Yea my drum teacher also used to call them gallops. It was one of the first things he taught me after learning the basics; the difference between triplets and gallops. Drumming 101 imo.
@@bobbytoodle8912 Because it's very similar to the sound a horse's hooves makes when it is running. The term was being used in rock mags by the mid-1970s to describe the rhythm that bands like Nazareth and Deep Purple were using. This in turn influenced Steve Harris of Iron Maiden to incorporate a lot of it into their albums.
Imagine playing through the entire Master of Puppets song, vocals and all, then confidently pointing at the camera and saying "that was One, by Metallica" Thats how that intro felt to me lol
@@MCLooyverse Here's another way to say it, if you're confused by the above description: 3 evenly spaced notes played within another note-length. Example: 3 notes played over the length of a quarter note.
@@jddrawz Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. I'm not sure how I missed that. Now I think that description is too specific though, with quarter-note triplets taking up *two* beats (in 4/4), instead of one, but still being triplets. Edit: Regarding your first response, my example would be three notes played inside the space of a dotted half. Unless you mean only notes with length that is an inverse power of 2 times the whole-note length, then my example would still fit your definition.
@@nmaikowski8013 But aren't triplets supposed to be equal weighting? Like sure, they are both 3 notes in the time of 2, but they're supposed to be of the same rhythmic timing.
Bruh what kinda numbucket thinks that's a triplet, obviously never learned how to count it like "blu-ber-ry" or "i-ci-cle", etc. How he didn't realize it was one E and, 2 E and, wow man he can't subdivide ffs
Oh my gosh, I try to tell people this who took previous lessons from other teachers or got misinformation all the time. I was just going over this literally yesterday with a student on how this is not a triplet. I will admit, I am still learning how to teach as its an ever learning experience, I am starting to realize how many people unfortunately get taught wrong. I had a drum student who was 12 and was taking lessons for 2 years from another school before they shut down. In an 8 week span of group classes which are only once a week we covered more than what he learned taking 1 hour every week. I had one student that came from another state and started band locally middle school. He was failing band(had been playing music 5 years already). He took 1 month with me and raised to a B by the end of the grade period. Now he is maintaining an A in band. Now I am not bragging about myself but it feels good when I see students get happy and pursue music. Now this kid is working on Jazz and Pop drumset as well as Xylophone. All the parents and students keep saying I am a great teacher. Truthfully I tell them, I try my best but I am still learning myself. I am by far not a know it all and I am not afraid to admit when an 8 year old girl can play Good Times Bad Times better than I can. So long story short, research before you teach and always be humble and connect with students.
I think the best one though was a student who played drums from 4 years and was in his teens, I said play 4 Quarter notes on the snare. He said "uhhhh what." I immediately knew I was in for a journey.
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 & 1e& 2e& 3e& 4 & 1e& 2e& 3e& 4 & 1e& 2e& 3e& 4 & .... THAT WAS A TRIPLET That video is so iconic. It has shaped my journey as a percussionist 😅
Haha yeah I realized that after I relistened after I posted this. It sounds like the first bar is in 4 and then the others are in 5 so I don’t think he even knew what meter he wanted to play in 🤷🏻♀️
No no no & no. He explains it perfectly. You can use 1e& 2e& if you want but in a 4/4 bar it would be 1e& 2e& 3e& 4e& AS LONG AS the notes are evenly spaced 3/2. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF TRIPLETS.The vocab I learned was 1 ah da 2 ah da because the longer vowel sounds help you visualize & thus physically draw out the space between the notes. Practicing with the click helps solidify the mental & muscle feeling of how to think about the notes & then play them. Also: Nowhere in this video does he play 5/4.
@@MarshallDavidson are you disagreeing with the content of this video? We’re talking about the guy in the first like 10 seconds. The example he uses starting at 0:05 shows him playing 3 sixteenths in a 5 beat pattern, which is where the 5/4 came from. I was counting the 16th he’s playing as “1e&” because he’s not playing triplets. And yes, I have a degree in percussion performance so I’m pretty sure I know how to subdivide triplets. 🤷🏻♀️
*watches music theory vid about something I don't know* : watch 2 mins and slacks off *watch vid about something I've fully understood for years* : is entertained and pays attention to full vid
I always call them by their unofficial but much easier to remember name "12th and 24th notes" We get this name from a game I play called StepMania which is all about rhythm
i've played drums for almost 10 years and i'm completely self taught so i have no goddamn clue about any of the theory or notes, no nothing. But somehow i feel more smort now, even tho i have 0 clue what the hell i even watched
Ha! This was one of the first real fights I got into with a guitarist in my first band. It’s not only the Herta. He kept insisting that 3/16th’s and a rest was a triplet. I demonstrated to him over and over and he didn’t get it. Well… We didn’t last too long in that band.
