The Longest Range Electric Scooter Under $1,500 - New EMOVE Cruiser V2 Electric Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- We Test the All New 2024 EMOVE Cruiser V2 electric scooter. What got better...what got worse (How much heavier?)
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All I have to say is if the dual motor version is a 60v with 35+ ah battery that will be a keeper PERIOD!!!!
Can't wait to test it! -Paul
Totally agree!
I'm really looking forward to seeing the acceleration on the dual motor version. Everything else is already perfect as far as I am concerned, all the way down to the split rim tubeless tires! 🫶
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide when does that one come out?
That be will more expensive, range will be cut in half, heavier etc.. All for more 8-10 mph 😅
As a long time cruiser owner, it’s really nice to see a new cruiser completely redesigned and crafted thoughtfully. Looks like they solved a lot of the build quality issues the OG cruiser had.
Hey! Good to see you. Yeah, they had more than 50k scooters (maybe 60 ot 70k now) and put it into this one! Oh, dang! that would have been good to say in the review. -Paul
Nice! This scooter is going to sell very well.
It's a great looking scooter and a much needed update. (as much as we loved the OG EMOVE Cruiser)
Always great to see you here and so glad we got to chat at RiderFest! -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide absolutely, by the way, Paul, are you guys planning to do another Rider Fest this year?
Who the heck needs this kind of scooter? XD How will it sell well, it costs as much as a motorcycle but its slower and much much more dangerous.
@@kraya6740not everyone has the space for a motorcycle, and not everyone would buy a motorcycle to commute. I would consider electric scooters to be sorta an alternative.
Eww 🤢. I would never touch e move
I've been commuting on the original EMOVE cruiser for years now but this last year has been the most enjoyable and stress free because my friend Ken installed fully hydraulic brakes on it for me. The difference is night and day. Those Zoom semi-hydraulic brakes were absolute garbage and needed constant attention. Kind of surprised to hear Paul talk them up so much. Nice to see they fixed the stem in the new version because that was a dangerous design weak spot which my friend Ken reinforced as well. I'm looking forward to seeing the dual motor EMOVE.
Great review as always, Paul. It looks gorgeous and I love the orange and white options. I still have my orange Cruiser S and I still love it, with zero issues to date. The additional 22lbs kinda puts this V2 into different territory from my perspective. It now has the footprint of a lot of dual motor, sport scooters, like the Mantis King GT, which to put it in perspective, is actually 4lbs lighter (ESG tested) than the Cruiser V2. Wow! No doubt the V2 will be successful but people with other dual motor sport scooters in the collection already, may pass. It will be interesting to see what the dual motor version of the V2 brings to the table. That might be a version I'd consider, which I suspect could stack on another 7-9lbs. My favorite part though, no nonsensical app needed to operate the Cruiser V2. Well done, Voro! :)
Great point about the app. I've been struggling with the Dualtron app recently as you'll see next week. They have some affordable smaller scooters out now, but they have actually eliminated some of the buttons, making it so you can't really do anything but change modes 1,2,3 etc without the app and sometimes that can be a real problem. When the app is working correctly it's feature-rich though. Update on the weight. I unboxed the full production EMOVE Cruiser V2 today and it weighed in at 79.8lbs, so I'm updating our database to add the extra 1.6lbs -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Whoooo! ...an 80 pounder with one motor!! haha. Well, no doubt the quality is fantastic but this model now falls into a completely different niche from the previous gen.
This one would be much too heavy for me. But I like the design and the nice bright pop of color. That wide deck looks pretty comfy too.
I never thought the OG Cruiser needed a footrest, but it makes the deck feel even bigger. I ended up using the footrest a lot! -Paul
Best scooter review on RUclips!
Wow! Thank you so much! -Paul
So glad they updated the folding mechanism!
Me too. The stem is much stiffer now too. -Paul
This is the first scooter I purchased without watching a review. Just ordered mine yesterday! 🙂
Let us know how you like it! How soon is it coming? I forgot to cover how soon you can get one! -Paul
How is it?
40 Miles for $1500 is insane. Very nice. Id like to see a review on the Gotrax GX Zero/Ares
We've got one, but it's still in the box! It's on my list, as soon I can get to it. You'll see probably 3 more scooter reviews from me before I get to the GX0. I'm super curious about it though! I wish I could clone myself and review two per week! -Paul
That new Cruiser looks awesome! That is 1000% an upgrade from my Current Emove Cruiser. My fleet is ever evolving. Current fleet: Fluid Vista, Apollo City, Emove Cruiser (not the S Version), and Segway Max G2
Man I hate my vista lol thing overheats after such short rides , fluid replaced it for me but the new one does the same thing
Thanks for the feedback. That's the first I've heard of a Vista overheating. Where are you located?
