Is it just me or does the "It has rust here, here, here and here" invoke thoughts of "well, if you'd clean and lube it regularly, you might eliminate not only the corrosion issues, but also the stoppages." My goodness, it looked and sounded like that gun was crying out to the gun gods "PLEASE send this guy a container of Frog Lube!" All serious joking aside, great review. Straightforward and to the point. Made note of some good considerations and gave pros/cons of the gun. Nicely done.
Just to let people know...Nitride goes on "Clear," it's a metal treatment. Usually manufactures will then Black Oxide over the Nitride treatment. Some companies like FN use a PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) which is a tough coating in its own right. Also, some Nitride treatments will get a QPQ process...which is a Quench Polish Quench process which aids in hardening and the QPQ process can go on Black in color or Clear. QPQ is very durable too. So if you have a Nitride metal part and see the black or any other color wearing off. It's Not the Nitride coming off. Since Nitride bonds with the metals substrate at a molecular level actually penetrating the substrate (outer layer of the metal) layer of the metal. Hope this helps some of you out. And yes I know my stuff, I have a Ph.D. in Organic Chemistry.
Ummm Beretta PX4, Beretta APX, HK P30. In the case of the PX4 Langdon had 50,000 through his without a stoppage, the Beretta APX is notoriously reliable with ranges saying that they just keep running and running, and then the HK P30 again being shot a shit ton by Langdon without stoppages. There is an instructor on here with a G1 PDP that he uses and lends out to students, it racked up 85,000 rounds without a stoppage, but he maintains his guns and he did replace the recoil spring with a flat wire spring (silicon carbide grip was full of hand gunk, but slide looked pretty solid). Of course there are tons of Glocks with dumb round counts. P365'S that have been fantastic for 4000-12000rds), P226/229. Of course Smith makes a pretty reliable gun if you don't hit a QC issue. Most pistols if maintained will just keep eating without a hiccup. We are lucky to have such a great selection.
@@steemerxaxon1643 You can buy them used for 2500. Absolutely one of the hest deals on the market, I saw two used ones a day or two ago, but I'm not in the market for one just yet.
I've had my P10c since early May as well, and it has right at 4300 rounds through it. Other than the stiff mag release you mentioned, the only problem I had was the tip of the firing pin broke off. Got a used one from CZ-USA. They told me there are no replacement parts available yet. The tip broke off at the 4000 round mark. I've had no ejection problems, ftf, stove pipes nothing. No hiccups whatsoever. It's been a great gun. The only things I'm going to do is replace the striker assembly when Cajun Gun Works develops one, and put a set of Dawson Precision sights on.
I've seen torture test of continuos fire with over 5000 rounds dunking in water and such along the way with no issues, so I know this gun performs!!! I have several CZ's owned them for years, and I love them!!! I've seen Glock with a whole lot less rounds with the same test with stoppages!!! You can have weak guns off the assembly line from all manufactures, but I'll back CZ all the way!!!
1. Fire your firearm. 2. Come home from firing your firearm 3. Perform proper cleaning of firearm 4. put firearm away until next time you fire it. 5. repeat process. 6. End of problems...
If I had to guess, I would say the stoppages are because of the recoil spring. It gets hot from the barrel and thus, it's longer. That may cause it to be harder to press completely so slide won't cycle completely rearwards. Something like this used to happen on first batches of Glocks 4th gen., as new dual spring was stiffer than it should be. Just guessing. Anyway, looking forward to buy this P-10C. But it's hard as most of the production is exported to USA from CZ and we here in Slovakia and Czech republic have a hard time to get it, every time it's in the store it's just 1 or 2 pieces, immediately pre-ordered :) YOu have to buy less out there in USA so we can get some too :) Greetings from few remaining free countries of Europe!
Doug Sharp suggested changing mag springs. I say Good call, cheap and easy to try and I like having the stronger ones anyway. I think it sounds like there's a timing issue with the feeding of the rounds, although the spent brass staying in the chamber is a concern that has me stumped. If the mag springs were weak, they wouldn't be pushing the next round up hard/fast enough to screw with extraction/ejection I wouldn't think. It might be a combination of problems. I wonder if the chamber is a tad rough, and when it heats up a lot, the gun is having a problem extracting the expanded/spent case. The way he said that the cycling didn't feel right/felt sluggish makes me think it might be having trouble extracting. Almost like it yanked the spent case partially out, it got stuck, the extractor claw lost grip, and the next round tried to feed as the slide was returning back home after a partial cycle and case still in the chamber. I say "Good luck with that one broseph"
I saw a review of a Sig p320, 13,950 rounds thru it with 2 fte's. Looked ok after the test. I think the moral of the story is, any of the big name guns you could pick would be an excellent gun.
Yup, but you get people who don't treat their guns right, and they start blaming the firearm. P320 is still a problem though, multiple engineers have looked it over on YT and have explained how it could potentially fire on its own. Additionally, there was a post about a year ago from a guy who had an officer experience an uncommanded discharge while exiting his squad car, and the bullet went through his knee. Definitely don't recomment a P320 without a manual safety FCU.
Great review! 5000 rounds in 3 months in one gun...wow!! Great job. I do envy your big ammo budget. That's like over $1000 worth of ammo in 3 months. I wish I could do that. Lol
@Computer-Blue Your life must be fun... Back when ammo was 20c/rd it was pretty easy to blow through 500 in a week. Factor in classes, that's 1500 or so a month, 4500 in 3 months, if you take a couple big name classes they usualy ask for around 200-500rds. Completely reasonable to put that many rounds through a pistol in 3 months. Just because you don't shoot, doesn't mean you can throw aspersions on others like that.
FR, there are lots of poor stupid haters after the ammo shortage. What they need to do is get a second job so they can afford to practice more often 😂 Smh
As you shoot the gun and it's temperature increases it causes the metal in the gun to expand. The expansion of the metal causes increased friction and additional overheating as well as a slow down in cycling as the metal parts rub together and cause resistance.
At this point, I'm invested in a G26 Gen 4 (EDC) and a custom CZ SP-01 (fun!). From all the reviews, CZ continues to have the ergonomics down pat. However, it appears harder to maintain and CZ doesn't seem able to supply parts, which is NOT how to compete against the G19! Your comments about rust were surprising and disappointing. If I were selecting an EDC pistol, I'd likely still end up with what I chose.
