Volkswagen ID.4 Upgraded w/ Plug & Charge On Electrify America
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- 2023+ Model Year Volkswagen ID.4s have been upgraded to work with Plug & Charge on the Electrify America charging network. We give it a go in this video with the @OutofSpecDetailing ID.4!
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To help people understand the security difference between auto charge and plug n charge, compare it to swiping the mag strip on your credit card vs. using the chip (electrical contact or NFC). With the right equipment, it's not hard to steal and duplicate mag strips or Mac addresses.
My 23’ worked well on Plug in Charge.
I'm so excited my almost one year old ID.4 is even better for roadtrips
I think Kyle is more excited than Colton 😂
“Dog mode” is accomplished by using “immediate climate control” although it has to be restarted every 30 minutes which can be done remotely on the VW app. On the one hand it’s a pain but on the other it prevents forgetting about it and running the battery down.
Really? That’s good to know!
Activated this a few weeks ago and it’s been flawless so far!
The navigation in ID. Software 3.5 that came with my ID.4 is pretty decent here in Europe. I had no issues on my first road trip with an EV.
This past summer I got rid of my 2022 ID.4 and got a Tesla M3 for all the same reasons mentioned in this video. Good luck Colton and all the other ID.4 owners out there. Hope to see you at a Supercharger soon. That would be cool.
We plan on getting rid of our 2021 ID.4 and leasing a Model Y. VW software and charging is just lacking. Hate to support Musk, but Tesla is still at the top of the EV market(we still own a 2019 dual motor Model 3 and plan of keeping it for a long time).
As someone who will never buy a Tesla, I'd skip over all electric Volkswagen models too. They're lackluster in every way.
In the last three months resale values of EV’s have dropped 50% in value. Nobody is trading anything in unless you’re eating tens of thousands of dollars in negative equity. Think I’m full of shit? Tomorrow go try and trade your EV in. You will think dealer is joking on what will give you on a trade. We are stuck with these turds until the government buys them back from us. Thanks Joe!!
Just need them to get the older ones to also plug and charge. Just letting you know, I have a 2022 Pro S RWD, and have 59k on the car so far. It's been a great car.
Had the same, and I miss the 2022's automatic folding mirrors which are not available on any 2023.
Wait, 59K miles or 59K kilometers? That's a lot on a two-year-old vehicle regardless.
@@snakeeyes9246 59k miles in 18 months. I drive for a living.
I tested it out on our 2023 ID.4 a couple weeks back and it worked flawlessly. Car connected instantaneously and the two contactors clicked and it was getting amperage in around 50 seconds.
So looking forward to your review of the 2024 Chattanooga manufactured ID4. we are currently waiting on our delivery here in Canada. Thank you for all your good work.
It took around 20 seconds from plug-in to starting to charge. Nice.
Looks like the techs fixed the contactless terminal at the end of the video.
Happened to check used car prices and you can pickup a 2021 ID.4 Pro RWD for $23K with 15K miles. Amazing deal for those of us who weren't early adopters, can charge at home, and have another car for road trips.
Yes these EV turd values are dropping like a lead ballon. The party is over.
@@uutube243 Hopefully, we'll see prices drop even further on new EV's. A new Tesla Model Y Performance can be bought for $45K. I'm sure those folks that paid $65K for one are kicking themselves in the butt.
0:56 - PUPPY!!!
Both Of My 2023. Pro S RWD. Plug N Charge Works. Yeah. 37 year Retired VW/Audi Rep. Kyle
@14:54 - ok that was wild. They are using a 3rd party remote desktop app to access chargers?? That is something you should see if you can get EA people to talk about if you do any interviews with them about their maintenance and software.
Probably means they are running Windows.
@@jamesphillips2285 Yes they are running Windows 10. Sometimes the TeamViewer number stays on the screen, and people have connected to them. You can browse the web or do whatever once you're in with TeamViewer.
I almost bought a vw id4 but went with the Tesla model3 just because of the ease of charging.. I really like the id4 better !
I agree, it's awesome that VW finally did it. In fact all ID.4 owners (including German made 2021 and 2022) got the e-mail about plug & charge. And of course only 2023 are enabled. I'd be very interested why the German made cars do not have the P&C feature enabled... Yet. and if Ever. The good news - I have P&C at home :) LOL
Nice! We were promised Plug & Charge on our 2021 ID.4 1st Edition. And we now have a 2023 ID.4 Pro - so looking forward to this!
