LG QNED Mini LED TV Review - LG's Best LED LCD Yet, But...
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- We review an LG QNED Mini LED TV, namely the QNED99 8K TV which is LG's best LED LCD television yet, but there are a few reasons why you shouldn't rush out to buy one.
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0:00 LG QNED99 has highest local dimming zone count!
0:40 Native contrast ratio & black level
1:27 Local dimming including zone count
5:33 Colour accuracy
6:29 Motion performance
8:21 Video processing
9:41 Screen uniformity
10:11 HDR peak brightness
11:24 Dolby Vision
12:34 Gaming including input lag
15:18 8K including RUclips 4320p
16:46 Design including four HDMI 2.1 ports
17:49 Summary
Our review sample is the 75-inch LG QNED99 with 8K resolution, model number LG 75QNED996PB with a recommended retail price of £6000.
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I was waiting so much for this review!!!
Always a pleasure to watch. Thank you. Now waiting for your review of the Philips TV Models with Mini Led. I really hope with an VA Panel they Kick asses
Yes, really curious to see how those Philips TVs with Mini Leds compare...
Great breakdown in detail, thanks
Thanks for the Tip about Auto Low Latency Mode Setting!
Hey Vincent! I hope you can do a review of the Philips OLED 806!! Love your video’s!!
“ 8k is as relevant as p in pneumonia.” 🤣🤣🤣
Wrong! I have this TV and I cannot believe and never imagined how Insanely Beautiful and Clearly Detailed the Upscaled Content looks on this 8K QNED!
That’s what they said about 4K not long ago
@@cmpmeridian1 Exactly how I feel!
@@DontBeAWhoreAnymoreJesusIsHere for how much
@@DontBeAWhoreAnymoreJesusIsHere I’ve seen 8k is looks like my 4k lol. 30 thousand dollars to artificially upscale my 4k to 8k ? No thanks.
oh my, Im early. Could you review the x90j and x95j? great review, as alway!!
The problem with LCD(IPS) panels from consumer display manufacturers, is that you have to sacrifice reference design over aesthetics. The closer the LED to the panel, blooming can overtake objects in a scene. So LG other option is to reduce the cluster size.
Please, consider reviewing more mid-tier 4K FALD LCD TVs.
I would love to see you do a review of a 2022 LG mini led tv. I just bought a qned85 mini led in 65" and it's really nice imo. Very good blacks with vibrant colors. I read somewhere where one reviewer thought it may have ADS panels but no idea if it's true. It does have great off angle views so still may be ips. Whatever the case.....I'm thrilled with the tv. Bought it from Amazon during an early black Friday sale for $1,197. A lot of tv at that price.
congratulations. how's the motion handling in games and movies ? any ghosting or judder or jittery motion?
God these naming schemes for different technologies is getting out of hand (especially when they all are LCD, excl. OLED).
The Problem is because Oled still has by far best picture quality other brands and even Lg want to let the average user suggest it is similar to Oled. So they call them Qned ,Qled etc...
Sony calls its microled crystal led. Samsung named their crappiest lcd tv's crystal uhd....
@@Zoranurai13 And before that, when OLEDs started gaining traction in the market, Samsung named their LED-backlit LCDs "LED TVs".
Is it just me, or Samsung has the most dishonest marketing when it comes to displays (see also: foldable "glass")
@@geiers6013 It worked for Samsung (IIRC they were the ones who started calling their LED-backlit LCDs "LED TVs", giving the consumer the impression that it was a new display technology). LG had to give a fancy name to their display technology or no one would buy it. Nobody knows what a Triluminos display is, but everyone has heard about "QLED" TVs.
It's the way marketing works, unfortunately.
@@Zoranurai13 sonys Crystal LED is a different tech.. Micro led. These qned, neoqled MINI leds are full array lcd tvs
Hi Vincent, Thank you for another great review. Please post the QN900A review soon.
Hi Vincent thank you for the wonderful information you give in this channel. I can not find which, IPS or VA, LCD panel is being use in the mini led ipad pro 12.9.''
Hi, with the recent released of microsoft flight simulator on xbox series X I was wondering if you will do a specific video to show what are the best settings to use (LG C1). Thanks in advance !
