Nothing like a good comeback story right? Deathwatch coming back and Space Marines Balance Dataslate is overall pretty good too, it's a nice week to be an Astartes player!
Have you realised that the mission tactics is now only for units, models in the DW index, not for the core space marines CODEX. Mission Tactics is now an ability, so you can only use that on them. That's really impactful, means you really have to lean into kill teams to get the most out of them, but you'll suffer on not been able to use this on your tanks etc.
@@lanedelong3355 I had this same dilemma, but one model should die when you overchange the plasma, so effectively by the time you are getting shot back or charged, you are 5 and 5, so get the T6.
@@jasont587no. Don’t need to use the strat. Sternguard now reroll all wounds into oath target due to balance dataslate change. And tome of ectoclades lets you pick two oath targets once per game. So 3 ten man sternguard squads in drop pods come in on the turn you pop tome and the furor tactics (sustained). They will reroll all hits and all wounds into two targets with sustained. Should generate around 25 or more devestating wounds in one turn.
@@lanedelong3355 how would that work, so would you have the sternguard vets as ultra marines added into squad as allies as dont see how they fit into a kill team from index
Happy to see deathwatch back and finally made Fortis seem good on paper. I think like usual the Black Star was overlooked it should go back to 1 kill team not number of models.
It's great to have Deathwatch back! I'm sad my Proteus teams are gone, but I guess it's not too hard to move the regular troopers to Veteran Squads, pop off shoulder pads on Bikers to make them Ravenwing (with their Balance buff) and expand Terminators into full squads. By the Emperor, the new Deathwatch Terminators are beasts! Definitely the star of the index in my opinion. My only disappointment with the index is the fixed squad sizes. Not being able to field 5-marine demi-squads is... odd? Especially with the composition wording of the units seeming to indicate that possibility. I hope with the next Munitorum (and enough player feedback) that they give us costs for 5-marine and 10-marine units.
If I could take 5 man’s of the spectrus I would probably run them but at 200 points for a 10 man it’s just too much for one uppy downy unit. But yeah, the terminators are STRONG. The proteus KT will be missed but we have much to celebrate.
This was a great video, do you have an Instagram page showing off your deathwatch models? Im moving up from combat patrol games, would you have any thoughts/make a video on what a 1000 point list might look like? Thabks for the video
Glad you enjoyed it! I don’t really do instagram or anything like that. As for a 1000 point list, Deathwatch often doesn’t scale well to 1K because of the large , expensive Kill Teams. But definitely focus on smaller, hard hitting units like a twatchmaster or captain with thief of secrets leading a 5 man of DW vets and look at the 5 man terminator squads. They hit hard and are durable and at a good points cost.
I got the starter set a long time ago and never did anything with it, sp im going to use the 5 termies and 5 infernus and use the tyranid bits on their shoulders. i already have the deathwatch vets for my Agents army and am hyped to get some games with the new index!
Well the army is back and thanks to todays Balance Dataslate the Devwatch build is back because sternguard now reroll the whole wound roll into the oath target.
Nothing like a good comeback story right? Deathwatch coming back and Space Marines Balance Dataslate is overall pretty good too, it's a nice week to be an Astartes player!
It is indeed, good to be back. To be fair GW didn’t need to take DW away to being with, but these are mostly improvement over the original index.
Looks like I need to start getting mean with the crons
Have you realised that the mission tactics is now only for units, models in the DW index, not for the core space marines CODEX. Mission Tactics is now an ability, so you can only use that on them.
That's really impactful, means you really have to lean into kill teams to get the most out of them, but you'll suffer on not been able to use this on your tanks etc.
Jump Captain makes your Talonstrike T4 instead of T6, until you have a casualty or leave one intercessor out of the unit.
Ah, good point. I didn’t catch that.
@@lanedelong3355 I had this same dilemma, but one model should die when you overchange the plasma, so effectively by the time you are getting shot back or charged, you are 5 and 5, so get the T6.