Funny thing though, that famous intro to Honor Thy Father is not actually triplets. :) The opening pattern is groups of six notes, but those notes are all at the same tempo as the 32nd note snare & kick rolls in the following bars of the song. You have to get five minutes into the song ("don't cross that crooked step") before you start hearing any triplets.
Thanks for clarifying this. For the longest I've been calling this "herta" a triplet. The first thing that comes to my mind is in Van Halen's "Jump" with the fill that comes in the 8th bar of the intro. I thought that was a triplet. But now that I'm listening to the song much more closely, I realize that Alex actually slid a couple of triplets in the song that are less obvious.
I saw the shirt in like a community tab before watching the video. I was expecting this to be some sort of meme but it's actually a genuine, clear and well constructed lessons with amazing examples. I am dumbfounded ahahahaha
In my experience; after teaching this thousands of times with the same problem. The issue is people struggle with hearing in three (most likely due to an over-consumption of popular genres of music). So they play a ghosted fourth beat not realizing they're subconsciously counting in four. The result is "one, two three, (WAIT), one, two three, (WAIT)."
Long time has passed I know, but try turning on a metronome and have them count out loud with it in different groupings. With little kids I tell them to count in a "robot" voice. Sometimes does the trick.
I didn't know they were called hertas. I knew them as gallops and reverse gallops. Gallop being 1 8th follow by two 16ths and the reverse gallop being two 16ths followed by an 8th.
I think the issue people have is that the notes are the same space apart when compared to each other, but when looking at how the notes fit in one beat they aren’t evenly spaced within the beat
My drum teacher made it easy for me by counting triplets at "One - a - let, Two - a - let, Three - a - let, Four - a - let". This concept translated to 16th note triplets and on and on. It allowed me to easily know the spacing difference between that and "One - e - and".
@@HiFisch94 - its funny because I have counted it that way as well. I found both pretty interchangeable. The one reason I stuck with "1 - a - let" was for when it got to 16th note triplets. But I think you are correct in that the "1 trip let" seems to make it a bit easier to transition to shuffles.
It's also notable that if you drop the middle note from "eighth note" triplets (German note-value names suck soz) you get a shuffle, while if you drop the middle note from that semiquaver ("sixteenth note", pfeh) gallop you get straight eighths.
Taking band in high school helps too lol. I’m a self taught player on drum set, but when it comes to the basics and all the math, high school band definitely helps.
Yep; as a horn player, the rhythms we encountered ran the gamut of all the basics. 8th, 16th, quarter-note triplets, 5/4, 6/8, some occasional odd time signatures, etc.
As a drummer I already knew these things (like the drum kick fill part) but I didn't know the names for them. In fact, I couldn't give it a name because it's so engraved in me a musician at this point.
Thank you sir! I am a beginner and I wasn't confused about triplets vs hertas I was more confused about how to count them and how to put them into rolls / fills. This video explained it perfectly for me, already able to rip some new grooves - thank you!! Subscribed.
I think the key piece of info that people often miss is that the notes in a triplet evenly divide the time into three. Yes, two sixteenths and an eighth is still three notes, but not all three of the notes take up the same amount of time.
Playing the eighth note triplet pattern,using one limb(foot,hand,voice) against the abbreviated herta with another limb in a polyrhythmic exercise,futher eccentuates the difference between the two rhythms..
One of my favorite exercises is going up and down different tuplets to a brisk bpm. Just because something is a group of three doesn't make it a triplet, kids and chodes. Learn those tuplets.
Yeah the rhythm scale is such a nice way to really learn different tuplets and how to get a feel for them. I like to grid it, doing 4 beats for each, then 2 sets of 2beats, then 4 sets of 1 beat each, it gets really helpful for a lot of interesting fills.
Thank you dude. I've been trying understand the difference between eight note triplets and 16th note triplets. I thought I couldn't play 16th note triplets. Turns out I've been playing them the whole time
Your drum sound is better in this video than most bands achieve with studio time! I replayed you playing along to the metronome so many times. Love it.
Those "triplets" that the expert are calling them are mostly called gallops. Couple songs that have that is Barracuda by Heart and Knights of Cydonia by Muse. Want a song with a triplet feel, listen to Valentine by Xandria and My Fears Have Become Phobias by As Blood Runs Black
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Yeah the feels like the sounds of fast horses. I have the bass line (and rhytmic guitar also) of Run to the hills by Maiden that comes to my mind.
@@byteresistor Some people just play for fun. I've played for 10 years and I can play tons of songs that I love to listen to but my rudiments are trash for the most part because I don't have the commitment to learning them; it's not out of laziness, just the fact that I don't have intentions of playing in a band or for anyone other than myself and the drums are a huge stress relief for me, so when I play I just like to play music at this point (for the most part). What I've taught myself is enough for me to get enjoyment out of the drums, that's what playing music is about for some people. You come across as cocky instead of someone who understands not everyone goes through the same experiences in life; calling someone lazy for not knowing a rudiment makes you seem like a prick.
