i had one like that in a 3 cyl diesel tractor engine. it took a sledge hammer to get the piston out. honed the cylinder. still pitted after hone. new piston and rings in 2004. 16 years later still running strong. i'm sure not so good on that cylinder but still. cheaper than replacing. iseki japanese engine. first engine i ever tore down, and it should have been bored out, but. repaired it for $200 and like i said, 16 years, still starts and does the job just fine.
What I like best about your videos is that you leave all the setbacks and human errors in there. They are a huge part of every job so it’s nice you don’t pretend that sh*t never happens. Power to you ✊
Matt, washing the pushrod in the coolant and then rinsing with diesel is a great way to wash parts to clean them. I really like your sense of humor. Your comical nature makes this a fun channel to watch.
@@bluegrallis Not sure of the exact number, but probably enough to wreck the heater core. Oh well. (Although during that quick shot of the core the nipples still looked straight.)
As a mechanic i agree engineer's always have yo put something in the path of the oil as it's being drained ford is notorious for The Tie Rods And Panhard Bar Locations in the path of oil I don't belive I have worked on a single vehicle in the last 40 plus years that hasn't been a mess to clean After a oil Drain event Lol 😂 Matt 13:00 @Diesel Creek
Matt your’re such a good watch. So many varied things. Pouring concrete foundation. Putting down roads. Pulling trees. Swapping engines. Nothing is out of bounds. It’s a pleasure following you. Your hard work shows. It’s no pipe dream. Keep it up man. You’re nailing it. And the editing is excellent too. I’m never tempted to skip ahead. And that’s the best...😀👍👍
Howdyyawl from the land down under. Bit of a dilemma. Taking donk from other truck, left with one with no engine. Toss a coin, have to make a call. Sometimes you hafta cut your losses. I feel your pain.😢😊😊
Thanks for another entertaining video, Matt. Back in the day, as the prices for video equipment started dropping to the level that the average person could afford it, the theory was that ordinary folks would start making videos that would rival those put out by the industry. You are proof that they are right. I know that it is a lot of work. Thanks for being willing to do that for us.
I honestly have never seen specs on the medium duty stuff, worked on lots of them but it was just put it to stock maintenance. I know on the pickup/car engines Ford played with the cam timing via different keyway locations in the crank gear, no idea if the medium dutys got the retarded cam timing too.
diesel conversion, remove plugs, install 14mm bolts, fill block with diesel fuel, done! One cheap tool you might find handy, USB cell phone mini camera, like a cheep boroscope on a 10-12' cable. That rust doesn't look bad, you could tap the piston down a bit more, scrape the rust and blow it out, remove the piston and ball hone it. Might need new rings but should be dandy. The 429 4V and and the 460 share the same lineage and should share the same bellhousing, the blocks may be a bit different whereas it runs side engine mounts instead of mounting on the snout. That buckled splash shield might have been from a crankcase vapor backfire. but that looks a lot more like something hit it.
I've watched a bunch of your videos, and would like to compliment your editing. You show and explain enough then fast forward. I appreciate you don't always try to "educate " us just narrate. I also like your music interludes . Beats the dead air on others.
Good content in your video Matt and I like the hands on showing off not only your way around an engine, but being a gas and not diesel engine you're a custom to working on. I look forward to your next episode and you and yours stay healthy and safe. Cheers from this old retired coot living in Tennessee. ❤️ 👍
Well the other side could be worse but I didn’t see the need to look any farther, maybe I will for giggles.... still might try knocking the piston down more with a sledge
@@DieselCreek Cold war Motors/straight 8 challenge: He used hydraulic oil w/ a mini pump to un-stick a piston that was much worse than yours. Also check out Ave on youtube for forklift and/or fork upgrades.
Thanks Matt for taking the time and trouble to share with us. So there was some iron underneath that pile of hoses. About messy, we have put crank bearings in a tractor in the middle of 1000 acres of plowed field. Central California watching
If you ever need to brake a seized engine again automatic transmission fluid works good for that. Also the best penetrating fluid is 50 50 atf and acetone
I would rebuild that engine Nice Old 429 Big Block that rust isnt the worst i have seen but not the best 460 Block Is the Same Matt Between Pickups and Medium Duty Trucks 27:10 @Diesel Creek
My grandfather always said that diesel is a great way to loosen up seized gas engines if you have lots of time. We had an engine that was solid, pulled the plugs out and drained the oil, filled the plug holes with diesel and checked on it every few days. A couple pints of diesel later and a bit of a breaker bar got it turning again. Wish it would have worked for you. We've only done it on 4 cyl engines or smaller
Great video! I have a '79 F600 dump sitting in my yard with a stuck 370. After dragging it here I managed to get it running for a minute then it seized. From what I understand from 2 months of research the 370 and 429 truck engines have a larger crank snout than the pickup engines. So I'm in the same boat you are, only I'm 60 and don't have a quarter of your energy! I'm looking for a running 370/429 too. Pretty sure it's the bottom end in mine. Great job!
