A simple DNA test would give convincing evidence of Queen Charlotte's ancestry. Even if her remains are only bones, a strand of her hair and any miniscule amount of her bone marrow should be enough to give accurate results. Of course, getting the permission of the British royal family to exhume her body to collect specimens from her skeletal remains is another matter, but I think technology wise, it's possible if the question about her lineage must someday be absolutely established. However, your recreations of Charlotte I think tell the tale of who she really was, despite the vagaries in the talents of contemporary artists who tried to paint her image for posterity.
"Mama's baby, papa's maybe". She could easily be the product of an affair -- or one of her parents the product of an affair -- because she doesn't look like either of her parents. Just look at Sandra Laing, a clearly black woman born to white parents in South Africa due to someone in her mother's side "passing" for white generations back. They made a movie about it called "Skin" in 2008. I definitely think that Charlotte was part African American, as her hair seems more poofy than most.
@@jeffthomas2364 I think this person is saying that just because Charlotte had a big nose and lips does not automatically mean she was of African descent, as Africans do not have a monopoly on these features lol
What made them feel like she might have more direct African blood is due to her features : her nose and full lips. However, as a Black woman, I have seen white women with these features as well. In my opinion she is one of the more beautiful European queens!!
@이지민-j5w Firstly it is never an insult to be black. Secondly, maybe not in case there were a lot of biracial people passing as white or people identifying as white with African blood. This channel was just providing context, your comment was not necessary.
I look 100% white due to my European ancestors but I am also African as my 5th great grandfather was from Africa and a slave in USA. My 3 sons you can tell they are mixed race. Funny thing is my DNA test does not show that far back so my African DNA was 0.03% but my middle son his was 8% African. Funny how genetics do that. You can't judge a book by the cover for sure.
Many pure Caucasian people have wide noses and thick lips. There is a big diversity of features within white people (just like any other ethnicity), and not everyone has small pointy noses and thin lips.
True, my dad has a wide nose, i have full lips, we did a dna test each and are both basically fully irish with admixtures from other white ethnicities.
My brother married a woman of the same background as Queen Charlotte. His daughters have extremely wide flat noses and big lips but are not African in the slightest (DNA tested). My brother and I are part German and even our noses are a wee wide, but not as wide as my sister-in-law and my nieces. They are lovely, but they don't have the "stereotypical" look though their look is fairly common in Northern Europe.
Her ancestor wasn't even black nor moorish. .. Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''. • Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''. • *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
@@tatianaoliveira2191 Thank you for the context! That definitely weakens the argument for her being biracial, or at least being partly black. It sounds like at the very most, she may have had more of an olive complexion. But considering the sources describe her as "pale," that doesn't seem very likely either.
Assuming her ancestor Madragana was indeed black(she was a Moore which could have meant she was black but not necessarily) , that was 15 generations before her so she wouldn’t look even remotely black. If she looked black then she probably had other black ancestors.
Based on the research of her genealogical “tree,” it seems unlikely that she presented as Black, but any parent could agree that it’s fascinating how even recessive and “throwback” genes can combine and show up. Most likely, Charlotte was simply uncommon and less homogeneous than European aristocrats were used to. Presented as a modern woman, she would be considered quite beautiful. Thank you for your thoughtful, fascinating videos.
If the Kings family thought she was any typed of mixed the marriage wouldn't of taken place. No Royal Family didnt want tainted blood of any kind. Many times they married family. She probably didn't look like the standards at the time and was judged. It was done before with other Royals.
Can people please stop in trying to rewrite history ... She was an european (German) princess and she was not biracial which is clearly seen in the lineage of her parents ... even if it doesent fit the current political and social narrative ... Bridgerton is just a show, its not accurate its a fantasy ...
So if she was really mixed race, that means you are what? Racist? Does the thought that she might be biracial piss you off? Seems it does. She is not rewriting history but stating what people are asking and maybe she was.
Are people "re-writing history" when the British government of the time claimed the Queen was of mixed ancestry during her lifetime? They literally used it to recruit Africans into the British Army and Navy during the American Revolution.
Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''. • Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''. • *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal). --- P.S.: The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco. • They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers)
@@monmothma3358 No, Charlotte would look white. Charlotte's so called moorish ancestor was an ethnically white Portuguese woman (she simply converted to Islam) And even if that ancestor was middle eastern.. after 400 years, that wouldn't do anything to Charlotte's phenotype
My grandmother was from Austria and her lineage goes back generations in the Southern Germany/Northern Austrian region. Her family all had these similar features and brown eyes. I have read that in this area, the German DNA was more influenced by the Romans, which could explain more of a Southern European look. Just a thought.
She was European, she looked European, she just didn't fit the European beauty standards of that time. By the contemporary descriptions, she wasn't beautiful but her personality made up for that.
The paintings remind me of my 96 year old German grandmother, who always had a large nose with wide, flat nostrils, and protruding lips, even when she was younger.
I love your channel not just because of your fantastic reconstructions, but your amazing presentation of each historical figure you cover. You did such a great job digging into, and fleshing out, what is an otherwise contentious topic for our time.
I say the same thing every post: I always look forward to these posts. You really humanize historical figures in a way that is unmatched. The connections you create are remarkable.
The new fad of "color blind" casting doesn't change historical characters. ""ill colored" means pale /sickly. Henry Walpole described her as pale... No reputable historians, or Royal archivists or Royal librarians agree with Mario de Valdes y Cocom's fantasy claims.
