The whole church scene is probably my favorite in the movie. Eddie prayed to God to kill Peter, and the demon in Peter was killed and then bestowed onto Eddie. Even despite all the memes it’s still a very deep movie
Yes, I'm happy to hear that there are still quite a few people who really enjoy Spiderman 3! I personally love it, it's one of my favorite Spiderman movies! The final battle between Spiderman, Goblin, Sandman, and Venom was phenomenal and emotional!
I don't like how Goblin Lizard look in this movie. I wanted them to upgrade Goblin and Lizard and they didn't do that. I wanted Lizard to look more like a Crocodile and Goblin to actually wear makeup but NOO! I guess they still consider it too scary. His hobogoblin look is ridiculous.
This movie isn't AS good as the first two, but I still really like it! It is kinda "all over the place" to an extent, and is a bit crowded villain-wise, but I still found the story arcs captivating. I'm a little mixed on how they kinda retconned Uncle Ben's manner of dying, but they do manage to get a nice message out of it in the end. I actually like in this one how Mary Jane is the one going through the "Who am I? What am I worth?" crisis instead of Peter, while he's pretty much riding high. And again, Rosemary Harris as Aunt May kills it, maybe not quite as much as in the second one. But I just love the scene where when Peter is telling her that Spiderman killed Uncle Ben's killer with such pride, expecting her to be happy, and to his surprise and disappointment instead just says, "Well, Spiderman doesn't kill people," and then, what I think is clearly her best lines in the film: "I don't think it's for us to say who deserves to live or die. Uncle Ben meant the world to us. But he wouldn't want us living one second with revenge in our hearts. It's like a poison. It can take you over. Before you know it, turn us into something ugly." Which is another thing about Sam Raimi's Spiderman that I don't think you get with what we've gotten after, is the quotable lines from the films. And okay, Emo Peter is HILARIOUS! I don't know if that's what their intention was or not, but I love that part because I just crack up as he's dancing and acting all "cool" going down the street. I actually think J. Jonah Jameson (J.K. Simmons' character) was made a little too much the brunt of jokes in this one. I think they struck the perfect balance of him being snarky and comedic in the second one. His best moment for me will always be his reaction to "Could you pay me in advance?"
YES!! Spider-Man 3 is so underrated. The only negative I truly have is that Venom is very rushed BUT even Venom has an intense fight at the climax of the movie. I really enjoy the action, the humor and the emotional character arcs. Oh, and the cameo of Bruce Campbell is the best one out of the trilogy. Such an underrated movie.
I have to disagree watching Spider-Man 1 and 2 then watching this. Just breaks my heart I was so disappointed when I first saw this movie..it’s not a bad movie it’s just so fucking disappointing
The main character was the dumbest I've ever seen, even before he got the dumb suit or whatever the fuck was going on there. As a casual fan I seriously disliked the hero.
@@hereinthewired3515 Every scene he was in was so abrasive - saying things NOBODY would possibly say in the same situation. Before he got the bad mojo or whatever tf that was. But by far the worst was kissing the girl she just hinted jealousy at after he told her to watch closely. It made me hate him. The last movie when he tried going clean without the suit he was a fucking bumbling idiot, but a really lovable bumbling idiot.
I love this trilogy even with the flaws of part 3. I just wish that it only had one villain. Venom. Didn't need both venom and sandman. I wish we got Spiderman 3 Spiderman vs. Venom. Other than that, I can watch all 3 and enjoy them. Great review Cody.✌ And to your point on that sequence in SM3 being the sane thing in 2 just a little different, is the same way I feel about Bride and Seed of Chucky. There the same film. That's why their the only two child's play films I hate equally.
I will always have a soft spot for Spider-Man 3. Yes there are some things that should have been done better, but there is a lot of great stuff in it too. I still enjoy this movie over TASM 1 and 2, and Homecoming and Far From Home.
I watched Spider-Man 3 recently, it's a movie that's come a long way with me, when it first came out, I HATED it. But over the years, I liked it more and more. It has obvious flaws, but I genuinely enjoyed it a lot
Is Spider-Man 2 an almost perfect film, maybe, but is this the most fun and rewatchable, yes and because of that I like it better than both of the previous
I love Spider-Man 3 as well. It’s not as good as the first 2 but it’s still a satisfying conclusion to this awesome trilogy. Not gonna lie though, when I rewatch this movie I look forward to Bully Maguire the most. He’s just so entertaining
I had 2 best friends that passed away within the last 5 years. So...I went back and watched this one again just today after listening to you. So I thought..."Alright, Fuck it Cody. For you, I will give it another chance." I don't hate it as much now. I agree with you. They are some scenes that got to me as I mentioned my best friends. As I did have to forgive them for things. So since I related to the movie, I got to appreciate it more. The "finger-pointing" shit/Chair dance. That's just Sam Rami's sense of humor. You are fan same as me. If you anyone is not. Just not gonna get "It" LMAO... Oh yeah, J.K Simmons just owned that character. He was born to play it!
Thank you, Cody! Finally someone is defending the widely-maligned Spider-Man 3. For 14 years, I have gotten non-stop shit from everyone I have ever known for liking this movie and defending it…to the point where people don’t consider me a “real” Spidey fan because I enjoy watching this flick. Yes, it is the weakest of the trilogy, it has a fuck ton of flaws, and it’s a huge step down from the perfection of Spidey 2, but goddammit! This movie is so enjoyable. The dance stuff makes sense! Peter is an old school dorky nerd, so his perception of what it means to be cool would look like that. The only thing I disagree with you on is Sandman. I loved him as a villain (including his daughter motive) and think he should have been the main villain. I would either take out (and recast) Venom or at least tease him at the end for the sequel (that we never got). Spidey 3 is still good fun and it closes the trilogy nicely. I tear up when Peter and MJ embrace at the end exchanging no words, only looks. Haters can calm the hell down. Lol I adore the Raimi trilogy and it was a pleasure being able to see them in theaters from age 10-15. I would rather watch Spidey 3 than the 2 Garfield movies any day of the week. 🤷♂️
I’m so glad we share the same thoughts on this movie. I grew up with it, I love bully maguire but agree the bar scene is too much and is dumb, I maybe don’t mind Topher Grace as much as others (never saw that 70s show tbf) but the face revealing does get annoying rather than showing venom more and not getting more venom lines outside of his recruit of sandman. I do however prefer topher grace’s venom in spider man 3 to the Tom hardy venom and I am going off of the first movie (haven’t seen Let There Be Carnage). The Harry/Peter storyline comes to a great conclusion and this movie honestly tops the first Spider-Man for me. I like the first one a lot but the green goblin suit kinda hurts the movie on rewatch. Obviously no where near Spider-Man 2 but in all I really enjoy this trilogy and is up there as one of my favorites of all time. Fingers crossed for Tobey Maguires return in No Way Home!