Howdy Matt, the RUclips algorithm must be liking you. You popped up on my screen about a week ago and I've been binge watching when I get a chance. I enjoy the variety in your content and the humor in your approach to problem solving. Looking forward to see in what you get into next. Take care from central Pa.
We had a few of these truck with that same prob leaking water into it .. we pull the head clean everything up got a new set of rings for that one piston . put her back to gather an she ran like a champ
as you typed during the video; "a crane would real handy right now", you could disconnect the hydraulics from the truck and run it off the skiddy or tractor or something and the the crane would work to hep disassemble itself. 16:55, you need to frill a hole thru the end of a fork so that you can poke a long bolt thru it, and thru your chain, to keep it from sliding off the end. OK, you have the holes, but use a 3/8 bolt or so right thru the chain link.
"This rachet is on fire"... Thank you for reminding me about the realities of shade tree mechanic-ing. I get tempted to take on a project and forget sometimes.
Matt, you mentioned a bunch of new subscribers of late. In that case, it would appear that old boat anchor of a crane is already proving useful lifting your subscriber numbers.
I like your way of doing things. Very similar to how I approach my projects. Other channels with their very expensive garages and tools make good content, but they just make me feel bad. You're more relatable. I like that
Nothing like finishing an 8 hour shift at the Friers and coming to watch some automotive greatness. Edit: I know being a fry cook gets dirty, but you mechanic types take the cake. Also thanks for the Heart.
I am Brazilian may be too patriotic but I believe that the Ford diesel engine is almost indestructible! These engines run thousands of miles without fail.
I had an old 455 Olds engine locked up, heads off, one cylinder had water in it. dried it out, oiled, 24D, rust cutter, etc. took a torch and dried it out. poured in a can of coke, let it sit 30 minutes and it rolled over. ran good after that.
That cylinder doesn't look all that bad. Some of the cross hatching is still visible. If that's the only problem cylinder, you may still be able to free it up. Put an inch of your preferred penetrant in that cylinder, let it soak another day or three. Then put a bar across the flywheel/clutch assembly and see if it'll turn. You've got a lot more leverage back there than on the dampener bolt.
and a side note for perma low cost backwoods mechanic life hack. Bondo and Vinyl siding have the same properties. Got a 4 foot rust hole? fill with a patch of vinyl siding, add a bondo coat and you have a instant waterproof bond that when hardened looks fantastic and will last. Apply a good sand, paint and cant find it, its way lighter than just a bondo patch
Them Brazilian diesel's brand new from 1989-90 were some torquey babies with that cute diesel sound. We ran those in our Ford LTS-8000's setup as tri-axle dumps until Cummin's came out with the L10-300's which were put in the 90-91's, both paired with the Eaton 8LL transmissions. We also bought some Kenworth T800's with the Detroit Diesel S60 11.1L which I also liked. For that project boat you are working on there, I'd go with a Detroit Diesel Series 50 4-cylinder which were commonly found in city transit buses. If you found a citybus with that engine, take the 5-speed Allison automatic and rearend with it to put under that Ford F800 and you'd have a kuel ride. A gas engine option for that truck could also be the Ford 300-L6 as those are torquey as well.
I see your work attire looks a lot mine after a day of wrenching on old vehicles! If your going to do it you might as well get totally immersed in your project!
The commercial truck engine has a heavier crankshaft and thicker cylinder walls to handle pulling hard all the time. Excellent video keep up the great videos 👍👍👍👍
I love this channel! Matt’s sense of humor scratches right where I itch. All the projects are so interesting and I’m so impressed with the use of logic & deductive reasoning to figure things out! I’m making my way through every video. Thank you, Matt (and Meatball & Roscoe)!
I've been a subscriber for a while now and i enjoy your content ,,something new every week ,,,you were wondering about the differences between a 429 and a 460 ,, I don't think there is much of one , the 429 being an industrial engine i believe has a forged crankshaft and it might be thicker too ,,,thinking of a way to find a good used engine ,, an old school bus most of the F600 and 700 school buses from the 70s and 80s had a 429 in them i confess i don't know a lot about FORD engines ,, if that was a Chevrolet i could tell you anything about it you wanna know ,,ANY chevy engine would bolt to the transmission and work small block or big block cause GM only has 1 bell housing bolt pattern
Try putting some evaporust in that cylinder, that stuff works magic. I'm willing to bet that if you let it sit in there for a few days and clean up the mess it leaves behind the that engine would spin over.
Polish the crank...$100 Rod and main bearings...$125 Piston rings...$100 Gasket set...$150 Prices are all a guess but should be close. But for around $500 it could be a cheap budget rebuild and would work great around the farm for years
Alot easier to hone one cylinder then to source a motor. Your this far just go a little farther . The existing motor can run with little effort. stay with it.
