizable pieces for her stunt.
@@Goc4everthey have been confirmed to be the main antagonists of the second season, in the third it will be time to give space to Lilith and other angels maybe and as with Adam who was the main enemy of the first season I think that the bad guys will be self-contained (dead) season by season, without Valentino diced or defeated in one way or another Angelo cannot go down to Heaven because his soul is bound
@@maozedong4010Viv confirmed in an interview that the Vees will be the primary antagonists of Season 2. Lilith and Lute may be doing stuff in the background but the Vees are going to be the main obstacle
Velvette seems less evil than the other two. Just kinda egotistical. Though admittedly she had less interatcion with others, and unlike the other two, she isn't a direct antagonist to one of the leads. As for the assault plan Velvette mentioned, The Overlords didn't give her the time of day, so they probably just didn't go through with it. I doubt it was a plan for just the three of them, especially since they didn't learn HOW the angel was killed. Plus if they knew the Hotel was the target, possibly because of Charlie clearly bringing the Cannibals to the hotel for the fight, Vox would likely WANT to watch from a distance, hoping theyd finish off Alastor for him. Though it seems a bit odd Val seemed pretty unconcerned with Angel being involved in the fight, since Angel clearly makes him a lot of money.
Velvet makes date rape drug's. It's actually in the background in the 2nd episode. And it's the same one those shark mob's planned to use to rape angel she's just as bad she's just better at presenting herself as a boss bitch, and her actions are more subtle, bet you half of the people who work for val where drugged up by velvet then raped by val.
I wouldn’t say she’s all too egotistical(at least not as much as it seems). The one real appearance we have of her which is at the overlord meeting she was trying to get under carmillas skin so she could see if she was hiding anything, which she succeeded in proving. I think that a lot of what she said in that scene was her trying to piss her off. Like how she kept insulting zestiel and the other overlords.(And coming for zestiel like that isn’t even just being dumb, it’s almost suicidal. Also carmilla respects most of the overlords there and wants the space to be diplomatic, which velvet especially threatens) She is definitely pretty arrogant tho, believing that none of the overlords would attack her. Plus she IS one of the V’s so arrogance is a given
A theory I like is that when Carmella said to fight with love, she litterally meant that love is the way to best an angel. Angelic steel is just a buff. That also explains why Alastor got his ass kicked.
Let’s forget about the fact that Alastor, Charlie, and Lucifer, would body all three of them if they even tried attacking the hotel or cuasing trouble that would hurt the hotel. Even if they survive such a fight, the political and social consequences would be severe. Attacking the King and Princess of Hell? The Vees would loose a lot of their power. Lucifer could have connections that he could influence to put the Vees out of business. Delegating social media, tv, and adult entertainment to other Overlords. Or, just order the rest of the Overlords to put their house in order. They can’t say “no” to Lucifer without sever consequences. Besides that, while Alastor is weakened, as well as his pride, they could piss the Radio Demon off enough to gradually dismantle the Vees operation. They’re about to kick a hornet’s nest, and the nest will obliterate them.
Don't forget to mention that NOT EVERY sinner in the hazbin hotel universe arenot hostile to Charlie's Hotel i might see protest at one of the Vees operations ordinary sinners standing up
I agree, if the Vees would decide to defy Lucifer and Charlie as well as attacking the Hazbin Hotel their fate would be already sealed: they would have Lucifer, Charlie and the other Overlords'(especially Carmilla and Zestial's) wrath coming down on them and the Vees can bid farewell to both their lives and media empire.
I mean, Katie Killjoy literally attacked Charlie on television and got away with it scott-free in the pilot. People forget how little _anyone_ respects the royal family, let alone Charlie for someone as lowly in the hierarchy to belittle her every chance she got and had enough balls to attack her.
The Vees are the embodiment of the MidBoss. They will remain throughout the show. And even though Val is the most hated of the characters in the show the point of Viv's Hellaverse seems to be showing how people get to the destructive places in their lives that they are at and how they find their way out of it.
1. Diva is a term used for lovely ladies. Vel is too vicious for that to be accurate. 2. I feel like if there's a way to break a contract, AD will be the first adding to the chaos after learning about Sir Penance. 3. I'm interested in learning about the past, including the Vees.
I assumed this was the case. They wanted to encourage the other Overlords into fighting and dying, leaving the Vees in a stronger position. Velvet walked in that day intending to get under people's skin and encourage them to fight. She never mentioned a single detail about their brilliant plan.
Not to mention Velvette observed Carmilla's reaction at the sight of the beheaded exorcist and decided to insult her close friend Zestial to piss her off and Velvette's insistence pushed Carmilla to end the meeting earlier.
my personal reason why i know they are doomed is because every time i have the thought "them, poly" one of them always dies and since it's hell they may just all die.
I def agree the Vees will eat themselves alive. One thing I noticed was how all 3 seem to see themsleves as the best or the leader , and see the other two as lesser. None of them actually really like one another.
Something I hope to see is Charlie redeeming herself to herself. I think she still feels guilty about not being able to help Angel with Val, and so when the times comes at Angel’s request Charlie will possibly awaken to her true power in order to help her friend and finally set him free by severing Angel’s contract for good, after a hard fought battle with Husk and Cherri at her side
Another interesting thing I've seen pointed out is that V Tower is vaguely shaped like the Tower of Babel, which may be further foreshadowing to a fall due to hubris.
Yeah I also see the resemblance It's a tall tower with multiple layers reaching up into the sky (Saying this.alos makes me realize how the hell is the V's tower still up You'd think a tall building would collapse fairly easily Especially with the amount of buildings destroyed in each extermination)
@@fangirl3323 Here, I found the original post I saw the theory on so I could copy and paste it for you: "for those of you unfamiliar w/ the story of the tower of babel, essentially the story goes that humans built a tower to try and reach heaven and as punishment for their hubris god cursed them all to speak in tongues aka babble! the story of hubris perfectly lines up w/ the current attitude the vees have, especially towards powerful players like charlie and alastor. I think they will pay a similar price for their pride, especially w/ lucifer and heaven taking a more active role in the coming season. the vees primary influence is thru their influence so if they were cursed w/ an inability to communicate or smth of the likes it would be a MAJOR HIT to their power!!! everything in hazbin and the hellaverse are drawn vv intentionally! the heaven embassy looks like a church, the serephim are all depicted w/ three pairs of wings, the deadly sins are drawn based on biblical descriptions of them!!! this is why i think the v tower looking like the tower of babel is not merely coincidence!! "
The Tower of Babel was that one tower people tried to make when trying to reach heaven, which didn't work out in the end due to interference from the big G
@@BonnieThebunny7051 honestly I don't believe this too much since Mammon takes care of his property plus if they did bootleg Fizzarolis then Mammon would sue their asses
In the last song of season one Vox And Val say "leaves room for you and me" no mention of velvette, three and me rhyme so it would be possble to change it, I'm pretty sure it was intentional
I don’t think Velvette has much interest in actually ruling hell, she’s shown mainly to only care about her social media presence and popularity, as opposed to Valentino and Vox who both are more aimed for taking over the ring. When it comes to the song, it’s most likely that it was simply you and me because velvette wasn’t singing in the song in the first place, and HAD she been unincluded they would have kept her out of their huddle in “the future of hell belongs to the Vees” rather than “you and me” or something other of the like referring to just the two TLDR: velvette doesn’t care about being a ruler and vox and val have bigger ambitions than her
Honestly, the Vees should’ve been the main antagonists of season 1. The story would be much slower and steady and we’d have more room for them to show us who they really are, what they stand for, and why they’re a force to be reckoned with. We also wouldn’t have Lucifer and Charlie make up as fast as they did so he wouldn’t get to stay at the hotel and make it nearly impossible for the Vees to combat them.
I just wanna point out a misconception a lot of people have about Alastor’s duel with Adam. 3 things have been shown to destroy an immortal soul (Angel/sinner) 1. Angelic steel 2. Holy powers (Adam/Lucifer) And the final one isn’t shown but implied, Alastor killed the Overlords from before, he didn’t have angelic steel, angelic powers. Meaning that those sinner overlords were permanently killed by Alastor in some fashion
There's one more parallel between Velvette and Alastor: the speed in which they rose to power. If she died in the mid-2010s as is believed, she ammassed a lot of power in less than a decade
Considering that Alastor seemingly has the power to tear a soul to shreds to the point where it can't respawn & traps it in his radio broadcasts, I can easily see Alastor doing that to Vox but have the screams come out of his decapitated TV head for himself alone to marvel at. And as for the other two Vees; perhaps if Angel *can* break his contract with Valenteeno than his other p0rn stars will see that freedom is possible & through a sheer drop of souls under his command Val will lose his Overlord status and will soon be reduced too a nobody; and Velvet already has a her-ego-sized red X on her back for pissin off Zestial and Carmella, and when she inevitably gets assassinated by either-or I don't it'll be a minute long trend in Hell's media sense, just like Vox, Velvet really had nothing to offer in term of substances to stand out, she *ONLY* followed the trend. And obviously the ultimate winner of Round 2 of this fight is Alastor, who I can also easily see completely absorbing the Vees' entire shard companies and doing whatever he wishes with this; lets not forget that no matter what Vox says, Radio is the foundation that his platform is built on, modern technology still uses Radio Waves to transmit their stuff too each other, and in many online communities the aesthetic-cores (E.I. : Cottagecore, Fairycore, 1920score, ect) & gameing IPS all seem to collectively agree that the area the Vees promote (modern/futuristic) is seriously dangerous while the area Alastor promotes (Past/older-times) is a lot safer. So Alastor has the social-political collective perception, the technological foundation, actual substance too be worth a damn, and the literal power too go toe-to-toe with several powerful beings. . . yeah, The Vees are screwed.