Bought mines on 12/9/23 and had to return it to service on the same day. Firearm wouldn't feed anything! Received it back on 1/19/24 and CZ USA fixed it, The verbatim notes left are as follows: “Honed chamber, adjusted and polished breach face lead-in, feed ramp, and barrel hood. Functions checked and test fired good with CCI Blazer 9mm 115gr FMJ and Federal Premium Tactical HST 147gr.” One stoppage per 1000 rounds is acceptable, clean and lubricate after 300 rounds and see if the fixes it? Amount of rounds you fired through it, all the springs and recoil guide and pins should be replace as well as that worn ejector. For rust prevention? I use Corrosion X on all the metal parts, some use Fluid Film. Reply
Great review! You packed in a lot of good data in a brief period! I'm impressed with the fact that you did the review against the competitor, without any bias. Excellent job brother! 👍🏽
Solomon Lehnerd Thank you for your honest opinion and detailed review. This was a potential contender for my first polymer pistol, but after your range time assessment, I'll have to pass. 😔
I've had the same issue where it would re feed the spent casing! But it would be jammed in there. So maybe it never left the barrel.. currently running primary machine barrels have more of typical jams, but seeing this video reminded me of this stoppage!!
I've carried multiple models of Beretta, Cz, Hk, S&W, Walther, Ruger, Sig, Glock, and Springfield Armory over the years and the only guns that did not rust somewhere were the glocks and berettas.
I have the same problem with the stiff msg release and the slide release. Of course I’ve only put 300 rounds through it but not the white box cheap ammo. I was told it will loosen up after 300-400 rounds. It is very accurate right out of the box and the trigger is great. All in all I’m satisfied wiyomy CZ P10 C
I bought mine about a month ago. Shot 2,000 rounds in it so far. I've gotten it plenty hot doing lots of drills with it. Haven't experienced your failure yet, I hope it stays that way. I took first place last weekend in an IDPA match with it. I can't say for sure I prefer it over the Glock 19 but it's a close contender. I'm going to continue shooting it hard over the next few months and see how she does.
Campsiite,, not that I disagree entirely with you but Glock is by far the easiest pistol out the box to walk into a gunstore purchase sights, holster, and stock factory parts. No other pistol in the world has that. That is why I'm not convinced the P10C is the "Glock Killer" everyone professes it to be. I do however really enjoy shooting the CZ over the Glock but I won't be selling my G19's (plural) any time soon.
PPSChadwick without going back and "researching" I vaguely remember hearing that the P10 uses a dovetail for Smith & Wesson's or something like that for the sights.
Matthew thank you, I wasn't sure and it probably was back when they were first getting ready to be released and that the P10 would work in a glock holster which turned out to be not quite true
@@PPSChadwick idk ,that might change, CZ has been making pretty big moves since they opened a factory in Kentucky. Now that they don't have to deal with import laws on specific parts/finished guns I'm sure they're gonna attempt to encroach on Glock's hold of striker fire pistols.
I think the P10C looks great with some wear and abuse for sure. The finish on my P-07 is like tank armor though. I couldn't blemish it if I tried. I have like 2,000 rds though it and the barrel hood looks brand new.
Awesome video, thanks for Doing it. There’s a ton of “initial thoughts” reviews out there so It’s nice to have a long term review. Also, Love the shot at nutnfancy 😂 dude talks way too much haha.
I had 2 similar stoppages with my new P10C. After listening to your circumstances I think I can break the code on a generic reason for the malfunctions. My stoppage was a live round stuck in the chamber each time making the slide nearly impossible to retract in order to eject round or see what issue was. This happened with range session less than 200 rounds with one of the stoppages happening in first 50. BUT....I was running 3 types of ammo through the gun - all 115gr. Ammo used: Browning 115 RN (Winchester made), Fiocchi 115 RN, and Freedom munitions 124gr RN. ONLY the BROWNING (WINCHESTER MANUFACTURED) ROUNDS MALFUNCTIONED...never the Fiocchi or Freedom. Similarities: Winchester manufactured ammo was culprit....did you ever have your issue happen with any other ammo? Somewhat similar: mine occured after around 50 and 125 rounds outdoors on very hot summer day in the deep South. Dissimilar: my round was never left in mag in vertical position. Solution: I will not run any Winchester 9mm ammo through it again for future range training to see if this alleviates the not so confidence building stoppages. Until I run at least 1000 more with no stoppage I will not carry this firearm....even though I shoot well with it. I love the aggressive grip. My mag ejection is somewhat sticky but not too much to be operationally unsafe.
Outstanding, i fricken love my cz p10c. The trigger is sickening.... in a good way. Lol...... soft smooth trigger and the reset unbelievable factory trigger. My only issue is the mag release that is a little stiff. No deal breaker but wish it was a little easier .,....... looking forward to get my hands on the cz p10s. Subcompact ..... thanks ....
When I picked mine up new, I had the same issue with the mag release and the slide release. I kept working both for over a week until my hands were raw, but it did the trick. now their smooth running.
Funny thing is if you looked at the glock it had same damage on the ejector it happens after so much use why they make and sell replacment parts. Guns are like cars they wear down so they need to be fixed from time to time
Just my two cents. I'm a sweaty guy and here in South Florida (especially during summertime) I can sweat profusely especially also if I'm doing chores outside. I have found that sometimes you just have to check, clean and lubricate your weapon on a daily basis.
Im thinking the sluggish part after it gets hot is maybe it its getting too dry? I know glocks like to run dry but some guns dont example being the m&p series. I noticed your cz looks a little on the dry side so maybe it you keep it oiled a little more often maybe that will help. Such an odd ball malfunction
Great weapon. I’m a long time Glock guy so grip is different. I am enjoying it. Two comments but I wouldn’t say negative. Changing backstrap is a pain. Used a punch set and the pin is hollow, takes a little. Tight is good but a solid pin would make easier. Slide not locking to rear on empty, 100% my grip. Locks manually on open mag. They could adjust this because that mag release is hard to engage. Trustworthy, good shooting weapon.
The pin for the strap is absolute garbage. I destroyed mine trying to get it to go back in. Ended up using a toothpick that I sanded down, it works just fine, and if it breaks I have plenty to replace it with. I am honestly considering hitting the grip with silicon carbide cause the sides have 0 texture. That is of course if I don't sell the P10F, it's a decent pistol, but I find mysself struggling to justify keeping it. Of course that's likely because I moved to the dot and the P10F is not milled. But even if I milled it I am unsure if that would solidify its spot in the quiver.
I felt a well-used cz p10c at a range and the tolerances felt really tight. The gun is really well and consistently machined...but maybe such tight tolerances combined with material limitations mean that it's more easily affected by thermal expansion?
Weird my Czech made P10F is a bit of a maraca, up and down and side to side. If there's that much play on an essentially new gun then I can't imagine how much there is on a well used one.