Also Vincent, have you heard of the new Vision V75 from Huawei? It's a MiniLED TV with supposedly 3000 nits peak brightness.
At the price level , I don’t see why I’ll go with QNED or Neo QLED over tcl’s new mini led - though I’m worried about reliability and longevity of tcl . I do like my current LG entry level lcd despite its flaws but it’s time for an upgrade . Feels like I’m limited to schooling between tcl’s c825 , LG G1 and Panasonic JZ1500/2000
How does this compare to the new 2021 Tcl 8k Mini led TVs? Vincent any reviews on those coming up?
Awesome Review!
Hi Vincent, does the 2021 75QNED99 have VRR. Im able to see the VRR information overlay, but still dont think the TV has VRR. Ive tried calling LG about it but they seem clueless. Ur help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Ramy
Where do i get these beautiful wallpapers 🐶 the 1st wallpaper looks insane
Hi Vincent, this mini LED TV is definitely not cheap. Is there any chance comparing this to a Hisense mini led TV? Apple to apple test?
Hello, I enjoy your reviews and how professionally you make them, watching your last video I want to know which TV I should buy next month considering my TV wall is 6 meter from my sofa back which means my head will be placed 5.3 -5.5 from the TV. Watching your TV comparisons videos I understand that the OLED is the better technology these days and I undecided if the G1 or the C1 {because I really want the 83” version cause it seats almost on all my tv wall and i think that t will be much more impressive that way (p.s, I prefer it to be wall mounted)} or the sony A90J, which one would you recommend me considering the fact that I like to see movies and play PS5 with my friends? ( I also have 2 nice speakers of klipsch heresy which should connect thru a receiver to my tv and make the audio experience on another level). Money between those is not a factor cause the next time I will change my TV is 6-8 years from now.
By the way this days my main TV is LG C7, and I don’t have problem waiting a year or so to wait for Sony to add VRR to its TV like the A90J or maybe I’m making mistake thinking like that and it won’t happen at all.
My Question !! How you get the little app bar on your c1 Video ???
Hi! Which LED tv is for you the best overall? Sony, Samsung mini led? Thanks
2:48 ROG Phone II, Cinematic. Yeah, that blooming translates really well and burns my eyes 😳
Is it the same for mini led TV 916
. Is the 916 an improved version
16:13 No RUclips video has ever looked this sharp on my 1080p HDR OLED phone. Even though that footage went through God knows how compression steps, the sharpness is insane!
1800 zones wasted on IPS. Damn
Yeah I don't know why LG is so stubborn when it comes to using IPS on it's LED TVs.
@@ntz752 viewing angle techniques have improved tremendously. Almost no one watches tv from such a sharp angle and ips, while keeping color, just becomes incredibly black from the side. Black smearing is no longer an issue in high quality va panels and native contrast>viewing angles any time of the day
Yup. 1800 zones vs OLED's 1:1 pixel level dimming aka 8,294,400 "dimming zones" is a huge JOKE. 😂😂😂
Hello,
Would you get a Sony KD85x85k over this? I'm deciding between LG 86Qned85uqa vs Sony KD85x85k
Thank you 🤝🙏
In your professional opinion c1 or qned99??? it will be for more gaming then movies, so I’m thinking maybe the c1
I just got my LG C1 55 and I couldn’t be happier. I will NEVER use a different technology in the foreseeable future. The blacks are amazing and colors are truly magnificent
and for example i can't / won't buy a OLED cause of the "brun-in" subject (use the TV as a third pc monitor among other things) :(
Color wise, I still think IPS is better than VA, VA are less lush and colder, sometimes have "plastic-feel" to it. OLED too. I guess better would be OLED+QD
Have you tested 21's Nanocell 8k TV or 4k?
Thanks for awesome reviews
Please review 2022 lg qned 55 inch 860 series ..thanks
hi right model to review is 2022 lg qned 86 series miniled tv - 55 inches ,please later do comparison against other miniled and oled tvs, regards ricky
@@rickstorm2167check the video of "stop the fomo"
activating 4:2:2 on xbox signal is in 8 or 10bits? in panel info puts 8 ...thanks!
I really am considering two LG TVs one of them is the C-series OLED tv 75in but I’m scared that for the price I’m paying it won’t last long because of burn in and this tv which says doesn’t suffer from permanent burn ins. Please help!