I think we are forgetting about the deal made between Vaggie and Alastor at episode one. Vaggie makes a deal with Alastor that if he helps with the commercial for the hotel she will never make him deal with technology again but he pacifically stated TELEVISION who is a Tv? Vox so I believe that if the Vees attack the hotel there is a chance that Alastor will not help them because of that deal and we should also remember that Vivziepop did say that she wanted a Vees spin off show so who knows the may not die! But also i do think that Velvette may betray the Vees it would make sense! Great video btw
I could easily see Velvette letting the other two destroy themselves with their anger and happy to take over to become the strongest individual Overlord in terms of influence and power. We saw how multiple employees work for all three of the Vees, so they likely collectively own their soul contracts so if something should happen to one or two of the Vees their assets and power are allocated to the surviving members.
13:08 Btw , fun fact: Pirithous tried to capture Persephone by trying to trick Hades and of course it didn't work and both him and Theseus were basically glued to a chair surrounded by spiky vines forever until Heracles (Hercules) saved Theseus however Hades stopped him from saving Pirithous because for him he was too generous in letting him save Theseus
@@hobbitshole wdym? i'm sort of a Greek lore fanatic, but I have not heard of this story. also, who do we think doomguy would side with, if at all? sorry about that question, i watched this video after playing doom eternal, and im really excited for doom: the dark ages. Also, your jokes are SPOT-ON, holy shit man!
@@minijaket it's a lesser known story, they only remember how Theseus beat the Minotaur and got the girl for 5 minutes but not his darker side and by the way, fun fact in some accounts it was said Theseus was so glued that Heracles basically ripped Theseus ass by accident
Oh yes, Valentino is DEFINITELY going to die first. And I'll make a bold prediction here: I think Vox will kill him. Vox's hatred begins and ends at Alastor, and even then I would argue it's rooted more in fear -- in a belief that Alastor represents a major threat and not because of anything personal. Valentino, on the other hand, is a walking rage bag, and even when the other two Vees are first introduced, it's made very clear that they are already sick to death of his shit. So I think it's only a matter of time before one or both of them decides that enough is enough and it's time to get a new porno overlord. And honestly, I think it will be Angel Dust. He's already the face of the industry, and going into Season 2, he'll be an even bigger celebrity from having participated in the battle at the Hotel against Adam. Vox, I predict, we'll see Angel Dust as a solution to two problems in one; someone who can adequately replace Valentino AND give the Vees an in to possibly market and profit off of the Hazbin Hotel's newfound fame and admiration. For the other two, I don't think we have enough information yet. Chief among them, who Alastor made his deal with and what the terms of it are. If it was with the overarching villain of Hazbin Hotel in its entirety, I think Velvette will betray Vox and side with said villain, meanwhile Vox will have an "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!!" moment, ally with the Morningstars, and possibly survive.
We all know the way Val is he is bond to get killed by his shady businesses or doing something crazy and trying to get into the hotel. But your idea of it being the other Vees doing it and while freeing Angle's soul him getting a promotion in that industry and making his redemption harder is juicy.
Your theory makes sense and I think it's very well crafted, but there's one thing you might have missed. Vox and Val clearly have something going on with each other. Even though it's quite clear that Vox is done with Val's BS, they were tongue kissing at the end of the show and also dancing together while singing their part in Finale. Viv also confirmed that Vox and Val are in some sort of on and off relationship or a FWB situation. So in my opinion, along with all my biases, I don't think this would happen, nor do I want it to happen. Both from an objective point, and also a subjective point as I'm not afraid to admit I'm quite biased.
Actually, the 'Overlords hanging by a thread' might mean that, because the Hotel is still alive and did good in the epic fight, the sinners might want to try and redeem themselves and, if they do, they will make the overlords contracts useless and lose their status. And the Vs can turn it into something good for themselves, instead of something negative, if they have a good plan. But tbh? Hazbin Hotel writting is pretty bad, and tries to much in little time, so I think is not gonna end up in anything good (this arc of the vs, I mean, I like Hazbin concepts even tho it has many flaws in it execution)
@@TheAntiDisneyEmperor It's passing is the worst part, the lack satisfactory character arcs or resolutions are killing me. Again, I think changing the passing will leave room for them to improve. I like the show, that's why I'm so mad that the first session will end up like this forever. I wish they could re-do it more naturally and with more space tbh
I mean, Vivziepop did confirm that Season 2 would be mostly focused on the Vees, so we'll probably see how well they'll do, maybe we'll see a lot of their inevitable fails during it. Because, yes, you are onto something, and you even nailed it about Velvet. She does actually definitely seem the type to throw the other two under the bus as an opportunist.
I just can’t wait to see what happens to the vees in season two. You have to admit when you look at how Valentino treated angel in masquerade. It really tells you that there is going to be some sort of retribution for chili getting her a second chance in getting that contract, fromValentino, and freeing angel
I'm betting val is the one dying. Vox isn't leaving just yet because he's popular and the rivalry with alastor. Vel *might* die, but if she does she's probably going down after him. If any, i predict that A) they all battle, functioning as a way of charlie learning that not everyone deserves ro be redeemed and val dies. B) they all battle, functioning as a way of charlie learning that not everyone deserves ro be redeemed, val and vel die and vox is left injured.
4:20 and after finale, Niffty. 10:04 she will survive the longest? Ok, but is the Vs will be gone... I dont think overlords she disrespected will have anything to hold them back
I love hating Valentino, dude is a genuine Pos. I DARE Vivzipop to have Valentino, the most hated character, go through some type of redemption arc. That alone would create some interesting conflict amongst the core cast. Angel never forgives Val. Charlie's view that "everyone can be redeemed" be tested. Stuff like that. It's easy to want to support the core cast and see them be redeemed, especially when we havent seen them at their worst. It's harder to want to see a POS like Val actually try to change and be better after seeing his horrible actions. Redemption and forgiveness are THE HARDEST things for a person to do. I want Viv to show that in the show.
I’m glad you pointed out how Velvette was talking Massive amounts of shit during the Overlord Meeting just to sit on her ass during the extermination like..THE BALLS.
Well it did say I was forgot defeated by Fox with it being a close fight so they're pretty much equal except one issue and that's voxs issue when it comes to patience towards Alastair.
@Automaton237 Alastor has a massive ego if they really are equal in terms of power then Vox just needs to figure out a battle strategy tbh or fight with the other two
@@VelvetteSimp that's most likely going to happen or they do a plot line w where Alistair doesn't have his power anymore and he gets easily defeated it would make him more grounded and have to lose his ego.
12:00 My personal headcanon is that Velvette will join the heroes' side as soon as things look grim. It'll end with Valentino dead to free Angel Dust, Vox either dead as well or imprisoned by Alastor and Velvette and Alastor in an all-smiles cold war to become the most powerful Overlord in Hell.
Theory: Valentino gets wrecked and sent to double hell. Vox ends as a watch that alastor uses as fun. Velvette survives losing her power or something like that
If Vivziepop's plan for a spin-off show featuring the Vees manages to get off the ground, then I could see one outcome where they survive after Season Two. Assuming it goes something like the Vees(maybe with Lilith’s backing) interfere more directly with the Hazbin Hotel and or make a move against the other Overlords most likely resulting in: Alastor vs Vox. Angel, Nifty, and Husk vs Valentino. Carmilla(and Zestial) vs Velvette. Resulting in the Vees’s defeat but rather then being killed off, they’re stripped of their Overlord status and power, and kicked out of Pentagram city to start over somewhere else in the Pride Ring. Another City or town where Vivziepop could something with them later if she wants to.
When i saw the title i was like oh no..a. Vees hating video,but when i watcehd it it was actually a very good and entertaining video about the vees and how they could end. Good job👍
I can see Velvette realizing her fellow V's are orchestrating their own downfall. She'll pretend to go along, only to step back and let them sink themselves. However, as you pointed out, she's antagonized other and likely more powerful overlords. If she was really smart, she would have curbed her arrogance a bit and cultivated them as allies.
