Many A True Nerd Presents The Top 50 Games Of All Time - Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Our list of the Top 50 Games Of All Time rolls on, and tonight we're looking at some well-regarded classics, the first appearance of the Fallout franchise, and probably the biggest surprise of the whole list...
If you immediately came to the description to see what's in the list, shame on you. No links will be provided this evening to avoid spoilers.
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The Fallout4 version of Boston is not only fun, large, and full of life, but also surprisingly not entirely inaccurate.
As someone who lived around Boston, it was certainly interesting how the area was represented in a game.
This is a really shitty way to phrase this
Yep!! I was, based on spending a couple weeks there getting around entirely by walking and public transit, able to navigate to major landmarks and even find a fairly accurate representation of the housing projects my cousin lived in during college, using only landmarks. Bananas impressive map design, and a VAST improvement over the nonsense that was Fallout 3's wildly inconsistently sized/spaced DC.
When I was first playing the game, I wanted to get the Intelligence bobblehead ASAP. I checked the wiki, saw it was at the Boston Public Library, but I didn't click the link for that location. I wanted to avoid spoilers, and for all I knew the wiki would say "Here's where the climactic finale of the game happens, where beloved character so-and-so betrays you" or something like that. (My brother had it spoiled that a certain character was a synth by checking their wiki page.)
So I went onto Google Maps and searched for "Boston Public Library", which returned 3 hits. I used the river and Fenway Park as landmarks and checked the three locations, and the third one was the correct in-game location!
Raise your standards; don't grade BGS on a curve.
Stellaris. The "Impossible Run" was arguably the best and most dramatic series Jon's ever done. The desperate attempts to hold the line against an impossibly superior foe, the re-thinking the entire strategy when that failed... brilliant! I could watch it again and again.
0:18 LA Noire
2:34 Mario Kart Super Circuit
3:31 Xenoblade chronicles Definitive Edition
4:37 Unpacking 2021
6:03 Stellaris
7:15 Metroid Prime Remastered 2002
8:37 Subnautica
9:51 Zelda Wind Waker
10:56 Hitman Blood Money
12:33 TES 4 Oblivion
13:51 Perfect Dark 2000
15:19 Advanced wars 1+2 re-boot camp 203
16:28 Fallout 4
Given what he said about Oblivion, Jon really needs to play Morrowind. It's all that stuff he said but amplified and more, and the magic and alchemy are off the charts.
I live for the moment he discovers the Boots of Blinding Speed. :D
He should play Morroblivion Morrowind in Oblivion engine.
The first Bethesda game I played and it got me hooked! The lack of an actual map made the game a real challenge and very rewarding! I can't even remember what build I had - probably archer/sneak - but it was a lot of fun!
@@MravacKid Same, and so much. I also look forward to a small death montage as he swears he can get the trajectory right to use the Scrolls of Icarian Flight effectively because he's a genius at jumping.
@@garmtpug I love that instead of the waypoints of most modern games you got told "Yeah, walk down this road until you see this sign post, take a left, turn right at the boulder that looks like a lizard, and there's a cave sorta there...ish" It made it feel like real exploration, especially once you got past the Ghostgate and shit got real.
I haven't even played it in well over a decade but I still remember all the cool unique items and areas like it was yesterday.
"Knocking people unconscious requires the use of your very limited syringes."
Jon, you keep forgetting what you learned from your No Kill run so many years ago. Blood Money allows you to knock out as many people as you want if you use them as human shields.
Wind Waker will always be my favorite Zelda. The story of a boy who was told point blank he wasn’t the hero and said nah I Am Him then proceeded to be the hero
I absolutely love how he wasn't a Chosen One or reincarnation or anything and wasn't born with the triforce or whatever he just goes out, gets the Master Sword, puts the triforce back together and stabs Ganondorf in the fucking head
Whenever he comes back Ganon must live in fear of that adorable little psycho
@@mrcheesemunch WW Link calls Ganondorf
“ I have a particular set of skills that make me a nightmare for people like you” 🤣
To think that all ganandorf had to do was not kidnap his sister or kid ap them both at once and he might have won
Glad to see Subnautica make the list!
I wonder where Fallout 4 would have been placed if it never got survival mode...