Waiting for the review of the Philips 806!
I'd like you to review the AORUS FV43U 43" QLED UHD 4K 3840 x 2160 144Hz 1ms monitor.
i just got the lg cx 77 inch. My first oled. i love it, looks so good
shoulda got the C1
@@Lstead15 the same tv with minor tweaks I have the 48” cx and it’s beautiful. I won’t upgrade for 4 years or so and by then hopefully there will be enough of a difference and also lowered prices for me to warrant the upgrade 👍🏻
Very good i bought a second lg cx 65inch 1259 euros a no brainer
last week for gaming for my son.
@@piensluc7444 I love it. If he's got a series x ori and the will of the wisps is a must. Cyberpunk blewy mind too. Also, gears 5
Congratulations, mate, it's fantastic, gigantic and perfect quality, perfect choice.
We need the review of the TCL C825 as there are some talks on reddit already claiming their C825 is exhibiting some blur / half resolution in 4K when connected to a 4K 120 capable source device. Any luck getting one in for review Vincent? The wait is killing us.
Currently no ETA.
Somehow I have to think about Sony in this regard.
@@hdtvtest Alright we'll continue to wait patiently for your review to enlighten us. If you don't mind, please do let us know the moment you've news that a C825 is on the way to your test lab so we can be at ease knowing the answers are arriving and it'll only be a few days wait left.
It looks like for 2021 the Philips Mini LED and TCL C825 are the only LCD options with Dolby Vision, Mini LED, VA Panel, and HDMI 2.1 gaming features, just that both of them carry Mediatek SOCs.. so we're pretty worried spending that kind of money on a product with half baked 4K 120 support.
@@geiers6013 Agreed, this issue is a chip design flaw in the Sony X900H. If this is present on the TCL C825 like what some of the owners are suspecting, than it is a massive disappointment after all the hype for it. Why can't companies just truthfully advertise the features if it works as intended or not?
If they can't support 4K 120 the legit way, they should have just leave this feature out entirely like what Xiao Mi has done for their Mi Q1 TV, though it has HDMI 2.1 ports and a 120hz panel they include a clear warning on all their advertisements that due to hardware limitations (they should be referring to the Mediatek SOC as well), the TV does not support 4K 120hz. I think Xiao Mi's approach is commendable.
@@damien8398 TVs are NO GOOD, worry if you want too, look somewhere else for a better product
Blooming and handling blacks are only a few problems with this TV. The frame on the larger 86 inch is so weak most of these get damaged during shipment or installation. I went through about 7 screens and finally gave up. Amazon dropped 2, Bestbuy delivered a bad one, 4 replacement screens later produced one that wasn't damaged in shipment. I may have the only undamaged unit in Socal. Even when undamaged their is an inconsistent fog on all of them when you try a white screen.
how about the Huawei V75 super mini Led TV？
I like when you say “Keep Watching!” before the intro.
You should say that in every video.
Also "Allow me to explain..."
what size is the TV? because mini-LED tv's have different amount of dimming zones depending on their size, if this tv really does have 1080 dimming zones that's significantly more than the samsung 65 inches 792 but if this model is 75" than that's not so impressive and less than half of samsungs QN900A's 2500 zones
Qn95a 0.05cd/m vs qned99 0.012cd/m both is black but which has the best black or inky
My LG CX is still a phenomenal display!
I would hope so, only replaced a few months ago!
In ten years it will be still phenomenal !
There is not THAT much room for optimization .
Perfect blacks can't get more black!
Still? You talk like the CX is a 8 year old TV!
It's crazy how people need to justify their purchases online
How well does it handle video games? I love oled but the whole potential burn in thing has always made me reluctant to buy
the 65 inch version of this thing seems like it would be a sick programming monitor.
Mmmm sweet sweet HDR content
I have this LG 65QNED996PB and this TV is much better than the test says.
however to appreciate it correctly you need a dp-ub820 and Configure it in Full RGB and 12 bit, so the management of the backlighting will be much better.
according to Blu-Ray UHD Spears & Munsil UHD HDR Benchmark, in Dynamic Range Low and in Demo Material, in:
Filmmaker Picture Mode I can set Screen Brightness to 57 in a completely dark room and 60 in a lit room.
with a very very rare Blooming.