Honestly, I wish they used the Vees as the primary antagonists of S1. I have said it before, i’ll keep saying it: the pacing was fucked & the decision to up the exterminations by 6 months was bold but didn’t stick the landing. I feel like if they get rid of the Vees (even one of them) in S2, it’d be anti-climactic, especially if they keep the same pace and ESPECIALLY given what I heard about how many episodes are gonna be backstory (which. I hope to be proven wrong. But *whyyyyyyyyyy*, we don’t need that)
@@VelvetteSimp that's fair, but from what I hear (& I'll be so happy to be proven wrong) it’s going to be a LOT of backstory. Given how the pacing is all over the place, and given that Vaggie (one of the main cast, love interest, foil to Charlie, practical element of the hotel, has a LOT of reasons to have complicated feelings about Heaven & Redemption) is severely underwritten, I think the Vees are great antagonists, & it will be fun seeing the fallout! But keep it to a montage or at Most a single episode (Again, I will happily eat my words if I'm proven wrong & it works. I am just speculating based on the current pacing, & I'm not really jazzed about Backstory btw Vox & Alastor w how S2 of Helluva Boss turned out...)
Woo as much as love the possibilities you Suggested. Vivi Said they could get their own spinoff series if get greenlit. After HH story is finished with 4 Seasons plan but the hope of 8 for HH. With that thought process in mind,She probably wouldn't be killing them off.. love Yeah, idea them getting that beat down
As a fellow Vees enthusiast, they're absolutely not gonna succeed. They're cooked. Cooked so hard that they're burnt and then the ashes are cooked again until they are just dust blowing in the wind.
The Vees want to rule Hell, yet they don't stand a chance against the Sins, not even the Goetia, and forget about going against The Morningstar family. So sorry not sorry guys but you can't rule Hell.
Very interesting. I think one of the major differences between Vox and Val is that Vox knows where to draw the line. You can see that he really doesn't want to piss off Lucifer or Charlie when he stopped Val from going to the hotel. To me it seems that Vox and Vel will drop him the moment he pisses off Lucifer or Charlie. Vel on the other hand probably wants to enjoy her time and wants to spend it like she wants. Also one thing every Overlord knows (except Val) is to not play around with Lucifer or Charlie, even if they don't respect them they know not to touch them.
I, personally, believe that “He almost beat you that time” is a statement that was intentionally left unfinished, for the sake of Vox’s pride/ego. The way I see it, especially considering that Al said that Vox is “powerless without the other Vees”, the full statement would likely be “He almost beat you that time, before we joined in.” Following this theory, Vox didn’t beat Al, The Vees beat Al. Al is, based on Vaggie’s claims in the pilot, the strongest Sinner Demon to ever exist, so I see this as more likely than Vox just somehow beating Alastor all on his own.
The Vees feel chaotic. Like they definitely have a 'beware the silly ones' edge to them in how manipulative and powerful they are heirarchy wise in Hell, I can see them having SOME dirty trick up their sleeve to explain why the Morningstars can't just pinky flick them out of existance. At the same time however, they're still incredibly flawed and self desposing villains. From their first appearance they're inadvertantly HELPING Charlie, perhaps most obviously by bringing the walking spanner in the works that is Sir Pentious and his Egg Bois to the hotel and then discarding him as a useless commodity (guess how Alastor gets that deal with Charlie :P). I feel like, similar to Adam, the Vees might be able to put up SOME sort of threat, but will likely be as much the reason it is defeated as Charlie and Hazbin are.
In my school vr game the only thing dangerous Vox weapons are is the Biomic replacement arm of Exogon which has a shrink Ray and a mega partical cannon built in and the Vees did play a role during Exogon boss fight as Vox manually amplified the power to full power which caused minor amount of damage and the Vees did took a nasty hit as doing it Goalius used his Teleport strike and stabbed Valentino in the crotch with his Angelic steel infused Energy blades
I can see the Vees gaining the upper hand at first until later Charlie and the others manage to turn the tables on them. The Vee's downfall was their own flaws.
7:56 ooh I never thought abt that though. It does seem to make Vox more powerful in retrospect. And it makes a little more sense as to why Alastor isn’t just tearing Vox apart immediately. He doesn’t really want to come into direct conflict with Vox again
The only chance in Hell they have is that Velvet is possibly, possibly, working for Roo. And I only think that's even in the realm of possibility is the fact she knows how to manipulate Valentino's magical Pheromones into literal potions which does not fit in her wheelhouse of fashion and media. And it can't be something she learned while alive. Someone had to teach her. If she is, she's just a worker for torturing souls to extract more power for her.
Outside of zapping clothes on models she can seem to pull things from dimensions. She pulled the angle head out of nowhere and pulls up screens in the air and maybe can connect power wise with Vox?
The problem with the Vees is that them being the second seasons threat won't really work. If they were a threat in the first season it would make more sense. Yes they are overlords that did not show their true power yet but the exorcists were the biggest threat of hell because they can kill sinners permanentlu. If Charlie and her friends beat the leader of the exorcists the Vees are not that much of a threat to them in the second season. (Unless Viv pulls a bs ) And this is without counting Rosie and Carmilla who have angelic weapons. As well as other overlords who could be more powerful than the Vees
Weell the Vee are being described by the authors as the next season adversary and they got a lot of soft (and hard) power due to their control of media and being the tech provider of Hell, they are capable of doing plenty of damage...said that are also the perfect description of 'arrogance and stupidity in the same package' as while before the battle of the Hazbin hotel they can be excused to dismiss Charlie and even Lucifer or Alastor as not that big menace due to various factor, inlcuding the king of hell being a depressed recluse that hardly show itself. Well after the season finale is clear how the level of power are really different and how outclassed and outmatched they are even against just Charlie if she decide to not hold back and if they even hint to hurt her Lucifer aka the one that cumberstomped Adam without even put a real effort in it will go down to them with all his power. Honestly it's more probable that they will be used by Alastor to influence Charlie in doing very bad things as they will stupidly antagonize her so much to bring out her bad side
At 1:51 I really like the idea of ZeeZee having a roar ability or like Godzilla. But for the weirdos fantasy's. She can crush their head's with her thunder thighs
I’m shocked this comment isn’t in reversed order. That seems to be the go-to half the time. But, when you say Godzilla roar do you the roar itself or atomic breath?
Why thank you. (BTW the reason why I think ZeeZee will have a T-Rex roar is the just she owns a club for dino/reptilon/kihgu form's and why I think she will have an Atomic breath of her own. Is same reason)
I love the V's and their personalities, all of them, but tbh they don't feel like antagonist at all so far. As far as power, they don't feel threatening in the slightest: the other overlords, Alastor, Lucifer, Charlie, ex-overlord (or two if Nifty's one), ex-exterminator. They haven't really done anything to interfere with the hotel or plot in ways that seem that noticeable either. Maybe it's also because the main cast is so stacked, it doesn't ever feel like they're actually ever in trouble.
Same I literally don't feel intimidated by them at all they're literally just funny secondary antagonists if anything I feel more intimidated by Charlie Lucifer Carmilla and Alastor
1:38 It's like Carmilla told Velvette: "You and the Vs are inane and uniformed!" From that maybe we can guess these guys are more likely to jump the gun when they see opportunity before thinking of the bad consequences.
I think it would make more sense if Valentino died, because it would leave Angeldust free to be redeemed and if they are to be the main villains in S2 it would align well with the storyline. However, I have a feeling that Vox will be the one dying, and despite the fact that he is basically a pathetic little toddler with the power of an overlord, I would still be sad to see him go. Fuck velvette, I don't care if she dies honestly, but that's not going to happen, obviously.
Val: Angel! You get your sweet *bleep* over here before I-
Angel: *sipping on a fruity mix drink* *throws a cackling Niffty at Val*
Val: *high pitched shrieking*
Niffty: *gremlin cackling*
Fingers crossed 🤣
lol, I wouldn’t want this to be Val’s end since it’s so funny despite Val being a seriously bad person, but that would be really funny! I’d love it if Charlie wants Angel back from work early maybe so he can help that plan something against the Vees and that his way of getting off early 😂
@@randomdoggo9489 lol “let me off work or I sick the gremlin on ya” sounds like a typical thing parents say to their bosses these days
@@alexismyers6053”I didn’t give Sally her chocolate milk so if you don’t let me off work I’m sure you won’t mind dealing with her 👍”
@@randomdoggo9489 in high school, one of my psych meds was REALLY hard. And only the name brand worked on me- I had taken the cheaper kind and it didn’t work. It HAD to be this specific brand or I was a nightmare to deal with. Well, of course, the insurance company tried to fight this tooth and nail. They needed a letter from my psychologist to explain why I need X brand and couldn’t take Y brand. Well, the lady sending out those letters got backed up often, making it so that I wouldn’t get my meds for a week or more. Long enough for it to work out of my system. I was an absolute terror because I wasn’t on my meds. On top of that, I was going through withdrawal symptoms because these meds were so hard and I was so dependent on them. So that cranked my attitude up a lot. My mom had to fight the insurance company every month. The pharmacy, of course, couldn’t even give me a couple days worth of meds to hold me over.