Just checking in from time to time to see if the US is still stuck in the middle ages of charging. Yup, still is. Greeting from Europe.
My Mach-e could this at EA three years ago. VW was caught in a time warp.
Thank you for the trips.
Just added Plug and Charge on my app. Thanks for the heads up.
There is a bug. Plug & Charge works ok, but I no longer receive session start / stop / summary email & texts, unless I use app to start. App session info is ok. I have an escalated call in to EA and have confirmed others have noticed this too. Main issue is you don’t receive text or email notifications when you start a session via Plug & Charge.
Plug and charge has been working for two years on my 2022 EQS.
FYI our 2024 BMW iX supports plug-and-charge with EA. I believe the earlier iX didn’t. Also Colton is rocking the one-handed iPhone Pro Max technique. I struggle with one handing it with the large form factor phones
My Lucid GT supported EA plug and charge in Dec 2022. MB EQ supported it too at about the same time.
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤
Looking forward to the 2024 ID4 review, as I've got one on order here in the UK.
interesting items I was unaware with VW - so we need a buyers checklist with things like route planning, pre-conditioning, plug and charge, OTA Updates, what else?
Another great video! Thanks! Question for Colton. How did he add a Pass + plan to his account when he already had the ID.4 plan? I originally had Pass + but when I added the ID.4 plan, Pass + got removed. I contacted EA and they couldn't help. There's no option for me to add another plan to my account.
Prices per kWh are skyrocketing over there!
Drove to Ok using plug and charge no roblems.
US is soooo lagging behind. In Europe Tesla are even using non Tesla chargers because they are cheaper sometimes and also faster usually (Ionity up to 350kW no sharing).
I went on a trip of around 375miles in Germany in a Taycan and in not a single second I was thinking about Tesla SC. We just have so many options now, it's not even really an argument anymore.
I watch Bjørn Nyland's road trips. Overall, not as easy as using Superchargers. And he has occasional problems with non-Tesla fast chargers too. Not as bad as the US CCS-1 problems, but still not as good as Tesla. .And I think he'd tell you that too.
Gasoline is very cheap in America. In Europe driving a EV costs about half as much as a fossil car does, so Americans have no incentive to progress with EVs...
@@stevemcgowen Not in Germany. BEVs are almost as expensive as ICEs per mile due to high electricity costs. These costs are mostly related to taxes, like 75%
Odd, here in Prague- next to Germany, it costs about 50% to drive my EV what the equivalent gasoline model would to go the same distance...@@computercrack
@@stevemcgowen what's your electricity price? Private it's 0.40€ for me around and SC is even more (depending on payment model from 0.40€ to 0.80€ per kWh
I find it interesting you all witnessed EA using team viewer to log in and remote control their own equipment and perform maintenance. Maybe this is a sign that they are getting better at maintaining the IT portion of the charging equipment. It’s ironic that with EA it’s often a crashed PC that makes a charger broken. Hundreds of thousands of high energy charging power electronics and it’s a $65 motherboard or a corrupted flash memory that kills the charger
Sorry if I missed it - when will the 2024 ID.4 be released in the US?
YEAH THIS! Any inside information? Thanks!
Can you please explain what goes on internally in a Electrify America or EVgo EVSE? What keeps breaking? Are there moving parts that break? Why is there so much downtime as opposed to Tesla superchargers? Thanks
They 100% have your numberplates, quick reboot before you arrive to avoid bad publicity
I dont miss heatpump on my id buzz pro ,but I do notice the the range in -20 😂 .
Hey Kyle u mentioned Q6 mileage accumulation by a local company to test charger infrastructure which company is this?
OOS, do you all know it the Audi Q4 e-tron also had Plug and Charge enabled or is this a VW improvement only? Thank you.
I think you meant to say PKI, not PKN 🤣. It's an acronym for Public Key Infrastructure.
How do you plan trips?
kia failed the dog mode as well,, since i do not take my car in for oil changes,, i miss updates since it does not connect to home wifi or the such.
Having to bring your EV in to a dealer for a software upgrade is ridiculous halfway through the 3rd decade of the 21st century.
Will it continue after a while or do you always have to manually accept the plug n charge at the charger screen?
I’ve never had the start lag, waiting 2 mins before the infotainment kicked in.
I have had it freeze once or twice a year in the almost 3 yrs I’ve had it. I just restart.
Way cool... I'll have to try ...
So? How long did it take??
Too bad my ‘23 fails to activate plug n charge. Support ticket open since they announced it weeks ago. Pretty much sums up my tech experience with this vehicle. Won’t be getting another VW
Dog, and Camp mode!