Ya should put a trailer ball in the fork that stop the chain from popping off when pulling and returning moters but anyways great vid and I subed a couple weeks ago .so ya anyways godbless
You don't need heater hoses 🤣🤣🤣 I bought a $35 fiber optic camera attachment for my iPhone off of Amazon. The business end is only 5/16" in diameter, perfect to fit through a spark plug hole and have a look, you can even record with it. It's saved me a lot of time on various chores, engine inspection and weeding out rotten air tanks are two of my favorites.
Any automotive schools in the area you can hand it over to for them to do the rebuild on it for you? Sure you would need to pay for parts but that is cheaper then a newer engine.
Cold war Motors/straight 8 challenge: He used hydraulic oil w/ a mini pump to un-stick a piston that was much worse than yours. Also check out Ave on youtube for forklift and/or fork upgrades.
I love at 9:24 when you go back and forth with 4 different wrenches to get the correct size. The bane of my existence, I'm terrible at estimating sizes = many trips back and forth to the toolbox haha
The 370 was an unbored version of the 429, the 391 was an unbored version of the 460. The 429 intake would probably fit on either engine. Personal experience: Once these old engines seize, nothing short of oxy-acetelyne is loosening anything.
The medium duty truck 361/ 391 is an fe/ ft series engine used prior to 1978 . The 370 / 429 medium duty truck engines are 385 series as is 460 light duty .
yeah, a $10 camera to shove into the spark plug holes could have saved hours, because then you don't need to pull the engine apart to see the insides of the cilinders
429/460 is the same block. Same crank. Bore size is different. You can bore them out 60 over without worry. The later smog versions, 72 or 73 on up, had taller decks to lower the compression for emissions. Lot of guys will deck them to use earlier intakes. That is about the only thing you have to keep in mind when swapping parts, if you have a smog/no smog motor. (Smog motor is way more common and they stuck them in everything) Also, timing cover behind the water pump, no matter what year, will create a hole through the cover and it will leak inside on the timing chain. It's a common well know problem. If you get a new motor, just get a new timing cover and replace it. Summit has them. $100.00 or so. And check the snout on the crank. It's abnormally long, if it is banged around, they will break.
If it were mine, I would rebuild the engine and cut corners where possible. It will cost more to do it this way, but a boneyard engine introduces all kinds of unknowns that will take time to sort out. Time is money. The little things will eat you up on a boneyard engine including making all of the accessories fit. Take off the other head and remove the oil pan and do a good inspection. If the crank is good, you can very accurately estimate the cost to rebuild before you start. Hone out the bad cylinder and confirm with a micrometer you can get the rust and pitting out without exceeding bore specification. I believe the honing will go well. The rebuild would be very straight forward with no guessing about what you biting off. Engine re-assembly and engine re-installation will also very straightforward as you have every part you need to go back together (this is were the time savings start to factor in). My guess is $900 - $1200 will get you a running truck if you do the rebuild yourself. Reuse as many parts as possible. It does not need to be perfect.
Ford, Chrysler and GM all had the same SAE and metric bouillabaisse of bullshit in the mid to late 80s. Should have just stuck with SAE, metric is junk.
I can't believe that in less than 10 days I went from checking out an abandoned church to watching some guy pull a motor out of a crane truck. LOL Love your sense of humor.
An old timer friend of mine used to use to rebuild hot or miss engines. Most all were rusted tight. He modified a sparkplug and connected it to a grease gun, he would then fill with light oil/ diesel. Everything he got near that motor he would give it a couple of pumps. Before you know it he had the piston backed up. You could do the same to get engines unstuck.
I see many people use the oil filter wrench to put on the filter when that's totally the wrong way you tighten the filter by hand and use the wrench to take it off some filters it has written right on the side of the filter tighten the filter by hand but they still use the damn wrench to put it on. Once you add oil to the seal and turn it on by hand the thing won't come loose but I don't understand it but it gets annoying when you got to take it off and you damn near chisel the thing off because it's so tight.
The oil pan should interchange from The 429 to the 460. the mounting should be the same while the sump, and oil pick up may be different, so keep what you have so if you need to put the old oil pan on and the oil pick up. I put a caddy engine in a Chevy pick up needed to change the oil pan, and pick up tube, also had to use a main bearing bolt with a stud to hold the oil pick up tube , little things like that is why you need to keep what you have until you get finished Good luck
Put a Cat 3208 in there! These came with them back in the day! They did real good when turned to 210hp. Or just clean up the bores, new rings. Plane the heads. General rebuild would probably make a fairly good truck. You know all that though. Great videos!