Well, one time, it took almost a month to get my meds filled. My mom was on the phone with the insurance company every day. She finally had enough a told them “my teenage daughter has mental health issues and NEEDS those pills! She hasn’t had them for almost a month! I’m about ready to kill her because of how she’s acting without her medicine! So either fill it or I’m sending her to your office for YOU to deal with!” It got filled pretty fast after that and between the insurance company, the psychiatrist, the pharmacy, and mom, they set it up so that my mom could order my meds a week before I was out.
"You and the Vees are inane and uninformed. Smug wannabees who don't heed when you've been warned."-Carmilla Carmine
Oops! Did I strike a nerve? Cuz when I brought out the angel's head, couldn't help but observe that your wrinkled face was turning red. And why are YOU avoiding war? That's what the guns you sell are for. Thanks to my being respectless, one thing I'm starting to suspect is you know why this angel's headless? Do you have a disclosure?
(Sorry I can't help it, I got Respectless jammed into my head, it's just so catchy)
@@korkshingucci4064 "This meeting's over!"
@@korkshingucci4064 Understandable.
carmilla is a queen
@@korkshingucci4064there’s a person on here that does like… “corrected” and “literal” versions of the Hazbin songs, i think the channel is called Cinnamunch but if you just search “*song name* but literal” they should pop up… they’ve done “respectless” twice and they both kill me. In one version, she’s just like “I’m sorry, I have not had breakfast” amd idk why but it CRACKS ME UP every damn time.
Vox and Val: Wants to rule Hell
Velvette: Wants to rule social media
Velvette: Succeeded
Val: “He’s gonna die”-DBZ Abridged
Vox: “He’s gonna die”-DBZ Abridged
Which is just a more indirect way of ruling the world.
She's so me
Given how global social media is now, it’s basically like ruling the world right?
Same difference.
The radio demon, the princess of hell, the king of hell, an ex exterminator, a former overlord, and a tiny being that murdered the first man on earth/the leader of the exorcist army. That enough should be enough info on why a trio of childish, spoiled, and idiotic overlords are most likely fucked.
You left out one-eyed wild card, her good friend with Tommy guns and Saint Repentious.
@@hobbitshole lol yes, just goes to show how fucked the three of them are with the amount of people they’ve gotta cross. (Ps: not just the Tommy guns, but six arms to use them with 💀)
Also let's not forget velvette is probably really weak as an overlord
From what we learn the most powerful overlords are the oldest ones
But velvette isn't all that old since she calls zestial a grandpa
And also uses a phone
In respectless
We can see she's the internet persona of the vees
Meaning she's probably the youngest overlord
Since the other overlords are way older
@@hobbitsholeSAINT REPENTIOUS OMG IM DEAD
the vees aren't even overlords: just loser,overlord wannabes trying to be hot shit in a world that is WAY more powerful than them. honestly,if it weren't for mothman and TV head being so objectively horrible,they might have been endearing,like the team rocket trio of hazbin hotel.
The damned will remember that while the Vees were hiding in their tower. Charlie and friends defeated the divine hoard possibly for good.
Val mentioned that Vox was almost beaten by Alastor. I think the reason that didn’t happen was because Vel and Val stepped in. Alone, they’re nothing, but as a trio, they may actually be a force to be reckoned with.
Charlie apologized to the angels whenever she hit them
Well, to be fair, that wasn't their fight, so it makes sense why they wouldn't take part in it aside from watching the whole thing go down due to their hate boners.
@@RandomDrawer_tm Lol excuse and yes it was technically their fight Velvette herself tried to call out the other Ovedrlords for not fighting back after finding out the angels could be killed sorry but the Vs are hypocrites for hiding out.
@@MultiMoe11 that was vel though, neither Vox or Val cared about the meeting or the angels the only reason why vel even suggested fighting back was to be rambunctious and get on carmines nerves and boost her ego as an overlord. So my point still stands.
I love the idea of Vox being trapped by Alastor and spending the rest of eternity being mocked by the person he hates the most
tho how will they be trapped
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 he literally said how
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 it has been shown that Vox can transform his body into electricity and travel through the electrical network. Maybe Alastor can trick him and make him travel to an special electronic device that doesn't allow him to escape again (and seeing how Alastor created his own camera in the first chapter, it doesn't sound too crazy that he could create something to trap him, or at least that's what I think lol).
Maybe even in the watch from episode 2
Nooooo :(
I hope that after the battle at the hotel, Charlie will finally learn that she needs to use her authority and her powers to assert herself. She doesnt like being mean and sgressive but she needs to know that there are times when that is needed.
She needs to learn that you can be assertive without being those things as well. Her dad asserted himself to Lute (with some slight intimidation since it was a battle) and even he said “please”.
@@hobbitshole yup. She can still be her nice and kind self but when needed she needs to assert herself
@@hobbitsholeThis reminds me of Thorfin from the Vinland Saga. Why did you decide that you won’t even hit anyone anymore? Torfin, fuck, you can be a pacifist and fight without killing
I think it was said in an article that come season 2, Charlie will start asserting her power and status more often.
@@kfphunter1315 pacifism is not about non violence, it's about avoiding it, Aang is a pacifist but won't go around searching for flights but nor does he let the opponent beat him
The Vee's: Overlords hanging by a thread
Literally every other one of the Overlords except Alastor: Am I a joke to you?
Honestly, the only way I can see the Vees upping the Hotel and thus, Lucifer, is the fact that they have one little, tiny thing Charlie wouldn't want harmed no matter what.... Angel's soul.
I don't think Val was buffing when he told Angel that Charlie couldn't do anything about his contract- the Overlords seem to LITERALLY own their victim's soul- Alastor threatened Husk to "tear his soul to shreds" and as powerful Lucifer can be- I really doubt he can just....restore an damaged soul, and considering how Vox is all too happy to put cameras on Angel's room wan watch as he gets violently throw around and worse by his boyfriend- I really doubt he would have any squealms to use Spider Boy as a meat shield.
That sadly seems plausable. Since Angel is able to utilize a loop hole in his soul contract I.E. Val only has control of him at the studio or when he's on the clock for the studio. But off hours, Val has no claims to him.
If Val begins to realize that Angel is no longer under his control, he may resort to breaking or destroying Angel's soul so no one has him. Or he might utilize the loop hole that Angel is his property to do as he wishes while at the studio, and may hold Angel hostage there.
I have a theory that any soul contract made by 2 parties can only be nullified by the Deadly Sin controlling the ring the contract was made in. In this case Lucifer.
However, repairing a damaged soul is probably outside of his wheel house.
well, Charlie and her friends also have an equally powerful weapon... the dirty maid
i doubt lucifer is that weak
he has a bank full of souls
bet
i think it was,indeed a bluff. charlie is the princess of hell and her father is the king: if she were to actually use that power,she could have forced the contract to be voided/force angel dust's soul to be released over the treat of death. sure,the mothy bastard would likely TRY to use him as a meat shield but the likeliness of it actually working is slim. the vees don't respect charlie at all so they are all ultra cocky about what they assume is her inability to stop them but i think if she actually asserted herself,she would without much problem because all of them technically belong to her and her father.
The Vee's song makes perfect sense even up until Alastor is revealed to be alive. That is because Alastor fled, and because he fled he showed weakness. That is something they could exploit simply because Alastor has always comported himself as powerful, in control, and unflappable.
Makes perfect sense honestly, of course they’d want to exploit the fact that Alastor fled the battle and from the V’s perspective, showed obvious weakness, even if there are some other aspects of the situation that they really should’ve paid more attention to.
There IS a popular theory that Lilith made a deal with him. I personally like to think A pastor tried to get the upper hand of the deal, and Lilith showed him who's boss.
@@VioletFruitTreetrue, but being defeated by one of the most powerful beings in existence just shows that Alistair isn't almighty. The fact he was even able to walk away alive is incredibly impressive. It took Lucifer himself to defeat Adam. That's not going to significantly undermine the fear in Alistair.
@@Benjamin1986980 yeah, checks out, there’s always a bigger fish.
@@Benjamin1986980 *Alastor
The fact that’s Lucifer’s Probably going to be Staying at the hotel in season 2,Yeah they’re screwed.
I found it creepy how Lucifer went full (reminding viewers he's the devil) when he got serious in his fight with Adam.
