Why Minecraft Players Built a Real Life Supercomputer
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
- What's the best way to find a cactus in Minecraft? If you answered "Build a supercomputer and check every single seed in existence on a supercomputer running a program that takes over 1 year to finish" then you'd be correct!
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Seed Cracking 101
3:33 - Seed Finding 101
5:10 - Tall Cacti
10:52 - The Search Begins
11:55 - VERY Tall Cacti
15:06 - The Supercomputer
21:02 - The Future
MUSIC (In order of appearance)
C418 - Chirp
C418 - Wait
C418 - Divide by Four Add Seven
HOME - The Moment Before
HOME - Hold
Home - 9
Foewi - Negative Gravity
DMDOKURO - Theme of the Sunken Sea
Home - Tides
BOINC PROJECTS (TO GIVE PROCESSING POWER!)
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EXTRA CREDITS / SOURCES
HyenaDae, CactusDuper, Matthew Bolan, KaptainWutax, Cortex, BoySanic, Dutchen18, Matt (2869), NeilSeed, Tomlacko, vcokltfre - Helping me research this video and for checking my script
NeilSeed - Providing much of the history of seed cracking through a video on his channel ( / @neilseed )
Boysanic - Didn't talk about his part too much in the video but he played a large part in modifying BOINC to work better with GPUs
Minecraft@Home Team - For doing these insane projec
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CORRECTION
I don't know how I missed this, but the naive approach definitely wouldn't require 200,000 seeds per second, I meant 200,000 seeds per day. Not really a big issue but a couple people pointed it out.
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Its really sad that computational power is being wasted fighting disease when it could be used to find a taller cactus
Truly a tragedy...
Such a waste so many computers yet we just wanma fiind cures and solve world hunger. While we cpuld potentialy have like a 52 block tall cactus
Its optional, cactus is the main quest
We promoted other BOINC projects, some of which, including the project that was looking to develop a vaccine saw a significant uptick in users
I mean, if you can make a supercomputer to find a cactus, surely that's enough to find a spiky virus, they look almost exactly the same! We just need to know the seed of this universe.
So y’all basically surpassed the strongest super computer in America just to find tall cactus in block game? Crazy
I had also some gpus running, mostly because i had them ( for an other Projekt) and also i was heating our house because our normal heatersystem was broken at the time. It was a lot of electrical power turned into heat (warm water)... All 5 gpus(4 are my ones and one i got from a friend) where watercooled and needet about 1.6kw of Power.
@Enderkruemel Same here! I contributed 4 Titan Xps and 2 Radeon VIIs to the project. Now the Radeons are running folding at home and the remaining Titan Xp is in my living room PC. I sold the other 3.
tall plant
good
*US government owned at the time, there were many far more powerful company owned ones in the United States at the time.
Crazy? i was crazy once
life goals:
1. find largest cactus in block game
2. solve world hunger
3. defeat cancer
youd find cancer before world hunger, random people cant cooperate, especially groups of people this massive. scientists can concentrate to make cancer
Second and third is optional
beat tetris
shockingly this video shows how to help with two of those
didnt ask kid
Fun fact: when the minecraft@home team was trying to find the seed for the minecraft skull painting, they were beaten by a single dude who found it first with his over optimized code.
OMG
I could do it
@@user-pp1if2wc6rdo it right now coward
@@user-pp1if2wc6rAlright go ahead
@@user-pp1if2wc6rthen do it
istg if the minecraft community found interstallar travel sufficiently humorous they could do it in a weekend
It should happen soon enough (still like 50+ years) too, Gregtech exists.
It’ll probably happen once someone finishes gregtech
Ferb, I know what we're doing today!
Yes we need this in the matter of a few decades we would have real life interstellar travel like realisticly speaking if everyone not just minecraft community worked together this would happen in a weekend
2b2t players : i recognize that grass pattern
What?