@RedRisotto unfortunately, most people today know very little about history. People had a huge fit when Gal Gadot was to play Cleopatra because Gadot isnt black. People think that Cleopatra was black due to her being in Northern Africa(Egypt), but fait to realize that she was Greek. Ptolemy was a general under Alexander the great. After Alexander died his empire was divided into 4 nations and Ptolemy became the king of Egypt(part of the Greek Empire at the time). Cleopatra was the grand daughter of ptolemy and would have had an olive Complexion. Gadot would have been perfect for the role, but people know very little about history.
Your recreations are stunning! I don’t understand how we decide that people who don’t fit the current norm of beauty aren’t beautiful! I think she was beautiful. And whether she was biracial or not is not clear unless there was a secret in her lineage, which certainly has happened before.
In all the portrait where she is said to look mixed race, the feature that stands out to me is that she had kind looking eyes. She appears to me to have been someone that would have been a kind person.
Your discussion of the unlikeliness of Charlotte having the features of one black ancestor from 500 years ago is valid. But also when you said that I immediately thought of the side-by-side images of The Cheddar Man and his currently alive descendant; the two men look VERY related.
The fact that she’s been portrayed by Helen Mirren, Golda Rosheuvel and India Amarteifio really has to be one of the most interesting casting choices for a real life figure.
As a red-blooded American man, all I'm seeing here is a dang good looking woman I'd be proud to ask for a drink. Provided, of course, that she wasn't already spoken for. Cheers for all the great work that you do!
2:47 I actually see facial features that are prominent with members of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (Windsor) family: e.g. the slightly googly eyes and the lower part of the face. Look at George V.
wait she had one arab ancestor from 500 years ago, she was basically biracial lol and i love how netflix casted a biracial because even a quarter black actress would've been too white lol
Sir Walter Scott was quite mistaken and backwards in his describing her skin as "ill colored" by comparing it to actual skin coloring or lack thereof in his normal view of people around him including himself. "Ill colored" would suggest lack of color or not of much color or even a coloring attempt that was lacking or ill completed. Likewise, "Ill mannered" means of less manners not more. or of lacking in manners and not of having more manners
@@giggle_snort people have commented that Queen Charlotte was very pale even amongst white people... not rare people said she might be "too white" or too pale. idk why people still take this seriously like millions of people saw Queen Charlotte, she lived a long life, peasant to slave owners saw what she looked like and not one actually said she look black or something
As a bi-racial person, it is offensive to me when people try to re-write history. We are human and that means people of one race can look like people from another... I've seen lookalikes of famous people that are from different cultures. Queen Charlotte was European we have the proof.
I think the argument relies on there having been an extra marital affair closer to her time. The portrait and verbal descriptions do not sound biracial to me. Sounds like she just had a unique face. It happens in all races.
@@fredo1070 I looked this up because my Grandmother who had a lot of European Royal Ancestry used to be very specific when I asked her questions... and she always said that her ancestors in Spain had been fair, I think with red hair and blue eyes, because it was before the Moors had, mixed in, not sure of the best way to put that. She always led me to believe the Moors were Black, so I googled and found this: " “Moor” was a generic term for Muslim North Africans and Iberians and could mean anyone from Arabs and Berbers who looked much like other Mediterranean peoples to Malinese who were what would be called “black” today, and even included Mozarabs, ethnic Visigoths who had adopted Islam."
Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor wasn't even ethnically moorish. ▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''. • ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. . ▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
I had a friend in high school who had a wide nose and full lips but was the pastiest person I had ever met. She also had natural frizzy pale butter colored hair, black eye brows and eye lashes, and brown eyes. Definitely an interesting looking person.
Whatever her race, she's stunning. I think the hardest part of these videos for me, is learning how poorly women were treated. Picked apart and stressed constantly to basically be baby machines.
I was raised near Mirow where Charlotte was from. It‘s really beautiful but remote at the same time. Today it’s about a 2 hour drive up north from Berlin to Mirow.
I think we tend to underestimate the amount of overlap in physical features between the different races. A lot of members of the House of Hanover were noted to have "generous" or "sensual" lips, and they were also of Germanic stock. That being said, it should be noted that even meticulously-documented lineages can't necessarily spot "non-paternity events". So who knows?
So a couple of things when we talk about the genealogy the concept of white and black was not introduced until around the 1700/1800 people before this time identified themselves culturally by their homeland so if you were born in Germany you identify as German so in the line of her genealogy it wouldn’t have said so to speak this is the black side or this is the white side. And it notes her Moorish ancestry. Secondly there is such a thing as white passing people of color, so the skin color and even features are white passing. And third skin tone is a recessive gene it’s not dominant. So I will give the example which happened in South Africa 2 white parent gave birth to a black child that was genetically both parents child. At some point in one of the parents genetic line there was a white passing person and it was quite the surprise for the family. You can google the story it’s a movie and documentary about it. It’s the story of Sandra Laning. Not saying all this to say I believe Queen Charlotte was black or mixed race but I do think there were many things that need some context provided.
I’ve never even heard of Queen Charlotte. I find this fascinating! Your final portrait is stunning! I love that you added a smile. I rarely think of these royals ever smiling or laughing. 🙌🏻
My brother had a thing for black women growing up. Eventually, he married a woman of mostly Northern German descent (like Queen Charlotte) who had a large flat nose, big lips and a sizeable keister. Her daughter took a DNA test and was . . . .100% European!
The beauty standards back then were pale skin, small noses, and thin lips, in the belief that these characteristics denoted gentility and purity. That full, sexy mouth of hers would have been considered vulgar. Marie Antoinette's lips were considered too thick too. I think Queen Charlotte was beautiful and it seemed that King George III thought so too.