I'd really like that to be explained more since this contradicts the story behind his personality in Hazbin lore.
@@ProtoAlphaI mean, if your beloved daughter’s life were at stake and this douchebag (Adam) was gloating at her weakness, I think most parents would have gone full devil long before Lucifer started playing with Adam.
@@ProtoAlpha Adam tried to end hi daughter no father take that well or holds back defending her.
@@saimaidar9417 Okay, I get that, but he was seriously enjoying hurting Adam, and Charlie legitimately had to tell him to stop.
I also noticed he acted a tad unnerved when Charlie tried to get his support for the hotel, like he was uncomfortable around the sinners.
I think there was a point he tried to do what Charlie did (he mentioned this) but the stress caused him to snap and you know "act irl lore accurate" he soon calms down let's the sinners do their own thing abd the rest is history.
@@ProtoAlpha Remember Charlie was apologizing to the Angels during the fight she has issues with hurting others and would have likely preferred her father to quickly finish Adam off or make him flee not drag things out like he was doing.
I never realized until you pointed that the V's song doesn't make too much sense but i think either they have a really great plan stored that we will see unfold or they know something we as the audience or they're really idiots
Seem more like idiots.
I mean, Vox was spying on the hotel throughout season 1 just to keep tabs on Alastor. They probably picked up a few things.
I think they're all pretty smart despite their personalities especially Vox
@@VelvetteSimp I agree but as far as we know for now we can't say they have leverage
@@waves2378the answer to that is yes…
basically, the Vees are heavily implied (if not outright confirmed) to be only on the level of the other Overlords due to them working together, none of them have been shown to be direct physical threats as of yet. and they all have been shown to be impulsive at time; Val rips assaults or even rips apart his employees over petty reasons, Vox caused a blackout trying to shit talk Alastor and Velvet insulted several Overlords (but mostly focused on Carmilla and Zestial) to their face during a meeting.
I don't see them surviving season 2 unscathed. maybe season 3.
Yeah, not to mention that Alastor was also present at the meeting and he along with Zestial and Carmilla wouldn't have esitated to shred Velvette to barely recognizable pieces for her stunt.
@@Goc4everthey have been confirmed to be the main antagonists of the second season, in the third it will be time to give space to Lilith and other angels maybe and as with Adam who was the main enemy of the first season I think that the bad guys will be self-contained (dead) season by season, without Valentino diced or defeated in one way or another Angelo cannot go down to Heaven because his soul is bound
fun fact: they're the main villians on season 2
Has that been confirmed
@@TheCoachsid6161 yes
@@hey.its.val_ I thought Lilith was gonna be the main villain of Season 2?
@@maozedong4010Viv confirmed in an interview that the Vees will be the primary antagonists of Season 2.
Lilith and Lute may be doing stuff in the background but the Vees are going to be the main obstacle
That only fact made my hyperfixation 10 times worse
Months later, it’s still bad.
Velvette seems less evil than the other two. Just kinda egotistical. Though admittedly she had less interatcion with others, and unlike the other two, she isn't a direct antagonist to one of the leads.
As for the assault plan Velvette mentioned, The Overlords didn't give her the time of day, so they probably just didn't go through with it. I doubt it was a plan for just the three of them, especially since they didn't learn HOW the angel was killed. Plus if they knew the Hotel was the target, possibly because of Charlie clearly bringing the Cannibals to the hotel for the fight, Vox would likely WANT to watch from a distance, hoping theyd finish off Alastor for him. Though it seems a bit odd Val seemed pretty unconcerned with Angel being involved in the fight, since Angel clearly makes him a lot of money.
It his Favorite toy.
it Going Out in a blaze of glory.
That's the best way to entertain him. Doubt he even miss angel for too long anyway
Velvet makes date rape drug's. It's actually in the background in the 2nd episode. And it's the same one those shark mob's planned to use to rape angel she's just as bad she's just better at presenting herself as a boss bitch, and her actions are more subtle, bet you half of the people who work for val where drugged up by velvet then raped by val.
I think Velvette's cockiness will get her killed somehow
I wouldn’t say she’s all too egotistical(at least not as much as it seems). The one real appearance we have of her which is at the overlord meeting she was trying to get under carmillas skin so she could see if she was hiding anything, which she succeeded in proving. I think that a lot of what she said in that scene was her trying to piss her off. Like how she kept insulting zestiel and the other overlords.(And coming for zestiel like that isn’t even just being dumb, it’s almost suicidal. Also carmilla respects most of the overlords there and wants the space to be diplomatic, which velvet especially threatens)
She is definitely pretty arrogant tho, believing that none of the overlords would attack her. Plus she IS one of the V’s so arrogance is a given
A theory I like is that when Carmella said to fight with love, she litterally meant that love is the way to best an angel. Angelic steel is just a buff. That also explains why Alastor got his ass kicked.
Let’s forget about the fact that Alastor, Charlie, and Lucifer, would body all three of them if they even tried attacking the hotel or cuasing trouble that would hurt the hotel. Even if they survive such a fight, the political and social consequences would be severe. Attacking the King and Princess of Hell? The Vees would loose a lot of their power. Lucifer could have connections that he could influence to put the Vees out of business. Delegating social media, tv, and adult entertainment to other Overlords. Or, just order the rest of the Overlords to put their house in order. They can’t say “no” to Lucifer without sever consequences. Besides that, while Alastor is weakened, as well as his pride, they could piss the Radio Demon off enough to gradually dismantle the Vees operation. They’re about to kick a hornet’s nest, and the nest will obliterate them.
Don't forget to mention that NOT EVERY sinner in the hazbin hotel universe arenot hostile to Charlie's Hotel i might see protest at one of the Vees operations ordinary sinners standing up
I agree, if the Vees would decide to defy Lucifer and Charlie as well as attacking the Hazbin Hotel their fate would be already sealed: they would have Lucifer, Charlie and the other Overlords'(especially Carmilla and Zestial's) wrath coming down on them and the Vees can bid farewell to both their lives and media empire.
You forgot Rosie, she's a ally now.
I mean, Katie Killjoy literally attacked Charlie on television and got away with it scott-free in the pilot. People forget how little _anyone_ respects the royal family, let alone Charlie for someone as lowly in the hierarchy to belittle her every chance she got and had enough balls to attack her.
I cracked up after how you described the cannibals new pallet as "Divine."
How else would you describe it? Lol
@@hobbitshole Holy?
@@hobbitsholea pretty good defense system for exterminations
@@hobbitsholeheavenly?
@@FenDweller13 They're Pallet is righteously Angelic!
The Vees are the embodiment of the MidBoss. They will remain throughout the show. And even though Val is the most hated of the characters in the show the point of Viv's Hellaverse seems to be showing how people get to the destructive places in their lives that they are at and how they find their way out of it.
1. Diva is a term used for lovely ladies. Vel is too vicious for that to be accurate.
2. I feel like if there's a way to break a contract, AD will be the first adding to the chaos after learning about Sir Penance.
3. I'm interested in learning about the past, including the Vees.
We only know that Vox died in the fifties, Valentino in the seventies and Velvet in the early two thousands
@kratos999yolo I thought Vox died in the 80s
@@VelvetteSimp nope, the fifties
@@kratos999yolo he apparently was a Tv host and theory says he was killed by a TV crushing him
A funny thought Alastor, Angel Dust, and Vox were born around the same time, just died in different time periods.
Honestly, I dont think the Vees ever intended to fight heaven. They were just trying to push the other Overlords into fighting and losing.
I assumed this was the case. They wanted to encourage the other Overlords into fighting and dying, leaving the Vees in a stronger position. Velvet walked in that day intending to get under people's skin and encourage them to fight. She never mentioned a single detail about their brilliant plan.
Not to mention Velvette observed Carmilla's reaction at the sight of the beheaded exorcist and decided to insult her close friend Zestial to piss her off and Velvette's insistence pushed Carmilla to end the meeting earlier.
my personal reason why i know they are doomed is because every time i have the thought "them, poly" one of them always dies and since it's hell they may just all die.
I def agree the Vees will eat themselves alive. One thing I noticed was how all 3 seem to see themsleves as the best or the leader , and see the other two as lesser. None of them actually really like one another.
The fact that you said bees and not, Vees is crazy but maybe it’s speech to text that screwed you up
@@T.S.P_God5 nah, autocorrect. Thanks for letting me know lol.
@@Frickll ok you're welcome!
They defnitely like each other I'm pretty sure they're friends with benefits
Something I hope to see is Charlie redeeming herself to herself. I think she still feels guilty about not being able to help Angel with Val, and so when the times comes at Angel’s request Charlie will possibly awaken to her true power in order to help her friend and finally set him free by severing Angel’s contract for good, after a hard fought battle with Husk and Cherri at her side
Another interesting thing I've seen pointed out is that V Tower is vaguely shaped like the Tower of Babel, which may be further foreshadowing to a fall due to hubris.