Excellent, detailed review. Yeah, I'd probably clean the gun more, myself... but hey... ignore the haters. The rusted pins and mag release are a good note.
Have you inspected the frame for cracks where the roll pin goes through the frame just forward of the take down lever? I like my Glocks but I am in the market for the CZ P10C. I saw a very good review by Earl An in which he gave "pro/con" assessment of the pistol and showed pictures of the fractures. Others who have reviewed this pistol have not found such cracks. Concerned, I'd like to get as much info on the pistol before pulling the trigger on one.
Great video. Had the same issues at the range on my p10 S. 2 discharge issues and one stoppage issue in under 300 rounds. Was not to happy about it because I had such high expectations for the p10 series as an edc. Not so sure anymore.
Good video I love seeing people really enjoying there guns and making them work. Just got the cz p10c 3 weeks ago and so far I love it I have 608rds threw it of 3 different cheap ammo and some hollow points with zero malfunctions and that was 1 session I’m gonna put it threw another session before I start carrying it I got a tulster holster today and seems like it’s going to be a good match for it it fits great.
Great input! but i think you should do a full cleanup of both your glock and CZ. I mean complete disassembly and maybe some ultrasonic cleaning. You can learn how to completely disassemble it and a good ultrasonic cleaner will cost around 80 bucks
First off, thanks for sharing this video. All semiauto handguns at one point or another have a failure or malfunction, and the reason varies from faulty ammo, to a defective mag, to a mechanism problem, to shooter improper handling. The fact of the matter is, based on the laws of physics (including material strength) moving parts on a mechanism are not infallible, or of eternal durability, they react to conditions. You have to do maintenance to your tool, trying to keep it in mint condition, avoiding abuse, and excessive wear, not only caused by ammo but by excessive heat from continued firing, which expands the metal causing malfunctions. The CZ P10 C on this video looks tortured and poorly kept. It is for sure dirty. Keep your handgun wet, well lubricated, and it will last longer.
For the price of that gun and all the +P you shot thru it. Great gun. I have the same one with threaded barrell with suppressor height sights and love it. About to alternate with my Hellcat, just bought a 3rd mag.
I've heard not all mag releases are that bad but stiff. I couldn't depress mine using both thumbs. I decided to just replace it with an Apex, not they drop like a beretta.
The hype surrounding these pistols was insane last year, everybody wanted one and they were highly recommended. I've read about multiple people having problems out of theirs, some even had parts breakage. So you're lucky that you didn't have any parts break! These just aren't high round count guns, CZ has some work to do still yet. You can't increase production and keep the same level of quality control at the same time. I did want one of these pistols, until I read about the dissatisfied people who were dupped into buying an average handgun. Everybody on RUclips recommended this handgun! Of course not everyone is gonna have problems with their particular gun, because just like you said this is one example. I find it kind of interesting that both Larry Vickers and Hickok45 both bought the FN 509 over the P-10C, makes me wonder. Personally I went with the APX, I bought one in .40 S&W and if it holds up I'll check one out in 9MM. Also like the fact that you buy full power ammo, I never quite understood why people used brands like Freedom Munitions. For one it's not actually cheaper and second it's underpowered as fuck. Always train with a practice load that's comparable to your carry load! One reason I always liked .40 S&W (yes, I know most people don't), the FMJ loads are loaded at the same pressure. Great video, this needed to be said! Just because something is popular, that doesn't make it great..RUclipsr's will straight up like to you for personal gain. Personally I'm always skeptical of what I read online, so many keyboard warriors that it's ridicuous.
Have no issues with mines, but the firearm should be clean and lubricate after every 300 or 400 rounds anyways. Do you let your power tools continuedly to run dry? Eventually it's going to stop working or break. Not a fan of the CZ P-10c, I don't like the firing pin block, there's better design. For corrosion protection I use Corrosion X, Some I know use Fluid Film and they had no issues.
Based on my experience with different CZ models some factory mag springs have fairly low tension so I've replaced them with springs that have 10% more tension. Wolff Gun Springs. The issue with FTE here looks like a combination of issues with perhaps extractor spring tension and mag spring strength. Given the volume of rounds I would replace those springs and lightly stone the ejector to make the gun even more reliable. Just my two cents but I hope it's helpful. Pay close attention to angles if you're stoning an ejector!
Rooftop it will help with ftf. I got the idea after buying non- factory mags from Mecgar and noting they were much harder to load for the last three rounds. Switched the springs on my 18 round factory mags and problem solved!
I had a old timer once Told me never let your slide slam forward.Do it manually because your pistol will get hiccups.And that is happening to you, don't slam the slide forward. He Said to me.That's only in movies.. God bless brother.
LOL😂😂😂, Thanks for your honest review! Both guns are awesome guns. If you carry both on your left and right, you got nothing to fear, bro! And yes, rube your gun every thousand rounds at least, don't wait till three thousand 😂😂😂.
Shot my p10 over the weekend around 350 rnds worked perfectly but I noticed when I ran the magazine into the gun it racks itself. Is that normal? Also one of the pins in the back came out about a quarter way I had to hammer it back in. I tried calling cz today but no reply. Anyways any help would be much appreciated thanks! Great vid!
@@rornowskibreaks5187 I was told this by the shop I bought mine at, Topgun of Volusia. You can also see it's a normal feature by the chatter here: czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=97838.0 Hope this helps!
Soooo True. I have found absolutely NOTHING about a Glock that I like. ( grip like a 2x4, mushy trigger, plastic sights, etc, all of which are true facts.)
@@7.0sbfgmcrusher95 Glock has one thing going for it: No matter how much abuse you give it, it keeps going. Yeah, they're very meh and not the same value for dollar they used to be, but man are they reliable.
Best quality guns on the market? Have you seen the market? Sure they have a great value and are fantastic guns, but it's highly naive to say they're the "best quality guns on the market." Are you insinuating Glocks are poor quality and inaccurate?
@@aomaggots- yes because glock sights are known to walk left or right after a few thousand rounds and they are non adj. Glocks feel like shit and trigger sucks. Out of box cz is one of the best you can get.
I prefer my Glocks G4 Glock 23 (Favorite handgun in the world) G5 Glock 19 (FBI Standard Issue) I like all firearms in general but when it comes to handguns, I prefer Glock...
Thank you for the interesting video. Question, how often do you spray the insides with CLP or something similar? I wonder if that would have prevented some of the internal rust.