As a resident of North Carolina, in the city of Charlotte, N.C. (Mecklenburg County)there is a massive bronze statue of Queen Charlotte at the CLT AIRPORT.
There's also an adorable t-tiny, life-size statue of her on College and 5th St. in Uptown. 2 of Allan Ramsay's portraits of the King and Queen are also hanging on the wall at Charlotte's Mint Museum, Randolph. Or at least they were when I lived in CLT a few years ago.
I think her portraits are incredibly inconsistent and if you lined them all up next to each other I would NOT say they are the same woman based on facial features.Portraits are very political and are highly edited. Portrait artists were certainly altering features that didn't fit the beauty standard of the time but I think it would be akin to us using a blurring filter. It's not suggesting you are mixed race.
actually the consistent face did appear and were painted by the greatest painters of that time, particularly the one by Thomas Lawrence which she loathed but people said it's the most accurate lol
I love the Hanoverian Queens, Ecpecially Charlotte and and Caroline of Braganza. Your Voice is so soothing and your Recreation are so beautiful. I'm always waiting for your next video. Keep the great work!
Thank you very much, as always, you did a great video ❤ I can understand why people seeing a woman of colour, but as a German, I think she looks really familiar to me ❤
If the British royal family even thought Charlotte might be mixed race, they would not have agreed to the marriage. Based on that alone, I wouldn’t consider her mixed race in any way.
Amazing my God you are so good at what you do. Every time you create someone it makes me cry. It is so beautiful 🤩 I watch are rewatch your videos. Bravo 👏 ❤
If by biracial you mean distantly Portuguese, then yes. But that isn’t what was meant. People really need to stop reaching for things that aren’t there.
I love the Queen Charlotte show, but there's a lot about that show (and the books) that aren't historically accurate. To be fair, other fans and I don't watch it for the accuracy lol.
The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco. ▪︎ They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers) ... As for Charlotte's ancestor... ▪︎ Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor, Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''. • ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam. . ▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''. • Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
Some Moors were Black from what I have found. But Netflix has gone full on Woke like Disney who literally turned snow white black. I don't mind if it's true, but I don;t like that they keep trying to change things when they are clearly not factual. Like tell us your own stories about you and that will be awesome. But people are agitating to create division. I even read that several European Kings AND Mary Queen of Scots was supposedly Black African... SMH. Those are my ancestors and I am VERY white. They were not Black, I would not even mind if they were. But they were not. Netfilx, shall I remind also has all of Egypt in an uproar over Cleopatra, so... Yeah.
@@tatianaoliveira2191 The moors elite were mainly of Middle Eastern descent but if you want to pretend North and West African cavalry and tradesmen weren’t regularly riding through Iberia post-711. It amazes me how European people go out of their way to distance themselves from anything African like blackness is a disgrace or something. The black Moors made up the minor nobles and they were there and did marry white people(Iberian Ancestors).
@@Gravelgratious sure, sure... We were under the control of the ''Umayyad caliphate'' (Saudi Arabia), the 'Almoravid dynasty' (Moroccan Berber) and the 'Almohad caliphate' (Moroccan Berber) • We weren't under control of the 'Mali empire' (or other Sub-Saharan empires) North Africans/Berbers aren't the same as Sub-Saharan blacks. • That's like saying Indians and Chinese are the same just because both are Asians.
Imagine the cope when you have to clutch at straws to find blk people in European Royalty 😅.. anyway your recreation was amazing! ❤ so pretty but possibly didnt meet the beauty standards at the time. Her husband certainly wasnt complaining. 😊
There’s also certain conditions that can distort facial features & stunt growth. The eyes can look very rounded & bulging, the nose can be flatter, broader & continues to grow at a much faster rate than people who don’t have the disorder(s). Even the face shape can be changed. Something as simple as a complex thyroid condition can cause similar physical symptoms. I’m not saying that her small stature & more so-called “exotic” facial features are caused by a then unknown metabolic condition; I’m saying that people in the 21st century have to disregard simple physical features as proof of ethnic lineage. The chances that historical figures actually did suffer from many of the same diseases & metabolic syndromes we do, but in their time hundreds of years ago had been unknown, should force us to more thoroughly investigate ancestry before we make claims. How many times have historians misread disease as a physical characteristic? Just the chance means that we must be more diligent in our consensus unless rewriting history is the only goal…
She was German, so naturally she’s beautiful, cultured. Without any doubt this alone meant I understand that she would have faced prejudice. Your interpretation is wonderful, thank you ♥️(side note, I am not German, I am Māori and thus know full well when unjust prejudice and it’s ugliness arises)
It doesn't but there is a narrative they'd like to fit in for Bridgerton TV series but not the Bridgerton book series. TV and the Internet is rotting people's minds. They can't think without someone trying to push an ideology in there first. Comes back to common sense or a lack there of.
My great grandmother was full blooded American Indian. My grandmother and my mother looked quite a bit native American. I however, especially as a child, had light blonde hair and pale blue eyes. I have difficulty imagining that one ancestor from 500 years before could make a significant impact on her coloring or features. Thank you for your videos - beautifully done!!
In the modern recreations, she's certainly quite beautiful. As I watched, a beautiful girl who had been on British television came to mind. Ruby, who was on the Great British Bake-off. Her father was unambiguously Ghanian and her mom was white, perhaps British, I can't remember. Ruby had naturally light colored eyes and had golden blonde hair from childhood.