Vivid image mode, you can set Screen Brightness to 57 in a room in complete darkness and 65 in a bright room, with very rare Blooming, on most scenes Contrast an Object on a black background in the overwhelming majority scenes there is no Blooming, and the one where there is it is very weak.
did Vincent review the QN900A which he keeps comparing this LG to ? i can't find that review. did he mean QN90A instead ?
nevermind LOL
Got my 55inch c1 and im suler pleased
Vincent will you getting your hands on a Sony Z9J master series anytime soon?
No.
15:04 who doesn‘t love IPS glow on their TV…
It’s not just IPS, the polarization coatings on LCD TVs with VA panels which are designed to improve off axis picture, also create glow. My Sony X95H has it. However I hate LCD off axis picture with out it.
@@Radarcb329
Yeah can imagine. I‘m on OLED for TVs since 2017 so I only know IPS glow on my 4K monitor and I had to try several panels till I got one that was somewhat bearable. But I prefer OLED by a lot and if the 32EP950 would‘ve been less expensive I would‘ve gotten that instead.
Vincent, philips oled 806 and pml9506, review, please, please.
Thank you so much for always being honest. This is why I honestly trust your opinion on TVs vs others in my Country which is USA. Most of the guys I watch like Stop The Fomo, B The Installer and Whisper Status 74 don't have the tech you have to do real testings but give decent opinions as a Consumer point of view. The only other youtube channel I trust is Rtings.
Ratings said the LG G1 is brighter than Sony A90J
@@mrwalker6026 yep and for less then the price of the Sony.
@@joseluisruiz3789 The funny thing is the older LG C9 even gets as bright as G1 and A90J without an Evo panel.. makes you wonder
@@joseluisruiz3789 TV marketing 101...next year's Qd oled and Micro LED'S will be the next proper upgrade
@@mrwalker6026 I noticed that because I have a 77" LG OLED C9 that I bought back in September 2019. I actually want to buy the 83" C1 and put it in my living room and then put the 77" C9 in my bedroom to replace my 2013 Sharp Aquos 60 tv lol! After getting my OLED I can't stand the blooming on my Old Sharp Aquos plus image 2 dead pixels on that TV 😅 it served me well though. The pixel thing barely happened last month.
Are you planning to review any of the 42k LG QNED?
Tbh i think id rather spend the money on an oled and just buy some blackout curtains lol
This reviews worse than a TCL TV would - LG should be kind of ashamed they let it out of the factory.
Did LG knee-cap itself to avoid cannibalizing its OLED line.
@@Aggrofool Yeah it's kinda crazy they are saying go out and buy a £1300-£1700 TV instead of this £6,000 TV as we gutted all the good features from this one.
Isn't there a new LCD technology better than VGA used in Computer monitors - why are they not using that for TV's anyway ?
What the heck were they thinking making TV's with some sort of Black Frame insertion and then remove all the options to control it ? Why remove the dark area controls that the OLEDS have when the large dimming array could do with similar fine tuning too.
I can see this TV being VERY heavily discounted - I hope they didn't over produce it as they may need to have a rethink - this TV is like the Nano 70 of modern TV's Missing features and barely better than adequate for a single use case (watching TV).
I mean seriously they have HDMI 2.1 & a proprietry in house chipset with all the features on it on last years LCD' and OLEDS and they release a new one and it looks like they spent all the processing on the dimming control (managed to mess that up anyway) and strip all the useful features out - and it's not like this is an introductory model this is the top spec one - it's really poor. It's like this is a training wheels TV where the try to learn how to control the dimming and see what they can remove without people noticing.
OH and I wish Vincent would talk about the features of the TV - such as picture in picture & split image when they have that - as that is so darn useful and no one hardly ever mentions it (it's something some Samsung's have) and no one ever mentions it and it's so darn useful.
Also some TV's have built in surround sound of sorts and you can add a sub woofer and rear speakers without a soundbar and that could save you £1000 and again no one ever mentions the TV can do that in reviews either a lot of the time. I would say how well something works with or doesn't work with surround sound out of the box is an important point - as not everyone is going to spend £3K on an amp and speakers if they only paid under $1,500 for the TV.