Probably 20-25. I think he'd still have enjoyed the game quite a bit, though obviously not as much if survival mode wasn't in.
"And execute it well, if you'll pardon the pun"
What pun? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... 😄
I'm glad to see Unpacking on the list. It's such a wonderful emotional roller coaster of a game and the ending is so lovely. I never fail to choke up a bit, it's so satisfying.
What’s the moment he’s talking of in this, I don’t mind spoilers
@@andrewyoung1028 You move into your boyfriend's apartment and...
SPOILER
You can't put up your diploma anywhere. It can only be placed hidden away, like under the bed, out of sight.
@@LoreRevolution That doesn't sound like a fun relationship lol
@@TheLazyFinn Hope you also don't mind spoilers:
Literally a year later you move again and after few moments you recognize the very first level of the game - your original kid's room
@@gemsdirtykitchen3658 so they move to the character's childhood home? Cool loop
I was wandering at what position we would first see a Fallout game and which one it would be.
You mean the first Fallout game...there will be at least two, my guess.
@@johnoglesby-vw7ck I'm sure about that. I think Jon has discussed his top three or five favourite games a few times in the past and I think he mentioned New Vegas being up there. Not certain on that though.
L.A. Noire is a great pick. Nice to see it here!
The whole Xenoblade series holds a very special place in my heart.
Jon mentioning Xenoblade is a dream come true
You dream small. I respect that.
Jon, you’ve done a phenomenal job of exciting and reinvigorating me about some of my favorite games over the years. Even more importantly, you’ve introduced me to some games that I don’t think I would have otherwise tried that have since become favorites. Games like Hades, Stellaris, Crusader Kings, the Total War franchise, Unpacking, and that’s just from this list - there’s so many more that I could list. Thanks to you and Claire for being lovely people and wonderfully entertaining. Can’t wait to see what’s in the top 12!
I'm curious: how many hours do you think Jon has in Fallout 4? Because I currently have 4355.1 hours logged on steam, and I say this while STILL PLAYING IT. An absolute masterpiece of a game.
The music mixing in this is fabulous!
Glad to see Subnautica on your list! I thought I'd never be able to play that game because of my fear of swimming in murky water with limited visibility, but a few episodes into your playthrough, I knew I had to play it for myself so I stopped and got the game. I've put so much time into the game, and I haven't even reached the deepest depths. It's just such an amazing game to just exist in, especially once you manage to sort of master your environment and thrive, map out the various habitats and start getting a good feel for how to survive there.
this is now my favourite series by Jon
heck, in the whole interwebs
Someone feel free to correct me, but Jon has had the most replay series with Fallout 4, correct? (Including mods) That alone would qualify it for a place on his “best games of all time” list, to have that much versatility and expandability.
You may be right. I felt like right before or after he did YOLO, he was running a lot of NV modded playthroughs too. Different things that culminated in Ultimate Chaos, which was how I originally found his channel. Plus all the level 1 naked runs for each of the DLCs. Would not be surprised if FO4 had a couple more than NV tho. :) I can't be bothered to put in the work to find out how many of each there were
@@mephistophelicpierogi This many episodes of each if you only count his episode lists (won't cover one-offs)
Fallout 4 (335+)
Sim Settlements 2 (31+)
Legendary Roulette (12)
YOLO (58)
VR (5)
Frost (33)
Nuka World Level One (17)
Nuka World (14)
Vault Tec (4)
Wasteland Workshop (2)
Far Harbor (8)
Survival (73)
Automatron (4)
No Guns (38)
First Playthrough (36)
New Vegas (241)
TOTW (43)
Utter Chaos (20)
Old World Blues Naked (5)
Worst Courier (8)
New California (12)
Dust (21)
Autumn Leaves (5)
Lonesome Road (7)
JSawyer Mod (44)
YOLO (45)
Kill Everything (12)
No Kill (19)
If you were to add up the video lengths, the gap would be even wider.
@@bdarner6944 phenomenal, thank you for the legwork! Just the mileage alone guarantees New Vegas and F4 spots on this list, if not Top 10. One doesn’t play a game they dislike to that extent 😄
@@bdarner6944 ah, thanks for doing the work I was too lazy to do. I was interested in what the result would be
This has been a wonderful ride. Solid points at every marker.
