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X9 Said "NO!" 🤦🏻♂️
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2023
- I guess the X9 has a few things we need to improve on 🤷🏼♂️
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I think all of these Manufactures need to give you a combine so they can find the problems they have. I love how you don't favor one color over the others. Perfectly transparent. You're a Great Man. Love your content
Thankyou good sir 🙂
@@mikemitchell2554you are amazing Mike 🎉
@@mikemitchell2554have you ever ran a case combine? I don't ever remember seeing one in your videos. Curious how they do.
@@darknorth239 or a Cat
My family runs Case combines here in southern Ontario
Lee is awesome :) Glad his path has led back to you all, as I'm guessing you are too. Smart guy not afraid to dive into things.
My local dealership converted the chopper knives to the S series style with the wings. Apparently not enough air flow and that’s why it plugs with the X9 blades.
The S series chopper knives were a large improvement in beans and there is also a plate on the bottom of the chopper than can be removed so material will pass through the chopper easier
If you take 2x6 and lay it in the grain tank on each side of the front cross auger cover it (use like 2 on each side) it will help this issue in lentils. We have had this trouble in North Dakota but this is the temporary fix till the new pip comes out to fix it
For a sweet Milli thats aggravating. If you don't sit on the seat right it'll beep like crazy but the back plugging up...nah we good😂😂
We actually just ran into the shear bolt issue on our x9 in wet corn today. After about 15 shear bolts, we discovered that the end section (folding section) of the unloading auger was jumping the cog when under a load. This would cause the end section to pack tight with corn which would then break the shear bolt. The main portion of the unloading auger has too much play and allows the cogs to jump. Just something to look at! We rigged it up by putting a couple hose clamps behind the main section of auger up near the elbow so that it couldn’t slide away from the folding section as far. Sorry for your troubles!
hose clamps and duct tape should be better then what john deere can come up with apparently for over a million bucks lmao
@@2007dalin unfortunately problems will be pop up regardless of the color of equipment.
intresting how the main advertisment for the X9 when it came out was the easy cleanout for chainging crops and harvisting seed but in your video i see alot of spots in the tank that are holding grain after its empty
From your first camera angle of the plug by the discharge, I believe I saw a large crack in a weld. If this was already mentioned I apologize for the redundancy. Thank you for sharing 😊
Claas next to test.
Agree
Don't tell Mike about Claas otherwise he will buy them and then he will make too much money.
Ya don't test a claas....
Ya end up with a claas 👌
@@timclarke8565 haha so true, that's why Mike has never demoed one.
Gleaner is a better way to go.
Hello Mike,love your show,Darrell from Ireland here.on fertiliser equipment I wash it down & when dry I spray on engine oil diesel mixture.Dilute the engine oil with diesel so it can be sprayed on.I use a spray gun for with a long nozzle for thicker substances than paint,works well & is very fast.A standard paint spray gun is just a bit slower.Of course you need an air supply (compressor)or I have never tried it but maybe take an air feed off one of your tractors.Keep up the good work good man.
We run a 2017 S680 and the more I watch your vids on the x9 the less I want anything to do with them. I keep seeing things they changed that has never given trouble on our old machine. When you plug the rear of ours it’ll kick your rotor out without even asking if you want to when it sees the chopper speed go to zero and I’ve never had to dig deeper then the chopper and the area under the rear beater. What a pain in the butt. Looks like a case of fix it until it’s broken
We’ve had the same issues Mike. Doing dry beans that had green stem and spots with leaves. Piss poor chopper design when it comes to this type of material. S series keeps rolling
Some potential solutions in the comments above.
It doesn’t matter how much the factory tests the combine before it is released for sale, there is always issues that come up when actual owners run the machines. AGCO used to have a crew follow the harvest monitoring what failed and what worked well, and fed information back to the factory. That was in the mid nineties with the Gleaner Combines, not sure if they still do it or not. It seems like more companies are having the customers do the final field testing, not by choice. Thanks for the videos Mike, be safe out there. Glad you to see Lee back in the mix. Maybe it’s Claas Time.