Nice review bro. I went into a local gun store to pick up this pistol and came out with a P320 X-Carry. The P-10C felt like I was holding a baby porcupine in my hand. The P320 X-Carry felt perfect in my hands. It also shoots well now that I've put about 500 rounds through it. With that being said, I still want to pick up a P-10C. I've heard nothing but positive reviews, but I might have get it stipled as soon as I buy one.
I have one in 45, P10F. Glad I got one. Didn’t want to go with Glocks, way to many folks have it, just not me. It goes well with me and the misses collection. Sig S, Springfield, Daniel D and CZ.
I tend to agree plenty of people have glocks. That’s fine I just like a nicer shooting gun. And different options. As far as the review having rust. Mine has just under 2000 on mine carried daily in humid Texas. I clean mine one or twice a month. Keep it well oiled it does have rust in the roll pin on the grip but i always clean it. Because I work a very dirty job. Love my 9mm p10F. Have a few sigs looking to get another cz 75 and a pdp pro full sized.
Thanks for the review. I have a CZ P09 for general defense (home, truck gun, and shooting range) Love shooting it. I have a Shield 9 performance for my LTC. I think CZ did not outperform the G19 by making the 10c. I would buy a G19 before I'd by this gun. S&W has been mimicking Glock for so long and I still think the G17 and G19 are the best polymer striker fire 9's in their price range for reliability(long term)and performance(long term). I'm not a fanboy, just a gun enthusiast and avid shooter.
Is that one of CZ's lube free pistols? When you rack the slide it sounds like a cat hanging on a screen door. I own and carry CZ's but I never heard one that sounded like that.
Good review you fired a substantial amount of rounds through the pistol to form an objective opinion. There have been reports that the frame on some P210c's have been cracking under the locking block area. Have you been able to take the frame components apart and inspect the frame itself and the components?
My P10c is back at CZ only after 700 rounds. The slide release wire spring jumped out of its recess and got all mangled up and jammed in between the frame and locking block. Pretty sure this is the first failure of its kind after trying to research for similar problems. My locking block had a good amount of flex within the frame. Enough flex to make room for the wire spring to jump out and up into the slide/frame rails. Was not able to remove slide to field strip until I yanked on it knowing it will mangle the wire spring even further. Really hope this works itself out. Never had to send a gun back to the manufacturer before. Really enjoyed the pistol while it was working, felt perfect in the hands and the trigger was great.
Rooftop i saw on the forums one other person with the same exact problem who sent his gun back to CZ. I thought i was the only one. He got his p10c back...200 rounds in wire spring popped back out of the locking block. Not good. May sell mine and wait until a gen. 2 comes out as I have been eying a walther p99as. Currently back to carrying the Glock.
I have a P07 and a older CZ75B that are exceptional shooters. The only issue I had was the rear sight on the P07 worked it's way loose but that was an easy fix with some Locktite.
I agree on checking mag, Also you using white box. I bet unusual carbon from white box like you said . Save up do a four hundred of carry ammo. Practice with crap but base reality after shooting with carry ammo, There's a reason it's called target ammo . Good review though, I remember my young and dumb years when I got rid of a fantastic CZ because of stoppages . And to this day I'm Ninety nine percent sure it was a mag issue.
3 malfunctions isn't bad out of 5k rounds, but I agree that it's something to look into. Out if curiosity because you had it in the table, do you remember how many malfunctions you had with the g17 with 12k rounds through it?
If you do the math the CZ has a malfunction 1 out of every 1666 rounds and the Glock has a malfunction every 1 in 1000. So now who has the better record? answer CZ!
Could it be the plastic guide rod get hot and flexing enough to let this happen? I put in an ss guide rod in mine an have had no issues. Thanks for the info and vid! Let me know if this fixed the issue...
Is it just me or does the "It has rust here, here, here and here" invoke thoughts of "well, if you'd clean and lube it regularly, you might eliminate not only the corrosion issues, but also the stoppages." My goodness, it looked and sounded like that gun was crying out to the gun gods "PLEASE send this guy a container of Frog Lube!"
All serious joking aside, great review. Straightforward and to the point. Made note of some good considerations and gave pros/cons of the gun. Nicely done.
Yep….it sure sounded dry…..but nice review.
Just a suggestion if the stoppage happens again just mark the mag that it happens with. Could be a mag that is giving you the issues...
I am sure he knows that!
That's how you do a review. Nicely done.
Great review... no sponsorship. Just a guy who beat the piss out of it like your supposed to.
I love how detailed this is. Especially how you go into wear and rust on the small parts being effected by wear, sweat and humidity.
Just to let people know...Nitride goes on "Clear," it's a metal treatment. Usually manufactures will then Black Oxide over the Nitride treatment. Some companies like FN use a PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) which is a tough coating in its own right. Also, some Nitride treatments will get a QPQ process...which is a Quench Polish Quench process which aids in hardening and the QPQ process can go on Black in color or Clear. QPQ is very durable too. So if you have a Nitride metal part and see the black or any other color wearing off. It's Not the Nitride coming off. Since Nitride bonds with the metals substrate at a molecular level actually penetrating the substrate (outer layer of the metal) layer of the metal. Hope this helps some of you out. And yes I know my stuff, I have a Ph.D. in Organic Chemistry.
Rick S Stop trying to convince gun know it alls with facts and science
Great info
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... but this is inorganic chemistry. Nah, just playing, thanks for the info!
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Thanks for the info though😉😘
One failure per 1,500 rounds always in a hot dirty handgun. What handgun is more efficient? Just seems awfully good.
I think the wilson combat edc x9 surpasses most, but its $3800
The WC EDCX9 "IMO" not only a GOOD GUN but the BEST looking Gun ever made!!! But there isn't to many people can just whip out $4,000 for a Gun
Ummm Beretta PX4, Beretta APX, HK P30. In the case of the PX4 Langdon had 50,000 through his without a stoppage, the Beretta APX is notoriously reliable with ranges saying that they just keep running and running, and then the HK P30 again being shot a shit ton by Langdon without stoppages.
There is an instructor on here with a G1 PDP that he uses and lends out to students, it racked up 85,000 rounds without a stoppage, but he maintains his guns and he did replace the recoil spring with a flat wire spring (silicon carbide grip was full of hand gunk, but slide looked pretty solid).
Of course there are tons of Glocks with dumb round counts. P365'S that have been fantastic for 4000-12000rds), P226/229. Of course Smith makes a pretty reliable gun if you don't hit a QC issue.
Most pistols if maintained will just keep eating without a hiccup. We are lucky to have such a great selection.
@@steemerxaxon1643 You can buy them used for 2500. Absolutely one of the hest deals on the market, I saw two used ones a day or two ago, but I'm not in the market for one just yet.