Eagerly awaiting the finale tomorrow
I found your channel because I was looking for a Perfect Dark playthrough I am SO happy it's on this list, it's such a masterpiece.
Amazing list Jon! Xenoblade is my fave game of all time so nice to see it mentioned here:). Wind Waker and Advance Wars are also amazing choices.
Unpacking was an emotional surprise for how well the narrative is told without any real characters present. That having been said I really want Jon to go back and do a dark star run of unpacking. It’s the unpacking version of a kill everything run.
I know Jon's said FONV is his fave game of all time several times on the channel, but I wonder if it will actually top the list...
I'm replaying that at the moment and but still can't warm up to it. I wasn't enamored with it during the first playthrough and I'm not loving it again. I really want to after reading how people rave about it, but being a person who is very much a graphics and location/setting freak, NV is just a very barren and lifeless world. The people, desert, buildings, creatures, and towns are just ugly and uninteresting. I will play it until the end, but I feel rather disappointed already.
@@garmtpug I love New Vegas, but it's nowhere near as good as its reputation. Its world is exactly as you describe, barren and lifeless... and not in the way Fallout's setting demands.
@@garmtpug Yeah, I struggle to get into FNV as well, compared to F3 (or even F4). Most of Jon's 'Why F3 is better than you think' video had me going "this is why I prefer F3 to FNV", hah!
Yeah it will. Unless he's gonna pull the rug deliberatley, but he's a straightforward guy. Much like Nerdcubed saying JC4 is his fav game before making his official list and surprise JC4 is #1. It's still interesting to see the rest of the list in either case. I'm interested to see what Jon sticks at 2 and 3 for example (possibly Fallout 3 and a Total War).
Also I bet he'll do a joke "#1 is Gollum" at first for the lols, it's hard to resist.
@@garmtpug That is such an unusual thought to me. I spent three years there as a child, so I was impressed with how well the developers captured just how empty that part of the world actually is. How much driving one can do while seeing not a wink of civilization. It never occurred to me that someone could consider that boring. I guess I can see how it would be, considering how unplayable that game would become if not for Fast Travel.
I suppose the reason why I loved NV so much, was because of FO3 and that being my favorite game of all time for a year or two. NV made the experience so much better by offering a lot more area to explore, especially the DLCs. The ability to play again but as a different faction to get a different perspective of the plot.
But if I had never played FO3, I am not sure I would have NV to be a very interesting game. There is just so much walking, and until you trigger Act 2 it really feels like a grind.
After 1000 odd hours, NV does not strike my fancy much anymore. I play 4 if I have the itch to play a Fallout game. I just really enjoy collecting junk. 😆
PREVIOUSLY ON MATN-TOP 50 GAMES OF ALL TIMES...
50: Bioshock (2007)
49: Hades (2020)
48: Life is Strange (2015)
47: Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (2000)
46: Starcraft I (1998)
45: The Last of Us (2015)
44: Beatsaber (2018)
43: Banjo Kazooie (1998)
42: Sim City 4 (2003)
41: Soma (2015)
40: Deadly Premonition (2010)
39: Freedom Fighters (2003)
38: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (2003)
37: Red Dead Redemption (2010)
36: A Short Hike (2019)
35: F-ZERO X (1998)
34: Medieval II Total War
33: Dishonored (2012)
32: Crusader Kings III (2020)
31: Donkey Kong Country (1994)
30: Dragon Age Origins (2009)
29: Batman Arkham Asylum (2009)
28: Eternal Darkness (2002)
27: Portal (2007)
26: Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast (2002)
And in today's installment...
25: LA Noir (2011) (0:20)
24: Mario Kart Super Circuit (2001) (2:37)
23: Xenoblade Chronicles (2010) (3:33)
22: Unpacking (2021) (4:38)
21: Stelarris (2016) (6:04)
20: Metroid Prime (2002) (7:15)
19: Saubnautica (2014-2018+...) (8:38)
18: The Legend of Zelda: The Windwaker (2003) (9:51)
17: Hitman Blood Money (2006) (10:57)
16: Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (2006) (12:33)
15: Perfect Dark (2000) (13:51)
14: Advanced Wars II (2003) (15:19)
13: Fallout 4 (2015) (16:29)
So, we’re missing…
An XCOM game - can’t tell which.