@@PeriwinkleaccountI think it’s a joke about how some 2b2t players know how to find certain places out of screenshot with like the grass in the game
2b2t players seeing one screen shot of a base: oh yeah I know where that is, let me just travel millions of millions of blocks just to grief it
cloud exist... time to raid base
It's over. Base is going to get destroyed
“Some call it a waste of time; others, an incredible waste of time.”
lmao. Might seem pointless but im p sure the responsible people learned a fck ton which is useful for their careers
@@slim5816 careers? is that like some sorta food?
Mathematicians wastes time on useless concepts all of the time. When “i” or √-1 was first introduced in 1545, everyone back then thought it was just a nice curiosity without any practical application or even straight up nonsense.
We know now that it’s one of the building blocks behind how the internet works (FFM) and the basis for quantum physics but back then it was considered practically useless by almost everyone
Give it a few centuries (or a few decades seeing how fast technology is advancing) and a use will come out of this outside of Minecraft
Edit: Actually considering the nature of the Information Age today there’s probably already 10 projects that uses the code of this to do other stuff
It's not a waste of time if it is of value to you
@@standard-carrier-wo-chanwise man right here
Cactus is not the only one to have beef with government💀
But it destroys ancient materials harder than diamond. It can destroy mustard men in the governments with ease
Beef has beef with the government too
cactus and folding@home is wayyy too far ahead of their time
🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡
@@killedbydead2953 and even netherite
Welcome to Minecraft, we got people who built a one to one replica of a city, someone who built a actual functioning Minecraft computer with the processing power of the computer memory cap that took people to the moon, and a bunch of people that made a collaborative effort and ended up with a central processing power that would place it at 33rd in the global supercomputer ranking, above America’s strongest supercomputer, just for the sole reason of finding cactus.
We're fun :D
and minecraft server owners who accidentally ddosed one of the biggest dns servers with the largest botnet ever (mirai) and caused netflix + tons of other services to shutdown globally. Amazons and Googles servers had to re route the traffic to them coz nobody else could endure it
Imo the most underrated story from the Minecraft community lmfao
@@slim5816 Dude omg any links to the story??
And a library with EVERY SINGLE book in a library, even banned books.
they surpassed the ps3 supercluster???
NASA: *spends billions of dollars on plans to get to the moon, but is still 2 years away from a manned lunar landing*
Minecraft community: "we want tall cactus, we will get tall cactus"
cactus
Cacti
large plant
They could do it in 1969 without supercomputers. Why can't they do it as well as that again? 😂
@@akbeats101 money and politics
"Sir, our intelligence has stated that one of our supercomputers at the Pentagon has been seized by unknown individuals and is currently in use!"
"What are they doing with it?"
"Uuh.... it appears... they are... ....playing Minecraft with it?"
**hacks speaker system** we want to borrow this for a bit because we want Tall cactus 🌵
the Minecraft community just needs to recruit rainbolt.
he has every pixel of every map ever made in every universe already memorised
Maybe if microsoft takes back c1418
"these animals kinda look like -473926595619273938395629"
@@cryptic8053 dont we all love c1418 (at least spell his name correctly lol)
@@cryptic8053he deserves to be free
This shows how much determination nerds have when they get fixated on something.
According to chaos theory and the general randomness of everything, the following has a chance of happening tomorrow:
1. You die
2. You know everything
3. You can teleport
4. You gain sudden understanding of Rimworld's favorite storyteller Randy Random and realize you are in the Matrix, except the AI overlords decided to run Rimworld on their computers and there was a bug that transferred your consciousness from the Matrix into Rimworld and you're about to be mauled by a bloodthirsty thrumbo
This is literally what is called Weaponized Autism and it strikes fear into the hearts of anybody it’s up against.
the power of autism
@@Wilter__ Some events can be disregarded as functionally impossible though. Things like waking up knowing everything, random teleportation or a woman being interested in me.
@@Wilter__ Did you know that according to the Wilhelm Hypothesis,
if "x" belongs to the set R (Real Number)
Then there exists an element "n" in the set R which will have a value exactly equal to that of "x".
It is yet to be proven mathematically.
its cactus time
are you sure its cactus time
how was this comment made before the video was released?