Is it the motor controller? I wonder if some heatsink compound between the controller and frame would help. -Paul
Nice review. Your review of the pre-S cruiser is what convinced me to buy a Cruiser (2021 model). This new one is interesting, but only for the new suspension and better tires. I’m not sure that’s enough to convince me to trade my old one for this new one, although it’s tempting. I’ll wait for your review of the dual-motor version. That said, it occurred to me that I might be able to buy a pair of the new wheels/tires and install them on my current cruiser to get the self-sealing tires. I don’t know if that’s possible, but it’s worth looking at. Thanks for your review of the new Cruiser. I always enjoy your reviews. Keep ‘em coming!
Thank you so much! I took a look inside the Cruiser S side by side with the V2 and the V2 has a lot more room inside. I didn’t see enough room inside the S to accommodate another controller and the connectors will also be different since they’ve gone plug and play on the V2. -Paul
Really nice scooter with a lot of things you don't see very often. Thanks for what you guys do, awesome review!
Thank you so much for your support! Couldn’t do it without you! -Paul
Great video as always everyone! This is going to be one of the best scooters of the year!
Thanks so much for your support and your feedback! -Paul
I saw this shopping online a little while ago and couldn't wait to see what you had to say. Dual motor option too? Sign me up!🎉
Thanks for letting us know! I love reviews like this because the Cruiser attracts people who really know their scooters, and that sort of audience is the most fun to make reviews for! -Paul
I just got the Kukirin G4. Way fast. I'm a buck forty and I briefly took it to 47mph. Way too fast for a skateboard with handlebars. Serious torque - I did a 25% grade hill at 30mph and it still had juice. Range is at least 40 miles in Race Mode, I bet Econo Mode would go further. Zero Start (no kicking off) and cruise control. A beast.
Thanks for the insight on the G4. -Paul
And three time cheaper ! I’m up to Kukirin as well. Had G2 pro. Now getting g4
It's 40mls in eco mode lol
@@tomaszpakua2457
Get warrior x GT pro
Kugoo is shit😂
Thanks to your reliable and honest reviews, I was finally able to decide what kind of scooter I wanted to buy based on my needs and wants. I was considering buying something that wasn't needed, and that could be a waste of money but, thanks to you, I feel good and confident about my decision!
Great to hear!
Will it be your first scooter?
What'd you get? I got a super basic ass entry level one because it was cheap and it was amazing. But I'm finally upgrading lol
the long overdue upgrade
For sure! We loved the OG EMOVE Cruiser, but it was due! -Paul
This looks like it might be my next E-Scooter. The price is pretty reasonable too. My current one is OK, but is too heavy (114 lbs) to easily load/unload from my car. And mine can do 50 MPH thanks to dual 3000W motors with a range of around 50 miles, although I never go faster than 30 MPH.
Good choice! Solid scooter. Check the link in description for latest price and coupon code.
let’s be honest, most of these upgrades should have been done years ago. emove cruiser always was an outdated frankenstein surfboard on wheels with huge range. i personally picked mine in 2021 for the range only, still using one to this day with sinewave controller. this thing can last for 25k miles easily with proper care and maintenance.
anyway, be ready to deal with awful customer service, rely only on your tech skills and electrical knowledge. you’re gonna need it lol
Yeah, they've sold more than 50,000 of them, so I'm sure they were worried about changing a design that was doing well for them. Which leaves me wondering when the Touring will get an update, because it's even more of an OG. -Paul
The upgrade the legend needed
It was definitely time! (but we still love the OG Cruiser too) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide definitely. No eye sore on the OG. I should've said deserved* instead of "needed" 👍
Could outlast your old car if you never ride when wet and never let it get exposed to any rain, or maybe even that isn't enough. My 2023 Emove Cruiser S just had a short in its controller after riding over a bump. This caused the scooter to stop working and constantly pass current through the motor windings even with the scooter turned completely off from the key. The wheel acted like the output shaft of a stepper motor -resisting rotation because the coils were energized. By the time I was able to cary my scooter back home and open it up, the three main wires were all melted.
Lucky for me, it's only $110 for a new controller and wiring harness as the wheel motor didn't sustain any damage upon testing for continuity between leads.
