And use their pensions to pay off any awards. Our tax dollars shouldn’t pay out ANY MORE LAWSUITS. This is a cultural thing. They didn’t even care that they were in front of peoples homes! Imagine looking out your window. Dreadful!
Can you think of any negative ramifications of your idea? What career criminals might do knowing this and how cops might respond? Obviously, this case is about a failure of leadership in the Memphis PD and that young man should still be alive today. Btw... These cops won't receive any immunity. The immunity they have is only in a life threatening situation which they clearly knew and that's why all five of them will be going to prison for a very long time..as they should. So, your suggestion is irrelevant. It wouldn't change the outcome one bit. But, I'm still curious if you thought this trough any further. When police are in a life threatening situation, having to make a split second decision in a dark alley at night...what might happen?
@SABOtage Labs yes, I have thought very much about my idea. and I stand by it. I am not interested in the safety of cops. if they are confronted with a life threatening situation. they can deescalate. they can walk away. they can drive away. they can discreetly follow a "subject" (who has not been tried or convicted of any crime) and they can apprehend him walking out of a 7/11 When he is not expecting it. what my idea would do is take the "I'm the Authorit attitude out of every situation.
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY shields CORRUPT Fairy-tale Heroes in BLUE from Accountability and Liability distinguishing the POLICE as the #1 "Most Hated TAX Collecting TYRANTS" against "We the Good People" and humanity! (Money, Arrest, or Death?) MAD! (Police = Violence, aggression, narcissism, alcoholism, and, if there is a God, suicide!)... - QUALIFIED IMMUNITY "PERVERTS" HUMANITY AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL..
Well... Not only police culture. In any cultural issue like this, you can never resolve it or even making it better by changing one side of it. There are cultural issues on both sides of this. And, they can both be understood to a degree. I'm not accusing or excusing either side. It's a matter of human nature, psychology. This issue is so much deeper than... One side is broken... Fix it. It's that thinking that's got use here. it's also not going to be fixed by govt. Govt is a primary factor in why things are broken and even getting worse.
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY shields CORRUPT Fairy-tale Heroes in BLUE from Accountability and Liability distinguishing the POLICE as the #1 "Most Hated TAX Collecting TYRANTS" against "We the Good People" and humanity! (Money, Arrest, or Death?) MAD! (Police = Violence, aggression, narcissism, alcoholism, and, if there is a God, suicide!)... - QUALIFIED IMMUNITY "PERVERTS" HUMANITY AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL...
Hundreds of police officers are caught yearly of rape/sex crimes, assault, domestic violence, murder, perjury, planting of drugs and evidence, etc... Police think they have God-given authority over man is the work of Satan and narcissism, not of law, Romans 13, or of God! QUALIFIED IMMUNITY PERVERTS HUMANITY and JUSTICE! - Turtletruth (Semper Fidelis)...
Well..no I gotta ask. Since 1844...the police have been evil and just bad. Let's say I accept that. Ok, what do we replace them with? What's your solution? We know what you hate and see as the problem. What's the alternative?
I can't remember the last time I prayed for protection against the devil itself. But Godamit that I forget to pray against police encounters as I wake up to live everyday! I also never forget to tearfully hug my kids as they go out everyday into police-USA!
That's a nonsensical position and you should probably read up on what their immunity is. They were never in a life threatening situation. That's exactly why the were not only fired but charged with murder. Obviously. So, even if qualified immunity was removed it wouldn't have mattered in this case. Besides that. Have you ever considered the ramifications of removing qualified Immunity? I'm guessing no...since you don't understand what it means and covers. Guess that will have to be a rhetorical question. What might policing be like if cops didn't have immunity if life threatening situations. I wonder? Seeing how murder in black community perpetrated by black boys and men is estimated to increase by 50% in the last year die mostly to politicians using this issue to keep people angry and scared so they can gain and maintain power...what could happen to crime stats when immunity is removed? Hmmm
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY shields CORRUPT Fairy-tale Heroes in BLUE from Accountability and Liability distinguishing the POLICE as the #1 "Most Hated TAX Collecting TYRANTS" against "We the Good People" and humanity! (Money, Arrest, or Death?) MAD! (Police = Violence, aggression, narcissism, alcoholism, and, if there is a God, suicide!)... - QUALIFIED IMMUNITY "PERVERTS" HUMANITY AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL.