@@Artimis_the_bird.offical dont question the cactus
CACTUS TIME!!!
LOLL
youre saying that we invented a sci-fi supercomputer... just so we could find a giant ass cactus
Humanity has peaked.
what
"sci fi"
You're*
-Average theorist, thinking how Thomas Edison would react to a Modern Flatscreen TV.
-Minecraft theorist, wondering how 2000's Notch would react to his little block simulator leading to a Gov Rivaling Super Computer on the search for One Tall Spikey Boi.
Notch and Dinnerbone both spoke to us and helped each other & us find some details we needed for the Herobrine seed project, if memory serves.
@@chipwolf5325 I said 2000's Notch as in back before the game was even considered a game, obviously they could know about it right now cause they're still alive...
Well, even as awesome as this story and the minecraft community is, rivals a 20+year old gov supercomputer
Government with supercomputer: we use super computer for radar and other important stuff
Minecrafters with supercomputer: B I G C A C T U S
I took one look at the thumbnail and I was like "yeah that's normal".
It was simply to much comprehend so i looked at it and also considered it completely normal
Yeahhhh, at this point, Minecraft is a force of nature. I mean, just look at the Uncensored Library.😅
@@bugbyte8273 "Uncensored Library"?
@Valgween It's a map with a library containing numerous banned or censored books.
Haha.
HyenaDae / Hypps here, thanks for the recap video! We're all glad with the results and solving many of the lost seeds over those two years of work. There's still lots of cool things for individuals to find on their own, in both new and old minecraft versions. New challenges or speedruns brings new computations potentially needed.
I believe the tallest Non-Natural cactus was 24 tall, but *only* on a superflat with modified sand base layer pre-1.16 :)
there was a 25 on superflat that i showed off in the video but didnt label it as anything!
Mom can we have Minecraft?
No we have Minecraft@Home
👆 underrated comment 👆
0:19 the version in the top-left corner probably saved this hunt, imagine if the seed hunters had to track every version as well, cuz terrain generation changed quite a bit over the years
technically a 40 tall cactus is possible, since at an intersection of 4 chunks all of them can have conditions that would make all 10 of their cactus blocks to spawn in the exact same block, it is basically as likely as all energy in the universe accidentally funneling into a single point in space
YES I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE!
Possible but unlikely due to the seedspace. Not enough seeds since chances of 4x10 is extremely low
@@cactusduper as i said, this seed existing is about as likely as all the energy in the universe converging into a single point through pure random chance
Wait cactusduper?
But that's what the big bang was
imagine if before all this happened, someone just created a survival world with a 100 block tall cactus, making this redundant
???
@@udontseemeiseeuuseemeiseeu ???????????????????????
@@udontseemeiseeuuseemeiseeu they're saying it would be funny if they went through all this effort to create the supercomputer and then record was found by a random person on a random world.
@@RapTapTap69its like a team of scientist studying for years in predicting the possibility of hitting a casino jackpot 10 times consecutively in one try only to find one little blue boy doing it ten times and hitting it all purely by chance.
I just cactussed everywhere
huh
Do you perhaps get cactussy
Don't tell the government
@@cryptic8053too late, they where there when I catctussed
📸📸📸
So, in theory, the highest possible cactus in Minecraft would be a 120 block tall cactus located on the corner between 4 chunks, assuming that every single cactus in the chunk by sheer coincidence generates on the same block.
11:50 -> 12:00
Bro killed the horse..
