Gunny Juice: Stropping Maxamet 9, 6, 3, 1, 0.5, 0.25 and 0.1micron juice.
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2020
- The Maxamet is sharpened to 700 grit CBN resin bonded stone then the strops starting at 9 micron.
You can find the juice at omahaknife.com or gritomatic.com.
Thank you sir and all you have done for the knife sharpening community and thanks for the amazing product you have clearly put your time and heart into.
Thank you for the kind words.
My gunny juice is out for delivery! Can't wait. Unfortunately I ordered a bunch of the hand America stuff before I found your product. But it should be fun to do some comparisons. Doesn't hand America claim to do the same process as you with the deionized water and stuff and heavy concentrations? I'm just trying to figure it all out brother, I'm just now getting to that point where I'm doing more good than harm lol! Have a great Christmas brother, and thank you for all your efforts!
The deionization process that we do along with our careful PH balance of the carrier is proprietary to us ensures the diamonds remain deionized. It also gives a more even distribution. There may be other companies that use deionized diamonds, but they don’t use our process and can’t use our carrier. The machinery we used was built specifically for our processes. And if I am not mistaken Hand America is mono crystalline diamonds vs polycrystalline diamonds. I have used Hand America and have nothing negative to say about their product or any other product on the market. I don’t compare this product to other products because it’s not the same and because I do test other products and will continue give honest evaluations of products. So I feel for me to compare products would be unethical. Now that being said I welcome any comparison testing that others would like to do. And thanks man! Merry Christmas!!
First time using gunny juice 1 micron and the output is really unreal to me. Fast cutting and mirror polish in no time
Thanks!
Hi Gunny. Your videos have helped me a lot and I use and love your products. Question so I see you have a fixed angle sharpening system like the TSprof which the nano cloth strops can be mounted in but you prefer freehand stropping. Is there a downside to stropping using it mounted on a fixed angle system?
Thank you. My apologies for the delayed answer. The major drawback in stropping using a fix angle for me is feel. I have been freehand sharpening and stropping my whole life. With sharpening using stones on a guided system I get visual information as it’s happening that I don’t get freehand on stones. Freehand on stones I get a feel that I can’t get using a guided system. With stropping I get more information by feel then I gain with any visual information. I can feel where the apex is. I can feel what it needs. Like more pressure on part of the bevel than the rest. More strokes on one side than the other. So I personally get better results stropping freehand. It took me some getting used to using guided systems and I just never have gotten as good of results using a guided system as I do freehand stropping. Sharpening is different.
Nice man, will keep an eye out for your giveaway video. :-)
I have a video on strops that I did earlier if I can get it to upload. It’s over an hour covering different stropping materials. That strop that you made is on there too
@@GunnysSharptalk Nice, will be sure to check it out. 👍
@@GunnysSharptalk Btw, been hearing lots of positive feedback on your emulsions on different sites.
Thanks. A lot went into setting them apart from what’s out there.
@@GunnysSharptalk Hey I may have asked you this already, you on Instagram?
Very nice Gunny! Did that end up with a toothy edge still?
It was, but I normally don’t even strop as much as I did in that video
03/24/24 Thank you for making these videos. Im just getting started in the "sharpening world" & have learned a lot from you. I have a question about stropping on wood with the 3 micron tape. You mentioned using Bass with 3 micron & Ash with 1 micron. What about the other Gunny Juice such as 9, 6 & so on? Is there a science to the micron & type of wood strop or just personal preference? Thank you in advance...
Thank you I am glad the videos help. I use 3M micropore tape. It’s a surgical paper tape with holes that are only 2nm. So 1 micron and below I prefer either Gunny Cloth strops or basswood. I use the wood both with and without the tape. 3 works well on any stropping material. 6, 9 and 12 micron works great on leather
@GunnysSharptalk Thank you again, this is good info.
@@ericward9159 np happy to help. If you ever have questions you can always message me on FB messenger too. Under Scott Gunn
Het Gunny I have all of the ones your showing plus the 12 micron you have out are you going to add a .0025 by chance I know you mentioned it in one of your vids and it was more costly to make would love to get it if you do end up making it. Also, it was nice seeing you got something going with DLT I do a lot of business with them, and was a nice addition for me. Thanks
Possibly. After I get some other things out first
I appreciate the support
didn’t think that it was possible to get 700 grit to mirror. wow
Great video. If you could only pick one would you go with a 3 micron or .5 micron for use on a magnacut blade?
Go with the 3
Thank you
What micron would you use to strop in the field? Like field dressing an animal. I carry a little two sided strop. Thank you for the input. I use a 1095 fixed blade or s45vn folder.