Personally I'd just like the rear channel as it's handy to have for movies and FPS games - yet it's rarely mentioned by anyone - Maybe if vincent has not sent all his review samples back it's something he could make a comparison video on. especially when the out of the box sound is very hit and miss on a lot of models this year.
@@90lancaster what is that LCD technology?
@@dylanpresidafonseca2545 I don't know nothing to different just a proprietary evolution of VA panels I think configured for faster refresh rates & very high colour volume, while not loosing viewing angle. Same sort of thing - just a bit nicer than TV's seem to get right now.
The word on the street is that a lot of computer monitors come 2022 will start to change over to OLED anyway - I guess it's just down to them wanting to progress the technology where as the TV makers seems to just want to make it mass producible and cheaper and don't care much about the quality. Perhaps that has something to do with the Monitor being a choice that is some what separate from the device played on it - unlike "Smart" TV's.
But I just think the higher base refresh rate of these monitors is something useful on TV's too. if for no other reason a refresh rate of 340hz gets rid of a lot of the issues with flicker when using BFI for a start.
Also it would be interesting to offer a higher refresh rate to PC Gamers who might think better than 120hz is nice to have too (in some situations).
This might be very popular in Japan for example where they are having a boom in PC gaming lately.
5:14 That’s her aura that we can see surrounding her. This TV is truly exceptional in showing even those things which are not visible to our naked eye. Fantastic work by LG electronics team
lol...i see what you did there.
how about pwm is it there? lg has only one ruler without pwm it is nano90
Is this a BGR IPS panel?
I found the QNED 90 to not perform very well when using accurate settings. As you saw as well using HDR tone mapping or Dolby Vision Cinema home does seem to make the TV more competitive. Most of the responses I get is more people seem to prefer those, and it seems LG is aware of this.
Most people will prefer brighter, inaccurate settings over an accurate picture... this doesn't make it correct since our goal is to strive for accuracy. LG hasn't purposely designed [Cinema Home] to be more competitive... it just so happens that a brighter, less accurate picture preset would steer the image away from low-light "trouble zone" due to IPS's shallower blacks.
I'm surprised how competitive the QNED 90 (4K) is compared to your latest video. If LG lowered the prices of their QNED ranges both 4K & 8K models and have consistent FW updates to iron out the issues addressed and it would be a decent buy. LG need to need to put more effort into their LED ranges like they certainly do with their OLEDs.
@@hdtvtest I agree. I was referring to the "home" naming being used to attract more home users, and defaulting to HDR tone mapping turned on in HDR and in DV "home" having a similar look with raised mid and low range.
@gunnyo50: As we explained at 20:15 in the video, why should LG make a better LED LCD which may cannibalise the sales of their OLEDs which have higher profit margins?
@@hdtvtest Ur argument kinda falls apart here. Why then is LG try to improve its LED lcd lineup with mini led higher number of local dimming zones and higher pricing.
My first Oled A80j 77inch will arrive next week. I'm been waiting for these TV and the X95j review for a while and just decided to try Oled this time. I'm coming from Samsung 55 inch LED TV which I have it for 11years.
I'll tell you the easiest way to ruin a TV is to compare side by side to the old one. I kept my 27" UK600 IPS monitor at my desk flanked by a C1 OLED, I actually preferred the tiny IPS in 80% of the content despite its pathetic blacks regardless of how far back I sat. OLED is unmatched for cinema viewing though.
what is the best 70+ inch tv under $2000
8k is total overkill, I have CX and honestly a lot of the time 1080p material still looks great on it even. yes 4k looks better, but not THAT much better. 8k would be even less.
What is name of the show at 8:48?
I was considering buying one of these later this year but was wondering myself about the IPS panel. Hopefully the Philips mini LED tv Will do better due to the fact it has a VA panel.
They are confirmed to have va and I think they could be really good. Maybe even compete with the qn90a.
I have this TV and I Promise you that this IPS Panel is Astonishingly Blacker and Brighter and More Emersive and just an overall more Beautiful Picture than the Samsung VA Panel QN90A 4K TV that I returned!