@@turtletruth QI (only protects LEOs when it's determined someone rights we're violated. In this case it's not even going to come into question. The cops have been criminally charged and I have no doubt they will all go to prison. Maybe not all for murder 2 but all are going. As they should. So...now lets say this kids the cops involved? What exactly are they going to get from a convict? With QI, what are they going to get from the city? Millions!!! Another issue to consider. There was a city in California.... I wanna say Sacramento or San Jose, can't remember specifically. What I do remember is in the year after they introduce body cams for all cops and cams on the cruisers and funny thing happened? Complaints filed against cops for rights violations to violence dropped by 80% in one year. The remaining 20% we're proven to be false claims and never even made it to discovery in a suit. Get rid of QI and you will effectively end policing. End policing and you have the law of the jungle. The strong devouring the weak. Besides that... How much money do you think cops make? Most are like any other middle class people living paycheck to paycheck like 68% of families in this county because our political leaders care more about power and keeping is angry and divided so they can maintain power. What happened in Memphis was a psychological display of human nature. Cops that one, seem like they never should have been on the job but... Have been broken by seeing murder, violence, child abuse and the fact that 90% of the people they encounter hate them and lie to them. This kid that was killed...idk...I'm waiting for more info but in many other cases. .. There is this culture of resisting anything a cop says or does can be ignored and then people act surprised when things don't deescalate. I've been in 2 felon stops and had two detectives detain me on the street. Was a simple process? I kept my mouth shut. Listen and complied with instructions and it was all peacefully over in a few mins. How many of these cases would have different results if people only honored the agreement we have in this country. Is the thought of a day or two in jail and and a day in court the end of the world? Is it worth your life to run from the cops no matter if your innocent. I'd really love if there was a way to simulate what being a cop is so people like you could see how you would react in situations. Especially after say 5 years on the job. All these people airing their opinions like they have any clue of what they are talking about. You can't just say cops are bad and change needs to happen without while saying everyone in inner city violent areas are all angels and innocent or have some right to ignore police because of what happened 150+:years ago and was happening for all of human existence before that. Is still happening around the world today. That fixes NOTHING. It's just throwing kerosene on a blazing fire. You're only making worse suggesting something that won't only not fix the issues but make them worse. Try and consider that small percentage of any community, Regardless of ethnicity which has zero to do with anything...the maybe 10% of criminals that prey on the weak and innocent. The cops wouldn't need to be there or use violence if none is created by others! Root causes! Marcus Aurelius. In each issue, ask what is it's nature. Simplicity. ROOT CAUSES! Maybe start with our politicans as every social issue can be traced right back to thier failures! Root causes!!!!
@@Sabotage_Labs Thank you for your input. However, personally, I would rather see bad police officers personally liable, financially! I would gladly sacrifice a state payout in favor of a personal suit against the individual officer! (That's where the suit properly belongs as the state was not at fault!)
Did you see the way the cop dragged him out of the car and just started yelling and attacking him. He ran because he was scared. Even if he ran that does not mean the cops get to beat him to death.
It would be interesting if we were all equal to the multi millionaire/billionaire club of philanthropist, paying little or no tax, but could donate money that personally serves our own interests. Would policing still exist?
Take immunity away from cops and hold them accountable upto and including death
And use their pensions to pay off any awards. Our tax dollars shouldn’t pay out ANY MORE LAWSUITS. This is a cultural thing. They didn’t even care that they were in front of peoples homes! Imagine looking out your window. Dreadful!
Can you think of any negative ramifications of your idea? What career criminals might do knowing this and how cops might respond?
Obviously, this case is about a failure of leadership in the Memphis PD and that young man should still be alive today. Btw... These cops won't receive any immunity. The immunity they have is only in a life threatening situation which they clearly knew and that's why all five of them will be going to prison for a very long time..as they should. So, your suggestion is irrelevant. It wouldn't change the outcome one bit.