Oh, I like that! The only thing better than that is the Bathory Day Spa. Nice spotting!
Yeah I also see the resemblance
It's a tall tower with multiple layers reaching up into the sky
(Saying this.alos makes me realize how the hell is the V's tower still up
You'd think a tall building would collapse fairly easily
Especially with the amount of buildings destroyed in each extermination)
I don't get it
@@fangirl3323 Here, I found the original post I saw the theory on so I could copy and paste it for you:
"for those of you unfamiliar w/ the story of the tower of babel, essentially the story goes that humans built a tower to try and reach heaven and as punishment for their hubris god cursed them all to speak in tongues aka babble!
the story of hubris perfectly lines up w/ the current attitude the vees have, especially towards powerful players like charlie and alastor. I think they will pay a similar price for their pride, especially w/ lucifer and heaven taking a more active role in the coming season.
the vees primary influence is thru their influence so if they were cursed w/ an inability to communicate or smth of the likes it would be a MAJOR HIT to their power!!!
everything in hazbin and the hellaverse are drawn vv intentionally! the heaven embassy looks like a church, the serephim are all depicted w/ three pairs of wings, the deadly sins are drawn based on biblical descriptions of them!!! this is why i think the v tower looking like the tower of babel is not merely coincidence!! "
The Tower of Babel was that one tower people tried to make when trying to reach heaven, which didn't work out in the end due to interference from the big G
4:53 theory: those aren't official Fizzarolli bots , instead they are bootleg Fizzarolli bots that the vees make and sell.
@@BonnieThebunny7051 honestly I don't believe this too much since Mammon takes care of his property plus if they did bootleg Fizzarolis then Mammon would sue their asses
In the last song of season one Vox And Val say "leaves room for you and me" no mention of velvette, three and me rhyme so it would be possble to change it, I'm pretty sure it was intentional
I don’t think Velvette has much interest in actually ruling hell, she’s shown mainly to only care about her social media presence and popularity, as opposed to Valentino and Vox who both are more aimed for taking over the ring.
When it comes to the song, it’s most likely that it was simply you and me because velvette wasn’t singing in the song in the first place, and HAD she been unincluded they would have kept her out of their huddle in “the future of hell belongs to the Vees” rather than “you and me” or something other of the like referring to just the two
TLDR: velvette doesn’t care about being a ruler and vox and val have bigger ambitions than her
The Vees are the type of villains that would immediately lose because they started monologuing
Vox would probably do that but Velvette and Valentino seem like the type to just rush into battle
Honestly, the Vees should’ve been the main antagonists of season 1. The story would be much slower and steady and we’d have more room for them to show us who they really are, what they stand for, and why they’re a force to be reckoned with. We also wouldn’t have Lucifer and Charlie make up as fast as they did so he wouldn’t get to stay at the hotel and make it nearly impossible for the Vees to combat them.
I just wanna point out a misconception a lot of people have about Alastor’s duel with Adam.
3 things have been shown to destroy an immortal soul (Angel/sinner)
1. Angelic steel
2. Holy powers (Adam/Lucifer)
And the final one isn’t shown but implied, Alastor killed the Overlords from before, he didn’t have angelic steel, angelic powers. Meaning that those sinner overlords were permanently killed by Alastor in some fashion
Sera: Emily, get the popcorn!
There's one more parallel between Velvette and Alastor: the speed in which they rose to power. If she died in the mid-2010s as is believed, she ammassed a lot of power in less than a decade
Considering that Alastor seemingly has the power to tear a soul to shreds to the point where it can't respawn & traps it in his radio broadcasts, I can easily see Alastor doing that to Vox but have the screams come out of his decapitated TV head for himself alone to marvel at.
And as for the other two Vees; perhaps if Angel *can* break his contract with Valenteeno than his other p0rn stars will see that freedom is possible & through a sheer drop of souls under his command Val will lose his Overlord status and will soon be reduced too a nobody; and Velvet already has a her-ego-sized red X on her back for pissin off Zestial and Carmella, and when she inevitably gets assassinated by either-or I don't it'll be a minute long trend in Hell's media sense, just like Vox, Velvet really had nothing to offer in term of substances to stand out, she *ONLY* followed the trend.
And obviously the ultimate winner of Round 2 of this fight is Alastor, who I can also easily see completely absorbing the Vees' entire shard companies and doing whatever he wishes with this; lets not forget that no matter what Vox says, Radio is the foundation that his platform is built on, modern technology still uses Radio Waves to transmit their stuff too each other, and in many online communities the aesthetic-cores (E.I. : Cottagecore, Fairycore, 1920score, ect) & gameing IPS all seem to collectively agree that the area the Vees promote (modern/futuristic) is seriously dangerous while the area Alastor promotes (Past/older-times) is a lot safer.
So Alastor has the social-political collective perception, the technological foundation, actual substance too be worth a damn, and the literal power too go toe-to-toe with several powerful beings. . . yeah, The Vees are screwed.
I think we are forgetting about the deal made between Vaggie and Alastor at episode one. Vaggie makes a deal with Alastor that if he helps with the commercial for the hotel she will never make him deal with technology again but he pacifically stated TELEVISION who is a Tv? Vox so I believe that if the Vees attack the hotel there is a chance that Alastor will not help them because of that deal and we should also remember that Vivziepop did say that she wanted a Vees spin off show so who knows the may not die! But also i do think that Velvette may betray the Vees it would make sense! Great video btw
Just wait until Valentino gets the craziest redemption arc of all time🗿🗿🗿🗿
NO IM NOT SURE IF THATS TRUE NON OF THE VEES ARE REDEEMABLE 😭😭
Imagine if Steven universe met Valentino
@@xanthophobia9977 That would be insane 💀💀
@@xanthophobia9977LMAO
Imagine if Val were to meet Luz Noceda of The Owl House, she would try to set Val ablaze with a fire glyph for everything he's done🤣.
I could easily see Velvette letting the other two destroy themselves with their anger and happy to take over to become the strongest individual Overlord in terms of influence and power. We saw how multiple employees work for all three of the Vees, so they likely collectively own their soul contracts so if something should happen to one or two of the Vees their assets and power are allocated to the surviving members.
3:28 ASMODEOUS COSPLAY WAS CRAZY THO LMAO
But accurate
13:08 Btw , fun fact: Pirithous tried to capture Persephone by trying to trick Hades and of course it didn't work and both him and Theseus were basically glued to a chair surrounded by spiky vines forever until Heracles (Hercules) saved Theseus however Hades stopped him from saving Pirithous because for him he was too generous in letting him save Theseus
Hades is vivzie, angel is pirithous.
Thank you for using the correct naming of him. A good story too.
@@hobbitshole My Greek mythology self couldn't at least put parentheses
@@hobbitshole wdym? i'm sort of a Greek lore fanatic, but I have not heard of this story. also, who do we think doomguy would side with, if at all?
sorry about that question, i watched this video after playing doom eternal, and im really excited for doom: the dark ages.
Also, your jokes are SPOT-ON, holy shit man!
@@minijaket it's a lesser known story, they only remember how Theseus beat the Minotaur and got the girl for 5 minutes but not his darker side and by the way, fun fact in some accounts it was said Theseus was so glued that Heracles basically ripped Theseus ass by accident
We all know Lucifer would love to have a “little” chat with Val
Oh boy, Lucifer is gonna have fun obliterating Val's disgusting ass.
ok i gotta agree,Valentino's wings would make for some amazing decoration
"Considering that Valentino controls his emotions as well as Will Smith controls his hands" 😭 omg
Oh yes, Valentino is DEFINITELY going to die first. And I'll make a bold prediction here: I think Vox will kill him.
Vox's hatred begins and ends at Alastor, and even then I would argue it's rooted more in fear -- in a belief that Alastor represents a major threat and not because of anything personal. Valentino, on the other hand, is a walking rage bag, and even when the other two Vees are first introduced, it's made very clear that they are already sick to death of his shit. So I think it's only a matter of time before one or both of them decides that enough is enough and it's time to get a new porno overlord.
And honestly, I think it will be Angel Dust. He's already the face of the industry, and going into Season 2, he'll be an even bigger celebrity from having participated in the battle at the Hotel against Adam. Vox, I predict, we'll see Angel Dust as a solution to two problems in one; someone who can adequately replace Valentino AND give the Vees an in to possibly market and profit off of the Hazbin Hotel's newfound fame and admiration.
For the other two, I don't think we have enough information yet. Chief among them, who Alastor made his deal with and what the terms of it are. If it was with the overarching villain of Hazbin Hotel in its entirety, I think Velvette will betray Vox and side with said villain, meanwhile Vox will have an "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!!" moment, ally with the Morningstars, and possibly survive.