Rome Total War - C’mon guys, Medieval 2 was the clue. He did a Classics degree.
Skyrim - Can’t remember if Jon liked this more than Oblivion, he played it before Oblivion. It’s kinda hard to tell.
Mass Effect - He’s either gonna say the first one OR he’s gonna cheat and bundle all three of them together.
Fallout 3 - It’ll go 4, 3, New Vegas.
Fallout: New Vegas - duh.
A Civilisation game - Like XCOM, I don’t know which one Jon likes best.
Maybe Empire Total War? - Another wild card, Total War fans hate it, but Jon likes it.
Maybe Elden Ring? - Feels like a wild card pick, but it seemed to make a big impression on him. Hell, he streamed ALL of it.
I’d like to see Arkane’s Prey. That was a great YT series.
Good list
You forgot Skies of Arcadia, which Jon has been telling us for years is one of his all time favorite games. I could also see Rollercoaster Tycoon or another park builder showing up on the list. It's possible he may have 1 or 2 other surprises up his sleeve for us.
Resident evil 4, Pokemon, Skies of Arcadia and XIII all seem plausible as well
Going by the thumbnail images, there's certainly Rome TW, Zelda BotW, Resi, ME and F:New Vegas to come.
Fallout 3 has to be there too - same with Elden Ring. Agree there could be a Pokémon, Skies of Arcadia and XCOM too.
Maybe Baldurs Gate, feel like he's connected to it off screen? Let's see!
@@Howie2810 The lower left image is pretty much the FO3 cover art from the intro?
I've been listening to all these at work thanks for helping me get throgh it 😂 great list so far!
I like the fact that I can look up online some of the named buildings and locations in F4 and see what they look like in real life as well as their history! I looked up Spectacle Island and found out that it is a real place and has a rich history as well as being named for its resemblance in shape to a pair of spectacles! Many of the other buildings, areas, and Far (Bar) Harbor are also based on life and are really interesting too! It makes the game seem very real.
So glad to see Oblivion on here, that game was my childhood and the reason i love RPG's
100% agree on blood money
I really, really loved Perfect Dark, when it came out, for all the reason you mentioned. And the Combat Simulator? You can invent multiplayer scenarios that don't exist anywhere else! Eg. Configure one enemy simulant at 'Perfect' difficulty and join a set of 7 other simulants all at 'Meat' difficulty. Now your job is to try to prevent the enemy from scoring point out of your weak stupid allies. Or fight againts 8 Perfect that are configured for melee only attacks.... ouch that's tough (and funny to play).
Been looking forward to this again
If #1 is not Excel, we revolt. Lol
Star Control date 0065!!
The march toward Jon’s favorite game of all time continues, with today’s humble request being that Jon play that very game (spoiler alert, Jon’s favorite game of all time is Star Control 2, though he just doesn’t know it yet).
Tyvm and gb
Finally catching up on this list to see what showed up on it, when I saw it coming out originally I was going to hop in the comments joking about being disappointed about no Diablo 2, Total Annihilation or Perfect Dark... honestly surprised PD showed up in the list, though it deserves to be in anyone's top games list.
It was way ahead of its time and far better than it had any right to be. A compelling campaign, a lovable 'Merikan flag wearing alien friend, smooth gunplay, a good selection of weapons each with an alternate and often vastly different firing mode, good number of maps, different types of AI with different characteristics that were somehow even more competent than many AI in modern games, difficult game and firing range challenges to unlock things, an awesome little hovering box you could carry around and use as a ballistic shield... I don't understand how it managed to work at all, let alone so well on an N64. Then it was followed up with the dumpster fire that was PDZ... I'm glad RARE never made an FPS game after that. And hopefully the reboot from The Initiative lives up to the original, if it ever comes out. This game deserves a sequel.
Good to see Oblivion in the list. I've never loved a game more than this beautiful mess lol
Drinking/smoking game: Take a shot/hit every time Jon says 'cocking' xd
The entire advance wars series is a treasure. Though I personally think DC is the best mechanically 2 is definitely the heart of the series for most people. If I had to catalogue my hours for every game Dark Conflict on DS would be the highest and it wouldn't even be close. They're games that can be played forever
Subnautica is the only horror game that made me scream and slam my laptop shut cause I got scared. Amnesia has made me fall out of my seat, but subnautica is the only game I could not play while alone.