@@byteresistor Well if I knew you were joking I wouldn't have cared lol... It's not that important, there are just some dickheads on the internet so you never know. Just would have been shitty if you were being serious because there are so many musicians who love to play just to play, ya know? Anyway, no big deal. Happy new year.
Stopped listening to death metal 10 years ago for the most part, but triplet blastbeats still bring me such joy. Sounds so berzerk and yet chill at the same time. Excellent way to close out the video.
Back in the day I was jamming Long Way To Love by Brittany Fox with a guitarist. He used to call that pattern a triplet. I remember being really confused when he said that.
Just stumbled across this channel. I'm into it. Drummers have always been the unsung heroes of rock and metal. And synthetic beats are an affront to my understanding of what music is supposed to be.
Was definitely not aware that people didn't know this. Not sure why this was recommended to me but ok. I suppose the easiest way to explain it is that a triplet is three thirds of a note. That note can be any length I suppose but typically it would be a quarter note or smaller, else you might as well just change time signatures for a measure unless it doesn't make sense in the context or if it would mess with the accents. There's also quintuplets, septuplets, and all other prime-uplets but their use is less common, perhaps due mainly to the perception of timing something so precise.
Nah dude. A gallop is a dotted 8th note with the last of four 16th notes. So. Pretty much is just the first and last 16th notes of groups of four 16th notes. Was this confusing? 😂
Hey Samus! You saved my doubts I had for my whole life, bro! As a Guitarist, I always tried to understand 12/8 bars measures, in songs like Maiden's "Rime Of The Ancient Mariner" (At the Solo Part), or "The Duelists"... I also have a song called "Persona Non Grata", which I think I wrote in Triplets too!! Anyway, THANK YOU SO MUCH! WE ROCK! Mauro.
Lessons cost money, most people play as a hobby and live check to check. Teaching yourself is fine, even if you don't grasp every nuance of music theory
I worked in a Music Shop when Mike Portnoy's Liquid Drum Theater video came out...we had it on a loop EVERY DAY for almost a year. Then Mike came to our store and did a Clinic Hearing those fills at 4:56 just sent my brain into a full-blown time warp and I almost checked my phone to make sure I wasn't late for work. Haha. I've been self-employed for 6 years and worked at that Music Shop in like 2000...kids, be careful with your Triplets. They're powerful AF.
This is applicable to all instruments, not just drums. All instruments use rhythm :) Example: The chugs at the beginning of “Raining Blood” by Slayer are hertas.
Note values are like the absolute basics of music. I'm so surprised that some drummers don't know this stuff. I guess those drummers didn't do the simple basic excersises of note values when they started and jumped straight into blast beats
Katy Leanne theyre gallops lol hertas are a group of 2 16ths & 2 8th notes, the gallop is the pattern at the very beginning of this video where it’s a group of 3 notes. The gallop riff can also be found in Barracuda, which is the Raining Blood pattern but slower 😂
i have seen this video show up in my feed for like 2 months and i thought "yeah, i know", but watching it was still worth it; you describe stuff in a really nice way :)
As a guitarist, we call those gallops normally. Didn’t know that many people got this wrong either.
As a bassist, I agree
Yea my drum teacher also used to call them gallops. It was one of the first things he taught me after learning the basics; the difference between triplets and gallops. Drumming 101 imo.
Lol
Why horse terms
@@bobbytoodle8912 Because it's very similar to the sound a horse's hooves makes when it is running.
The term was being used in rock mags by the mid-1970s to describe the rhythm that bands like Nazareth and Deep Purple were using. This in turn influenced Steve Harris of Iron Maiden to incorporate a lot of it into their albums.
Imagine playing through the entire Master of Puppets song, vocals and all, then confidently pointing at the camera and saying "that was One, by Metallica"
Thats how that intro felt to me lol
😂. Same vibes
"That was Where Eagles Dare, by Black Sabbath"
i’m dead 💀
playing through “ Parabola “ by TOOL and pointing at the camera and saying “ that was Lateralus “
Triplet: a set of 3 EVENLY spaced notes in a beat.
What about quarter, quarter, quarter, rest in 4/4? Evenly spaced, not triplets.
MCLooyverse how is it evenly spaced when there is LITERALLY a rest in your description.
@@MCLooyverse Here's another way to say it, if you're confused by the above description: 3 evenly spaced notes played within another note-length.
Example: 3 notes played over the length of a quarter note.
@@MCLooyverse My original description says "in a beat". You can't just take half my definition and forget about the rest of it.
