Small correction: The target size is 4.5寸(すん/sun), not 分(ぶ/bu), one sun is 3,03cm, one bu is 3,03mm. Also, the bow is 4.5尺(しゃく/shaku), not sun, one shaku is 30,3cm. A target of 4.5 bu and a bow of 4.5 sun would be very hard to shoot I imagine :). The distance to the target is indeed 4.5間(けん/ken) though, one ken is 1,818m. Nonetheless a great video as always! Best regards from the Netherlands, Louis
In my opinion, nearly every proper horse bow will outperform a yumi. A yumi can be maybe more compared to a english longbow... a lot of mass a lot of energy loss.
Very interesting... but hankyū were samurai bows. They copied and adapted them from the mongol recurves. There are sources that seem to indicate that actually the hankyū was more often used on the battle field in the Sengoku Jidai than the Daikyū, because of its much more practical application. A hankyū is VERY high on my wish list, once I have enough coin to get one.
I hope so too! It's really a pain, being poor with so many interests. I'm a 16th century martial artist. Shajutsu should be a part of our curriculum. I also am trying to get a Japanese reenactment group (16th century) up and running. Again, I'd need some hankyū. But really, thanks for the kind heads up :)
Not if you take shipping and customs into account. ;) I'm looking into Hungarian made Hankyū. But it will take some months or even years to get me one of those, still. But really: I do need one of those! :)
hm.... i have a hungarian yumi. amazing bow. i always as peter if he will build hankyus :) where do you live Achim, germany? i have 2 bamboo hankyu here ;)
japanese bows, like the yumi or this hankyu were all made like this, for several reasons. one is to be able to shoot a very long bow from horseback, another more important I guess, to overcome handshock in the centre of the bow. And then some spiritual reasons.
interesting. I have seen some videos about shinan mato in Japan, it looks like a recreational sport for elder people. one thing that strikes me is that they use an incredibly long arrow, I wonder why? what do you think?
Hi Daniele. Yes mostly old people, but they still do ceremonies like kyudo with these bows. I have no idea why the arrows are that long. maybe they simply use the ones for the regular yumi. Or they aim with them hahaha
Hi Armin. This post says that arrows used for shihan mato have not metal points (they are just sharpened) and maybe explains why they are so long ... www.kyudoproject.com/2011/10/hankyu-half-bow-archery-game.html
The arrows are that long because with Japanese archery (kyūsha or shajutsu) the bow is pulled further than with western archery. The rear hand goes way back behind the head, while the front hand is stretched out too.
Thank for your reply. Interesting to hear this! I just recently realized that how to properly khatra depends largely on the shape of bow (especially the grip). I'm learning thumb ring shooting using a Hungarian bow and recently tried sideway khatra with preload torque technique. I only had kinda ~30% times doing it successfully, and my wrist got fatigue too fast doing this. Just found that the principle is similar to yugaeri but hard to apply to my bow. I guess either because my bow grip is thick, or my bow is too stiff to be torqued, or both.
Yugaeri is actually not a thing in ancient Japanese combat archery. It'd be a huge waste of time. Japanese traditional combat archery (shajutsu or kyūsha, as opposed to the more modern kyūjutsu and the very modern kyūdō) was actual a method of shooting very quickly and accurate.
Your knowledge about different styles of archery is impressive. Thanks for the video!
thank you very much :)
Small correction: The target size is 4.5寸(すん/sun), not 分(ぶ/bu), one sun is 3,03cm, one bu is 3,03mm. Also, the bow is 4.5尺(しゃく/shaku), not sun, one shaku is 30,3cm. A target of 4.5 bu and a bow of 4.5 sun would be very hard to shoot I imagine :). The distance to the target is indeed 4.5間(けん/ken) though, one ken is 1,818m. Nonetheless a great video as always! Best regards from the Netherlands, Louis
Well, that's interesting! I'm wondering for a long time how yumi will perform in comparison with different horsebows.
In my opinion, nearly every proper horse bow will outperform a yumi. A yumi can be maybe more compared to a english longbow... a lot of mass a lot of energy loss.
English longbow and yumi, quite comparable.
yes
i just made a hankyu out of pvc i made a video of my meditative shooting .. thanks for the inspiration
Very interesting... but hankyū were samurai bows. They copied and adapted them from the mongol recurves. There are sources that seem to indicate that actually the hankyū was more often used on the battle field in the Sengoku Jidai than the Daikyū, because of its much more practical application.
A hankyū is VERY high on my wish list, once I have enough coin to get one.
thanks for your input and i hope you get your hanky soon :)
I hope so too! It's really a pain, being poor with so many interests.
I'm a 16th century martial artist. Shajutsu should be a part of our curriculum.
I also am trying to get a Japanese reenactment group (16th century) up and running. Again, I'd need some hankyū.
But really, thanks for the kind heads up :)
well the one in the video is of course not original made, it is a simple bamboo one. but quite nice, does the job and is very cheap :)
Not if you take shipping and customs into account. ;)
I'm looking into Hungarian made Hankyū. But it will take some months or even years to get me one of those, still. But really: I do need one of those! :)
hm.... i have a hungarian yumi. amazing bow. i always as peter if he will build hankyus :) where do you live Achim, germany? i have 2 bamboo hankyu here ;)
I noticed the hand grip is not centered. What is the reasom for this?
Dgui
japanese bows, like the yumi or this hankyu were all made like this, for several reasons. one is to be able to shoot a very long bow from horseback, another more important I guess, to overcome handshock in the centre of the bow. And then some spiritual reasons.
may I get the detentions of the bows thickness and length please in inches.
interesting. I have seen some videos about shinan mato in Japan, it looks like a recreational sport for elder people. one thing that strikes me is that they use an incredibly long arrow, I wonder why? what do you think?
Hi Daniele. Yes mostly old people, but they still do ceremonies like kyudo with these bows. I have no idea why the arrows are that long. maybe they simply use the ones for the regular yumi. Or they aim with them hahaha
Hi Armin. This post says that arrows used for shihan mato have not metal points (they are just sharpened) and maybe explains why they are so long ... www.kyudoproject.com/2011/10/hankyu-half-bow-archery-game.html
yes, can be. thanks
The arrows are that long because with Japanese archery (kyūsha or shajutsu) the bow is pulled further than with western archery. The rear hand goes way back behind the head, while the front hand is stretched out too.
yes that is true for yumi bows. the shihanmato bows are small and not capable of a draw of 40"
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Can you do Yugaeri, i.e. the Japanese style khatra?
yes, but with on this hankyu the handle was not proper - so it was hard to do
Thank for your reply. Interesting to hear this! I just recently realized that how to properly khatra depends largely on the shape of bow (especially the grip). I'm learning thumb ring shooting using a Hungarian bow and recently tried sideway khatra with preload torque technique. I only had kinda ~30% times doing it successfully, and my wrist got fatigue too fast doing this. Just found that the principle is similar to yugaeri but hard to apply to my bow. I guess either because my bow grip is thick, or my bow is too stiff to be torqued, or both.
Yugaeri should be performed with a more lose grip. The arab khatra needs a tight grip. But both are hard to accomplish :)
Yugaeri is actually not a thing in ancient Japanese combat archery. It'd be a huge waste of time.
Japanese traditional combat archery (shajutsu or kyūsha, as opposed to the more modern kyūjutsu and the very modern kyūdō) was actual a method of shooting very quickly and accurate.
thanks