6 or 3 micron should serve you well
making my first gunny juice strop tomorrow.
Lmk what you think
@@GunnysSharptalk I'm a blade smith and now I'm your customer for life. This is a huge leap beyond my previous stropping strategy.
@@18deadmonkeys thanks! I appreciate the support.
How do you prep your plain basswood pieces BEFORE adding the juice? You mentioned sanding... what grit sandpaper do you use for wood prep?
I lightly sand them with wet/dry sandpaper. Between 2-5k grit usually
Thank you again for these videos. I just ordered every micron Gunny Juice in 10ml to try out. I noticed from your videos as well as others that use Gunny Juice, the strop is always on a table & the blade being stropped on top. But, one video i seen, forgot who, used the Gunny Juice on a strop attached to a blank & stropped in a TSPROF Kadet Pro. They were stropping in the same way you would sharpen a blade. Is this way recommended at all? I have yet to see you stropp this way. Also, since the strop is facing down towards a blade locked in a sharpening device, would you lose product/ diamonds while stropping? Thank you again for your videos....
You shouldn’t lose product. There’s nothing wrong with stropping with a TSPROF. I am a freehand sharpener by nature. I started with stone in hand sharpening. So I have a better feel for stripping holding the strop. I can feel when more or less pressure is needed. Sometimes one side needs more work than the other. I can feel that. So for me I get better edges if I hand strop.
@GunnysSharptalk I appreciate you getting back to me on this. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
@@ericward9159 np. Happy to help
Can you use gunny juice and KME cbn emulsion in a sequence or are they just completely different? And if you can is it okay to use the same strop for like the same micron of the two? I’m just curious, I haven’t done of course but I thought I would ask.
You can use them in sequence. I wouldn’t suggest using them on the same strop. And even using them in sequence the Gunny Juice has tighter particle size specs. So you want the GJ to be the lower micron size of the two. But due to the tight particle size specs and the deionization process used to make it, you should start it on a fresh strop to get the full effects.
This isn’t related to Gunny Juice, but is Gunny Glide non-toxic?
Great video! I just bought the 3 .5 .25 and the .01 do you recommend taking all my knives thru the progression or should i stop some where for different steels? They would all be either folders or fixed blades. I love the mirror finish but dont no if thats possible or if its a good idea on all steels? Thanks again for the advise!
It depends on what you want and skill level. Some people struggle not over refining their apex when they mirror everything. Some steels take more skill or more time to mirror than others. A mirror isn’t necessary on every blade. I mirror most of mine or at least slightly mirror them as a side effect of sharpening them to a very fine apex. Sharper will cut longer because the apex is thinner. You can refine the microscopic teeth/serrations off the apex and cause the knife to lose cutting performance if you aren’t careful
And thanks hope the videos help you
@@GunnysSharptalkhell yeah man your videos are very informative and you can tell your knowledgeable so keep it up! I'll be watching and subscribing for more
Are you using the same Jade 4 micron cloth nano cloth straps for every different Gunny Juice you are using or are you going down in Jade micro cloths (ie 0.5, o.25) as you are using different Gunny Juices?
With Jende’s nanocloth it doesn’t matter what the micron size says on the strop. The cloth is like a honeycomb material with tubes that are 30-50 micron in size. So the cloth itself is the same on all of the strops. They just premark them with a micron size to help you not mix them up, but you can take a 3 micron compound and put it on a 0.25 micron Jende Strop. Just write what micron size you used.
Thinking about a 9,6,3 (I’ll buy mine) setup for my high carbide steels. Could you do a video about explaining polycrystalline diamond?
I can.
Give me the weekend. I have several videos that I need to get uploaded too
How do you manage to keep your hands so clean when my look like chimney sweep!? The dirt from stropping is really hard to clean (in fact im using fine sand with soap to take it off)
I have a lapping fluid/stone cleaner that I am working on. It cleans my hands as I work
Can you refresh the compound with something like water after it is loaded with steel in order to save on compound? The stuff works really well on basswood but it is a little hard on the wallet!
It won’t refresh the compound but it does keep cutting after the strop looks like it’s loading up with metal. And then usually on drop is enough to reload the strop with compound. Sometimes 2
What stone grits do you go up to for your EDC’s? And my next question is for the gunny juice do you recommend using all of the different micron stages for a good mirror polish finish? Or would a guy get away with two or three different microns? And if so which ones
I mirror my EDC blades. As I can keep a good aggressive slicing edge on my mirrors by not over refining the apex
I go from a Venev resin bonded diamond stone that’s F1200 (which is roughly 6k grit or 3/2 micron)to the 1 micron. Then 0.5, 0.25, 0.1. A lot of people go to the 3 micron first. It depends on how efficiently you removed the scratches with the stones.