Can tell me what the best obd reader to get for a chevy bolt ev
What are chances of battery preconditioning coming to an OTA update soon?
What version of software is this ID.4 operating on? My wife's Canadian ProS AWD late 2023 is v3.5.
When is Rivian and every other manufactue getting this!!!
What about us 2021 owners who have been there since the beginning and have been patient with VW with their SW updates? Are we gonna get plug and charge at some point at all? Some old Bolt EVs have plug and charge with EVgo.
Good question! Alex Guberman posted a dramatic end to his ID4 lease on his RUclips channel. Hilarious!
Think 3.5 will ever be upgraded to 4.0?
Whopping 100kw for a ID4? I wish we ever got that here. 40-60kw is the average from (20-40% battery) at all the EA chargers in New England (CT, NY, MA, RI) I've ever been to, with our '23 and '22 ID4's. A few were only in the 20kw range. Max was 80kw just a few of times. All while other car brands at the same time are charging 120-185kw at the same time. Why are ID4's being throttled at AE?
Does anyone know if the 2024 Hyundai Kona is Plug and Charge capable at EA? I installed the EA app (Hyundai provides 250 KwH of free charging at EA) . I looked for the Plug and Charge setting on my app, no joy. However, the EA app doesn't even list the 2024 Hyundai Kona electric as a vehicle choice, so I Selected the 2023 Hyundai Kona for now. I suspect charging will need to be activated with EA app.
The ID 4 without preconditioniing still charges very fast in very cold weather IF .. IF you are well under 10% SOC. I charged today 17F outside, battery temp 47 , and immediately pulled 130kW , was just there for 5 minutes as I was just testing the new Circle K 180kW. Kyle yourVW sales guy "Bob" posted the otherday that 2023 will get Software version 4.0 ..should include preconditioning?
Ugh... not for me at any SOC. Most ID.4 owners I know struggle in the cold at any SOC. I do really like my 2021 ID.4 but it's not a great charge on the road car. Sucks in the cold. We can't get above 34kw most of the time unless it's above 50. I was at 7% last week in South Tahoe and 33kw max.
I’ve called EA and asked what the ‘21 pro rear is asking for and they always say it’s within a few Kw of the supply. I can’t get my Vpeak one reader to work.
Such good car puppers!
I don't really get it, why is that a big deal? Here in Europe Ionity supports plug & charge for quite some time. Got my Cupra Born in late '22 and I could activate P&C right away.
Same with AutoCharge at EnBW Stations. Works great with my old Ioniq.
Skip to 11:30.
Come on EA and VW.. give use 2021 owners plug n charge
Funny, I always assumed VW always had plug and charge on EA.
How do I get a job testing new ev vehicles like that
As I've said before you don't any of these EV issues with an ICE vehicle. Never in my whole life and I've been driving and riding ICE vehicles since I was 16 and I'm now 70 have I not been able to fill my vehicle with gas/petrol in many countries in the world. I'm now living in the Philippines, where in rural areas the gas/petrol stations only have two pumps but, both are always working and if they were not working I only have to drive/ride a couple of miles to the next one. Plus, I can pay in cash and the gas/petrol is pumped for me, by the attendent!!!!!
Man does EA really need to use BSD or even Linux as their charger OS. Windows is an awful choice!
VW emailed me that it won't work on my '21 ID.4. Their overall support for the first model year ID.4's has been nothing short of atrocious.
I got the same email 3 days after getting one that said it will be working after I set if up. My 1st Edition has been horrible with customer service, electronics and software. Got the 1st software update last summer after waiting over 2 years. Was promised another update, ota, in Nov '23 but haven't seen it yet. Door handle recall 9 months old with no fix available still. Other than that, it's a great car
Colton has become a tesla snob. "Is charging at a whopping 101KW" 15:03. The thing had a cold battery, and was around 35%.... and he's still turning his nose up.
This doesn’t work yet for USED 2023 ID4s, so Volkswagen shouldn’t pat themselves on the back too hard yet.
So far their plan is implemented to be tied to the free charging plan. If you’re like me and you bought a used 2023 IN 2023, and you aren’t eligible for the 3 years of free charging, then you don’t get plug and charge. At least not yet. They really do need to get around to it though. It would be annoying if they waited until people started to age out of free charging before they implement plug and charge on other kinds of plans.
Do you need 3.5 software update?
