oliver closehoff it’s been happening for a while. A woman I trained with freaked out when a teammate posted a video of him tapping me with a “rape choke”. I hear people calling it the Vader choke to avoid the triggering. Although I can see why women might not wanna get “rape choked”. It’s gonna suck just as bad no matter what u call it, but hey, it is what it is...
I think what he's saying is that the counter is SOO easy and doesn't take quickness or speed that's why it berimbola doesn't work. Like a sprawl needs to be timed correctly, and many defenses requires multiple techniques, but to counter the berimbola you basically only have to sit down and you practically countered the entire position
This is less of a "berimbolo sucks" essay and more of a "here's how to shutdown the berimbolo" instructional. So I don't think you accomplished what was meant by the title, but these are great tips I will incorporate!
The last bit resonated with me, I'm constantly giving up position while passing guard standing just because of drilling/training habits and because I'm confident in my own guard if I get swept. But I should be entering without the need to immediately strip off the grips and hooks I allowed to get through.
Thanks for this video, not only you give details on why you said in some ways the berimbolo doesn't work when you have active technical answer but you even give philosophy on don't enter in the guard if you're not ready to pass with a strategy. This is appreciate!
@Tommy Hass I guess the point that you are not getting, and which Keenan so flippantly passes over, is that every technique is defensible, single attacks especially so. An attacker that is fixated only on the berimbolo will most likely get shut down. But when you combine a berimbolo with other threats, off balancing your opponent and forcing them to defend between two or more things, then the berimbolo is not easily defensible.
Keenan is the one with the blue hair, but I see a lot of triggered people on this comments board. Good video on the basics of passing, lots of black belts needing this info right here haha.
Every position can be defended. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. As a black belt the basic knowledge of timing, action and reaction should be very clear. Thats BJJ, anything, crazy or not, can work on the right time, with the right action and the expected reaction. Not cool to go online trying to say that a technique sucks, instead of showing how it can work and be defended. But y’all definitely should start using the “worm guard” lol
And when he fought Paulo, what was his defence to the berimbolo? Paulo also won the last time they faced off, even though Keenan is over 20 kg heavier and has more experience
Of course there are defense to it just like stepping over the foot in worm guard. But it has worked to much to say it doesn't work. My Professor Samuel Braga is still winning Master worlds using it and everyone knows it is coming. His Berimbolo 2.0 has addressed a lot of the common defenses as well. I like all your stuff brother worm,squid,etc. But I will continue reaping the spoils of the berimbolo 🤙
I train at AOJ and have for the last 5 years. Myself and many others at AOJ will disagree with you, oh and both Mendes Brothers would disagree with you. It works!!!!
So running your hips away stops the berimbolo, I feel like if you are standing and just keep disengaging at the right time most open guard techniques are shut down... Berimbolo I'm sure is not great BUT if it is the right technique at the right time then it's the right technique... gogoplata isn't great either but I have tapped people with it... tools for the toolbox imo
I have been trying to get into a place in my life where I can go back to bjj. It has been slightly more than a year since my last class and I remember berimbolo’s being huge and everyone was trying to figure out ways to beat it.
I would love to see you and one of the Miyao brothers go at it. Or Levi Jones. They got some new tricks you didn't show. They be using the lapel now for control as well. Better brush up on their game.
I mean this is just silly, you can do a video about any technique in jiu jitsu showing its defences and counters and say they dont work. If it doesnt work how come its still being used? the way you set up your moves is what makes them work, Miyao still hits that berimbolo entry, not as frequently of course. But as any technique, counters get developed, and then counters for those counters. If you only rely on berimbolo of course you will get shut down easily, that just means your guard offense is poor. Again, this just silly, a silly way to promote worm guard, which DOESN'T WORK LOL!
@@fusilism Yes, he played double pull with every miyao, once both got disqualified for doin it a whole match. Its not like he stood on Paulo or Joao's guard and neutrailze all their sweeps and bolo attempts.
@@Timhttrsn Well yes, when you pass guard you have to stop the guarder sweep or submission attempts with proper posture and grip fighting, thats what its about. It still doesnt mean the berimbolo is ineffective
@signoaspire I would say he knows that, but how is a technique that is often used by 2 time worlds champion Musumeci , or even Paulo. OR RAFA MOTHERFUCKING MENDES less legit than others?
