A Question: is the battery pack in Id7 the same as Id4 ? As in same chemistry and size? Has VW limited the Id4 to give some separation to the higher spec Id7... For a NMC pack in 2024 charging speed is a bit average! I'd happily own a id4 and it's charging wouldn't be a limitation with the chargers where I live, not many over 150kw here. Thanks for the vid😊
Hi, just got our 2025 ID.4 last Friday and as we haven't got the home charger yet so we needed to charge at Tesla this Saturday. We came in with 30% SoC and it quickly went to 150 kW @ 35% and stayed there for some time and the total time for the 39 kWh we got was under 20 min. Is the charge curve better for the 2025 ID.4 ?
New 2024 ID.4 pro (if it has 82kwh battery) should reach 500 volts... Seen manly reach into high 180s and even low 190s.... Used to have Ioniq 5 AWD with 77 kWh battery, and that chargest afaster, but think now that that car's lease ended, I am really considering ID.4 Pro S. AWD or RWD? Likely AWD but haven't decided. Miss having option to get the black or blue with whhite roof...
The new ID.4 and old ID.5 might have same curve under optimal circumstances, but getting those optimal circumstances is difficult, so pre-heating is probably gonna make huge difference there
@@RonnyR123 yes, me too! But only in summer time. In my experience you’re basically fucked in all other months if you want anything fast without much effort. So preconditioning will be a game changer for me with the newly ordered ID.4
@@thomash5342 here also in winter those charging speeds, but winter in Belgium is not really cold. But, also during our ski vacation in winter to the French Alps, always had great charging speedd
@@thomash5342 if you live 8n a really cold climate, than yes, the preconditioning will have some benefit, but for like 90% of people buying cars, they don't live in such cold environmenta
It's a Tritium charger what else is new and if they go totally bust only be a matter of time before any spares Ionity has runs out and chargers stop getting repaired until they do a full rip & replace project switching the hardware to another manufacturer perhaps Kempower or Alpitronics or ..?? Just not ABB as Bjorn calls them Always Be Broken. Looks like 70% is where you unplug and move on based on that charging curve.
I have a U. S. built pro s awd with sk on cells that peaks at 192 kw. I charged 10-90% a couple weeks ago no battery preheating in 48 degree temperatures. It took 35 minutes. I’m guessing the 4-90 would not have been vastly different. I find all of the different batteries and charging curves very interesting.
@@coreyschmidt734 "48 degree temperatures." that is very hot. Best temperature for charging is 30 to 40 C degree. Above 40 C degree I believe ID EVs will reduce charge speed to avoid over heating.
In the rear PSM new APP550 with up to 210 kW, in front the same ASM as earlier, made by Magna. In total provides max 210 kW (limited by Sw config), which is same a RWD model, but AWD has more torque. ID.4 Pro (RWD) 210 kW, 545 Nm ID.4 Pro 4motion (AWD) 210 kW, 679 Nm ID.4 GTX (AWD) 250 kW, 679 Nm ID4 RWD has more torque than a Tesla Y LR dual motors.
There is actually no real improvement in charging compared to our 2022 id.4 with software 3.2, except for the preconditioning. That's a big dissapointment
What temperature does it preheat to, is it about 25C?
A Question: is the battery pack in Id7 the same as Id4 ? As in same chemistry and size?
Has VW limited the Id4 to give some separation to the higher spec Id7...
For a NMC pack in 2024 charging speed is a bit average!
I'd happily own a id4 and it's charging wouldn't be a limitation with the chargers where I live, not many over 150kw here.
Thanks for the vid😊
GTX and 4motion charging curve has been improved in 4.0 and actually charge faster to 60% than RWD.
Was about to ask this question since i bought a 2024 4motion! Glad they adjust it!
Do you have any ref / link to 4 Motion curve by miracle?
Hi! Other than their similar charging curve, what's the difference between iD4 with 3.1 software and iD4 4.0 in terms of 'real-life' consumption?
What temperature was outdoor?
Was the battery preheated?