My Emove cruiser S was used to commute from home to campus for fall and spring semester of college. I never let it sit out in anything more than a light rain, but the fasteners will rust regardless. Still, it is an incredible scooter and I don't think I would upgrade to the V2 for me since I really like the folding handle bars and lighter weight.
Thank you for the video. I am envious of the screen display and the stiffer stem for providing more riding stability. I wish they would pot the sinwave controller to prevent damage via impacts and vibration. The roads are merciless here in Illinois.
Just the word EMOVE is legendary. AKA "Electric Mover " of people. Nice
I love this comments section so much. I never thought about the root of EMOVE. -Paul
Glad they made a solid stem. I wait for the dual motor cruiser .
The funny thing about the Cruiser S is that for some reason I never really notice the stem wobble when riding, but you can feel it a lot when standing still. It’s probably because the S isn’t dual motor, so the front wheel is never switching from pulling to pushing like it will be on the V2 dual motor. It’s definitely a stronger scooter all around. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide This is why I didn’t buy the Cruiser S. A wobly stem is unstable perhaps a bit dangerous. I hope V motors fixed all the screws that came loose after a long ride that many riders were complaining about in the Cruiser S. looking forward to the dual motor Cruiser.
Huge upgrade. 🔥🔥🔥
Amazing!! Awesome new look!! Love that they kept the wide surfboard shaped base.
Glad you like it!
Yes your right the brakes on the original cruiser was very stiff.
You do not understand how long I have been waiting for a scooter like this. I want a fast dual motor e-scooter but those aren't feasible and have questionable legality in my area. I have dreamt of owning my own e-scooter but they are all so expensive. I would appreciate a lower price since it is still $$$. Wonderful review! Keep up what you are doing. I love your passion for e-scooters and I to want to be like you reviewing e-scooters. I want to one day have my own e-scooter store here in Australia. I was looking to see how much it would be to ship the RX7 here and it is over 2.5k! It is also 700 to ship emove v2 to my place. Once again keep it up!
Wow thank you so much for the kind words! So happy I could help! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide It is my honour. Your work deserves more than just kind words! Also it seems the emove v2 isn't on the voromotors au website. When can I expect it to appear?
Since my right arm is still separated from my shoulder, I'm good with the 2023 Cruiser S that I can lift with my left hand alone.
Thanks for another great video because that thing looks awesome and I'd accept nothing less than your input on it. Have fun!
Another top teir review Paul, thank you!
Little disappointed it doesn't get close to the stated 60+ mile state range. Excited about the dual motor version though! Hoping that one will have more range. I will say for the price, 40 miles is solid
Solid for sure
That looks like a nice scooter. I love the brakes. That is a great idea.
These were a rare type of brake when the scooter came out and seem even more rare now. I forgot to add that another reason they work better than mechanical is that they push very evenly on both sides of the rotor, where most mechanical disc brakes are stationary on one side and push on the other side, so they flex the rotor a bit while you're braking. Semi hydraulics and hydraulics don't do that. There are a few mechanical disc brake set ups out there that push both brake pads at the same time though. NIU does that. -Paul
Great review, love the improvements made
nicely updated. Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I'll wait for the dual motor if I can wait.. goes great with my 24 Model Y
I held off on buying the City pro to see what the Cruiser V2 would bring ... does check alot on my wish list unfortunately the additional 20# is a deal breaker for me. I mean for a single motor it's damn heavy at 78#. I didn't want nor need a dual motor mainly due to the weight as I still need to throw this into a bus for my commute... I might as well get the city pro it's 10# lighter, just have to wait till the next sale... don't think the CP is worth it's MSRP
It turns out the weight is a little higher than I reported in the video. I just unboxed the full production version today and the official weight on the ESG scale is 79.8 lbs. Up from the 78.2 lbs of the pre-production unit. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thats funny because voro has it on their website as 74# but your scale reads near 80# (lying, guess its what's in today) That weight is up there with dual motor scooters like Vsett 10, Mantis king GT, etc.... (actually heavier than both) So whats the dual motor variant going to weigh? 90+ pounds? No thanks to either version, tossing the folding bars feature is one thing but that weight gain is unacceptable (for me) a 5-10# gain I may have been able to accept
Love the in-depth reporting here guys! Great updates for an already great scooter. That 52v 30AH shows up in several other scooters as well and I'm wondering if that 40 miles of range is mostly the single motor combined with conservative controller settings? For example, if the RR RS5 max was run at single motor with similar speeds.