@@jddrawz Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. I'm not sure how I missed that. Now I think that description is too specific though, with quarter-note triplets taking up *two* beats (in 4/4), instead of one, but still being triplets.
Edit: Regarding your first response, my example would be three notes played inside the space of a dotted half. Unless you mean only notes with length that is an inverse power of 2 times the whole-note length, then my example would still fit your definition.
I hit my drummer with this and he was hella salty lmao.
Truth hurts.
@@nmaikowski8013 But aren't triplets supposed to be equal weighting? Like sure, they are both 3 notes in the time of 2, but they're supposed to be of the same rhythmic timing.
@@Gleveniel agreed. It was supposed to weighs the same
@@nmaikowski8013
You are full of shit. It's literally not a triplet, it's two 16th notes and an 8th note you fucking imbecile.
Do a lot of drummers get formal training? Most trained musicians in any instrument learn this year 1, easy.
on second thought, i thought that dude played holy wars
I thought he played hardwired, then I thought he played Holy Wars
He looks like Jesus too
At first it was hardwired then it turned into holy wars
Almost
Al R same 😂😂
His precision astonishes me every time while being funny :D
Indeed! He drum good! Me drum....not so good 😁
Precision, yeah! Funny? Idk I get very annoyed watching his mannerisms
For some reason I can't stop watching then lol
When the guy said «that was a triplet » i was dead😂😂😂😂
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Bruh what kinda numbucket thinks that's a triplet, obviously never learned how to count it like "blu-ber-ry" or "i-ci-cle", etc. How he didn't realize it was one E and, 2 E and, wow man he can't subdivide ffs
Well in Bonanza you see three guys.
@@MaxRamos8 Ok ok, TO BE FAIR hertas sound very close to triplets
@@thesmilingvagrants Then you really need to listen very carefully again.
Remember guys, the fun way to count triplets is: Pam-el-a An-der-son
I just say FLORIDA
@@cobalt._.27 Now that's a tough trashy contest to judge haha
Holy shit that is good lol
You can't think of Pamela and count in three, she has only two :))
@@yrussq polyrhythms man, polyrhythms!
That Bonham triplet was tighter than my budget during COVID-19.
Tighter than Samus's cav...
you need a better government
Laszlo Zoltan definitely not disagreeing with your comment. However, I do feel very lucky to be in the US.
And here I am struggling to play that.
@@SlyHikari03 I haven't tried.
I mean look at him lol
3:57 = Anthrax - Bring the noise (Public Enemy) - Intro
4:14 = Every song on Death - Human ;)
Human is a little slower than that
@Louis Hendrich , you're so effing right!!! 🤘🏻
Nah leprosy
0:57 What my phone sees at 2am
more like the FBI
HAHAHAHAHA
Hafos we decided to let him go with a warning.
I've never encoutered someone who got this wrong. This is wild.
It usually comes from the self taught crowd, honestly
Having studied music for many many years, I still find it infuriating that there are "teachers" out there who teach these things incorrectly.
I never teach something unless I’m 100% sure about it. If I have a shred of doubt, I preface it with “I’m not sure, but...”
specially something this basic
@@katyungodly the dunning kruger effect is the issue here. people dont know that they dont know what they are doing.
Oh my gosh, I try to tell people this who took previous lessons from other teachers or got misinformation all the time. I was just going over this literally yesterday with a student on how this is not a triplet. I will admit, I am still learning how to teach as its an ever learning experience, I am starting to realize how many people unfortunately get taught wrong. I had a drum student who was 12 and was taking lessons for 2 years from another school before they shut down. In an 8 week span of group classes which are only once a week we covered more than what he learned taking 1 hour every week. I had one student that came from another state and started band locally middle school. He was failing band(had been playing music 5 years already). He took 1 month with me and raised to a B by the end of the grade period. Now he is maintaining an A in band. Now I am not bragging about myself but it feels good when I see students get happy and pursue music. Now this kid is working on Jazz and Pop drumset as well as Xylophone. All the parents and students keep saying I am a great teacher. Truthfully I tell them, I try my best but I am still learning myself. I am by far not a know it all and I am not afraid to admit when an 8 year old girl can play Good Times Bad Times better than I can. So long story short, research before you teach and always be humble and connect with students.
I think the best one though was a student who played drums from 4 years and was in his teens, I said play 4 Quarter notes on the snare. He said "uhhhh what." I immediately knew I was in for a journey.
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
....
THAT WAS A TRIPLET
That video is so iconic. It has shaped my journey as a percussionist 😅
He was actually playing a 5/4 beat. 1e& 2e& 3e& 4&a 5&. It hurt my ears.
Haha yeah I realized that after I relistened after I posted this. It sounds like the first bar is in 4 and then the others are in 5 so I don’t think he even knew what meter he wanted to play in 🤷🏻♀️
Or maybe just edited weird lol
No no no & no. He explains it perfectly.