Easiest way to determine engine displacement (370 or 429) would be bore diameter. 370 has a 4.05" bore and 429/460 have 4.35" bore. Distinguishing 429 vs 460 is just as easy. 429 has a very short 3.59" stroke as does the 370 engine. This is why the 429 is a badass racing engine. The 460 will have the 3.85" stroke for which the engine series is named after. It's interesting that 2 out 3 engines of the series have the smaller 3.59" stroke. That's Ford... If you have the 370 I'm gonna say that some of the parts are exclusive to that engine due to the narrow bore. The heads are particular with respect to the aforementioned.
Your channel is great.
I'm a retired fuel injection specialist from the Isle of Wight south coast of UK.
Keep up the interesting projects.
i had one like that in a 3 cyl diesel tractor engine. it took a sledge hammer to get the piston out. honed the cylinder. still pitted after hone. new piston and rings in 2004. 16 years later still running strong. i'm sure not so good on that cylinder but still. cheaper than replacing. iseki japanese engine. first engine i ever tore down, and it should have been bored out, but. repaired it for $200 and like i said, 16 years, still starts and does the job just fine.
What I like best about your videos is that you leave all the setbacks and human errors in there. They are a huge part of every job so it’s nice you don’t pretend that sh*t never happens. Power to you ✊
Matt, washing the pushrod in the coolant and then rinsing with diesel is a great way to wash parts to clean them. I really like your sense of humor. Your comical nature makes this a fun channel to watch.
"The time has come to test the tensile strength of everything I forgot to disconnect" ....... lol priceless!
I was just reading this as he was saying it. Perfect timing
It was great you don't need all the wires anyway.
I laughed at this and thought that comment he made described me so well lol
I'm wondering what the tensile strength of a couple heater hoses could be!
@@bluegrallis Not sure of the exact number, but probably enough to wreck the heater core. Oh well. (Although during that quick shot of the core the nipples still looked straight.)
As a mechanic i agree engineer's always have yo put something in the path of the oil as it's being drained ford is notorious for The Tie Rods And Panhard Bar Locations in the path of oil I don't belive I have worked on a single vehicle in the last 40 plus years that hasn't been a mess to clean After a oil Drain event Lol 😂 Matt 13:00 @Diesel Creek
Matt your’re such a good watch. So many varied things. Pouring concrete foundation. Putting down roads. Pulling trees. Swapping engines. Nothing is out of bounds. It’s a pleasure following you. Your hard work shows. It’s no pipe dream. Keep it up man. You’re nailing it. And the editing is excellent too. I’m never tempted to skip ahead. And that’s the best...😀👍👍
Thank you so much!!
@@DieselCreekthat Ford Crain truck sounds awesome with the gas engine 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Howdyyawl from the land down under. Bit of a dilemma. Taking donk from other truck, left with one with no engine. Toss a coin, have to make a call. Sometimes you hafta cut your losses. I feel your pain.😢😊😊
Time to test the tensile strength of everything i forgot to remove lol that's a quote for the ages 😂
:chefsKiss: on that turn of phrase
Sounds like something Derrick from VGG might say. I don't know....
Yep 👍 and the other guys have to get robux off and my love 😍 I have no way of the heck to get the car 🚙
Yes sir, that one made me laugh .
He's like a young AvE
Channel is growing because of the good content. Thanks Matt.
Engine was swapped they reused the intake and valley pan that's why the valley pan was damaged from previous thrown rod
i don't always comment on your channel, but i do give you a thumb up and a like . take care Matt.
Thanks for another entertaining video, Matt. Back in the day, as the prices for video equipment started dropping to the level that the average person could afford it, the theory was that ordinary folks would start making videos that would rival those put out by the industry. You are proof that they are right. I know that it is a lot of work. Thanks for being willing to do that for us.
😅
From the 460s I worked on, the block and the engine were the same regardless of vehicle. It was the same V8 in the F900, F350, E350 and super-duty RV.
The 370/429 in the medium duties has larger snout on the crank to handle running the air compressor.
@@82f100swb think you are correct Evan
It used to be somewhat common to turn them down to standard 429 size before aftermarket stuff became common as they are a forged crank
What about the camshafts, are they all the same??
I honestly have never seen specs on the medium duty stuff, worked on lots of them but it was just put it to stock maintenance. I know on the pickup/car engines Ford played with the cam timing via different keyway locations in the crank gear, no idea if the medium dutys got the retarded cam timing too.
RUclips algorithm brought me here when I ran out of Andrew Camarata videos to binge. I think I'm gonna like it here XD
Glad to have ya 🤟🏼🤟🏼
If you're crazy, don't forget to give Colin Furze a sub
Yeah, welcome ol' boy, welcome to the club.
Me too..