No
Even a 2016 Volt has battery conditioning, no reason VW shouldn't have included it!
whoa...$0.56/kWh is pretty high, dang :
16 min video for plugging in a car. Mind boggling.
Where's Alyssa's Taycan?
That's not Alyssa's, that was his girlfriend's car. Haven't seen her in a while she might not be his girlfriend anymore.
@@InternetDude oh! Thanks, had no idea, where's the dating video Kyle?! ;)
@@InternetDudeKyle cleaned that up REAL quick.
It wasn't Alyssa's :-S
blue screen of charge death.... WINDOWS
This VW improvement video is like a Tesla commercial
The arms outstretched arms thumbnails thing is contagious! Every single person in the thumbnail is doing it. Be careful out there, people. Ain’t no mask gonna protect you this time (not sure it ever did).
What about Alyssa sister and her ID3
Mikayla sold her ID.4 and went back to an ICE Subaru IIRC. Kyle mentioned it a little while back in a video.
Kyle, what’s your thoughts that EV’s values are almost zero? Most EV’s bought within last six months are worth LESS than 50% of what paid for them. Foresee a MASSIVE EV repo coming.
which ones are 50% depreiation in 6 months? I want to buy
My 2023 ev6 GT and 2023 ionic 6 AWD limited. Are you reading the news everywhere besides these fantasy land RUclips channels? EV’s are dead. Both of my cars are three months old less than 600 miles and NO dealers in Las Vegas want them. They can’t sell the new turds they have. It’s horrendous. Going to be a world a hurt when these EV sheep try to trade in or sell and there worth jack shit. The HIGHEST offer I’ve received on either car was $23,000. Most dealers don’t want at all period.
Today the Insurance auto association published that EV’s cost 80% more to repair than ICE cars. Any clue what this will do to values of these turds we own? You’re going to see new repo companies open just to repo these shits. People will realize their worth nothing and just stopping paying the payment every ment and take the repo hit on credit. It’s sure better than losing tens of thousands in value.
And guess what happens if Trump elected? We all will have to PAY SOMEONE to take these turds from us. The writing is in the wall. EV’s r dead and getting worse by the day. This is a huge financial problem for all us idiots who bought these boat anchors. The democrat social experiment strikes again. Between both my cars I’ve lost $60,000 in value off the MSRP’s I paid in THREE MONTHS! Apparently RUclips sheep have not figured out there in the same exact situation.
And KYLE has been asked his opinion on this by many people and he’s not even once replied. He knows. But if he openly admits. He’s out of a RUclips job so he stays silent. I suggest he open a repo company specializing in repo’ing EV’s. This will be the hottest new business very very soon.
Regarding non-Teslas using Superchargers… sounds great, but in some places, like Silicon Valley, certain superchargers are already full with Teslas during peak use times. Soon, Tesla owners will go through pain because some folks made the wrong EV purchase decision and the other fast charging companies were half -A in their implementation and support? Stop gushing over how great things will be with non-Teslas using Superchargers!
Imagine supporting someone like Muzk....
NOT Wolkswagen but Folkswagen pronunciation.
Audi 2024s got it, 2023s will not. lol
Boring. I like struggles
Tesla's last remaining advantage will be gone in a year or two.
They will always have the advantage of reliability. EA and EVgo are still subpar charging alternatives. I mean come on, one of the stations in this video was under maintenance, and the other had a non-working credit card reader. EA stations are rarely ever 100% operational, it's sad.
@@fiehlsportPartly due to moronic users. More than once, I've seen tabs broke off of a connector.
The main advantage is that Tesla can sell a Model Y RWD for $43,000 and a Model 3 RWD for $39,000, and still make a profit. Tesla's driving down costs relentlessly. Currently the cost to make a Tesla, on average, is $36,000 and that's down -$3000 in 2023. Expect to see continuing falling prices on Teslas that legacy autos can't keep up with, and when market demand needs to be stimulated, Tesla will have the ability to cut prices further and still make a profit. ...... VW can't even make a decent Navigation system. Who would pay $40,000 for that capability? And non-Teslas will not have access to V2 chargers, and there at least 10,000 of them. You could easily go anywhere in the US, from end-to-end, and use only V2 chargers. Not as fast as V3 but still fast, and I want access to V2s too.
Don't get your hopes up - now that EVs are going to a standard plug and protocol, I think you'll see a great improvement in reliability in the next few years - especially if automakers adopt plug and charge like this it's game over for Tesla@@fiehlsport
You mean the ID4....a VW, did not have plug and charge on th VW charging network till now? WTF🫢