Mike said they were in some sort of contact with AGCO in one of the Ideal combine videos, not sure about the details
@@petermolnar8667With the Fendts it didnt matter because they were out there working on them every day anyway. Mike said very seldom in 3 years were they all operational at the same time.
Gleaner Tech van is what you’re describing. They’re still out there supporting the great silver fleet.
its already a red flag when mother deere wouldn't allow to demo a x9
Couple of empty 20 litre drums set in the bottom of the grain tank works well to slow the grain flow. Possibly a hard thing to do with a million dollar X9 🙈😂
Try a 9250 or the new combine Case is coming out with.
Not sure if you’ll see this mike but we run 3 X9 1000’s we had similar issues with ours with the choppers plugging. We ended up putting S series aerated hammer knives on the chopper and solved all our issues with the chopper plugging.
Confirmed by another comment below.
The chopper rotary knives are disrupting the air flow and stopping material from getting into the chopper from the shoe. Take the ramp out of the chopper and run your stationary knife back in at least 50%.
Have friend who has a new X9.
He had a issue with shear pins.
Tech found that on the swing part, factory didn't assemble it right.
Friend solved the issue by shimming the end swing auger.
I thing the issue was that the end wasn't going far enough into the long part.
Glad you got the shear pin issue fixed and saw the other potential problem at the discharge. Be careful Mike.
On the CR’s I’ve had to break the chain and route it so it only drives one cross auger after breaking shear bolts. Tough lentils as well but at least we didn’t have to drain it out the clean out door.
Starting to think John Deer’s are over rated and over priced !!
Glad Someone has said it Besides me. To many ColorBlind people that bleed this Overrated ,Overpriced stuff. Reminds me of the Fendts you had . Funny how the Green Stuff is showing itself.
Hey no slamming the door😅 i have to remind myself every time haha now when i get in the 9RX 590 I gently close the door and then realize there is no soft closing door on it😂
I am thinking the augers need a good washing on either a rainy day or when crop is tough
I love the hammer. Well, I mean crescent wrench no I mean the the the punch no the vice grip it’s 3-3 tools in one.
An old guy once told me that it is very important to always use the correct tool for the job. The correct tool is a hammer, and anything can be used as a hammer!
I've never harvested lentils but do quite a bit of pinto beans. Same thing, builds up like concrete in the auger if they're 13% or higher. We have broken plenty of shear bolts on the unload auger drive and have learned now that you just have to pull the covers off the bottom of the gearbox and drop all the crop on a tarp. Now we will fill the grain tank with water and run it through the auger if we are having problems. Seems to work pretty good on our JD S770. I see you already have a block off plate on the hole in the upper left corner of the grain tank which helps.
We have 3 x9 1000 do same thing in beans we just put chopper in low for time being worked fine never had issue we read a forum from deere says debris can get caught up in knives and gets flung back up on sieves and plug
Thanks for the input, unfortunately I also tried low and still plugged. I know some guys have been switching out their knives for hammer style for more air flow. 🤷🏼♂️
And I also know ppl have criticized that it's too green, but we also have a S780 in videos to come that doesn't plug up and Infact, jets right on by the X9.
Mike, you or your dealer needs to check the engagement of the drive cog on the folding auger. The X 9 combines sometimes are not checked for proper engagement on the folding auger drive cog so sometimes it just is not turned and the inner auger just rams the crop into the folding auger (which is not turning) and it bends the flighting. Easy way to tell if this is the issue is it will break the shear bolt when the auger is unfolded but will not if you unload with the auger folded.
German Streamer and RUclipsr twitchfarming Has a 8700 since three years and i think this year He had the most breakdowns since. If i recall correctly There were four Times in the whole season where He had to stop completely. The rotors ran out of lubricant, a Belt in the Header Broke, a piece of Metal from the Header broke and got through the combine, completely shredding the Chopper knifes so These had to be replaced and one of the belts for the unloading got old and hang through. So also no unloading There. But that Was it. It would be so awesome if the claas Marketing Team would Do you a Demo.
that sounds like maintenace issues mostly.. not a design flaw like the x9
Nice trailer type industrial air compressor can usually blow augers to free up stuff. even at 0:03:40 I'm betting its a problem with green paint.