David Analyst Man with a death wish 😂😂
diesel conversion, remove plugs, install 14mm bolts, fill block with diesel fuel, done! One cheap tool you might find handy, USB cell phone mini camera, like a cheep boroscope on a 10-12' cable. That rust doesn't look bad, you could tap the piston down a bit more, scrape the rust and blow it out, remove the piston and ball hone it. Might need new rings but should be dandy. The 429 4V and and the 460 share the same lineage and should share the same bellhousing, the blocks may be a bit different whereas it runs side engine mounts instead of mounting on the snout. That buckled splash shield might have been from a crankcase vapor backfire. but that looks a lot more like something hit it.
I've watched a bunch of your videos, and would like to compliment your editing. You show and explain enough then fast forward. I appreciate you don't always try to "educate " us just narrate. I also like your music interludes . Beats the dead air on others.
Thank you!
I enjoyed watching the engine removal from the truck!
Well done, Matt!
The 429 is a well sought after motor on the racing circuit. Hard to find. Well worth fixing. Love your channel. Keep it up.
Not the truck version. It's useless to a car or pickup as it lacks any mounting points on the sides of the block
Good content in your video Matt and I like the hands on showing off not only your way around an engine, but being a gas and not diesel engine you're a custom to working on. I look forward to your next episode and you and yours stay healthy and safe. Cheers from this old retired coot living in Tennessee. ❤️ 👍
I was honestly expecting worse for how tight she was!
Well the other side could be worse but I didn’t see the need to look any farther, maybe I will for giggles.... still might try knocking the piston down more with a sledge
@@DieselCreek Cold war Motors/straight 8 challenge: He used hydraulic oil w/ a mini pump to un-stick a piston that was much worse than yours. Also check out Ave on youtube for forklift and/or fork upgrades.
@watchweswork he cuold have fitted a grease gun to the plugholes and unseized it 🤣 or 🤔
Another youtuber I watch watch wes work you and diesel creek are my fave's lol
Of course wes is here, I watch both of you guys! Now wheres mustie
Thanks Matt for taking the time and trouble to share with us.
So there was some iron underneath that pile of hoses.
About messy, we have put crank bearings in a tractor in the middle of 1000 acres of plowed field.
Central California watching
You need a crane? You should consider getting one on auction.
hey what you think he's working on.... A crane... You aint gone get one cheap unless it needs work.
@@Scrapy-ih7ob Yeah, I know! Just my attempt at dry humour.
Cruel but funny.
About $700 should do it
@@jimcub22 That's a kick in the balls but funny, DG has a sense of humour he will enjoy this ( and he did buy the crane)
Why does off road diesel look so refreshing.
Kool aid! Ohh yahhhhhh!!!!
If you ever need to brake a seized engine again automatic transmission fluid works good for that. Also the best penetrating fluid is 50 50 atf and acetone
Right: good sugg. same - my thought..
Only prob for me is old age - not long enough for this world. but that's OK. Will be young
and stronger in the next. Probably even much smarter!
no amount of ATF, MMO, etc. is going to deal with the rust he found!
@@DocNo27 Wrong! Are you a perfectionist? Reconditioning doesn't work that way; just
get things to work well, and be content.
lol 50 / 50 atf acetone sound like they best wat to get cancer too 😂
I would rebuild that engine Nice Old 429 Big Block that rust isnt the worst i have seen but not the best 460 Block Is the Same Matt Between Pickups and Medium Duty Trucks 27:10 @Diesel Creek
I first started your channel on when you bought this crane and found the engine locked up. Glad to see you're still working on it!
My grandfather always said that diesel is a great way to loosen up seized gas engines if you have lots of time. We had an engine that was solid, pulled the plugs out and drained the oil, filled the plug holes with diesel and checked on it every few days. A couple pints of diesel later and a bit of a breaker bar got it turning again.
Wish it would have worked for you. We've only done it on 4 cyl engines or smaller
Great video! I sure thought that chain was going to slip off the fork; glad it didn’t. Looking forward to crane project!
Great video! I have a '79 F600 dump sitting in my yard with a stuck 370. After dragging it here I managed to get it running for a minute then it seized. From what I understand from 2 months of research the 370 and 429 truck engines have a larger crank snout than the pickup engines. So I'm in the same boat you are, only I'm 60 and don't have a quarter of your energy! I'm looking for a running 370/429 too. Pretty sure it's the bottom end in mine. Great job!
Howdy Matt, the RUclips algorithm must be liking you. You popped up on my screen about a week ago and I've been binge watching when I get a chance. I enjoy the variety in your content and the humor in your approach to problem solving. Looking forward to see in what you get into next. Take care from central Pa.
Thanks! Glad to have ya!
I found this channel the other day, I like watching people fix stuff, so keep going Matt!
