Is a "Dentist Chair" the best simracing pedal? | SimGrade R7 Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- The Simgrade R7 is one of the most unique and comfortable pedals I have ever tested. I hope this review answers all the questions you might have about these pedals.
simgrade.fi/product/r7-pedals/
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Build Quality
2:10 - Unique Foot Rest
3:20 - Adjustability
5:00 - Closer Look Throttle
6:51 - Closer Look Brake
11:04 - Advanced Brake Kit
12:44 - Software
17:44 - On the Track
24:23 - Verdict
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I've been driving on these pedals for almost a year now. Simply lovely.
Have you owned other pedals? If so how do these stack against them?
Und vor allem,..wie haben sich deine Zeiten entwickelt....
Mfg Herbert
Thanks for your insight, Dan. 👍 The customization options are insane; guess at my level of driving I’m good with what my Sprints offer. None the less, the R7 look like something from the future… 😍 I appreciate the build quality as well. The side plates to hold the foot in place I really dig.👏 have a relaxed Sunday! 👋
Any closer to getting the Simtrecs review released!
Been using these for a year and I a can also highly recommend them. Had some knee issues before. Not anymore :) owned heusinkveld ultimates before and I think these actually are a step up. But yeah it’s my personal opinion
Perfect set - since one year I use them
Freakin love his wheel collection at the back..
Thanks Dan, a great view. Impressive pedals but a bit out of my price bracket.
I have the same issue as you with the throttle pedal, my foot is always turned ouwards, this came from the need to get my super large feet in real cars. I have been looking for a bracket to attach to my pedal but know joy, sop I will have to make one.
I kinda wish you would've talked them down more, you're essentially spending my money for me talking about these pedals 😅
they are super bad. I would highly recommend to spend the money on a tier 3 sub on my twitch channel and a youtube channel membership instead!
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@@DanSuzuki holy damn , is tier 3 1k €? :D
respect simagic,asetek,simcube, Cubecontrols, do you recommend this pedalboard?
Hey Dan :) Any chance you could give recommendations/considerations/advice on a cockpit. Cheers
looks like u have simucube active pedal brake trace without the filtering and ground wire. All jokes aside very interesting pedals. nice to see some innovation. Nice wheel wall
As always, great video 🙏
The pedal system with the heel moving, seems Indeed very confortable 👍
But 1000€ for 2 pedals, it's a bit expensive IMO
Will you be switching to these or keeping the VRS? I'm upgrading to the VRS pedals and Wheelbase from my Moza Setup.
That title is ace! 😂🥳
Hey Dan, I remember you rated the VRS 9.5/10 --- I know this i hard but without cost/performance ratio would you be able to put a number on these?
Very interesting pedals. Although from the first look I expected more weird, multi-pivot movement. I think some pedal sets out there would allow adding a DIY floating heel rest like on these ones...
How is the throttle pedal , I am about to upgrade from T - LCM pedals to serious pedals .
I was looking at the simagic hydraulic brake pedals 2000 series , but these pedals look great for comfort.
I had the exact same issue as you explained Dan with the throttle pedal foot position. I would slip off the pedal within minutes of racing, especially in the heat of battle. I have the HE Pro pedals and put an HRS throttle pedal plate support on. It's without doubt the best upgrade i have made to my sim setup. Never mind all the wheels i have, DD motor i use, that throttle plate is the best and so comfortable now. I think it was around £30 or so. Was it worth it? oh yes, the cheapest upgrade i have ever done.
Thats some good ergonomics
Hi, I'm writing to you from Italy How are you finding yourself with this pedalboard? Superior to simagic,Simcube,asetek etc?
With your foot angle, could you try spreading the pedals apart? Like I have a cheap old Fanatec CSR pedal set with 3 pedals. I moved the clutch to the middle so my brake is on the left. This was much more comfortable for me as it has my feet closer to hip width apart. Aside from the problems of squishing your balls, I really don't think it's good for your knees and ankles in the long run to spend hours with your feet so close together. I know I used to get sore knees when I had the pedals together. With the more karting like arrangement it is no problem no matter how long I drive. Just thinking you drive far more than I do so maybe you could also benefit
Same, I moved my brake and throttle pedals further apart because I like that better. Interesting to find someone else who does that too.
'Ere - Suzuki - what's with that Marshall head and those guitars what you have in the background?
Compaired to the TM T LCM pedals .
Are both the throttle and break better ?
I have some issues with my feet .
I can't feel parts of my feet after spinal infection .
So having my feel locked in to 1 position would greatly help me be consistent and push with my legs the same every time.
I am building a high end rig so I am super interested in these pedals.
I need a solid stiffer throttle pedal.
The T LCM pedals feel way to soft.
Hi Mr J, Timo from SIMGRADE° here - hopefully you don't mind me commenting also. Even if I'm biased as the designer of the pedals, I can assure you the comparison here is very easy, yes these will be a major step up in both, throttle and brake. One of the nicest things with these pedals is that your feet will never slide on the pedals so no need to "correct" the positioning at all during driving, you can just relax your feet and fully concentrate on pressing the pedal. Also no need to keep you foot in the air while braking (to mitigate the ball of your foot sliding on the pedal face), you'll avoid all extra tensioning of the hip muscles etc.
Also a good thing to remember, these are also designed to work very well in inverted position, and then they will work as "normal pedals" - just one thing I wanted to add as it could be important to some.
As Dan Mentions on the video, you're guaranteed to get the throttle as stiff as you want (same of course goes with the brake).