We all know the way Val is he is bond to get killed by his shady businesses or doing something crazy and trying to get into the hotel. But your idea of it being the other Vees doing it and while freeing Angle's soul him getting a promotion in that industry and making his redemption harder is juicy.
Your theory makes sense and I think it's very well crafted, but there's one thing you might have missed. Vox and Val clearly have something going on with each other. Even though it's quite clear that Vox is done with Val's BS, they were tongue kissing at the end of the show and also dancing together while singing their part in Finale. Viv also confirmed that Vox and Val are in some sort of on and off relationship or a FWB situation. So in my opinion, along with all my biases, I don't think this would happen, nor do I want it to happen.
Both from an objective point, and also a subjective point as I'm not afraid to admit I'm quite biased.
I think they will go down but none of them will really gone because Vicipop said she want to make V side show
To paraphrase Star Wars, “No one’s ever really gone” *Darth Jar Jar noises in the background*
Actually, the 'Overlords hanging by a thread' might mean that, because the Hotel is still alive and did good in the epic fight, the sinners might want to try and redeem themselves and, if they do, they will make the overlords contracts useless and lose their status. And the Vs can turn it into something good for themselves, instead of something negative, if they have a good plan.
But tbh? Hazbin Hotel writting is pretty bad, and tries to much in little time, so I think is not gonna end up in anything good (this arc of the vs, I mean, I like Hazbin concepts even tho it has many flaws in it execution)
The only issue that effects the show is it’s pasting but otherwise the show is great but that’s my opinion
@@TheAntiDisneyEmperor It's passing is the worst part, the lack satisfactory character arcs or resolutions are killing me. Again, I think changing the passing will leave room for them to improve. I like the show, that's why I'm so mad that the first session will end up like this forever. I wish they could re-do it more naturally and with more space tbh
@@rociovaldezguisen6897 it will get better trust me
Hadn’t thought it could mean the Vees, in all honesty; but the title of the video is that too. I’m a slow boy, but a good boy.
there also the fact carmilla probably lost a lot of product
You know Gandalf the White? Now we got Sir Pentious the White
And he’ssss come back at the turn of the tide.
I mean, Vivziepop did confirm that Season 2 would be mostly focused on the Vees, so we'll probably see how well they'll do, maybe we'll see a lot of their inevitable fails during it. Because, yes, you are onto something, and you even nailed it about Velvet. She does actually definitely seem the type to throw the other two under the bus as an opportunist.
Vox gives me huge megalomaniac vibes.
I just can’t wait to see what happens to the vees in season two. You have to admit when you look at how Valentino treated angel in masquerade. It really tells you that there is going to be some sort of retribution for chili getting her a second chance in getting that contract, fromValentino, and freeing angel
I'm betting val is the one dying. Vox isn't leaving just yet because he's popular and the rivalry with alastor. Vel *might* die, but if she does she's probably going down after him. If any, i predict that
A) they all battle, functioning as a way of charlie learning that not everyone deserves ro be redeemed and val dies.
B) they all battle, functioning as a way of charlie learning that not everyone deserves ro be redeemed, val and vel die and vox is left injured.
4:20 and after finale, Niffty.
10:04 she will survive the longest? Ok, but is the Vs will be gone... I dont think overlords she disrespected will have anything to hold them back
Especially Carmilla and Zestial who will have countless valid reasons for wanting to claim her head.
I love hating Valentino, dude is a genuine Pos. I DARE Vivzipop to have Valentino, the most hated character, go through some type of redemption arc. That alone would create some interesting conflict amongst the core cast. Angel never forgives Val. Charlie's view that "everyone can be redeemed" be tested. Stuff like that. It's easy to want to support the core cast and see them be redeemed, especially when we havent seen them at their worst. It's harder to want to see a POS like Val actually try to change and be better after seeing his horrible actions. Redemption and forgiveness are THE HARDEST things for a person to do. I want Viv to show that in the show.
That would be interesting for sure
I just find Val really funny tbh plus I don't really care about Angel dust he's just unfunny comic relief
Honestly I like Val simply for how DETESTABLE he is.
i was cackling the entire video because of how you described the vees vox's was my personal favorite 1080p demon is gold
Thanks.
I’m glad you pointed out how Velvette was talking Massive amounts of shit during the Overlord Meeting just to sit on her ass during the extermination like..THE BALLS.
Val: Angel! You get your sweet bleep over here before I-
Angel:(ignoring val permanently having tricked val with a fake contract)
Charlie and Lucifer can beat them easily but I'm pretty sure Alastor is even more powerful than Vox so its really no competition
Well it did say I was forgot defeated by Fox with it being a close fight so they're pretty much equal except one issue and that's voxs issue when it comes to patience towards Alastair.
“You still pissed he ALMOST beat you that time” -Val Vox and alastor are at a similar power level I’m pretty sure
@Automaton237 Alastor has a massive ego if they really are equal in terms of power then Vox just needs to figure out a battle strategy tbh or fight with the other two
@@VelvetteSimp that's most likely going to happen or they do a plot line w where Alistair doesn't have his power anymore and he gets easily defeated it would make him more grounded and have to lose his ego.
@Automaton237 I kinda want to see that character arc now
I love how ur just roasting them the whole time 😭
Well, I’m not a fan and they make it kinda easy.
These three _reek_ of "Tech Bro" energy; young, rich, and completely in over their heads.
12:00 My personal headcanon is that Velvette will join the heroes' side as soon as things look grim. It'll end with Valentino dead to free Angel Dust, Vox either dead as well or imprisoned by Alastor and Velvette and Alastor in an all-smiles cold war to become the most powerful Overlord in Hell.
I really doubt Vox will die I think it will be the other two who die and Vox will try to avenge their deaths in season 3 or some shit idk
Theory:
Valentino gets wrecked and sent to double hell.
Vox ends as a watch that alastor uses as fun.
Velvette survives losing her power or something like that
What double Hell look like? I picture the Greed ring but with a dash of Mad Max dystopia.
My theory is that the Vees never planned to fight. The real plan was to get the other Overlords to go on a suicide mission and clean up afterwards.
If Vivziepop's plan for a spin-off show featuring the Vees manages to get off the ground, then I could see one outcome where they survive after Season Two. Assuming it goes something like the Vees(maybe with Lilith’s backing) interfere more directly with the Hazbin Hotel and or make a move against the other Overlords most likely resulting in:
Alastor vs Vox.
Angel, Nifty, and Husk vs Valentino.
Carmilla(and Zestial) vs Velvette.
Resulting in the Vees’s defeat but rather then being killed off, they’re stripped of their Overlord status and power, and kicked out of Pentagram city to start over somewhere else in the Pride Ring. Another City or town where Vivziepop could something with them later if she wants to.
I'm sure that Velvette trying to rally up the other Overlords was a ploy to try and get them killed by the angels so they can take more power.
Pretty accurate for an influencer
When i saw the title i was like oh no..a. Vees hating video,but when i watcehd it it was actually a very good and entertaining video about the vees and how they could end. Good job👍
9:08 Alastor: *teleports to Vox's office* Vox: AHHHHHH! Alastor: *throws rock*
2:17 he's bin here since 1600????
5:46 Alastor: im hungry
I can see Velvette realizing her fellow V's are orchestrating their own downfall. She'll pretend to go along, only to step back and let them sink themselves. However, as you pointed out, she's antagonized other and likely more powerful overlords. If she was really smart, she would have curbed her arrogance a bit and cultivated them as allies.
Velvette gives me modern Cruella de vil vibes and I will always think that forever no one can tell me otherwise
Let me just put this into small words: The V's are cooked.
Yes.
@@hobbitsholeyes (start a chain)
The vees: hurts charlie
Lucifer and Vaggie: so you have chosen death?
Tbf vaggie can't do shit to the vees
1:28 a pretty sure they know Alastor is still alive,thats why vox was upset when Alastor disappeared
Honestly, I wish they used the Vees as the primary antagonists of S1. I have said it before, i’ll keep saying it: the pacing was fucked & the decision to up the exterminations by 6 months was bold but didn’t stick the landing. I feel like if they get rid of the Vees (even one of them) in S2, it’d be anti-climactic, especially if they keep the same pace and ESPECIALLY given what I heard about how many episodes are gonna be backstory (which. I hope to be proven wrong. But *whyyyyyyyyyy*, we don’t need that)
We need backstory wdym I want to see Alastor's relation with Vox and their eventual falling out/fight
@@VelvetteSimp that's fair, but from what I hear (& I'll be so happy to be proven wrong) it’s going to be a LOT of backstory. Given how the pacing is all over the place, and given that Vaggie (one of the main cast, love interest, foil to Charlie, practical element of the hotel, has a LOT of reasons to have complicated feelings about Heaven & Redemption) is severely underwritten, I think the Vees are great antagonists, & it will be fun seeing the fallout! But keep it to a montage or at Most a single episode
(Again, I will happily eat my words if I'm proven wrong & it works. I am just speculating based on the current pacing, & I'm not really jazzed about Backstory btw Vox & Alastor w how S2 of Helluva Boss turned out...)