But, I'm still curious if you thought this trough any further. When police are in a life threatening situation, having to make a split second decision in a dark alley at night...what might happen?
@SABOtage Labs yes, I have thought very much about my idea. and I stand by it. I am not interested in the safety of cops. if they are confronted with a life threatening situation. they can deescalate. they can walk away. they can drive away. they can discreetly follow a "subject" (who has not been tried or convicted of any crime) and they can apprehend him walking out of a 7/11 When he is not expecting it. what my idea would do is take the "I'm the Authorit attitude out of every situation.
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY shields CORRUPT Fairy-tale Heroes in BLUE from Accountability and Liability distinguishing the POLICE as the #1 "Most Hated TAX Collecting TYRANTS" against "We the Good People" and humanity! (Money, Arrest, or Death?) MAD!
(Police = Violence, aggression, narcissism, alcoholism, and, if there is a God, suicide!)...
- QUALIFIED IMMUNITY "PERVERTS" HUMANITY AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL..
I’m actually surprised this didn’t happen in AZ, our cops are evil!
It has
They need to start interviewing previous suspects these dogs had interaction with
In the States, the problem is one of police
CULTURE, not police COLOR. This case highlights
that fact tragically..
Rest in peace 🙏
Well... Not only police culture. In any cultural issue like this, you can never resolve it or even making it better by changing one side of it. There are cultural issues on both sides of this. And, they can both be understood to a degree. I'm not accusing or excusing either side. It's a matter of human nature, psychology. This issue is so much deeper than... One side is broken... Fix it. It's that thinking that's got use here. it's also not going to be fixed by govt. Govt is a primary factor in why things are broken and even getting worse.
well said
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY shields CORRUPT Fairy-tale Heroes in BLUE from Accountability and Liability distinguishing the POLICE as the #1 "Most Hated TAX Collecting TYRANTS" against "We the Good People" and humanity! (Money, Arrest, or Death?) MAD!
(Police = Violence, aggression, narcissism, alcoholism, and, if there is a God, suicide!)...
- QUALIFIED IMMUNITY "PERVERTS" HUMANITY AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL...
Ver excellent segment. Thank you. Yes, anti Police Brutality not anti police.
Hundreds of police officers are caught yearly of rape/sex crimes, assault, domestic violence, murder, perjury, planting of drugs and evidence, etc...
Police think they have God-given authority over man is the work of Satan and narcissism, not of law, Romans 13, or of God!
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY PERVERTS HUMANITY and JUSTICE!
- Turtletruth (Semper Fidelis)...
Fire the Chief !! NOW. She belongs in Jail too !!
US Police, serving and protecting their fragile egos with all their strength and resources paid for by you and yours since 1844!
Well..no I gotta ask. Since 1844...the police have been evil and just bad. Let's say I accept that.
Ok, what do we replace them with? What's your solution? We know what you hate and see as the problem. What's the alternative?
I can't remember the last time I prayed for protection against the devil itself. But Godamit that I forget to pray against police encounters as I wake up to live everyday! I also never forget to tearfully hug my kids as they go out everyday into police-USA!
ABOLISH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY
That's a nonsensical position and you should probably read up on what their immunity is. They were never in a life threatening situation. That's exactly why the were not only fired but charged with murder. Obviously. So, even if qualified immunity was removed it wouldn't have mattered in this case.
Besides that. Have you ever considered the ramifications of removing qualified Immunity? I'm guessing no...since you don't understand what it means and covers. Guess that will have to be a rhetorical question.
What might policing be like if cops didn't have immunity if life threatening situations. I wonder? Seeing how murder in black community perpetrated by black boys and men is estimated to increase by 50% in the last year die mostly to politicians using this issue to keep people angry and scared so they can gain and maintain power...what could happen to crime stats when immunity is removed? Hmmm
@@Sabotage_Labs Qualified Immunity protects crooked cops! I would rather the corrupt cop personally pay for wrongs, rather than the state!