I look 100% Native American as my siblings look Causation or have a hint of Spanish to their physical features, while all of my maternal biological and paternal biological aunts look Irish mostly. I get my features from my 7 times great grandmother on my paternal side. No one else has this but me. Genetics can be clever and pop up anywhere randomly. I love that. However, no proof means we must stay away from possibles as a rule, they are mere possibles. Nothing more.
I'm Lakota and both my parents were Lakota and enrolled in our tribe at Standing Rock. There is no phenotype for Native/ Indigenous people. Most tribes have had intermarriage with other tribes from different parts of the continent and non-Native people at some point. If you mean the old historical photos, most Native people spent most of their lives outdoors and looked more suntanned than the they do currently. The "Native American phenotype" is a trope that is used to exclude Native people who favor how a a non-Native parent or grandparent looks whether they are Black, Asian or European descendant by saying they don't look Native enough. Our identity is based on our involvement in our various cultures, languages and communities.
@@gnostic268 Exactly. While it is unfortunate that most of the tribes were wiped out, it's unfair to expect that Lakotas or other tribes only marry within their tribes as a form of racial purity test or "museum piece." It's not just insensitive, but harmful as inbreeding can lead to major deformities. There's just not enough Lakotas nor Native Americans to provide enough marriage and mating options without ending up with an inbred population.
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I think she looks a lot like one of my aunt's, who happened to inherit her mother's VERY VERY German DNA.
Can you do Philippa of Hainault, please?
A simple DNA test would give convincing evidence of Queen Charlotte's ancestry. Even if her remains are only bones, a strand of her hair and any miniscule amount of her bone marrow should be enough to give accurate results. Of course, getting the permission of the British royal family to exhume her body to collect specimens from her skeletal remains is another matter, but I think technology wise, it's possible if the question about her lineage must someday be absolutely established. However, your recreations of Charlotte I think tell the tale of who she really was, despite the vagaries in the talents of contemporary artists who tried to paint her image for posterity.
Charlotte (Mecklenburg County) North Carolina. Also known as "the Queen City."
"Mama's baby, papa's maybe". She could easily be the product of an affair -- or one of her parents the product of an affair -- because she doesn't look like either of her parents. Just look at Sandra Laing, a clearly black woman born to white parents in South Africa due to someone in her mother's side "passing" for white generations back. They made a movie about it called "Skin" in 2008. I definitely think that Charlotte was part African American, as her hair seems more poofy than most.
People do realize that not all African people have big lips and noses, right? They know those traits aren't limited to Africans, _right?_
Apparently not. It's frightening how ignorant and narrow-minded people can be.
Well it appears having full lips and a wide mouth means you are black ....lol
We know BUT Queen Charlotte was NOT Black or Bi racial though.
Not in the 18th century, they didn't.
@@jeffthomas2364 I think this person is saying that just because Charlotte had a big nose and lips does not automatically mean she was of African descent, as Africans do not have a monopoly on these features lol
What made them feel like she might have more direct African blood is due to her features : her nose and full lips. However, as a Black woman, I have seen white women with these features as well. In my opinion she is one of the more beautiful European queens!!
She was not white. If you research you would know this
Best answer.
And even back in her time she was called that as an insult too, so we really should quit the revisionist history
@이지민-j5w Firstly it is never an insult to be black. Secondly, maybe not in case there were a lot of biracial people passing as white or people identifying as white with African blood. This channel was just providing context, your comment was not necessary.
I look 100% white due to my European ancestors but I am also African as my 5th great grandfather was from Africa and a slave in USA. My 3 sons you can tell they are mixed race. Funny thing is my DNA test does not show that far back so my African DNA was 0.03% but my middle son his was 8% African. Funny how genetics do that. You can't judge a book by the cover for sure.
She's a German lady with large lips and a somewhat bigger nose. She's beautiful
Many pure Caucasian people have wide noses and thick lips.
There is a big diversity of features within white people (just like any other ethnicity), and not everyone has small pointy noses and thin lips.
Exactly .. some people of the German ethnicity look similar to this .. she was a German woman not a black woman of African ancestry
True, my dad has a wide nose, i have full lips, we did a dna test each and are both basically fully irish with admixtures from other white ethnicities.
My brother married a woman of the same background as Queen Charlotte. His daughters have extremely wide flat noses and big lips but are not African in the slightest (DNA tested). My brother and I are part German and even our noses are a wee wide, but not as wide as my sister-in-law and my nieces. They are lovely, but they don't have the "stereotypical" look though their look is fairly common in Northern Europe.
Exactly dad had a big nose and he was White
Yes I am living proof !
Having a black ancestor from centuries before doesn’t make you black. People just reaching like they always do.
Her ancestor wasn't even black nor moorish.
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Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''.
• Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''.
• *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
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@@tatianaoliveira2191 Thank you for the context! That definitely weakens the argument for her being biracial, or at least being partly black. It sounds like at the very most, she may have had more of an olive complexion. But considering the sources describe her as "pale," that doesn't seem very likely either.
@@tatianaoliveira2191exactly and thanks for pointing that out
Assuming her ancestor Madragana was indeed black(she was a Moore which could have meant she was black but not necessarily) , that was 15 generations before her so she wouldn’t look even remotely black. If she looked black then she probably had other black ancestors.
Based on the research of her genealogical “tree,” it seems unlikely that she presented as Black, but any parent could agree that it’s fascinating how even recessive and “throwback” genes can combine and show up. Most likely, Charlotte was simply uncommon and less homogeneous than European aristocrats were used to. Presented as a modern woman, she would be considered quite beautiful.