I know you normally don't use leather strops but have you done any test or use of gunny juice on leather. And if so how was the experience compared to the basswood and nanocloth
Yes I have done many tests on leather. This works great on leather. Leather doesn’t polish quite as well as nanocloth and doesn’t leave quite as crisp of edge as I get with basswood. But you will still be very happy with the way will perform on leather
@@GunnysSharptalk so would you say its kinda in the middle of the nanocloth and basswood. How's the edge compare to nanocloth in your opinion
Yeah you could say that
Well I have all the KME emulsions 4 to .1 micron and for the gunny juice I only have the .25 and.1 micron. It seems like the gunny juice is way better or I get better results that is. What would you suggest the sequence I go about, meaning what micron and emulsion to start and finish with.
If you’re using KME diamonds most get really great results going 3, 1, 0.5, 0.25 and 0.1.
Your last couple of videos have been recorded with the volume way too low. I've got everything cranked to 100% and still can't understand what you are saying. Gonna order some headphones to see if it helps on the current ones, but if you could dial it up a bit it would be great. Thanks buddy!
I will keep that in mind. I thought it was up all the way. And I am a loud person so I am not sure what happened
What degree bevel do you recommend sharpening your EDC to?
Really depends on what you perfer. 17-19 for razer sharp, 20-21 for a hybrid 22-23 for durability
Is there a connection between Gunny juice and the Clan Gunn of Scotland? I noticed the motto Aut Pax Aut Bellum.
I am a Gunn
So that’s where the nickname of being called Gunny comes from and the reason for tying my family heritage into it.
Great product, too bad that right now, late January 2024 I could not find what i wanted in the grit rating or size. What Happened??
The short answer is the factory was closed most of December. So product is just coming in from the end of November and beginning of December
do you think more passes on each would have gotten all the scratches out? sorry if thats a dumb question.
Probably eventually, but then you run the risk of over stropping and losing sharpness.
@@GunnysSharptalk thank you so much for the reply and content!
@@willc2935 NP. Happy that people are getting something out of the videos.
What are those stones or whatever they are you are using
Those are strops. They’re nanocloth strops with Gunny Juice polycrystalline diamond emulsions on them.
I want hair cutting sharp man would you recommend the .5 or .25
If you only pick one I would get the 0.5
So it does not matter what size micron Jende nano cloth you use? I purchesed 9 through 0.1 micron gunny juice i just need to order nano cloth and wanted to make sure before i purchased them. Thank you
The pores in the nanocloth are all the same. Jende did the color coding to micron size to match the color labels Jende uses for their emulsions
Ok that's what I thought. Thank you for the reply
@@shaneseachris5546 NP
Stropping with microcloth spreads the abrasive around. Don"t you afraid to contaminate other strops keeping them too close?
Not really. And I usually keep them in the box. Most people contaminate their strops by not wiping the bevel before moving to the next strop. I’m not saying you can’t contaminate them. I just haven’t had an issue. I don’t always lay them out like this. I did this for the video. I am stropping further away from the other strops than the camera angle makes it appear in the video.
I have heard positive things about your stuff. I am a retired journeyman machinist so that is the basis of my experience with sharpening and finishing.
Please do not take my comments as criticism. You come across as an energetic guy that believes in his product; with good reason. But you have got do a much better job on your videos demonstrating its value. The screen angle was awful and distracting throughout. Too much happened out of the view of your potential customers and the audience who will influence others. It’s all about networking you know.
The camera looking over your shoulder showed you stropping and then you looking at the progress. Very little else.
I hope you understand what I am trying to say. I also sincerely hope that you succeed in your venture. Don’t give up on all your hard work! Have someone help you set up the stage and watch your recording on some kind of monitor. Have someone who cares enough to be honestly objective and tell you the truth about it looks as you go. And if it is something you can’t be proud of, start over. That sounds harsh but it really is better than a video that makes you look bad.
To wrap it up, I am 80 years old; I have seen a lot. I’m still working in my shop. I want to use your product. So hang in there! Don’t make the same mistakes that so many people cranking out lousy videos do. Most of them are pitiful. Spend more time time, effort and money on your videos. Right now this the one opportunity to directly talk to the ones that will buy from you (or someone else). All this is just the opinion of an old man who wishes you the very best.