Tough lentils are a good test of the machine.
Mike that sheer pin has been broken for a while by the way it looks I hope and pray harvest goes smoothly for you I know you had some hiccups already I hope the rest goes smoothly and you have a great bounty but keep up the good videos and good work
Like the way you break it and plug it and somebody else sorts it out while you film 😂😂
That's because these guys are too efficient and jump in before I can record and get it done. 😆 They are the best!
Mike needs a Colossus 9000 Flat Map version.
I see a fleet of s series combines in your future
Think they have 7 or 8 S series already
@@dirtdevil70 my point exactly, I see a few more to replace these x9’s
So - they told me to start farming! It`ll be fun, they said.... ;D ;D No, really, I reckognize all of your struggles, Mike - crossing fingers that the rest of your season will be less troublesome.
hey.. just to let you know mike.. claas has a sensor between the chopper and the rotors to say if the chopper is plugged.. its kinda pointless though as a claas chopper never plugs in all the years of running them even in extremely green material.. yeah that x9 looks like an expensive pile of crap lol.. some guys are having frames breaking as well
Guess I have yet to see an issue running a 16 row corn head in wet corn either sheer a pin or plug the unloading auger to the cart, but as someone pointed out you seem to find the exception
Stay safe!
I have been told that alot 😆 🤷🏼♂️
First thing they teach at John Deere Tech school is the phrase "No one ever had that problem before."
Mike, you have all the fun. 😂😂
A lot of the problems only came about when the manufacturers switched to rotary machines. The old drum type machines do not usually have these problems,they can handle a bit of green like weeds etc
Love my old 9610
These issues are inexcusable from what’s supposed to be Deeres flagship combine.
This OverRated stuff Breaks down just like the Fendts. You are just Now seeing it.
clean unload auger with 2 inch water pump -- hose placed in top end of auger -- 2 or 3 pump tanks of gas beside a dugout will get it done
I started driving combine§ in 1977 on MF 510, 520, 525, 620,
In 1984 the first New Holland 8055, then 8060 and 8070s, there was worlds between them, qualitywise,
Why New Holland has so low sales in the US?
For me, in europe they are still the best machines…
Great video Mike and Lee
Gotta love the sound of these machines.
Mike, thanks for anothe one of your excellent videos.
Any idea as to the weight of grain that would be in the full length of that X9 unload auger-?
Allll mmmaaannnnn c'monnnnnn lol, always something mike, always something, well I hope you got out of there, or is there a video coming with the storm hitting, lol, you have awesome days, an then there's days where it fights you the whole dang day, thanks for sharing mike,
Good luck 👍
We had same problems with New Hollands.
There is always something to make farming interesting. 😮
Get some new holland 10.90s on the farm 😉
You'd think an X9 wouldn't say no. 😊
30 year old italian combine has a sensor for plugin (non-rotary). You would think 1m Deere would have one also....
I'd love to see you try a claas 8900. Lots of those used just north of you in watson / quill lake area. Everyone seems to love them
You guys stop telling Mike about Claas, he will make way too much money if he buys them.
We just switched to a claas 8700. So far so.
Fuel savings over s series pays for the man in the seat.
You got to convince his investors to buy some claas combines
@@saskfarmer8957 Mike does not have investor's 😂
There are no 8900 claas in North America. The 8800 is the biggest here.
🤣 OMG! Mike is pissed !
Super lavoro molto bravi💪💪
Well, nothing runs like a deere!
actually the deere runs like an IDEAL
@@leestadnyk5573😂de
You should be talking with the combine manufacturer over why the straw from the lentils built up. Nobody wants to be watching a combine on fire in the middle of a field. You need to figure out why it wasn't feeding it out properly, combines are supposed to feed the straw out, not build it up inside until it reaches critical mass. Who would want to be sitting on top of a toaster fire waiting to happen?
Some of the comments on here indicate that at least some of the dealers have answers to the plugging and auger shearing bolts issues .
Magnifique x9 1000 et la coupe et le transbordeur et le 9560 est bien équipés 😮😅😊😂
That looked like Larsons. From black bean season. They put Maywest auger liners in there 790s.
Mike you need to demo Claas lexion.