Thank you for your thoughtful, fascinating videos.
I don't think she's all that much different looking than other women of her era. People are grasping at straws.
I agree. Absolutely.
If the Kings family thought she was any typed of mixed the marriage wouldn't of taken place. No Royal Family didnt want tainted blood of any kind. Many times they married family. She probably didn't look like the standards at the time and was judged. It was done before with other Royals.
This is quite likely what happened here. The royal family has these genes as do many Europeans and it’s nothing to be scared of. She is beautiful.
Can people please stop in trying to rewrite history ... She was an european (German) princess and she was not biracial which is clearly seen in the lineage of her parents ... even if it doesent fit the current political and social narrative ...
Bridgerton is just a show, its not accurate its a fantasy ...
So if she was really mixed race, that means you are what? Racist? Does the thought that she might be biracial piss you off? Seems it does. She is not rewriting history but stating what people are asking and maybe she was.
Are people "re-writing history" when the British government of the time claimed the Queen was of mixed ancestry during her lifetime? They literally used it to recruit Africans into the British Army and Navy during the American Revolution.
Well they said she was biracial all these years for a reason so I believe it definitely could be possible..
@@Thefinerthings74 my god your parents should have worn protection
@@Satu-zs7gm But your mama should have took you out when you was in the belly 🤡
I always find it quite emotional when you reveal the moving, realistic imagery at the end, its like they have come to life before our eyes
It's the music for sure. Watch on mute.
Queen Charlotte 's so called ''moorish'' ancestor (Madragana Ben Aloandro) was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a *''Muladí''.
• Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was a ''Muladí''.
• *''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
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P.S.:
The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco.
• They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers)
So.. she'd look like Arabs or Moroccans today? Is that what you're saying?
@@monmothma3358 No, Charlotte would look white.
Charlotte's so called moorish ancestor was an ethnically white Portuguese woman (she simply converted to Islam)
And even if that ancestor was middle eastern.. after 400 years, that wouldn't do anything to Charlotte's phenotype
@@tatianaoliveira2191 Thank you. Yes, I was referring to the ancestor, not Charlotte, who must have looked white.
@@monmothma3358 oh, ok
I'm so tired of people thinking the moors were black
My grandmother was from Austria and her lineage goes back generations in the Southern Germany/Northern Austrian region. Her family all had these similar features and brown eyes. I have read that in this area, the German DNA was more influenced by the Romans, which could explain more of a Southern European look. Just a thought.
She was European, she looked European, she just didn't fit the European beauty standards of that time. By the contemporary descriptions, she wasn't beautiful but her personality made up for that.
The paintings remind me of my 96 year old German grandmother, who always had a large nose with wide, flat nostrils, and protruding lips, even when she was younger.
She looks a lot like a German friend of mine as well.
I love your channel not just because of your fantastic reconstructions, but your amazing presentation of each historical figure you cover. You did such a great job digging into, and fleshing out, what is an otherwise contentious topic for our time.
Thank you! We do read, and appreciate comments like this
I say the same thing every post: I always look forward to these posts. You really humanize historical figures in a way that is unmatched. The connections you create are remarkable.
Thank you so much. We try!
Regardless of whatever race she was or wasn't Charlotte was absolutely gorgeous! One of Europe's most beautiful Queens
The majority of historians reject the theory that Charlotte was of colour and I agree.
The new fad of "color blind" casting doesn't change historical characters. ""ill colored" means pale /sickly. Henry Walpole described her as pale... No reputable historians, or Royal archivists or Royal librarians agree with Mario de Valdes y Cocom's fantasy claims.
@RedRisotto unfortunately, most people today know very little about history. People had a huge fit when Gal Gadot was to play Cleopatra because Gadot isnt black. People think that Cleopatra was black due to her being in Northern Africa(Egypt), but fait to realize that she was Greek. Ptolemy was a general under Alexander the great. After Alexander died his empire was divided into 4 nations and Ptolemy became the king of Egypt(part of the Greek Empire at the time). Cleopatra was the grand daughter of ptolemy and would have had an olive Complexion. Gadot would have been perfect for the role, but people know very little about history.
Of course she wasn't
History doesn’t matter anymore. It’s being rewritten for the sake of diversity.
I agree she was
She is quite beautiful, actually your recreation looks better than the portraits
BRB adding “My animation counters my physical defects” to my CV.
You should do George III now that you have done Queen Charlotte
OMG!! I requested Queen Charlotte!! 😱 this is amazing! Thank you so much Becca and Andre for this video! I can’t wait to watch it after work!!!
Ever single human on this planet is of “mixed race” it’s just how mixed we are
There's no such thing as human races anyways from a biological standpoint.
Your recreations are stunning! I don’t understand how we decide that people who don’t fit the current norm of beauty aren’t beautiful! I think she was beautiful. And whether she was biracial or not is not clear unless there was a secret in her lineage, which certainly has happened before.
Beautifully done as always Becca, the clincher (for me) is your modern representation as we all know people who look like that.
In all the portrait where she is said to look mixed race, the feature that stands out to me is that she had kind looking eyes. She appears to me to have been someone that would have been a kind person.
Your discussion of the unlikeliness of Charlotte having the features of one black ancestor from 500 years ago is valid. But also when you said that I immediately thought of the side-by-side images of The Cheddar Man and his currently alive descendant; the two men look VERY related.
Have we looked at any of his more recent ancestors? I bet he looks a lot more like them.
The fact that she’s been portrayed by Helen Mirren, Golda Rosheuvel and India Amarteifio really has to be one of the most interesting casting choices for a real life figure.