@@98Arvin Thank You ; )
As I’m probably going to wait until Black Friday deals are out I’ve got time to see how the Phillips performance against LG and hopefully Vincent will review the Philips TVs in the near future.
Hi Vincent, do you have plans to review the iPad Pro MiniLED display? I would like to hear what you think about the local dimming algorithm.
So this QNED 99 does not have VRR?
Is this something that is going to be included in firmware updates?
No. The QNED99 will not be getting VRR at all. LG has confirmed this. However, its younger sibling, the QNED90, does have VRR.
no.
Find out on the next episode of DRAGON BALL Z..... 🐉
muy buenos reviews, eso si, utilizando el traductor al español, para entenderte. Excelente.
I don't see how this TV even made it to market really, I mean the Hisense U8G is arguably a much better buy that also has hdmi 2.1 and all of the gaming features...but on a VA panel with better contrast and significantly cheaper.
Please note they U8G European Model is complete trash and not the same as the Superior USA model.
@@90lancaster Why they went IPS in Europe is beyond me...
How can you say this Panel is worse than VA? When did you see this TV in person? LOL Weird! I am an authority over your minute opinion about it as I owned and returned the QN90A VA Panel that was not as Contrasty as this TV witch has significantly more Dimming Zones and MiniLeds and LG's A9 Gen4 Processor chip. What chip does Samsung have?
@@DontBeAWhoreAnymoreJesusIsHere How? Really? Because it is measurably worse, as in, the measured contrast on this TV by any metric is worse than any modern VA panel TV, it's peak perceived contrast ratio is around 1500/1 compared to even low end VA panels having a measured 2500/1 contrast ratio. You can like it all you want, and can defend your purchase for w/e reason. I'm glad you are happy with your purchase, but for anyone else, there are arguably better options that are significantly cheaper.
@@matilija Because one person on youtube measeured it that is what it is? Is that what LG Promotes on their site for the 8K miniled? NO!
£6K I will pop out and buy 2 right now
Just let someone to design OLED TV with water cooled screen it is not so complicated to do that just think how 4mm sheet full of water can cool down the screen , of course 2-3 low speed fans will be needed
i think maybe in a couple years smaller size tv's with an ultra thin copper vapor chamber like in smartphones could be feasible but i don't even really think something so extreme is necessary, IGZO OLED can already reach high enough peak brightness combine with TADF emitter material and quantum dot color filter array, that should be enough to beat even the best LCD tv's out there
Would the Hisense we dual layers LCD be better then? I can't seems to find any review for it yet.
Not available in the UK.
Hisense Dual-Cell > Mini LED.
The only thing I don't like about my C9 and OLED in general is the emphasized stutter on slow panning scenes in 24fps. TruMotion set to User 3/3 helps, but it's still there. I keep my TVs for 10 or more years, and hopefully this is the last TV in my lifetime where motion is an issue.
It’s because the pixel response is so low. It’s 1ms. Led TVs have a much higher pixel response (20ms at times) that it produced a natural blur to 24fps movies on slow pans. It’s just how oleds are. I’ve had one for 6 years and would not want anything else, at least for now. It’s not really a stuttering you are seeing. You are seeing each individual frame because of the hold release style pixel response. Even my high end jvc projector can show this in slow moving pans. I don’t ever use any motion enhancing because that is not true to how the film was done. If you go to a movie theater and there is a slow pan it will show there as well. It’s just that most good photography directors don’t use those kind of shots because they know it doesn’t look pleasing and add a slight twist to the camera as it pans which can eliminate this issue.
It is tougher to get that smooth panning motion to work, because of the image retention that makes LCD panels, and OLED efficient.
Plasma has a fast intensity and decay curve without a black frame insertion, because the black is near instant after the frame is displayed, the pixel image is off by default.
With LCD, it’s on by default once the pixel is energised, but it can only ramp up and down to the intended brightness using quick refresh pulses to keep the image or discharge the image. Same with OLED, it needs time to reach the brightness and decay/return back to black to avoid heat retention causing subpixel decay/aging and fracturing.
It takes extra time for a single pixel to pulse to full white or decay to full black, which is long enough to be visible after the frame has completed, leaving a blurry or semi-lit pixel behind or an afterimage/ghost.