We had a few of these truck with that same prob leaking water into it .. we pull the head clean everything up got a new set of rings for that one piston . put her back to gather an she ran like a champ
I love your fluid catch pan it will keep the enviro mentalists happy
That was the only reason I put that in the video lol
Engines being pulled; engines being installed; too bad we don't have, oh, a....crane?
as you typed during the video; "a crane would real handy right now", you could disconnect the hydraulics from the truck and run it off the skiddy or tractor or something and the the crane would work to hep disassemble itself. 16:55, you need to frill a hole thru the end of a fork so that you can poke a long bolt thru it, and thru your chain, to keep it from sliding off the end. OK, you have the holes, but use a 3/8 bolt or so right thru the chain link.
"This rachet is on fire"... Thank you for reminding me about the realities of shade tree mechanic-ing. I get tempted to take on a project and forget sometimes.
Great Job Matt alway a joy to watch your vidieos
Matt, you mentioned a bunch of new subscribers of late. In that case, it would appear that old boat anchor of a crane is already proving useful lifting your subscriber numbers.
Haha that is true!!
That's the first video I saw, the algorithm suggested it, and here I am
JohnyComeLately glad to have ya!!
I like your way of doing things. Very similar to how I approach my projects. Other channels with their very expensive garages and tools make good content, but they just make me feel bad. You're more relatable. I like that
Nothing like finishing an 8 hour shift at the Friers and coming to watch some automotive greatness.
Edit: I know being a fry cook gets dirty, but you mechanic types take the cake. Also thanks for the Heart.
That reminds me so much of my father grate work
I am Brazilian may be too patriotic but I believe that the Ford diesel engine is almost indestructible! These engines run thousands of miles without fail.
Well I am German and "thousands of miles without fail" is nothing we would brag about ;)
@@headmaxify Good when it comes to trucks is something to celebrate regardless of nationality, these trucks work in difficult conditions
Found On Road Dead. F.O.R.D This truck lived up to its acronym.
You Brazilian hotrodders know how to get the most out of your locally used motors, like your Opala Six, etc
The 300 ford is also good.
I had an old 455 Olds engine locked up, heads off, one cylinder had water in it. dried it out, oiled, 24D, rust cutter, etc. took a torch and dried it out. poured in a can of coke, let it sit 30 minutes and it rolled over. ran good after that.
Red hot tools, mixed nuts, busted motor , some people have all the fun🤣 Still good progress today Matt👍
That cylinder doesn't look all that bad. Some of the cross hatching is still visible. If that's the only problem cylinder, you may still be able to free it up. Put an inch of your preferred penetrant in that cylinder, let it soak another day or three. Then put a bar across the flywheel/clutch assembly and see if it'll turn. You've got a lot more leverage back there than on the dampener bolt.
Farmers put a make shift gutter under the hoods to channel the water away from engine
and a side note for perma low cost backwoods mechanic life hack. Bondo and Vinyl siding have the same properties. Got a 4 foot rust hole? fill with a patch of vinyl siding, add a bondo coat and you have a instant waterproof bond that when hardened looks fantastic and will last. Apply a good sand, paint and cant find it, its way lighter than just a bondo patch
Don't you just love working by yourself . It makes the day just last soooo much longer
The only difference between a 429 & 460 was the stoke length. Both engines used the same 3.85" bore. (Hence the 385 Series name)
Them Brazilian diesel's brand new from 1989-90 were some torquey babies with that cute diesel sound. We ran those in our Ford LTS-8000's setup as tri-axle dumps until Cummin's came out with the L10-300's which were put in the 90-91's, both paired with the Eaton 8LL transmissions. We also bought some Kenworth T800's with the Detroit Diesel S60 11.1L which I also liked. For that project boat you are working on there, I'd go with a Detroit Diesel Series 50 4-cylinder which were commonly found in city transit buses. If you found a citybus with that engine, take the 5-speed Allison automatic and rearend with it to put under that Ford F800 and you'd have a kuel ride. A gas engine option for that truck could also be the Ford 300-L6 as those are torquey as well.
I see your work attire looks a lot mine after a day of wrenching on old vehicles!
If your going to do it you might as well get totally immersed in your project!
The commercial truck engine has a heavier crankshaft and thicker cylinder walls to handle pulling hard all the time. Excellent video keep up the great videos 👍👍👍👍
Every video makes this feel like the real life version of Snow Runner. Intro music and landscape included.
3208 Cat. Still a boat-ish anchor but... common and easy for parts. plus a nice kitty cat V8 sound.
just pull that one piston, hone the bore and slam it back together
Thought about it lol
Do it!
Can't hurt to try
It would also be the cheapest route.
And probably the best. You don’t know what your gonna get with a boneyard engine.
My vote is for hone and rings.
Yea but the crank had alot of water an crank bearings are gone or wont last a week. But me being me i would still do it
I love this channel! Matt’s sense of humor scratches right where I itch. All the projects are so interesting and I’m so impressed with the use of logic & deductive reasoning to figure things out! I’m making my way through every video. Thank you, Matt (and Meatball & Roscoe)!