As a red-blooded American man, all I'm seeing here is a dang good looking woman I'd be proud to ask for a drink. Provided, of course, that she wasn't already spoken for. Cheers for all the great work that you do!
2:47 I actually see facial features that are prominent with members of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (Windsor) family: e.g. the slightly googly eyes and the lower part of the face. Look at George V.
I think you may be right! By the way, thanks for sticking around and watching our videos all this time
Saying she was black just because of a painting is ridiculous tbh.
wait she had one arab ancestor from 500 years ago, she was basically biracial lol and i love how netflix casted a biracial because even a quarter black actress would've been too white lol
She just had broader features is all, not black
She wasn’t black ,.
Sir Walter Scott was quite mistaken and backwards in his describing her skin as "ill colored" by comparing it to actual skin coloring or lack thereof in his normal view of people around him including himself. "Ill colored" would suggest lack of color or not of much color or even a coloring attempt that was lacking or ill completed. Likewise, "Ill mannered" means of less manners not more. or of lacking in manners and not of having more manners
That's a good point. He probably did mean that she was too pale. Either way, it's just one man's opinion.
@@giggle_snort people have commented that Queen Charlotte was very pale even amongst white people... not rare people said she might be "too white" or too pale. idk why people still take this seriously like millions of people saw Queen Charlotte, she lived a long life, peasant to slave owners saw what she looked like and not one actually said she look black or something
As a bi-racial person, it is offensive to me when people try to re-write history. We are human and that means people of one race can look like people from another... I've seen lookalikes of famous people that are from different cultures. Queen Charlotte was European we have the proof.
It is blatantly absurd to think of Charlotte as black. Bridgerton is an absolutely inaccurate historical mess.
Its just pandering to the times
Why are you so mad about it though
@@Ebyangel Because it's not historically correct goofy
Never watched it because of this. 😂😂
@@Ebyangelagreed yikes
Beautiful. She wasn't a woman of color though. Her Moorish ancestor lived 500 years before her birth. 😊
I think the argument relies on there having been an extra marital affair closer to her time.
The portrait and verbal descriptions do not sound biracial to me. Sounds like she just had a unique face. It happens in all races.
And Moorish were Arabs.
Yes, they were called “the black Portuguese” but that didn’t mean black in skin color
@@fredo1070 I looked this up because my Grandmother who had a lot of European Royal Ancestry used to be very specific when I asked her questions... and she always said that her ancestors in Spain had been fair, I think with red hair and blue eyes, because it was before the Moors had, mixed in, not sure of the best way to put that. She always led me to believe the Moors were Black, so I googled and found this:
" “Moor” was a generic term for Muslim North Africans and Iberians and could mean anyone from Arabs and Berbers who looked much like other Mediterranean peoples to Malinese who were what would be called “black” today, and even included Mozarabs, ethnic Visigoths who had adopted Islam."
Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor wasn't even ethnically moorish.
▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''.
• ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
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▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
I had a friend in high school who had a wide nose and full lips but was the pastiest person I had ever met. She also had natural frizzy pale butter colored hair, black eye brows and eye lashes, and brown eyes. Definitely an interesting looking person.
I know full 100% genetic Europeans of German descent who look like that. It's not the most common look, but you will find it among Germans.
Whatever her race, she's stunning. I think the hardest part of these videos for me, is learning how poorly women were treated. Picked apart and stressed constantly to basically be baby machines.
here yall go, idk maybe you would rather be a black slave man huh! the nerve of stp d yt women complaining about their yt privilege
I was raised near Mirow where Charlotte was from. It‘s really beautiful but remote at the same time. Today it’s about a 2 hour drive up north from Berlin to Mirow.
I live near Mirow too...right now^^
I've got no idea but your image of modern day Charlotte is very pretty..
Great video..♥️🌹
I think we tend to underestimate the amount of overlap in physical features between the different races. A lot of members of the House of Hanover were noted to have "generous" or "sensual" lips, and they were also of Germanic stock.
That being said, it should be noted that even meticulously-documented lineages can't necessarily spot "non-paternity events". So who knows?
I miss the old videos where you showed us the process of the recreation. Is there a chnce to get them back, once in a while?
OMG, as soon as the music 🎶 starts 😢😢😢😢 Doesn't matter about her Ancestory, colour, race. Marvellous Job Becca, as always. TY from the UK ❤
So a couple of things when we talk about the genealogy the concept of white and black was not introduced until around the 1700/1800 people before this time identified themselves culturally by their homeland so if you were born in Germany you identify as German so in the line of her genealogy it wouldn’t have said so to speak this is the black side or this is the white side. And it notes her Moorish ancestry. Secondly there is such a thing as white passing people of color, so the skin color and even features are white passing. And third skin tone is a recessive gene it’s not dominant. So I will give the example which happened in South Africa 2 white parent gave birth to a black child that was genetically both parents child. At some point in one of the parents genetic line there was a white passing person and it was quite the surprise for the family. You can google the story it’s a movie and documentary about it. It’s the story of Sandra Laning. Not saying all this to say I believe Queen Charlotte was black or mixed race but I do think there were many things that need some context provided.
12:18 Omg, she looks so much like Daniela Melchior a portuguese actress!
I’ve never even heard of Queen Charlotte. I find this fascinating! Your final portrait is stunning! I love that you added a smile. I rarely think of these royals ever smiling or laughing. 🙌🏻
My brother had a thing for black women growing up. Eventually, he married a woman of mostly Northern German descent (like Queen Charlotte) who had a large flat nose, big lips and a sizeable keister. Her daughter took a DNA test and was . . . .100% European!