Great detailed review!
I've had my P10c since early May as well, and it has right at 4300 rounds through it. Other than the stiff mag release you mentioned, the only problem I had was the tip of the firing pin broke off. Got a used one from CZ-USA. They told me there are no replacement parts available yet. The tip broke off at the 4000 round mark. I've had no ejection problems, ftf, stove pipes nothing. No hiccups whatsoever. It's been a great gun. The only things I'm going to do is replace the striker assembly when Cajun Gun Works develops one, and put a set of Dawson Precision sights on.
I've seen torture test of continuos fire with over 5000 rounds dunking in water and such along the way with no issues, so I know this gun performs!!! I have several CZ's owned them for years, and I love them!!! I've seen Glock with a whole lot less rounds with the same test with stoppages!!! You can have weak guns off the assembly line from all manufactures, but I'll back CZ all the way!!!
I don't trust it until I see the 5000 round review.
TylerDD I agree, make it a good rounded number. Just for OCD purposes.
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1. Fire your firearm. 2. Come home from firing your firearm 3. Perform proper cleaning of firearm 4. put firearm away until next time you fire it. 5. repeat process. 6. End of problems...
EXACTLY
Great video. Nice seeing a high round count evaluation of the pistol.
Great information, thanks for the video. I just purchased one of these guns...looking forward to picking it up!!
If I had to guess, I would say the stoppages are because of the recoil spring. It gets hot from the barrel and thus, it's longer. That may cause it to be harder to press completely so slide won't cycle completely rearwards. Something like this used to happen on first batches of Glocks 4th gen., as new dual spring was stiffer than it should be.
Just guessing. Anyway, looking forward to buy this P-10C. But it's hard as most of the production is exported to USA from CZ and we here in Slovakia and Czech republic have a hard time to get it, every time it's in the store it's just 1 or 2 pieces, immediately pre-ordered :)
YOu have to buy less out there in USA so we can get some too :)
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Thank you for the honest review. Very clear straight to the point no BS. Subscribed
Very informative video! You have given us a glimpse into the future so to speak.
Thank you for sharing.
Doug Sharp suggested changing mag springs. I say Good call, cheap and easy to try and I like having the stronger ones anyway. I think it sounds like there's a timing issue with the feeding of the rounds, although the spent brass staying in the chamber is a concern that has me stumped. If the mag springs were weak, they wouldn't be pushing the next round up hard/fast enough to screw with extraction/ejection I wouldn't think. It might be a combination of problems. I wonder if the chamber is a tad rough, and when it heats up a lot, the gun is having a problem extracting the expanded/spent case. The way he said that the cycling didn't feel right/felt sluggish makes me think it might be having trouble extracting. Almost like it yanked the spent case partially out, it got stuck, the extractor claw lost grip, and the next round tried to feed as the slide was returning back home after a partial cycle and case still in the chamber.
I say "Good luck with that one broseph"
This dude sounds more like Batman than non-Asian Christian Bale. And also now I want a CZp10C. Thanks Asian Batman.
How was Your experience?
James Dean right? Omg how did I miss the fact the holster model he mentioned was: “THE GOTHAM”???!
I like your down to earth review. Nice job sharing the experience.
That’s a good review. I was going to by the CZ P10c but now I think I might wait until CZ gets all the kinks worked out.
I saw a review of a Sig p320, 13,950 rounds thru it with 2 fte's. Looked ok after the test. I think the moral of the story is, any of the big name guns you could pick would be an excellent gun.
Yup, but you get people who don't treat their guns right, and they start blaming the firearm.
P320 is still a problem though, multiple engineers have looked it over on YT and have explained how it could potentially fire on its own. Additionally, there was a post about a year ago from a guy who had an officer experience an uncommanded discharge while exiting his squad car, and the bullet went through his knee. Definitely don't recomment a P320 without a manual safety FCU.
@@Osprey1994 I know one of the officers using a 320 that discharged in his leg. He had the incorrect holster for his p320. Which was the problem.
Great review! 5000 rounds in 3 months in one gun...wow!! Great job. I do envy your big ammo budget. That's like over $1000 worth of ammo in 3 months. I wish I could do that. Lol
he didnt shoot that many. i bet he bought these guys at a pawn shop for cheap
@Computer-Blue Your life must be fun...
Back when ammo was 20c/rd it was pretty easy to blow through 500 in a week. Factor in classes, that's 1500 or so a month, 4500 in 3 months, if you take a couple big name classes they usualy ask for around 200-500rds.
Completely reasonable to put that many rounds through a pistol in 3 months. Just because you don't shoot, doesn't mean you can throw aspersions on others like that.
FR, there are lots of poor stupid haters after the ammo shortage. What they need to do is get a second job so they can afford to practice more often 😂 Smh
As you shoot the gun and it's temperature increases it causes the metal in the gun to expand. The expansion of the metal causes increased friction and additional overheating as well as a slow down in cycling as the metal parts rub together and cause resistance.
Outstanding video! Very thorough review. Really appreciated all the positives and negatives laid out.
At this point, I'm invested in a G26 Gen 4 (EDC) and a custom CZ SP-01 (fun!). From all the reviews, CZ continues to have the ergonomics down pat. However, it appears harder to maintain and CZ doesn't seem able to supply parts, which is NOT how to compete against the G19! Your comments about rust were surprising and disappointing. If I were selecting an EDC pistol, I'd likely still end up with what I chose.
Bought mines on 12/9/23 and had to return it to service on the same day. Firearm wouldn't feed anything! Received it back on 1/19/24 and CZ USA fixed it, The verbatim notes left are as follows:
“Honed chamber, adjusted and polished breach face lead-in, feed ramp, and barrel hood. Functions checked and test fired good with CCI Blazer 9mm 115gr FMJ and Federal Premium Tactical HST 147gr.” One stoppage per 1000 rounds is acceptable, clean and lubricate after 300 rounds and see if the fixes it? Amount of rounds you fired through it, all the springs and recoil guide and pins should be replace as well as that worn ejector. For rust prevention? I use Corrosion X on all the metal parts, some use Fluid Film.
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Great review! You packed in a lot of good data in a brief period! I'm impressed with the fact that you did the review against the competitor, without any bias. Excellent job brother! 👍🏽
Solomon Lehnerd I'll definitely be checking out your new content! Would you recommend this CZ model?
Solomon Lehnerd Thank you for your honest opinion and detailed review. This was a potential contender for my first polymer pistol, but after your range time assessment, I'll have to pass. 😔
Solomon Lehnerd If CZ fixed all of the known common issues, I'd be willing to grab one up.