Viv said she wants to make a vees spinoff so I am not sure they would die next season unless the show was a prequel
Woo as much as love the possibilities you Suggested.
Vivi Said they could get their own spinoff series if get greenlit.
After HH story is finished with 4 Seasons plan but the hope of 8 for HH.
With that thought process in mind,She probably wouldn't be killing them off.. love Yeah, idea them getting that beat down
I would love a Vees spinoff show or just a bunch of shorts on Viv's channel
I would love if Vox and velvette survived season 2. Valentino is really the only one they need to kill off.
Apart of me wants to see The Vees succeed because they are my favorite characters. But after watching this, I’m praying for the best.
As a fellow Vees enthusiast, they're absolutely not gonna succeed. They're cooked. Cooked so hard that they're burnt and then the ashes are cooked again until they are just dust blowing in the wind.
On rewatch they were the only characters I liked (other than Alastor and Sir Pentious)
@@VelvetteSimp Same. Love you name btw. I feel like I can relate
When they say “masterless cattle” that’s supposed to refer to the souls that other Overlords own.
The Vees want to rule Hell, yet they don't stand a chance against the Sins, not even the Goetia, and forget about going against The Morningstar family. So sorry not sorry guys but you can't rule Hell.
Very interesting. I think one of the major differences between Vox and Val is that Vox knows where to draw the line. You can see that he really doesn't want to piss off Lucifer or Charlie when he stopped Val from going to the hotel. To me it seems that Vox and Vel will drop him the moment he pisses off Lucifer or Charlie. Vel on the other hand probably wants to enjoy her time and wants to spend it like she wants. Also one thing every Overlord knows (except Val) is to not play around with Lucifer or Charlie, even if they don't respect them they know not to touch them.
The Vees- The vultures:)
5:49 have to admit nice wings
I believe that Vox and Alastor may have around the same power level, its just that Alastor is smarter and that got him a victory.
He’s also more in control of his faculties.
I, personally, believe that “He almost beat you that time” is a statement that was intentionally left unfinished, for the sake of Vox’s pride/ego. The way I see it, especially considering that Al said that Vox is “powerless without the other Vees”, the full statement would likely be “He almost beat you that time, before we joined in.” Following this theory, Vox didn’t beat Al, The Vees beat Al. Al is, based on Vaggie’s claims in the pilot, the strongest Sinner Demon to ever exist, so I see this as more likely than Vox just somehow beating Alastor all on his own.
Vox is like a karen at wall mart when the cashier retaliates
Accurate.
@@hobbitshole lol
The Vees feel chaotic. Like they definitely have a 'beware the silly ones' edge to them in how manipulative and powerful they are heirarchy wise in Hell, I can see them having SOME dirty trick up their sleeve to explain why the Morningstars can't just pinky flick them out of existance. At the same time however, they're still incredibly flawed and self desposing villains. From their first appearance they're inadvertantly HELPING Charlie, perhaps most obviously by bringing the walking spanner in the works that is Sir Pentious and his Egg Bois to the hotel and then discarding him as a useless commodity (guess how Alastor gets that deal with Charlie :P). I feel like, similar to Adam, the Vees might be able to put up SOME sort of threat, but will likely be as much the reason it is defeated as Charlie and Hazbin are.
In my school vr game the only thing dangerous Vox weapons are is the Biomic replacement arm of Exogon which has a shrink Ray and a mega partical cannon built in and the Vees did play a role during Exogon boss fight as Vox manually amplified the power to full power which caused minor amount of damage and the Vees did took a nasty hit as doing it Goalius used his Teleport strike and stabbed Valentino in the crotch with his Angelic steel infused Energy blades
That moment of velvette recording vox and Val-guarantee at some point she’s going to hand that over the Lucifer or Alastor.
Vox can only hypnotize people who have watched his content
I love that you mentioned Rosie’s power tbh, everyone underestimates her and I love the hannibal lecter joke u added there 😭😭
Thanks. I’ve been experimenting with some script ideas and that Hannibal reference will be coming back in one form or another.
I can see the Vees gaining the upper hand at first until later Charlie and the others manage to turn the tables on them. The Vee's downfall was their own flaws.
The thing that makes the Vees quite powerful is Vox’s mind controlling powers and Velvette’s influence
7:56 ooh I never thought abt that though. It does seem to make Vox more powerful in retrospect. And it makes a little more sense as to why Alastor isn’t just tearing Vox apart immediately. He doesn’t really want to come into direct conflict with Vox again
I would adore an episode where Alastor and Vox are forced to work together to escape some kind of tricky situation.
Sinners regenerate after being ripped apart, only angelic weapons can end their existence.
Yes.
Though Alastor killed a number of overlords and claimed their souls so it would appear souls can be destroyed with enough force.
The only chance in Hell they have is that Velvet is possibly, possibly, working for Roo. And I only think that's even in the realm of possibility is the fact she knows how to manipulate Valentino's magical Pheromones into literal potions which does not fit in her wheelhouse of fashion and media. And it can't be something she learned while alive. Someone had to teach her. If she is, she's just a worker for torturing souls to extract more power for her.
Outside of zapping clothes on models she can seem to pull things from dimensions. She pulled the angle head out of nowhere and pulls up screens in the air and maybe can connect power wise with Vox?
@amandafurrow2338 it’s the power of her hair.
The problem with the Vees is that them being the second seasons threat won't really work. If they were a threat in the first season it would make more sense. Yes they are overlords that did not show their true power yet but the exorcists were the biggest threat of hell because they can kill sinners permanentlu. If Charlie and her friends beat the leader of the exorcists the Vees are not that much of a threat to them in the second season. (Unless Viv pulls a bs ) And this is without counting Rosie and Carmilla who have angelic weapons. As well as other overlords who could be more powerful than the Vees
Weell the Vee are being described by the authors as the next season adversary and they got a lot of soft (and hard) power due to their control of media and being the tech provider of Hell, they are capable of doing plenty of damage...said that are also the perfect description of 'arrogance and stupidity in the same package' as while before the battle of the Hazbin hotel they can be excused to dismiss Charlie and even Lucifer or Alastor as not that big menace due to various factor, inlcuding the king of hell being a depressed recluse that hardly show itself. Well after the season finale is clear how the level of power are really different and how outclassed and outmatched they are even against just Charlie if she decide to not hold back and if they even hint to hurt her Lucifer aka the one that cumberstomped Adam without even put a real effort in it will go down to them with all his power. Honestly it's more probable that they will be used by Alastor to influence Charlie in doing very bad things as they will stupidly antagonize her so much to bring out her bad side
At 1:51 I really like the idea of ZeeZee having a roar ability or like Godzilla.
But for the weirdos fantasy's. She can crush their head's with her thunder thighs
I’m shocked this comment isn’t in reversed order. That seems to be the go-to half the time. But, when you say Godzilla roar do you the roar itself or atomic breath?
Ok so first: there will be the T-Rex roar.
Second: there's the Atomic breath part
@user-il2ln5dl6o classic buildup. I like it. Very cinematic.
Why thank you. (BTW the reason why I think ZeeZee will have a T-Rex roar is the just she owns a club for dino/reptilon/kihgu form's and why I think she will have an Atomic breath of her own. Is same reason)
@@Cole-g2m agreed. Club Kaiju also sounds fun.
I love the V's and their personalities, all of them, but tbh they don't feel like antagonist at all so far.
As far as power, they don't feel threatening in the slightest: the other overlords, Alastor, Lucifer, Charlie, ex-overlord (or two if Nifty's one), ex-exterminator.
They haven't really done anything to interfere with the hotel or plot in ways that seem that noticeable either.
Maybe it's also because the main cast is so stacked, it doesn't ever feel like they're actually ever in trouble.
Same I literally don't feel intimidated by them at all they're literally just funny secondary antagonists if anything I feel more intimidated by Charlie Lucifer Carmilla and Alastor
1:38 It's like Carmilla told Velvette: "You and the Vs are inane and uniformed!"
From that maybe we can guess these guys are more likely to jump the gun when they see opportunity before thinking of the bad consequences.
I think it would make more sense if Valentino died, because it would leave Angeldust free to be redeemed and if they are to be the main villains in S2 it would align well with the storyline.
However, I have a feeling that Vox will be the one dying, and despite the fact that he is basically a pathetic little toddler with the power of an overlord, I would still be sad to see him go.
Fuck velvette, I don't care if she dies honestly, but that's not going to happen, obviously.