The beauty standards back then were pale skin, small noses, and thin lips, in the belief that these characteristics denoted gentility and purity. That full, sexy mouth of hers would have been considered vulgar. Marie Antoinette's lips were considered too thick too. I think Queen Charlotte was beautiful and it seemed that King George III thought so too.
I love your depictions of historical figures. ❤❤❤
As a resident of North Carolina, in the city of Charlotte, N.C. (Mecklenburg County)there is a massive bronze statue of Queen Charlotte at the CLT AIRPORT.
Really? That's kind of cool!
There's also an adorable t-tiny, life-size statue of her on College and 5th St. in Uptown.
2 of Allan Ramsay's portraits of the King and Queen are also hanging on the wall at Charlotte's Mint Museum, Randolph. Or at least they were when I lived in CLT a few years ago.
I think her portraits are incredibly inconsistent and if you lined them all up next to each other I would NOT say they are the same woman based on facial features.Portraits are very political and are highly edited. Portrait artists were certainly altering features that didn't fit the beauty standard of the time but I think it would be akin to us using a blurring filter. It's not suggesting you are mixed race.
actually the consistent face did appear and were painted by the greatest painters of that time, particularly the one by Thomas Lawrence which she loathed but people said it's the most accurate lol
I love the Hanoverian Queens, Ecpecially Charlotte and and Caroline of Braganza. Your Voice is so soothing and your Recreation are so beautiful. I'm always waiting for your next video. Keep the great work!
This is my absolute favorite episode yet! Your recreation is just stunning! So beautiful I’m actually in awe. It almost made me emotional 😊 Love it!
Thanks for the explanation and the recreations. A pretty young girl whose life was transformed.
Please can you do Margareth of Anjou
I traced my maternal ancestry back to sybilla of Anjou. that would be another recreation I’d love to see
Thank you very much, as always, you did a great video ❤ I can understand why people seeing a woman of colour, but as a German, I think she looks really familiar to me ❤
I love watching your rec.
Reations of these past historical figuresi learned so much from your channel.
Thank you for all your hard work.❤
If the British royal family even thought Charlotte might be mixed race, they would not have agreed to the marriage. Based on that alone, I wouldn’t consider her mixed race in any way.
Bingo! They would've rejected her had she been Catholic.
She must of been so very elegant & stunning beauty of that era Amazing live the end how she looked ❤❤❤
Idk but based on her pictures, it’s amazing how she wasn’t considered beautiful 😢
Amazing my God you are so good at what you do.
Every time you create someone it makes me cry.
It is so beautiful 🤩 I watch are rewatch your videos.
Bravo 👏 ❤
If by biracial you mean distantly Portuguese, then yes. But that isn’t what was meant. People really need to stop reaching for things that aren’t there.
I get happy every time I see you post
Gosh this argument goes around and round what are people frightened of ??
Having their illusions dashed. 😂
She’s stunning 😍
Been waiting for this one!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
My whole family is multi-racial and honestly Charlotte resembles some of my family members even going back 150 years
I really don't care what her race is they were very happy together that's all that matters
I love the Queen Charlotte show, but there's a lot about that show (and the books) that aren't historically accurate. To be fair, other fans and I don't watch it for the accuracy lol.
No Way Queen Charlotte was black like Netflix states . She had Moorish ancestry, the Moors inhabited the northern part of Africa .
Spain, and Sicily too
The so called ''Moors'' that were here in Portugal (and Spain) were original from Saudi Arabia and Morocco.
▪︎ They were West Asians/Arabs and Imazighen (Berbers)
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As for Charlotte's ancestor...
▪︎ Charlotte's ''moorish'' ancestor, Madragana Ben Aloandro was an ethnically Portuguese (European / white) woman and a ''Muladí''.
• ''Muladís'' are ethnic Iberians that converted to Islam.
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▪︎ Madragana Ben Aloandro, was the daughter of Aloandro ben Bekr (Governor of Faro, Portugal), who was ''Muladí''.
• Madragana's family belonged to the ''Banu Harún'', an important Muladí family from Faro (Algarve, Portugal).
Some Moors were Black from what I have found. But Netflix has gone full on Woke like Disney who literally turned snow white black. I don't mind if it's true, but I don;t like that they keep trying to change things when they are clearly not factual. Like tell us your own stories about you and that will be awesome. But people are agitating to create division. I even read that several European Kings AND Mary Queen of Scots was supposedly Black African... SMH. Those are my ancestors and I am VERY white. They were not Black, I would not even mind if they were. But they were not. Netfilx, shall I remind also has all of Egypt in an uproar over Cleopatra, so... Yeah.
@@tatianaoliveira2191 The moors elite were mainly of Middle Eastern descent but if you want to pretend North and West African cavalry and tradesmen weren’t regularly riding through Iberia post-711. It amazes me how European people go out of their way to distance themselves from anything African like blackness is a disgrace or something. The black Moors made up the minor nobles and they were there and did marry white people(Iberian Ancestors).
@@Gravelgratious sure, sure...
We were under the control of the ''Umayyad caliphate'' (Saudi Arabia), the 'Almoravid dynasty' (Moroccan Berber) and the 'Almohad caliphate' (Moroccan Berber)
• We weren't under control of the 'Mali empire' (or other Sub-Saharan empires)
North Africans/Berbers aren't the same as Sub-Saharan blacks.