Before i watched this video someone tried to do this to me i fell but when he tried to continue i just held on to one of his legs he couldnt do anything
so what you're saying is, that it doesn't work in one particular situation because you know a defense (that may or my not, depending on the opponent) put you at risk for a knee bar..
Rafael Mendes said the scramble to a better position like taking the back is the berimbo. Not necessarily the short dela riva. Once u bump em over and scramble in anyway(leg drag, crab ride etc) to get get the back. That's the berimbolo. At least that's what I remember rafa saying.
When I saw that blue hair, I immediately assumed Keenan was gonna call the berimbolo a micro aggression
oliver closehoff it’s been happening for a while. A woman I trained with freaked out when a teammate posted a video of him tapping me with a “rape choke”. I hear people calling it the Vader choke to avoid the triggering. Although I can see why women might not wanna get “rape choked”. It’s gonna suck just as bad no matter what u call it, but hey, it is what it is...
bro this is the best comment ive seen in a long time lol
@@radracer8889 well, Vader Choke is a cooler name
😂😂😂😂
@@caiobittencourt9851 no it's not. It's gay.
Lol I feel bad for my friend who literally self identifies as a berimbolo.
Same type of dude to overdose on acai
had to lol ^^
Not as bad as those who identify as wrist lockers or guard pullers
I love wrist locks guard pulls and berimbolo :D
@@bipedalhominid6815 and answers oss to every word the instructor says
"if you're on bottom just do worm guard." Best plug ever lol
Did you film this in a shoebox?
this is funny lol
They are actually both under 5cm tall.
So what you’re saying is that the berimbolo works.
I don't think its valid to say a position doesn't work just because
there's a defense for it. Almost every position has a defense.
VictorHugoVideos exactly!
Nah many positions Will go away once defences are established
I think what he's saying is that the counter is SOO easy and doesn't take quickness or speed that's why it berimbola doesn't work. Like a sprawl needs to be timed correctly, and many defenses requires multiple techniques, but to counter the berimbola you basically only have to sit down and you practically countered the entire position
Agreed
Just try it again. Or something else, then go back to the BB
This is less of a "berimbolo sucks" essay and more of a "here's how to shutdown the berimbolo" instructional. So I don't think you accomplished what was meant by the title, but these are great tips I will incorporate!
The last bit resonated with me, I'm constantly giving up position while passing guard standing just because of drilling/training habits and because I'm confident in my own guard if I get swept. But I should be entering without the need to immediately strip off the grips and hooks I allowed to get through.
I hope Keenan realizes that killing the Berimbolo only STARTS to make up for what he did by inventing worm guard.
The road to redemption is long...
What was wrong with inventing worm guard? :).
@@liammcknight3845 spoken like a man who has never been inside one
I love using worm guard lol
5 Matches, 5 Berimbolos, 5 Submissions: Johnatha Alves 2019 Pan Highlight Flograppling
wow. nice one. Just watched it. He tuend all of those guys up in less that 5 minutes combined. Wow.
@@impolitikful lol
They were all brown belts that put their hips to the mat.
@@orangeiceice12 Legit LoL. Nicely done.
Thanks for this video, not only you give details on why you said in some ways the berimbolo doesn't work when you have active technical answer but you even give philosophy on don't enter in the guard if you're not ready to pass with a strategy.
This is appreciate!
THE MIYAO BROTHERS "AM I A JOKE TO YOU"
This video is gold. I love your teaching. Thank you so much for posting it
"We're doing jiu-jitsu now! Here is my ankle" hahahahahaha
Rafael Mendes will still berimbolo you
No. He can do whatever he wants to do to you.
was thinking the same
He will also choke you from inside your closed guard
oliver closehoff he’s straight up saying “Berimbolo doesn’t work” lmaooo
Didn't know Ninja is a black belt
"DIE ANTWOORD!"
Fuck, I still can't say the shit
Keep this same energy and roll with one of the Miyao Bros
Also, double leg takedown doesn't work because you can just sprawl and mount doesn't work because you can just umpa.
@Tommy Hass Why is that a dumb comparison?
@Tommy Hass Sure they are. If someone telegraphs their shot with zero setup and bad timing, then sprawls are super easy.
@Tommy Hass If it's so easy to set it up, why do people still get sprawled on all the time?
White belt statement right there...
@Tommy Hass I guess the point that you are not getting, and which Keenan so flippantly passes over, is that every technique is defensible, single attacks especially so. An attacker that is fixated only on the berimbolo will most likely get shut down. But when you combine a berimbolo with other threats, off balancing your opponent and forcing them to defend between two or more things, then the berimbolo is not easily defensible.