I completely agree with you Cody. While this movie is my least fav of the trilogy, and is flawed throughout…. It isn’t nearly as bad as the world has made it out to be. Not even close. Can’t wait for your takes on Garfields movies. Keep up the good work man! 🤙🏾
I saw the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy for the very first time a couple months ago. And I went into Spider-Man 3 with an open mind, despite all the hate the movie gets (I was a senior in high school at the time and I remember my friends saying they went to the premiere and half the theater was heckling the movie). Honestly? I didn't hate it. Yeah, it was clearly subpar compared to the previous two movies, and there were groan-worthy parts, but it really wasn't that bad. It definitely wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. Like you said, I think it they got rid of either Sandman or Venom, it would have been much better, and if they reworked Sandman's backstory it could have worked too.
As someone that within the last month watched the trilogy back to back 3 I find to be under appreciated and over hated as hell. Sandman was portrayed perfectly imho. The CGI still holds up very well, the action is great. Toby is still strong. Venom was obviously shoehorned in and we all know Sam Raimi wanted none of it lol
I liked this. Peter Parker going dark had me entertained. The only thing was them using Venom (Spider-Man’s most famous rival) was utilized so quick in one movie.
I Honesty Like The Dark tone and the Humor Throne, I know people Hate the Maguire Dance Scene And The Part where Peter Humiliates MJ Cause She’s a Bitch
I have learned to like this movie. I like the animated versions about the Black Costume story. The Spectacular Spider-man version is awesome. The 90s version is great and I love it. I hate Avi Arad for all the interference with this movie. If he didn't interfere as much Venom would have done better. He doesn't even call himself Venom. The line in the comics is "We are poison to Spider-man that is why we call ourselves Venom" It would have been so cool to hear that.
The first time I watched the movie venom scared me. But as I got older, my may problem is that venom really didn't feel he fit into the main story. Venom felt more like a side mission
Well said, Cody! I completely agree with you. I am a Spider-Man 3 defender as well. I've never understood why people hate this movie. Is it flawed? Yes. I get all the issues that people have with it. Is it the weakest of the trilogy? Sure. But is it this god-awful, complete dumpster-fire that MOST fans make it out to be? Absolutely not! I love this movie despite its problems. It's action-packed from start to finish with some awesome fight scenes, it has a great message about the importance of forgiveness and how seeking revenge can change a person, and wrapped up all the storylines quite nicely. Like you said, even though I would have loved to have seen more from this version of Spider-Man...I am satisfied with this being the conclusion of the story. It doesn't leave anything unresolved or set anything up that leaves you hanging. This definitely works as "the end". It's a shame that this was followed up with The Amazing Spider-Man, though, which I didn't really dig. In retrospect, I wish that Spider-Man 4 hadn't been cancelled and got made instead of that. Funny how, despite being rebooted twice...this is still the best set of Spider-Man movies...at least for ME. They haven't topped Sam Raimi's trilogy. No Way Home might the closest they ever get to doing it, but that's mainly because they are piggy-backing off these older films to an extent. They are taking us on a nostalgia trip, and I'm there for it.
Well I like his performance in the movie. He is perfectly playing the hot headed jerk to Peter Parker and is like him but is too motivated by his selfishness instead or selfishness. But I agree, when he gets the symbiote, he kinda sucks. His performance becomes freaking ridiculous.
Loving these Spider-Man reviews Cody it like you reached into my mind because each review is exactly my thoughts of the movie My gripe with this was Sandman arc we never find out if daughter survives her cancer it would been nice had scene with his daughter in remission & why he did what he did was for love & forgiven for going down life of crime path, love the church scenes as Peter fighting save himself ripping off the black suit very atmospheric scene. I'd cut the Peter/Mary Jane scene at the club it drags on too long & added Sandman scenes with his daughter. But overall despite some dodgy CGI this is a solid conclusion to the Raimi trilogy & I wish Sam & Tobey had continued & made another movie.
I like and yes the flaws but the good things about the film make me like it but venom was ok I just wish he was more bulky instead of looking or feeling more like carnage
Hey, it's the movie that got me into the Superhero film genre and quite possibly movies in general. Its got its problems but I can put them aside and still enjoy it for what it is.
It’s very much frustrating to know that Sam brought Sony so much money and praise from the first two Spider-Man movies, and yet they didn’t trust in his third vision that they had to fan service venom into the plot. I could imagine this movie without sandman and it feels like it would’ve been a more solid better movie. Due to him being so large. When he is in monster form I could still see him and Harry attacking sandman. Make sandman do more evil things die to the pressure and attacks of Spider-Man. Until the end they both recognize that their violence was only bringing more pain into the world. They could forgive each other for jumping to conclusions and attacking one another. This is considering that they don’t put the Bens death retcon. If they wanted to add that it could still be the same message. How not knowing and not understanding a persons position could cause more pain.
24:06 Exactly. He acts like it was no big deal even though Mary Jane probably considered the upside down kiss from the original special both before and after she found out Peter was Spider-Man. Seeing him kiss Gwen probably made her think "Oh our kiss wasn't special after all and he'd kiss any other woman that way." I know they were going for Peter's fame and popularity as Spider-Man going to his head after years of being bullied by the likes of Flash Thompson but they didn't do it very well.
This movie is awesome, Positives 1) I love the final team up between Harry and Peter, 2)The Closing out of a chapter really hit me in the feels, 3)The Birth of Sandman was Epic 4) The Development of evil in Peter Parker was great 5) I got this one year on my Birthday and to this day I still really love this film 6) The Action Sequences are awesome 7) The Drama 8) Emo Parker is GOAT lol Negatives 1) Mary Jane 2) Plot Development needed more time to flesh other characters out more 3)The Dialogue in spots, I really thought it was dumb when the landlord said "You good woman, I good Man"when trying to give Peter Woman Advice 😂 I still hold this movie close to my heart especially Harry's death which hits hard every time I watch it, Great Review Man!