You can use 1e& 2e& if you want but in a 4/4 bar it would be 1e& 2e& 3e& 4e& AS LONG AS the notes are evenly spaced 3/2. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF TRIPLETS.The vocab I learned was 1 ah da 2 ah da because the longer vowel sounds help you visualize & thus physically draw out the space between the notes. Practicing with the click helps solidify the mental & muscle feeling of how to think about the notes & then play them. Also: Nowhere in this video does he play 5/4.
@@MarshallDavidson are you disagreeing with the content of this video? We’re talking about the guy in the first like 10 seconds. The example he uses starting at 0:05 shows him playing 3 sixteenths in a 5 beat pattern, which is where the 5/4 came from. I was counting the 16th he’s playing as “1e&” because he’s not playing triplets. And yes, I have a degree in percussion performance so I’m pretty sure I know how to subdivide triplets. 🤷🏻♀️
*watches music theory vid about something I don't know* : watch 2 mins and slacks off
*watch vid about something I've fully understood for years* : is entertained and pays attention to full vid
I think you just described my life.
Sadly thats just how our brains are hard wired :(
@@MfingChristonya TO SELF DESTRUCT! aNd tHeN TrIpLeS sTaRt lmao 0:56
4:56 thought you were about to bust out the honour thy father intro there 😂
My first song I've ever listened to by them
the shirt is one of the most evil and active-passive-agressive things i've ever seen. 'cause it's true. it's great! 🤘😆
That shit is great!
I didn't know he's lefty
I love it considering that I've had this argument about triplets with a friend years ago.
I always call them by their unofficial but much easier to remember name "12th and 24th notes"
We get this name from a game I play called StepMania which is all about rhythm
3:57 god damn love how good some simple double bass can sound especially with a click going
He looks like Weird Al and that comforts me
Jacob Wuttke so true. Same mannerisms and facial expressions
was about to say the same. when the weird al take up drumming? he's not bad.
He looks like Weird Al and “confronts” me. Common mistake
Kinda looks like Weird Al crossed with Dave Grohl honestly
Ty
i've played drums for almost 10 years and i'm completely self taught so i have no goddamn clue about any of the theory or notes, no nothing. But somehow i feel more smort now, even tho i have 0 clue what the hell i even watched
You should look up polyrythms for some funsies then
There is no theory in drums. Only math.
@@That0neGuySaid 4over3 polyrythms are fun.
@@joetroutt7425 said no singer/guitarist
well if you're familiar with the term FPS, this is basically just that it's Notes Per Second. all music is really just NPS.
Please offer a "This is not a Triplett" shirt with "Ohh Yuur" on the back!
the first triplet blast beat I've heard is on a Dream Theater song
A nightmare to remember. :)
Trey Weddle damn straight brudda
@@herpderpinson6117 such an underrated album man. Out of all the Portnoy albums, it's the one I rarely hear people talking about.
Overrated
@@BeardManDrummer1999 I think it's their second best album after Images and Words.
Ha! This was one of the first real fights I got into with a guitarist in my first band. It’s not only the Herta. He kept insisting that 3/16th’s and a rest was a triplet. I demonstrated to him over and over and he didn’t get it. Well… We didn’t last too long in that band.
That boggles my mind. Ah, guitarists.
I feel better knowing this now.
when u play so sloppy ur triplets sound like gallops
Agree...in theory it's evident, but i get confused most of the time due to my shitty playing :-/
4:56 who else heard Honor thy Father going DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN dooloolooloodle DUN DUN DUN DUN
Funny thing though, that famous intro to Honor Thy Father is not actually triplets. :) The opening pattern is groups of six notes, but those notes are all at the same tempo as the 32nd note snare & kick rolls in the following bars of the song.
You have to get five minutes into the song ("don't cross that crooked step") before you start hearing any triplets.
@Sweet Jones III Uhhhh yea I did? You dummy
I did for the first second or two lol
100%. I was waiting for him to go into the hits for the guitar riff.
Thank you for the lesson. I am at the beginner level. Now I know the difference between quarter, eighth and sixteenth notes on the drums…
the quarantine look combined with your usual demeanor really makes you come across as insane, 'S GREAT
Y'cuda.
It's called hertas cuz your legs hurt from this!
I'll see myself out...
We gotta get a lock on that door. lol
I'll see you back in, It's so true!
Only if you're doing them on double bass drums.