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY shields CORRUPT Fairy-tale Heroes in BLUE from Accountability and Liability distinguishing the POLICE as the #1 "Most Hated TAX Collecting TYRANTS" against "We the Good People" and humanity! (Money, Arrest, or Death?) MAD!
(Police = Violence, aggression, narcissism, alcoholism, and, if there is a God, suicide!)...
- QUALIFIED IMMUNITY "PERVERTS" HUMANITY AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL.
@@turtletruth QI (only protects LEOs when it's determined someone rights we're violated. In this case it's not even going to come into question. The cops have been criminally charged and I have no doubt they will all go to prison. Maybe not all for murder 2 but all are going. As they should.
So...now lets say this kids the cops involved? What exactly are they going to get from a convict? With QI, what are they going to get from the city? Millions!!!
Another issue to consider. There was a city in California.... I wanna say Sacramento or San Jose, can't remember specifically. What I do remember is in the year after they introduce body cams for all cops and cams on the cruisers and funny thing happened? Complaints filed against cops for rights violations to violence dropped by 80% in one year. The remaining 20% we're proven to be false claims and never even made it to discovery in a suit. Get rid of QI and you will effectively end policing. End policing and you have the law of the jungle. The strong devouring the weak. Besides that... How much money do you think cops make? Most are like any other middle class people living paycheck to paycheck like 68% of families in this county because our political leaders care more about power and keeping is angry and divided so they can maintain power.
What happened in Memphis was a psychological display of human nature. Cops that one, seem like they never should have been on the job but... Have been broken by seeing murder, violence, child abuse and the fact that 90% of the people they encounter hate them and lie to them. This kid that was killed...idk...I'm waiting for more info but in many other cases. .. There is this culture of resisting anything a cop says or does can be ignored and then people act surprised when things don't deescalate. I've been in 2 felon stops and had two detectives detain me on the street. Was a simple process? I kept my mouth shut. Listen and complied with instructions and it was all peacefully over in a few mins. How many of these cases would have different results if people only honored the agreement we have in this country. Is the thought of a day or two in jail and and a day in court the end of the world? Is it worth your life to run from the cops no matter if your innocent.
I'd really love if there was a way to simulate what being a cop is so people like you could see how you would react in situations. Especially after say 5 years on the job. All these people airing their opinions like they have any clue of what they are talking about. You can't just say cops are bad and change needs to happen without while saying everyone in inner city violent areas are all angels and innocent or have some right to ignore police because of what happened 150+:years ago and was happening for all of human existence before that. Is still happening around the world today. That fixes NOTHING. It's just throwing kerosene on a blazing fire. You're only making worse suggesting something that won't only not fix the issues but make them worse. Try and consider that small percentage of any community, Regardless of ethnicity which has zero to do with anything...the maybe 10% of criminals that prey on the weak and innocent. The cops wouldn't need to be there or use violence if none is created by others! Root causes! Marcus Aurelius. In each issue, ask what is it's nature. Simplicity. ROOT CAUSES!
Maybe start with our politicans as every social issue can be traced right back to thier failures! Root causes!!!!
@@Sabotage_Labs Thank you for your input.
However, personally, I would rather see bad police officers personally liable, financially!
I would gladly sacrifice a state payout in favor of a personal suit against the individual officer! (That's where the suit properly belongs as the state was not at fault!)
Policing, with their union and qualified immunity, has created the most dangerous gang in this country! Phoenix area being one of the worst!
Make their families watch and see what their husband or son is about.
There were senior officers including top fire officers,but there are other justice aticw on n this world
Larry Elder said where is the Sargent ? Why did he run ? The kid didn’t Obey !
Did you see the way the cop dragged him out of the car and just started yelling and attacking him. He ran because he was scared. Even if he ran that does not mean the cops get to beat him to death.
They all had bodycams and did not care, absolute animals
It would be interesting if we were all equal to the multi millionaire/billionaire club of philanthropist, paying little or no tax, but could donate money that personally serves our own interests. Would policing still exist?
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Discussion not helpful system great retreat that way but country fame more police brutality everywhere.
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