It's true. I don't think you'd even need to put the RS5 Max into single motor mode. If you rode the RS5 Max side by side with the Cruiser V2 and kept acceleration and speed the same, the RS5 Max would probably go about as far. It has a slightly larger battery, but is also a bit heavier. It costs more, but of course has dual motors. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks for the reply. Its seems motors and battery voltage is all about top speed and batteryAH capacity is more about range with all things equal?
I think what Paul said was spot on. I own both the previous version Cruiser S and the RX5 Max. At 15-17mph cruise 185-190-ish lb riders, mostly flat, minimal stop & go, they both do about 70ish miles. This is with the RX5 in dual motor mode most of the time. When my brother and I ride them together, generally matching speed, and we're not maxing out they range, they finish very close to the same voltage. Like Paul said 1560Wh compared to 1664Wh, with the RX5 Max weighing about 30lbs more. At steady cruise speed the dual motors cost you virtually nothing compared to single motor cruising. It's when you draw more current than a single motor alone can draw, that's when the dual motor mode loses to single motor, were range is concerned. Obviously it will accelerate slower and go up hills slower in single motor but you will ride further in single. If you ride in dual motor mode and never exceed the current draw of a single motor, range is (about) the same as single motor mode.
I love your videos very informative And entertaining, I was looking into getting at E scooter and I watched so many of your videos. I came to the conclusion that I would get the Solar P 13.0. I ordered it from solar USA. I also ordered it with a saddle because I recently got into an accident and I'm not able to properly stand up on the scooter so I would have to sit down for another 3 months. I ordered the scooter 7/3/2024. it came within a A week and a 1/2 which was perfectly fine. They did not send my saddle. I reached out to them and they told me that they were out of stock, And that they would send me 1 when they get 1 instant in stock, but they didn't know when that would be. I messaged them back about 3 weeks later inquiring about my saddle, Surely they would have had it by now, Nope still didn't have it but they gave me an estimated day of the 25th of July, The 25th came and no saddle, I reached out to them they said that they hadn't got it in yet. Then I told them that I wanted a full refund, And wallah the next day they said they got a saddle in.. I asked for a compensation and expedited shipping. They said that they would honor that. Here it is the 2nd of August, Still no saddle. I also tried to give a review, it was posted and then the next day it was taken down.. I tried to give another review that was posted and then taken down within the next day.. I saw another person review the same exact experience that I had, He didn't get his Saddle either. And then about 3 late days later his review vanished.. It seems like they're only keeping the good reviews and deleting all the bad ones.. What's the point of reviews If they're not going to be transparent and let people know exactly their experience.. Anyway I just wanted to put that out there, I don't know if you would want to reach out to them and say something , Because your channel is obviously an influence.. Like I said. I love your channel and it's informative and entertaining. Not anybody's fault on this side of the fence, but I know you guys have influence so maybe you can reach out to them..Thank you.keep up the good work!
I’m going to reach out to Solar and send them your entire message. I’m so sorry to hear about this happening to you.
-Paul
Thank you I really appreciate it.
Well done to Emove...👏👏👏😻
This is way better than the previous model!!👌
I believe, it will be the no1 selling scooter in company!!!
Only thing i would changed are the brakes to hydraulic..😘
I forgot to mention how many they've sold. When I did the last video about a year ago, there were 50,000 Cruisers out there. I'm guessing it's up to 60k or 70k now! -Paul
That is a huge improvement holy moly kinda miss the key😭
Please review the Obarter gt 10. Its the coolest looking scooter I've seen so far...
Thanks for the suggestion! -Paul
As an owner of the emove cruiser S, I absolutely love the new styling and features of the V2. It's a great commuter scooter. They updated most of the features,the new screen looks great, new grips, new breaks, they still kept the wide deck which I personally love, its like cruising on a street surf board when you're on this thing.
Edit: im really pumped to see the capabilities once they add the dual motors version.
I’m so curious about that version, and also about the options which are coming. I didn’t realize until after we published, that they plan on having a Magura brake option. (Or at least that’s what I gathered from looking at the website last night. No promises from me there.) -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks for the reply, paul. This was a great review of this new model.
Great review as always❤
Thank you! 🤗
A bit bummed about the new weight increasw but I've been waiting for this for a LONG time and it met expectations and more.
Also the production line apparently will have a code to lock the scooter.
Good to know! It's weird because I asked the same day we shot the video and the answer about a locking screen was "no". -Paul
I've put over 500 miles on my original emove cruiser and like the new sinewave controller that I upgraded it with. This new version being over 70 Ibs is a big mistake in my opinion. As its not easy now to carry it or put in a car. 50 LBs + should be the ideal weight for this.