One scene he is riding the horse, empty handed,
the next the horse is gone, and he is holding Leather(a drop from killing horses)
Bro why was that necessary..🤣🤣
lol
Because when women ride horses they get a euphoric feeling down there and im pretty sure hes jellous
You probably made the best thumbnail ever. It's legitimately so freaking hilarious out of context
Shout out to games that can do a lot more than what the developers thought it could. Got to be my favorite gender.
shoutout to the devs too, both Mojang devs and mod devs (+datapack and mapmakers too) really carry the game
genre
@saltedgods6960 *gender
@@saltedgods6960 Thats not a genre you dumb dumb
@@RokkTheRock mb
I wonder what the devs think when they see stuff like this
in some of the searches (especially background panoramas and pack.png) the devs actually attempted to help out, but couldn't remember what seeds were used
imagine if the cactus supercomputer gains sentience and becomes a sky net type ai that destroys humanity, and you have to explain to the surviving future generation how it all went wrong
We went from skyblock content, to complicated calculations they should have told us in school
new hellcastle and tyler vid dropped, day has been made
same here
i was a part of MC@H. i used to have a few laptops and a couple desktops running F@H full time, got in the top 2500ish (not sure on the specific number) of all folders’ total contributed computer power because i had my rigs on all the time. they werent anything special, just old machines that reached EOL and werent useful compared to modern machines for much more than writing essays. i remember seeing MC@H on a dropdown tab which featured relevent projects. it was only on the boinc client and i i only had a couple machines doing that one because i was splitting them between F@H and WCG (World Community Grid) so i put them on that too see what would happen. never knew what it was for, never knew what came out of it till now. great vid! proud to be a contributor :)
if someone does invent 4 chunk finding that would increase the record significantly. Based on what you told me, with only one chunk, the theoretical wr is 30. ut with two chunks next to each other, the next highest is 60, and of course with 4 chunks being next to each other, the highest possible cactus would be 120 blocks
it could but its unlikely to. Issue is the chances of getting a 3-4 chunk to generate >23 is super low
Was thinking the same. "Only" checking 2 neighboring seeds means missing out on a 4way corner cactus.
@@cactusduper the current record itself is unbelievably unlikely.
@@RapTapTap69 Not nearly as unlikely as getting a triple or quad to be taller, we did the math :)
@@cactusduper I was going to type out some long winded explanation about why I think it would probably improve and then I saw your name and realized you definitely know what you're talking about more than I do.
There's probably code reasons why it can't get anywhere near this, but very naively, theoretically, since each chunk can generate up to 10 cacti, and each cactus can be up to 3 blocks tall, and up to 4 chunks could bleed into each other, there could be a natural cactus somewhere out there in the Minecraft multiverse that's 120 blocks tall.
Even though that's probably way off, I am interested in what the current theoretical upper bound for Big Cactus is.
Theoretically, a Cactus could commit a Nomad and travel from a chunk to a different one due to terrain always cock-blocking it, adding to the cactus being potentially 255 tall
I don't think so, if that were the case then there'd always be an average of 10 cacti per chunk, but it seems like if the second attempt fails, it gives up.@@Therevengeforget
from what i understood from the code, each cactus also tries to generate 10 times before giving up, but it can choose air blocks to try to generate in because the code doesn't know what the terrain looks like until it checks if a block is valid for a cactus. I didn't illustrate that in my video for the sake of simplicity though so I can see the confusion
@@HellCastleYT So... assuming a cactus travels 3 blocks per fail, it can travel 2 blocks short of 2 entire chunks.
So, ignoring the trivialities of such as the seed existing, what is the hypothetical highest cactus that could ever generate? Can failures to generate cause cacti generation to navigate multiple chunks? Are there any structures that include cacti to potentially stack standard cacti generation on? Has cacti generation changed at all in different versions in a way that would make different heights possible? What about any April Fools update things like Snapshot Infinity?
its like theoretically possible that all 8 surrounding chunks could generate every cactus in the center of the 9th center chunk that the center chunk also generates to be really big and from a sand block at the bottom of a ravine at y=1 and create a sky limit cactus but the chances of that existing are so close to 0
@@HellCastleYT What you said : It's basically impossible
How my brain interpreted that information : ...so you're saying there's a chance?
@@HellCastleYT well, that's something for the supercomputer innit?
5:55 I've never seen anyone else that knew of C418's Album 148, and I could recognize Divide by Four Add Seven instantly lol
This brings me back to the time where I spawned in a world for my freinds and me to play and my freind and me found a 6 block tall cactus, we made a whole shrine around it until someone accidentally placed a block too close to it ;(
NOOOO NOT THE SIX BLOCK TALL CACTUS!!
