Minecraft is MUCH BIGGER Than You Think

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @ZeppyTube
    @ZeppyTube  2 месяца назад +6

    ALRIGHT time to correct myself
    Y'all are getting mad about a few things so I'll be correcting those things in this comment
    1. Stacked books don't add more data
    This is half wrong and half right, yes you can't store "unique" info, but the point is how much info you can store not how much unique info
    2. "You should use NBT data"
    bro... that's creative only you can't do that in survival (tbf it would take you proby over a thousand years to place that many chests)
    3. 1028 bytes at 2:09 should be 1024
    This is my first actual mistake, on screen it says "1028", that was wrong, it's 1024, what I said was correct however the onscreen text was wrong, I should've fixed that, mb
    4. Kilobyte and kibibyte
    I never actually explained this in the video, the difference of 1024 bytes and 1000 bytes is that 1000 bytes is a kilobyte and 1024 bytes is a kibibyte, in the video I said 1024 bytes is a kilobyte but that's wrong, 1024 bytes is a kibibyte not kilobyte
    5. End and nether are smaller than the overworld
    This was another mistake on me, the end and nether are the same 60Mx60M size, but it's 256 blocks tall not 384, so it's actually much smaller than the overworld
    6. 20w14∞
    If I made a part 2, I'd proby base it around the 20w14∞ update, the april fools update that adds (according to the minecraft wiki) 2,147,483,645 dimensions, Idk how I forgot about this update when making this video honestly it would've been such a good ending
    So, much apologies if this confused y'all mega nerds I did make some mistakes but not anything major

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ZeppyTube NOOOOO it was funnier when you didn't respond to it

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +3

      @@ZeppyTube Also argument to number 1, to count as info stored, it must be unique info stored. Otherwise you're just adding redundancy.
      Yeah redundancy does technically store information but the problem here is if you want any error correction, which is the point of redundancy, the stacks can't do that function, you'd have to add your own CRC bits in the book stacks, effectively storing the information of one book.
      However you could argue that the amount of books in each stacks stores information and I would agree, but it would only be 27 x 16 more bits per chest.
      It could store 16 bits, or two bytes, per inventory slot.
      You could probably use this as CRC but an already getting ahead of myself, no one is gonna make a real file system out of this lol

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ZeppyTube Also as a part 2, I would be interested in how efficient storing stuff in a Minecraft world is. How much data is wasted on Minecraft shenanigans instead of my PRECIOUS data?

    • @ZeppyTube
      @ZeppyTube  2 месяца назад +2

      This is such a nerdy comment and I hate I understand all of it and completely get your point LOL
      I honestly don't care if it's unique or not, yes the whole point is having unique data but it's still data nonetheless, so I don't see it as too much of an issue

    • @tomikun8057
      @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ZeppyTube If you understood that then maybe you should've started from scratch instead of nabbing the numbers from other sources since you seem way more knowledeable than them

  • @FungIsSquish
    @FungIsSquish 2 месяца назад +31

    The stacked books don’t really store any unique info, the only extra data you get is the stack count, but you can give the book a title and an author for a little extra data...

    • @cee_yarr
      @cee_yarr 2 месяца назад +5

      You can also rename the chests, minecart chests, and shulker boxes.

    • @sergiodominguez8674
      @sergiodominguez8674 2 месяца назад +5

      The video is full of mistakes. In 2:50 he says that a chest is 1728 bits by counting that a stack is 64 bits, but in reality a stack can't store 64 bits, only 6 bits (log2(64)) + the info that you can get from the type of block. This also translates into the book part, because he is asuming that you can have a stack of 16 books where each book has different content.

    • @FungIsSquish
      @FungIsSquish 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cee_yarr and you can dye the shulkers ☝️

  • @edhyjoxenbyl1409
    @edhyjoxenbyl1409 2 месяца назад +11

    You can store utf-8 in books, so you can multiply every number by 4

  • @edhyjoxenbyl1409
    @edhyjoxenbyl1409 2 месяца назад +6

    They call it prefix, cause it actually prefix the unit word. "kilo-meter", "kilo-meter", "kilo-[unit]"

  • @mariamanouka6928
    @mariamanouka6928 2 месяца назад +13

    You forgot the infenet dimensions April fool's update

  • @MrTurtleWithTophat
    @MrTurtleWithTophat 2 месяца назад +4

    And just think about all the millions of peoples other minecraft worlds that can hold just as much data...