We are in complete agreement. Is 3 flawed? Yes. Did they try to juggle about 12 plot lines when 1 or 2 would've worked? Sure. But it feels like a conclusion to the trilogy, and all 3 films have the same feel and voice (looking at you, new Star Wars trilogy). The theater experience for this one, I'll never forget. It was the first time I went to a midnight show, right before opening day. The place was packed, and loud, until the movie started, and everyone shut up, kept their fucking phones on silent, and immersed themselves in the movie experience. The easter eggs (things like Bruce Campbell) got huge reactions. We laughed and cried together, it was amazing. I don't even know if those types of audiences exist anymore! Great review as always Cody
You're absolutely right, the 3rd act have some issues but the movie is entertaining and has heart, and is better than any of the 2 new sad attempts to reboot the franchise with Andrew Garfield. It does not deserve the hate it gets from everyone.
Nice thumbnail Cody, I’ve been waiting for this one for a long time! Spider-Man 3 is my least favourite from the Raimi Trilogy but still my third favourite Spider-Man movie! It’s flawed but very entertaining and I find the bad parts to quite charming! Over the Years I learned to love Emo Peter/Bully Macguire for what it is. I like Harry, just wish he had a better Mask. The only thing I didn’t like was Eddie Brock himself. Some of the Ven fight was OK... Sandman was great and his final talk with Peter is my favourite part of the whole trilogy!
You didn't mentioned that it was also the butler's fault that Harry took a grenade to the face after revealing he knew everything that happened too with the spikes on the Green Goblin's glider that killed Norman.
18:21 The women all laugh dismissively at emo Peter... except for the emo gazing creepily at him, but she gets ignored. Funny little moment that never gets mentioned.
This was the only Raimi film I had seen in theaters, and I still really like it when Harry shows up to save Peter at the end, hitting Sandman with a Pumpkin Bomb & defeating him so Spider-Man can focus on Venom. It was hype back then.
10:06 The best part is when Jonah sacks Eddie and when Robbie says "You know we're gonna have to print a retraction now" and Jonah goes "I haven't printed a retraction in 20 years."
This is not as bad as some of the comic book movies that are actually shit (Suicide Squad, Fant4stic, Catwoman) but compared to the first two its a letdown.
I've always enjoyed spiderman 3. I like the mean Spider-Man he's intimidating. Reminds me when he gets up and runs after he talks to uncle Ben for the last time.
Agreed on showing Topher Grace's face constantly once he became Venom, we don't need to see it every time he talks. Just leave it as Venom, Topher Grace didn't have an intimidating face to pull that off. I also feel they just threw Gwen Stacy in there to be "the other woman" to make MJ jealous, instead of having respect for the actual character and relationship she had with Peter in the comics (and Amazing Spider-Man films). And lastly, just leave it as one villain, or at best two with Harry and Peter being conflicted between the light and dark. This was before the MCU-era where they balanced having multiple characters in one movie and even then there's usually just one main villain. The Raimi Spiderman films were arguably to the 2000's what the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher Batman films were to the 90's and the Richard Donner Superman films were to the late 70's-80's, they defined the era before there were so many superhero movies, so their flaws were more evident, because the market wasn't as saturated with them. But the point is, the more successful ones focused on one hero and one big villain, then studios got "ambitious", for lack of a better term, and had to throw 2 or more villains in the later films and it just became overkill, especially with the more cartoony Schumacher Batman films. This movie didn't need Sandman and could've done more with Venom and Harry instead.
Symbiote Spider-Man and Venom should have been saved for a later film. They should have gotten a better actor than Topher Grace to play Eddie Brock too. This film's version of Gwen was only there for a forced love triangle between her, Peter and Mary Jane and to give Eddie an obsession.
The score in this movie is also amazing, Christopher Young did a great job continuity wise. Contrary to what Hans Zimmer did to James Horner after TASM...
Love the movie, love this trilogy with my whole heart. If you consider all 3 movies as 1 movie like people go with Lord of the Rings or Back to the Future, it would be my favorite movie of all-time. I cry every time at the final scene with Sandman. The message of forgiveness is so beautiful. I also lose it when Harry calls Peter his friend as he dies. Cheesy sure, but I’ve grown so attached to that trio after these 3 movies, that it hits so hard.
My Favorite Films of 2007 Ghost Rider, Rise of Silver Surfer, The Mist, Death Sentence, American Gangster, Saw 4, Bank Job, Spider-Man 3, Halloween 2007, Next, Transformers. Hitcher Remake, Die Hard 4, National Treaure 2, Shoot Em Up, We Own The Night, Until Death, and JCVD
I Always Hate it when they say the CGI was the problem with Spider-Man 3 because I thought there was Good CGI and Good Special Effects with Sandman and Venom I would have to see Topher Grace Reprise his role in the Venom Films
Spidey 3 is a good one. My feelings towards it is like the matrix sequels and star wars prequels....Flawed but had a strong vision behind those films. Great review!
I've always enjoyed this movies beginning and the end. When Peter has the symbiote is when it dips. I didn't like the raindrops scene in 2 and really didn't like his dancing in the streets in 3
Hi Cody, I just saw Spider-Man 3 for the first time tonite 6/5/22 & I Don't understand the hate for it either, as too really like A lot about it, especially its theme about forgiveness, & semi Happy & hopeful ending, despite it's flaws. Thus I truly Appreciate Your review of Spiderman 3;😊 I Also really liked RUclipsr Joe Blo's detailed review of why Spider-Man 3 is actually a very good film, & 1 other RUclipsr's detailed retrospective of it, but I don't recall his name.
Saw this one in theaters with my dad and brother. I was in my emo phase at the time, so, the edgy Peter Parker made me really happy to see at the time and I still love it. 😊
The bar scene really pushed it over the edge 😅 I loved how cringe it was && although it was shocking when he pushes MJ, I felt like that part was needed to help bring him back to reality somewhat.
From what I discovered, Sam Raimi originally wanted Harry Osborn to be conflicted over whether or not he would become the Goblin to kill his best friend Peter Parker/Spider-Man for his father’s death and Raimi not only wanted Sandman as the villain, but he also wanted to use the Vulture as a second villain with Ben Kingsley in the part before he was forced to put Venom in the movie.
I love all three equally and this no complaints about this movie never ruined it and I can watch for what it is and be entertained and laugh 😂 out loud
Never have truly understood the extreme hatred for this movie. It is the weakest of the trilogy, but it's no where near as bad as a lot of people say it is
18:59 In other versions the symbiote either took over the sleeping Peter's body to swing around New York or made him angrier and more aggressive which in this film you only see when he shouts at Mr Ditkovich to fix the door of the flat, when he tries to kill Sandman and when he beats up and scars Harry. In no other continuity does it make him act like an idiot. The people who go "He's acting like what a geek thinks is cool" are just trying to defend a bad scene.