In no particular order Mustie 1, Weston Champlin and Diesel Creek, who else subs.
don't forget Watch Wes Work!
And Andrew Camarata!
@@Netherlands031 oops, my mistake
@@bigpatrck2 will have to look at this , thanks for the comment
South Main Auto Repair is good too!
Aaaaah the youthful enthusiasm, nothing scares you off Matt, great work as usualy bud.
I've been a subscriber for a while now and i enjoy your content ,,something new every week ,,,you were wondering about the differences between a 429 and a 460 ,, I don't think there is much of one , the 429 being an industrial engine i believe has a forged crankshaft and it might be thicker too ,,,thinking of a way to find a good used engine ,, an old school bus most of the F600 and 700 school buses from the 70s and 80s had a 429 in them
i confess i don't know a lot about FORD engines ,, if that was a Chevrolet i could tell you anything about it you wanna know ,,ANY chevy engine would bolt to the transmission and work small block or big block cause GM only has 1 bell housing bolt pattern
Im from Australia and watch all your stuff keep it up mate doing good !!
Adrain Ward HOLDEN🤗 or Ford😩?
I like both !
Adrain Ward 😮Never heard a diplomatic reply to that question before 👍🇦🇺🍺
I really don't know where you get your energy from! but I wish I had some of what ever you take :)
Its called a wife.
@@raypinkerton7793 I have a wife and that makes me even more tired :)
@@Polecat54941 LOL!! I hear ya on that one.
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It’s called youth. :)
Junkin can be fun! PERSISTANCE is vital.
Try putting some evaporust in that cylinder, that stuff works magic. I'm willing to bet that if you let it sit in there for a few days and clean up the mess it leaves behind the that engine would spin over.
vinegar.....same!
Polish the crank...$100
Rod and main bearings...$125
Piston rings...$100
Gasket set...$150
Prices are all a guess but should be close. But for around $500 it could be a cheap budget rebuild and would work great around the farm for years
2 things after it's running and operational you should run it on at least one job. After that I'll buy it
Love the old American trucks, I am from England we have nothing this cool in my eyes.
Alot easier to hone one cylinder then to source a motor. Your this far just go a little farther . The existing motor can run with little effort. stay with it.
One thing for sure, you don't let go easily, and I like that.
Ya should put a trailer ball in the fork that stop the chain from popping off when pulling and returning moters but anyways great vid and I subed a couple weeks ago .so ya anyways godbless
Was going to suggest the same thing.
Or a c clamp
Or use a big clevis. You could then pass the chain through it.
@@wfravel18 C clamps have a habit of slipping off because of the tapper of the forks.
Moters I bet you learnt gud in skool dint ya.
You don't need heater hoses 🤣🤣🤣 I bought a $35 fiber optic camera attachment for my iPhone off of Amazon. The business end is only 5/16" in diameter, perfect to fit through a spark plug hole and have a look, you can even record with it. It's saved me a lot of time on various chores, engine inspection and weeding out rotten air tanks are two of my favorites.
Any automotive schools in the area you can hand it over to for them to do the rebuild on it for you? Sure you would need to pay for parts but that is cheaper then a newer engine.
Love the content. A pennsylvanian myself. No gear head, but burned metal for years. Keep the good content comming. 88g member, and a fan!
How many were waiting for the crash when he pulled th truck ahead?
Thanks for the video!
You could still see the cross hatch in that cylinder! Not worn too bad.
I’d keep the crane truck, that thing is a $ maker
Good job as always. Enjoyed. You will find a motor !!!
Cold war Motors/straight 8 challenge: He used hydraulic oil w/ a mini pump to un-stick a piston that was much worse than yours. Also check out Ave on youtube for forklift and/or fork upgrades.
I love at 9:24 when you go back and forth with 4 different wrenches to get the correct size. The bane of my existence, I'm terrible at estimating sizes = many trips back and forth to the toolbox haha
This POS is both metric and standard so you really are just guessing lol
The 370 was an unbored version of the 429, the 391 was an unbored version of the 460. The 429 intake would probably fit on either engine.
Personal experience: Once these old engines seize, nothing short of oxy-acetelyne is loosening anything.
The medium duty truck 361/ 391 is an fe/ ft series engine used prior to 1978 . The 370 / 429 medium duty truck engines are 385 series as is 460 light duty .
I believe the blocks are the same but a smaller bore. Crankshaft has a larger front snout for the big truck accessories.
Need an iPhone bore scope.
yeah, a $10 camera to shove into the spark plug holes could have saved hours, because then you don't need to pull the engine apart to see the insides of the cilinders
Engine had to come out anyway and made for a good video. He likes to keep it old school when ever possible I guess.