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That tom-tom-kick thingy sounds so cool :D
Thanks for clarifying this. For the longest I've been calling this "herta" a triplet. The first thing that comes to my mind is in Van Halen's "Jump" with the fill that comes in the 8th bar of the intro. I thought that was a triplet. But now that I'm listening to the song much more closely, I realize that Alex actually slid a couple of triplets in the song that are less obvious.
thank you for saying it
too many "experts" refer to triplets in the wrong way
im lucky i had a band director who knwe the difference
knwe
@@Yinte_Klop_Blunt666 typo
I''m kind of freaking out over the idea that a band director might have a job and they may somehow not know the difference.
Man, the separation of the notes Bonham triplets is sooooo good. That's what I been working on lately, triplets using all my limbs
If John Bonham is still alive, he must be proud of you!
I saw the shirt in like a community tab before watching the video. I was expecting this to be some sort of meme but it's actually a genuine, clear and well constructed lessons with amazing examples. I am dumbfounded ahahahaha
In my experience; after teaching this thousands of times with the same problem. The issue is people struggle with hearing in three (most likely due to an over-consumption of popular genres of music). So they play a ghosted fourth beat not realizing they're subconsciously counting in four. The result is "one, two three, (WAIT), one, two three, (WAIT)."
Are you talking about actual triplets or hertas?
Long time has passed I know, but try turning on a metronome and have them count out loud with it in different groupings. With little kids I tell them to count in a "robot" voice. Sometimes does the trick.
4:43 BLEED GOES ON
I didn't know they were called hertas. I knew them as gallops and reverse gallops. Gallop being 1 8th follow by two 16ths and the reverse gallop being two 16ths followed by an 8th.
A herta is 2 sixteenths and 2 eighths. A gallop is 2 sixteenths and 1 eighth
Gallops = Iron Maiden
Reverse Gallops = Reign in Blood
that's all I know haha
@@higler. Raining blood not Reign in Blood
@@Justin-wu8gw haha oops I'm an idiot
@@higler. welp it can go with reign blood also
66Samus: Makes a triplet video with no TOOL
Me: *Wait, that’s illegal*
That was Greg Gall long time drummer of Six Feet Under at the beginning of the video.
shame on him
I really thought this was like, grade school music stuff.
It is, but many drummers are self taught and so don't know much theory to know the difference
It is, unless you're 40 years old and just learning. This is beginner-ish stuff.
It is.
@Luke Steiner Where are triplets in that song?
@@batmanthemightiestavenger9129 I’m a self taught drummer, and it’s very obvious that those are *not* triplets
Incredibly interesting and I think I need that shirt.
-typical bass player
Aaaaannnd ordered. 🤘
Accurate AF dude.
I think the issue people have is that the notes are the same space apart when compared to each other, but when looking at how the notes fit in one beat they aren’t evenly spaced within the beat
All this music theory herta my head.
Okay, I'll see myself out.
My drum teacher made it easy for me by counting triplets at "One - a - let, Two - a - let, Three - a - let, Four - a - let". This concept translated to 16th note triplets and on and on. It allowed me to easily know the spacing difference between that and "One - e - and".
I learned it as 1 trip let 2 trip let.. and later switched to 1 eh and 2 eh and.. because it also translates directly into a shuffle feeling 😄
cool ! I was wondering about that. thx
@@HiFisch94 - its funny because I have counted it that way as well. I found both pretty interchangeable. The one reason I stuck with "1 - a - let" was for when it got to 16th note triplets. But I think you are correct in that the "1 trip let" seems to make it a bit easier to transition to shuffles.
"Those were triplets."
Yeah, and my mom was a Stegosaurus
Damn, your mom is oooooold
THANK YOU!!! I've been in this argument so many times. Usually it's with people who are more experienced than me. I now have a reference to settle it.
0:00 That is not a triplet, that was a gallop
It's also notable that if you drop the middle note from "eighth note" triplets (German note-value names suck soz) you get a shuffle, while if you drop the middle note from that semiquaver ("sixteenth note", pfeh) gallop you get straight eighths.
Taking band in high school helps too lol. I’m a self taught player on drum set, but when it comes to the basics and all the math, high school band definitely helps.
Yep; as a horn player, the rhythms we encountered ran the gamut of all the basics. 8th, 16th, quarter-note triplets, 5/4, 6/8, some occasional odd time signatures, etc.
As a drummer I already knew these things (like the drum kick fill part) but I didn't know the names for them. In fact, I couldn't give it a name because it's so engraved in me a musician at this point.
Beginning of video: I have no idea what he is talking about
End of the video: nope. still no idea. but it was entertaining nonetheless!
that Bonham triplet amplifies everything so so much
1:05 I thought he was going to say "THOSE were triplets". Cause they sure sounded like triplets :)
hertas in 6/8 make my brain hurt significantly less, this made bleeds rhythm actually make sense to me and seem playable
Clip: "This is a triplet."
66Samus: *Wheeeeeeeze* "Ha ha heh heh! WRONG!"