Excellent review! Thank you. 2017 model yes? 2018 model year and up got an improvement for this I believe.
I've had the same issue where it would re feed the spent casing! But it would be jammed in there. So maybe it never left the barrel.. currently running primary machine barrels have more of typical jams, but seeing this video reminded me of this stoppage!!
I've carried multiple models of Beretta, Cz, Hk, S&W, Walther, Ruger, Sig, Glock, and Springfield Armory over the years and the only guns that did not rust somewhere were the glocks and berettas.
I have the same problem with the stiff msg release and the slide release. Of course I’ve only put 300 rounds through it but not the white box cheap ammo.
I was told it will loosen up after 300-400 rounds.
It is very accurate right out of the box and the trigger is great.
All in all I’m satisfied wiyomy CZ P10 C
Apex makes a mag release for the P10C that will help so it isnt so stiff. Takes like 5 minutes to install.
Got a p10 f a week ago and the mag release is smooth like butter
Love the gun. It’s a beast!!!
Are the factory sights phosphate painted aka night sights?
2018 or above year model yes?
Appreciate it man. Nice to hear an owners review! Thanks a bunch.
I bought mine about a month ago. Shot 2,000 rounds in it so far. I've gotten it plenty hot doing lots of drills with it. Haven't experienced your failure yet, I hope it stays that way. I took first place last weekend in an IDPA match with it. I can't say for sure I prefer it over the Glock 19 but it's a close contender. I'm going to continue shooting it hard over the next few months and see how she does.
Campsiite,, not that I disagree entirely with you but Glock is by far the easiest pistol out the box to walk into a gunstore purchase sights, holster, and stock factory parts. No other pistol in the world has that. That is why I'm not convinced the P10C is the "Glock Killer" everyone professes it to be. I do however really enjoy shooting the CZ over the Glock but I won't be selling my G19's (plural) any time soon.
Not *literally*, but yeah.
PPSChadwick without going back and "researching" I vaguely remember hearing that the P10 uses a dovetail for Smith & Wesson's or something like that for the sights.
Matthew thank you, I wasn't sure and it probably was back when they were first getting ready to be released and that the P10 would work in a glock holster which turned out to be not quite true
@@PPSChadwick idk ,that might change, CZ has been making pretty big moves since they opened a factory in Kentucky. Now that they don't have to deal with import laws on specific parts/finished guns I'm sure they're gonna attempt to encroach on Glock's hold of striker fire pistols.
Good job on the review. Sorry to hear about the rust issue. I was really close to clicking the checkout on my shopping cart. Now, not so sure.
Dude make more videos with the CZ P10
I think the P10C looks great with some wear and abuse for sure. The finish on my P-07 is like tank armor though. I couldn't blemish it if I tried. I have like 2,000 rds though it and the barrel hood looks brand new.
It's funny you mentioned Nutnfancy. I like his videos, too, but they're so long sometlmes I have to hit the pause button and come back later.
"I'm not nutnfancy," lmfao!!!!
but equally as boring.
Awesome video, thanks for
Doing it. There’s a ton of “initial thoughts” reviews out there so
It’s nice to have a long term review. Also, Love the shot at nutnfancy 😂 dude talks way too much haha.
I had 2 similar stoppages with my new P10C. After listening to your circumstances I think I can break the code on a generic reason for the malfunctions. My stoppage was a live round stuck in the chamber each time making the slide nearly impossible to retract in order to eject round or see what issue was. This happened with range session less than 200 rounds with one of the stoppages happening in first 50. BUT....I was running 3 types of ammo through the gun - all 115gr. Ammo used: Browning 115 RN (Winchester made), Fiocchi 115 RN, and Freedom munitions 124gr RN. ONLY the BROWNING (WINCHESTER MANUFACTURED) ROUNDS MALFUNCTIONED...never the Fiocchi or Freedom.
Similarities: Winchester manufactured ammo was culprit....did you ever have your issue happen with any other ammo?
Somewhat similar: mine occured after around 50 and 125 rounds outdoors on very hot summer day in the deep South.
Dissimilar: my round was never left in mag in vertical position.
Solution: I will not run any Winchester 9mm ammo through it again for future range training to see if this alleviates the not so confidence building stoppages. Until I run at least 1000 more with no stoppage I will not carry this firearm....even though I shoot well with it. I love the aggressive grip. My mag ejection is somewhat sticky but not too much to be operationally unsafe.
Good review! I was surprised to hear about the rust, hopefully it doesn't become an issue
Outstanding, i fricken love my cz p10c. The trigger is sickening.... in a good way. Lol...... soft smooth trigger and the reset unbelievable factory trigger. My only issue is the mag release that is a little stiff. No deal breaker but wish it was a little easier .,....... looking forward to get my hands on the cz p10s. Subcompact ..... thanks ....
When I picked mine up new, I had the same issue with the mag release and the slide release. I kept working both for over a week until my hands were raw, but it did the trick. now their smooth running.
Fantastic review! Really want one of these handguns now!
Funny thing is if you looked at the glock it had same damage on the ejector it happens after so much use why they make and sell replacment parts. Guns are like cars they wear down so they need to be fixed from time to time
William Goboff I think it was just dirty.
Just my two cents. I'm a sweaty guy and here in South Florida (especially during summertime) I can sweat profusely especially also if I'm doing chores outside. I have found that sometimes you just have to check, clean and lubricate your weapon on a daily basis.
I don't want a weapon you have to clean daily...Maybe not fair comparison, by I'll stick with my 92.
Im thinking the sluggish part after it gets hot is maybe it its getting too dry? I know glocks like to run dry but some guns dont example being the m&p series. I noticed your cz looks a little on the dry side so maybe it you keep it oiled a little more often maybe that will help. Such an odd ball malfunction
You make great vids...why dont you upload more often? I just found this vid and immediately subbed. It would be cool to see more vids from you.
Great weapon. I’m a long time Glock guy so grip is different. I am enjoying it. Two comments but I wouldn’t say negative. Changing backstrap is a pain. Used a punch set and the pin is hollow, takes a little. Tight is good but a solid pin would make easier. Slide not locking to rear on empty, 100% my grip. Locks manually on open mag. They could adjust this because that mag release is hard to engage. Trustworthy, good shooting weapon.
The pin for the strap is absolute garbage. I destroyed mine trying to get it to go back in. Ended up using a toothpick that I sanded down, it works just fine, and if it breaks I have plenty to replace it with. I am honestly considering hitting the grip with silicon carbide cause the sides have 0 texture. That is of course if I don't sell the P10F, it's a decent pistol, but I find mysself struggling to justify keeping it. Of course that's likely because I moved to the dot and the P10F is not milled. But even if I milled it I am unsure if that would solidify its spot in the quiver.