Thanks for that nice civil review Cody, I think there's more fans of this movie than we're led to believe honestly. Unfortunately the hatred screams louder than the appreciation most of the time..
Lmao. I'm watching this as I'm cooking dinner and the rant on Peter being an idiot about MJs problems and Gwen had me laughing my ass off in the kitchen xD
First off, love this movie! It’s by far the funniest of the 3 and if you watch it as a comedy it’s amazing. Also, I love the jazz bar scene. It’s hilarious when he throws off the jacket and her hair flys back… “now dig on this”
Say what you want about Spider-Man 3 but the battles, the special effects (especially the parts involving the sandman’s transformation) it is SOOO badass and nostalgic! It was so ahead of its time back then. It fits so well after the final battles in: ‘Spider-Man 1,’ and ‘Spider-Man 2.’ I can only imagine how awesome it was to see this film in the theater back in 2007.
I didn't think this movie was that good, but it certainly didn't bother me that much. At least the good parts can make the film watchable, and most of the bad can be made fun of or tided over with a few shots of whiskey (sometimes both). It kind of reminds me of Batman Forever; it has its many flaws, but the film can still be a lot of fun if seen the right way.
This one is a messier film than the first two, but I still find it the most watchable of Raimi's trilogy. The Peter/MJ relationship finally doesn't have me wanting to tear my eyes out, for one. (Oh, how I'm looking forward to you reaching Peter/Gwen!) And it thankfully leans into the silliness that Raimi does better than the honest character moments.
I totally get the concept of the sequence walking down the street mirroring the one from Spider-man 2. To me, the problem is it held Peter back from going as dark as I would've liked to have seen. I really love the fight in Harry's penthouse, but I wanted more of that. I think Maguire could've done a lot with a further descent into darkness. My other issue was making Sandman sympathetic. Why do we have to do this again? They weren't going to match or top the portrayal of Doc Ock, because, tbh, Sandman isn't nearly interesting enough to do so.
This movie rules for Bully Maguire the meme king the single most ridiculously OP and broken character in fiction will say “I’m going to put some dirt in your eyes” and you’ll be out of there as well as more Mr Ditkovich asking for rent memes!!! This movie still holds well in all seriousness I’ll choose this over anything MCU puts out any day. If they wanted to do a Royale tag team fight I don’t think they should’ve out Venom in this movie instead you can have Sandman there and add some else like Rhino, Mysterio, Electro those would have been better villains suited for this where as Venom if he was to be in the movie should be the central focus due to how important and personal he is with Peter same goes for villains like Carnage or The Lizard these are more personal characters and having them in a Battle Royale in this fashion kinda takes away from that and just makes them seem characters in the background of the fight. Or they could’ve made Spiderman 3 broken down into 2 parts and 2 movies I think that would’ve been the better choice.
I'm still going to say this for as long as I have to, but Spider-Man 3 should've been split into two parts. I should've began with Peter getting the symbiote suit, fighting Sandman and Harry, with part 1 ending in him finally getting it off and Eddie becoming Venom as a cliffhanger. Then part 2 could've been Eddie (not just as Venom) setting out to completely ruin Peter's life, not just kill him, and he'd enlist the help of Sandman for it. But it was still enjoyable, I just feel that at the very least, the film should've been longer since there were three villains.
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The part where hes dancing and being super cringy, its how Peter thinks cool people act. Hes been a dork his life, he doesnt know how to be cool. And thus, Venom doesnt know how to be cool. Its supposed to be cringy, dorks trying to be cool usually are
Great comparison between this and Dark Knight Rises! They are definitely the weakest of those respective trilogies but they are very enjoyable nonetheless. 100% agree Cody.
15:13 It also takes away from the original film where the point was that if Peter had stopped Dennis Carradine from stealing the wrestling promoter's money instead of letting him go Uncle Ben would still be alive. And Flint Marko forgetting he had a gun and accidentally pulling the trigger killing Ben was stupid too. Hearing that his uncle died because Flint was an idiot should have pissed Peter off more not made him forgive him.
I think this movie should have been split into two to let this 3rd movie breathe a little more. Maybe introduce Venom somewhat as a cliffhanger to stick in the 4th movie where he can have it all with Spiderman. I do agree though, that this movies big bad should have been Harry. It would have made the narrative run more smoothly throughout. When it comes to Sandman? Cool villan, but we didn't need him. I do accept what Sam Raimi had to work with and I do think he made the best of it.
I enjoy this movie. The flaws were never enough to ruin all the positives.
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The flaws are everything the main character does - I hated him. Inexcusable.
I Full Heartedly Agree Because I only have 2 Flaws MJ is Fucking Bitch and it doesn’t have Peter Killing Harry cause of the Amnesia Plotline
Not really when a major flaw is the plot and characters lol kinda does ruin the movie
@@edbeasant9494 well we all don’t have the same flaws with the movie because opinions exist
The whole church scene is probably my favorite in the movie. Eddie prayed to God to kill Peter, and the demon in Peter was killed and then bestowed onto Eddie. Even despite all the memes it’s still a very deep movie
lol dude really went to chuch to pray for god to kill him
That scene sounded stupid
Yes, I'm happy to hear that there are still quite a few people who really enjoy Spiderman 3! I personally love it, it's one of my favorite Spiderman movies! The final battle between Spiderman, Goblin, Sandman, and Venom was phenomenal and emotional!
I don't like how Goblin Lizard look in this movie. I wanted them to upgrade Goblin and Lizard and they didn't do that. I wanted Lizard to look more like a Crocodile and Goblin to actually wear makeup but NOO! I guess they still consider it too scary. His hobogoblin look is ridiculous.
@@biguy617 what are you talking about bro,lizard isn't even in this movie
@@whodat879 I was talking about No Way Home
This movie isn't AS good as the first two, but I still really like it! It is kinda "all over the place" to an extent, and is a bit crowded villain-wise, but I still found the story arcs captivating. I'm a little mixed on how they kinda retconned Uncle Ben's manner of dying, but they do manage to get a nice message out of it in the end. I actually like in this one how Mary Jane is the one going through the "Who am I? What am I worth?" crisis instead of Peter, while he's pretty much riding high.
And again, Rosemary Harris as Aunt May kills it, maybe not quite as much as in the second one. But I just love the scene where when Peter is telling her that Spiderman killed Uncle Ben's killer with such pride, expecting her to be happy, and to his surprise and disappointment instead just says, "Well, Spiderman doesn't kill people," and then, what I think is clearly her best lines in the film: "I don't think it's for us to say who deserves to live or die. Uncle Ben meant the world to us. But he wouldn't want us living one second with revenge in our hearts. It's like a poison. It can take you over. Before you know it, turn us into something ugly." Which is another thing about Sam Raimi's Spiderman that I don't think you get with what we've gotten after, is the quotable lines from the films.