It helps that they’ve given us more places to grab on to, but I was definitely surprised by the weight gain. -Paul
Same range, same top speed. But almost 20lbs heavier than before and it doesn't fold as compact as the old one. Gone are the distinctive Cruiser looks and now it just looks like any other generic scooter on the market. I was really looking forward to them keeping the same formula but improving the build quality. This isn't it. Paul, we know Emove takes your input seriously. Please tell Emove that not everyone wants to lift a 75lb scooter into a trunk or up some stairs. The market is saturated with long range scooters but the Cruiser was THE lightest scooter with 62mi range. It now lost it's main selling point. Sorry Emove, there are better 75lb scooters out there. 💔
Thanks so much for the feedback. I definitely shared with them about how range vs weight and top speed vs weight have shifted on the graphs. I think it will all make more sense in the context of the dual motor version, but still leaves me feeling like the single could have been lighter. -Paul
looks like a great scooter but once you try dual mode you can not go back, great review!
split rim and detachable cable is one of those things that makes me wonder why more ppl dont do it.
Very true!
Especially the cable. Like split rim ig maybe. But the cable costs nothing and makes everyone's lives easier
This new model looks sick! Do you know how waterproof it is compared to the old model ? ❤
Same rating
Do a full review on the mini fighter pro
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll see if we can get one to test. -Paul
Any ideas on when the dual motor will be available? Thanks for the awesome reviews!
Thanks so much! Unfortunately I don't know when the dual motor version is coming. :-(
-Paul
Ordered one the day it was released. Can’t wait to receive it, FedEx appears to have dropped the ball on shipping as it hasn’t updated since it was picked up and was supposed to arrive today.
Hopefully it comes soon!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideCame in today, appears yours came with different settings than mine and I’m not seeing a guide for the P settings on this one yet. Any ideas?
I have a scooter recommendation. Has Electric Scooter Guide ever tested the Easybike G16? It's made in Tel Aviv Israil, and it boasts two HUGE wheels meant for both smooth pavement and off-roading. Both the front and rear wheels are an impressive 16" in diameter. It has a top speed of 20mph and goes roughly 24miles on a single charge. According to the website, it can easily climb an uphill grade of approximately 26.7. The best part, it has suspension that's akin to a regular bike.
We have not tested that brand!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Even though the company who makes that scooter is located in Israel, it might be something worth looking into. The company is Greenger Power Sports.
Love the idra of dual motor cruiser but hoping they add an even bigger battery to keep range. Also hoping the blue is available for the dual motor. Will very likely grab one if so and upgrade my hover 1 journey max.
I haven't heard anything about a bigger battery, but there is some room left inside the deck! How long have you had your Journey Max? -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide September 23' it's a fun scooter but really it's range limited for my needs. Also run an ebike and electric skateboard but for short jaunts of not carrying things find myself reaching for the scooter. Skateboard for if I am in a hurry and bike for long trips.
I had to sell my 3 scooters due to money issues last year
recently I moved on to an EUC since it's less maintenance but the cruiser v2 makes me want to get a scooter again
not too powerful nor too weak, and has crazy range for a good price, can't wait to see what the dual motor is capable of
I hope it'll have a seat option just like the previous model, i'm not a fan of standing when I do long rides
I mention the seat option later in the review. -Paul
Joyor E8-S has over 2000wh. But just no info on that thing anywhere. 2520WH.
Thanks for bringing that one to my attention. I didn't realize Joyor made anything that big! -Paul
Damn, while some of the upgrades are welcome I have to say as an original cruiser rider i'm pretty disappointed. They basically took away 2 of the main reasons I liked the cruiser in the first place. By adding 10kg in weight and removing the folding handlebars they essentially made this a much harder sell given the competition that is available. Also the fact they are still using the very poor xtech x100 brakes which are notoriously unreliable over time is another disappointment. And while the stem and display and light improvements are great, these things should have already been added years ago. Was hoping they would have actually refined the overall design and components more instead of just adding huge amounts of bulk and essentially making it far less portable and practical for urban riding.
You can always swap the bars out if you upgrade from the cruiser S.
You can also swap the brakes for Hydraulics.
Interesting to hear about the xtech brakes. I've had problems with Zooms from time to time, but haven't had trouble with xtech. -Paul
if you order brakes from china - it’s gonna be cheaper to just swap brakes for new ones than to change brake pads. you can always opt for premium hydraulic brakes, but they require bleeding and frequent brake-pads changing, comparing to any hybrid calipers. i use my 2021 cruiser with sinewave controller daily for work, 15-30 miles per day. i swap brake calipers once every 9 months, with occasional pad change throughout the year.