Hope this was helpful,
Br. Timo
@@kosketi81 As a proud owner of a set of R7 pedals for two years now, I can wholeheartedly recommend them to everyone I talk to about sim racing. Addressing mrJ's issue; i can tell you that I have owned the TLCM pedals a while back and the R7 is light years beyond them. I have also had 7 back surgeries and have similar foot sensory problems as you. The R7 pedals are the ONLY pedals that i found to use without ANY of the pain I used to suffer from during racing. Because of the lack of thought put into ergonomics and body mechanics by most sim pedal makers I though pain was just something I had to deal with. However, when I started using the R7 pedals I almost cried because I was so happy to finally feel totally comfortable in my rig. All of the hip, lower back and knee pain I used to feel during a race were absolutely gone! The team at SimGrade have done a beautiful job with these pedals and they are an absolute masterpiece in engineering.
8:10 I feel like this is often overlooked by most simracers. Having the ability to have a certain force required to get an output as well as how much pedal travel that equates to is a really important customizable element that I wish more pedal sets would have. Personally like a really heavy duty load cell that allows me to have a large amount of force to get a desired output but in traditional pedal sets, that almost always limits the pedal's travel.
These are cheaper than those new active simucube pedals so that's a plus...but these are still a bit pricey for my tastes.
I have gone through about 10 different sets of pedals since getting into sim racing and trying to replicate that real car feel. I finally gave these simgrade R7 pedals a shot about 2 years ago and I can honestly say it is the ONLY part of m rig that I haven't messed with since i installed them and found the perfect setup/ergonomics for me. They are a little expensive but they feel better that any other pedals I have used, including hydraulic! Rock solid and TONS of adjustability to give you the feel like they are an extension of your feet. Just buy them and you WILL be happy.😀
Damn that's heavy praise. I'm thinking of buying the R7's but I'm not sure how different they'd be in terms of feel to the only other pedals I've tried, Simagic P1000i with hydraulic brake and the VRS pedals. Have you tried those two pedals before man?
@routev1485 I've used all of the thrustmaster and Fanatec pedals and the Heusinkveld sprints and ultimate's and the simgrade R7 are so much more comfortable and therefore consistent by far. You will love them!
@@routev1485 I would be very interested to hear your opinion on the P1000i with hydraulic brake at inverted position and the VRS pedals. I am exactly in the situation to choose between these 2 pedals and the R7s. SO you help a tons if you can tell me your opinion on the simagic ones and the VRS
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How stiff is the throttle and break pedal in comparison to the Heusinkveld ultimate+ pedals ?
I hope you allow me to answer you, as it's quite an easy question to answer - you don't actually even need to compare to any other existing pedal set. The throttle can be set from zero resistance to such a high level you really can not use - so it's basically guaranteed that you'll find a good fit for yourself. And I think Dan made a good comment on it on the video also.
And also the brake can be adjusted in terms of travel from zero to as long as the throttle (which is too much for anyone really). In terms of force it can go up to about 130kg's with the Advanced Brake kit 2.0 - although I would not really recommend anyone to use that high of a brake force - the optimum is usually in the range of 80kg - 95kg. Anything more will most probably get you too worn out during longer races thus dropping the performance towards the end of the race. But obviously all is subjective and some want to use and even need to use higher pedal forces to get the best feeling / immersion (which is of course all good) - in the end the main thing is the level of control and feel what we are aiming for - Dan using less pedal force than usually is a sign of exactly the thing we have been after with the R7's - to give the "same" control with less pedal force (than usually he/she needs) as that will pay off in the longer races. For sure, you can ramp up the pedal forces (+95kg) if you want, but is it the wisest thing you can do? Sometimes less is more - especially in the longer races.
Less is more? ruclips.net/video/QHZ48AE3TOI/видео.html
But on a more serious note, can confirm all this - you can set it up exactly like you want!
I don't want hydrostatic pedal to drive farming sim or trotle for space ship
but then you can't prepare for an alien invasion?
@@DanSuzuki I think it still could be possible.
And regarding the simracing - space ships - is that where the aliens come form? Maybe a throttle of that ship is a good thing? no?
Oh man...es wird immer teurer...jetz mal hand auf das herz...ja es sieht toll aus und die halten Garantiert 10 jahre und mehr...aber über 1000 euro ist sehr viel geld...gutes video
Was heißt teurer? Es gibt doch bereits viele 1000€ Pedalen, Heusinkvelds Ultimate z.B.
Hydraulik Bremsen sind ebenfalls nicht gerade günstig.
@@Xzibitfreek ja du hast recht, ich habe mich etwas blöd ausgedrückt...ich meinte eher...WIEDER Pedale über tausend Euro...es kommen kaum Pedale um den 300 bis 400 Euro Bereich
@@EdelOss1 für den Preisbereich hat man aber unschlagbare VRS Pedalen.
@@WolfteamFreakable 👌🏻
@@WolfteamFreakable i chose VRS over HE ultimates (non + version) as had ability to try them both, and VRS are cheaper, so absolutely no brainer to go with VRS pedals. I also had asetek forte, it was just headache… nothing more
At this point I am not wasting any more money on elastomer or spring load cell brake pedals.
SIMUCUBE ACTIVE PEDAL
FFB brake pedals are the future and all of this is just a waste of money, save for the Active Pedal.
We’ll keep in mind not everybody can spend 5k+ on pedals 😅
The company needs to improve their software, which is preventing me from purchasing it.
Hi, This is under way - we have taken notice of the feedback from Dan and we'll improve the SW for sure.
over engineert as hell , looks like from an alien spacecraft xd . no doubt theyre good pedals but with a strange look
I'm NOT entertaining pedals that cost more that my WHOLE sim-racing setup. THIS IS DISGUSTING!