  • @pr0hobo
    @pr0hobo 2 месяца назад +2

    Stacking books or shulkers doesn’t give you new information so any time you stack items its not actually adding new data, and putting multiple minecart chests per block sounds cool until you consider entity cramming. If you really wanted to make the biggest data storage there are a few things to change: 1 you cant stack anything because stacking items requires them to have the same nbt data which means you cant have two different items stacked together like two books with different laters in them. 2 you should name each book to give it a few extra digits of data. 3 instead of just putting shulkers in chests, you can put actually copy a chests nbt data to put that chest in another chest and so on ten times recursively. 4 bundles could be ised to stack items with different nbt data so that could drastically increase storage in each layer. 5 now you can come back to minecarts, put the most recursively containing chest in bundles in the minecart chest 27 times to fill its inventory then copy the minecart chest 20 ish times per block to get to entity cramming. This assumes theres no hard cap in the form of an entire limit, which im not sure about, if there is then this wont work beyond adding just a few extra chests. Taking all these steps would change the calculations drastically meaning the final number is mostly very different than what you came to, id be very interested if you do a part two with these ideas.

  • @purpleamaru1500
    @purpleamaru1500 2 месяца назад +2

    so high quality for a smaller youtuber amazing job Zeppy

  • @tomikun8057
    @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +3

    Ok but where's the scicraft level redstone contraption to read and write these bytes and the 16bit CPU to process it, a GPU and 16MB of RAM to run DOOM in Alpine in Minecraft?
    Also the storage bus would be quite slow here. The higher storage capacity might not even be useable.
    This is actually a real computer problem, when you hear L1, L2, or L3 cache, that's essentially RAM inside the CPU that's super fast, because using the RAM you put in the motherboard is too slow.
    This feels stupid though so juat pull a Spu7nix and write a programming language to use a Minecraft world as a file system instead, things will definitely go well, trust me.
    Anyways mega nerd out, this was fun, sub

  • @Salvanim
    @Salvanim 2 месяца назад +2

    Don’t log out of that world, every chunk will revert. Also you would run out of unique books pretty fast

  • @Somepersonrblx
    @Somepersonrblx 2 месяца назад +1

    For reference, if 1 bit was 1 atom, the observable universe would still not be enough to hold 1 devabyte

    • @ZeppyTube
      @ZeppyTube  2 месяца назад +1

      I FRICKING LOVE THAT SO MUCH OMW

  • @matelsalvesdesousa3573
    @matelsalvesdesousa3573 2 месяца назад +1

    imagine the ammount of data if he used the nbt data of chests so a chest filled of chests times 60 filled with shulkers filled with books

  • @PCubiles
    @PCubiles 2 месяца назад +5

    1:03
    WAS THAT THE BITE OF INFORMATION!!!????

  • @1_sus_1
    @1_sus_1 2 месяца назад +1

    The nether and end is actually smaller than the overworld as they dont have negative y coordinates and their hight limit is 255 blocks instead of the 319 blocks in the overworld.

  • @tomikun8057
    @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +3

    2:10 ackshwually
    tl;dr it doesn't matter, the difference is insignificant anyway. All it does is confuse people.
    You're wrong. It's 1024 (i don't get if this was a bit or not, if it was I laughed but I got confused when I tried to read it again)
    Also 1000 and 1024 are both correct. They're just different ways of measurement.
    1000 Megabytes(MB) is 1 Gigabyte(GB)
    1024 Mebibytes(MiB) is 1 Gibibyte(GiB)
    This is also why hard drives show up as lower than their rated spec in windows.
    Windows uses gibibyte but calls it gigabyte. I don't know why, go ask microshit.
    Hard Drive manufacturers use gigabyte.