My issued Sig M11 made in West Germany gets mild rust on spots too. I solve the issue by cleaning it and adding a bit of oil.
I felt a well-used cz p10c at a range and the tolerances felt really tight. The gun is really well and consistently machined...but maybe such tight tolerances combined with material limitations mean that it's more easily affected by thermal expansion?
Weird my Czech made P10F is a bit of a maraca, up and down and side to side. If there's that much play on an essentially new gun then I can't imagine how much there is on a well used one.
Excellent, detailed review. Yeah, I'd probably clean the gun more, myself... but hey... ignore the haters. The rusted pins and mag release are a good note.
Have you inspected the frame for cracks where the roll pin goes through the frame just forward of the take down lever? I like my Glocks but I am in the market for the CZ P10C. I saw a very good review by Earl An in which he gave "pro/con" assessment of the pistol and showed pictures of the fractures. Others who have reviewed this pistol have not found such cracks. Concerned, I'd like to get as much info on the pistol before pulling the trigger on one.
love my P10C..none of this guy's problems..4-5000 rds..cheap steel to Federals..goes 'bang' every time
Great video on cz p10
Just got new one also, may I ask u where is cheapest place for extra mags ?? Thanks again
Waiting for my P10C to get to transfer to my FFL. Can't wait to put rounds down range!!
Hi, where did you get those magazines? and are those all factory CZ ones?
Thanks for the great vid. Very useful info since I just purchased a p-10 a week ago.
Great video. Had the same issues at the range on my p10 S. 2 discharge issues and one stoppage issue in under 300 rounds. Was not to happy about it because I had such high expectations for the p10 series as an edc. Not so sure anymore.
Good video I love seeing people really enjoying there guns and making them work. Just got the cz p10c 3 weeks ago and so far I love it I have 608rds threw it of 3 different cheap ammo and some hollow points with zero malfunctions and that was 1 session I’m gonna put it threw another session before I start carrying it I got a tulster holster today and seems like it’s going to be a good match for it it fits great.
Great input! but i think you should do a full cleanup of both your glock and CZ. I mean complete disassembly and maybe some ultrasonic cleaning. You can learn how to completely disassemble it and a good ultrasonic cleaner will cost around 80 bucks
First off, thanks for sharing this video.
All semiauto handguns at one point or another have a failure or malfunction, and the reason varies from faulty ammo, to a defective mag, to a mechanism problem, to shooter improper handling.
The fact of the matter is, based on the laws of physics (including material strength) moving parts on a mechanism are not infallible, or of eternal durability, they react to conditions.
You have to do maintenance to your tool, trying to keep it in mint condition, avoiding abuse, and excessive wear, not only caused by ammo but by excessive heat from continued firing, which expands the metal causing malfunctions.
The CZ P10 C on this video looks tortured and poorly kept. It is for sure dirty. Keep your handgun wet, well lubricated, and it will last longer.
Great post!👍
For the price of that gun and all the +P you shot thru it. Great gun. I have the same one with threaded barrell with suppressor height sights and love it. About to alternate with my Hellcat, just bought a 3rd mag.
Awesome vid! Waiting on an FDE model to come in.
might be a lil late to the party BUT: "nato spec"? that made me burst out laughing! ty good sir!
Carpenter here, magazine release is a breeze. Some folks hands are just a little weak.
I've heard not all mag releases are that bad but stiff. I couldn't depress mine using both thumbs. I decided to just replace it with an Apex, not they drop like a beretta.
The hype surrounding these pistols was insane last year, everybody wanted one and they were highly recommended. I've read about multiple people having problems out of theirs, some even had parts breakage. So you're lucky that you didn't have any parts break! These just aren't high round count guns, CZ has some work to do still yet. You can't increase production and keep the same level of quality control at the same time. I did want one of these pistols, until I read about the dissatisfied people who were dupped into buying an average handgun. Everybody on RUclips recommended this handgun! Of course not everyone is gonna have problems with their particular gun, because just like you said this is one example. I find it kind of interesting that both Larry Vickers and Hickok45 both bought the FN 509 over the P-10C, makes me wonder. Personally I went with the APX, I bought one in .40 S&W and if it holds up I'll check one out in 9MM. Also like the fact that you buy full power ammo, I never quite understood why people used brands like Freedom Munitions. For one it's not actually cheaper and second it's underpowered as fuck. Always train with a practice load that's comparable to your carry load! One reason I always liked .40 S&W (yes, I know most people don't), the FMJ loads are loaded at the same pressure. Great video, this needed to be said! Just because something is popular, that doesn't make it great..RUclipsr's will straight up like to you for personal gain. Personally I'm always skeptical of what I read online, so many keyboard warriors that it's ridicuous.
Dude you should definitely do more reviews, videos.
Have no issues with mines, but the firearm should be clean and lubricate after every 300 or 400 rounds anyways. Do you let your power tools continuedly to run dry? Eventually it's going to stop working or break. Not a fan of the CZ P-10c, I don't like the firing pin block, there's better design. For corrosion protection I use Corrosion X, Some I know use Fluid Film and they had no issues.
Based on my experience with different CZ models some factory mag springs have fairly low tension so I've replaced them with springs that have 10% more tension. Wolff Gun Springs. The issue with FTE here looks like a combination of issues with perhaps extractor spring tension and mag spring strength. Given the volume of rounds I would replace those springs and lightly stone the ejector to make the gun even more reliable. Just my two cents but I hope it's helpful. Pay close attention to angles if you're stoning an ejector!
Rooftop it will help with ftf. I got the idea after buying non- factory mags from Mecgar and noting they were much harder to load for the last three rounds. Switched the springs on my 18 round factory mags and problem solved!
Great review
how's the cz holding up today if you still have it
You can touch up the rear sight with Birchwood Casey Aluma Black I perfer the pen
I found that out after the fact. I love that product! It works quite well and does a pretty good job getting things black again.
I'm glad you run your guns hard so I know what to expect if I do.
If my Glock 19 would have had the same grip angle as the P 10 I never would have bought the P 10. So far no complaints on the P 10.
I had a old timer once Told me never let your slide slam forward.Do it manually because your pistol will get hiccups.And that is happening to you, don't slam the slide forward. He Said to me.That's only in movies.. God bless brother.
LOL😂😂😂, Thanks for your honest review! Both guns are awesome guns. If you carry both on your left and right, you got nothing to fear, bro! And yes, rube your gun every thousand rounds at least, don't wait till three thousand 😂😂😂.