Almost didn’t notice you were standing in the herobrine seed since the beginning
Damn that calamity music at the end. What a banger
ayy
Home - Tides
Somehow I was looking up heat death of the universe and went down a rabbit hole to find Isaac Asimov’s The Last Question and then a comic version someone named Ryul made (korean manhwa)
This just shows "A man with nothing to lose and everything to gain" Probably can do so much. In there case they had nothing to lose while such a massive name to gain and those guys did something said to be impossible :)
Great video! Thanks for covering some of our findings :D
Yo, it's them!
You guys are awesome!
This is probably on your channels top 3 best yt videos I've ever seen
Theoretically, if you would use a _Quantum Computer_ It would take you less than a femtosecond to find the exact same seed, coordinates, and facing direction.
🤓 *phemptosecond
(also it would definitely take magnitudes longer than a phemptosecond)
I have come to realise myself as a fool, for it is indeed spelt as "femtosecond". I shall forever be in shame of this event
@@skmgeek Well that would only be possible in a femtosecond if we have an extremely fast and power Quantum Computer. It will also be have to be directly connected to a huge source of power, like a power plant, to work in such speeds.
@@Idkwhattoputhere989 I doubt it will ever be possible to run hundreds of trillions of calculations in a femtosecond 🦜
@@Idkwhattoputhere989also assuming there are no errors
Love this vid! I participated in the network back then and had it running the entire day for it everyday 💀💀.
I used Boinc before tho so I was really happy to see it getting mainstream attention. Distributed computing has so much potential
Loved the video! I’m happy we could all work together to tell the story of Minecraft@Home. It was nice to see some familiar faces who hadn’t been around in some time due to your efforts :)
Minecraft is like the gaming equivalent to 4chan. Enough people with autism hyperfixated on the same thing are the most powerful thing in the world.
Who needs super computers to send rockets into space when you can find the biggest cactus ever.
19:34 man that’s what our math teacher expects us to do
if you could get it to spawn in the corner of four chucks would a 50+ cacti be possible
If it was on a corner of 4 chunks could a ~50 block cactus theoretically be possible?
yep, the only limitation to finding it is that it becomes exponentially harder to find it, two times over for the 2 new chunks
The fact i knew the herobrine picture instatly after alllllll these years is wild
This video is very well put together. Good job, very nice!
the gpu vs cpu issue here would have easily been solved by the architecture of the Cell processor, since it's built similarly: a single PPU and 8 SPUs that can all work in parallel. it's hard to program for. but the workload capacity is insane. i wish the architecture hadn't been abandoned.
what if there was a cactus that was made from the corner of 4 chunks instead of the edge of 2?
22:10 never mind…
I'm surprised this does not have more views yet. Simply amazing, you earned my sub
The fact that there’s an alternate reality somewhere where a world ending super AI that ended the world was born due to people finding a tall cactus is hilarious
Famous words
Large Plant
GOOD
-Matthew
I had no idea people do that and stuff like this is incredibly fascinating
I remember my first minecraft world
Unfortunately my computer broke and was unable to make a backup or even a screenshot but I do remember 4 distinct aspects of the world seed
-was created in 1.0 or 1.1 (before Jungles were added in 1.2)
-near spawn is a river
-one side of the river has a desert biome
-other side of the river is a forest biome with a cave that has two surface entrances either side
Unfortunately these unique aspects of terrain generation means that a similar type of generation is significantly rare
and to think i helped with one of the projects XD (don't remember if it was the cactus project, but i think it was) well donated gpu power at least.
My guy, this is truly an amazing video but... What's even more amazing it's the background music choice!
HOME music is unfathomably good.