  • @JoepOtten
    @JoepOtten 2 месяца назад +1

    The nether and end have a lower build limit, and the dont have negative

  • @NoahR-j9k
    @NoahR-j9k Месяц назад +1

    Whoops, turned the world into a chunkban

  • @RaivisMM
    @RaivisMM 2 месяца назад +2

    16 book thing is wrong cause theres no point storing same information 16 times at best you can just get like extra bits from the amount of same book you have.
    so after that point all numbers need to be multiplied by16 to be more accurate

  • @creativeguy4898
    @creativeguy4898 2 месяца назад +4

    You forgot the nether, end, and april fools exploration update

    • @merwien
      @merwien 2 месяца назад +2

      He did the nether and end didn't u watch the whole video?

  • @hurtigbane
    @hurtigbane 2 месяца назад +1

    the biggist chunk ban

  • @tomikun8057
    @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +2

    4:35 Stacking them only works if the stack contains the exact same data. This wouldn't increase anything.
    I blame your sources tbh

  • @The_Zone_Productions
    @The_Zone_Productions 2 месяца назад +3

    Too… much… MATH
    You’re the next Mumbo Jumbo

  • @Doomedheart
    @Doomedheart 2 месяца назад +3

    but... cant you just place a shulker in a chest CTRL + MID CLICK and then put it in a shulker than CTRL + MID CLICK that shulker and put it in a new chest over and over?

    • @ZeppyTube
      @ZeppyTube  2 месяца назад +2

      Not in survival

  • @RAMDER007RED
    @RAMDER007RED 2 месяца назад +1

    everyone is talking about the bytes
    but nobody is talking about the editing

  • @SwagRum76_
    @SwagRum76_ 2 месяца назад +1

    Use Barrels for less lag

  • @jacpa2011
    @jacpa2011 2 месяца назад +8

    You are actually not doing "1000 bytes = 1 kilobyte" wrong, it is true, however, 1024 bytes IS 1 Kib (kibibyte)
    this is why when you buy hard drives that label themselves as "1 terabyte" are lower when you actually use them (931 "gigabytes")
    Because the computer is using binary.
    It goes from kibibyte to mebibyte to gebibyte to tebibyte.. etc.

    • @stinkytoby
      @stinkytoby 2 месяца назад +2

      -> the problem with size difference isn't "the computer is using binary" but "Windows refuses to use the standard definition of size"

    • @jacpa2011
      @jacpa2011 2 месяца назад +1

      @@stinkytoby ..probably because using binary is the most convenient

    • @stinkytoby
      @stinkytoby 2 месяца назад +2

      @@jacpa2011 no, you're already working with strings when you show the user, how you format it doesn't really change much.
      They really just don't care enough and keep using the outdated terminology because not enough people care

    • @jacpa2011
      @jacpa2011 2 месяца назад +1

      @@stinkytoby yeah peoole dont care much xd

  • @sebalby34
    @sebalby34 2 месяца назад +1

    how much data would your pc need to store this minecraft world

  • @gymmilaqueno2779
    @gymmilaqueno2779 2 месяца назад +1

    minecraft has 3 worlds in vanilla, but 1 update has almost infinite so infinite data if you want

  • @zacktidwell
    @zacktidwell Месяц назад +1

    Bro never knew there was so much to this game😂😂

  • @jafyyyt
    @jafyyyt 2 месяца назад +1

    nbt stacking.

  • @ZeppyTube
    @ZeppyTube  2 месяца назад +3

    Forgot to shoutout the current members so I'll do that now
    CURRENT MEMBERS:
    Big thanks to; @Twistee @ThatWannabeNerd @YourLocalAronist

    • @EtherealCereal5
      @EtherealCereal5 10 дней назад +1

      This comment was almost on the bottom of the comments smh (its fine tho. Just thought you might wanna know)

  • @BullerPerson
    @BullerPerson 2 месяца назад +1

    Imagine doing this in the portal april fools

  • @SwagRum76_
    @SwagRum76_ 2 месяца назад +1

    you forgot about the 20w14infinite dimensions :D

  • @DominusQuadra
    @DominusQuadra 2 месяца назад +1

    Now download the cubic chunks mod for infinite world height💀

    • @mkDaniel
      @mkDaniel 2 месяца назад +1

      Only 4 bn iirc (uInt32 max)

    • @OnlySkeep
      @OnlySkeep 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@mkDaniel"only"

  • @NicholasJDi
    @NicholasJDi 2 месяца назад +3

    Not to be rude but, Custom Dimensions.