LANE check the balance dataslate! The STERNGUARD COMBO IS BACK
I just saw. DEVWATCH IS BACK. DEVWATCH IS BACK!!!!!!!
Are you talking about using Hellfire Rounds on Sternguard? If yes, they are an inelegible target.
@@jasont587no. Don’t need to use the strat. Sternguard now reroll all wounds into oath target due to balance dataslate change. And tome of ectoclades lets you pick two oath targets once per game. So 3 ten man sternguard squads in drop pods come in on the turn you pop tome and the furor tactics (sustained). They will reroll all hits and all wounds into two targets with sustained. Should generate around 25 or more devestating wounds in one turn.
@@lanedelong3355 I didn't see that...
@@lanedelong3355 how would that work, so would you have the sternguard vets as ultra marines added into squad as allies as dont see how they fit into a kill team from index
Happy to see deathwatch back and finally made Fortis seem good on paper. I think like usual the Black Star was overlooked it should go back to 1 kill team not number of models.
Not sure why they insist on the Corvus not being viable, but yeah fortis is pretty strong at 200 points.
Genuinely happy for the DW players out there. Glad G'dub made the right call.
They shouldn’t have taken DW away to begin with but the Indomitor and fortis kill teams are improved and the talonstrike is good.
It's great to have Deathwatch back! I'm sad my Proteus teams are gone, but I guess it's not too hard to move the regular troopers to Veteran Squads, pop off shoulder pads on Bikers to make them Ravenwing (with their Balance buff) and expand Terminators into full squads. By the Emperor, the new Deathwatch Terminators are beasts! Definitely the star of the index in my opinion.
My only disappointment with the index is the fixed squad sizes. Not being able to field 5-marine demi-squads is... odd? Especially with the composition wording of the units seeming to indicate that possibility. I hope with the next Munitorum (and enough player feedback) that they give us costs for 5-marine and 10-marine units.
If I could take 5 man’s of the spectrus I would probably run them but at 200 points for a 10 man it’s just too much for one uppy downy unit. But yeah, the terminators are STRONG. The proteus KT will be missed but we have much to celebrate.
I would LOVE to give Indomitor Kill Teams access to those Deathwatch Veteran Thunder Hammers.
Yeah, the heavy Intercessor sergeant, at least deserves a power fist or thunder hammer.
@@lanedelong3355 Even just one on the sergeant would make so happy.
This was a great video, do you have an Instagram page showing off your deathwatch models?
Im moving up from combat patrol games, would you have any thoughts/make a video on what a 1000 point list might look like?
Thabks for the video
Glad you enjoyed it! I don’t really do instagram or anything like that. As for a 1000 point list, Deathwatch often doesn’t scale well to 1K because of the large , expensive Kill Teams. But definitely focus on smaller, hard hitting units like a twatchmaster or captain with thief of secrets leading a 5 man of DW vets and look at the 5 man terminator squads. They hit hard and are durable and at a good points cost.
I got the starter set a long time ago and never did anything with it, sp im going to use the 5 termies and 5 infernus and use the tyranid bits on their shoulders. i already have the deathwatch vets for my Agents army and am hyped to get some games with the new index!
Definitely a lot of play in the new index. Termies, Kill Teams, are all good.
Fk yes! Lane Deathwatch content is back! Thanks GW, I guess.
We are SO back! Huzzah!
Good to see Lane rocking dev watch again... Still hope to see the crons dominate though!
I guess you’ll just have to check out the game to see what happens.
@lanedelong3355 well that sucks, I really wanted the crons to win.
Maybe we do maybe we don't....have to check out the game to find out lol
I'm glad Deathwatch is back. I pray to the Emperor that that get upgrade sets... in 11th... who am I kidding? 😆 🤣
Well the army is back and thanks to todays Balance Dataslate the Devwatch build is back because sternguard now reroll the whole wound roll into the oath target.
Judy with thief of secrets and fights first with 10 vets! 😮😊
Thief on the judiciary is strong, to be sure, but there are so many good options for it. Might be the best close combat enhancement in the game?