Hi, just got our 2025 ID.4 last Friday and as we haven't got the home charger yet so we needed to charge at Tesla this Saturday. We came in with 30% SoC and it quickly went to 150 kW @ 35% and stayed there for some time and the total time for the 39 kWh we got was under 20 min.
Is the charge curve better for the 2025 ID.4 ?
New 2024 ID.4 pro (if it has 82kwh battery) should reach 500 volts... Seen manly reach into high 180s and even low 190s.... Used to have Ioniq 5 AWD with 77 kWh battery, and that chargest afaster, but think now that that car's lease ended, I am really considering ID.4 Pro S. AWD or RWD? Likely AWD but haven't decided. Miss having option to get the black or blue with whhite roof...
Did you test the 4.0 gtx?
The new ID.4 and old ID.5 might have same curve under optimal circumstances, but getting those optimal circumstances is difficult, so pre-heating is probably gonna make huge difference there
I have actually always been able to charge our id.4 from 2022 with 3.2 software with this curve. Only slightly lower peak of 130-135kW
@@RonnyR123 yes, me too! But only in summer time. In my experience you’re basically fucked in all other months if you want anything fast without much effort. So preconditioning will be a game changer for me with the newly ordered ID.4
@@thomash5342 here also in winter those charging speeds, but winter in Belgium is not really cold. But, also during our ski vacation in winter to the French Alps, always had great charging speedd
@@RonnyR123 yeah, I think that is a bit different here, temperatures of -20 are not uncommon
@@thomash5342 if you live 8n a really cold climate, than yes, the preconditioning will have some benefit, but for like 90% of people buying cars, they don't live in such cold environmenta
Shouldn’t the ID4 charge up to 185kW? Even the 2021 with 3.1 software and above
Would be great to have a comparison between the different wheels (19" to 21") on the same car.
How do you think different wheels are going to impact charging?
The CATL prismatic battery charges "slow" but steady. 🤷
It's a Tritium charger what else is new and if they go totally bust only be a matter of time before any spares Ionity has runs out and chargers stop getting repaired until they do a full rip & replace project switching the hardware to another manufacturer perhaps Kempower or Alpitronics or ..?? Just not ABB as Bjorn calls them Always Be Broken. Looks like 70% is where you unplug and move on based on that charging curve.
It's very strange. Normally the charging speed should be 175 kw/h.🤔
That's the case in France.
Only the gtx or 4motion cars do that
@@bavolauriks1985 Which have LG batteries. The single motor ID4 has CATL batteries.
I have a U. S. built pro s awd with sk on cells that peaks at 192 kw. I charged 10-90% a couple weeks ago no battery preheating in 48 degree temperatures. It took 35 minutes. I’m guessing the 4-90 would not have been vastly different. I find all of the different batteries and charging curves very interesting.
"175 kw/h" you must mean 175 kW.
@@coreyschmidt734 "48 degree temperatures." that is very hot. Best temperature for charging is 30 to 40 C degree. Above 40 C degree I believe ID EVs will reduce charge speed to avoid over heating.
Would be really cool to hear what motors the new 4motion has.
In the rear PSM new APP550 with up to 210 kW, in front the same ASM as earlier, made by Magna. In total provides max 210 kW (limited by Sw config), which is same a RWD model, but AWD has more torque.
ID.4 Pro (RWD) 210 kW, 545 Nm
ID.4 Pro 4motion (AWD) 210 kW, 679 Nm
ID.4 GTX (AWD) 250 kW, 679 Nm
ID4 RWD has more torque than a Tesla Y LR dual motors.
There is actually no real improvement in charging compared to our 2022 id.4 with software 3.2, except for the preconditioning.
That's a big dissapointment
You need to do 3-5 charging attempts to filter out any issues that a particular station might have. Peaking out at 130-140kW makes no sense.
I charged my Tiguan 2.0 TDI from 30km to 1120km range i 3 minutes. Drove 1060km in -20 Celsius, and I had an inside temp at +21.
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