That funny smile at 8.52m : " Sorry berimbolo guys, I am right." Love it.
Great job Cornelius 😎happy to see a new video😎
Guilty about the walking into people’s open guard...will cease beginning today. Thanks kenaan
Keenan is the one with the blue hair, but I see a lot of triggered people on this comments board. Good video on the basics of passing, lots of black belts needing this info right here haha.
This looks like one of those padded rooms they have in mental asylums
To be fair, his "picture perfect berimbolo" looked super sloppy compared to everyone teaching berimbolo...
Really good speak my man. Stay healthy and have a good Christmas!
10'54'' beautifully done, my brother.
That was a great rant toward the end.
Now its time to develop a counter for the berimbolo counter
cool vid keenan but how do i get your assistant's neck gainz
Very nice Keenan 👍🖒🖒✋Thank you for making video. High five 🖑Hello from Kazakhstan
How do you feel about the validity of reverse de la riva? (question for everyone)
Every position can be defended. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. As a black belt the basic knowledge of timing, action and reaction should be very clear. Thats BJJ, anything, crazy or not, can work on the right time, with the right action and the expected reaction. Not cool to go online trying to say that a technique sucks, instead of showing how it can work and be defended. But y’all definitely should start using the “worm guard” lol
Any body notice the mistborn allomatic symbol on his assistants right thigh?
別の選手のセミナーでやったことがより深く理解できた!
I guess the video should be named “how to stop berimbolo” instead berimbolo doesn’t work 🙄
It doesn't work because Keenan says so period.
Keenan hasn't won worlds, Musumeci, the Miayos, Mendes bros etc all have
@@vmbrazilianjj Keenan has submitted Paul miyao, came 2nd at world twice and never rolled against Mendes's bros, but he is much bigger
And when he fought Paulo, what was his defence to the berimbolo? Paulo also won the last time they faced off, even though Keenan is over 20 kg heavier and has more experience
@@vmbrazilianjj no he didn't he beat him not too long ago again
What did he say at the end? If you’re on bottom do more ???
Props to the LRN.FM patch on your partners Gi. I know a lot of those dudes and even was interviewed by them a couple of times.
Of course there are defense to it just like stepping over the foot in worm guard. But it has worked to much to say it doesn't work. My Professor Samuel Braga is still winning Master worlds using it and everyone knows it is coming. His Berimbolo 2.0 has addressed a lot of the common defenses as well. I like all your stuff brother worm,squid,etc. But I will continue reaping the spoils of the berimbolo 🤙
And how does Rafael Mendes feel about this?
I train at AOJ and have for the last 5 years. Myself and many others at AOJ will disagree with you, oh and both Mendes Brothers would disagree with you. It works!!!!
So running your hips away stops the berimbolo, I feel like if you are standing and just keep disengaging at the right time most open guard techniques are shut down... Berimbolo I'm sure is not great BUT if it is the right technique at the right time then it's the right technique... gogoplata isn't great either but I have tapped people with it... tools for the toolbox imo
9:48 He was one microagression away from shouting "rape!!!!"
I have been trying to get into a place in my life where I can go back to bjj. It has been slightly more than a year since my last class and I remember berimbolo’s being huge and everyone was trying to figure out ways to beat it.
I would love to see you and one of the Miyao brothers go at it. Or Levi Jones. They got some new tricks you didn't show. They be using the lapel now for control as well. Better brush up on their game.
Keenan lost as a brown belt..
Title changed, thank you.
Umm... every technique has a counter. The same goes for worm guard.
Thank you for teaching me how to counter the berimbolo I’ll though
this is the 2nd "santa claus isn't real" moment of my life :(
How can your arm be stronger than his leg when holding that cross grip??
I'm out of my depths. All these names if guards and moves lol squid guard to cash slice do you know how this sounds to a beginner
"If you're on bottom, just do worm guard" xD xD xD
I mean this is just silly, you can do a video about any technique in jiu jitsu showing its defences and counters and say they dont work. If it doesnt work how come its still being used? the way you set up your moves is what makes them work, Miyao still hits that berimbolo entry, not as frequently of course. But as any technique, counters get developed, and then counters for those counters. If you only rely on berimbolo of course you will get shut down easily, that just means your guard offense is poor. Again, this just silly, a silly way to promote worm guard, which DOESN'T WORK LOL!