And ending with Tides was just perfect
so... theoretically, the maximum height for a cactus is 120 blocks tall
Minecrafters making a whole supercomputer for a tall cactus
Wow the lengths people will go to for a cactus is crazy😅
I love this video! It has its own style and it’s relatively short for a video essay, and it’s very interesting and informative (zesty af)
4:55 - Well he's right after all, I must agree with him on that one. *_Large plant good_*
You know it's a good century when hellcastle uploads
iI remember finding minecraft@home after looking around for projects to run in BOINC and was surprised some team actually automated a Minecraft project to this extent and decided to run it for a few weeks just for lulz
awesome for mentioning cloud computing. hadnt thought of this option for my bachelor thesis on CFD. this video solved a big headache of mine. thank you
Btw congrats on 500th video!
Couldn't there theoretically be a way taller cactus generated by 4 adjacent chunks?
This topic is really interesting, and i really enjoyed the video. It is fascinating how people aqcuired that much computing power for just a game. You really went from skyblock to seed cracking & finding fast though 💀
I think now we need to band even more people together and find the perfect seed for speedrunning in Minecraft
thanks for playing terraria sunken sea music at the end
17:00
This defeated the 21 year old me with no skills close to anything they have.
Accourding to this, a 120 block tall cactus is possible theoretically if 4 groups of 10 3 block tall cactuses combined in one corner, but it would be near impossible.
4 chunk cactus finding could give us a height of 120, what an absolute monument.
Lol this is such a random topic but its so entertaining, we need more!
Ngl covid brought a lot of creativity and stuff to stuff and stuff and stuff
With 4 chunks it is technically possible to get a 60 block tall cactus. And with repetetevely failed spawn attemps that can be expanded to a theorethical 12 chunks, all trying 5 cacti, to get a 180 block tall cactus
Love your vids and love how youre expanding from skyblock
NIECH ZYJE POLSKA!!!!
How about the corner where 4 chunks meet? Is a 50 block cactus possible?
no
@@MrLychwhy not?
0:45 ah yes per second every second
4:12 this gave me a blast of nostalgia. I used to talk to all of them, I wonder where they are now. My old accounts have kinda been lost and yeah, wow. I remember everyone on that screen. the Cactus person gave a lot of computing power cuz they had access to some serious Nvidia GPU clusters or something haha. I remember well
Never knew about MC@H, wish I did so I could’ve contributed my homelab resources.
Interesting video thou, and a new sub has appeared!
so a legal botnet.. for cactus
Common Minecraft Community W🫡
I once got a seed
where a sunken ship was like close to a village
and there was a path going to it
making it look like it sunk at the village some how
assuming 4 chunk is the limit, your pushing this thing to insane heights.
the value would be upwards of the quintillions, maybe even sextillion or sept.
Luckily, with increases GPUs, and Quantum it might be possible.
i suspect when people can get their hands on any sort of Quantum computation, the cactuses will be solved fast.
new hellcastle n tylerrrr vid babes 😻
Maths go brrr
This was one of the m best videos I have seen in a while. It truly made my day!
Interestingly, Folding@Home wasn't the first time computing power was popularly crowd sourced. There was crowdsourced computing to interpret Large Hadron Collider datasets back when it was trying to find the Higgs boson.
Why am I on digital botany?
How are you top comment? You have 2 likes and the one below you has 3.9k likes?
3:13 I think you’re actually at the spot from the image but in a modern version of Minecraft am I right or not?
8:00 for those that wants to know more
the "seed" in this case, is the seed of java's Random Number Generator. Minecraft Java edition is... made in Java. and Java's RNG is actually a pseudo RNG, so it's not truly random, you can get back the same "random" numbers by setting the seed of the RNG, just like how you can get back the same world by setting the world seed.
I don't know much about seed cracking since I only do plugins which is net Minecraft server, and not mods or whatever, which would be net Minecraft world
fun fact at 2:23
cuzlocked used to make geometry dash hacks and put discord token loggers inside them back i think 5+ years ago at this point, i assume he's reformed but it was crazy being there from ground zero of dream's fame and recognizing someone from there
8 views. HellCastle really fell off :(
ong
Who would win?
Group of nerds trying to find a tall cactus in block game.
OR
The whole American government
(hint: it's nerds)