I love the choice of gameplay for oblivion. It's one of my favorite moments from matn history
What's the context lol?
Jon, I have spent many hours watching you play fallout 4. I love the lore you bring. Amazing! But 15th!?! Can't even imagine what number 1 is.
Major plot hole in this video DISCOVERED!
You started with 'good afternoon ladies and gentlemen...' so far so good afternoon. BUT then you said 'kicking off Tonight...'.
I trusted you Jon
What happened to Shadows of Doubt? I think that’s easily the best detective game
L A noir is millions times better
Still in early access so probably doesn't want to include it in case it completely changes after he includes it, for better or worse. Plus this is his favourites, not like objective bests.
They are too different to compare.
I liked Noire, but would never play through it a second time, or call it "great".
Shadows is more interesting and I bought it in Steam EA to support the full release, and I rarely buy EA games.
Thanks for the video
Wait... Sleeping in Fallout 4 DRAINS stamina? Er... Wot?
Big names in this list! Perfect Dark is among my favorites games of all times, being able to play with bots was incredible for people with no friends like me :D *sobs*
I completely, totally and utterly agree with your assessment of Hitman Blood Money. The only reason I play any of the others is for a change of place, and for some reason, I've never really been able to get into the reboot.
Hey Jon just wondering if you were planning on making a video reviewing or otherwise just discussing the Fallout TV show? I'd love to hear your take on it
he is going to do something on it
Obviously the last part is delayed because Jon can't stop watching the new Fallout show. Which is fair. It's pretty damn good.
Wow, the first Fallout game only appeared now. We still have 3, 1 and NV (I know Jon didn't like 2 that much). Ofc NV is #1 but I'd love to see how this franchise has a place in Jon's heart considering the history of the channel.
I myself am here because kill everything or YOLO (I don't remember, it's been more than 8 years).
What happened in the 2021 Unpacking game? I can’t find the video play through
Insane and wonderful choice of Fallout 4 footage
Subnautica terrified me, God I hate being underwater, still an amazing experience
I like that this list is very personal; a MarioKart game because of fond memories playing it, or a game because the mechanics are unique. My list would be so different that it's interesting to see.
take a shot every time MATN says "and... ok"
So in the final 12 you still need to fit in R:TW, Skyrim, F3 & FNV. It's great to see so many older games in this list!
I wonder if Empire is going to be in there. I know it had jank, but that Dutch series he did was a lot of fun.
I would LOVE to see more Oblivion! Maybe run with a mod collection from nexus :)
i never dared hope you'd play Oblivion once, Jon... now i long for you to tell another story of balance-breaking magnificence, and jinks of both the high and low persuasion :)
I'm glad to see L.A. Noire in the top 25. One of the most underrated games of all time
The town defence building is why I bounced off Fallout 4 despite my love for the prequels.
This is Great!
I'm curious to see how high XIII Remastered Remake is gonna make it Jon seemed so fond of that surely it's guaranteed a spot right
So glad you mentioned Wind Waker, the best Zelda game
I'm glad Jon and I somehow had basically the same experience of Perfect Dark
Glad to see Xenoblade get a spot on the list
Surprised to see Blood Money below the top 10. It'll be interesting to see what tops it.
I wonder if Timesplitters 2 or 3 will be on the list at some point. Or even Metal slug, House of the Dead or Time crisis.
About Fallout 4, I'm kinda sad that the new lite ally in 76 gives the info that Broadway is a big crater. I had hoped for a massive vertical Manhattan Fallout 5.
There better be a Dark Messiah of might & magic in here somewhere!
My issue with stellaris is that it changes so often that I need to constantly relearn mechanics. This coupled with how empty the base game is without DLC means I've not played it within the last 5 years. It went from probably being one of my top 5 games, to barely being worth a mention
Hoping Jon does a video on the Fallout show
I discovered LA Noir very recently, as I was well on my way to becoming a grumpy old man, and I absolutely agree that it was one of the finest games I have ever played. But let's be honest, the driving mechanic was horrendous! The fact that you could not, under any conceivable conditions, blend in with NPC traffic really hurt the immersion for me, and the fact that there was no minimap or useful guidance mechanic made driving really confusing and frustrating. Sure, the chases were fun, but most of the driving you did was not that.