My Cruisers brakes work well as I mainly use the regen to stop . The handlebars, I will swap you my folders for the new bars and stem ! Folders are always loosening up even after lock tight . I think the dual motor cruiser will be the one to buy !
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Yes I find that the XTech just wear out and need changing, mine seem to slip quite a lot too and are hard to adjust especially when they pads are worn, was hoping they might upgrade to something else.
Bruh I need dual motor 😊 , gonna keep waiting
I don’t think you’ll need to wait too long! -Paul
I just bought EMOVE Cruiser V2. I bought another brand, beginner but the tire is flat and I can't see how to change the tire. The battery is also wearing out as the 15 miles is now about 10 in about 10 months. I got this for longer range and commuter purpose. I also bring home 30 pound bags of dog food and this should be able to handle it.
Thanks for the feedback!
Great review with highlights of scooter! It's too heavy, and with non-folding handles, it isn't portable for me. I might have to stick with the current Emove Cruiser.
Thanks so much. I'm pretty sure there will be a folding handlebar option. They've had an optional handlebar before which was also folding. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I guess I'll wait a bit to see if Voro gives a folding handlebar option . Thanks
I needed something to buy cheaper the Wolf Warrior GT Pro, Nami Burn E, and cheaper then Dualtron scooters. *Because their all cost about nearly 2k and above.
Finally I can save up and buy emove cruiser v2, long range, top speed, good design, and cheaper!
Nice! Thanks for watching and commenting! -Paul
Only thing I don’t like about the cruiser is the folding mechanism it gave out on me and I almost busted my ass while riding
Oh no! Did you have many miles on it? Did the main part break or did the latch fail, or come unlatched. The new one feels super solid. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the screw came out somehow I’ve had it for about 3 months
Would you choose this or Apollo Go? I'm torn on which i should get.
Oh, wow that's an interesting pair. The Go is less expensive and 30lbs lighter, but has a battery 1/3 as large. Given the battery size, efficiency is pretty good though. We got 18.6 miles from the Go and 40.8 miles from the Cruiser. The Go has stronger acceleration, but the Cruiser has higher top speed.
I guess the big question is: how much range do you need, and how often will you need to haul it up a flight of stairs or put it in the trunk. I really like both scooters for different reasons. -Paul
I'm gonna cut and weld the pieces that allow the handle bars to fold. Not gonna lose that space saving feature. But also gonna keep the curved, wider new handle bars. Shouldnt be that hard.
In the past Voro had a kit for changing the bars to another type of folding bars. I see those bars on their site right now, but they’re sold out. So maybe that option will come back as a bolt-on option. -Paul
If they make a dual motor I hope it goes up to 40 mph, Maybe 45. I hope it doesn't stay at 33mph
Take one of these, put a recumbent seat on, and a fairing. X1.5 top speed X2 range?
Range definitely goes up when seated! I would love to do a fairing vs no fairing test some day with some really good streamlining! -Paul
Game Changer
That is very fast and you know which e scooter you could try is weped sonic x you going to like it God bless you 🙏 rock on 🤘
Thanks for the suggestion! -Paul
Do you know of any electric scooters that have a manufacturers certificate of origin available? Anything over 30mph needs registered in the state of Missouri
Wow! I hadn't heard about that. No, I don't know of any registrable scooters. The Solar E-Clipse e-moto is the only thing I've reviewed where I've seen that people have been able to get plates. This is a great subject and I really appreciate you letting us know about that. -Paul
According to Voro, the tires are not self-sealing.
Weird. I have a text from my technical contact at Voro saying they are self sealing. -Paul
Ok, I’ve double checked with Voro and they confirm that the Cruiser V2 tires are self sealing. -Paul
When I got in today, I took the tire off and confirmed: self sealing. -Paul
Hey Paul, sorry for the trouble! I was misinformed by someone at Voro when I texted her the question.
I enjoy your videos! Your videos helped me decide on the Cruiser S. I still love it but find the handle bars too low, so I’ve been looking into the V2.
Man, imma miss the foldable handlebars and the keys, the bottom lights, and its heavier. They changed good things but sacrificed alot of others as well.
These were Some things that made the cruiser somewhat unique. Now for the price point this is competing with the vsett 10+ etc and looks like one as well.