These combines need a ladder mounted to them from the factory 😅
Watching your videos tells me one thing never buy a ideal or a johndeere to much down time I guess we will just have to stay with our 8250 caseih combines
Yup they never break down************🤔🤔
Never changed an auger shear pin? You've been lucky.
What is with these new combines having issues with chopper pluggings? X9 and the ideals before? Heck ive never plugged a CR chopper even in tough flax yet... like is lacking in tough condition testing.
Everything has it's problems, but flagshhip combines ya think that wouldn't be much of an issue.
Apparently someone who bought one of Mikes IDEAL 9s plugged the chopper 7 times in a mile when cutting some green oat straw. Someone on their farm fabricated a piece to replace the shark fin and it totally fixed the issue and they cut for ages without plugging up, no idea about the X9 though
Someone in the comments said their dealership switched theirs to the S series chopper knives with the wings. Inadequate air flow with the X9 knives.
In my Case 2366 i have bigger bolts for 30% of the capacity of that augers
Does the case have the same ratios on the auger bevel gearbox? Would you rather the auger twist up like a pretzel in the unload tube?
Combines don’t like weedy green shit.
Seems like a good ol 25’ head and slow down is a very good idea. 🤔
I don’t know enough about lentils but it really seems like it’s yet another crop that needs to see the swather first.
Glad you caught that plug when u did. Pushing those rotors apart is expensive.
I was waiting for this video ever since I heard you got X9s (we met at Wheatbelt last winter). I've heard nothing but horror stories from every customer I have with these. I think they'll be remembered as one of the worst combines ever made in 5-10 years. For what it's worth I'd highly recommend looking at either the 1090 New Hollands or the 8900 Lexion.
Twin rotors all seem to have issues in tough/ green stem conditions.
@@truthandfreedom885 that is certainly true, however the claas and new Holland machines seem to perform well enough in our area, and they are a lot less troublesome and a lot less expensive to work on than the green ones
Same here, my exact thoughts, in my area there are a lot of New Holland's and a few older Lexions and no farmer will buy another I'd say they are the world's top combines. Even the older Lexions are still better than all other combines. I've only seen one of two green Lexions here so far and boy are they happy farmers. S
Should be safety first. Working on a combine with the engine running in my mind is a no no. hands in augers, taking off belts, pulling straw out of choppers. I just cringe when people don things like that. My Uncle reached up to touch a pully to see if it was hot. Without thinking he reached for a moving pully with the other hand. His hand got wedged between a flat belt and the pully and literally burned off part of his hand before his son could get the motor turned off.
Larson's lined the auger like yours with a hdpe type plastic it stopped that buildup I think could be wrong...Great Vid👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
No matter what the product, $ 1,000 window for a house or a $1,000,000.00 dollar combine, A person cannot get the engineers to listen to them. About 20 times a year I yell out that all engineers need to get a swift kick in the nuts, then maybe they would listen.
They never will! Unless they actually use or service whatever they design, all the theoretical knowledge they might have, they can’t gain the practical knowledge by sitting at a desk. I’ve trained newly minted engineers that don’t have a clue, but feel they know more than the rest of us.
The main problem is the engineers doesn't work on the machine they make.
@bzs187 would help if they actually got to spend time running the machines as well, to see all the different conditions, issues etc
@@dirtdevil70Especially adverse conditions in crops they probably never heard of. At a combine clinic once someone asked " so how does that (whatever it was) work when you're combining corn in snow." Stutter, blank look.
@lynwessel2471 exactly to mention trying to design a combine thats expected to work in 15 different crops in multitude of conditions.... nowcsome things are just poor designs..like having to remove mutiple parts to change a hose or belt, or oil fills buried deep in a hole that collects dirt
Id love to see if a Claas would be any better but its not my money.
so green ones are not reliable soo no better ideal combine try a class 8900 combine
I've noticed that cutting lentils you're getting a lot of build up of material similar to that Chet Larson was talking about when cutting black beans. You shouldn't have to on a brand new combine but you might find it beneficial to install plastic auger liners to prevent the build up of gunk. I realise you receive recommendations from many viewers, all of which are 'experts' in mechanical engineering & good farming practices, but I hope you'll take my advice in good faith & hopefully achieve smooth running augers & a whole combine free of sheared bolts & smelly burning belts. Lastly, enjoy your trip down memory lane & as you bask in a hypnotic, nostalgic, nightmare of unplugging Fendt Ideal combines, take a second & think of me Not fighting harvest with every bone in your body, good luck my friend, good f*cking luck!!!