• That's like saying Indians and Chinese are the same just because both are Asians.
Imagine the cope when you have to clutch at straws to find blk people in European Royalty 😅.. anyway your recreation was amazing! ❤ so pretty but possibly didnt meet the beauty standards at the time. Her husband certainly wasnt complaining. 😊
her husband had no choice in his wife lol, his wife was selected for him
AMAZING. she was a stunning woman. No wonder she was perpetually pregnant.
Does anyone else think she looks like a young Uma Thurman?
There’s also certain conditions that can distort facial features & stunt growth. The eyes can look very rounded & bulging, the nose can be flatter, broader & continues to grow at a much faster rate than people who don’t have the disorder(s). Even the face shape can be changed. Something as simple as a complex thyroid condition can cause similar physical symptoms. I’m not saying that her small stature & more so-called “exotic” facial features are caused by a then unknown metabolic condition; I’m saying that people in the 21st century have to disregard simple physical features as proof of ethnic lineage. The chances that historical figures actually did suffer from many of the same diseases & metabolic syndromes we do, but in their time hundreds of years ago had been unknown, should force us to more thoroughly investigate ancestry before we make claims. How many times have historians misread disease as a physical characteristic? Just the chance means that we must be more diligent in our consensus unless rewriting history is the only goal…
WOW!! She is really beautiful
She was German, so naturally she’s beautiful, cultured. Without any doubt this alone meant I understand that she would have faced prejudice. Your interpretation is wonderful, thank you ♥️(side note, I am not German, I am Māori and thus know full well when unjust prejudice and it’s ugliness arises)
Omggggggggggg I waited for this!!
She honestly looks like the actress Jessica Brown-Findlay, who, unless I'm mistaken, is white.
Love what you did here. I think she looks beautiful and exotic. Lovey portrayal and I think probably spot on. ❤
quite honestly, does it really matter?
It doesn't but there is a narrative they'd like to fit in for Bridgerton TV series but not the Bridgerton book series. TV and the Internet is rotting people's minds. They can't think without someone trying to push an ideology in there first. Comes back to common sense or a lack there of.
Yes. The truth matters.
does it matter if Mansa Musa was black? no i guess
My older sister had similar features as her and she is part German, I would not be surprised by your recreations.
You do some fantastic work. Love your commentary as well!
Well, maybe she had a distant Black relative. But I wouldn't call her black. And well, it's not like wide mouth is a Black only feature.
Neither is a wide, flat nose.
Think Julia Roberts for the wide mouth and Pink for the flat nose. Both considered white as snow and of European ancestry.
The recreations are gorgeous, they remind me a bit of Ruta Gedmintas, the actress that played Bessie Blount in The Tudors series.
She’s striking!❤
Wow she was probably the most beautiful British Queen I’ve seen you recreate this far! Great work
My great grandmother was full blooded American Indian. My grandmother and my mother looked quite a bit native American. I however, especially as a child, had light blonde hair and pale blue eyes. I have difficulty imagining that one ancestor from 500 years before could make a significant impact on her coloring or features.
Thank you for your videos - beautifully done!!
In the modern recreations, she's certainly quite beautiful.
As I watched, a beautiful girl who had been on British television came to mind.
Ruby, who was on the Great British Bake-off. Her father was unambiguously Ghanian and her mom was white, perhaps British, I can't remember.
Ruby had naturally light colored eyes and had golden blonde hair from childhood.
How does having an African ancestor hundreds of years prior make someone biracial?
Netflixism
Apparently, you've never heard of the "one drop rule".
@@miriamhavard7621 Apparently you haven’t heard of first grade math. “bi-“ means one half 1/2. It doesn’t mean one 1/100🤣
I think she’s beautiful
Beautiful!!
She was definitely not black .. whatsoever .. she was white of European ancestry period
Queen Charlotte is so beautiful. I love your recreations Becca! Now do George III pls 😅
Wow, she has the same eye shape as Queen Victoria... lovely. (:
I think this might be one of my favorites that you've done.
I look 100% Native American as my siblings look Causation or have a hint of Spanish to their physical features, while all of my maternal biological and paternal biological aunts look Irish mostly. I get my features from my 7 times great grandmother on my paternal side. No one else has this but me.
Genetics can be clever and pop up anywhere randomly. I love that. However, no proof means we must stay away from possibles as a rule, they are mere possibles. Nothing more.
I'm Lakota and both my parents were Lakota and enrolled in our tribe at Standing Rock. There is no phenotype for Native/ Indigenous people. Most tribes have had intermarriage with other tribes from different parts of the continent and non-Native people at some point. If you mean the old historical photos, most Native people spent most of their lives outdoors and looked more suntanned than the they do currently. The "Native American phenotype" is a trope that is used to exclude Native people who favor how a a non-Native parent or grandparent looks whether they are Black, Asian or European descendant by saying they don't look Native enough. Our identity is based on our involvement in our various cultures, languages and communities.
@@gnostic268 Exactly. While it is unfortunate that most of the tribes were wiped out, it's unfair to expect that Lakotas or other tribes only marry within their tribes as a form of racial purity test or "museum piece." It's not just insensitive, but harmful as inbreeding can lead to major deformities. There's just not enough Lakotas nor Native Americans to provide enough marriage and mating options without ending up with an inbred population.
I was born in Mecklenburg, it is beautiful there.
So, you're black then.
@@ernietbone4168 I look like Ricotta, the italian softcheese.
I think her modern day look reminds me of Emmy Rossum
When her face came to life, my goodness ❤
What is the music you've used here? It's beautiful!