Good review. Still on the fence on getting a p10c. Havnt shot one yet but for their 2nd striker they did a good job
Shot my p10 over the weekend around 350 rnds worked perfectly but I noticed when I ran the magazine into the gun it racks itself. Is that normal? Also one of the pins in the back came out about a quarter way I had to hammer it back in. I tried calling cz today but no reply. Anyways any help would be much appreciated thanks! Great vid!
Yes running the magazine into the CZ P10 C will rack itself if you apply enough force.
@@kraigkowalski393 is that normal or is it a defect that needs to be fixed? I have a Glock and it doesn't rack itself with force
@@rornowskibreaks5187 I was told this by the shop I bought mine at, Topgun of Volusia. You can also see it's a normal feature by the chatter here: czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=97838.0
Hope this helps!
@@kraigkowalski393 lol i just got my P10 from topgun as well
@@FloridaManMorbid That place is amazing
love CZs. best quality guns on the market and extremely accurate. never liked Glock!
Soooo True. I have found absolutely NOTHING about a Glock that I like. ( grip like a 2x4, mushy trigger, plastic sights, etc, all of which are true facts.)
@@7.0sbfgmcrusher95 Glock has one thing going for it: No matter how much abuse you give it, it keeps going.
Yeah, they're very meh and not the same value for dollar they used to be, but man are they reliable.
Best quality guns on the market? Have you seen the market?
Sure they have a great value and are fantastic guns, but it's highly naive to say they're the "best quality guns on the market."
Are you insinuating Glocks are poor quality and inaccurate?
@@aomaggots- yes because glock sights are known to walk left or right after a few thousand rounds and they are non adj. Glocks feel like shit and trigger sucks. Out of box cz is one of the best you can get.
I prefer my Glocks
G4 Glock 23 (Favorite handgun in the world)
G5 Glock 19 (FBI Standard Issue)
I like all firearms in general but when it comes to handguns, I prefer Glock...
gopd honest interview hope you do more. i just subscribed👍👍
Thank you for the interesting video. Question, how often do you spray the insides with CLP or something similar? I wonder if that would have prevented some of the internal rust.
Nice review bro. I went into a local gun store to pick up this pistol and came out with a P320 X-Carry. The P-10C felt like I was holding a baby porcupine in my hand. The P320 X-Carry felt perfect in my hands. It also shoots well now that I've put about 500 rounds through it. With that being said, I still want to pick up a P-10C. I've heard nothing but positive reviews, but I might have get it stipled as soon as I buy one.
I have one in 45, P10F. Glad I got one. Didn’t want to go with Glocks, way to many folks have it, just not me. It goes well with me and the misses collection. Sig S, Springfield, Daniel D and CZ.
I tend to agree plenty of people have glocks. That’s fine I just like a nicer shooting gun. And different options. As far as the review having rust. Mine has just under 2000 on mine carried daily in humid Texas. I clean mine one or twice a month. Keep it well oiled it does have rust in the roll pin on the grip but i always clean it. Because I work a very dirty job. Love my 9mm p10F. Have a few sigs looking to get another cz 75 and a pdp pro full sized.
What is the name of your appendix holster??? Could not catch the name!!!!!!!!
Stopages may have resulted in the ejector damage ??
Excellent review. Thanks for the upload.
Great low key review! Thanks for posting!
Great video. You did say rusting ? Hope I'm wrong. Glock looks good for use and age ... thanks
Thanks for the review. I have a CZ P09 for general defense (home, truck gun, and shooting range) Love shooting it. I have a Shield 9 performance for my LTC. I think CZ did not outperform the G19 by making the 10c. I would buy a G19 before I'd by this gun. S&W has been mimicking Glock for so long and I still think the G17 and G19 are the best polymer striker fire 9's in their price range for reliability(long term)and performance(long term). I'm not a fanboy, just a gun enthusiast and avid shooter.
Is that one of CZ's lube free pistols? When you rack the slide it sounds like a cat hanging on a screen door. I own and carry CZ's but I never heard one that sounded like that.
Mine sounds the same way
Good review you fired a substantial amount of rounds through the pistol to form an objective opinion. There have been reports that the frame on some P210c's have been cracking under the locking block area. Have you been able to take the frame components apart and inspect the frame itself and the components?
Never heard that anywhere!!!
My P10c is back at CZ only after 700 rounds. The slide release wire spring jumped out of its recess and got all mangled up and jammed in between the frame and locking block. Pretty sure this is the first failure of its kind after trying to research for similar problems. My locking block had a good amount of flex within the frame. Enough flex to make room for the wire spring to jump out and up into the slide/frame rails. Was not able to remove slide to field strip until I yanked on it knowing it will mangle the wire spring even further. Really hope this works itself out. Never had to send a gun back to the manufacturer before. Really enjoyed the pistol while it was working, felt perfect in the hands and the trigger was great.
KKazu N wow! That's pretty disconcerting. Did your locking block always have this fair amount of flex between the frame or did it get worse over time?
Rooftop i saw on the forums one other person with the same exact problem who sent his gun back to CZ. I thought i was the only one. He got his p10c back...200 rounds in wire spring popped back out of the locking block. Not good. May sell mine and wait until a gen. 2 comes out as I have been eying a walther p99as. Currently back to carrying the Glock.
Is that glock barrel still accurate after 12k rounds? Had to replace anything? Guide rod?
I have a P07 and a older CZ75B that are exceptional shooters. The only issue I had was the rear sight on the P07 worked it's way loose but that was an easy fix with some Locktite.
I agree on checking mag, Also you using white box. I bet unusual carbon from white box like you said . Save up do a four hundred of carry ammo. Practice with crap but base reality after shooting with carry ammo, There's a reason it's called target ammo . Good review though, I remember my young and dumb years when I got rid of a fantastic CZ because of stoppages . And to this day I'm Ninety nine percent sure it was a mag issue.
Thanks for the rundown man.
Good video. Covered it nicely
What kind, how much, and where are you lubing this gun? How often have you cleaned it?
3 malfunctions isn't bad out of 5k rounds, but I agree that it's something to look into. Out if curiosity because you had it in the table, do you remember how many malfunctions you had with the g17 with 12k rounds through it?
If you do the math the CZ has a malfunction 1 out of every 1666 rounds and the Glock has a malfunction every 1 in 1000. So now who has the better record? answer CZ!
Could it be the plastic guide rod get hot and flexing enough to let this happen? I put in an ss guide rod in mine an have had no issues. Thanks for the info and vid! Let me know if this fixed the issue...