And okay, Emo Peter is HILARIOUS! I don't know if that's what their intention was or not, but I love that part because I just crack up as he's dancing and acting all "cool" going down the street.
I actually think J. Jonah Jameson (J.K. Simmons' character) was made a little too much the brunt of jokes in this one. I think they struck the perfect balance of him being snarky and comedic in the second one. His best moment for me will always be his reaction to "Could you pay me in advance?"
YES!! Spider-Man 3 is so underrated. The only negative I truly have is that Venom is very rushed BUT even Venom has an intense fight at the climax of the movie. I really enjoy the action, the humor and the emotional character arcs. Oh, and the cameo of Bruce Campbell is the best one out of the trilogy. Such an underrated movie.
It just has some cringe moments to me, some weak villains, and weak elements overall, but its still a good movie to me.
I have to disagree watching Spider-Man 1 and 2 then watching this. Just breaks my heart I was so disappointed when I first saw this movie..it’s not a bad movie it’s just so fucking disappointing
The main character was the dumbest I've ever seen, even before he got the dumb suit or whatever the fuck was going on there. As a casual fan I seriously disliked the hero.
@@libradawg9 Why dumb?
@@hereinthewired3515 Every scene he was in was so abrasive - saying things NOBODY would possibly say in the same situation. Before he got the bad mojo or whatever tf that was. But by far the worst was kissing the girl she just hinted jealousy at after he told her to watch closely. It made me hate him. The last movie when he tried going clean without the suit he was a fucking bumbling idiot, but a really lovable bumbling idiot.
I was almost in tears watching the CG Sandman come to life. Really beautiful sequence I didn’t expect.
I love this trilogy even with the flaws of part 3. I just wish that it only had one villain. Venom. Didn't need both venom and sandman. I wish we got Spiderman 3 Spiderman vs. Venom. Other than that, I can watch all 3 and enjoy them. Great review Cody.✌
And to your point on that sequence in SM3 being the sane thing in 2 just a little different, is the same way I feel about Bride and Seed of Chucky. There the same film. That's why their the only two child's play films I hate equally.
I will always have a soft spot for Spider-Man 3. Yes there are some things that should have been done better, but there is a lot of great stuff in it too. I still enjoy this movie over TASM 1 and 2, and Homecoming and Far From Home.
I watched Spider-Man 3 recently, it's a movie that's come a long way with me, when it first came out, I HATED it. But over the years, I liked it more and more. It has obvious flaws, but I genuinely enjoyed it a lot
At least Tobey got his trilogy. Unlike Andrew Garfield.
This movie will have a special place in my heart, it’s one of the few movies I remember watching constantly when I was really young
Is Spider-Man 2 an almost perfect film, maybe, but is this the most fun and rewatchable, yes and because of that I like it better than both of the previous
I love Spider-Man 3 as well. It’s not as good as the first 2 but it’s still a satisfying conclusion to this awesome trilogy. Not gonna lie though, when I rewatch this movie I look forward to Bully Maguire the most. He’s just so entertaining
I had 2 best friends that passed away within the last 5 years. So...I went back and watched this one again just today after listening to you. So I thought..."Alright, Fuck it Cody. For you, I will give it another chance." I don't hate it as much now. I agree with you. They are some scenes that got to me as I mentioned my best friends. As I did have to forgive them for things. So since I related to the movie, I got to appreciate it more. The "finger-pointing" shit/Chair dance. That's just Sam Rami's sense of humor. You are fan same as me. If you anyone is not. Just not gonna get "It" LMAO... Oh yeah, J.K Simmons just owned that character. He was born to play it!
It is one of my favorite films ever, i think it did a fantastic job of continuing and completing the trilogy. i think it is very underrated
Thank you, Cody! Finally someone is defending the widely-maligned Spider-Man 3. For 14 years, I have gotten non-stop shit from everyone I have ever known for liking this movie and defending it…to the point where people don’t consider me a “real” Spidey fan because I enjoy watching this flick. Yes, it is the weakest of the trilogy, it has a fuck ton of flaws, and it’s a huge step down from the perfection of Spidey 2, but goddammit! This movie is so enjoyable. The dance stuff makes sense! Peter is an old school dorky nerd, so his perception of what it means to be cool would look like that. The only thing I disagree with you on is Sandman. I loved him as a villain (including his daughter motive) and think he should have been the main villain. I would either take out (and recast) Venom or at least tease him at the end for the sequel (that we never got). Spidey 3 is still good fun and it closes the trilogy nicely. I tear up when Peter and MJ embrace at the end exchanging no words, only looks. Haters can calm the hell down. Lol I adore the Raimi trilogy and it was a pleasure being able to see them in theaters from age 10-15. I would rather watch Spidey 3 than the 2 Garfield movies any day of the week. 🤷♂️
I’m so glad we share the same thoughts on this movie. I grew up with it, I love bully maguire but agree the bar scene is too much and is dumb, I maybe don’t mind Topher Grace as much as others (never saw that 70s show tbf) but the face revealing does get annoying rather than showing venom more and not getting more venom lines outside of his recruit of sandman. I do however prefer topher grace’s venom in spider man 3 to the Tom hardy venom and I am going off of the first movie (haven’t seen Let There Be Carnage). The Harry/Peter storyline comes to a great conclusion and this movie honestly tops the first Spider-Man for me. I like the first one a lot but the green goblin suit kinda hurts the movie on rewatch. Obviously no where near Spider-Man 2 but in all I really enjoy this trilogy and is up there as one of my favorites of all time. Fingers crossed for Tobey Maguires return in No Way Home!
I completely agree with you Cody. While this movie is my least fav of the trilogy, and is flawed throughout…. It isn’t nearly as bad as the world has made it out to be. Not even close. Can’t wait for your takes on Garfields movies. Keep up the good work man! 🤙🏾
I saw the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy for the very first time a couple months ago. And I went into Spider-Man 3 with an open mind, despite all the hate the movie gets (I was a senior in high school at the time and I remember my friends saying they went to the premiere and half the theater was heckling the movie). Honestly? I didn't hate it. Yeah, it was clearly subpar compared to the previous two movies, and there were groan-worthy parts, but it really wasn't that bad. It definitely wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. Like you said, I think it they got rid of either Sandman or Venom, it would have been much better, and if they reworked Sandman's backstory it could have worked too.