The trade off is typically brightness versus latency/speed, so you lose some brightness as the panel has to ramp down to black, then ramp back up to the proper colour, and it increases brightness slowly to avoid transition damage to the subpixel heating and/or cooling rapidly.
It’s why there’s 240Hz and 360Hz PC monitors for gaming, despite the games not being able to get higher than 120fps, because the faster refresh removes the retention of the previous pixel, allowing for a smoother transition and clear, unblurred motion, even at 30-60Hz, but also 100Hz to 120Hz where the game is operating at (also human vision…) sic. The problem is also very evident with corridors and doorways, that leaves a residual blur, or the edge of a mouse cursor which has a black border and white pixels inside.
So LCD/OLED has to fight the efficient image retention design when a black frame is inserted in order to replicate the older cathode ray / plasma screen that doesn’t retain the image.
it may require a OLED panel with 500Hz+ or1000Hz to generate a smooth 24/25fps because the (very) high internal frequency allows for a smooth or fast transition to black after the frame is displayed, and, the frame rate increase will “tap” or pulse the sub pixels to increase the intensity of brightness when it operates at that higher frequency, but also to allow the heat dissipation to operate faster.
This “lag” of white to black to white, or Grey to Grey, also affects QNED/QD and backlight systems because the backlight also needs time to drop back to black. The backlight update frequency can also determine if you see ghosting or motion blurring on QLED/QNED/MiniLED panels.
10 years with an oled? Good luck with that, my C9 had severe burn in after 2 years.
Me too. Especially with things like a flickering light from a fire reflecting on a wall, TV just doesn't know how to process it
@@tygobermind3640 I have over 5,100 hrs on my C9 with ASBL being off for all of it and my screen is perfect. I don't watch 24hr news or game, but it is our only TV in the house and gets used every single day.
so it would be wiser to go for the LG C1 at £3000 rather than this model?..
Please can you do jz2000 vs a90j I am stuck between these two tellies, thank you
Take G1 or A90j .. if you like Android and Only Playes on PS5 use the A90J because its has the best Picture Quality
@@NormandyN7 I think they use google tv now, I do not care about gaming picture 1st and gaming second in my opinion, I heard the jz2000 is the brightest oled though.
@@Noble3781 Says who? Vincent already stated that the Sony A90J is the most impactful HDR OLED TV so far.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Yeah if you watch his Jz2000 review which came out after, He says the JZ2000 is the brightest oled on a %10 windows and full field, That is why we need a comparison video
How would the QNED90 compare to this? Is it only the resolution that's the difference?
qned90 has a lot more gaming features, lower power consumption and better blooming control.
How would this tv fare as a computer monitor?
Instead of getting 2 (or even 3) 4k monitors. Need some proper real estate, Excel and browsers.
No gaming.
Right now me and my partner have a Dell U3223QE on our shared pc, which is awesome, but because of work i'm going to need a set up of my own with at least 2 monitors.
2x U3223QE = AU$2200 when this TV is on sale right now for AU$3200
He has missed the main problem of Samsung VA panels for 8k has weak contrast modulation effectively reducing the 8k effect. Oled cannot improve on brightness, sharpness/details and colour gamut offered from 8k nanocell. In addition the QNED 75 inch is much cheaper than the 77 inch 4K Oled.
Quantam dot oled
What’s the movie you keep showing with the floating balls of water and the ship?
Pan
Can you do a settings video on this tv for Xbox
Please start mentioning how much worse the LG Web OS is. It really should be considered when buying a new TV. The basic ESPN app and the basic Fox TV apps are not available on Web OS. There are lots of sporting events like top 20 college basketball games that might not appear on normal TV broadcasts in fall because they occur during college football Saturday, etc. That makes sense, but you need espn app if you want to watch them,. The Fox app also offers football games in 4k without upcharges that RUclipsTV wants, etc. This is why TVs with native android TV(like Sony)are superior for at least the OS and compatibility side. For LG you have to try to stream from your phone, and I think stuff like the OS should be mentioned.
For a bright living room would you recommend the QLED mini LEDs from Samsung over this? I know IPS biggest complaints are with dark rooms.
I do have a CX for my bedroom and I love it do death but my living room can get quite bright which has me hesitating on a OLED.