Have you watched how many times Keenan won against miyao who does bolo 24/7
his thing was that the berimbolo only worked because of you letting it work
@@fusilism Yes, he played double pull with every miyao, once both got disqualified for doin it a whole match. Its not like he stood on Paulo or Joao's guard and neutrailze all their sweeps and bolo attempts.
@@Timhttrsn Well yes, when you pass guard you have to stop the guarder sweep or submission attempts with proper posture and grip fighting, thats what its about. It still doesnt mean the berimbolo is ineffective
@signoaspire I would say he knows that, but how is a technique that is often used by 2 time worlds champion Musumeci , or even Paulo. OR RAFA MOTHERFUCKING MENDES less legit than others?
Dan TDM has really changed his channel content
Useful video, not for the berimbolo stuff. Good tips towards the end.
5:48 all i have to do is keep grips and scoot foward
I expect in 2 years for you to say "Worm Guard doesn't work! Just cross face them!"
exactly!
touche ahahhaha
I know someone with multiple world titles that is a fan of berimbolo
Is Keenan on the spectrum?
Just not very structured in his presentation. He's goofy. But awesome!
The color spectrum maybe
I knew if I just waited for this fad to end that eventually I wouldn't have to learn to berimbolo
Awesome tutorial!! Thank you
Punching in a face doesn’t work cause you can do head movement. Ronda Rousey’s coach taught me that
Se começar ambos os atletas sentados a defesa é somente passar o mata leao em uma dos pes do adversario. Vlw kennan
I'm glad I don't have to learn such a stupid move now. Thank you!
It’s not stupid. Every technique has a counter
Before i watched this video someone tried to do this to me i fell but when he tried to continue i just held on to one of his legs he couldnt do anything
Fantastic. Thanks.
I'm pretty confident that every poster who's bashing Keenan would thoroughly fuck you up in a roll 100% of the time.
Just checked the title after viewing Keenan and Mikey Musumeci skype conference.
thanks for sharing !
It won't work in a self defence setting but for sport it's been proven to work time and time again
Craig Jones said berimbolo works. Checkmate Keenan
😂😂
@@JdieNite nigga kakvo ti je to ime WTF
Mikey Musumeci??
Sitting in a white padded room but instead of being in a straight jacket you have to roll with a black belt only using de le riva guard
@10:50 lmaooo dudes face
Adam cheesing out for the camera.
WTF! hahaha!
"we're doing Jiu Jitsu now"
That defense opens you up to get leg-locked though. Easy transition.
We're doing jiu jitsu now... here's my ankle
Your hair stylist technique didnt work either.
Amazing 👌 advice thnx man
Is Keenan a Super Sayain God Blue?
Best uke to date
hahah!! Who is here because of the Mike & Mikey show?
Mas é poderoso esse kennan
You didn´t show from a 50 50 guard
Kennan is turning into Milo
대단해요.....
Keenan vs. Levi Jones, let's see it happen
this was very helpfull!!!
The berimbolo does work... on people who don't know how to defend it or don't time their defense correctly.
I see the influence of Mikey Musumeci here!
Useful~~`~~``It is excellent.
That was awesome
How many steroids is Adam Bradley and Alex Sterner on that’s the question.
Hay Keenan, the guys at RGA faringdon are loveing your blue hair die all over their expensive white academy GIs.
Thanks for the advice .
Feiroze Akhter because gis are meant to be kept pristine? Lol
Mikey Musumeci and Mendes Brothers disliked this video.
The only American to win gold twice at IBJJF worlds might disagree.
As you drop the mic and walk away🤙
Exactly and what about the mendez brothers andd the miyao brothers...
Keenan cant even win worlds but miyaos and mendez won worlds multiple times with berimbolo
Keenan should try beat LO instead of talking
SuperN0IS3 wrong.
purple belt's neck size is the same as his pant size
And this is why Keenan was asked to leave Atos.
All that time spent trying to be like the miyaos just for Keenan the Lord of Jujitsu to pronounce the death of berimbolos
so what you're saying is, that it doesn't work in one particular situation because you know a defense (that may or my not, depending on the opponent) put you at risk for a knee bar..
Rafael Mendes said the scramble to a better position like taking the back is the berimbo. Not necessarily the short dela riva. Once u bump em over and scramble in anyway(leg drag, crab ride etc) to get get the back. That's the berimbolo. At least that's what I remember rafa saying.
U COOL MASTER BIG UP