I think Fallout 4 is my most played game too, even though I prefer the narrative complexity of New Vegas, it’s exploration factor doesn’t even come close to 4. Plus building stuff is fun and adds to replay value, though admittedly mods are pretty much mandatory to round out the settlement system…
Yeeeeeah Subnautica is on the list! It and its sequel are my chill-out games.
10:02 Jon you and I had VERY different experiences with Wind Waker. I never finished it, I kept getting stuck in the same dungeon every time I tried to replay the game over the past 20 years.
What was your #51 favorite game, the first one to just barely not make the cut?
My guesses would be: Crusader Kings 2 if it doesn't show up next video, Modern Hitman, or Pokemon gen 1 if it doesn't show up next video.
The xeno series is honestly just goated in general. Xenoblade 2 is my favorite tho.
I first played unpacking shortly after moving in with my at the time GF now Wife and she endlessly teased me about unpacking in video games when we still had boxes packed irl...some of those boxes are still packed.....
Brilliant. That must mean that Binary Domain is at the very top end of the list.
glad to see advanced wars here
I have been trying to find Advance War, but I didn't know its name. I remember playing the Flash version.
John, your thoughts on FF VI?
blood money is peak. they tried to replicate it with the recent hitman trilogy but there is some charm about blood money that cant be replicated
Given how much Jon talks about Blood Money and Hitman general I was sure it would be in the top 10 for sure, kinda shocked now lol, as for the mood, even without playing it much myself (I've seen way more BM on RUclips) the mood, stakes, pacing etc. are way different in BM vs WOA, BM has that almost scary ambiance of the early games.
Watch out Jon, Jellyfish have been sighting lurking near you. 😊
I was never able to get L.A.Noir to load. Fortunately I only spent something like $7.99 on it but it was disappinting.
With Unpacking I was never able to figure out our how to progress past the first room. I wasn’t invested enough to keep trying to figure it out.
Blood Money below Oblivion... heresy. :D
Not strictly true re: Blood Money and knocking NPCs out, you can use syringes but you can also pistol whip NPCs. I'm certain you've used that approach in the past.
Please do a review of the Fallout tv series!
I enjoy a good cup of coffee.
My gf absolutely loved Unpacking.
Very tragic to me Jon has never played Xenosaga and especially Xenogears. Easy favorite for him that he just refuses to play.
Im proud of Subnautica for making the list
Jon! Love to see LA Noire on your list. I have thought about this game so much over the years since I completed it. One of my favorite experiences was driving around LA in this time period and just immersing myself in the setting. It's a game that really doesn't get as much credit as I think it deserves. Good call.
I couldn't understand how to use the mechanics in L.A. Noire, it doesn't make any sense; May as well be 90s moon logic.
AW 2 being balanced you say.
Points to Kanbai, Colin, Sturm, and Hachi. The most broken co's in the game. [Especially Hachi, Colin, and Sturm.]
I felt so heartbroken when we didn't get to see total playtime for FO4 on steam.
Unpacking being above Medieval 2 hurts I can’t lie
I'll still never understand people who say that to this day Wind Waker is a bad looking game, it still looks amazing on the original GameCube now for Christ sake.
I've seen such baffling complaints as "But it's mostly ocean" and...what does that even mean, it's a game about sailing across an ocean and exploring...OF COURSE IT'S MOSTLY OCEAN.
Alongside that I've heard many complain about how it "takes too long to get anywhere" and you can tell that either they didn't play the game or they somehow completely missed the melody that lets you freaking teleport anywhere on the map you've already been to. It annoys me when people make complaints like that about games when they also hold other games with similar "issues" in high regard like how in Ocarina of Time you'll find yourself having to constantly go back and forth through time just to check whether or not you can progress one way or the other, which can be a pain in the ass.
Mentioning Stellaris made me so very sad as its was a favourite but I simply can not play it any more
I’m going to guess some of what is next in no particular order:
Mass Effect
Skyrim
FO3
FONV
Civ6
Skies of Arcadia
Resident Evil (prob 4)
Maybe an old Pokémon game
XIII possibly and that's my guess as well. I feel like it'd belong on the list somewhere.