  • @MrTiktok33
    @MrTiktok33 Месяц назад +1

    Legendary channel

  • @TheRealEasyEverything
    @TheRealEasyEverything 2 месяца назад +1

    Woah how did i find this vid god damnn

  • @Endergebnis_
    @Endergebnis_ 2 месяца назад +1

    you didn try to use dev tag you would get more in one chest try it out dev limite should be 127 so try it out

  • @landermortier2245
    @landermortier2245 2 месяца назад +1

    Add the nethe the end and the mod that makes build limit higher

    • @tonycrayford3893
      @tonycrayford3893 2 месяца назад +1

      If you're going the mods route just add shulkers in shulkers, reinforced chests/shulkers and a stack mod.

  • @noahwyatt9260
    @noahwyatt9260 2 месяца назад +1

    void of squares :)

  • @Bobby_Hio
    @Bobby_Hio 2 месяца назад +1

    um actually, its not 1000 bytes OR 1028 bytes, its 1024 since that's 2^10

  • @tomikun8057
    @tomikun8057 2 месяца назад +1

    One would like to know how much time was spent rendering in replaymod

    • @ZeppyTube
      @ZeppyTube  2 месяца назад +2

      only about 30 ish mins, it was more spent rendering the whole video

  • @fbfnysnshnsgnwgGD
    @fbfnysnshnsgnwgGD 14 дней назад +1

    i feel like you would get book banned

  • @evidence2839
    @evidence2839 2 месяца назад +1

    1024 bytes ≠ 1 kilobyte
    1024 bytes = 1 ki*bi*byte
    kibi = KIlo + BInary = 2¹⁰
    kibi mebi gibi tebi pebi etc.

  • @TheKnytemayor
    @TheKnytemayor 2 месяца назад +1

    16:33 What about every seed?

  • @CCXZZ
    @CCXZZ 2 месяца назад +1

    WHY NOT CRTL MIDDLE CLICK TO BE SMALLER

  • @abdulrahmanalturk7746
    @abdulrahmanalturk7746 Месяц назад +1

    so i can store inf data in 1 block?

  • @greatguyinskulk
    @greatguyinskulk 2 месяца назад +1

    Here before it blew up

  • @revanthememelord5544
    @revanthememelord5544 2 месяца назад +9

    fun fact, the first version of cave game took *6 minutes* to code

    • @realfrozenfantail
      @realfrozenfantail 2 месяца назад +2

      I thought it was 6 days? You probably cant write that much code in 6 minutes

    • @ekaeka-q8k
      @ekaeka-q8k 2 месяца назад +2

      It's 6 days 😡

  • @LightThingies
    @LightThingies 2 месяца назад +1

    your keyboard looks filthy

  • @snakegaming-ei1ki
    @snakegaming-ei1ki 2 месяца назад +1

    hi zeppy

  • @ArtificialDjDAGX
    @ArtificialDjDAGX 2 месяца назад +1

    You can compress the data even further, by having the minecraft instances stored in the books uncompress to minecraft worlds filled with chests filled with shulkers filled with books.

  • @SGM1066Official
    @SGM1066Official 2 месяца назад +1

    e

  • @Alex-or5wr
    @Alex-or5wr 2 месяца назад

    You forgor the end plus nether

    • @hazardssb2
      @hazardssb2 2 месяца назад +2

      U did not watch full vid

    • @Alex-or5wr
      @Alex-or5wr 2 месяца назад

      @@hazardssb2 i did

    • @Alex-or5wr
      @Alex-or5wr 2 месяца назад

      @@hazardssb2 probobly just missed it

    • @Alex-or5wr
      @Alex-or5wr 2 месяца назад

      @@hazardssb2 you only did overworld from what i remember

  • @BroskyCode
    @BroskyCode 2 месяца назад +1

    One character can use more than 8 bits when it's uses strange characters like: ᾠ

  • @JMPT
    @JMPT 2 месяца назад +1

    Very Nice
    💚⛏️🤎