Me: *SMASHES LIKE BUTTON*
not a triplet, but not a herta either
Thank you sir! I am a beginner and I wasn't confused about triplets vs hertas I was more confused about how to count them and how to put them into rolls / fills. This video explained it perfectly for me, already able to rip some new grooves - thank you!! Subscribed.
4:56 Those kicks sound like water sprinklers
I think the key piece of info that people often miss is that the notes in a triplet evenly divide the time into three. Yes, two sixteenths and an eighth is still three notes, but not all three of the notes take up the same amount of time.
3:10 I'M TWO QUARTERS AND A HEART DOWN
Playing the eighth note triplet pattern,using one limb(foot,hand,voice) against the abbreviated herta with another limb in a polyrhythmic exercise,futher eccentuates the difference between the two rhythms..
One of my favorite exercises is going up and down different tuplets to a brisk bpm. Just because something is a group of three doesn't make it a triplet, kids and chodes. Learn those tuplets.
I'm very well versed in triplets, but quintuplets are downright evil.
...And now I know why I should learn them :D
Yeah the rhythm scale is such a nice way to really learn different tuplets and how to get a feel for them. I like to grid it, doing 4 beats for each, then 2 sets of 2beats, then 4 sets of 1 beat each, it gets really helpful for a lot of interesting fills.
Thank you dude. I've been trying understand the difference between eight note triplets and 16th note triplets. I thought I couldn't play 16th note triplets. Turns out I've been playing them the whole time
I have been doing the triplets wrong.
I HAVE TO SINCOPATE THEM!
Your drum sound is better in this video than most bands achieve with studio time! I replayed you playing along to the metronome so many times. Love it.
Those "triplets" that the expert are calling them are mostly called gallops. Couple songs that have that is Barracuda by Heart and Knights of Cydonia by Muse.
Want a song with a triplet feel, listen to Valentine by Xandria and My Fears Have Become Phobias by As Blood Runs Black
Yeah the feels like the sounds of fast horses.
I have the bass line (and rhytmic guitar also) of Run to the hills by Maiden that comes to my mind.
Achilles last stand inspired Barracuda obviously.
Or any blues inspired song lol
Are you talking about shuffle (boogie)? These are actual triplets.
Lest we not forget Iron Maiden
Yupp, have had a lot of discussion about that with the guitarists. Also about triplets and doted eighth notes.
Gotta love this channel. Running the gamut from music theory nerdfest to fart metal. Love it.
theoryman1 imma be real. This is pretty basic stuff. not really a music theory nerd fest.
@@apothecurio For drummers it is. ;)
Dave Bass m8 as a life long drummer I learned the difference when I was in my elementary school band. Trust me this is basic stuff.
@@apothecurio well, I was exaggerating for comedic effect, but apparently that didn't work so, sorry?
I love the way you explained it @4:34
Oh yeah drop that knowledge on me daddy
This is indeed why doing orchestral percussion is so helpful
Love how I made Jon Bonham triplets even before knowing Jon Bonham, it’s just so natural
Butcher B no they don’t get that credit, I figured it out myself
Awesome lesson and a good video, thanks.
"A chode sandwich" LOL, my life is now complete
I can’t believe you made a 6+ minute video explaining something so simple
This is stuff you learn when you start playing guitar at like 13 years old.
And this is stuff you don't learn at any age if you're self taught. That is why there are youtube videos like this.
@@ivanooze1049 Sure, if you're lazy and never learn any music theory.
@@byteresistor Some people just play for fun. I've played for 10 years and I can play tons of songs that I love to listen to but my rudiments are trash for the most part because I don't have the commitment to learning them; it's not out of laziness, just the fact that I don't have intentions of playing in a band or for anyone other than myself and the drums are a huge stress relief for me, so when I play I just like to play music at this point (for the most part). What I've taught myself is enough for me to get enjoyment out of the drums, that's what playing music is about for some people. You come across as cocky instead of someone who understands not everyone goes through the same experiences in life; calling someone lazy for not knowing a rudiment makes you seem like a prick.
@@ivanooze1049 i was half joking, you took this way too seriously pal.
@@byteresistor Well if I knew you were joking I wouldn't have cared lol... It's not that important, there are just some dickheads on the internet so you never know. Just would have been shitty if you were being serious because there are so many musicians who love to play just to play, ya know? Anyway, no big deal. Happy new year.
Stopped listening to death metal 10 years ago for the most part, but triplet blastbeats still bring me such joy. Sounds so berzerk and yet chill at the same time. Excellent way to close out the video.
What’s up everyone this is yoooouuuur daily dose of 66samus
Back in the day I was jamming Long Way To Love by Brittany Fox with a guitarist. He used to call that pattern a triplet.
I remember being really confused when he said that.
Just shoving that knowledge all up in my cav
what a sentence...