As someone that within the last month watched the trilogy back to back 3 I find to be under appreciated and over hated as hell. Sandman was portrayed perfectly imho. The CGI still holds up very well, the action is great. Toby is still strong. Venom was obviously shoehorned in and we all know Sam Raimi wanted none of it lol
I can imagine Cody doing the Peter Parker sidewalk dance to try to make holly laugh
I was sad when Harry died. That was one of the first film scenes I cried over when a child.
This movie is very underrated for me and is my second favorite Spider-Man movie behind the second film.
I liked this. Peter Parker going dark had me entertained. The only thing was them using Venom (Spider-Man’s most famous rival) was utilized so quick in one movie.
I Honesty Like The Dark tone and the Humor Throne, I know people Hate the Maguire Dance Scene And The Part where Peter Humiliates MJ Cause She’s a Bitch
I have learned to like this movie. I like the animated versions about the Black Costume story. The Spectacular Spider-man version is awesome. The 90s version is great and I love it. I hate Avi Arad for all the interference with this movie. If he didn't interfere as much Venom would have done better. He doesn't even call himself Venom. The line in the comics is "We are poison to Spider-man that is why we call ourselves Venom" It would have been so cool to hear that.
The first time I watched the movie venom scared me. But as I got older, my may problem is that venom really didn't feel he fit into the main story. Venom felt more like a side mission
Well said, Cody! I completely agree with you. I am a Spider-Man 3 defender as well. I've never understood why people hate this movie. Is it flawed? Yes. I get all the issues that people have with it. Is it the weakest of the trilogy? Sure. But is it this god-awful, complete dumpster-fire that MOST fans make it out to be? Absolutely not! I love this movie despite its problems. It's action-packed from start to finish with some awesome fight scenes, it has a great message about the importance of forgiveness and how seeking revenge can change a person, and wrapped up all the storylines quite nicely. Like you said, even though I would have loved to have seen more from this version of Spider-Man...I am satisfied with this being the conclusion of the story. It doesn't leave anything unresolved or set anything up that leaves you hanging. This definitely works as "the end".
It's a shame that this was followed up with The Amazing Spider-Man, though, which I didn't really dig. In retrospect, I wish that Spider-Man 4 hadn't been cancelled and got made instead of that. Funny how, despite being rebooted twice...this is still the best set of Spider-Man movies...at least for ME. They haven't topped Sam Raimi's trilogy. No Way Home might the closest they ever get to doing it, but that's mainly because they are piggy-backing off these older films to an extent. They are taking us on a nostalgia trip, and I'm there for it.
The only problem I really had with this movie was the way they handled venom. Maybe Topher Grace was a miscast
Well I like his performance in the movie. He is perfectly playing the hot headed jerk to Peter Parker and is like him but is too motivated by his selfishness instead or selfishness. But I agree, when he gets the symbiote, he kinda sucks. His performance becomes freaking ridiculous.
My problem was they didn’t give him this sinister voice.
Loving these Spider-Man reviews Cody it like you reached into my mind because each review is exactly my thoughts of the movie
My gripe with this was Sandman arc we never find out if daughter survives her cancer it would been nice had scene with his daughter in remission & why he did what he did was for love & forgiven for going down life of crime path, love the church scenes as Peter fighting save himself ripping off the black suit very atmospheric scene.
I'd cut the Peter/Mary Jane scene at the club it drags on too long & added Sandman scenes with his daughter.
But overall despite some dodgy CGI this is a solid conclusion to the Raimi trilogy & I wish Sam & Tobey had continued & made another movie.
I always loved this film, despite its flaws and I always will. In my mind it's a classic. And it's actually my brothers favourite movie of all time.
I like and yes the flaws but the good things about the film make me like it but venom was ok I just wish he was more bulky instead of looking or feeling more like carnage
Hey, it's the movie that got me into the Superhero film genre and quite possibly movies in general. Its got its problems but I can put them aside and still enjoy it for what it is.
@@Merit2397 yes good point I still enjoy the film a lot
It’s very much frustrating to know that Sam brought Sony so much money and praise from the first two Spider-Man movies, and yet they didn’t trust in his third vision that they had to fan service venom into the plot. I could imagine this movie without sandman and it feels like it would’ve been a more solid better movie. Due to him being so large. When he is in monster form I could still see him and Harry attacking sandman. Make sandman do more evil things die to the pressure and attacks of Spider-Man. Until the end they both recognize that their violence was only bringing more pain into the world. They could forgive each other for jumping to conclusions and attacking one another. This is considering that they don’t put the Bens death retcon. If they wanted to add that it could still be the same message. How not knowing and not understanding a persons position could cause more pain.
I’ve alway loved this movie flaws and everything. It’s actually really good nostalgia aside
Absolutely underrated gem, seen this in theaters when I was 7 and absolutely have a great time with it despite its flaws!! 🤘🤘
Also the scene when symbiote Peter is on the phone whilst trying the land lord’s daughter's cookies was a really funny scene too
24:06 Exactly. He acts like it was no big deal even though Mary Jane probably considered the upside down kiss from the original special both before and after she found out Peter was Spider-Man. Seeing him kiss Gwen probably made her think "Oh our kiss wasn't special after all and he'd kiss any other woman that way." I know they were going for Peter's fame and popularity as Spider-Man going to his head after years of being bullied by the likes of Flash Thompson but they didn't do it very well.
This movie is awesome,
Positives
1) I love the final team up between Harry and Peter,
2)The Closing out of a chapter really hit me in the feels,
3)The Birth of Sandman was Epic
4) The Development of evil in Peter Parker was great
5) I got this one year on my Birthday and to this day I still really love this film
6) The Action Sequences are awesome
7) The Drama
8) Emo Parker is GOAT lol
Negatives
1) Mary Jane
2) Plot Development needed more time to flesh other characters out more
3)The Dialogue in spots, I really thought it was dumb when the landlord said "You good woman, I good Man"when trying to give Peter Woman Advice 😂
I still hold this movie close to my heart especially Harry's death which hits hard every time I watch it, Great Review Man!
We are in complete agreement. Is 3 flawed? Yes. Did they try to juggle about 12 plot lines when 1 or 2 would've worked? Sure.
But it feels like a conclusion to the trilogy, and all 3 films have the same feel and voice (looking at you, new Star Wars trilogy).
The theater experience for this one, I'll never forget. It was the first time I went to a midnight show, right before opening day. The place was packed, and loud, until the movie started, and everyone shut up, kept their fucking phones on silent, and immersed themselves in the movie experience. The easter eggs (things like Bruce Campbell) got huge reactions. We laughed and cried together, it was amazing. I don't even know if those types of audiences exist anymore!