I remember that about 2 reviews back, one of the accessories was a set of folding handlebars. I just checked and that set is shown on their website, but isn't available right now. It's the kind that come together like a drawbridge in the middle and don't wiggle after 50 miles of riding. So I hope that option becomes available again. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i hope too as well.
Funny I just found out about this scooter yesterday lol. I dont like that 30 some mph speed i geuss its more for like a beginner scooter rider. Im used to always going fast cause where i live i have some long straight roads im always at 40 or maybe 50 some mph on my scooters lol. Its a great feature though different color variations though most is only one color option or 2 on this scooter. I like how they put that percentage indicator on the new display screen its a way more accurate way to see how much juice you have left on the battery. But anyways paul! Whenever you can make a review on the solar "hyperion" im still thinking what to get next thats a 72 volt but nami burn 2 max is on my bucket list for sure. I like the mars XTR but not so sure cause you mentioned that doesnt have sinewave controller im geussing its jerky on the throttle?
I'll definitely review the Solar Hyperion as soon as we can get our hands on one! -Paul
Great review, will it have a seat option? When is the dual motor v2 release date?
Yes, I asked Voro and they said that the throne seat will fit, but please double check before ordering! -Paul. (we show the throne seat in the video, but it's futher in).
I know when the dual motor is coming, but I don't know if they'll let me say. It's not that far away though. I haven't seen photos of one yet but imagine it will look exactly the same other than the front wheel. -Paul
Still waiting for ipx8 or at least ipx7 water rating from them. For now still gambling with ipx4 scooter in all weathers. Lucky that in 1800miles, only needed to change rear bearing. (Xiaomi pro2)
That’s a good track record of rain riding! IPX6 is the highest we’ve seen for water so far. I look forward to the day when I can ride them all like I ride my motorcycle: every day, rain-or-shine. I think they are all going the right way though, which is making individual components water resistant, rather than trying to hide non-water resistant parts in a box. I never really thought about it, but cars and motorcycles let water in everywhere. It’s the individual parts which are protected. -Paul
I have the emove cruiser s and the Mantis King GT . At the end of the day I actually prefer the cruiser for its range and handling . Glad they did away with the goofy handlebars and the excessive amount of allen bolts . I like my GT also but really I mainly ride at 30 mph so anymore is kind of overkill .The Mantis does have better suspension though . I was looking at the Roadster but it seems to be having a lot of problems . Also if I am cruising at 30 mph I would not need all of the roadsters power .
What sort of problems have you heard about the Roadster and where did you learn about them. I must be out of the loop, because I haven't heard much (bad or good) about how the Roadsters are doing in the real world. I assumed it was just because there aren't that many of them out there. Ours has been fine and we have a pre-prod unit so our controllers aren't even bolted down, but just sort of stuck to the aluminum belly plate by heatsink compound. -Paul
🛴 - Awesome Review Paul (Always) - Great Scooter absolutely Love it! - 🛴
Thank you so much! -Paul
Look forward to dual motor : )
I contacted emove and they told me they don’t have a release date for the dual motor but I’m waiting patiently I think.
We don’t have info on the dual yet!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you. I’m highly anticipating the dual motor scooter and literally can’t wait
Do you find the sides of the deck slippery where there is no grip tape? Could i add a strip at the edges?
You could definitely add more if you’re going to ride in the rain. I forgot about that, but it’s something we recommended in the 2021 review if I remember correctly. -Paul
The Emove Cruiser S has the reinforced seat as an accessory. Does the seat attach to the new V2?
Yes, that's what I've heard. -Paul
I was wondering the same thing. Checked the website and the seat is only showing up for the Cruiser S, not for the V2 unfortunately.
FYI, I saw part of the Voro webcast about this yesterday. He said the seat will be available but they have to make an adjustment for the base plate first.
Front rim will be able to split once they put that other motor in it..
True, but the single motor version will remain solid rim up front. -Paul
How’s this scooter reliability compares to the Ninebot g2max?
Great question! Our reliability score calculator spreadsheet puts the Max a little ahead of the Cruiser with scores of 9.1 and 8.6 out of 10 respectively, but both have fairly high scores. The Cruiser V2's score is pulled down by not yet having a UL listing. Where the MAX G2 has UL, but its score is pulled down by a non-name-brand battery and a lower water resistance rating than the Cruiser V2. -Paul
When does the dual mother model become available? Will it get the same range and how fast will the scooter go with two motors?