Just stumbled across this channel. I'm into it. Drummers have always been the unsung heroes of rock and metal. And synthetic beats are an affront to my understanding of what music is supposed to be.
make shure you watch his live drum streams and friday night hangout.
As a guitarist who hasn't played for a while, I don't know what the hell I just watched
Was definitely not aware that people didn't know this. Not sure why this was recommended to me but ok. I suppose the easiest way to explain it is that a triplet is three thirds of a note. That note can be any length I suppose but typically it would be a quarter note or smaller, else you might as well just change time signatures for a measure unless it doesn't make sense in the context or if it would mess with the accents. There's also quintuplets, septuplets, and all other prime-uplets but their use is less common, perhaps due mainly to the perception of timing something so precise.
Isnt the beginning called gallops?
Nah dude. A gallop is a dotted 8th note with the last of four 16th notes.
So. Pretty much is just the first and last 16th notes of groups of four 16th notes.
Was this confusing? 😂
@@gaspar-animal-ribeiro5414 no that explained it thanks bro!
@@DbladeMedic great!
You're welcome!! 🤘🏼
@@gaspar-animal-ribeiro5414 🤘🤘🤘
@@gaspar-animal-ribeiro5414 isn't that just two notes? all the gallops i've heard were groups of three
You're insane (the complimentary kind)! I want to get my own place so I can set up my drumkit and get back into the basics.
Bleed intensifies
Hey Samus!
You saved my doubts I had for my whole life, bro!
As a Guitarist, I always tried to understand 12/8 bars measures, in songs like Maiden's "Rime Of The Ancient Mariner" (At the Solo Part), or "The Duelists"... I also have a song called "Persona Non Grata", which I think I wrote in Triplets too!!
Anyway, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
WE ROCK!
Mauro.
Are they called "hertas" because prolonged use hurts?
joel trampenau I’ve always thought they’re called hertas because it sounds like hrrrta when you play them fast
Stop
Yeah, I thought someone would beat me to that one... couple of minutes in and it hurt-as-fu**, and it still hertas the following mornin'. Well done!
“Herta” is just the drum-speak of the rhythm phoneticized into a word.
I used to play The Mob rules on drums and would stick a big fat Portney triplet right before the 2nd verse ..
The fact that this needs explained means TAKE LESSONS
Lessons cost money, most people play as a hobby and live check to check.
Teaching yourself is fine, even if you don't grasp every nuance of music theory
Or just buy like literally one little paperback on the basics of sheet music for drums
I worked in a Music Shop when Mike Portnoy's Liquid Drum Theater video came out...we had it on a loop EVERY DAY for almost a year. Then Mike came to our store and did a Clinic
Hearing those fills at 4:56 just sent my brain into a full-blown time warp and I almost checked my phone to make sure I wasn't late for work. Haha.
I've been self-employed for 6 years and worked at that Music Shop in like 2000...kids, be careful with your Triplets. They're powerful AF.
I don't even know how to play drums and even I know that intro was completely wrong! xD
This is applicable to all instruments, not just drums. All instruments use rhythm :)
Example: The chugs at the beginning of “Raining Blood” by Slayer are hertas.
Note values are like the absolute basics of music. I'm so surprised that some drummers don't know this stuff. I guess those drummers didn't do the simple basic excersises of note values when they started and jumped straight into blast beats
Katy Leanne theyre gallops lol hertas are a group of 2 16ths & 2 8th notes, the gallop is the pattern at the very beginning of this video where it’s a group of 3 notes. The gallop riff can also be found in Barracuda, which is the Raining Blood pattern but slower 😂
Aye AstraVex I love your Devin Townsend covers!
Other way to know this ones here is reverse gallop, you should practice those along with the regular gallops and syncopated rhythms
Maybe he meant to say "That was NOT a triplet" and simply forgot the NOT. What he played was a "gallop".
i have seen this video show up in my feed for like 2 months and i thought "yeah, i know", but watching it was still worth it; you describe stuff in a really nice way :)
I never knew they were called hertas. I always just called them 1e&'s.
The 1e& isn't a herta, it's the pattern of "1e& 2&a 3 &". Several 1e&'s in a row I'd call a reverse galop.
Thankyou! This was exactly what i needed to hear! Fixed something i didnt know was wrong :p
I’m a guitarist. Why am I watching this?
So you can write your drummer's parts and make him hate you
baker45 Same, but music theory extends to so many things regardless of instrument. It's all good knowledge to have.
Because those ARE NOT TRIPLETS! THAT COUNTS FOR YOU TOO!
It really helps if all members of the band (if you're in one) can speak the same language, musically.
John Tarpey true. I would love to make my own band and hopefully remember this video to tell “my future drummer”.
You have wide and short triplets and they are usually playing big part in ad-libitum play style in classical music.