Great review as always Cody
That thumbnail made me laugh waaaaay to hard 😂
You're absolutely right, the 3rd act have some issues but the movie is entertaining and has heart, and is better than any of the 2 new sad attempts to reboot the franchise with Andrew Garfield. It does not deserve the hate it gets from everyone.
One of the only reviewers I watch
It's how you divide it into sections that really appeals to me
I've watched your Hellraiser reviews multiple times
I don’t think this as bad as others say, although I was young when I first saw it so that could be it. Looking forward to this!!
Nice thumbnail Cody, I’ve been waiting for this one for a long time! Spider-Man 3 is my least favourite from the Raimi Trilogy but still my third favourite Spider-Man movie! It’s flawed but very entertaining and I find the bad parts to quite charming! Over the Years I learned to love Emo Peter/Bully Macguire for what it is. I like Harry, just wish he had a better Mask. The only thing I didn’t like was Eddie Brock himself. Some of the Ven fight was OK... Sandman was great and his final talk with Peter is my favourite part of the whole trilogy!
Bully Maguire is honestly the funniest thing from this movie and it makes the movie a bit more enjoyable cause of the memes
The gif of Tobey Maguire dancing with Joaquin Phoenix Joker kills me every time I see it.
18:50 Betty Brant fawning over Peter lol
I wonder what Sam Raimi’s original vision would’ve looked like doing sandman and New Goblin his way
I feel the exact same way as you Cody, the film definitely has problems but when harry and peter team up at the end it's fucking awesome!
You didn't mentioned that it was also the butler's fault that Harry took a grenade to the face after revealing he knew everything that happened too with the spikes on the Green Goblin's glider that killed Norman.
18:21 The women all laugh dismissively at emo Peter... except for the emo gazing creepily at him, but she gets ignored. Funny little moment that never gets mentioned.
This was the only Raimi film I had seen in theaters, and I still really like it when Harry shows up to save Peter at the end, hitting Sandman with a Pumpkin Bomb & defeating him so Spider-Man can focus on Venom. It was hype back then.
I love Spider-Man 3, and I don't care what anyone else thinks.
10:06 The best part is when Jonah sacks Eddie and when Robbie says "You know we're gonna have to print a retraction now" and Jonah goes "I haven't printed a retraction in 20 years."
Topher Grace was just skating through this,imagine if he was played by Tom Hardy without the bad dialogue,and not being bulked up,as Eddie Brock
This is not as bad as some of the comic book movies that are actually shit (Suicide Squad, Fant4stic, Catwoman) but compared to the first two its a letdown.
I've always enjoyed spiderman 3. I like the mean Spider-Man he's intimidating. Reminds me when he gets up and runs after he talks to uncle Ben for the last time.
20:07 Topher Grace covered in black ooze. Made me laugh 😂
Agreed on showing Topher Grace's face constantly once he became Venom, we don't need to see it every time he talks. Just leave it as Venom, Topher Grace didn't have an intimidating face to pull that off. I also feel they just threw Gwen Stacy in there to be "the other woman" to make MJ jealous, instead of having respect for the actual character and relationship she had with Peter in the comics (and Amazing Spider-Man films).
And lastly, just leave it as one villain, or at best two with Harry and Peter being conflicted between the light and dark. This was before the MCU-era where they balanced having multiple characters in one movie and even then there's usually just one main villain. The Raimi Spiderman films were arguably to the 2000's what the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher Batman films were to the 90's and the Richard Donner Superman films were to the late 70's-80's, they defined the era before there were so many superhero movies, so their flaws were more evident, because the market wasn't as saturated with them. But the point is, the more successful ones focused on one hero and one big villain, then studios got "ambitious", for lack of a better term, and had to throw 2 or more villains in the later films and it just became overkill, especially with the more cartoony Schumacher Batman films. This movie didn't need Sandman and could've done more with Venom and Harry instead.
Symbiote Spider-Man and Venom should have been saved for a later film. They should have gotten a better actor than Topher Grace to play Eddie Brock too. This film's version of Gwen was only there for a forced love triangle between her, Peter and Mary Jane and to give Eddie an obsession.
The score in this movie is also amazing, Christopher Young did a great job continuity wise. Contrary to what Hans Zimmer did to James Horner after TASM...
The forgiveness theme for this film really gets me. I feel like it flew over people's heads in 2007 lols
After all these years, i still enjoy this film, YES it’s messy as hell, but it’s so entertaining and has some legit awesome moments.
Love the movie, love this trilogy with my whole heart. If you consider all 3 movies as 1 movie like people go with Lord of the Rings or Back to the Future, it would be my favorite movie of all-time. I cry every time at the final scene with Sandman. The message of forgiveness is so beautiful. I also lose it when Harry calls Peter his friend as he dies. Cheesy sure, but I’ve grown so attached to that trio after these 3 movies, that it hits so hard.
25:42. "She's hotter anyway!"🤣🤣🤣
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I Always Hate it when they say the CGI was the problem with Spider-Man 3 because I thought there was Good CGI and Good Special Effects with Sandman and Venom I would have to see Topher Grace Reprise his role in the Venom Films
Spidey 3 is a good one. My feelings towards it is like the matrix sequels and star wars prequels....Flawed but had a strong vision behind those films. Great review!
I've always enjoyed this movies beginning and the end. When Peter has the symbiote is when it dips. I didn't like the raindrops scene in 2 and really didn't like his dancing in the streets in 3
Hi Cody, I just saw Spider-Man 3 for the first time tonite 6/5/22 & I Don't understand the hate for it either, as too really like A lot about it, especially its theme about forgiveness, & semi Happy & hopeful ending, despite it's flaws. Thus I truly Appreciate Your review of Spiderman 3;😊 I Also really liked RUclipsr Joe Blo's detailed review of why Spider-Man 3 is actually a very good film, & 1 other RUclipsr's detailed retrospective of it, but I don't recall his name.
Saw this one in theaters with my dad and brother. I was in my emo phase at the time, so, the edgy Peter Parker made me really happy to see at the time and I still love it. 😊
The bar scene really pushed it over the edge 😅 I loved how cringe it was && although it was shocking when he pushes MJ, I felt like that part was needed to help bring him back to reality somewhat.