Anytime, QLED especially the latest nano series by Samsung.
Put your oled in your living room to see how it works when the room is lit up then go from there. And if the oled doesn't work the either qned or qled will work depending on the quality you want.
Neo Qled is really good. Only downside I had with it was a little bit of DSE. But black levels are very close to oled and with the settings you can find a decent balance between shadow detail / blooming. Also nice to never have to worry again about burn in.
I’m in a similar position and I’m thinking of taking the risking and going with tcl . My room might be bright but it might be able to handle oled so I’m still considering that too
@@chanh9220 Or wait on Philips 9506.
Vincent When the lg oled 42" or smaler will come out ? I play fps games i cant play on 48" its very big for me.
Are you alright Vincent? Your voice over sounded particularly low energy, like you're tired or depressed.
Can't wait for 8k to take over
The first LCD TV that doesn't suck.
How does it compare to the QN95A?
The QN95A is superior due to VA panel.
Them Zones!!!!
Very weak number of zones. 😂😂😂
I was interested in this new LG technology, the MiniLED reviews sounded good but at the current price point it doesn't make any sense to change my current nanocell, its not an OLED and that sucks but I got used to the gray-ish black areas and just plain turn off local dimming.
I’m so glad I bought the LG OLED C1 65 inch 🥳
Samsung QD Oleds and Micro LED'S will be the next true upgrade
No thanks, I watch a lot regular TV and that means I'd get burn-in pretty much guaranteed.
@@vladdx My C9 had burn in after 2 years
Whatever you do don't compare it to anything else directly, it will bother the hell out of you.
@@tygobermind3640 Yeah I think I found my next TV in Huawei's Vision V75 MiniLED TV with 2880 zones and 3000 nits peak brightness.
Any updates on Xbox Series X Dolby Vision at 120fps on the CX ?
its not the tvs fault you dont have 120hz on your xbox.. you should call Microsoft game devs and tell them to update their games to support 4k@ 120hz
not all games support 120hz..the TV works just fine
@@rochester3 He's reffering to Dolby Vision at 120hz not just 4k 120hz.
@@rochester3 There are already 4k120hz games with hdr. He is refering to 4k120hz dolby vision. The C1 and G1 allready got an update, but the cx, gx and bx still are waiting to get the update.
@@rochester3 you do realise 120 hz is not 120 fps...XBSX is capable of 120 hz with many games and halves input lag on 60 fps games
Watching this review on my Acer X35 with local dimming was a challenge when trying to get an appreciation of the blooming.. one to watch on my LG C7 I guess?
Sounds like a winner then...
My QNED99 Panel has no DSE that I can see. When I turn on AI Brightness Pro, the HDR Highlights get significantly Brighter even in gaming mode and improves the quality of image overall!
Sorry, you are fooling yourself.
I thought the same when I bought a Neo Qled, but after a while you will find some always clouding. Not a dealbreaker, but if you don't notice any DSE please don't go searching for it because you will defenitely find it.
@@tygobermind3640 LOL, True, I will take you advice!
@@tygobermind3640 every Samsung has DSE and banding, It’s how they sign their name
@@cmpmeridian1 I've had banding on my previous tv (LG C9) as well.
I'm coming from a 55 inch Samsung from 2010, I know oled is better but this is more than close enough for 1600 cad on sale for the 65".
This panel can't even be compared to my current TV which was high end for its time.
I have a very nice OLED. But what Vincent wants to tell me. 👀
Why doesn't this QNED99 support VRR ? do you think it is something LG will add with an update?
They already said they're NOT bringing VRR to this TV.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M dam, ok, do you remember where you saw that?
@@PSYCHOV3N0M This is definitely a head scratcher. Where did they make this definitive statement?
The point that an LG OLED is a better value or a Samsung higher end LCD, is interesting. However, at that price wouldn’t a Sony A90J be the best choice period. Samsung - no Dolby vision is a fail. Why not compare with a 4K Blu-ray with Dolby Vision, the Samsung LED/LCD and this LG QNED. You may say it isn’t fair to compare DV and nonDV, but whatever it’s one TV against another. I’ll venture to say DV LG QNED will kill the Samsung. However, nothing beats the Sony A90J if price is not a deciding factor.