I don't know for sure when it's coming out, but I'm pretty sure it will be before end of year. Maybe before Black Friday. I assume the battery is the same, so if you rode side by side with this one at the same speed and acceleration, the range would be the same. Having more available output power usually means using more available power though, so the typical rider taking advantage of the dual motor power will probably get something in the low to mid 30's. Top speed is unknown, but we'll definitely test it. Top speed should be north of 40mph though, based on output power. -Paul
Can someone please tell me which one should I go for, emove V2 or Apollo City 24?
It really depends on which you need more: hill climbing and acceleration or range.
In our tests Cruiser V2 went about twice as far, but the City accelerates twice as quickly and climbs hills with authority.
Check out the ride finder page at the electricscooterguide website to see all of our test numbers. -Paul
Just subscribed to the channel! Love the content and getting into the PEV world! I live in Canada and was wondering if I should buy a razer mx650 and an electro and co upgrade kit or an alien rides bronco extreme 10. I'm a big adrenaline junkie as i grew up on dirt bikes and could benefit from a PEV for commuting and having fun on the weekends. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know. I am 6 feet 2 inches tall by the way for referance and my commute is about 4 miles each way to and from work
PS: I do have a highboy S2 but find it slow for me personally.
Thanks for subscribing! Check out the ride finder on the electricscooterguide site. It will let you search by just about any criteria and show you all of our test data for range, top speed etc. -Paul
Not having the folding handelbars is a bad move.
Thanks for the feedback!
how about the nami versioin specially the max version? they go for around 100 kilometers
Great scooters, but also at a higher price point. I'm still a little bummed out that I didn't get to test the Klima (Mitchell did that review) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide here .the max version cost around 2.2k grand I think
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide also that is one of the strongest scooter bro. on of the best here in PH. they are also water proof.and strong in hillclimb
I have been looking for a scooter to buy and was wondering if any of these scooters can fit inside a grocery cart to keep it safe I would rather take it with me when I go shopping
Apollo Go fits the boxes! geni.us/ApolloGo use code RIDERGUIDE for Max Discount
I meant like write it up to the store and stick it in the cart instead of chaining it up outside. So if it's with me while I shop I know it's safe@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideseeing how big these models are I'm curious which ones would fit
Very similar to nami on the handlebars the switches and horn. Its almost like a mix n match of all the Chinese parts thrown together on a number of scooters. Same parts new paint.
Voro uses the same ones on the Roadster too. -Paul
I want a green one!
I'm stoked they added green! -Paul
All that added weight is only worth it in the dual motor version
I’ve got an Emove touring and the first month of usage and there were so many issues and voromotors tried to charge me $450 for repairs. Since then it’s been alright except for having to change the front tire. I’m scared of voromotors now. The customer service is rough.
Did you buy it new or used. Why wouldn't the repairs be covered under warranty? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide They claimed there was water damage and rust. The only issue is that I only rode in very very minimal mist, (almost no rain) and I had it for a less than a month. On top of that, they claimed the motor cracked and said that resulted from user damage but theres no way to distinguish between potential mishandling from before they gave it to me or if it is actually my fault. That should have been under warranty because cracking in less than a month is crazy. I've also read stories of similar situations where Voromotors says the damage is because of the owner just so that they don't have to cover repairs.
I can't to see the specs for the dual motor version.
The dual motor specs haven't been released yet. -Paul
so they made the handlebars unnecesarily wider but took away the folding mechanism? I do no like that at all, that's really bad for portability
I expect that there will be a bolt-on folding bar option at some point. They have had different bolt on folding bars before. -Paul
Do you know of the back wheel motor on the V2 would fit on the original cruiser?
Great question. It may not because the swingarm are different and also the motor cables are on the wrong side and have different connectors. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Ah, that's unfortunate. Wish they had a split rim function for the original Cruiser. Those tires are a pain to change out. Thank you for doing a review on the V2 and answering my question.
let's hope it doesn't fall apart as badly as the first one
There are far fewer fasteners to keep track of on this one, that's for sure. -Paul
Is okai neon es20 good? I would be happy if you tell me your opinion.
Yes! I really like that scooter. We tested an earlier version, but I’m sure it’s only gotten better since then.
Review below!
-Paul
ruclips.net/video/nZfOgTmWz94/видео.htmlfeature=shared
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Is there anything you can recommend that is better than this, at the same price, sir?
hey Paul! have you looked at the Langfiete GT2 RS?
We have not!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide take a look! (Please)
Could I put this battery in the mantis pro se?
No. It won’t work. Wrong voltage and wrong plugs. -Paul
Im torn, I was about to buy the vmax v4 and this one came out. Which one would you recommend?
We would go with the cruiser! Please check link in description for best pricing.