I thought the X9's came with a clutch to shut off the hopper drags so you could empty the auger? Or is that an option that you don't have on that one?
I believe they can shut off the front drag seperate from the back as well to unload at half speed.
I don't know how it is on the deere but on the 9200 series Case combines we have they all start up together and you can then shut off the drags after they start up. You could probably stop them immediately if you hit the button fast enough though.
You'd think an X9 wouldn't say no. . Mike needs a Colossus 9000 Flat Map version..
you must love jds lol great video
A bad for mike, is good day for youtube lol!
Back in the day Deere used to make the simper combines... Today as the machines got bigger, I guess they're all the same complexity, give or take.
Man that cab is quiet. Cant even tell if the unload is on..
Bout time they get that part right...
Oh dear . . . Claas is the the way to go . . 👍👍
Mike I am a student engineer myself, in my opinion in internship there should be a part of irl practice so you can see the pains you develop
A million dollar combine and a cresent wrench for a Tool 😮
Morning
Nothing runs like a Deere Mike!!
Why don't you invest in some decent equipment once...like New Holland or CaseIH???????
Gotta try a claas we’ve demoed a 1100 x9 and 8800 lexion and that lexion will almost lap it
Ron from Hartung family farms you watching this?
She much have been tuff on those last passes!!!
But Mike, that was too intense, waiting for the auger to clean out.
But with the look of your bubble up auger housing you can tell the conditions are way, way to wet. There’s not a combine in the world that would work well in condition like your in. I saw it at the dealership the mass amount a failures in conditions like that with New Holland & Massey combines. If your unload auger is looking like your bubble up augur and it will with time, we has to remove the complete auger, remove the flighting and then we could properly wash out the augur tubing.
We had trouble in soybeans in a wet fall. Had to keep an eye on it, take the bubble up out chisel the junk out and put back in. Also would build up on bottom of clean grain elevator. Solution there is one stainless paddle on the chain. Alternative: wait for it to snow? Sometimes farming sucks. Nowdays the UHMW plastic liners should help.
@@lynwessel2471 Ya if farming was easy everyone would want to do it right? I am not a Farmer but spent all my working years at a farm equipment dealership in the Service Dept so we got to see all kinds! Great advise to remove all the stuff built up on bubble up auger housing! It’s going end up causing him a lot of trouble if it’s not cleaned out.
@@BRPFan It will stop going around eventually.
@@lynwessel2471 Yes indeed it will stop but then you have a huge mess on your hands!
Hey Mike, does it have to be Green?
Stubble jumper from SW Sask.
Ya know on a half a million dollar combine youd think youd have a senor to alert you that your plugging up with crop trash smh. Im guessing its plugging due to the condition those lentils were in. I remember mike talking about how some of the straw was very dark in color meaning it was breaking down plus probably still holding moisture so just makes a recipe for plugging
Never thought JD green was worth the money
Not sure any farm equipment is worth the $ prices are crazy . Not sure how they can afford it .
Jerryspanglee6658 - I can completely agree with you there
HOW DARE YOU !!! In a Gretna voice!!
Yo, but it did not catch fire
so, thas nice.
Is your 690 prone to plugging, or is it just these large combines?
Is the short swing empty.
The problem with these companies is instead of making their equipment right and figuring it all out better they try to outdo their competition and that's with all of them. That's why we can't find a decent one and they keep going bigger and bigger way to fast
Need a case
Take the belt off the other side. Shuts one cross auger off
Why don't you turn off the engine when working on the belts or putting your hands in augers and drive belt assembly? Back in the day when I was working on the Massey Ferguson combine, the health and safety officer came out and gave me a rocket for that. Just because my boss was too tight to buy a new battery. I had to jump start it every morning!
Mike should test a nexat.