From what I discovered, Sam Raimi originally wanted Harry Osborn to be conflicted over whether or not he would become the Goblin to kill his best friend Peter Parker/Spider-Man for his father’s death and Raimi not only wanted Sandman as the villain, but he also wanted to use the Vulture as a second villain with Ben Kingsley in the part before he was forced to put Venom in the movie.
I love all three equally and this no complaints about this movie never ruined it and I can watch for what it is and be entertained and laugh 😂 out loud
Actually you're wrong there Venom was the one that should have been dropped not Sandman. Sandman had a better story than Venom
Agreed!
Yup.
Always loved SM3. Don’t give a shit about what other people think. Its my second favourite Spidey movie. Love the SM reviews mate!
Never have truly understood the extreme hatred for this movie. It is the weakest of the trilogy, but it's no where near as bad as a lot of people say it is
when peter throw that green goblin bomb back at harry was the best
18:59 In other versions the symbiote either took over the sleeping Peter's body to swing around New York or made him angrier and more aggressive which in this film you only see when he shouts at Mr Ditkovich to fix the door of the flat, when he tries to kill Sandman and when he beats up and scars Harry. In no other continuity does it make him act like an idiot. The people who go "He's acting like what a geek thinks is cool" are just trying to defend a bad scene.
I would not want to live in a world where "Peter dancing in the club scene" doesn't exist
Hey I just want to say I’m Enjoying Your spider Man reviews and I would Like to see you do a ranking soon
Thanks for that nice civil review Cody, I think there's more fans of this movie than we're led to believe honestly. Unfortunately the hatred screams louder than the appreciation most of the time..
That rant face though 🤣 perfection!
Lmao. I'm watching this as I'm cooking dinner and the rant on Peter being an idiot about MJs problems and Gwen had me laughing my ass off in the kitchen xD
This was the first spider man movie that came out after I was born I think. It’s always been a guilty pleasure movie for me
We have very similar outlooks on most series which is why I love your channel , are you sure your not from New Jersey? Lol
First off, love this movie! It’s by far the funniest of the 3 and if you watch it as a comedy it’s amazing. Also, I love the jazz bar scene. It’s hilarious when he throws off the jacket and her hair flys back… “now dig on this”
Say what you want about Spider-Man 3 but the battles, the special effects (especially the parts involving the sandman’s transformation) it is SOOO badass and nostalgic! It was so ahead of its time back then. It fits so well after the final battles in: ‘Spider-Man 1,’ and ‘Spider-Man 2.’ I can only imagine how awesome it was to see this film in the theater back in 2007.
This is when art was beautiful. I always thought it was the most emotional. And it left us all wanting more
Did you notice the Bruce Campbell cameos in the 3 movies? The funniest was the French guy. xD
I didn't think this movie was that good, but it certainly didn't bother me that much. At least the good parts can make the film watchable, and most of the bad can be made fun of or tided over with a few shots of whiskey (sometimes both). It kind of reminds me of Batman Forever; it has its many flaws, but the film can still be a lot of fun if seen the right way.
This one is a messier film than the first two, but I still find it the most watchable of Raimi's trilogy. The Peter/MJ relationship finally doesn't have me wanting to tear my eyes out, for one. (Oh, how I'm looking forward to you reaching Peter/Gwen!) And it thankfully leans into the silliness that Raimi does better than the honest character moments.
I like it but my biggest flaw was the added way too much The studio should’ve never interfered
I totally get the concept of the sequence walking down the street mirroring the one from Spider-man 2. To me, the problem is it held Peter back from going as dark as I would've liked to have seen. I really love the fight in Harry's penthouse, but I wanted more of that. I think Maguire could've done a lot with a further descent into darkness.
My other issue was making Sandman sympathetic. Why do we have to do this again? They weren't going to match or top the portrayal of Doc Ock, because, tbh, Sandman isn't nearly interesting enough to do so.
This movie rules for Bully Maguire the meme king the single most ridiculously OP and broken character in fiction will say “I’m going to put some dirt in your eyes” and you’ll be out of there as well as more Mr Ditkovich asking for rent memes!!! This movie still holds well in all seriousness I’ll choose this over anything MCU puts out any day. If they wanted to do a Royale tag team fight I don’t think they should’ve out Venom in this movie instead you can have Sandman there and add some else like Rhino, Mysterio, Electro those would have been better villains suited for this where as Venom if he was to be in the movie should be the central focus due to how important and personal he is with Peter same goes for villains like Carnage or The Lizard these are more personal characters and having them in a Battle Royale in this fashion kinda takes away from that and just makes them seem characters in the background of the fight. Or they could’ve made Spiderman 3 broken down into 2 parts and 2 movies I think that would’ve been the better choice.
I'm still going to say this for as long as I have to, but Spider-Man 3 should've been split into two parts. I should've began with Peter getting the symbiote suit, fighting Sandman and Harry, with part 1 ending in him finally getting it off and Eddie becoming Venom as a cliffhanger. Then part 2 could've been Eddie (not just as Venom) setting out to completely ruin Peter's life, not just kill him, and he'd enlist the help of Sandman for it. But it was still enjoyable, I just feel that at the very least, the film should've been longer since there were three villains.
The jazz bar is actually my favorite scene of the movie 😂 I love it lol
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I like harry's arc in all 3 movies. His memory loss and heroic death all straight out of the comics.
The part where hes dancing and being super cringy, its how Peter thinks cool people act. Hes been a dork his life, he doesnt know how to be cool. And thus, Venom doesnt know how to be cool. Its supposed to be cringy, dorks trying to be cool usually are
That dance is EXACTLY how a nerd like Peter Parker would act if he suddenly got some balls and confidence.
Great comparison between this and Dark Knight Rises! They are definitely the weakest of those respective trilogies but they are very enjoyable nonetheless. 100% agree Cody.
15:13 It also takes away from the original film where the point was that if Peter had stopped Dennis Carradine from stealing the wrestling promoter's money instead of letting him go Uncle Ben would still be alive. And Flint Marko forgetting he had a gun and accidentally pulling the trigger killing Ben was stupid too. Hearing that his uncle died because Flint was an idiot should have pissed Peter off more not made him forgive him.
I say the biggest negative was casting Topher Grace as Eddie Brock. Eddie is supposed to be a physically intimidating man without the symbiote.
I think this movie should have been split into two to let this 3rd movie breathe a little more. Maybe introduce Venom somewhat as a cliffhanger to stick in the 4th movie where he can have it all with Spiderman. I do agree though, that this movies big bad should have been Harry. It would have made the narrative run more smoothly throughout. When it comes to Sandman? Cool villan, but we didn't need him. I do accept what Sam Raimi had to work with and I do think he made the best of it.
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