Full engine removal is funner ⭐⭐⭐
15:00 drill two holes in each fork in the tip and make some c shaped pins for them. Helps enormously to not drop stuff 😬
"A crane would be handy here." Uhhhh...
I just love old school trucks
It's too bad the crane wont run independent of the engine.
It will with it’s own fluid reservoir and engine…. A Wisconsin engine off and old Minneapolis Moline hay baler. Has electric starter.
429/460 is the same block. Same crank. Bore size is different. You can bore them out 60 over without worry. The later smog versions, 72 or 73 on up, had taller decks to lower the compression for emissions. Lot of guys will deck them to use earlier intakes. That is about the only thing you have to keep in mind when swapping parts, if you have a smog/no smog motor. (Smog motor is way more common and they stuck them in everything) Also, timing cover behind the water pump, no matter what year, will create a hole through the cover and it will leak inside on the timing chain. It's a common well know problem. If you get a new motor, just get a new timing cover and replace it. Summit has them. $100.00 or so. And check the snout on the crank. It's abnormally long, if it is banged around, they will break.
Me: no don’t My brain: *coments ls swap
8.1 L Chevy V8....
If it were mine, I would rebuild the engine and cut corners where possible. It will cost more to do it this way, but a boneyard engine introduces all kinds of unknowns that will take time to sort out. Time is money. The little things will eat you up on a boneyard engine including making all of the accessories fit. Take off the other head and remove the oil pan and do a good inspection. If the crank is good, you can very accurately estimate the cost to rebuild before you start. Hone out the bad cylinder and confirm with a micrometer you can get the rust and pitting out without exceeding bore specification. I believe the honing will go well. The rebuild would be very straight forward with no guessing about what you biting off. Engine re-assembly and engine re-installation will also very straightforward as you have every part you need to go back together (this is were the time savings start to factor in). My guess is $900 - $1200 will get you a running truck if you do the rebuild yourself. Reuse as many parts as possible. It does not need to be perfect.
Wait a minute...late '80s Fords are a discombobulated mess of standard and metric? That can't be right:)
And designed for the rain water to drain into the engine apparently :)
Polecat54941 i heard Tesla stole that patent for their trunks
@@Polecat54941 just like the mid 2000s cobalts has a window flaw, that caused water to drain right into the door and ruin the speakers.
@@syy8976 1970s Pinto has a gas tank flaw that caused fire to drain right into the passenger compartment and ruin the driver...
Ford, Chrysler and GM all had the same SAE and metric bouillabaisse of bullshit in the mid to late 80s. Should have just stuck with SAE, metric is junk.
I can't believe that in less than 10 days I went from checking out an abandoned church to watching some guy pull a motor out of a crane truck. LOL Love your sense of humor.
Don't put any of the pollution crap back on . It is all a scam anyway
bring on them truck revivals love them old trucks
Good on you for having a go at it
Love the video!
Exciting to see people enjoying what they love doing
An old timer friend of mine used to use to rebuild hot or miss engines. Most all were rusted tight. He modified a sparkplug and connected it to a grease gun, he would then fill with light oil/ diesel. Everything he got near that motor he would give it a couple of pumps. Before you know it he had the piston backed up. You could do the same to get engines unstuck.
I see many people use the oil filter wrench to put on the filter when that's totally the wrong way you tighten the filter by hand and use the wrench to take it off some filters it has written right on the side of the filter tighten the filter by hand but they still use the damn wrench to put it on. Once you add oil to the seal and turn it on by hand the thing won't come loose but I don't understand it but it gets annoying when you got to take it off and you damn near chisel the thing off because it's so tight.
10:40 very cool shots! 😻
The oil pan should interchange from The 429 to the 460.
the mounting should be the same while the sump, and oil pick up may be different, so keep what you have so if you need to put the old oil pan on and the oil pick up.
I put a caddy engine in a Chevy pick up needed to change the oil pan, and pick up tube, also had to use a main bearing bolt with a stud to hold the oil pick up tube , little things like that is why you need to keep what you have until you get finished
Good luck
Put a Cat 3208 in there! These came with them back in the day! They did real good when turned to 210hp.
Or just clean up the bores, new rings. Plane the heads. General rebuild would probably make a fairly good truck. You know all that though. Great videos!
Easiest way to determine engine displacement (370 or 429) would be bore diameter. 370 has a 4.05" bore and 429/460 have 4.35" bore. Distinguishing 429 vs 460 is just as easy. 429 has a very short 3.59" stroke as does the 370 engine. This is why the 429 is a badass racing engine. The 460 will have the 3.85" stroke for which the engine series is named after. It's interesting that 2 out 3 engines of the series have the smaller 3.59" stroke. That's Ford...
If you have the 370 I'm gonna say that some of the parts are exclusive to that engine due to the narrow bore. The heads are particular with respect to the aforementioned.